ITT: >think of an online game >check if it still exists

Game is still the superior moba

Rip in peace chipper you where to good for this world

Tfw no one remembers HoN

>>376386407
It's not fair

It was their moment, thier turn. Not Riot or Gaben's

>>376386407
They fucked up the moment they started charging money instead of staying f2p

Wow, Poxnora still exists.

I played this shit ages ago when it was new, I probably wouldn't even know where to start anymore.

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>>376385580
>Sherwood Dungeon

Yep, still there.

>>376386630
How is it not f2p?

>Do the best MOBA of all
>Perfect netcoding, interesting unique heroes, faster paced DOTA, a true sequel instead of a remake
>The devs know what they're doing for real, but Maliken, the boss, is a douchebag and a suit
>FUCK IT UP with the most imbecile decisions taken
>never got to shine as hard as LoL
>Leave it to do Strife, a LoL chinese mockup
>Sell HoN to Frostburn Studios, literal whos
>S2Games fails again with Strife
>HoN is still kicking and a viable business because it's just good
>Maliken badmouths the community once again

HoN I cry for thee

>>376386782
not him but I was in the beta. they announced the full game was going to be $30 with no kind of trial. I never bought it because that was retarded. LoL got the pricing model right, and crushed them.

>>376386782
>HoN
HoN wasn't free until just shortly before DotA2 if I recall.

>>376386782
>The game was released on May 12, 2010, and re-released as a free-to-play game on July 29, 2011.
That's the moment everyone quit and LoL won

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>Star Wars Galaxies
Nope, still gone

>>376386972
>LoL got the right pricing model.
Fuck no it didn't.
Locking heroes is god damn stupid, but if a company feels it must, Smite probably has the best deal. Pay a box, get them all future and current, plus some skin moneys weekly/monthly or whatever.

Business practices killed the game. If S2 had just advertised the game like LoL, they could've dominated the scene and pushed out LoL.

>>376387098
S2 followed that business model later on in HoN's life, too, because they got crushed.

The pricetag kept the population low and killed HoN's chance at domination. If HoN was using the DotA2 system from the start, like it is now, it would've dominated.

>>376387098
>Fuck no it didn't.
Clearly they did if they're rolling in the fucking dosh.

What fucked HoN harder than B2P, or S2, was the god damn hue hues.

Fond of the game though, was my first DotA-Like, save DotA itself in WC3 as a wee lad.

HoN heroes are easily the best in the series
>Chipper
>Deadwood
>Electrician
>Bombardier
>Maliken

There's no competition. Those are some of the best designed playable characters in any MOBA/ARTS.

>>376387098

Godpack for Smite was unironically the best vidya game investment I've ever made

>>376387240
From a money made stand-point, especially considering the year, yeah you're right.

I was just voicing my dislike for hero locking, ignore me.

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>>376386972
>tfw I paid 30$ and have every hero in hon forever along with some other perks.

Looking back it was the right choice, consumers are faggots though and gargled riots semen because f2p, when S2 tried to go f2p to compete it just wasn't enough.

game is full of BR and russkies but it's still good

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Monday Night Combat. I dont even need to check

>>376387406
I never got the appeal of the game.

Few others did too, apparently.

>>376387406
I remember enjoying SMNC too.

RIP

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>>376387406
Ouch. Forgot about that game.

>>376387406
http://steamcharts.com/app/63200

>>376387516
Hey guy, fuck you.
;_;

One day the private server won't suck balls.

>>376387516
RoR is decent.

>>376387395
Poor people make up a large percentage of any consumer base, unless it's for yachts or private jets.

Plus, being F2P pretty much served as a demo. There's no barrier to entry. S2 offered no such demo, other than the Open Beta. So that, right off the bat, limited their potential consumer base.

>>376387582
>all time peak only 51 players
That can't be right. While I was never a huge fan of the game, I did play it some and I can't ever remembering having issues getting into a match.

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>>376385580
>Tribes:Ascend
It still hurts

>>376387305
>Puppet Master
>Nomad
> Even Silhouette after they toned her down

>>376387686
I think it's because the game is older than the site

>>376387729
I still weep for Tribes and HoN both

No other shooter will come close
No other dota clone will come close

>>376387781
That's probably it. I had no idea that shit came out 6 years ago. It doesn't seem that long ago.

Club penguin
Dead

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>>376387780
Puppet Master was great, too. Those fucking guaranteed crits with whiplash lead to some stupid horseshit, especially with the puppet.

>tfw playing Zephyr
>tfw reflect Puppet Master's whiplash and take him down to 19/20's health left

>>376385580
The only good thing that came out of that game was deadwood and zephyr

>>376386868
>>Maliken badmouths the community once again

Can you post a link to this please? I want to see his tears

Holy hell I remember playing this about 20+ years ago
Did not think for a second that its still around.

https://www.starkingdoms.com/

>>376387940
Fuck you, I still miss Taunts in every single competitive game that I play. Smackdowns and Humiliations were fucking great.

>>376387982
>you'll never see something like the dumpster taunt again because kiddies and fags would get triggered and cry on reddit

The fact that they removed gg ez from Overwatch and Sorry from Sadstone is laughably stupid.

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>>376387982
I picked up The Culling when they added in taunts. It doesn't give you smackdowns or anything, you can just taunt the fuck out of enemies

>>376388097
>they changed the dumpster one and now it sounds dumb as fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC4j4U7K6mc

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Nope.

And I'm still fucking mad at Fatshark for going "we want cawadoody audience" by dumbing the game down to War of the Vikings.

>>376388245
poor man's mountain blade

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Anyone miss Pirates, Vikings, and Knights?
Also Battlegrounds 2...
:(

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:n:

>>376387940
HoN did a lot of things right, mostly pertaining to hero design, because their business decisions were straight garbage.

>Reworked Axe's W and made Staff reset all of his cooldowns if he got a kill with it
>Rampage is a far more fun and balanced version of Spirit Breaker
>Slither is Venomancer, but good
>Voodoo Jester's W makes him much more fun than Witch Doctor because he's both an effective healer and ganker at the same time
>The speed differences made Bubbles much more fast paced and interesting than Puck
>Everything about Pharaoh compared to Clockwerk
>Not to mention the GOAT early S2 heroes like Madman, The Dark Lady, Deadwood, Chipper, Bombardier, Electrician, Maliken, Zephyr, Nymphora, Fayde, Puppet Master, Gauntlet, Kraken, and Moraxus
Oh man, if only I could go back.

The game would've been more popular if it had even 1/100th of the amount of porn that LoL has.

>>376388179
Man, Grave Keeper was so fun to play. Makes me miss HoN. Almost.

>>376388470
ouch anon too soon

>>376388445
No not really, apart from the lack of singleplayer there was a complex armour system where you had to work your sword into the chinks of armour before they gutted it, crossbows had active reloading making it a risk vs reward factor when considering reloading the crossbow and hitting people with axes and hammers meant that you had to actually contact them with the head instead of Mount and Blade where you can be skullfucking the enemy but still hit them with the handle of the hammer doing full damage.

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>>376386407
they were good fucking times lad

Tactical Ops. Community small af, game buggy and it is no longer sold. Was as my first real MP exprience

>>376388483
>Parasite
>Tremble
>Tundra
>Nomad
>Gauntlet
>
So much good fun designs

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>Dragonica

Seems it died and then got revived as Dragon Saga. It was fun playing this with /v/ back when it released.

Was a pretty alright game.

>>376388824
Holy shit that meta Legion team. Hellbourne is screwed

>>376388483
Now that Dota can finally work on making original heros, I really hope they get some "inspiration" from HON heroes. However given what a shitshow Monkey King was, I'm not too hopeful.

Just checked up on Savage. Made by the devs behind Heroes of Newerth. Found out that there was a remake of the 2003 original game last year, and it has abysmal reviews.

What the fuck happened to S2? They were doing so well there last decade, and now they're shite?

HoN is just UNdead

I think it could resurge if it got into Steam but I think they can't make it into the platform because DOTA2 team members are the same that were in HoN and something something hurt feelings.

>HoN is better than DOTA2 and this is not a troll shitpost

desu, now that dota's changed into the retarded abomination we have today, now's a good time for s2 to turn hon into dota 6.70.

>>376389129
They captured lightning in a bottle with Savage, and HoN was pretty well timed with a clone that was slightly different enough.
>>376389216
>>376389204
I fucking wish. HoN coming back would be huge for me, DotA's been dead since 6.88 MINIMUM

>>376389204
I think any moba competitor is screwed with Valve controlling that distribution platform

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Sequel NEVER. Not that I trust HiRez with anything these days...but I thought it was fun.

Reading around it seems it hit a point where you had to submit a support ticket and they would put the servers up for a few days to let you play. What the fuck?

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>>376385580

>Join random room
>2nd person besides host
>We shoot the shit
>Switches me to his team
>His buddies join
>They're all fucking amazingly good
>Like holy fuck I never saw him lose mid as Puppet Master
>They carry the fuck out of me to 6.7k then just stop playing
>Other friends want to play
>Say no because I don't want to go low in rankings

And that's when I stopped playing HoN. Gotta say though. That community was horrible.

>>376387646
I guess, I mean I played the open beta before I bought so I knew how good it was. But seriously 30$ for what they offered was more than reasonable. Most people who play league even casually have spent that much on skins at this point.

>>376389272
Yeah, but how did I a) not know about the revival of one of the best early 2000's online games, and b) never hear about its downfall?

Savage was THE SHIT back in the day. If I wasn't playing Runescape or BOTs, I was playing Savage. Looking at Savage: Resurrection, it has 19% positive reviews on Steam. That's just astonishing.

>>376389373
it was really stupid and shortsighted on their part. there was no way they were going to be able to keep making free heroes/updates, while only charging an up front price of $30 for the game.

dota's model wound up being the best, but i doutb anyone would've been able to conceive of it back then. dota's business model seemed pretty questionable even back in 2011.

>>376389351
Bad communities are minimum for online games. HoN's community wasn't even that bad most of the time, they just didnt hold back if you were a fucking shitter because unlike it's competition, HoN didn't ban for telling you you were a goddamn shitter

>>376389438
Some eceleb streamer streamed it a couple days before it came out, and I remember telling myself I'd wait a month before a got it. Then it just... went away.

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>bought the $200 lifetime sub

and that's why I haven't pre-ordered a game ever since

>>376389470
smackdowns and moonmeander's chat spamming didn't help either. s2 should've just removed all-chat and hidden stats.

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>>376389545

>>376389570
You are just everything wrong with online gaming today. Fuck right off. If you can't handle some bad words on the internet, pull your ethernet cable and shove it up your ass instead.

>>376387516
>only 2 factions
>Order classes are more superior to Destruction
>Order steamrolled Destruction in RvR

>>376389451
>>376389373
>>376387646
It was something that simply wasn't done before, being F2P and all

S2 Games bet was that given how huge DOTA was and how "cheap" the game was being sold initially it would help them boost the sales, and LoL was... shit.

LoL was FREE though. And kinda fun, below all that SHIT EVERYTHING it had on release. People doesn't remember how truly and for real shit it was.

But HoN had something that LoL didn't had, other than a price tag: entry barrier and a super toxic community. If HoN was made F2P from the beginning and sold cosmetics we wouldn't have LoL the monster they kept developing today because HoN was right off the bat, and still is, superior in engine and heroes to LoL even with Tencent behind. It was just good from the start.

But S2 Games were very shortsighted. Still it's playable and fun, it's just not as big.

>>376389373
>>376389451
HoN's main failure was lack of outreach. If you're not constantly getting newblood to join your game, you're going to frustrate anyone who doesn't have the time or dedication to go professional with it.

It's how most of the games in this thread died. The playerbase just wasn't big enough to start growing on its own. LoL, DotA2, and, let's say, Overwatch all had big communities to start with, and they keep attracting in more players, which means more fanart, which means more people interested in the game, which means more players.

Basically, you can tell if an online game is going to be successful by the amount of fanart (porn) it gets.

>>376388769
>idiots leave their visors open to see
>run around poking people in the face to death

>>376389713
It's not about being thin-skinned. It's about growing a community.

HoN's population remained stagnant at around 25k before DotA, and utterly collapsed afterwards. You're not going to grow your population in a competitive game by encouraging your players to be hostile to their teammates/opponents.

>>376389756
>Basically, you can tell if an online game is going to be successful by the amount of fanart (porn) it gets.

I think you can make a thesis about this

>The Critical Mass of Porn and the Success of Businesses

>>376387406
I remember being so hyped for the PC version. Fuck SMNC.

>>376389891
There was nothing that encouraged it, that's how online communities are when you don't have developers providing pillows to soften everyone and cry in. WC3 dota was the exact same way.

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>>376389713

>New at game
>Get shit talked into oblivion in first match
>Try again thinking it was just that one game
>Happens again
>Stop playing game

Why would anyone continue playing at that point?

>>376389754
The F2P system was actually used before that for quite some time. MMOs in particular used it because they couldn't compete with WoW, so charging money upfront was suicide.

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>Pangya

>>376389870
I like you friend

>Tfw a knight charges me when I'm an archer
>Shank their eyes with my dagger
>Execute them with the peasant face

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Yup, still dead.

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For somehow who is unaware

Could anyone wrap up what exactly happened in HoN?

>>376389316
i fapped to the females in that game so many times

>>376390089
>Hon comes out, is frankly the real dota 2, competes just fine with League
>Dota 2 is announced
>Panic in the streets
> S2 makes the game f2p, copies League's 2 week hero release schedule and makes people grind/pay for heroes again
>The game is an unbalanced mess for months as a result
>The game dies
>They release HON 2.0 which makes the game even more like League
>The game dies further

I didn't play after 2.0, can't tell you what happened

>>376389908
You probably could. Hell, there's something to be said about games that suddenly become popular because of porn. Guys think with their dicks, so the way you get a lot of guys in one place is the promise of giving them a boner.

That might be why games with more conventionally attractive characters do better than games with few attractive characters. Nier Automata wouldn't be half as popular if not for 2B. Overwatch wouldn't be a cultural icon of gaming if not for Tracer, Widow Maker, Mercy, and D.Va. WoW wouldn't have gotten anywhere near as popular if not for the female characters.

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The last thing I checked before it was closed was that they killed off Morpheus.

>>376390178
>release strife
>it's more casual league
>s2 goes under shortly afterwards

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This is why you add single player campaigns dammit!

Servers don't last forever

I haven't played gunbound since ~2004

Is it still kicking?

>>376389891
HoN at least had a censor feature. I might think you're right if not for the popularity of CoD, DayZ, and etc.

>>376390089
>>376386868

Huh, Atlantica Online still exists. Probably should take a look back one of these days.

>>376390268
S2 hasn't gone under, actually. They released a new game only half a year ago. And it already went F2P and has ~20% positive reviews on Steam.

>>376390268
>>376390368
These mentions of S2 reminds me of S4 league.
It still hurts ;_;

>>376388483
>Mentions all those heroes and not Balphagore, the realest nigga

I loved how everyone thought he was garbage for the longest time. Meanwhile I was microing his minions in jungle while soloing bot, slurping up corpses, belching blood on bitches, and drinking from my chalice of tears. Then you tank up to unbelievable levels, just harass in team fights and help your team mates survive, then shit out a nuke.

>>376390058
Why do you remind me
Even worse, the devs are now trying to have it's corpse hold up a new game that removes just about everything good.

>>376388951
B-but those heroes are actually fun to play anon

maybe not so fun when on the receiving end, but if enemy has gauntlet, that's the reason you'll be nomad.

>>376390473
He WAS shit until all the AoE got nerfed to reasonable levels. Once you wouldn't have any given team capable of clearing Balphagore's minions, and thus making him harmless, he rose to power.

I remember distinctly that Zephyr's huge nerf led to the rise of Balphagore.

>>376390510
I wasn't being sarcastic my man

Those are my favorites

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>>376390178
>competes just fine with League
Man, do you people even listen to yourselves? HoN wasn't popular even when it was "popular". It always looked like brown and bloom shit, it had a virulently obnoxious community that spent half the time shitting on new players and the other half shitting on league, it had a price tag and their first big tournament was held in a poorly lit basketball court and got a maximum of 10k viewers. Not to mention that Maliken and the devs were massive assholes and not only were outright hostile to the community, they also did that hugely kiky thing of reducing the price of the game for a week before making it go f2p just cause they wanted a quick buck. It never had any chance.

>inb4 b-b-b-b-but it was good

Clearly it wasn't if the gameplay didn't outshine everything else.

>>376388449
The ONLY three-team ctf game I have ever seen, highly asymmetric at that, and it was excellent.

>>376390473
>tfw I played characters like Balphagore, Nomad, Flint, Moraxus and few others only because of their cool voice lines when ulting but ended up loving playing them
HELL ON NEWERTH

>Playing Parasite
>Clearing the Jungle fast as fuck
>Using the body of a minion to gank the enemy lane and his abilities
>Infiltrate an unsuspecting enemy lane with a little one and the BAM I'M THE FUCKING XENOMORPH

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Did this survived?
no it dint

>>376390691
Isn't the sequel still being worked on

>Fuckley designed one of my favorite heroes

I don't know how to feel about that

Cthulhuphant is an awesome tank/ganker concept and the voicelines kick ass

TAKE SOLACE THAT EVEN IN DEATH, YOU WON'T BE ALONE FOR TOO LONG

>>376390639
>It wasnt popular
>Then instantly goes into spouting the same meme opinions people tried in 2009

It was big enough to sustain it's community and it's esport scene without having to force the developers to pump millions of dollars into it for several years for anyone to even be remotely interesting in competing it it. The basketball tournament was not even close to it's first one, considering that happened well after the game was already dead.

Also, the gameplay easily outshined every negative about that game, and were it better managed, it would still be alive and well today.

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It still hurts.

>>376390865
Yeah, and one of the other designs in the B^Uckley contest became Shadow Blade, and he was legitimately a better designed Morphling.

HoN, if nothing else, had the best hero designs in the entire genre. Both on an aesthetic and gameplay level.

>>376390214
That reminds me I have to draw some porn but can't get inspiration or a character interesting enough right now.

>>376390919
I kind of liked it.

>>376391041
Given the thread theme, draw some porn of a dead game.

>>376387686
Steam didn't release specific information for transparency until after MNC was long gone.

No separate site or even the main API for steam would have actual player numbers for anything before 2012 or around then.

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>>376390904
Unlike you, I was alive when the game came first came out and people were spamming invites on every *chan because they thought it was the dota successor. After the initial few weeks, there was only about one thread every 3 months going "w-w-why are you p-p-playing l-lol when t-this is s-s-superior" and every forum post "lmao fuck lol and riot we are so much better". I also had one retard friend who kept harking it (he was the asshole of the group, go figure) and I finally decided to play with him when it went free for a week and I found it to be ugly, clunky and the gameplay to be inferior to fucking dota allstars. I'm really glad dota 2 killed it because you delusional niggers would've plagued this site for years if it didn't.

Did anyone here play Wrath of Heroes that Warhammer Fantasy Arena game?

It was pretty fun.

>>376387406
Had a lot of fun playing splitscreen on Xbox when it released. Couldn't get into SMNC.

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Both MAG and Chromehounds of the seventh gen era need replacement games.

Really the only online games I can think of that there are not alternatives of. At least of games I played that I liked. I have tried lots of games that are meant to be similar but nothing is even close. MAG had large combat and team based squads down perfect. Chromehounds had squad based mech building and online map conquest pretty much exactly how it should be.

>>376391315
>The game wasnt popular because it wasn't posted on my favorite forums!

You played the game exactly one time and you come into this thread to tell people who clearly played it for years that it was bad. Lol, go fuck yourself dude. I know that you realize how stupid you sound because you had to open your post with some question of my age, when I can almost guarantee I'm older than your high school ass.

>>376386407
I remember the shilling on /v/

>>376385580
I love this fucking game. I should play a match for the old times.

>>376390089
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j1BQ7XFjLw

>>376391315
>Clunky compared to Allstars
Now I know you're making shit up. HoN was smoother than fucking Dota 2, much less WC3 Dota. Every character had fully assignable hotkeys across the board, unlike WC3 Dota's unique hotkeys per character (leading to shit like Alt QQ Invokers leaving games).

It was literally better than WC3 Dota in every way outside of size of roster (which eventually boiled down to Icefraud being the issue behind no more ports because he fucked off and decided to do Dota 2 despite HoN being a far better successor).

And while Maliken was a notorious rager in game, he's a chill guy outside of it. I mean christ, he funded that company out of pocket. Shawn, idejder, and nigma were nothing but kind from the interactions I had with them in the IRC.

>>376391497
I wanted to stop watching 25 second but I couldn't, what did I fucking watch

PORT DEADWOOD TO DOTA 2 ICEFROG

PLEASE
I AM LITERALLY BEGGING YOU
I AM SURE YOU DESIGNED HIM ANYWAY

>>376391497
This is not a cringe thread

Not a feels thread either

Because that shit is so sad. S2 fucked up so big.

>I HAVE AN ELECTRIC PERSONALITY
5 sec long stun with dealing 750 dmg combo on a 15 second cd was amazing.

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>>376391497

>>376391716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7B94ylv69A

>>376387098
Smite godpack is literally the only time I've ever spent money on a f2p game. And that's because it was actually a good as fuck deal and the game used to be fun. Plus I got it for only 10 dollars on ebay.

>>376391739
>That Armadon death sound
God I miss HoN.

>>376386407
Zephyr bro here. Hon was cool for a while but the devs went full retard

>>376391469
Im not that faggot, nor any faggot that plays MOBAs. But face it, HoN was a junk game that couldn't compete with the competition.

>>376391992
You have an entire thread of people here who loved the game for the game itself, which suffered at the hands of an incompetent studio.

>>376391992
>Couldn't compete
With what? Dota 2 took years to get off the ground, and it makes no sense that S2 Games would ever have the funds necessary to build up HoN to the same degree.

HoN was pretty much king of ARTS until after the 3.0 patch when things started to dwindle.

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http://www.sherwooddungeon.com/play.html

Still going.

>>376386868
>>376387965
>>376390089

Not even Malikens porn money could save S2

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Good night sweet prince

Did HoN make too many skins?

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I wish I could've leveled in this more. Different, atmospheric as fuck game. There's one of my favorite taverns ever in vidya in there, gone forever.

>>376392369
HoN certainly made a lot of bad skins that made it difficult to tell who was who if you were gone for a few months

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>>376392462
same applies to HoTS

>>376392369
Yeah, but it also had the best in game currency system out of all the competitors, so if you grinded hard enough you didn't need to spend any real money.

>>376391497
the end of this tournament where milk fat yells out "we fucking did it" live on stream was golden, such low production/professionalism value but still fun to watch

Im just stopping by to say that HoN engine (not sure about the name), being pretty much a polished carbon copy of W3 eng, is up to this day the best possible engine for any MOBA, greatly shitting on LoL's, or Source 2.
HoN was the first to do "vector skills" with the chipper ultimate, and soon it was copied to LoL (not sure if to dota 2, but i guess so).
On a technical and creative side, HoN was extremely better than any competitors. It was meh on balance, specially on the pro level(i remember people being super butthurt about silhouette having a super high skill cap), and completely sucked at marketing.
As a gift, i leave you with the OP as shit early engineer, which consisted of a killing machine with a hero attached:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqNBaQZ44Kk
The only stronger hero was agi sucking chronos during the closed beta.

>>376392617
Since it's in your video and you didn't mention it, their replay system was also amazing for it's time, and is still better than any of it's competitors

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>>376385580
Improbable Island still exists.

Some other old HoN videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ2KdQJpRTc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsaoYT6eCuE (highlights to the one hit annihilation crit)

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>play this with /v/ when it came out
>it's fucking gone

>>376392692
This, the replay saved every detail and was what,15mb each?

>>376392786
Fuck. I actually had more fun on that than on old Maplestory.

I still play HoN once a while, only midwars / blitz wars though.
Shadowblade is broken full str when you start breaking the 200str/7k HP mark

>>376390020
Is it gone anon? I havent heard of the game in a long...long time

>HoN was my second favorite multiplayer game ever
>Got fucked up by the competition
>My first favorite game, Zombie panic source slowly died too.
I mean, all the remaining players of zps in the world still reunite in a EU server, so we get a full server once a while, but it isnt the same.

>>376392893
Me too

Plus those black NPCs were top lel

>>376391641
>unlike WC3 Dota's unique hotkeys per character

Except built-in CustomKeys.txt from WC3 worked fine on Allstars.
Just admit you fucked up and chose the wrong game.

>>376390751
Holy shit anon i was thinking about this game a month ago but couldnt remember the name. Thanks

>>376390821
If referring to pirates, vikings, and knights 2. They are still devloping it to my knowledge.
And iirc plans included a new class to vikings that focused on range and every team getting a healer at some point.

>>376392057
>HoN was pretty much king of ARTS

Except it never was.

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the game which spawned the cookie cutter korean grindfests we all know and love today

>tfw you will never stand in the desert for hours trying to get the crystal key from the woopie king

>>376390178
I started playing HoN in 2012, agter 2.0 was implemented. This is more or less what happened.
>Comunity won't stop telling everybody that they are going to switch to dota2.
>Dota2 gets released, players leave accusing s2 of bad balance (true but over exaggerated).
>s2 makes the game, in their words, free to own. Paid accounts justs get a permanent +2 silver per game (the bonus still remains). Everyone gets all the heroes for free. Forum becomes a shithole that won't shut up about s2 being trash.
>Op preda, op solstice, basketball court, leaving for dota2/lol threads won't stop.
>Midwars gets released. HoN 3.0 gets released with big graphic changes.
>HoN 3.1 and 3.2 are the updates that bring a lot of balance and gameplay changes. Some people begin accusing the game of getting too casual.
>Suddenly Strife gets announced. It goes in for some months until we learn that HoN was in Garena's hands since arround the tine strife was announced. This explains the changes from a lot of small patches to big ones like 3.1 and 3.2 (and probably the Samuel L. Jackson announcer, the curated custom maps and the return of the latin american players, who knows).
>HoN is finally sold to Garena. Frostburn studios get announced. We are free from s2 incompetence. Forums finally stops being a shithole, but starts feeling quieter.
>Garena makes a big hontour event, but competitive scene ends up diying in the int server. Keeps growing in thailand.
>HoN 4.0 is released some months ago. It brings map changes.
Also I think today a new big patch got released. And the official Miku announcer has been in the store for some weeks, but nobody knows when it's going to disappear.

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With all the other HL2 multiplayer mods seeming to die, I'm shocked and happy Fisftul of Frags is still going strong.
Also, anyone know if a good amount of people still play goldeneye: source lately?
>>376388449
>all the maps in the game are gorgeous and filled to the brim with excellent details.
>only servers I can find with people on it is booty bay or the 2 deathmatch maps
God I somewhat hate the community.

Fact not many people know: icefrog worked for S2 before getting fired and hired by valve, which resulted in dota2.
How the fuck did s2 manage to fuck themselves up so bad.

>>376393428
Early Hon was on par to LoL (and they were the only 2 mobas besides og dota). Sure, lol might had an edge on players, but the competiton was very real, then S2 shoot itself on the foot. The lol-dota2 dynamic today was lol-hon before.
Hon could be on dota 2 place today if it played its cards right.

>>376393703
I remember 2.0
It was roughly about when valve announced the first international with prize pool around 4MI.
Of course pro hon players left for "reasons"

>>376393779
I think most people involved with HoN knew coldtoad was involved with it then suddenly dropped. Dota ports basically stopped a few months before dota 2 was announced

>>376393779
>icefrog worked for S2 before getting fired and hired by valve

All the awful heroes that were on HoN and were redesigned were the Icefrog clones of DOTA

Thing is they didn't want to evolve the game and the super boring 3 passive characters were the ones that made it into DOTA2. IIRC after they went outside S2 they released Parasite, and the rest is history.

All the fun and interesting fast paced characters were post Icefrog. DOTA2 is a remake of DOTA1 and it's just slow and boring.

>>376390919
Nosgoth was the game what I hated what they've done with an old series, but the gameplay itself was rather solid.

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>>376393940
I agree with you, but icefrog name alone carries some weight. I dunno, i cant blame s2 for EVERYTHING that went wrong. Neither i nor them nor noone expected the moba genre to blow up so high. S2 was aiming for more conservative profits

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>>376385580
hey faggot i found a better fucking game?

>>376393703
>Miku announcer
Lel. They really going all in for the gooks.
I stopped playing when they ended the war efforts quests.
When was it? Middle of last year? Cant honestly remember.
Then i saw they introduced some "paragon quests" that needed gold to start, and then some kind of seasonal ladder instead of the usual permanent mmr ladder, but havent paid attention.

>>376394323
Is that even alive? The remake on Steam is dead as sin

Urban dead still exists

don't try it it sucks btw

>>376394323
>Savage remake got trashed on steam
I didnt keep up, so no idea why. Suppose people are pissed because there is no one else playing.
S2, ONCE AGAIN, did no marketing for it. I only heard about it once here on a 10 post thread on /v/.

>>376394139
If anyone with a critical attitude played both you can definitely agree that HoN characters and pacing is much better than DOTA2 because HoN was trying to evolve and become a true DOTA sequel. But the DOTA name by itself is a brand and has recognition, and Valve knew this well. Icefrog Team wanted to remake DOTA1 anyways, so the opportunity was made in heaven for them.

With a giant like Valve behind DOTA2 it ws building hype by itself. But hype can get you only so much along the road. DOTA1 was clunky and slow because it was almost a prototype of a genre. Copypasting it just made most people realize it's not as fun as the other counterparts.

LoL on the other hand was on their own business and making what they wanted to; in their words, "a true evolution of the genre". They succeeded big time.

>>376394323
i remember our LAN center received a bunch of beta keys to test this game and we all used to play this shit.
it was fun, but lacked polish and i was the only person who ever wanted to be the commander.

>>376385580
Another one up on the list of good games ruined by incompetent devs. I swear these studios don't even hire a team for marketing or management.

>>376394419
savagexr still has people playing it i think

savage 2 and remake are fucking awful and dead though

Wow, Anarchy Online is still around. Even on Steam. Neat.

>>376385628
>moba

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servers still up

the new engine is finally out

after a fucking decade of waiting and it's just as outdated as the old one now

>>376389870
Fucking this, I played pretty soon after launch, and all me and my friend did was walk around in full plate with greatswords thrusting people in the face. We'd always be top of ladder too.

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This game had a multiplayer.

Did it ever take off?

>>376389316
REEEEEEEEEE FUCK YOU HIREZ

>>376393507
Holy shieet anon.

I moved on to this after playing ragnarok. Everyday I would just play some Lake of Tears in the background and grind away. I loved this game.

>>376394950
yes i played a fuck ton of that in like 2008 or whatever

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>>376394834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBqYdCGaNEw

>>376395154
>2008
I remember looking at that in like 2003 and not finding a single server.

>>376389715
>engineer basically does everything a chaos mage can
>1on1, he'd still fuck you over because he has fucking autoattacks and you don't
Whoever designed those classes deserves to be shot.

I'm still playing hon with my friends, it's fun. You should get back to it

>>376388483
>that fucking sound when you grab a nigga with Pharaoh
10/10

>>376388483
>>Not to mention the GOAT early S2 heroes like Madman, The Dark Lady, Deadwood, Chipper, Bombardier, Electrician, Maliken, Zephyr, Nymphora, Fayde, Puppet Master, Gauntlet, Kraken, and Moraxus
Maliken was so fucking legit, holy shit.

Moraxus is so fucking fun

No other games have tried to make those kind of characters anymore.

>>376396751
Moraxxus was my main in HoN ,never any other game tryed something like that.

Also it was cool how he gained armor when he leveled up.

>>376389351

> 6.7k
but the Skill Rating system didn't go even halfway that high.

>>376397053
Hell yeah! I played him a lot too. HoN was the only moba game that I like playing carries in. Ricing up the jungle and hitting some easy ganks in lanes was the shit. Dota just doesn't feel the same.

>no shop keybinds
>that disgusting turning delay
If I wanted "realism" with character momentum I would be playing some shit game like ARMA

>>376397345
I'm a fag for dota.
have around 3,4 k hours in Dota2 but dropped for a whole year now.

I got used to the turn around of the heroes,but the fast paced combat of HoN was more enjoyable.

Also really liked Flint,Behemoth and tundra.

>>376385628
no

>>376387305
god I want some of these ported to Dota 2
they they can fucking do it, but they're too fucking busy making hats, and releasing 1 hero per year

>>376387076
There is a Private Server up with a couple of players, apparently.

>>376386868

I always preferred HoN simply because despite being ugly it just felt closer to the original dota more than any of the new ones, including dota2

Also because it always had a working camera hack that pretty much everyone used.

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>Tibia
http://www.tibia.com
>still going

holy shit

>>376391981
This

Why do all Mobas have a boring, vague fantasy aesthetic?

Dawngate ;__; fuck EA

>>376394349
Paragon was just a massive ammount of plinko related stuff. Also there was an ascention thing that was their attemp at copying the compendium. I don't play dota2 so I can't tell exactly what are the similarities.
The de facto replacement for the war effort is the mastery system. Pretty big to explain briefly but it basicaly lets you grind heroes for rewards, including a bit of gold.

>dawngate
;_; it hurts

>>376398586
damn shame characters had an special vibe
they just cut their wings before it could fly

I remember a game that was similar to worms but quite old with very simple graphics, typically something you would play on school computers.

Whats the name?

>>376386972
LoL do not have the best business model, I would say Dota 2, Smite or even Hots got that by now. What Riot did was just fill the vacuum when HoN died. Also no trial? WTF was that months long open beta? Not trial enough for you?

>>376387729

So what killed Tribes?

I played it while it was fresh and thought it was fun, but got busy with RL stuff. Then I tried to come back and everyone told me it's a waste a of time now.

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I wonder if anyone actually still plays it, hospital is still one of my favorite FPS maps of all time.

http://armorcritical.com/

Damn, I played it back before I even found runescape on miniclip, called ARC back then.

>>376398845
Liero?

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;_;

>>376397053
Motherfucking Moraxus

Combining the speed of a ganker, tankiness and stuns of a proper initiator and the pursuing power of a berserking hell galloping beast.

I loved that the E was an ammo based skillshot and the axes actually stick in the enemy's body. Also they deal decent damage over the fact that they slow, and then Moraxus rams them and pounds the enemy to the ground. Reflect damage with his Tower Shield was so satisfying when timed right. Holy fuck he does deal damage.

And somehow it's not overdesigned or broken. Certainly strong, though.

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Urban Terror
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1hWxeR51fo
made a lot of friends there

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>>376390919
That was a legit good game. RIP.

Games /v/ completely stopped talking about after their month of popularity
Dirty Bomb
The Secret World
Trove
GiTS : SAC
Strike Vector
Wakfu
Global Agenda
Gear Up
Blade Symphony
Blacklight Retribution
Insurgency

>>376389545

>lifetime sub

Jesus Christ anon, I don't know if I should call you retarded or feel awful for you.

>>376399263
Duke Kickem

But this isn't the thread, my man.

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>>376385580
still a thing brings a bit of happiness into my life

Nosgoth, was not half bad. Not what old fans wanted but not a bad game. Dead as hell now.

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>>376399445
I played it and thought that it was a fun concept BUT deeply flawed as a business scheme and really hard to balance and keep fresh and fun.

>>376390492
I honestly like the direction they've been taking Battlerite, not quite as good as BLC yet though. Fuck Funcom.

>>376387076
I member, Anon. The last great MMO.

>>376397906
Yeah. It's still kinda fucky, but good. Player run economy is kinda garbage with such a small population, but I guess you can't have everything.

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>online games you thought would last forever

I am looking right at you City of Heroes/Villains and Global Agenda. Just goes to show even with a perfect idea and good execution a terrible publisher and holding company will never do any good.

I feel so naive, I wish I got more out of them when they were alive.

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>>376389545
I payed like $250 - $300 on Firefall.

>>376398861
HiRez happened. they pulled a valve and euthanized it when their game in a more popular genre took off (Smite), and now they are trying to do it again with Paladins. at least smite is too big to be put down, good for the people who play that

please don't kill paladins hirez. i unironically find it fun

>>376394895
>>376395360
Man I remember Anarchy Online.

Is it still fun to play since it's so old? I remember there being a lot of cool shit like housing and vehicles.

>>376398331
Isn't this a MUD?

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>Well of Souls

You could still play online but it's basically a ghost town.

THANK YOU FOR PLAYING WELL OF SOULS

Holy shit, I remember when there were daily shit-flinging threads between players of HoN and League. I bet the HoN team is still kicking themselves for fucking up and not going F2P.

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God I hope it died

>>376393763
> they nerfed throwing dynamite

tfw can't lul people to death as well anymore

that shit was hilarious

>>376394895

Did they add diagonal run animations? I don't think i could stomach characters sliding sideways in [current year]

>dance online
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO2jFoDVf0E#t=00m45s

Played this before I learned of stepmania. The website timed out so I guess its dead.

>>376385580
BreakyCPK is the literal GOAT

>>376400991
>not using powder kegs as your primary weapon

>>376401775
yeah, donkey konging people to death is pretty great but it's not as consistantly doable.

>>376393763
Pass

>>376402294
high noon

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Looks like a good amount of people still play this. I almost never see anybody, though, so it's hard as fuck to level up as a lowbie.

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STOP

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;_;

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>>376403080
>tfw going full matrix mode taking on 3 people at once
i need to find something similar, eventually

>>376403080
That game was fucking fun, man. And I'm not even a weeb.

Also
>APB
Seems like it's still alive
>RaiderZ
Gone for years
>WonderKing
RIP
>Battlefield Heroes
Also RIP

UrT
dead as soon as CSGO hit. I believe only jump maps and LAN tournaments remain to this day
fun game all over.

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