What went wrong?

>>376397809
>Lets make a midly modified WoW clone that'll surely make people drop a game they've put a decade of life into!

WoW babbies won't leave their shithole for a reskin of said shithole and people that don't play shit games don't want to play a WoW clone.

>>376397809
- boring story that doesn't use it's lore for shit and send you directly in a "muh chosen one vs evil space dark goo" garbage
- battles lack of impact. Never seen a game having such silent, unimpressive explosions and battle animation, you often die silently.
- the areas are too small and too packed with bases and monsters. They promised a new land to conquer, but it's packed like Disneyland
- pve is boring and unrewarding with the shitty "if you finish that instance and get its loot, you will be able to do THAT instance and get its loot, so you can make that OTHER instance.

Their main content was a buggy mess, but they still insisted to push out new buggy content while not fixing anything. Classes were really unbalanced, and patches took way too long to come out. Raid attunement system was a complete shitshow.

>>376397809
>hotkey skills
>quest-based character progression
>kill x quests
>autistic furfag ERP makes up 90% of the playerbase
>annoying haha so funny XD borderlands claptrap-tier meme rats
>we aren't WoW!

>>376397809
They lost me when they started by advertising player housing that turned out to be just more instanced shit.

The aesthetic is bad

>Haha so wacky and random! *guitar noises*
>Cartoony style but not an entertaining one like Overwatch

I just want to fucking chill in fantasyland, fuck sci-fi

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>>376398225
>- battles lack of impact. Never seen a game having such silent, unimpressive explosions and battle animation, you often die silently.

That really bothered me as well. There was no weight behind attacks, and very little reaction from the target. LARPers have more impact in their battles with foam weapons.

>>376398225
>- pve is boring and unrewarding with the shitty "if you finish that instance and get its loot, you will be able to do THAT instance and get its loot, so you can make that OTHER instance.

Isn't that all MMO pve in a nutshell?

>>376397809

pvp was a broken, bot infested mess since day 1

endgame 'attunement' was too difficult for 90% of the playerbase

carries through attunement were pointless, because the endgame content was also too difficult or 90% of the playerbase

world bosses were buggy messes that constantly reset, ruining the experience

>good parts

housing was best in the genre, by far

surfing

leveling world pvp

>>376399959
housing was pretty good except that it was instanced

The PvE progression was awful. Having to do those terrible expeditions to get mediocre gear was painful. Especially the one that is like an hour long escort quest. Could have really benefited from some WoW style dungeons that actually gave rewarding loot.

PvP was alright but kind of a spam fest and not balanced. Also the battleground maps just weren't very fun. World PvP while leveling was ruined by the massive penalties for level differences.

The Housing was actually really good, probably the best feature of the game. Built jumping puzzles in my house and it was lots of fun.

>>376400264
Housing was seriously the funnest part of this game.

They started out thinking they could survive on a monthly subscription model when even WoW was losing numbers at that time. Had they started out F2P with a cosmetics cash shop, I have no doubt they'd have carved themselves out a nice little profitable niche.

bad game

borderlands of mmo

mandatory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IgVS9yNFGg&list=FLA3bB0NwOhyteh2YUqdkwzw&index=412

>>376397809
ugly characters and feminist pandering

>>376397809
I got permaB& off the forums on the first day for saying I hated chinese hackers...

By a mod with a MLP avatar

They tried to use gameplay elements of Vanilla WoW like 40 mans but no one really wants them anymore. Not even Nostcucks

>>376397809
MMO. That is all.

>>376401202
And TBC leveling elements like kill 1000 aardvarks , bonus for 200 aardvark livers.

>>376397809
>shit combat
>started off subscription based
>we want the furfag audience
>le feminism is awesome tier humour

It's hard evidence that nobody actually wants the vanilla/BC WoW experience, they just want vanilla/BC WoW nostalgia.

>>376401658
well they want the vanilla/bc wow experience, but they don't want it outside of a game that's not wow.

>>376401804

If people can't stomach the gameplay of vanilla/BC WoW without the nostalgia fuel that is vanilla/BC WoWs look and feel, that to me says it's the latter people like, not the former.

>>376401658
The vanilla WoW experience was the best MMO ever made, but it's impossible to recreate.
>Be NEET
>Find guild to gear your character
>Tell guild to fuck off, once geared
>Find raiding guild
>Gear to T3 and destroy everyone that didn't do the first 4 steps in BGs all night while pounding alcohol and burning bowls

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>>376400576

>>376397809
>play beta
>mechanics seem alright I guess
>level up
>"HOLY !&@#! YOU JUST LEVELED UP, CUPCAKE!" blares through headphones
>uninstall

>>376402251
I always wonder who comes up with these things, if there's a situation at the dev team where everyone with a brain is telling how cringey it is to the out-of-touch writers or creative leads or investors or something.

>>376403012
Or maybe they're just having fun

>>376397809
memelands tier humor and pandering to "hardcore" raiding crowd

>>376399404
>>376400107
How else do you implement housing in mmo, without having like 10 houses that cost arm and a leg to get.

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>the battleborn of mmos

>You leveled up, Cupcake
No. Don't pretend you have any kind of personality when you explicitly copied WoW attunement in an attempt to grab an audience and then ran it back because people who want that shit make up 5% of your customers.

A bunch of ex-blizzard guys made a new dev studio but none of them knew or cared to work together

>horror stories of how convoluted the update pipeline was to get shit put into the game builds
>they were unable to push MUCH NEEDED bug fixes, balancing, itemization and performance optimizations through it
>these guys were supposed to have experience developing MMORPGs which makes it all the more confusing, how did they manage to bungle EVERYTHING so badly?
>the guy running the studio apoparently had cancer and promptly quit to deal with his health issues (actually makes a lot of sense if the guy running the show was inaccessible, Vanguard was hot shit because Brad was likewise unreachable due to being busy doing DRUG)

Wildstar splattered like a wet turd hitting the bowl without Blizzard having ever even bothered to get off their lazy asses and issue a SINGLE update patch to WoW in the entire time Wildstar was in closed/open beta and launched

>>376403256
>How else do you implement housing in mmo
you can't but people who only watch games instead of playing refuse to understand.

>>376403116
The problem is that manchildren cant discern between cringe and fun since they are mostly socially awkward betas thus resulting in

>>"HOLY !&@#! YOU JUST LEVELED UP, CUPCAKE!"

since they think that they understand the "gaming" culture simply following normies trends which ends up being cringey as fuck.

>>376403361
damn there are more players on a ultima online private server