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time to END this meme once and for all

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Banjo was NEVER good.

>clunky controls
>banjo not at all satisfying to control
>moves like a fucking slug
>high jump requires standing still in one place
>impossible to develop any momentum
>have to transverse the game on an imprecise chicken legs to move with any speed whatsoever
>entire game is built upon the tedious collecting of various trinkets

all Banjo has goingn for it is charm, but it fails horribly in the GAMEPLAY department when you compare it to superior games like Mario 64.
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next time just write "I am under 18" as the first line of your post, it will be easier to hide the thread. Thanks
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>>376379447
Well what's your take on Banjo-Kazooie?
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>>376379447
I mean hiding the threads one click either way m8, maybe you meant something else
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>>376379447
your nostalgia is not an argument.
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>>376379447
translation: I played this game when I was six, therefore it's a good game
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I'm about to play this for the first time on Wii U.
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>>376379321
>clunky controls
It has better controls that SM64.
>banjo not at all satisfying to control
See above.
>moves like a fucking slug
See above.
>high jump requires standing still in one place
And?
>impossible to develop any momentum
And?
>have to transverse the game on an imprecise chicken legs to move with any speed whatsoever
It's extremely precise and you move faster than in SM64.
>entire game is built upon the tedious collecting of various trinkets
Just like SM64.
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I never had a n64 when it was new and I recently played it again before Yooka Laylee
Game is still good, not a 9/10 but ok for the time. Still better than endless cawadooties, gaylos, overshit and that jazz.
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>>376379852
>It has better controls that SM64.
didn't even bother reading the rest of your post

>>376379985
>this entire post
18+
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Banjo was still good, but mario 64 is the best 3D platformer ever
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>>376380037
I am 31.
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>>376380276
that's even more embarrassing
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>>376379321
All 3d games had clunky controls back then dipshit
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>>376380330
Yeah go get your diapers changed now, son.
We all know if I had said any age you would still shitpost at me, so fuck off.
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>>376380415
super mario 64's movement was fantastic
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>>376379321
This might be bait but it's really apples to oranges. Banjo Kazooie and Mario 64 both had different, very deliberate design decisions. It's like comparing DKC to SMW. Sure, DKC is "slower" than SMW, is less technical, but these were all for good reasons. BK focused more on exploring, and Super Mario 64 is more focused on objectives. Notice that even BK, that has smaller worlds than BT, has much larger worlds by at least a factor of 2 than SM64? Notice that the puzzles in BK are a lot less technical and require a lot more thinking than Mario 64 puzzles?
Your same logic can be applies to Super Mario 64.

>tiny ass maps
>no transformations (caps, lol how half assed)
>puzzles require almost no thinking
>characters are bland, have almost no personality
>final boss is a breeze, only takes 2 minutes to kill vs like 10 for gruntilda
>flying is limited to like 30 seconds
>mario has less moves than banjo
>graphics aren't as good and has almost no lighting effects compared to BK
>game has less fun unique challenges and puzzles, most stars are very straightforward
I don't hate Mario 64 at all, I think it's better than Banjo Kazooie. But my point is, that it's apples to oranges.
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Why are Mario 64 fags so obnoxious?

>durr why isn't every game like Mario 64
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>clunky controls
They felt fine. You either didn't like the N64 controller and/or thought there were too many moves to remember. I played this game again a few months ago and they were smooth and responsive. Tell me how you think they're clunky.
>banjo not at all satisfying to control
Again, how?
>moves like a fucking slug
Did you forget to hold Z while moving?
>High jump requires standing still in one place
Levels are built around that, so that if you have to do it there's not a ton of shit around you. Or do you suck so bad you try to hi jump when surrounded?
>Impossible to develop momentum
Try running
>have to transverse the game on an imprecise chicken legs to move with any speed whatsoever
How is Kazooie imprecise? She does move a little too fast, but you basically have to try to fall off cliffs or run into enemies
>entire game is built upon the tedious collecting of various trinkets
So you not liking collectathons means it's shit? Also, you don't need everything to beat the game.

Wait until you're 18 to post here next time.
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>>376380037
>didn't even
didn't finish reading your post
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>>376380578
we have been wondering this for a long time too.
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>>376380648
>di
only made it that far
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>Angry millenial who can't get into games made before they were born
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>>376380731
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>>376379321
>controls
>controls
> controls
>controls
>controls
>controls
>complain about collecting things in a collectathon

You have one argument about why it wasn't good and it holds no water. BK wasn't a platformer, it didn't need the ultra precise platformer controls.
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>>376380505
then why did you bother replying with your age at all? a predictable dumb response from someone who uses "cawadooties" and "gaylos" ten years past their expiration date
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>>376380532
No it wasn't. It was functional but it was not nearly as smooth and fluid as you people make it out to be.
>inb4 cherrypicked webm showing impressive technique that would take hundreds of hours to actually master and you would never see on any normal playthrough
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>>376379321
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>>376380648
i saw a (You), smiled and am now closing the tab
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>>376380832
Cry me a river
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>>376380916
>being this butthurt
just close the tab. don't make me break out my meme folder
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>>376380836
it had solid momentum and a lot of options for jumps, dives, etc. not talking about TAS memes
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>>376381193
>muh jiggies
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>>376379321
Agreed.
Hipsters like making up shit up about "hidden gems" they claim is even better than what is mainstreamly considered the best N64 3D platformer.

The fact is it's universally considered the best 3D platformer of its console and one of the best games of all because it truly is both of these things.
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>>376379321
What is nostalgia?
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>>376379321
Yeah I never really liked it either, even as a kid.

Then again, I found Mario 64 to be lackluster as well. 3D platformers without any motivation to do anything besides collecting stars just feel lifeless to me. That's why I really enjoyed the first Jak and Daxter game (2 was shit, and 3 I never finished), and all the Sly Cooper games. These games had some kind of story, and the characters themselves actually had some personality. Sly in particular reminded me of the Saturday morning cartoons I used to watch in the 90s...

it's a great series and I hope that movie they were making turns out good.
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Banjo was always good and so is Yooka-Laylee.
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At least BK doesn't have shit fucking 'LE HALF LE A-PRESS LELEELE ''''''''HENRY''''''' XDDD" memes
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>>376381472
downvoated
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>>376381563
No Yooka Laylee feels alien and dry
Maybe it is a reflection of the current lives of the people that is making it
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>>376381563
a better game would the controls of YL + the worlds of BK.

both fall short in each respect imo.
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>>376381569
that because nobody cares enough to dedicate their life to it

the only reason /v/ talks about banjo is because of the latest kickstarter flop
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>>376381849
what the hell...
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>>376379447
I'm 23. Eat my ass.
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>>376381926
this is what happens when pannenkoek is uninhibited by the No A-button challenge.
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>>376381981
>bussy
yum yum
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That's all, folks
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I think DK64 is the overrated, actually shitty Rare collectathon
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>>376379516
>>376379570
>>376379663
>>376379816
>>376381981
I see the 1995 defense force has arrived.
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>>376382779
You don't need to say that, there's way more people who agree with you than people who defend the game
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>>376382832
>23
>1995
I see the "idiots who can't do math" defense force has arrived
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>>376382304
>>376382592
>>376382647
>>376382714
these aren't even that bullshit either. makes me want to find a rom and replay it
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Someone post the Pannen entries for that speedrun comp he was kicked out of.
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>>376382909
It's a meme kiddo, sorry you're too young to understand.
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>>376382875
Oh I forgot
The only purpose to post is to bait people and make them angry.
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>>376382986
theres no black in a rainbow
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>>376382779
threadly reminder that "collectathon" is a pejorative and rightly so
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>>376382304
Mario 64 had much better levels than Kazooie, Tooie, or DK 64. To date, Rare's only good games are the DKC trilogy.
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>>376379321
Banjo is a 3D Platformer with a different focus. A focus on exploration. That's all. It's not bad, it's different. I can get why people prefer SM64 over it (heck I prefer SM64 over it) but Banjo Kazooie is alright. It has a lot of things going for it.

Besides I'm pretty sure anyone who has an extremely high preference for SM64, would still prefer 3D platformers like Banjo as opposed to "linear," ones in comparison.
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>>376383140
Some people like it

And with "people" I mean autists
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>>376383208
>>376383140
Some people like planting crops in vidya, do we question their tastes?
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>>376383308
Fuck yes.
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>>376383308
yes. is that even a question
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>>376383308
>tfw like collecting shit and planting crops
Am I on the spectrum?
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>>376383413
More like the Alminac, farmer Ted.
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>>376379321
>Banjo was NEVER good.
>Lists all the flaws without comparing it to similar games and giving it a historical context
>Lists chicken legs three times

Nah, you're just an idiot.
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>>376383462
I could really go for some fucking buffalo wild wings right now.
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>>376383462
the dust has settled on rare, and like tim schafer, it was never actually good
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>>376379321
I disagree. I liked the gameplay.
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>>376383526
That's fair.

>>376383347
>>376383385
Crop-based video games are timeless. Stop being stupid.
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>>376383140
Is rewarding player exploration and incentivizing well crafted level design a bad thing?
Maybe you shouldn't be playing videogames if you think that way.
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>>376383771
This game is about the dating I thought?
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>>376384071
those are good things but we were discussing collectathons
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>>376384729
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>>376384729
next you're going to say platforming isn't a art of collectathons.
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>>376382775
>>376382714
>>376382647
>>376382592
>>376382304
ok, this is one of two things, but i don't know which
>absolute evidence of the genius, advanced, and abundant movement and world development ideas at the time
or
>wow, we gave mario way too many movements/abilities, in a simple/geometrically-obvious world
pls i need help.
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>>376384368
The girls and the RPG mechanics are how they trick you into playing the game. It's really about the crops.
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>>376379852
>It has better controls than SM64.
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>>376386737
Probably a combination of both
They knew you could do shit like this but I doubt they expected you to do this at this extent
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