Are Consoles Dead?

>>376394408

Consoles are for people with irl friends.

>>376394408
Amount of casual market on consoles and the "social" aspect/impression they have.

Consoles still have the convenience market cornered. And they're cheaper.
Not by much, granted, but they do.

Piracy is harder on consoles
Consoles are a cash cow for manufacturers
Manufacturers fund exclusives for the consoles
People buy consoles for the exclusives
Poorfags who can't afford a decent PC buy consoles anyway because of lower upfront cost

>>376394474
Most consoles don't have split screen.

Have you never had a LAN party? Seriously most gamer girls game in PC. LAN events like Dreamhack and Blizzcin are great for getting laid.

>cheaper
>pcs break down and explode all the time
>bigger game community
>more exclusives
>portability
>less hackers
need i go on?

>muh esports

>>376394601

>LAN party

I don't have that many friends, you patronizing bastard.

>>376394408
Because pc has no games

>>376394408
Because of how they are marketed
you can
>run apps like netflix and stuff!
>play BD discs
>play games
>game with friends right there with other people on the couch

>>376394549
When you factor in the higher cost of games and online memberships it seems to be a lot more expensive. Granted most Esports are F2P or have free DLC like Overwatch.

>>376394553
What exclusives? Third person action games? Basically interactive movies with QTE? I'd rather just go to the theater.

People like to pop a CD into a system knowing it's guaranteed to work.

>>376394613
I've had four pcs over the course of my life and all of them still run today. Meanwhile I had 3 seperate Xbox 360s because the first two crapped out after about a year each.

>>376394693

The Xbox One S is the best blu ray player out there.

>>376394720
Bloodborne

>>376394742
ordered a prebuilt and it literally caught on fire during a game
pc gaming never again

>>376394408
Cheaper to start with. It's aimed towards poor people, in the same way cheap products of poor quality ending up being more expensive than buying something proper right from the start.

You could say that consoles are a kind of tax for poor people that keeps the industry alive.

>>376394720
It's basically just Halo on Xbox and weird Japanese titles like Bloodborne/Nioh/Persona on PC.

>>376394720
I've actually had a very similar conversation with a bunch of "normie" friends of mine.
Most of them buy only a small handful of games, like, ever, and none of them bought into the whole paid online thing.

The way it stands, if you're a HARDCOOR GAMR, then yeah, PC is the better bang for your buck, but if you're a bro who just wants to chill out with Madden and CoD, or, like, someone who ONLY PLAYS DESTINY, EVER (Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you, Devon) then a console is still your best bet.

>>376394613
PCs don't break unless you don't take care of them. Also lol at bigger game communities. Sorry but League is probably bigger than all console games combined.

>>376394685
Yeah that's why the top Twitch games are all PC titles.

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Japanese developers still favor consoles by a wide margin. Maybe around 40% of major quality Japanese releases find their way to PC, and usually months late. Most of my fun this year was had on Nioh, Gravity Rush, Zelda, Persona 5, and Yakuza 0. Japanese are still the quality leaders in action games, fighting games, platformers, and have started to offer great JRPGS again. If you like any of these genres, you basically need a Sony and Nintendo console. You can still have your PC, just get a job.

>>376394813

Buying games on consoles is more expensive, though.

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>>376394408
>>1080p 144FPS is super affordable
>Discord is amazing

>>376394842
PS4* 4chan needs an edit button/I need to stop posting mid shit.

>Esports twice

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>>376394613

>cheaper
Four games cost as much as the console itself here. Meanwhile, this isn't the case with PC where you have regular sales on Steam, or the price of a game is 1/4th of a PS4 game.
>break down
If you're retarded, maybe. I'm typing this on my 7 year old build, the only thing i replaced on it was my GPU. Everything just works.
>bigger game community
Nice bait.
>more exclusives
Wrong. And, PC can emulate exclusives easily, see BOTW.
>portability
Not an argument. I can take my PC with me if I want to, but I rarely had a reason to. If you're talking about "muh couch with controller, you can do the same on PC.
>less hackers
Maybe, but still a fucking lot.

>>376394881
That was his point

>>376394408
I've literally never seen so much bullshit in one greentext but well, here we are

>>376394859
>Yeah that's why the top Twitch games are all PC titles.

Twitch is popular because pc gamers watch games
They don't play them

>>376394725

PC games work if you system isn't trash.

>>376394768
Weeb edge crap.

>>376394786
>Prebuilt

That is where you fucked up. Prebuilts use cheap parts. Get good parts and build your own, McPCs always breakdown.

the only worthwhile PC exclusives run on a toaster. why would I ever upgrade.

>>376394935
None of this matters because you can't play bloodborne, yakuza 0, nioh, the last of us and so on on the pc

It's a machine for porn and early access garbage
Anyone who loves games has a console in their household

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As someone who plays both pc and ps4

Consoles are just way better. The amount of hacker's in every game just make me turn the power point off and not touch it for a week.

Don't have that problem at all on console.

And the pc community is just cringe on all levels. Spouting twicth memes 24/7

>>376395083

>machine for porn

If you're a NEET then maybe, but I work on the thing.

>>376394989
Consoles have no Pro Esport scene. There is nothing to watch lol.

>>376395083
Why would I want to play that trash? Single-player games are for nerds who can't compete in multiplayer games.

It's very simple anon
As long as there are casual consumers and PCs have a degree of customizability aka potential to fuck them up, consoles will be a thing
We're sorta enthusiasts of the hobby, so we enjoy spending a lot of time and money to enjoy more and better content
But some normalfriend shmuck who just wants to play fifa for an hour is totally fine with a console

Now the interesting part I don't really get is how many consolefriends are on this supposed enthusiast board
Why would you spend so much time with your hobby, to the point where you spend your free time on vietnamese rice picking discussion halls talking about them, but then go for the most entry-level option of consuming said hobby

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>>376395058
Which are?

>>376395180
>Hackers

Seriously what garbage games are you playing with hackers? I have never experienced hacking, then again I usually win.

>>376394408
>Are Consoles Dead?

>consoles are still the target platform for new games

if anything, consoles are the life support machine for PC. if it wasnt for consoles, there would be no games for the PC.

>>376395180
>The amount of hacker's in every game just make me turn the power point off and not touch it for a week.

Agreed. Whenever I see hackers in a console game it's because the game is cross-platform and the hacker is on a computer.

That said I do play some computer games, but usually it's the ones that I want and aren't on consoles. Often ones with a lot of mod options like Dwarf Fortress or Crypt of the Necrodancer that wouldn't work well on console thanks to how they handle outside files. Consoles are getting better about modding, but aren't there quite yet.

>>376395242
Minesweeper and Baldur's Gate II.

>>376395180
Yes THIS
Holy fuck it's like any game that has any playerbase that's alive is infested with fucking hackers

It really does suck

Also steam is a damn shithole

I also own a PS4 and a PC

Also I'd like to say hi to my friend Jon
Greetings from your friend Robert Bogdan
Hope you're doing well buddy

>>376395191
I should probably add that some people just enjoy their exclusives, which is a valid point I suppose
But when you mostly play the same games available on PC then you're a lost cause

>>376395339

King of the kill
Overwatch
LoL
Csgo
R6S

Just to name a few

>>376395242
Just check the front page if Twitch. You probably wouldn't know what most of the top Esports are. Stick to your JRPGs and Third Person Action games console cuck.

>>376394408
Accessibility anon. Anyone can buy a console, hook it up, and play shit on it.

For PC you either build one yourself, or pay out the ass for something good. Next you gotta set up all your stuff, download drivers, updates, etc. Finally you get to play the game buuuut it may or may not shit itself (if it does then guess who has to fix it).

Its all about convenience.

>>376395189
>There is nothing to watch lol.

youre right. everyone on the console side is busy actually playing the games.
because you know, thats what video games are for, to play, not watch. moron.

>>376394408

>Stupid but interesting question as title
>Post is immediately about opinion

tl;dr

>>376395410
>Also steam is a damn shithole

Agreed. I bought one game on Steam, took a look at Steam, got it refunded. The TOS doesn't even let you own the game: you buy USAGE RIGHTS!

When I found Gog I never looked back. Itch.io is also OK, but Gog is better thanks to higher standards.

>>376395339
I don't get it either
I play tons of multiplayer games and haven't met a blatant hacker in years
But since I'm not an awful player I get tons of hackusations, which makes me believe that most of these supposed sightings are just shiiters crying about people with short reaction times and accuracy, and that consoles mud the skill difference between shitters and good players so much you can't really stand out that way

>>376395396
Yeah cause Consoles gave us MOBAs, Overwatch, ect.

>>376395189
>Consoles have no Pro Esport scene

Not true. Fighting games are exclusively played on consoles. Other than that yeah, you would be right.

>>376395517
>little anon not so tough after he realizes that all media works on a license-basis

>>376395524
One of the people hating on hackers here. I saw one last week on the Gwent Beta.

He had two more cards than he should have had in his hand. His deck did not let him draw extra cards. I saw him play a card and his hand count didn't go down. That looks pretty hacker to me, so I call a spade a spade.

Yes, people hacking in a beta where it's all likely to be wiped. WTF.

>>376395517
The worst thing is that steam owns PC gaming

They're fucking assholes, they wanted to charge for mods, didn't add refunding for around a fucking decade until the law made them

I bought so many broken games that I never got a refund for

They're fucking cunts

Also, they keep putting broken shit on steam because they're too lazy to check if a game is even a game

>>376395524
They probably using controllers on PC and getting rekt.

>>376395460
There is no Pro scene or Esports because there is no skill in consoles. Just 12 year old kids, ghetto niggers and virgins like you.

>>376395529
Overwatch sold more on consoles

>>376395446
I exclusively play on PC, though. I was just asking.

>>376394408
In terms of commerciality? Accessibility + sports games.

For the latter part, manager sims-aside, it's not really taken seriously on the PC market at all. Take Konami still porting the PS3 and 360 versions of Pro Evo to Steam. Hell, a few are even exclusive in some cases (Like Sony holding the MLB license with The Show).

>>376395583
>all media works on a license-basis

Lol... no. If you think that you're part of the DRM problem, friend. Owning a copy should mean owning a copy. Only fools buy in to glorified rentals.

>>376394742
Granted, other consoles also make fun of 360s for that.

>>376395648
Source? Even if that's so Overwatch Esports is PC only. The skill level is way higher on PC. Too bad you chucks can't get the Nexus Skins.

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Hey guys, what's the point in something I don't care about? Everyone in my echo chamber agrees with me. Are some people pursaded by something other than cost?

>Why would someone not care about esports?
>Why would someone not care about esports?
>Why do some people not care about framerates as long as it's playable?
>Why would someone not care about Twitch?
>Do most people not know what discord is?
>Do most people not replay games?
>Random statistic I pulled out my arse to validate my sheltered views (even if it is close to the truth)

Seriously why do people play games I don't like? Why can't the world think like meeeeeee reeeeeeee

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>>376395760
>Too bad you chucks can't get the Nexus Skins

They actually can. You can hook your BN account up with your PSN or Xbox ID.

Also

>Overwatch
>Skill level

>>376394408
Consoles are pretty alive currently lol
In fact i like to argue they console devs produce better games... to bad about shitty pc ports though. Also like to remind people that pc hasnt had a crysis situation since...well crysis this is because devs no focus on the graphics capability of consoles not on pc. Which means the graphical difference and therfore the money to throw at a gtx1080 ti gets you less thatn new cards got you in the past. Cause no one actually uses the power of the cards cause everything is now consoles, the only thing you can do is suberficial shit like increasing 1080p to 4k resolution or more aaa lol barely noticable shit if you dont run a side by side comparison.
In the past pc games were made with ultra settings in mind everything below high looked bad like really bad cause they just lowered random shit cause you were supposed to play on high. But now the settings are focused on medium/consol setting and not ultra today ultra and high settings are the afterthought.
Ultra settings today are shit compared to the past. Still worse most aaa games on pc today are ports from console pc doesnt really have a aaa pc only dev this means ultra or any higher than console settings will be an afterthought for foreseeable future. Hardware manufacture notice this, notice that new cards and more power are actually not needed thats why the sudden focus on 4k even if a difference on a average 4ktv to 1080 is not see able for the average consumer AND everything not 4k (like literally almost everything on tv) looks noticeably not different and in some cases worse than on a full hd tv.
This all makes me think the only thing pc today has is console aaa games with shit optimization for any non "console" setting and indy games.
Considering all that its the pc that is currently looking worse even if it has a much bigger games library at least if you are stupid enough and go for high end shit like 1080 ti while not using vr.

>>376395708
Better read those license agreements of everything ever again, biccboi
You never own the thing, you always only own a license to use the thing in a private manner
Hence why you're not allowed to sell, copy, distribute and so forth the content
The only difference 'physical' media has is that the license is bound to the disc

>>376395603
All good reasons to buy into Steam's competitors. There's also the fact that Steam dicks creators around sometimes, too. Also revoking keys as a common glitch. It's so common it's in the FAQ. That's really unprofessional!

I tell everyone I know about Gog because if we put our money elsewhere Steam will eventually fade out. Gog even has an optional Steam-like service called Galaxy if people care about groups and stuff. There's zero reason to use Steam when better options exist all over.

> But the game is Steam-only!
Consider waiting for them to release it elsewhere, check if it's on their own site for download outside of steam, or buy an alternative game. Most non-crap games are released with at least one version OUTSIDE of steam!

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>>376395798
(You)

>>376394474
But I play PC with all my irl friends.

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>>376394408

>Consoles
>Dead
>Implying AMD is not alive because Microsoft and Sony keeps giving them money which helps with the Ryzen and Vega R&D
>Implying Microsoft didn't just spent a shit ton of money on Scorpio
>Implying Nintendo is not making the next Switch revision
>Implying Sony doesn't have a designs for the PS5 yet
>Implying Majority of the Publishers and Devs at the next E3 doesn't support Consoles

>same cost
A PS4 is $250. Find me a pc build that will play Battlefront 2 (or anything coming later this year) for that price.

Or find me a $400 build from 2013 that does the same.

>>376394613
>pcs break down and explode all the time
what in the fuck are you talking about
>portability
this only applies to handhelds, and most people aren't moving their consoles once they've been set down

>>376396109
is that sarah

>>376395896
Of course copying a software is illegal you retard
But you do own the disk and can resell it all you want

>>376395889
This is what PC fags forget
The reason why we get good games on pc is because those games are console ports

No developer except a few exceptions for niche games will make a PC exclusive

That's insanity and will lose you millions

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This whole PC vs Console thing really comes off as teenagers trying to find an artificial sense of superiority after buying into reddit propaganda, Every working adult I know that plays games usually has a PC and a console or two for the exclusives. You don't play Smash? You haven't played Bloodborne? The fuck are you doing out there. Drop cash, play games. One platform has always been the stubborn brainlet option.

>>376396197
>Of course copying a software is illegal you retard
But you do own the disk and can resell it all you want
That's what we call 'moving the goalposts'
Your initial argument was about you not 'owning' things on steam
Well guess what faggot, you never owned the thing, you own a license
Don't be surprised when you argue semantics and it blows up in your own face

>>376396160
>what in the fuck are you talking about
What, do you not install fucking garbage malware and pirate programs from notavirusfreestuff.biz?
Are you some kind of casual or something?

>>376394601
>Seriously most gamer girls game in PC. LAN events like Dreamhack and Blizzcin are great for getting laid.

>Implying that XoXoGa3M34GIRLoXoXoXs are anything but attention seeking whores
>Roleplaying that you got laid at the autistic LAN events.

>>376396074
But it validates me!

>>376396268
I'm not the same anon cunt

>>376394408
Lets be honest, consoles are basically what you start on as a child and you switch to PC with age. There really aren't any advantages at all to them anymore

>exclusives
Nobody gives a shit, on the ps4 itself no one actually buys them. All multiplats

>price
more expensive if you play online OR buy a nomral PC every 5 years (most do the first, everyone does the second)

>>376396370
Why would I give a shit? The argument stays the same even if you took up the reigns of the other side

>>376394693
>le couch meme

Getting sick of this shit.

>>376396428
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>376396197

It does suck that all video games are developed for and under console hardware first nowadays.

Remember when the OG Xbox port of Doom 3 had entire levels cut and sections of other levels heavily shortened/simplified/split up, with basically all effects removed?

Playing the PC version of Doom 3 years after the Xbox port as a kiddie was a pretty great surprise.

>What is the point of trains in 2017? Everyone (5 people) I know drives by car. Trains just seem like less options for the same cost.

>>376394601
>gamer girls
>getting laid
Get the fuck off my board scum

>>376394725
Not anymore

I now game exclusively on a surface tablet with a Steam controller

>>376396461
Straight up 13 years old
Quite amazing

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>>376396487
>that metaphor

Consoles are fine when you want to just plug something in and go.

And even if it's been smoothed out there is still an element of tediousness with PCs, things don't work, sometimes things are a little broken, and what we think of as easy is a complete chore to other people.

>>376396416
>Nobody gives a shit, on the ps4 itself no one actually buys them.

I buy them
Millions of others also buy them
I do have a gaming pc with a ton of games, but some of those exclusives are one of my favorite games ever
I also love the variety of exclusives on the PS4

From yakuza to bloodborne all the way to uncharted
And then you have rpg's even

It's a very rich environment

PC has that issue of everyone plays the same 5 games forever
Dota 2, CS:GO, TF2, LOL and so on
The worst thing is is how these games got famous with fucking RNG loot crates

>>376396483
It's just a huge bother to do that for devs and they don't care
And then you have those awful ports where games run like ass for no reason
It's a real shame
The worst thing is how the "master race" is so picky that even games that run good will get shat on sometimes

>>376396604
I-I tried. ;-;

>>376396672
Nigger you said a train cost the same as a car.

>>376394408
>Everyone I know plays on PC.
Woah... everyone i know plays on consoles... what world are you from?

>>376394408
Consoles in their current from are dead. Nintendo entering the tablet Market has caused quite the stir. Theres no way Sony and Microsoft aren't paying attention to that shit.

Next Gen will be interesting.

>>376396691
I meant that a train could cost you more with time than a used car + fuel and shit. Or that's how it is in my country.

Just like how OP said that a console costs more than a PC with paid online.

>>376396661
>Millions of others also buy them
The best sellers are basically all cod/fifa/gta etc.

>>376394408
Exports and twitch are fucking cancer, I'm glad they're confined to Petition Race.

>>376396857
So what?

Let's face it. The only few advantages consoles had over pcs went out the fucking window this gen.

>put disk in and play instantly
Nope. Now you have to fucking install games and that takes ages because consoles are running on 5 yo hardware.

>local multiplayer
Devs don't care about that shit anymore because hiw else are they gonna make you keep paying for online.

>generally cheaper
Lolno. With no such thing as sales buy 4 games and you've already surpassed the price of the console itself.

>>376396857
sales are sales

>>376396890
>>376396934

Practically no one cares about the exclusives (outside of v). A lot of retards here will list it as an advantage without realising practically no one cares.

>>376396901
Installing takes no time at all
And consoles are super cheap and you don't have to worry about games not working for whatever reason

>>376396661

It's not even that its a bother for devs or them not caring; It's just straight up not feasible on any level of logic nowadays especially for mass market AAA development.

It takes far more resources, time, and money to take something to its fullest potential on one platform and then having to downsize it on several levels for other major systems on the market--not doing so cuts out massive profits altogether, which is how games development evolved to where it is today.

>>376396857
Yeah and I'm sure the PC best sellers are masterpieces like Minecraft and LoL...

>>376397017
> practically no one cares
Don't talk shit
Millions of people buy these games and you think that doesn't matter
Dumb bastard

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>>376397050
>best seller is a free2play game
Do you stupid fucks even read what you type?

>>376396829
College / Work , basically it a NEET

>>376396867
Esports and Twitch are the future. You can still a NEET loser.

>>376396857
Are you retard?
>pcfag
You must think every game need to be f2p like lol huh?

>>376394613
you sound like one of those moms who freaks out when her kid installs a game because you think it will infect the pc

>>376396857
And? Sony uses the money to get exclusivity deals to only have games be on sony consoles. What does valve do with all the money they earn? To make more hats and skins?

>>376397017
>no pne cares
>selling million
Where did those million come from? From the developer?

>>376397080
>>376397183

They don't. Open your friends list and it will be cod/fifa/gta etc. Only one in the top 10 is uncharted which was bundled. How are you not aware of this?

>>376397050
All memes aside PC exclusives are regularly in the steam best sellers regardless what you think of them

The reason consoles still exist is because it generates money and fosters competition. They are marketed and work as cheap gameplay experiences that are easily accessible. In this ecosystem, PCs work more as a premium device that occasionally gets its own exclusives while pushing the ceiling of videogames. But consoles will always be the money maker.
If consoles didn't exist, producers have to ask: who is our userbase? Who do we market to? How do we insure consumers feel they are getting the full/same experience other users are getting?
It's basically the same reason different food chains exist.

>>376397152
>To be a best seller on PC BR poorfag pirate race you have to be literally free
Can't make this shit up. At least console gamers are willing to invest in their hobby instead of being fucking parasites fighting for scraps.

>>376397152
>what is microtransactions, pay2win etc.

PC had that shit before it even was on mobile

>>376397173
Hey most people i know from work and my friends in college also play on console. Of course few of them actually have gaming rigs too.

>>376397038
>Installing takes no time at all

Haha yeah right. I remember when we had to install gta v on a friends ps4 it took like 3 fucking hours to complete. What a fucking joke. Maybe you're just used to console waiting times and it seems quick to you.

>are consoles dead?
>when ps4 is selling like hotcakes

the better question is "how fucking stupid is OP?"

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Forgot picture.

>>376397256
>PC exclusives
You mean monthly early access survival games with micro transactions?

>>376394553
>People buy consoles for the exclusives
You're a retard if you think people buy them for exclusives.

>>376397173
>esport
So play the same game forever, don't you ever tired of it?

>>376397293
>best seller is a game that isn't sold

>>376397331
No, of course I don't. As I said all memes and shitposting aside they are regularly in the best sellers.

>>376397256
>PC exclusives are regularly in the best sellers of a PC game distribution platform

WOOOAAAAH

>>376397354
I bought a PS4 for Bloodborne

>>376397396
same doesn't happen on the xbox oir ps4 >>376397323

>>376397378
Yep, pretty pathetic.

>>376397354
God just shut the fuck up
I bought my PS4 for exclusives
They're great

>>376397401
Compare Bloodborne to the sales of any one popular multiplat on the PS4 like COD or Fifa or GTA or Minecraft. The only exclusive popular enough to move PS4 units was Uncharted 4, and even that game pales in comparison to your average AAA console multiplat. Bloodborne sold less than fucking Splatoon.

>>376397256
What the fuck are you talking about? Do you even know human language? You tell me no one care about exclusive but they still selling million and look one of your gay friend playing it whoah no one care about it huh?

Let me ask you again? Are you born retard or just a average shit for brain dumbass?

>>376397485
lol >>376397323

No one does (or a very low percentage if you want to go autism mode)

>>376397437
What's your point?
What are you trying to prove/get at?

>>376397475
When I play bloodborne I'm thinking about how I'm playing one of the best games ever made

I sure as hell don't let sale numbers define if a game is worth my time

And bloodborne sold a ton of copies and is known as one of the best games ever

>>376397471
>God just shut the fuck up
Sorry you cant' handle the facts you little pissant.
You don't fucking matter. Nobody cares what you think. The most played and most bought games on the PS4 are multiplats.

>>376397318
Pc cucks are craving to shitpost after seeing nintendo and sony getting good games like BoTW and P5
T. Idort

>>376394786
wew

>>376397549
>What's your point?
This board is completely out of touch with reality and doesn't realise that its mainly used by normies for multiplats

>>376397550
And?
What is your point?

>he most played and most bought games on the PS4 are multiplats.

Or is that it? That's where it stops? And why does that matter?

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How are you guys enjoying Gravity Rush 2?

>>376397323
>shitty version of minecraft above bloodborne

lol

>>376397549
Cool story bro. I own a PS4 and bloodborne so spare me your "best game eva!!" bullshit. Sales numbers define what people are playing

>And bloodborne sold a ton of copies
It's not even in the top 3 PS4 exclusives, almost none of which people bought PS4s for aside from UC4 and maybe Horizion.
>and is known as one of the best games ever
By whom? It's not the highest rated game on the PS4 and didn't even win the most GOTY awards the year it released.

>>376397546
So? Where is that no one cares? You can't even understand basic math let alone human language. Are your seanigger? Because those cockroach are basically cockroach just like you.

E-sports has killed PC gaming

>>376397637
It matters because the whole point is people do not buy consoles for exclusives you drooling ape. Every sales and most played metric we have shows that multiplats are by far more popular on consoles.

>>376397602
Alright

>>376397760
None of those things matter
What matters is that it made enough money and is a great game

But that's a strange thing to you
That people care about having a fun game to play and not jerking off to benchmarks and cs:go crates

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>>376394408
And what games are worth buying a giant overpowered PC for exactly? Undertale?

>>376397702
>new niceh ip sells less than game for kids

AYO

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>>376397803
>You can't even understand basic math let alone human language

>Where is that no one cares?
>those cockroach are basically cockroach

>>376397820
>if everyone doesn't do something it means nobody does it
Okay man

>>376397760
I hates people like this faggot. Turd look like he come straight from some faggy website like kotaku.

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>>376394408

I wish they were. /v/ would be slightly better, without completely blatant retards. We'd have people good at pretending not to be retarded.

>Seriously why are consoles still a thing? Kids? Normies that just play Call of Duty and Madden?

Also weebs.

>>376397863
>but muh few exclusives

12 year old mentality.

>>376397807
You only say that cause you have no skill.

>>376397973
>fatass 4 eyes nerd video gamer with gay meme hat on
>skill

>>376397972
not an argument. literally no reason other than muh 4k 6000000000000000000000fps

>>376394685
THIS.

>>376394408
>Seriously why are consoles still a thing?
Disregarding the load of bullshit about your post

>Consoles don't need a sliver of knowledge to use as you'd need it for a PC
>A PC that's actually superior to the average console needs more money, effort and knowledge
>PCs don't have any actual worthwhile exclusive for 90% of people compared to consoles
>Nintendo games aren't on PC unless you count emulation so go back to point one
>Devs and manufacturers like consoles more than PCs, especially in japan, where the vast majority of games come from
>Games just werk on consoles whereas on PC you need to tweak them by yourself, so back to point one
>PC is infested with people who use hacks, making most multiplayer games unbearable
>If you actually want to run a modern game on max settings and use emulation to its fullest you'll pay a load more money than a console
>Steam is a shithole of a community and is riddled with DRM
>"E-sports" like DOTA or Starcraft aren't nearly as mainstream or important as other games and people still play FGs on console primarily
>Discord
>The average joe is too scared of viruses and too dumb to avoid them, consoles don't have this problem altogether
>PCs are still seen as a workstation first of all and gaming device second

So yeah, you PCfags are still going on and on how consoles are worthless since 20 years or so, they're not going away or lose relevance any time soon, just become an idort already and enjoy everything.

>>376394408
I know no one who still plays on PC.

Who even likes to play on PC? I mean most people already sit in a chair for 8 hours a day working staring at a screen from close distance, they don't want to do the same when they come home.

PC gaming also sucks because some games can be banned, like I could not play the uncut version of Wolfenstein here a and would need to change my IP to a foreign one just to play. Some games like Fallout or Dying Light get censored automatically on PC here if they get released on Steam and why would I go through all that trouble when I just have to feed my PS4 a disc and don't have to pray that Steam doesn't ban me for switching my IP?

Then you have to spend a lot more on a PC and you don't need to upgrade a console.

PC community is pretty toxic and full of hackers. They ruin every game they touch, just look how nice the Dark Souls community was before it got released on PC. Most PC players are from 3rd world nations like Brazil or Russia and it's just shit.

And the biggest: PC has no interesting games since almost a decade. The best games get released on consoles, see Zelda, Mario Kart, Bloodborne, Persona 5, Yakuza 0....I see no reason to pay for a PC.

>>376397973
>video game
>skill
>play the same game over and over until you become a literally robot and lost every functions of life

>>376397846
>None of those things matter
They absolutely fucking matter you twit. The fact that the best selling games and the most played games are not exclusives, and that said exclusive is less popular and less acclaimed even compared to other exclusives on the same console matter infinitely more than your irrelevant personal opinion on the quality of the game.

"It made enough money" and "is a great game" mean absolutely fuck all when we are talking about what games people are buying consoles for. I literally own Bloodborne so your masterbation over the game is completely pointless. Jerking off to a game's exclusivity is infinitely more pathetic especially when you're in denial of hard facts and data showing what people are playing and buying consoles for.

>>376398102
Pretty much this

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>>376397937
I hates people like this faggot. Turd look like he come straight from some faggy website like neogaf.

>>376394408
>esports
>AAA console exclusives

I think the choice is obvious

>>376394408
Don't you faggots ever get tired of making these bait threads?

>>376398070
>>PCs don't have any actual worthwhile exclusive for 90% of people compared to consoles
FActually untrue>>376397323
Noww look at steam

It's pretty fcuking clear which one the average person prefers

>>376398136
It's a good game because it's a good game
Not because it's only on PS4 you fucking retard

It would be a great game on PC and xbox too

>>376398102
:D
Lol....

>>376397921
>if less people do something it actually means that more people do it. People buy consoles for the exclusives despite the fact that multiplats sell far more and most people who own a console don't own exclusives.
Okay man.

>>376398212
You know the sad part? Some faggots on /v/ actually agreed with him.

>>376397863
emulators

Only thing I play on my PC is BF1, indieshit and Gamecube/PS2 games. Always been a consolefag

>>376398102
>I live in a literal bubble and am completely out of touch
Ok man.

>>376398219
>worthwhile exclusive
What PC worthwhile exclusive? Early access survival game?

>>376398102
>they don't want to do the same when they come home.
Then connect it to a TV and play from your couch?

>Some games like Fallout or Dying Light get censored automatically on PC here
No, they're on the index in germany, which means that they can't be advertized openly, that doesn't mean there anything's changed about them


>would I go through all that trouble when I just have to feed my PS4 a disc
Because especially those games are best played with mods

>Then you have to spend a lot more on a PC
Debatable

>and you don't need to upgrade a console.
You don't need to upgrade your rig either if you're staying within the same gen and are content with console-tier settings

> PC has no interesting games since almost a decade.
Entirely subjective, PC has whole genres that are just flat out nonexistent on consoles

>>376398239
>it's good cause it's good!
nobody is even debating the game's quality you retarded cunt.
the only reason it was brought up to begin with is because it's exclusive
even though the entire argument is over what games people are buying consoles for.
try to keep up kid.

>>376398219
Are you the average person?

>>376398373
The only games that even matter right now are high quality indies which are basically only on computers.
That and modding. The rest of video gaming is just pure soulless garbage.

>>376395451
Actually this is the main point. Not everybody know about building a PC, and buying a prebuilt one makes you hate the PC Gaming because they're just crap, using shitty components.

If you know how to build a PC, or if you know someone that does, go for it, PC Gaming is your thing. You also will have lot of responsabilities to take care of.

Maintaining all the OS integrity and security may be the most difficult task for someone that doesn't know about computers, so I understand that somebody that doesn't even know what the fuck is a driver prefers to buy a console, because all the integrity and security management is automated, and if it brokes, the manufacturer takes care of it.

>>376395189
SmashBros, Tekken, Street Fighter...

>>376398102
You're too stupid to use a pc

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>>376398021
>>376398114
Why is the World Jewery so gigatriggered by Based E-Sports? Is it the grass-roots community? The glorification of intellectualism over barbarianism?

>>376398442
I'm pretty sure Germany censors games rather heavily (or used to)

>>376398026
144+ fps with mouse and keyboard are alone reasons enough for me to play pc over console.

>>376397973
Most esports shit is sadly teambased and if anything created cancerous communities.

>>376398373
>If I don't personally like it then it's not a worthwhile exclusive
Ok man.

>>376398373
CIV, DoW, ARMA.

LoL and Dota alone are more relevant/popular than every other exclusive on every platform combined.

Stuff like battlegrounds is very fun despite being early access trash (and would almost certianly be the console best seller if it got a port, just like aark and minecraft)

>>376398468
>rimworld
>factorio
>battle brothers
>star sector
>dorf fort
>battlerite
Man do I love me some indies

>>376398442
>Because especially those games are best played with mods
>i-it good with m-mod i-i s-swear

>>376398070
>Consoles don't need a sliver of knowledge to use as you'd need it for a PC
Mental retards can and do use PCs. I know that's slightly above the mental faculty of a console user, so I guess you're right.
>A PC that's actually superior to the average console needs more money, effort and knowledge
Knowledge, yes. Money, no.
>PCs don't have any actual worthwhile exclusive for 90% of people compared to consoles
MOBAs, MMOs, Counter Strikes and similar are extremely popular.
>Nintendo games aren't on PC unless you count emulation so go back to point one
Imagine a retard playing a game. Just picture this, whatever comes to mind first. You imagined him playing mario.
>Devs and manufacturers like consoles more than PCs, especially in japan, where the vast majority of games come from
Oh shit. I can tell I'm being baited but I can't stop now.
>Games just werk on consoles whereas on PC you need to tweak them by yourself, so back to point one
Mental retards can and do use PCs. I know that's slightly above the mental faculty of a console user, so I guess you're right.
>PC is infested with people who use hacks, making most multiplayer games unbearable
Exaggeration.
>If you actually want to run a modern game on max settings and use emulation to its fullest you'll pay a load more money than a console
"Max settings" have become a really strange thing that barely means anything. Stupid high resolution shadowmaps and obnoxious amounts of AA - who really cares about that?
>Steam is a shithole of a community and is riddled with DRM
Ok, that's true.
>"E-sports" like DOTA or Starcraft aren't nearly as mainstream or important as other games and people still play FGs on console primarily
Speculation.
>Discord
What about it.
>The average joe is too scared of viruses and too dumb to avoid them, consoles don't have this problem altogether
The average joe is not scared enough.
>PCs are still seen as a workstation first of all and gaming device second
lol, ok dad

this thread is so fucking bad OP's mom should be ashamed of her self and OP should an hero
fucking dumbass inflammatory bullshit with no substance behind it
sage

>>376398470
Two of those are arcade games.

>>376398493
They used to, yes. Mostly when it came to nazi symbols, but sometimes violence, too.
That's a thing of the past, though, the only thing they do nowadays is ban certain games from being advertized

>>376398450
>even though the entire argument is over what games people are buying consoles for.

Link me the post that said that
You're the one who went on this rant for some reason

>>376398442
>No, they're on the index in germany, which means that they can't be advertized openly, that doesn't mean there anything's changed about them

The steam version is completely changed for dying light, left 4 dead and so on

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>>376395436

>plays KotK and overwatch
>accuses other people of hacking
>is just really bad

kill yourself

>>376398442
Wrong, Wolfenstein is heavily censored, you cannot remove limbs in Fallout and a lot of games are censored for violence in general. And even if you activate a foreign version sometimes they just change it for the censored one.

You cannot get a PC for $200 that plays games in a good resolution, let alone for $400, let alone for $700 which would buy you the entire 9th console generation today.

What genre, RTS? Because the only RTS this year so far has been released con consoles (Halo Wars 2).

>>376398468
>high quality
>indie
huh?

>>376398373
It's funny because Minecraft is one of the most played games on modern consoles, far more popular than any exclusive like bloodborne or persona 5

>>376398102
>The best games get released on consoles, see Zelda, Mario Kart, Bloodborne, Persona 5, Yakuza 0....I see no reason to pay for a PC.

This would be confirmation bias if these games were remotely interesting in any way.

>>376398545
>Imagine a retard playing a game. Just picture this, whatever comes to mind first. You imagined him playing mario.
actually I imagined them playing overwatch and shouting that their team mates are noob.

>>376394408
Esports are retarded and killing gaming.
Noone cares, see above.
It keeps going up, it will again.
No it's not.
No it's not.
Unless any of the PC parts arn't compatable.
Game hardware minimums change all the time.
Yes, kids these days don't apprecate what they have, i've never played either.

>>376398498
Watch out boys!
We got a member of the master race here!

>>376396216

>preaching to poor people and kiddos literally trying to convince themselves there is any other reason for them not owning all of it other than that they're poor

do you know where you are?

>>376398585
>Link me the post that said that
>>376394553
>People buy consoles for the exclusives

From that point on the argument was over multiplats being the major reason why people buy consoles. You're the one who went on an irrelavent rant over bloodborne's alleged greatness despite not being anywhere near as played as most console games.

>>376398476
I will like esport more if this shit sport aren't filled with pathetic beta fatass neckbeard skinny slanty seanigger thirdworlder

>>376398519
You can play all of those on a laptop
PC gaming is a joke

The only reason i use a console is because data-caps. I can't download games AND updates; they're way too large now. Being able to buy the disc, then only download small updates once in a while is the only way i can play... i miss my PC.. i miss having un-capped internet...

>>376398692
Everyone is poor here lol. I have $50k spare and can't afford anything apart from PC, yet most people have even less than that.

>>376398637

You imagined a person a lot more intelligent than a nintendo fan. Try again.

>>376398502
>defend early access shit
Yeah, such master race huh? My main system is pc but i never call myself "master race"

>>376398697
Yea you're right
I changed my mind now, bloodborne sucks dick!

>>376394408
most people don't give a fuck about "esports" and play games for fun/enterntainment.
>1080p 144fp
Only 3rd world poorfags play these f2p, scamshit which only purpose is to grind for thousands of hours just to fill the void of their empty souls.
Discord is shit.
You don't need backwards compatibility for your older games aslong as you keep the console. And no PC isn't cheaper than my $200 console.
>inb4 some retarded math full of assumptions

>>376398735
>it's not a real PC exclusive unless it needs a $2000 high end PC to run
Your life is a joke.

>>376398761
Where in the world do you live that you don't have uncapped internet at home?

>>376396216
It's mostly falseflaggers, shitposters, and 3rd world shitters like russians and Brazilians making these threads.

>>376398659
>>376398701

No skill NEET virgins detected.

>>376398601
>Wrong, Wolfenstein is heavily censored,
Yes, which can be fixed with a patch but alright
> you cannot remove limbs in Fallout
Old fallouts yes, 4 no, see further below
>and a lot of games are censored for violence in general
In the past, yes, not so nowadays
And how is this even a point against computers? That's just Germany being Germany

Consoles are generally cheaper up front, but average out to be higher over a period of time due to additional costs on games, internet and so on
Also you're obviously comparing equal graphical settins, right?

Management games
Logistics games
Simulators
RTS
TTS
Grand strategy
Dotoclones
Twitch shooters
Probably more if I had the time

>>376398515
I said worthwhile, please learn english

>>376398815
But master race is all about graphics and fps my man

>>376398568
Completely wrong. Nazi symbols get banned and violence sometimes too. Not that often but you still have some games that aren't released here or censored.

>>376398476
Why don't they just change the channel? Also does anyone have this proposal they keep going on about

>>376398812
Esports are the future of gaming. They are kind of a big deal. Sorry you have no skill.

>>376394935
Are you seriously implying that games on release don't cost just as much as on console? Just stfu if you don't know what you're talking about.

>>376398792
see
>>376398623
also that ARK shit on PS4 is more popular than most PS4 games. i never once referred to myself as master race. people like early access shit, being on consoles doens't change that. neither does your own opinion.

>>376398876
Anon I live in Germany
Censoring hasn't happe

>>376398850

You forgot FPS games because consoles don't have any of those.

If you want to claim otherwise, might as well claim paralympics are the same as the real thing.

>>376398552
Fuck, you're right. But you can play modern Tekken and Street Fighter games on consoles nowadays, and old ones on emulators on PC.

>CONSOLES ARE DYING

says increasingly frustrated PC gamer every generation

>>376398793
Link me my post that said Bloodborne was a shitty game.

>>376398961
>>376398876
ned in years
Indexed games just can't be advertized, but can still be sold
Stop talking bullshit hoping that I don't know about the situation

Forgot to cancel posting

>>376398949
Lots of sites like Greenman and G2A that offer discounts on release

>>376398850
Again, completely wrong. I can resell all my PS4 and Xbone games for a decent amount of money after finishing them. I bought Nier for €70 and sold it used for €45. If I had bought it on PC it would sit in my Steam library forever rotting away, no resale value at all. This makes console gaming extremely affordable if you don't plan on collecting empty Blu-ray cases.

>Management games
>Logistics games
>Simulators
>RTS
>TTS
>Grand strategy
>Dotoclones
>Twitch shooters

So....this is the power of PC?

None of these genres are interesting in any way to a mentally stable person.

>>376399001
If it was good it would sell more

>>376394683
you should probably just kill yourself, then

>>376398874
And? If you want graphics and FPS you can spend money on a PC that can drive them. And if you don't care about graphics and performance you can run most of those games on a laptop. Why is this somehow a bad thing? Why are consolekids so retarded when it comes to PC flexibility?

I have a pc with gtx 1080ti a ps4 pro and a switch.
I really regret gettting a ps4, its not a bad console but it doesnt provide a different experience than playing on a pc.
All ps4 exclusives have a mirror on the pc.
Uncharted? Tomb raider blodborn? Dark souls.
Not the same game but you get the same if not better experience to a point you dont want to deal with 30fps etc on the console.

>>376399031
Age of empire 2 was pretty fun my man. You take that back

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>>376398601


>only RTS released this year so far has been released on consoles
>Halo Wars 2 is the only RTS to get released this year
>what is battle brothers
>what is blitzkrieg 3

>you cannot get a PC for that plays games in a good resolution for the same amount as a console
>what is Intel G4600 (or whatever number the $50 processor is right now)
>what is AMD RX 480
>implying you don't have to buy a television to play consoles on
>implying the cost of buying a TV is somehow dissimilar to buying a monitor for PC
>implying you can't use your TV as a monitor

Look I get if you're a normie and you can't figure out how to build a computer for cheap, you will buy a console, but denying that you can build a decent rig for the same price as a console is mega-delusion. 10/10 bait

Heed my words, once fighting games fully incorporate themselves onto PC, consoles will be left in the dust completely

>>376394742
And meanwhile all of my consoles are still working even my nes, but the video card on my 5 year old pc broke.

>>376398623
Yeah seen that rich mexican kid with double graphic card? Shit was so cash.

>>376399034
Link me to my post saying that.
Or are you just going to shove words in my mouth all day.

>>376399095
Man are you retarded. A normal PC isn't able to handle a 40" 4K TV. Too many pixles for a small graphic card in a PC to handle

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>>376399031
>None of these genres are interesting in any way to a mentally stable person.

>>376399238
Windows has 4K support though, depends on the game whether it can handle it or not

However, you bet your ass it'll run anything better than a PS4 Pro

>>376399075
I'm a pc gamer
Just making fun of master race fags senpai
Don't be gay

>>376399085
Last of us, Yakuza 0, ratchet and clank, infamous second son are all great
Bloodborne is also kinda the best souls game

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>>376398762

that's my point, genius. most people on here are poor or underage and so the only reason they can't afford to buy whatever console or PC they want is because they have no money. if you had enough money to buy all of them you would just buy all of them and play everything rather than trying to have a pissing contest about which one is best, because the only world in which "better console" is relevant is when you're a fucking third world gypsy who has to choose only one over any other.

ironically, most third world gypsies play games on PC.

pic related, it's most of /v/

>>376398912
>no skill
E-sports are cancer nigger and I'm sure not going to play the same shitty f2p trash for years just to escape reality, ho-kim.

It's pretty fucking simple. Consoles are an artificially locked down ecosystem that will eventually crumble.

On the other hand, PCs will slowly become more and more artificially locked down as well, so we're fucked either way.

Also, majority of people on /v/ are very young and you're better off not taking anything said here seriously. If you found yourself in the company of people in this thread in real life, you would feel very uncomfortable. Like you walked into a schoolyard.

>>376399110
That might be because the NES has a processor made out of plywood with a few holes in it, nothing really that can be broken down

>>376399284
What games?
Bloodborne?

>>376399031
>I like linear story-centric games
>I don't like other games
>also my opinions are facts
enjoy you utter faggot

>>376399291
I honestly am just bored with most console games because they're sorry excuses for games.
Even the ones that are good aren't ambitious in any sense of the word. They're just doing shit that's been done to death and not growing the medium at all.

>>376399358
I only have so much time and I can't waste it on autism simulators. Sorry buddy.

>>376398601
>Because the only RTS this year so far has been released con consoles (Halo Wars 2).

Also you can't get a current gen console for $200 MSRP unless its' on sale or used. A $400 PC can easily run games at 1080p with settings that match or exceed consoles. $700 isn't enough to buy a PS4, Xbone and Switch unless again the store is offering a discount. And the PS4 and Xbone are still part of the 8th console generation including the Pro and S versions.

>>376399356
Multiplats I guess, since Bloodborne isn't on PC

Though no cheating now with running the same game on PC in native 4K while on PS4 Pro it runs upscaled to 4K

>>376394408
A console is 400. A PC worth a shit is at LEAST 800 for something that will run medium on current year games, plus you need accessories and a monitor. Pricing wise on games is the same outside of the odd colossal steam sale.

Then factor in shit like the possibility of things randomly not working due to weird hardware pairings or driver issues, and PC doesn't seem worth it.

But ultimately, the platform anyone should use is a) the one they can afford and b) the one their friends are on.

>>376399238

i laughed, "too many pixels in the big TV is too much for the small graphics card" was pretty funny. for the benefit of all the other retards i'll break it down though.

>implying a 4k TV doesn't play 1080p content ever
>implying TV or streaming content isn't less than 4K
>implying your consoleshit isn't upscaled to 4K

actually now that i make the argument i can't tell if you're joking

>>376399286
So you can't answer any of my questions because you're just a shitposting faggot. Got it.

>>376399397
And pc games do?
With what?
Survival games?

Last of us showed that a game can have amazing gameplay and a good story

Bloodborne is literally perfect KINO

And that's just 2 amazing games that blow ones mind

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>>376399457
>>376398601
>What genre, RTS? Because the only RTS this year so far has been released con consoles (Halo Wars 2).

>>376399326
This pretty much.
I hope windows overextends itself and people are smart enough to start dumping it and port all their programs to unix operating systems, but I doubt that will happen any time soon.

Honestly, most of peoples perception of "buggy computers" is just trashware installed by prebuilt computer companies like dell. Most people don't lean up their computers. I never experience crashes. Well, maybe once every 6 months or so and I do all kinds of crazy shit that you might expect to actually crash the computer.

>>376394408
> Kids? Normies that just play Call of Duty and Madden?

correct

>>376394408
I've never really thought about it but how common is it nowadays for people to have their own desktop PC?

I'm the only person in my family who has one

>>376399571
Pinnacle of pc gaming

>>376399525
GGXrd got a better PvP than Bloodborne though, and probably less input lag than on console

>>376399457
PS4 = $200
XBone S = $200
Switch = $300

Maybe add $100 more if you're too stupid to find discounts

>>376399506
A PC worth a shit is going to be more valuable than consoles.

A PC that can only run games like consoles do isn't worth shit.

>>376398961
Really? go yell "Heil Hitler" or "The holocause never happened!" in the streets and see what happens.

>>376399506
You don't need a display to play console games.

Also there is no paywall for online console games.

>>376399507
the latter anon

>>376399525
Yes, some of the survival games. Most of them are garbage but a few aren't.

Also, starsector.

The way your post is worded almost seems like sarcasm though. Like bloodbourne is a good game but it doesn't exactly push the boundary in any meaningful way. It's just perfecting an already well understood game type. Nothing wrong with that though.

As of the last of us, it's the most average game I've ever played in my life and I don't see what's so good about the story. I guess it has emotions or some shit.

>>376399627
If thats how you feel then sure.

>>376399397

I agree that I haven't touched my Xbone or PS4 in months because the games on it are fucking boring, but when the consoles have been on sale and there's something I was mildly interested in playing, I got the consoles.

but again, you're narrowing my point down to your specific circumstances, and I don't know you (well, I do know that you're a faggot) nor am i trying to make an argument about you specifically. I'm saying that most people on /v/ are having a dick measuring contest of consoles vs PC because they're poorfags and have to justify why they can't have both in a reason other than they're poor

>>376399645
>PS4 = $200
$300 MSRP for the slim
>XBone S = $200
Again $300 MSRP

If you're counting discounts then I got a gaming PC with $600 parts for $200.

Everyone can be a pc gaming because everyone has a PC.

>>376394601
>gamer girl
>not a huge red flag
I keep my videogaming hobby as a secret to females

>Lan party
You don't need a split screen to play FIFA/PES
Or Mortal Combat

>>376399759
You make a good point
After I started making money I got a ps4

>>376399759
Maybe I don't like wasting money and want to offer my dissenting economic vote?

You're literally arguing for being an impulsive buyer with no self control. I don't like the things consoles do and only like a few of the things they have. Why would I waste my time and money on them? I could buy scientific equipment with that money instead.

>>376394408
>Playing Viktor

I shiggy diggy

Anyone else sick of singleplayer games and just pour hundreds of hours into a competitive game you picked?

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>>376398779
>Overshit player
Such gamer woow

>>376399286
Last of us is more story driven so watching it on youtube is the same, i will give you yakuza 0 and since pc had no animal 3rd person action game i will also give you r and c.
Infamous is a open world superhero game yes? Pc has those.

>>376399948
I can sort of relate

I like really polished, linear, tight singleplayer games and can't stand aimless open world games but most of time playing games is in multiplayer games like tf2

When I just want to sit down and have some fun it's a multiplayer game unless I specifically have something in mind

Games for Windows Live is a fucking horrible experience. I'd rather just play all the Xbone games on the Xbone desu

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>>376399506

>PC worth a shit is at least $800
>total price: $343.21
>add $10 keyboard/mouse

again, i made the point in my post above that you can use a TV, but again you have to buy a TV to have a console so that argument is fucking retarded

>>376394408
>What is the point of consoles in 2017?
• Better games
• Actual advancement of the industry
• Real controllers
• No MOBAshit
Consoles are the promised land my man. Drop the LeL and Skyrim sex mods and join the rest of humanity.

>>376394408
The point of consoles? Well, for me i bought a ps4 pro for the exclusives and multiplats because my PC was getting old and I didn't feel like upgrading it, and also fuck the 343 for ruining the halo series. I had 1000s of hours in halo 2 and 3 but 4 was so trash i skipped 5. Game sharing is also pretty great, I don't have to buy any CoD games or any digitally games my friend owns. He's soon going to be buying prey and I can't wait to play that, although i still need to fucking finish P5 and horizon.

>>376400354
I think you can get a 750 Ti second hand or even new for about that same price and it's still a beast of a card

>>376398961
What about the south park game? I think it was stick of truth or the swastikas in wolfenstein?

>>376400237
>Last of us is more story driven so watching it on youtube is the same

Unbelievable
It's story focused why?
Because it has cutscenes?
Like every other game?

The gameplay in the last of us is amazing, I reply it once in a while

>>376400354
The thing about you master race morons is that not everyone lives in your fucking country

Prices for PC parts are super high in some places

>>376400369
How is Horizon?

There hasn't been any console exclusive this generation that made me think it was actually benefitting from being on that console
Just pour money into the developer and you would get the same result on PC

>>376400629
It's a decent game with fun robotic monsters to hunt and exploring some places for the first time was fun but it also has alot of flaws like the world being pretty empty and the combat could use some work. Also the MC talks way to fucking much, it's annoying

>>376399896

here we go again with the poorfag logic, dude. you're implying that because it doesn't have something you like, that means it's inferior to what you already have, which is confirmation bias bullshit and exactly what i'm shitting on you for.

>maybe i don't like wasting money and want to offer my dissenting economic vote
if you don't want to buy something because it has nothing valuable to offer you, that's fine. that is a valid statement. but to say that you don't buy it because you want to make a statement is fucking retarded and your statement is heard by nobody.

>you're literally arguing for being an impulsive buyer with no self-control
i buy a console because the marginal benefit of playing games there that i don't have on PC is outweighed by the cost of the console. that's not impulsive, i just make more money than you and i'll sink $400 into something i sort of feel like doing.

>why would i waste my time and money on console gaming?
why are you wasting your time on /v/ arguing why PCs are better than consoles?

>i could buy scientific equipment with that money instead
so you're both poor and autistic. are you chris-chan?

>>376400581
Because the gameplay isnt that different from any 3rd person action game with alot of pushing boxes and carrying ladders around just to see the next cutscenes and to see how the characters react with eachother since thats the main drive of the game.
Im not saying its a bad game, i loved it.
But the gameplay takes a back seat to the story that is far superior.

>>376399885

yeah, dude. exactly this. up until all of my friends were adults and got jobs, we used to always shit on our one friend who got a PS3 after we all had gotten xboxes because he "liked the games" or some gay shit like that. fast forward however many years later and we have both and nobody gives a fuck about which one is better or not

>>376394408
FUN FACT: casual players and mobile games drive the games industry.

https://venturebeat.com/2016/12/21/worldwide-game-industry-hits-91-billion-in-revenues-in-2016-with-mobile-the-clear-leader/

>>376401009
>But the gameplay takes a back seat to the story that is far superior.

No it doesn't
Gameplay first is how the last of us was made
Fucking play the game before talking about it

You're the reason why this board is bullshit
People talk about games they never even played

>>376394601

>Lan party
>2017

Is this a joke because i ddidnt see a Lan party since 2008

>>376400430

yeah, i didn't even want to open up the pandora's box of used stuff, because you can go on other sites and buy WAAAAY better shit for cheap. my buddy recently bought a 1070 for like less than $300 from some dude who was upgrading to a 1080 Ti and a 7700k from someone else for probably $250. 7700k was a mistake though because you basically have to delid them to make them not run as hot as the surface of the sun. there's like hundreds of youtube videos about "console-killer builds" where they build a comparable machine for cheap, both ones using used parts and ones using new ones.

>>376394408
Fifa 17 sold 11 million copies on ps4, 400k on pc.

GTAv sold 15 million copies on ps4, 1.3m on pc.

>>376395460
Guess that's why they added the share button. :^)

>>376400581

first off, do eurofags even matter?
second, that pc is 350 GBP on pcpartpicker UK

>>376394474
when i was 10 years old i would have agreed, none of my friends now want to come over so we can take turns on the fotm console game when we can all play together online wiht a hoard of different PC titles to choose from

>>376401124
Uncharted has way more gameplay than last of us.
Last of us what do you do? Stealth, push a block sometimes shoot a few humans?
Its passable.
There are no set pieces theres nothing that changes up the gameplay but like i said thats fine since the story and characters are great.
Ultimately one does not have to buy a ps4 just for this game since a youtube playthrough will sufice.
Ratchet and clank is more of a ps4 system seller than last of us.

>>376401407
If you played the game you wouldn't be saying any of that
So why are you?
Oh yea, that's how /v/ is
Fucking fag, go play the game before reviewing it

>>376401187
Steam spy lists GTA V as having over 6 million owners on steam

>>376401474
I don't think that repeating same sentence over and over again is worth your time.
Here's another (you), now go be a faggot somewhere else.

>>376401592
You keep shitposting about good games ok buddy?

>>376401474
Lol you seem so upset, i do own a ps4 and i have played all ps4 exclusives.
But im well off enough i can throw away my money on color coded pc parts too, juat trying to warn the average consumer that pc is ultimately the superior choice if you have to chose.

>>376401636
Because I care what you own and don't own?

Considering everything that's been talked about in the thread so far, which is the best setup for a postgrad student? Laptop+nintendo switch or a great gaming pc? Which would save me the most money?

>>376401756
You probably want a laptop if your lab/place of work isn't getting you one, they're kind of necessary for work

>>376401747
Dont know if you care or not, just saying that the last of us isnt a good "game" to defend the playstation with.
You have to use something better, im not angry at you or anything I legitimately feel bad for people that only game on consoles.

>>376395517

Lmao, anti-Steam GoG-cucks crack me up. Can I buy DaS3 on GoG? No. Can I buy NieR:Automata on GoG? No. Fuck GoG, Steam 4 life.

>>376401885
Last of us is a great game, while PC has zero
Go figure what's better

>>376401883
This + any used last generation console.

Cyborg here. This is something that is very hard to picture for PC men, because on the surface it makes no sense: There is still a very present idea that PC's are super technical, easily-broken work machines, and that consoles are normalized, streamlined devices with one very pure purpose.

I know there's tons of ways to logically refute that, like I said, the reasoning is somewhat ILLOGICAL. If anything, this demonstrates the audiences better than any infograph could. PC users see flexibility and control in their choice of system, while seeing consoles as strange contraptions that seemingly only offer barriers and restrictions for MORE money. Console users welcome these restrictions because for us, it feels more akin to simplicity. In PC terms, the "quickstart" to playing games, and PC's being overly complex and unassociated with our hobby.

>>376401756
Whichever has the most games you like?
I dunno what your budget is, or tastes so we can't really answer you that well.
But in my personal experience, I don't really touch Nintendo stuff for the solo experience aside for a few series like FE.
So if you are as friendless as me post grad, I would go PC.

>>376401994
What are
>RTS and strategy games
>MMOs
>esports games
That's not discounting the fact that most AAA games being released are multiplat anyway, so it makes no fucking sense for people to say that PC has no games or no worthwhile exclusives. This is just fucking stupid.

>>376402091
Even though a pc is built on social online games?
>>376401756
Go with a pc and switch, but like the other anon said if you need a laptop you might want to get that instead of a desktop.

>>376402210
>RTS and strategy games
shit
>MMOs
shit
>esports games
hahahahahahah

>>376402210
You have to know when you are being plainly trolled.

>>376401756
Work laptop.

>>376402341
t. cod fag

>>376394474
Used to be, these days only Nintendo offer split screen play

>>376402087
Somewhat this. When I was in college and had a lot of free time, I built gaming PCs and despise consoles.

Now that I got a job and my free time becomes more valuable, I despise PC with all its troubles and woes that comes with its customisability and flexibility. When you only have 4 hours of free time every night, something as simple as upgrading a GPU or replacing a RAM stick went bad becomes a major pain in the ass. A hard disk failure means losing 2 nights of playing games recovering from the latest backup, then reinstalling whatever didn't make it to the backup.

With the amount of money I usually spend building a gaming PC, I can get 2 PS4s. If my primary ps4 breaks, I'll plug in the second one, and start gaming in less than an hour, while I send my broken ps4 for repair the next day.

Sony did many things right with the PS4. It offered me all the convenience I wanted. I wish PCs can do PS4 level suspend-resume. Also, PS4's ability to download games / updates while in sleep mode.

I still have my last gaming PC built around 2012. I haven't turned it on for months. All my PC needs are done from a throwaway Win10 tablet that I bought for cheap, so if it's broken, I won't hesitate to throw it away.

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>>376398949
>Just stfu if you don't know what you're talking about.
>Are you seriously implying that games on release don't cost just as much as on console?

The fact that the second statement preceded the first is just fucking kek.

I'm not even that guy, ( you didn't respond to him either because you know you're wrong )
>>376399023
but literally consider killing yourself.

I play FIghting games so I play on console since thats where the communities are. I also like the exclusives, don't care for 60 fps in anything thats not a fighting game.

>>376394408
You under estimate the power of laziness. People buy console plug it in, and it works. Simple. Period, if you can't understand that, then that's your problem. Its a simple answer. There are PCs, that can do that. They do all kinds of other stuff, you have to install steam, install discord, install all this other stuff. WHen you install you have to go find where you installed it to, then you have to click on it and log in

You need extraneous other programs that you need to install and load up. Its literally not as simple. And people value simplicity over everything else, and your a faggot if you can't understand such a simple concept.

You can say that they are stupid, and they should put in the work, and you may be right, but they won't its that - simple, and there's LITERALLY OBJECTIVELY nothing you can do to change that :3

>people like being able to pop a CD in knowing it will work
https://youtu.be/Cb-srOfRqNc

>>376404798
That guy does that for every console
It's how he makes money
Clickbait and spreading misinformation