Fire Emblem Heroes

>>376399978
Starting off strong with a short statblock 95% of you don't care about.

Part 5

- HARD -

>Unit Composition
1 Red Sword, 1 Green Axe, 1 Colorless Archer, 1 Blue Tome
>Victory
Keep all units alive AND Defend for 7 Turns.

5* Gunter Lv. 40
>HP: 46
>Atk: 47
>Spd: 27
>Def: 36
>Res: 20
Hammer +, Harsh Command and Hone Atk 2

5* Klein Lv. 40
>HP: 43
>Atk: 47
>Spd: 37
>Def: 22
>Res: 27
Silver Bow +, Glacies and Quick Riposte 3

5* Lon'qu Lv. 40
>HP: 49
>Atk: 44
>Spd: 47
>Def: 25
>Res: 25
Armorslayer + and Speed +3

5* MRobin Lv. 40
>HP: 43
>Atk: 43
>Spd: 32
>Def: 32
>Res: 25
Blarraven +, Bonfire and Spur Def 3

Turn 1 Matthew lower right, Draug top right. Turn 2 Donnel mid left, Lilina lower right. Turn 3 Sully bottom left. Turn 4 Palla upper left, Mist top right (REHABILITATE). Turn 5 Clair mid left and Narcian mid right. No reinforcements Turn 6. Map completed.

You can expect a more detailed summary and statblocks of the spawned in units later, probably. Unrelated, but the max Defense score in Arena got bumped to 451+, but Bonus Units also apply to that score now, so good fucking luck actually hitting that.

>>376399978
>still no Snarky Apostle or Dwight D. Greil

Thoughts on my Anna build? TA/Vantage/Threaten Speed or Def/Moonbow

>>376399978
What are you doing nigga? You don't use colorless for that maps?
Not that it matters much

>>376402075
I was doing it as a blind run, more to feel out the map than anything else. I'll run it again with my shitty healer sometime later.

>>376399978
Did a quick run of them, just need to do 2 more on hard cause of little mistakes causing me to lose a unit.

Part 3 and part 5 specifically.

>>376402291
3 wasn't too bad for me because all of my units can counter at range. If you can't though, then you should probably invest in a Rehabilitate Healer and try to off the side that's more dangerous to you first.

Already did them, saving the orbs for Celica's banner.

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>tfw seriously considering rolling for 5* Henry so iI can give his tome to snacki

>>376402553
>rolling for Red -Raven +
No. Tharja's tome is at least useful, but there's no real reason to stuff a -Raven tome up fivehead's cunt over a -Blade tome. Hell, Tharja is even a better unit than Snacks.

>>376399978
Yeah, they were easy.

Game is back to being dead

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Defense maps were kind of a let down, but the orbs from them were fortuitous.

+SPD/-DEF

Gotta plan my SP spending wisely though, i doubt i will keep any skills from her default set

>>376399978
All 10 battles and all the quests done.

>>376399978
>new maps and defensive terrain make Arena easier now but also make battles last slightly longer

Not worth it. Oh well orb rewards are nice at least.

>>376404187
Just go back to kiting the enemy, the computer is still retarded.

>>376404308
I'm not sure you understood what I said friend.

>easier

Keyword. Kiting is fine, it's also slow. Which was my point. Easier, but slower.

How did you guys finish Part 5 on Hard? I have no mages that prove useful, and the Linde I rolled is -spd

>>376404896
Pivot Hector, Draw Back Julia, Ninian, Reposition Reinhardt the first time to feel the map out. Just stayed clustered in the center, shuffling around for good matchups. Baited for safe counter kills, like letting MRobin attack Julia. For the quest I switched in Kagero, don't even remember with who.

>>376404896
I burned two blessings because I'm a lazy fuck.

>haven't gotten a single defense victory last season
>already got one now with the same team
really don't get the arena sometimes. Oh well, switched now a bonus character in, best case I'll get another defense victory which gives double points else I at least got 1. Though I wonder, how fast does your defense team update?

>>376406009
I don't think bonus characters boost defensive points.

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>>376406246
They do now.

>>376404896
My main team, using their default kits including or replaced by.
5* -HP +Atk Nino + Moonbow, Fury 3, Desperation 3, HP +3 Sacred Seal
5* +Atk -Def Lucina (Spring) + Moonbow, Hone Atk 3, Speed +1 Sacred Seal
5* -HP +Spd Kagero + Draw Back, Fury 3, Attack +1 Sacred Seal
5* +Atk -Spd Azura + New Moon, Wings of Mercy 1

Lucina attacks Lon'qu. Azura dancers Lucina. Nino uses Draw Back on Azura (out of Klein's range to the right). Lucina kills Lon'qu. Kagero moves into Klein's range (but not Gunter's).
Klein suicides into Kagero, Gunter and Robin advance, Draug and Matthew spawn.
Can't say I remember what I did next exactly, but it involved, in no particular order,
>Nino ORKOs Gunter
>Nino tanks and ORKO Robin and Matthew (on a defense tile?) (Lucina's Rally Speed gives Nino enough Spd to double Matthew)
>Kagero ORKOs Donnel
>Lucina tanks and ORKOs Lilina
>move out of Sully's range towards the north, have Nino OHKO her when she advances
>Lucina ORKOs Palla
>get Kagero closer to Mist to OHKO
>Clair and Narcian do the-move-into-and-get-Shove'd AI sillyness for two turns

The top right corner spawning Mist and Draug isn't a problem.
Top left is tricky to engage because of Klein's and Gunter's overlapping range, but Donnel and Palla are easy to dispatch.
Bottom left's Lon'qu is too fast to ORKO without a Brave Weapon or Swordbreaker, and Sully has 3 Mov.
Bottom right has Robin, Matthew, and Lilina, that are all ranged.

>>376406486
Well hot mustard. Now I need to figure out which bonus shitter to use since I don't have Ike and Zeph sucks on defense.

>>376407030
That's why I'm promoting the Askr heroes too. They're decent enough to hold their own in Arena.

>>376399978
This is an interesting development for Arena. My Kagero has a harder time one shotting enemies, and I think the meta will be more defense based as a result.

>>376407409
Really? Her job was to take care mages right? They are squishy i don't think 30% def would help them

>>376406486
FUCK. THERE GOES MY CAVALRY TEAM

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>promote my Zeph to 5*
>not even level 30 yet and his attack is almost rivaling my netural Hector
Jesus christ

>>376408428
Yeah, Zeph is crazy, especially with DC. Natural Threaten Def 2 makes him a force to be reckoned with

Why does /v/ never want to talk about real Fire Emblem games rather than this gacha game cancer?

>>376402553
Sanaki works better with the blade tome since she's slow

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>cavalry team beat the last defense map in ONE fucken turn
Will this game EVER get challenging?

>>376408759
Shut the fuck up

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Why is Sanaki so hard to get.

https://youtu.be/3XtLFfaC7Zc

>>376408002
Nah, with LaD she could easily kill most infantries in one hit. Even a lot of cavalry and fliers.

>now you need bonus heroes on defense teams too
0 defense wins for everyone!

>>376409172
I didn't know that. Thanks

This whole new ranking system for the arena has me totally hosed.

I am tier 15. But I am going to rank down hard.
To stay in rank 15 I have to achieve rank of 22400 or higher.
And I have never achieved that. And I imagine that it will be even harder to do so now than ever before now that you can actually receive Orbs for ranks. The competition will be fiercer making rank 22400 or higher tougher than ever to reach.

I guess I should just be happy for the Orbs I'll manage to snatch as I rank down each season now until I plateau somewhere far lower.

>>376408759
Because FE threads got kicked to /vg/ due to them being even more constant than FEH threads for weeks after FEH came out, from le "oldfag" contrarian whiners making them specifically in response to FEH ("Fire Emblem Thread not about Heroes" running title). It's not like the real FE games are good srpgs either, they're one step above Shitgaea. The real shame is that /v/ rarely has good srpg threads.

>>376409350
I just hope I'll be able to stay in the 3orb reward zone, I reckon 4 orbs is reserved for whales.

When will they finally use normal bonus heroes. I hate having to 3v4 every arena

>>376406486
>>376408374
>>376409172
>>376409247
I haven't tested this yet, BUT to get into the 900 feather reward tier, you only need to get a 226 score with a bonus character to double it to the 451+ breakpoint.

This SHOULD allow you to run a 3/4* level 1 bonus character with 3 5* level 40 characters and still score way more than enough points to hit 451+. Which means your level 40 characters will be fighting characters about 10 levels lower than them.

>roll three heroes
>three 3 stars

I bet the sub humans did this

Earned Orbs, was rolling for Ike, got Lilina istead, +Def -Atk

End me

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>Vantage Hector on a Defense Tile

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>>376410167
>mfw my -def Ike takes 0 damage from Hector while on a tile

>>376410167
Hey I have one too. I doubt he's doing anything cause I don't have enough sp to give him needed stuff

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>rolling for Tharja
>3 reds pop up
>2 Hinatas and a 4* Lilina

Could have gone worse, I guess

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>>376409150
One of my bros has been trying to get her for a while. I feel bad that I rolled her myself before the mages banner was even up.

>>376410258
Oh... did your Ike One-Shot that Hector?

I was just about to do something idiotic and see if my Hector could tank Ike on a tile. Good thing common sense told me to retreat so I could take out the enemy units safely.

>>376410438
Yes

alright /v/ do I upgrade my +spd -def Nino or my +spd -res Nowi to 5star?

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>enemy always gets to the defense tiles before I do

>>376410341
What IV's does Lilina have?
Hinata is great because you can sacrifice 2000 feathers and himself to produce very angry units.

>>376409875
The 3 starting characters ARE the "normal" heroes

>>376410486
-res

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>haven't gotten a five star the past few banners
>roll for Ike
>get a -Attack, +Res Lucina
NOT JUST A FLAT PIECE OF SHIT, BUT A USELESS FLAT PIECE OF SHIT

>>376410536
They're expensive trash though

>>376410629
The only "bad" one is Alfonse and that's because other reds like Ryoma exist.
Anna is deceptively fast with great RES and Sharena is also good.

>>376410430
On the first banner she took all my orbs.
I give up

>>376410529
Looks like I got a +atk/-res. Can I turn her into a poor man's Tharja?

And yeah since SI, I've gotten way less mad while summoning.

>>376410258
>Mfw everyone fielding Ryomas and Ikes and I field a Triangle Adept Robin

>>376409150
>>376410430
10head and that good for nothing Roy showed up for me when I was trying to get Alm. I'd be using her if I didn't already have a good Tharja

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>tfw you accidentally fuck up on the touch control inputs and end your unit's turn in a retarded way

Didn't feel like doing all of the last Defense map again so I just used a light's blessing.

>need to use bonus heroes on defense
>never face any bonus heroes in my arena runs
REEEEEEE

>>376410941
Tharja smells

>>376411219
Been seeing plenty of Ike. What game are you playing?

>>376410913
Oh, yes, best Boon and arguably best Bane.
Congratulations. If you don't have Tharja or Snacky, you could invest in her. She's one deadly unit with the right skills.

>+Attack, -Res Seliph
Is he worth making a 5*?

Is this the end of OHKO shitters?

>>376411550
Thanks, I'll start leveling her right after I finish leveling this Kagero I just promoted to 5*.

>>376411759
Only if you don't already have a good Ryoma, Ike, Eirika Lucina, Marth, Lyn, or Chrom.

>>376411759
He's already very fragile res-wise and before today I'd easily say go for it. But I feel the meta is gonna shift from OHKO'ing because of the new maps.

Personally I'd wait for the dust to settle for a bit, especially with how long it takes to get 20k.

>>376411815
>>376412146
Probably gonna see a rise in WoM and Escape Route

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vote for her

>>376411550
wouldn't -def be better since she is already going to faint from a light tap? plus her normal res seems good enough to use iceberg with

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Bring back Hero Fest

>>376412254
Healers seem a lot more viable too. Probably changing my LaD's to Fury's if I get a solid healer together.

>>376412097
Have a Lyn, but she's +Res, -Speed

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>>376412352
I love her!

>>376399978
P2W Gacha game?

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>>376412468
>brony teams with heal sluts

Time to bust out the wolf tomes?

>>376412146
>>376411815
Unless PvP turns into defense maps as well I don't see the meta changing at all.

Sure different units are more viable for defense missions than for regular ones, but the different quests have been encouraging you to raise a diverse stable of heroes anyway (for shit like "use 4 armor units") so that won't cause a meta shift.

>>376412352
>>376412620
Tharja will likey win by a landslide, but the new 3x voting thing for losing side might help. Who knows

>>376412523
I got one of those too. both of my beginning 5stars weren't that great IV wise

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Soon

>>376412682
Yas

>>376412802
I've only been getting defense maps so far today, so they might switch it up.

>>376412884
I don't use cavalry meme crutch so I don't care

>>376412884
Narcian when? Only one I missed since I started after his GHB

>>376412884
Hope we get 2 extra Ursulas like last time.

>>376413042
He's coming with ursula I believe

>>376412419
I figured she was one of these characters like Nino who ideally shouldn't be taking any hits period.

>>376412419
Yeah, I too think that for most mages +Atk/+Spd and -Def are the best possible natures.

Not sating that -Res or -HP are bad, they're certainly leagues above -Atk and -Spd.

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Is there any way I could make her usable if I was willing to go the extra mile?

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>>376413225
Can I salvage a -SPD Linde? Out of the 37 orbs I burned, she's the only good one other than Lon'qu that was worth it

How doe Rauðrblade+ work? Does it only add in battle bonuses like rally attack or does it also include A slot bonuses?

>>376413410
Her attack power is pretty bad, but she has great defenses. Maybe a tank role could work with her? Her HP is also pretty bad too, so the HP+3 seal might come in handy.
She also has Tri Adept normally, so she's a good hard counter to the faggy greens running around arena. (Hector, Cecilia, Julia, and Nino)

>>376413410
She's suppose to tank a lot of hits. Give her distant counter and a proper weapon instead of armorslayer.

>>376413758
only the bonuses from rallies and hone/fortify

>>376413758
The former. Rally skills, and C passives from teammates will boost your power. There's also Eirika and Ephraim as teammates, who will give you an extra buff with their unique weapons

>>376413758
A slot bonuses and spur skills don't count. If you want to know if the buff will add up to Raourblade, just check the blue numbers, those are the buffs that count.

>>376413758
Only battle bonuses.

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>>376413804
Gonna go out on a limb and guess he, like most people, don't have a Hector for skill fodder

>>376413451
She'll lose a lot of KO potential, but she's still a beast. I would invest in her and pray to the RNG Gods they give me a good Linde with good IVs sometime, and merge the old one to the new one, transferring every learned skill.

>>376413889
>>376413926
>>376413954
>>376414016
Cool thanks

>>376414109
>love live
Kys

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>>376414364

>>376414364
t. Sissy cuckold

So i've decided im gonna finish training the askr characters for arena. Sadly i massively fucked up and promoted each of them up at level 20 in the 2* and 3* ranks so my SP situation is kinda shitty.

Tell me if I fucked up Alfonse badly?

>his personal sword
>Sol, Aether someday hopefully
>Deathblow 3
>Renewal 3
>Threaten Attack 3

I went for this thinking it'd be great but then I got a closer look at his personal swords effect and realized that it only activates the attack buff when hes at 50% or lower hp.

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Is anyone else having fun with his lovable cake waifu?

>>376414883
Sol and Aether kinda suck. A damaging skill would be better. Renewal also doesn't really help him. A Brave Sword+ helps him a lot, but it's not really worth sinking over 40,000 feathers onto Alfonse of all characters.

>>376414960
Dammit, I just noticed I didn't give him the atk+6 skill

>>376414883
Use brave sword and swordbreaker

>>376415029
>>376415275
>tfw have to grind sp on alfonse now

Well fuck. I guess i have plenty of time to do that since i dont have enough feathers to 5* an ogma

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>>376414960
>A green with Triangle Adept beats out a blue

Whoa... My brain is... Expanding... I can feel my nuerons running wild...

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>>376414960
Cecilia is fucking garbage outside of brony teams whereas Julia and even Nino without her incest siblings backup out perform solo. Eat shit.

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I'm getting no defensive wins, who needs to be swapped out? I'm thinking defensive tiles might be fucking up Nino/Kagero but I'm not too sure.

>>376415803
Titty monster needs to go

>>376415803
>I'm getting no defensive wins
The season just started, chill. But if you get nothing by friday, then panic.

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So if I inherit a level 2 skill would I have to inherit all 3 parts again if I ever got the ability to inherit the last one? Also how are my Azura's skills?

>>376415721
Cecilia is a good budget option just because she can stop the endless amount of blues and the occasional dangerous colorless unit with a cost of 20k feathers and a Selena/Roy/Cordelia. No Reinhardt, no Linde, no Olwen, no Kagero to deal with? Sign me up.

>>376415803
Literally the first day, nigga. Wait at least two

>>376416061
No, you can get a separate level 3 of whatever skill without needing the former levels just fine from another unit

>>376416061
you can always take 3 skills from another unit so you get 2 free skills from whoever you sac for part 3

she just needs moonbow now. also, hone > spur

>>376416104
I haven't been getting def wins for probably 3 seasons now

I even run two dancers and don't get any wins

>>376416276
thats good to hear.

>>376416061
Looks like a typical basic bitch Azura. Nix Speed+ passive for something better. HP+5 might be ideal for longevity.

>>376416421
Yeah I know but I figure spur would synergize well with wings on a refresher

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>>376416490
It might just be luck of the draw. I haven't missed a defense so far and my team is dumb.

>>376416716
And you're absolutely right, especially if you're coming to the aid of a mage that won't be moving from their spot.

It's completely situational, but most people here don't bother experimenting

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>>376416734

>>376415803
Kagero is having a hard time with the defensive tiles.

Since this is the only Fire Emblem thread up I'll say it here, just need to get it out of my system.

>Echoes is actually getting more pointless censorship
Holy fuck Nintendo. Fucking stop.

>>376416734
I think it has a lot to do with who you have as your leader.some characters might intimidate people

build up a 2* Ana to 4* or just level a 4* Barst for this week?

>>376417279
Where?

>>376417279
Such as?

>>376417279
Reminder that Nintendo is THE cuck's console.
Mobile gaming is superior.

>>376417324
people will always pick Advanced and not care

>>376417279
This isn't an echoes thread so fuck off to feg

>>376417469
Not true. You can forfeit before getting into a fight if you see a leader you don't like and your streak won't break

>>376417424
He's whining that they took out drinking alcohol from the game despite the fact that you can't do it in the japanese version. So basically hes whining about them taking out something that isn't even accessible in the japanese version.

Reminds me of how people complained about nintendo removing the bug that let two male miis get married in the localization for tomodachi life

>>376417576
I didn't fucking know this HOLY SHIT

>>376417279
confirmed fake, stop putting that bullshit

>>376417661
I'm guessing this alcohol reference was in the original Gaiden and just absent altogether from the remake? I'm a pretty heavy anti-censor fag myself but if this is the case then it's fine imo

>>376417345
Anna

>>376417858
>I'm fine with some minor censorship
Kys

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>last arena fight
>fight is worth like 6 less points than usual but click it anyways since I want an easy win
>its spring camilla, cordelia, cherche all at +10 and a level 20 titania
>on the oasis map

Literally only survived because of a defensive tile. I never want to see a fully buffed gronnblade spring camilla again.

>>376417739
They don't really mention it at all until you're in the screen where you have to pick an opponent, so many people gloss over it.

>>376417925
Interpret that however you want. I don't really care.

>>376418250
>I don't care
Ur the reason trump won

>>376417858
It wasn't a reference, it was a mehanic that was scrapped from the japanese version of the game, yet people are blaming NOA.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AKs5cjAd7Po

How do I build a +atk -res Takumi?
Is vantage good on him or is there something better?

I've got absolutely no idea what skills to put on Nowi,too many good ideas.so far I've only put bonfire on her because I forgot about the cooldown penalty

>>376419149
Same here, got a 5* Nowi that I haven't put anything on yet. Just stockpiling sp for now while I level her.

>>376418573
Was the mechanic removed because it was pointless/unneeded, or was it to appeal to western sensibilities? This is the major question, and likely won't be answered.

The Japs are gonna blame gaijin for this anyway, which is probably a good thing if it means Nintendo should stop fucking with stuff

>>376419085
Vantage is good because he has close counter. If you get rid of close counter (why would you anyway) then don't put vantage

>>376419149
Nowi is great because she has a bit of variety with her skill set. I'd recommend trying to compliment your team as best as possible

>>376417279
The 3DS is designed for children. Their primary audience is children. That's why there is excessive censorship. Not defending censorship, since I already played the Nip version.

The Switch has a much better chance of having less censorship, because it's primary audience is adults.

>>376419584
Isn't the Switch's main audence the same as the Wii U's?

Didn't that Atlus game for the Wii U got heavily censored?

>>376420243
Nah, I'm saying this as a Wii U owner. I haven't bought one, and don't plan to.

It's more for PS4/PC owners who never got a Wii U, but wanted to play it's best games, and couldn't justify a Wii U purchase

>>376419584
The 3DS is designed for EVERYONE, you tool. Even the fucking advertising has a variety of age ranges playing it. But because children fall into the EVERYONE category, Nintendo feels the need to play parent and remove things so they don't get lip from stupid westerners

>>376420576
So your opinion is worthless. Got it.

>>376419584
The problem isn't the target audience of the console. It's the fact that NoA sees themselves as primarily a family friendly company while NoJ doesn't give as much of a fuck. Either way the whole alcohol thing is absolutely retarded because it was never in Japanese version and the reason behind it's removal will never be anything other than speculation. NoA is responsive for a lot of stupid shit, but this isn't something they need to be shat on for.

Are we getting some free feathers again soon?

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So is it absolutely worth it to promote the 3 donut steels?
At the current rate of feathers, it would take more than a year to finally see a return on their investment.

>>376421620
Get them to 4* and then don't get hit, nigga

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I don't like the arena much, even with the new changes. Also -Speed Hana is literally the worst. That might have something to do with it.

>>376421620
They'll always be used for quests and arena bonuses so there isn't any harm in doing so. Sharena is actually pretty damn good, Anna is alright, and Alphonse is kinda shit. So if you're going to max out one of them then it should be Sharena.

>>376421908
You get two (2) free neutral IV Hana from daily banners. What the hell are you doing?

>>376422084
This was a super old one I pulled with my original 20 orbs just hanging around.

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>>376422317
And the other two are also hanging around. If you're insistent on using Hana for arena bonus, then you better drop some potions

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Defense tiles in the arena making it hard to get defense wins?

Say no more, famalam.

>>376422982
This is actually quite clever, anon.

>>376422982
Does this work with mages?

>Gauntlet doesnt give EXP or SP or HM
Why tho? Why haven't people complained more about this instead of having losing teams coddled?

>>376422982
>*teleports behind you*

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roll for ike once more and get a -atk alm to join my red sword squad:
-spd ike
-spd lucina
-spd ryoma
-atk marth
why wont isis let me enjoy swords
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt1Pwfnh5pc

>>376422982
BROKE: using Drag Back and staying safe
WOKE: using Lunge and committing suicide

>>376422982
eh might work on your team, but defensive teams probably swap off def tiles.
Still might surprise one or another

>>376423640
At least you can pass windsweep to someone also
>merged Ike
What was the other one's IV

>>376424027
they were both -spd
the one im using is +hp and the merged was +res
i think i should've used the +res one instead

Easy arena win, no issues and all four of my units are alive.

Opponents last unit is azura andmy hector is right in her range to bait her into finishing herself off.

Get greedy and send robin to attack her because theres a hole between her and robin meaning he can attack her safely.

Robin dies, idk wtf just happened.

Realize azura has distant counter afterwards when its too late.

>>376423640
>roll 20 orbs on a whim on hero fest because god tier focus fodder
>+spd ryoma
>+atk chrom
>neutral hector
git gud

>>376424237
Japed

>>376422575
I find it a better use of my time to just use the -speed one and complain about it on the internet.

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How is this defense team?
Bonus heroes really fuck me up and I wanted to keep it all horses.

Or should I just switch clarine out for anna?

>>376424638
if your anna is 5* yeah. Hows Xander working out for you? what skills did you slap on him

>>376423342
All the movement skills like lunge, drag back, hit and run, dont work with ranged units

>>376424638
>Tinyhands and Thundercunt
That's all you need, senpai, especially since Xander is keeping them safe from Space-chan. Use Anna, she could probably catch someone off guard and apply pressure

Holy fuck, I can actually deal with Tinyhands Thundercock now.

>>376424805
I wish they did just for the gravity memes that would pop up

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>>376424638
Put >>376422982 or drag back on your Xander, so he can pull enemies off of defense tiles and let your mages clean up.

>>376424917
All I have is a +atk/-res Nino. Needs a res buff with Fury 3 in order to survive. Not like it matters since she's fragile to begin with

>>376409350
It's rank 22400 in your tier, not overall. To stay in your rank you need to be in the top 70% of your tier. Above 50 and you rank up.

>>376412884
Thank goodness. Can't wait to get some deathblow 3 for miscellaneous units.

>>376424763
Vantage is fucken amazing on Xander.

>>376424894
My Anna is 4* though. Not sure how effective she could be.

>>376425454
Seems like a waste of a B skill slot desu

These tiles are fucking stupid

>>376425508
But we've got defensive terrain now!

>>376426167
They seem to work quite well for me on offense

>>376426167
t. Asshurt glass cannon fag
As someone who has consistently used units with over 30 defense these defense tiles are basically free wins.

>>376426616
I'm getting the exact opposite.
Nothing ORKOs anything anymore.

>>376426498
>imblyign they won't change he rotation

>>376424894
Who is space-chan?

>>376426720
My Effie still gets ORKOs. It's nice.

Why do people care about defensive wins? Are you all that desperate for feathers? I don't even know where to put mine.

>>376426720
>>376426167
>REEEEE WHY CAN'T I MARCH UP MY BLADE MAGES AND INSTAGIB PEOPLE FOR FREE WINS
Eat shit faggot. Enjoy the extra 2-4 def you get from those tiles. Maybe you'll even learn something about strategy and positioning.

>spend money
>get the pull you wanted but feel bad afterwards
Who else /deepintherabbithole/ here?
Also, anything I can do with a 4* Marth?

>>376427041
HURRDURR WHY DONT YOU HAVE A HECTOR

>>376427032
send them to me then

>>376427041
Strategy and positioning have nothing to do with this game.

>>376427184
You can send feathers?

>>376427250
no,as any trading would fuck up their gatcha system

>>376427176
I don't have Hector. There are plenty of other units with high defensive stats that are strong as fuck on these tiles.

>>376427209
Only if you're a taggot that abuses the shit out of blade tomes.

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>>376426720
Other than a horrible first round I managed to keep everyone alive

>>376419279
The mechanic was "removed" in the sense that it was actually repurposed instead.

Alcohol is still in the game. Only now. Instead of being a consumable recovery items that only some units in your army can consume. It's now something you can use to strengthen the gimmick of the game. Which is actually more useful.
But people are still throwing a hissy fit over it.

>>376427632
How's Robin. With his high ass defense, I would imagine he is viable again.

>>376426720
My Tharja is still destroying most things

>>376427209
Positioning is literally the most important thing in this game

>>376427791
Pretty much no non-green can deal significant damage, and mine doesn't even have optimal SI

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Let the voice of love take you higher

>>376427209
>itt: I play pokemon competitively

>>376428056
Go back to /feg/ where you belong.

Part 4 is some faggotry.

Hit and Run Cain and Abel, two healers, and complete fuck you reinforcements who prevent simple walling.

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>>376428056

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>>376412884
I need to 5* my Ursula already.

>>376426923
>>376412620

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>>376428304

If you have a good green, abel explodes instantly. Used eldigan to kill cain right after.

Anyone with distant counter can kill the healers really quick. This is a very good hector map.

Part 5 on the other hand is pure bull.

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How goes the arena? Managed to break 4700 even with 1 death and zeph being useless. I really hate these bonus heroes

>>376412884
I seriously hope we won't have to use Navarre or Narcian to kill her for the quests this time.

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LET THE JOY OF LOVE GIVE YOU CANCER

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>replace mage sided maps with nice open maps with defensive tiles for strategies
>get pic related twice
literally makes my effie useless

>>376429102
Use stuff like poison strike, savage blow, and rising skills to get her to 1 hp and its no prob. Saved me alot of grinding with the robin and navarre battled

>>376429102
Are you ready for the "kill level 40 Navarre with Ursula" quest?

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>>376429080
I lost the first match and lost two units in the second and third.

I am not a clever man.

Vantage or Quick Riposte for 5* Xander? I figure I might as well train him up to assist the Tinyhands and Eldigan I already have.

>>376429080
Good enough. That map with the four squares of terrain in the middle is cancer, especially when they have fucking Reinhardt and a Dancer.

>>376429640
Drag back and dancers with cavalry on that map is the worst. Goddamn I hate cavalry

Death Blow or Life and Death for +SPD Julia?

Gotta get ready for the gauntlet.

>>376429591
QR = stand back and bait
Vantage = charge in and fuck shit up

>>376430000
>Vantage = charge in and fuck shit up

wut

>>376428785
Yeah it sucks when you are f2p and don't have a fuck ton of Hectors out the ass for distant. I nuked Abel with Nino and the rest was RNG.

>>376430061
Vantage allows you to play a lot more aggressively

>>376430136
Distant counter is just a meme for offense teams. Just run someone with it on their weapon, thunder breath is common enough. Your A skill is better put to use improving stats then it is to allow you to counter.

>>376430207
for 1 turn

>>376429080
4814

Hopefully I stay in max rank. I'll have 40 000 feathers after the gauntlet, so I'm tempted to just promote the starters for the weekly bonus units. I doubt I can roll an Ike each gauntlet.

>>376430456
If you have a high enough attack, any relevant threats would kill themselves on the first hit.

>>376430136

>not having a hector after hero fest

>>376430716
Probability is a bitch.
As a f2p, I didn't get squat.

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>>376399978

is there literally any good fliers at all? All of them, at least the ones i have, are all sub-par compared to their infantry, armor and even cavalry rivals.

Also, is ryoma +def -spd usable in any manner?

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>>376399978
I love how they make it seem like you need to survive, but if you kill all enemies on screen, the map ends anyways. Only map 3, the one with literally no way for non-ranged units to attack, is the only true "defense" map.

Pros of having these in arena:
-Tanks are now actually somewhat useful units
-Healers may find a niche now due to pain dealing 10 damage regardless of everything else.

Cons:
-Battles take way longer now because you want to keep yourself on defense tiles while not letting your opponent be on any.
-It's annoying to have to calculate the defense bonus, because the game doesn't do it for you.
-Armors with distant counter are probably going to get way out of hand.

Overall, the best part of this update is the new arena awards.

Hinoka and Cammy are great.They'll probably see a rise in useage soon since Takumeme and other archers are seeing a decline in useage.

>>376430823
S. Camilla
Cordelia
Arguably Hinoka
Minerva

>>376430823
Minerva is the best green. Palla's a surprisingly solid red and has goad fliers. The blues are kinda meh but good enough and if you get hone fliers you can stomp anything.

>>376430000
First it was the takos, managed to overcome that, then dancers, a lot more careful now sondoing fine. Now it's the vantages I swear to god all these ryomas with vantages are ending everything, hector is still a joke but ryoma must be ended fast or ruins everything

>>376431030
What? Hinoka is like a dedicated takumi killer, even without +atk

>>376431031
>>376431073

i wish i had minerva to try her out, but so far i've rolled 3 Hectors instead. And the best fliers i got is 5* Clair, Catria, Palla and Michalis to cover all bases. Feels like it would be impossible to do the 10th stratum challenge with them.

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>>376431259
She's fun. Good luck getting her.

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>>376430823
90% of units without unique 16mt weapons are shit, and the only fliers with them are Minerva and Michalis. They're outclassed by green mages like Julia and Nino, and their high def doesn't matter for much when most blues and greens in the arena are mages anyways.

Spring Camilla can be decent with heavy inheritance, if only because she's the only mage flier.

>>376430937
>Armors with distant counter are probably going to get way out of hand

I think the next GHB should contain a mechanic where if you bring in Hector, dragon breath wipes him off the map immediately like an orbital laser.

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>>376431665

>bring in hector
>not bringing in zephiel and Effie with distant counter instead

>>376429857
Life and Death would take her to 35 Speed, 36 with the +1 Speed Seal. You could have someone give her a Hone/Rally Speed buff and take her to 39/40 I guess, but the -5 to Res would hurt her mage countering capabilities.

>>376431665
I was annoyed that I pulled hector instead of Ryoma on the banner, but this might have been a turn for the better. He's +hp -spd, so his bulk will be absolutely insane with these tiles.

Do we get a GHB this week? Not sure if I want to roll on the mage banner or not.

>>376431915
That meant a Hector had to die to pass it on, which works for me!

>>376432415
https://twitter.com/FEHeroes_News/status/861882558811848704?s=07 tomorrow

Just pulled a +Def/-Res Sanaki. Should I bother with her since I already have a +Atk/-Res Lilina that I've already invested a bunch in, or is it just a free Triangle Adept 3?

>>376432415
We'll get Ursula reruns tomorrow apparently, but not a GHB with it's own banner and new unit

>>376432482
Oh, that's really lame.

+spd -res nino OR +def -spd nowi
Finally got 20k from this last arena and now I can't decide

>>376432629

Xander just ended. It's too optimistic to think another would already be coming.

GHB reruns are good. A few have good skills to pass over.

>>376432629
If this make you feel any better the next GHB is yet another sword.

>>376432815
It depends entirely on the rest of your team.

>>376432482
If i have a 4* Ursula, can i win again another 4*?

>>376433169
Probably through quests.

>>376433169
Thats how it worked last time they reran a GHB

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>already got two defense wins
>they were against Cavalry abusing shitters
Neat.

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>bonfire hector can kill pretty much any red sword when in a fort

Gutsy!

>>376433169
Same as the Navarre and F!Robin reruns, I'm assuming if you won one before, you can't again. But they'll be giving out new ones? I'm just looking toward to merging them all into my 5 star Ursula eventually

>>376433169
No. The only way you'll be able to get more copies is through quests.

>>376433294
The most possible scenario is that they lost a unit and quit to return for a deathless run.

Also get a better green. Nino is a sitting duck on that team.

>>376429640
Both times i had that map i fought a pretty similar team with archer, red and two blues and killed them easily since they sucided onto Azura and Robin

>>376431665
>Hector distant counters the field

>>376433585
>most possible scenario is that they lost a unit and quit to return for a deathless run.

That's pretty much what I do

>>376433585
>get a better green
No. The entire point of this team is that it's most likely impossible to engage on one unit without getting hit by two other ranged units. I get wins every season with this team.

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when

So if an armor team uses ward and fortify and parks thenselves on a fort, they just win right?

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This is what i got after getting enough orbs to go all in thanks to the event.

What do i do now?

>>376434071
>rolling 4 grey orbs

Are you retarded? I'm not even trolling I want to know if you have brain damage or something.

>>376433960
Anyone with a dancer would blow holes through your shitty team.

>>376433958
Anyone who knows how to play this game knows that you're supposed to quit when you get a death. Deathless streaks are the only ones worth pursuing.

>>376434071
Fill your defense team with healers

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>>376434071

>>376433968
The 11th probably

>>376434071
>pulling 4 colorless
I mean, you did azama out of it but why in the hell would you waste those orbs like that?

LaD is bad on Zephiel? Is Atk+3 better?

>>376433775
>the ground shatters, dropping all your non-flying units into the abyss
I guess that's a spectacular way to fail a GHB.

>>376434261
Yes
Yes

>>376434158
Good thing not everyone uses dancers then huh? I'll keep this team the same. Don't fix what isn't broke and all that.

>>376434261
Distant counter is optimal.
Attack +3 if you don't have spare hectors.

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>Omg, did you know, that like, I'm totally from the Ice Tribe in my world? Ah, like, now you really know~

>>376434421
>Good thing there are retarded players, huh?
Yes, and guess where your wins come from. Guess where almost anyone's defense wins come from.

Wait, so now you can earn feather from offense, defense, and tier rank too? Not to mention the orbs. Wtf I love IS now!!!

>>376433084
Alright still deciding on my units but it would be about substituting Abel or Julia

>>376434630
you could always earn feathers that way? Only thing is the orbs now and some extra feathers for defense if you use a bonus hero there

+speed -def Titania

It seems I finally got a unit with good stats. Is she useful though?

>>376434896
>He thinks having -defense on a tank unit is good.
Ahahaha, what?

What skills I should get for +atk/-def thundercock.

>>376434673
... You're not understanding. Your team should have a main focal idea. For example, is it going to be a cav team? A distant counter team? Is it going to be a -blade team? You don't just slap 4 units and call it a day.

>>376435019
Death Blow.

>>376435019
LaD
Blue-breaker
Hone Cav

>>376435019
death blow and dragon gaze then filler support skill. he needs someone that can handle julia though.

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Rate defense team.
Soren has only Rexcalibur+ and Darting Blow.
Olivia is level 14.
Lilina is the only one that's properly decked out but has no level 3 skills.

>>376434834
Hmm? Last I checked, I only received feathers from offense and defense.

>>376435349
>tfw only 280 defense points

>>376435389
Because you were probably a fucking shitter who didn't do deathless runs with a bonus unit on your team.

>>376435389
That's because if you don't rank, you don't get any feathers.

Congratulations on letting us know you don't even break the top 100K players.

Why the fuck does every team I gave now have a dancer in it? Is this the new meme?

>>376435472
>>376435478
But mate, why do I have tier 13 now? ._.

>>376435507
>The new meme.
Every single dancer has been s tier since the beginning of the game.

>>376434996
Titania is fast. +Spd kinda cancels the -Def.

>>376434182
Seems like it was a year ago when Takumi was actually a threat in the Arena.

>>376433321
Even Ike?

>>376435507

Yes the meme is to use a dancer to one shot someone and deny you of max points.

>>376435716
Because you don't need to hit the 100K tier of players for you to become a "great general" or whatever?

>>376435730
Only in the same sense that lucina was considered s tier. Dancers are only good for defense.

>>376435975
Any special that use stats ignore weapon triangle. Lukas and Xander can pretty much kill anything with a single ignis proc.

>>376435152
Eh then what about a balanced team, got an example for those? Or is going for a theme the only real option, is the meta really just like that?

>>376436207
Are you fucking stupid? Dancers are literally half the reason -Blade teams work.

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>>376436098
>tfw I found 5 of those in two days and they all failed to even damage my units

I wish there was a Replay function so they could see their hours of training, Feathers and Orbs spent crumbling like a pathetic house of cards in a matter of minutes.

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>>376428056

>>376436286
Is Ignis good for Hector? I have moonbow on him right now.

>>376436370
Blade teams are shit on defense and are no better than any other meme team since all you need to do is kill a retarded ai without losing a unit.

>>376436298
The "balanced" part of it comes after the focal point. For 3 ample distant counter teams want nowi, hector, and Ryoma. It completes the full triangle, all 3 have built in distant counter, and nowi is even magic for some magic balance. Having a central theme makes everything else fall into place.

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>>376419149
>>376419268
Late reply but if it helps, this is my Nowi. She's +Atk.

TA makes the need of Swordbreaker almost irrelevant as she will almost always ORKO any sword unless they have high Res, and Vantage is always a good scare in general. C skill can be changed between a Hone skill or her innate Threaten Res. I pair her with Nino and Ike so the extra Spd is always good.

>>376436532
All teams are shit on defense because they're being controlled by ai, you stupid fucko.

>>376436492
You should make use of his high defense and give Bonfire, even if he's -Def, he'll still get a respectable 17 Damage Bonus.

>>376436492
No. Bonfire. Ignis takes way too long to charge.

>>376436770

>too long to charge
>someone attacks hector, 1 charge.
>hector counters, 1 charge.
>enemy follows up because hector has garbage speed, 1 charge.
>armads activates, hector attacks again, 1 charge.
>hector now has ignis ready to bop another unit, if he had bonfire in this situation it would've went off and been wasted.

>>376436661
That isn't true and doesnt address the more important aspect of how they're no better than cav or flier meme teams Dancers being somewhat useful in a single team comp doesn't make them s rank.

>>376436683
>>376436770
fugg I have no bonfires.

>>376436492
No, bonfire.

Mages are going pop him before the special gets ready. Bonfire + vantage allows him fuckup with anyone not named Xander.

>>376436153
Then, it's beneficial to shitters like me? Yay!

>>376436959
Stop posting any time, retard.

Is roy the worst unit in feh?

>>376437178
That title exclusively belongs to Sophia and Felicia.

>>376437178
No, he's not great but there're many units out there that are worse than Mr. 4* TA fodder.

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Say something nice about my Lilina.

>>376437271
Sophia is honestly decently bulky, she could probably function decently well as a Raven tank.

>>376437178
That's not Beruka.

>>376437271
Is felicia that bad? Right now I'm using her in defence cause more points, but if she's that bad I doubt I'll even get some off of her.

>>376437430
Belka is a wall and have a killer weapon to boot. Give her Ignis + QR and she will be fine.

There isn't a real useless character on the game, aside healers, mostly because everyone have a specific niche.Fir is terrible no matter what tho.