Skyrim Hate Thread

>>376350005

Skyrim is okay

>>376350005
No
It's the best RPG that's been released since 2011, it combined world size, content, quests, characters, music, mechanics, dlc, modding capability, physics, AI and graphics in a way that hasn't been anywhere near approached by any RPG since.

>B-but muh casuals!

It's still a better game than anything that's been released since in its genre.

at least its better than oblivion

>>376351283
>content
???
>quests
>dude radiant quest lmao
>characters
literally not a single memorable character
>mechanics
Press M1 hard to kill enemy
>dlc
shitfest of scripts that can corrupt save files.
>modding capability, physics, AI and graphics
hahahaha

>>376350005
I wish dragons wouldn't constantly annoy me from enjoying this hunting and sneaking bow-simulator.

Reminder that Bethesda has never created a good game. Their games have always been bug-ridden trash

>>376351614
>???
More content than any other game released since
>literally not a single memorable character
More memorable in terms of total than any other game, which either have npc's that you can't interact with or only 4 memorable npc's. Skyrim has balance. "literally not a single memorable character" can apply to all games
>Press M1 hard to kill enemy
So every game ever. Skyrim has better combat than every previous TES game.
>shitfest of scripts that can corrupt save files.
That's your inability to download mods properly and clean them, nothing to do with the DLC's.
>hahahaha
Not an argument. Witcher 3 is a static world with floaty mechanics and no interactivity or physics to speak off.

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>He fell for the people don't like Skyrim meme

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>>376351294
Fuck off. You take that back.

The entire game was objectively better, particularly the guilds.

The only reason anyone would ever defend oblivion is because they played it in middle school, anyone who knows anything about video games knows that oblivion is the worst cancer ever shat out onto the rpg genre

prove me wrong nostalgiafags

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>>376351294
Get out of here, Oblivion's the best ES game by far.

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>>376352710
>More content than any other game released since
lol
>Memorable NPCs
I can say I remember them, but they were all really bland and lacked interesting personalities. Paarthurnax was the only somewhat interesting character and the game blocks you from good content if you don't.
>Skyrim has better combat than every previous TES game
Skyrim's combat feels the best to play, but it is the most simplistic.

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>>376352835
>copy pasted world that's the most boring in the series
>potato faces
>5 voice actors
>copy pasted dungeons with world breaking chests randomly strewn about for no reason
>dogshit questlines with literally zero flexibility or choice

this is what oblivionfags actually believe

>>376352835
>>376353292
Shitters who's first """"""""""""""RPG""""""""""""""" was Oblivion.

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>>376353473
Compare that to the other games and what do you get?

>still 5 voice actors
>terrible faces like in any Bethesda game
>more or less the same setting with minor variations
>questlines that don't involve much choice

It's almost like you named traits of the last 3 Elder Scrolls games in general.

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>>376353620
>>still 5 voice actors
There are more in skyrim stop bullshitting.
>>terrible faces like in any Bethesda game
Even Morrowind had better faces than Oblivion.
>>more or less the same setting with minor variations
>medieval tolkein
>medieval viking GoT
>questlines that don't involve much choice
...fug

>>376353620
look at skyrim for comparison
>hand crafted world with varied setting and locations
>hand crafted dungeons each with their own unique interiors and stories
>infinitely more voice actors each with unique dialogue (no shitty randomly generated conversations)
>no potato faces
>questlines that have similar amount of choice/consequence (which is often what oblivionfags flaunt, but they're literally the exact same in quality)

Skyrim simply had a way bigger budget and is objectively better, take off your rose tinted glasses nostalgiafag

Exactly. I'm actually playing it right now.

1. I downloaded an animation mod because fuck that.

2. I downloaded auto cast because switching back and forth between literally every spell is horrific

3. I downloaded a difficulty mod because it's just too fucking easy

4. I downloaded an AI mod so now the enemy's have 5th grader combat knowledge instead of being toddlers

5. I downloaded a music mod because fuck that

6. I downloaded quest mods because those actually have decent writing.

It's just not a good game. It's practically a skeleton without mods

>>376353931
>typos

Fuck

>>376351294
>at least its better than oblivion
You're not wrong, but that really doesn't mean much. You'd have to try really hard to make a game that fucking bad. Skyrim's problem is that they didn't try at all.

>>376350005
gameranx?

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>>376351901
This.

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>ITT oblivionfags getting btfo once again

I fucking love red pilling oblivion shitters on how shitty their game was and still is

even skyrim was better, SKYRIM for fuck's sake

>>376353931
I'm one of the few bastards who plays Skyrim without mods. Mods to me just feel broken most of the time, like I'm always looking for another one to just get things right. Don't have that itch with vanilla. Also you have things like nice skin mod which fuck up characters. Old dragon lady is now some plastic abomination, yay.

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>>376353606
>hahaha can you tell I never played Oblivion? here's a little "not even an rpg" meme that's I'm improperly applying to an actual RPG instead of actual false RPGs like FO4 and the game this thread was made on.

Come on man

>>376353887
I'm not counting celebrity and other one-time voices since I assume the same was done with Oblivion. Also, Oblivion's faces really aren't that bad like 80% of the time.

>>376353928
>hand crafted world with varied setting and locations
Uhhhh you mean snowy hills, snowy plains, geysers, or regular forest?
>hand crafted dungeons each with their own unique interiors and stories
That's hilarious, 90% of Skyrim dungeons have no such things. Also have fun fighting Draugr.
>infinitely more voice actors each with unique dialogue (no shitty randomly generated conversations)
There's a similar amount of VAs in Skyrim. Dialogue is generally more unique per NPC but ironically everyone felt more generic anyway.
>no potato faces
Go look at Skyrim's faces again.
>questlines that have similar amount of choice/consequence (which is often what oblivionfags flaunt, but they're literally the exact same in quality)
Choices and Consequence aren't the only things that make a questline good. Skyrim's faction questline stories were objectively shit and inferior to Oblivion's in basically every way.

>>376353931
The secret is not using mods to fix the existing game, which is impossible, but to create your own game within the game.
I downloaded Frostfall, a multiple follower mod, a bunch of treasure and economy related mods and started my own caravan.
It's honestly more fun than playing the game how it was meant to be played.

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>>376354649
>implying I'm going to spend the time to refute this bait

>>376354649
>'m not counting celebrity and other one-time voices
Still more. Get your shit together faggot.
>That's hilarious, 90% of Skyrim dungeons have no such things. Also have fun fighting Draugr.
Still lying. Many have journals and some are even connected to the actual lore, Red Eagle, that triple amulet shit, etc.
>Go look at Skyrim's faces again.
no potato faces except the children

>>376353931
There hasn't been a better RPG than Skyrim and it got released in 2011 do you remember any other games from 2011? No and that speaks for how good Skyrim actually was people play it to this day because it did many things right.

NEVER SHOULD'VE COME HERE

>>376354258
Oblivion had two things, very good faction/daedric quests and expansions
Everything from visuals to combat to leveling was basically broken shit

>>376352710
>"literally not a single memorable character" can apply to all games
it can't apply to games with 1 or more memorable characters

>>376355082
People play it because its a blank slate for people to mod how they want. I honeslty don't have the patience to get past lvl 13 its so bad even with mods.

>>376354649
>Also, Oblivion's faces really aren't that bad like 80% of the time.
Both Skyrim and Oblivion have some serious problems but this is just not true.

>>376355179
>SHOULD'VE

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>>376355047
>Still more. Get your shit together faggot.
Literally the only difference is 2 or 3 extra Nord VAs. The other races are still one per sex just like Oblivion.
>Still lying. Many have journals and some are even connected to the actual lore, Red Eagle, that triple amulet shit, etc.
One out of 10, yea.
>no potato faces except the children
Oblivion's faces weren't bad for their time either for 99% of the NPCs. There was just the occasional one that the face creation system mistreated. Neither game's facial textures are aging well.

>>376350005
Like an abusive ex girl friend it keeps sucking me back in with the sweet sweet honey moon period of fun before it reminds me how shitty horrible and painful it is every single second I'm there.
Constantly crashing and freezing, beating me and then having me falsely arrested as the abuser while she burns my clothes and throws away my cell phone again

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Y'all want to hear a really creepy story about my Oblivion (Elder Scrolls IV) story? It's a short read but I think it's worth it.

So in Oblivion there's this item called the Skull of Corruption and I used a glitch to make a permanent clone of myself that summoned two things at once and said weird stuff.

I killed him in the Imperial City. (Pic Related)

>>376355432
Not him but the main issue with oblivion was the huge departure in art direction, both environmental, character and item
Skyrim is a lot closer in how elves looked in the old morrowind/redguard concept art and in general Skyrim had better art direction, wish they were more bold though

>>376355674
That's not creepy though

>>376355432
>only difference is 2 or 3 extra nords
takes two seconds to look up, you're objectively wrong
>one out of ten
every dungeon is still unique though, unlike oblivion where literally the ENTIRE game is copy-pasted dogshit
>oblivions faces weren't bad for their time
okay now I KNOW this is bait

>>376355674
Ok, I'm actually confused now. Are you tracking my IP or something? You find me EVERY SINGLE TIME.

>>376355432
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Category:Skyrim-VoiceTypes
There, stop lying now. Name fagging shitter.

>>376351781
>stealth archery
someone post it, i actually laugh at it every damned time

>>376355825
I did look it up, not counting one-time voices or celebrities I'm exactly right.

What makes one Draugr hellhole any more unique from the next?

Yea okay I concede I'm b8ing a bit with the faces thing.

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I've found the people who criticize Skyrim the hardest on steam are often the same ones with 1000+ hours on record.

>>376355996
>people who have played a game extensively give the most in-depth criticism of it
What an incredible coincidence!

>>376355836
Not much else to do in this void.

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>>376355372
>Explored 75% of the dungeons and caves in the game that aren't locked behind guild or main story quests
>Be Lv 18
How do people get to Lv 30 without getting bored for one character?

>>376356125
It is when people are repeating their criticisms for a game they clearly love

>>376355432
>People who like the game wish for it to be better.
I fucking love TES as a setting but the games are so lackluster, liking TES is like being in a abusive relationship.

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I bought the special/ultimate/whatever edition when it was on sale a couple weeks ago. Having fun but the combat still dampens the overall experience. It's so bland, no real decisions and not even much to dodge aside from dragon breaths.

I think the problem is that they have to make a combat system that works both in first and third person which means making it shallow as fuck. Third person only could have some better combat, like at least Witcher quality. Could be amazing if magic had some depth to its use (like in Magicka) and melee had strong depth like in Chivalry Medieval Warfare.

I swore off doing stealth archery this time because it is just too easy, using 1-handed/sneak and destruction/illusion/conjuration/restoration for my build. Overall pretty easy so far except for this one time I had to kill a vampire, took forever. Also the Miraak boss fight took really long but it was kinda easy. I liked that questline though, never played any of the DLC years ago so seeing the Morrowind aesthetics again was really comfy.

>>376356401
Meant for
>>376355996

>>376356231
Exploits. I can get to lvl 30 in under an hour jumping around like an idiot, letting wolves gnaw on me in light and heavy armor, healing from the damage while also wearing something to restore my magicka in combat, telekenesis or open lock for alteration, and some other tricks. I can't remember my mercantile trick it was some weird combination of selling an enchanted item, charming the merchant, haggling and buying it back at only a slight loss then selling it again. You can get it up to 100 that way but there are steps I'm missing. Basically when you've sunk enough time into the game leveling is only a minor inconvenience.

>>376355954
>not counting one time voices
but you're forgetting that oblivion used the SAME voice actors not only for generic NPCs but quest related ones too, Skyrim has over 50 individual voice actors specifically for quests, it's not even debatable how much more unique voices skyrim contains in comparison
>what makes one dragur hellhole any more unique
Skyrim has 100+ dungeons and only 20 of them are dragur filled (not to mention still entirely handcrafted by a team as opposed to one guy) it's a stale meme

>>376350005
Skyrim is pretty fun

>>376356492
sword + board is the complete wrong way to play

archery/magic adds an entirely new layer of actually having to aim during gameplay, it's much funner that way

>>376356962
>Skyrim has 100+ dungeons and only 20 of them are dragur filled (not to mention still entirely handcrafted by a team as opposed to one guy) it's a stale meme

And the vast majority of them are hallways filled with enemies and puzzles which literally give you the answers right behind them

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>>376356231
Playing with cheats

I could care less about immersion

i went to do the expansion shit first that required me to be a higher level anyway

>>376350593
This desu. It's an alright game to just play and adventure in. Not as good as Morrowind and not as bad as Oblivion, it's just something to spend time on that will probably neither excite you nor bore you out of your mind.

>>376356492
Archery>>>>Magic>Warhammers>Other 2h weapons>>>>>>>>Sword and Board

>>376357245
>And the vast majority of them are hallways filled with enemies and puzzles

exactly, while oblivion in comparison offers even LESS variation with zero environmental interactions and the same content continually dredged across every single dungeon with no variation and random chests thrown around for no canonical reason

at least skyrim had something unique to see in every dungeon, with certain locations even stretching out into the open world

in oblivion you enter your first cave and you've seen them all, virtually no reason to continue playing after that point

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>>376357507
>warhammers above greatswords

nice b8 m8

The amount of people here shilling hard for an objectively shit game like Skyrim proves we've been invaded by the likes of reddit and neogaf.

>>376357647
Warhammers power attacks feel like they have some impact, greatswords feel like you are swinging around a tree branch.

>>376355996
>Alcohol is horrible it will ruin your life
>your opinion is wrong you used to be drunk all the time

>>376357552
That's because the reason to play Oblivion are all the amazing quests. Nobody likes boring dungeons.

>>376357651
>implying it's no underages who obsess over oblivion because they played it in middle school

true oldfags recognize skyrim as the better game, not a GOOD game, just better than the absolute dogshit that was oblivion

>>376357769
every weapon in skyrim feels like a wet noodle, you may as well be swinging faster

>>376357795
>oblivion
>amazing quests

choose one and only one

>>376357854
>Oldfags prefer the most recent and less memorable title
Riiiiiiiiiight

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>>376357651
How about you just stop bitching and buy the game?

>>376358028
>Oblivion quests
>All of Dark Brotherhood. Creative Daedric quests. Painting world. Heavy ring. Sleeping on the ship.
>Skrim quests
>Uhhhhhhh...

>>376358034
>less memorable
kek you are right about that, oblivion will be remembered forever as the turning point of the elder scrolls series where bethesda betrayed it's fans to pander to the kiddie console crowd by rushing out a copy-pasted mess for "next gen" consoles

>>376358227
>a bunch of streamlined quests with dumb story gimmicks to be "memorable" despite obvious plotholes
both have shit quests, oblivion is just shittier in every other way

>>376358227
>Heavy ring

The ring where that guild guy tries to drown you? Joke was on him, I always play Argonian!


One thing I think we can agree on is the Shivering Isles was a better expansion to Oblivion than either Dawnguard or Dragonborn were for Skyrim

>>376350005
Good game. I had about 150h of fun playing this one.

>>376358484
>Good quests are bad guys
You're trying too hard to be contrarion. Seriously. Name a single memorable or interesting quest in Skyrim. Whenever I talk to any Elder Scrolls fan who has played all the titles they all admit that Oblivion had some amazing quests. If you're argument is "well, they're both shit." that means you're losing.

There's NOTHING to do in this game.
Might as well have just used a terrain generator and thrown enemies in it.
OH WAIT

>>376358680
I got over 1000h myself but only because of a few expansion pack sized mods like Enderal and Falskaar, as well as some other overhaul mods which weren't as memorable and were mostly collectathons

Still thats over a month and a half of my life I'll never get back.

>>376357342

>not as bad as oblivion
>implying oblivion wasn't a solid sequel to morrowind, modernizing some of the systems while still being a very solid RPG
>implying skyrim even comes close to touching oblivion
>implying skyrim is anything but a fat fucking turd

>>376358982
>Game where you can do what you want, he can't find something to do

You make Todd very sad

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>>376359151
embarrassing

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>>376359151
>implying skyrim is anything but a fat fucking turd

A fat turd which sold 20 million copies before getting into the DLC and Special Edition (which surprisingly there are people actually paying money for it)

>>376359593
So it sold a lot? Great. But it's still shit though. Can you prove it's not shit compared to Oblivion, morrowind, or even ESO?

Skyrim is cozy but not as cozy as Oblivion.

>>376359758
see
>>376353473

>>376359593
I gotta give them props for giving the SE out for free to anyone who already owned the regular version.

>>376350005
I hate that it so perfect.
It has ruined gaming for me.

>>376360512
this to be honest

literally perfect

>>376360337
Shit examples. Skyrim's world is bland and boring Norse world alla Game of Thrones. Very grey with shit colors. And the sound mixing is shit, and I've played Oblivion recently so I know for a fact it's getter than Skyrim. I can actually here voice actors in Oblivion over the music, and the voice actors sound like they're putting actual emotion into their performances. Oblivion is also far more comfy and colorful with nicer music than Skyrim. Spells are better too. There really isn't a whole lot where Skyrim improves upon Oblivion.

How do i turn this game into the prime rape simulator?

>Copy paste dungeons
Probably the worst thing about it. That coupled with cookie cutter enemies and shallow combat for every fucking class makes this game a joke.

>>376360962
http://www.loverslab.com/
Download whatever mods sound good.

>>376360942
Morrowind has the best MQ
Oblivion has the best faction and side quests
Skyrim Is second to both in their strengths and beats the other two in every other aspect.

This is absolute fact.

>>376361804
Skyrim's music is shit. Skyrim is grey and bland. The sound mixing is shit and voice actors regularly get drowned out by music. Shit amount of spells compared to both previous titles.

>>376360962
Do you want to be raped in detail? There's lots of mods for that.

Do you want to rape NPCs in detail? Well shit, you're out of luck.

>>376362212
The Skyrim theme gets me to half staff every time.
It may just be a guy thing.
It is understandable if you don't get it ma'am.

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>>376362212
>Skyrim's music is shit
Ok fuck you faggot, if one thing bethesda does right its music.

>>376350005
Don't you have something better to spend your time on?

If you forget that it's an RPG and play Skyrim as an open world adventure game it's actually pretty fun

>>376362768
The best songs in Skyrim were direct rifs some previous titles. All the new shit is shit.

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>>376362994
The only direct rif i recognized was the main theme, which everyone knows is a remix. Eat shit faggot, credit is due where its deserved. In fact I enjoyed Skyrims music the most out of all TES games.

>>376363280
That just proves you're underage and like Skyrim because it was your first.

>>376364196
>That just proves you're underage
you need to explain your theory in detail, anon.

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>>376352710
>no interactivity
That's Skyrim's problem. No choices or consequences to speak of and you're comparing it to a game with multiple scenarios for almost every quest. Skyrim has zero replay value since your race and even your gender are simply aesthetic. Apparently every male and female character you can romance is bisexual. That's sad. Even I didn't realize just how bad it was until finding that out recently.

Romance. Another category in which Skyrim is best not compared to the Witcher for the benefit of Skyrim, though that's partly an extension of Skyrim's writing and characterization just being subpar all around; I don't blame people who've only been exposed to Skyrim for thinking that JRPGs are just better than WRPGs. Endless, random quest generation in Skyrim is awful and the entire world just feels stagnant. Even the world and DLCs are bigger in Witcher 3.

>>376364196
You must be 18 to browse 4chan sweetie.

>>376364386
>though that's partly an extension
hello numale.

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>>376364196
Nope. My favorite TES is Daggerfall, morrowfags pretty retarded when they say their game was the high of the series when it was the biggest downgrade of them all. Oblivionfag fags like you are simply embarrassing.

>>376364347
Anon is probably a Morrowind fag yelling at the kids to get off his lawn.
Getting old makes you cranky and scared of new things.

>>376364631
And the Apex hipster makes an appearance.

>>376364467
>No u
I'd hate to say this, but you're probably a kid if that's the best argument you can come up with.

>>376364795
It's a skyrimbabby false-flagging as a Daggerfall player.

>>376364795
>hipster
You really do belong on facebook.

>>376364695
So you are an underage then. Opinion discarded.

>>376364914
I'm not saying skyrim is good you faggot.

>>376364914
This. Dagger fall hipsters would never say they like Skyrim. False flagger is obvious.

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>>376350005
Do you get to the cloud district very often? Oh, what am I saying, of course you don't.

>>376364695
you really need to get to 18 first, kiddo

>>376364938
Not only a hipster but shitty at bantz.Sad.

>skse64 never

>>376365042
Shouldn't you be wondering "who are these people" gramps?

>>376350005
no rape and sex in original skyrim, we had to mod some shitty animation together 5 years later and they still look shit.

>>376362734
Skyrimjob theme is good, oblivionion's overall soundtrack is better

>>376365142
>he hasn't played daggerfall

oblivionbabbies cry about randomly generated quests when they don't even realize it's been in the series for years

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>>376365284

what mods to make combat playable?

>>376365550
Most of Daggerfall was randomly generated, That's why it's so boring to play. The world isn't interesting since everything looks exactly the same. The only good randomly generated thing about Daggerfall was the dungeons.

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>>376365284
Wasn't the guy who was making it simply not have time or some shit like that?

>itt kids that actually think Oblivion was good
Christ it was a bigger pile of shit than Skyrim and that's saying something because Skyrim is bland on bland topped off with some more bland. I know it must have been your first ever rpg experience but take the damm nostalgia glasses off

>>376365550
I have played daggerfall. Bethesda generated most of the content which was why there are so many dungeons and towns. In fact it wasn't uncommon for a generated dungeon to be impossible to navigate because of this. It's not a bad game though. Certainly better than Skyrim. Not an Oblivion fag either. I rank Morrowind above them all. But Skyrim is still the most shit.

>>376365550
Daggerfall was all randomly generated because that was the only way to make the gigantic world work. What's Skyrim's excuse?

Without mods
gutter trasssssssssssssssssssssssh

With Mods
Most Perfect Fantasy Desire game.exe

Bless the modding community

>>376350005
but I like Skyrim and I think it is objectively the best TES game.

>>376365284
Good.