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You guys ready for Persona 6? >http://p-ch.jp/pbomb2017/

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You guys ready for Persona 6?
>http://p-ch.jp/pbomb2017/
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>>376331158
Site doesn't work.
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>>376331373
>http://p-ch.jp/p-bomb2017/
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>>376331158
>You guys ready for Persona 6?
For a 2026 release you mean?
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>>376331682
Better.
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>>376331158
you're gonna get spin offs first
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>>376331757
Come on, it's gonna be 2024 and you know it.
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My friend who I thought wasn't talking to me hit me up to go to Japan for the concert

I'll tell you all about it the moment they announce Persona 5: Thieving All Night The Crimson Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series
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>>376331158
We've got at least 1 anime, 3 spin-off games and an enhanced edition before we'll see the light of day on a P6. Minimum 5 years.
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>>376331158
>no more Katsura Hashino
Maybe Persona will become good now.
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>new Persona Live
I hope they play the Pyramid Palace theme, shit is DDS as fuck
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What color scheme will P6 be?
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>>376332440
Green
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>>376332440
Green/White/Black >>376331954
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>>376332436
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtQfg5ktK6M
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>>376332440
Purple
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How the heck is Atlus going to top Persona 5? They set the bar way too high, there's no way they can get much higher.
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>>376332715
They don't, they purposely make P6 bad so P7 can shine. It's the long con.
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>>376332440
Green is too obvious so I really hope they go with a lighter purple like maybe Fuchsia.
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It's not going to be P6, it's going to be Persona 5: Episode Goro featuring Raidou Kuzunoha from the Devil Summoner series.

>>376332715
I love the game, but it's not perfect. So long as they can come up with a good premise and theme, I'd say they can top it. The team that makes Persona is working on Project Re: Fantasy right now, so hopefully they can just focus on making that good and they'll get some good ideas or a Persona 6 form taking a break form the series.
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>>376332715
By releasing it on PC
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>>376332967
>The team that makes Persona is working on Project Re: Fantasy
that's a different team
only Hashino left
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>>376332715
P5 was a step forward in the same sense P4 from P3 was. Quality of life gameplay changes and introduction to new systems is what keeps the games going.

Mechanically P5 isn't that different from the previous games, it just cuts some of the older bullshit while adding even more reasons to do other things like social links or activities,while addressing the series major faults via dungeons not being complete ass for once and a turn back to a more SMT themed story. Game still had its problems too, bad pacing and its characters aren't that amazing. I still think its the best in the series though if only due to its mechanics, sound, and visual design.
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>>376332440
Velvet would be cool
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>>376332440
Bratty pink and black. Or super bright rainbow of colors on stark white.
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>>376332715
>Writing
Not even the series's peak

>Artstyle
Can be changed

>Dungeons
This is from a company that make EO and SMT

>OST
Meguro's peak is still DDS2
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>>376333560
>not even the series's peak
it is

>dds2
kek. 2 is full on animeshit. 1 had the better ost.
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>>376333691
>it is
>I haven't played P2 IS
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>>376333768
I have. Take the hipster glasses off. It wasn't better.
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You guys ready for Persona 5 Crimson with a brand new FeMC?
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>>376333768

Eternal punishment was much better than IS
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>>376331954
Was at persona super back in 2015, I'll catch you there anon
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>>376333768

P2 has a good cast and some good emotional moments but the actual plot is a fucking trainwreck, what the fuck are you on about
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>>376332967
>featuring Raidou Kuzunoha from the Devil Summoner series

I wish
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>>376335213
The series could use another female protag honestly.
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>>376333393
This and protag is a girl
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>>376335364
I'd be fine with that, but not for a P5 re-release. I'd rater the game in its current state be made the best it can be, rather than add a FeMC.
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>>376336749
I kinda doubt we'd ever get another female protag except possibly for in a re-release.
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>>376336749
>I'd rater the game in its current state be made the best it can be
But for that you need a female protag
Women are objetively better protagonists than men
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>>376337394
The only problem is that I feel gay when I'm romancing dudes.
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>>376337454
Then romance the girls. Feel straight by going gay.
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>>376337394
It would add to the replayability of the game, but woudl divert attention form making the Potter playthrough the best it can possibly be, and I value the latter over the former. Not to mention that there is no need for a new protagonist when Joker already has such an excellent design.
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>>376337847
But then I'm being literally gay. You see my dilemma?
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I hope that whoever takes the helm of the series serves as a tool of innovation rather than rehashing
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Play mainline faggot
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Where do you want Persona 6 to take place?
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>>376339192
>50th persona anniversary
>Persona 25 is announced
>faggots will still tell you to play mainline
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>>376331757
It can't be that far off. I'm sure they'll use assets from 5. Like how 4 took some from 3 but improved on it.
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>>376331757
P6 will likely be a lot faster than P5. They've got all the assets of P5 to work off of.
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>>376339267

A college town.
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>>376339328
By then we can enjoy SMT 6
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>>376339267
Realistically, Osaka or Kyoto
Ideally, anywhere that is not japan or us
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>>376339417
Lost it
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>>376339267
inside my ass
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>>376332592
P1 already covered that in the PSP remake
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>>376339267
AMERICA

Not even joking I'd find it neat if they took the same kind of approach to traveling around let's say DC like they did with P5.
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>>376339267
Ikebukoro. Or maybe Matsumoto.
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>>376339519
Persona wouldnt work in america
All slinks would involve drinking, getting high or fucking bitches on parties in tons of unprotected teenager sex
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>>376339267
A beach town
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>>376331872
>2024
That's just enough time to learn japanese and skip waiting for english dub.
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>>376331954
>Persona 5: Thieving All Night The Crimson Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series
Preorders when?
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>>376339516
And P2 already used red. Your point?
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>>376340057
Dark red
Try again smartass
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>>376336749
>rather than add a FeMC.
I doubt we're getting another FemC. P3P got one, but it also had the most silent of the modern Persona protagonists, as well as a static overworld and no animated cutscenes because lolumd. They had to change very little in comparison to what they would have to for any of the console Persona 3+ games, especially Persona 5.
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>>376339818
Would be an interesting change of pace to say the least.

But I imagine something like that would get shitflinging from one side since if you try having a Western developer try to do something Eastern, racism, cultural appropriation, censorship, or other buzzwords would inevitably come about.
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>>376333691
>it is
>reads like a parody of a tomino anime with all the ADULTS ARE EVIL palaces
>after Joker "dies", the villains proceed to spell out their entire plan and how they got together for absolutely no reason
>final stretch is incredibly rushed
P3 had a better plot even if the pacing was absolutely atrocious.
P5 has the better main cast though.
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>>376339417
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>>376331954
&knuckles
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>>376339420
>MOTHERFUCKING KANSAI-BEN WAIFUS
You're a genius, my friend.
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>>376337852

He's my favorite persona protag
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>>376339267
México
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>>376339267
A prison. They're copying Jojo so might as well go all the way.
>P3 and Stardust Crusaders: Dark and serious stories with worldwide consequences
>P4 and Diamond is Unbreakable: Slice of life murder mystery in small quiet town.
>P5 and Vento Aureo: Criminal gang.
Now they need P6 to be like Stone Ocean and take place in a prison.
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>>376337394
>>376337847
>>>/u/
fuck off cunt
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https://youtu.be/1q34aIo8AfQ
>yfw you heard this
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>>376345692
P5 already kinda did the whole prision thing in a non-literal way
So it kinda is like parts 5 and 6?
that would mean P6 would be part 7
I for one am more than okay with a western theme
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>>376339267

Hokkaido. You get the comfiness of Inaba but still have city life as well.
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>>376339267
Another semi-rural town like Inaba. P4 was comfy as fuck.
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>>376339267

I don't care where it takes place, but I want them to do something different. I'd like a game that has the tone and feel of 2, along with adult characters, but uses the mechanics introduced in 3, 4 and 5.
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>>376337390
>>376335364
We've had three games worth of a similar Bildungsroman narrative starring a young boy

It reminds me of gainax's anime output, where EVA clearly feeds into FLCL, which clearly feeds into TTGL as a sort of thematic series

If the last three persona games were closer to that pattern, what we need now is the Kill la Kill of persona games
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>>376335213
I want P5 FeMC to be alternate reality Futaba, with neet Joker taking her place
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>>376331158
>You guys ready for Persona 6?
my nutter is already damn dry due to these two

can it wait?
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>>376332715
I don't think they can top the music, ui, or premise, but the story and game play could use some more work
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>>376332786
I dont know.

I played all the persona games and evry sequel felt better than the game that came before it.

Autistic fags will just screech about subjective shit like the likeability of characters.
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>>376332715
>They set the bar way too high
That's the best part. From now on, any new persona games will need to have at least this much effort put into it.
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Jesus wtf do you expect they can't make a whole game on 2 months
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>>376348069
>2 months
Anon, the game has been out since last year
Are you retarded?
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>>376331158
But I need another 8 year break
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>>376332440
Well they just did red and black AGAIN so who the fuck knows
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>>376331158
They never announce things at the live shows.
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>>376339007
rehashing
Hashino

wew
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>>376332715
please, P5 was nowhere near perfect. shitty calendar system aside, Tokyo was literally just 5-7 hallways. everyplace you could visit was literally just a still image with the character models in the front. Akihabara was fucking underwhelming with literally nothing to do or any reason to ever visit besides stores.

I hope P6 lets us explore around more places in the real world in more meaningful ways
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>>376348176
>>376348069
One should also take into account that they already have demon models and an engine already set up to use for the next game. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if assets from Persona 5 are being used in the Switch SMT game they're making.
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Persona 6 in 2027 but with FFXV-like graphics with a huge Tokyo overworld. The games are already 13/10, at this point they would be 1000/10.
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>>376332440
white
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>>376332440
Green and Purple

If the protagonist is a girl, then pink and light blue
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>>376332967
Raidou exists IN the persona universe, just way back in the 60's.
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>>376349757
>but with FFXV-like graphics
Ew, who would want a game that runs at a really low resolution with a terrible draw distance and horrible framerate because they decided to stick one hundred million polygons per hairstyle?
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>>376349757
>but with FFXV-like graphics
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>>376349757
The graphical style in Persona 5 was already top notch. Why would you want to change it?
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What's special about this website again? I'm retarded someone spoonfeed me. Is a game going to be announced?
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>>376350280
I think he means just a better over-world. Shinjuku and Akihibara were just one street.
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>>376331158
I was upset nothing Elizabeth related happened in P5. Her going missing and her quest were the most interesting things in P4 and the arena games. Although saying that doesn't really mean much considering how boring both were.
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>>376350352
It's a live concert for Persona music. There might be an announcement.
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>>376334308
I prefer the characters and plot of P2, but unless you're playing the PSP port the gameplay is atrocious.
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>>376350409
>live concert for Persona music.
who the fuck would go to that?
There are like 3 songs in P5 that have vocal tracks that would be fun to sing to.
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>>376339519
>what is revelations: persona
Though granted, it would be interesting to see what a non-bowdlerized script would look like, but having played the above, I'll pass.
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>>376350514
They might do remixes of them with added Lotus Juice.
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>>376331158
I have hopes of a remake of P3 but I'm ready to face disappointment.

>>376350352
Last couple of concerts had persona related stuff revealed. The one that had the reveal trailer for P5 broke /v/ for a day.
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>>376350604
>Juice adding vocals to Blooming Villain and Will Power
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>>376350514
>3
Off the top of my head I think it's four. Might be five. You probably forgot "Beneath the Mask"
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>>376349949
He's in the 20s and he can time travel. He'll be in the P5 re-release, just you wait.
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>>376332715

>Set the bar way too high

Sir, please stop being blinded by the stylization. The plot and characters were severely lacking across the board.
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>>376339267
Nara
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>>376350356
I think it's better streamlined for that, especially for those of us who didn't want to use fast travel. There's just enough space to run around but not enough for it to be a slog getting places.

Although, I could see the appeal of a medium sized yet detailed town with a bunch of nooks and crannies where interesting stuff could be found, like in Yokai Watch. But a big sprawling overworld? No thanks.
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>>376350409
>There might be an announcement.
It is pretty much confirmed that Atlus is announcing something there since they already confirmed that more Persona games are planned this year and they dropped the first P5 PV at a Persona concert.
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Has there ever been a SMT game that happened in America? Closest I can think of is Strange Journey, which was a multinational team in Antarctica.
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>>376339267
Either Kyoto if you go to a preppy school or Hokkaido if you live another comfy bumpkin lifestyle.
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>>376331757
It made 2m sales. That shit will be rushed out just like Dark Souls II.

Probably a light-hearted mystery reskin like Persona 4 in the P5 engine.
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>>376347670
Ah yes the loli twin wardens.
Unless P6 attendants are shota, they will never topped it.
This is literally the peak of velvets.
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>>376351512
Persona 1 :^)
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>>376351204
A medium sized area would be good. But all of these are pretty much minor additonal improvements. It's not an essential, but it would be extra icing on the wedding cake.
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>>376351512
DDS2
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>>376351512
Catherine
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>tfw visual designer of Persona 5

>You set the bar like Mitsuda set the game music bar in Chrono Trigger.

How will he coast off being at the top the rest of his life?
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>>376332715
P5 has some issues late game. I thought its mid/late dungeons and story could have been better
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>>376352228
The only dungeon that really bothered me was Okumura's. That one I actively disliked.
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>>376352228
It did get draggy near the end. They need to add mini dungeons that are not big shot syndacite dudes. I'd like to see some pacing spread out with the team tackling more Kamoshida tier baddies in mini dungeons
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>>376345692
Can you Jojo faggots go away?
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>>376331158
Persana
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>>376332715
By actually giving a fuck about the story perhaps.
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>>376352228
>>376352381
>>376352474
I think Persona 5's biggest problem was trying to follow the structure of Persona 4 instead of creating their own. 4's is too formulaic and the story they created could have used a little more time to be told, or like what was already said, resize some portions
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>>376348348
Nobody cares about the first three games.
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>>376332715
they'll make it a more character based rather than story based game so that the style difference will cause some people to like it more than p5. basically it'll be like how p3>p4 was.
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I hope they stop rehashing the transfer student trope. I want my character to have a family with a cute imouto social link, childhood friend social link, embarrassing mom social link and not having to leave town a year later because bullshit reason.
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>>376352848
Mementos was a step in the right direction but it felt so lazily done. That needs to be expanded on big time. I really like how they mixed in the p3 and p4 dungeon styles but mementos suffered because if this
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>>376353420

>(42)
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>>376353420
Transfer student works well because it allows both the player and the character to get introduced to the setting as newcomers, instead of trying to pre-establish relationships.
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>>376353420
They have to have a reason for MC to leave at the end of the year. Other than death.
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>>376353574
They can do the same thing with a family and the MC's hometown with the handy dandy JRPG tool of amnesia
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>>376353420
They should have the protag live with a single mother and his dog.
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>>376332440
Hope it's green. And they do a hospital/terminal disease theme.
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Expect the Attendant in Persona 5 to be named Shelley, since all the other Frankenstein-related names have been used.
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>>376353686
or the tried and true hentai setup of "my dad just remarried and then fucked off to america for a year"
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>>376331158
>Implying there will ever be a P6 before they make 3 anime adaptations of P5, an enhanced edition, P5 Arena plus two more spin-offs, and a 2 year delay after P6 is announced
>Being this new
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>>376339417
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Lotus Juice is coming back, right?
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>>376353951
I imagine they'll push all of that out over the next 5 years and then P6 will be out for the 25th anniversary.
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>>376353951
Persona 4 came out two years after #3. I'm expecting Persona 6 some time in 2020.
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>>376354078
Not a chance in hell.
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>>376354167
You have too much faith in Atlus. They require a year delay, minimum.
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>>376354078
Please no. I like to actually understand what the english in the lyrics say.
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>>376332967
I just want to play as him one more time, is it too hard to ask?
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>>376354078
I hope.
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>>376332715
P5 has a lot of problems and I consider it a personal 10/10. They could work on adding more actual game length, more things to do in the overworld, and having less padding at the beginning.
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>>376354463
Are you kidding me? Lotus Juice has much clearer pronunciation than any of the ladies.
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>>376354474
Honestly with Atlus now having this HD engine and a bunch of HD demons now at their fingertips they might go all out with HD games like they did during the PS2 era.
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>>376350409
They more or less confirmed that there will be announcements. Not to mention that there was that one musician who accidentally let slip that he worked on tracks for the P5 dancing game.
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>tfw you will never see a mature persona game again
>tfw they squandered their own story by making it a FUCK ADULTS shitshow instead of having the main theme of the game be what it means to actually kill someones shadow
>Instead of natural tension between the characters we get literally zero party arguments in a team full of "rebels"

>everyone is constantly hunky dory about literally mind raping people, never is it questioned or looked into deeper
>instead of making akechi an interesting character they fucked it all up in the last second by making him cry his entire life story out right before you kill him


>that lazy attempt at a final big bad with that asspull igor reveal
What the fuck atlus.
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>>376354603
This is true. I could understand about half the lyrics in Rivers in a Desert. And every time she says desert it sounds like dessert.
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>>376353420
>>376353686
>I want them stop rehashing cliches I don't like and rehash cliches I like
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>>376355075
I feel you but P3 put the series on the map. I don't mind this animu shit as long as it's fun and the music is good
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What kind of premise, theme or setting you want to see next game?
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>>376347053
>>376339267
An even more rural town than Inaba. Totoro levels of comfy.
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>>376355378
I really love persona 3, it got me into the SMT series. It's story is had simple themes, but it was still dark with very impactful final months. Whereas in this game I felt that they tried way too hard to simulate that same boss battle, but with ZERO of the buildup that made 3 so good.
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>>376355218
A REEVER IN A DRY LAND
THE LASS ACE IN A LOSS HAN
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>>376355075
>everyone is constantly hunky dory about literally mind raping people, never is it questioned or looked into deeper
Well, they did actually bring that up a few times, but I do agree that the protag's group should have reflected on it more. Kind of stupid that only the villains really said that it's outright evil to do so, but the Phantom Thieves don't really say much against those claims other than "NO U". I think they do make a rebuttal with the fact that they're trying to help people suffering from the abuse of those whose hearts they stole, but that's just like once in the game that I can actually remember.
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>>376331954
man, i wish one of my friends that stopped speaking to me would ask me to go to a weeb vidya concert
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>>376355075
It wasn't really an asspull. They reference the "game" repeatedly throughout the story.
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>>376355075
>fucking adults
If that's what you got from the game then I am literally wasting my reply on you right now. Also they questioned themselves multiple times one of those times led to the fucking cat go full stupid.
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>>376355075
>Guaranteed Bait
Here your (You)
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>>376355075
Persona 5 should have had the villains become less and less 'evil' as the game went on until you go after someone that's hardly a problem
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>>376349757
>people would actually like this
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>>376355890
Yeah, it's only very briefly touched upon but when they did it was simply saying "phantom theives r bad" instead of what should have been. They are literally mind raping bad people, this is just as bad if not worse than murder because the person left behind is "punished" for wrongdoing that they didn't commit, that was their past self that committed it. There could have been some really interesting dynamics that comes from that.

>>376356154
>If that's what you got from the game then I am literally wasting my reply on you right now.
You mind telling me what the big lesson here was? Laziness is bad and humans shouldn't resort to inaction because they do infact have the power to make change? That was only the theme for the last dungeon. Up til then it was actually just fuck adults.
>Also they questioned themselves multiple times one of those times led to the fucking cat go full stupid.
Somewhat, but it was for terrible reasons. Cat was mostly mad because he felt useless. Again they touched on it for a second then forgot about it.
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>>376335213
knock off this 'crimson' shit, it's like 'kerfuffle' except less funny
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>>376356416
The only problem with that would be the issue of Palaces only being created by someone with an extremely warped perception of reality. Not really sure how to make someone like that morally gray. Mishima's slink kind of touched on that idea, though.
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>>376353420
>Whole family (Consisting of hardworking dad, Housewife mom, and moe imouto) moves to NEW AREA because dad got a new job
>Dad can only be S. Linked on Holidays/weekends, Mom can only be S. Linked at Night, and you can play with your imouto after school on weekdays and all day on weekends
>Childhood friend sees you off to new land, you were getting kinda distant in your last few years of residence in OLD AREA
>You stay in your school's dorms most of the time.
>Childhood friend who watches you leave town coincidentally also moves to the same school for BULLSHIT REASON
>Childhood friend (assumably a male to be the bro character) relies on you to help him adjust to the city, and your friendship rekindles
>Can't talk purse owner stuff at school, base camp is at your family's house and your mom thinks its just some chuuni rp or something and goes along with it sometimes, constantly talks about your childhood (Childhood friend chimes in sometimes)
>Ending has you go to college or something which will let Atlus have another forced bittersweet ending that gets shat on by the multitude of spinoffs

Thoughts?
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>>376356802
Will there be a female banchou bully that you'll need rank 3/4 guts to stand up against and learn that she actually has a soft side feeding stray cats and a room full of animal slushies?
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>>376350514
>who the fuck would go to that?
enough people for them to do it several times
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>>376357015
I meant plushies
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>>376353420
>42
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>>376355671
I wouldn't mind a setting where the apocalypse happened. The land is filled with shadows and the sky is filled with angels, and you're a teen who wasted his life on vidya and shit. After things go really south you're saved by Lucifer and given the chance to go back a year, get your shit together, and stop the calamity from happening. Some point through the game you would get velvet room'd and as the current trickster. or whatever you want to call him this time, you're able to use the resources of both until you're forced to side with Lucifer or Igor.

As for your Personas, Igor offers a traditional experience but Lucifer forces the fusions onto your default, mutating it into possibly thousands of different combinations so for example your persona if fused with Jack Frost would gain his hat style and perhaps his face and other smaller features, change of colour in places, stuff like that.
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>>376356705
>They are literally mind raping bad people, this is just as bad if not worse than murder because the person left behind is "punished" for wrongdoing that they didn't commit
They're not mind raping them, they're making it so they can see the wrong in what they've done. It's akin to diving into a sociopath's head and flipping the switch that allows them to feel empathy. There is no old Kamoshida and new Kamoshida, there is just Kamoshida who is now able to understand what his actions meant for others.
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>>376331158
P6 predictions
>Door-kun is released
>Other!Tatsuya returns
>Adachi is main character
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>>376355671
Theme : games, sports, competition between youths
Premise: a strange tournament between persona users throughout the year
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>>376357472
I think its up for debate, they are removing "bad" aspects of that person and only leaving the "good". I think this is most evident in the tower social link where you "fix" his mom; who was only sort of a bitch and just complained a lot. One could argue that it isn't the same person if you remove parts of a person's psyche. You're still changing these people to be completely different than before.
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>>376357729
>it's a tournament arc except that's the entire game
Fuck no.
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>>376357015
Definite maybe
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>>376331757

persona 4 released only two years after persona 3, 5 only took forever because they redid the engine. we'll get another legit persona game in the next three years for sure, but p7 probably wont drop for like 10 more
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>>376357363
So how would this connect to the previous ones, aren't 3, 4 and 5 in the same world
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>>376356705
The only one who went fuck adults was ryuji and with a good reason too. The main theme of persona 5 is not even about the whole humanity is lazy. Its rather about breaking the chains of society that hold you back and another one is that dealing in the past brings bad outcomes. I am surprised that out of the many times it was beaten to your head the only thing you got is fucking adults. Re play the game with a different mindset and maybe you will get it and I am sure you one of those fuckers who used fast travel out of the ass and didn't listen to the rumors and multiple NPCS stories throughout the game telling you the same thing.
But let's just go with your narrow minded view point and yeah the whole story of P5 was fuck adults.
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>>376357729
What's the external threat/social commentary?

>>376357849
You're not removing part of their psyche, you're removing the subject of their obsession. Ever heard of Cognitive Behavior Therapy? Without the thing that's distorting their cognition, they become more aware of their actions and can no longer justify them.
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>>376357636
>No wanking off to previous games
>Original setting and story disconnected from the other games
>Male villain that fujos cling to who later gets redeemed in spinoffs/rereleases
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>>376357849
You can think of it as magically accelerated cognitive behavioral therapy.
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>>376356802
>Childhood friend (assumably a male to be the bro character)

Hell no, gotta be a girl so i can make the childhood friend actually win for once.
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>>376357931
This is set in the past, before those games even happened. Preferably either in the 50's or 80's or if it's preferable in the far future but personally I'd like to think it all already happened and by the time P3 rolls around the P6 MC is a grizzled old man still fighting.
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>>376332715
They get someone who can actually write a story
The UI and gameplay improvements of P5 are masterful, but the dialogue and characters are far from the best the series has had. All it would take is a good story and possibly some innovation in the way S.Links get incorporated into the main story to top P5
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>>376353420

I want one of the following

>College student
>Female highschool exchange student
>25 year old office worker / salary man
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>>376355671
Highschool setting but you're the teachers
College
Police academy
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>>376357928
They redid the engine several times over. Originally, or at least once upon a time, Catherine's engine was going to be used for P5.
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>>376358069
I could see that happening. Maybe the Childhood friend could have an older sister and a younger brother and the older sister could be a party memeber, too.
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>>376357636
You're never going to get something like that in a main entry unless Wada goes full retard. Shit like that is reserved for spinoffs.
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We'll just take the best of both worlds and make a trap MC. Everybody wins!
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>>376356416

They kind of did.

>I physically and/or sexually abuse kids for my own self aggrandisement
>I steal the work of young adults and sell it as my own
>I'm a loan shark
>I run a business a bit too harshly
>I'm a female prosecutor in a sexist Japanese culture and reeeeaaaalllly desparate to win
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>>376357951
Are you kidding me, literally every single character except akechi had multiple "fuck adults" lines. In regards to the themes, your first one is pretty much the same as the one I said, your second theme I don't really understand.

I played the game for 125h, I read a lot of the npc text and most of it was useless. I love the game but come on, you're just making assumptions on how I played.
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W-what if God is a good guy in this one
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>>376358751
God is always the good guy.
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>>376358298
>They get someone who can actually write a story

The issue wasn't that. The issue came from great ideas and some great character interactions but a whole lot of dropped balls and missed opportunities.

Akechi could have been a AAA character. Tragic and a demonstration of teenage killers, having to present a psychotic persona to deal with the guilt and stress of killing.
Haru could have meaningfully contributed to the plot. Or hell, SHE could have been the traitor after blaming the group for her father's death.
More could have been shown of Makoto and Sae's frayed relationship.
The moral ambiguity of stealing hearts could have been fleshed out more.
The finale could have lasted a lot longer than christmas freaking eve.

However, the plot as a whole was solid.
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>>376358012
Having fun, enjoying youth, finding your talent and nurturing it vs whatever issues in sports and games that we have in society
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>>376358571
>I'm a loan shark
Who threatens underaged girls into prostitution.
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>>376355671

Theme: Youth, Growing Up, The eternal nature of bonds, and tokusatsu
Premise: Jormungand, the infinite serpent born of mankind's forgotten/abandoned memories, desires, and hopes, has begun growing at an exponential rate and its energies starting to seep into the physical plain, afflicting people with a disease dubbed Snakebite Syndrome in which the depressed/hopeless are stricken by incremental paralysis before eventually becoming stone.
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>Persona 5
>Persona 5 Dancing All Night
>Persona Q 2 on Mobile phones
>Persona 5 Arena
>Re-release of Persona 5 on PS4 with Makoto 20 hour long side story
>Second Re-release of the game on the Nintendo Switch with a new girl that gets hamfisted in to the story.

Then you'll get Persona 6.
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>>376339267

It would be cool in a industrial depressed russian town.
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>>376358012
>>376358059
If what they are doing is akin to instant-therapy, it still raises the question of morallity. Can you force an instant fix on someone without their permission? I'm still not convinced that it's just simply instant-therapy though, I don't think it ever really delved into what they are actually doing outside of making them have regret for their actions.
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>>376359103

>Their Personas are summoned by Cold War-era KGB Psy-ops equipment
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>>376356712
Neither Sae nor Futaba were evil. I will say, though, that I'm not a big fan of the way they set up palaces.I don't think I really have a reason for it, I just prefer something else.
I think they strayed too far from the 'thief' part. I wish you could have pulled off semi-real heists where your actions in the 'other world' would result in something being taken from the real world. Or maybe reality and the other world would mix in locations where you can start a heist.
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>>376332440
>>376339267
>>376355671

Persona 6
>Color : Green
>Arcana : Moon
>Core theme : Dream, Bliss, Fantasy, Illusion, Nightmare, Despair
>Initial Persona : Fairy Tale characters
>Ultimate Persona : Deities of knowledge, wisdom, enlightenment, and craftsmanship
>Main location : Small village network in the deep mountains, complete opposite of P5's urban Tokyo, far more rural than P4's Inaba
>Persona summoning : Book or script
>VR Room : Massive library with fireplace
>VR Attendant : Librarian woman is her 40's named Agatha

Japanese VA :
>Hiroshi Kamiya
>Daisuke Ono
>Mai Nakahara
Above is the main trio
>Nozomu Sasaki ("Mascot" of the group)
>Yukari Tamura
>Yuichi Nakamura
>Saori Hayami
>Ai Kayano
>Takahiro Sakurai
>Norio Wakamoto (Villain)
>Atsuko Tanaka (VR Attendant)
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>>376359202
Know that feeling after masturbating to really sick porn where you are disgusted with yourself and can actually think clearly for a few minutes? The targets were all in an endless wank until the phantom thieves made them come.
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>>376359103
I would personally dig a Slavsona
Cheeki-breekidyne
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>>376359551
Pretty good. Wasn't Persona 4 Moon though?

Also the Velvet Room Attendant will have to be named Shelley. Every velvet room person has been named after a character from Frankenstein, and Shelley is the last unused name.
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>>376353420
This, I want something different than lol, here for a year. Would be nice to have a wide range of party members. Hell, if you go with the family setting, how about your mom or dad become a party member?
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>>376359551
>Norio Wakamoto (Villain)
Stop. Look, I know Wakamoto's fun, but he has no business being in something that requires acting.
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>>376359732
>Wasn't Persona 4 Moon though?
No. Persona 4 is Temperance

>Also the Velvet Room Attendant will have to be named Shelley
Agatha is also a character in Frankenstein though. I choose the name because it has some mysterious air to this one.
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>>376332309
Series will go downhill now you mean.
We'll probably be stuck with the faggot behind Arena and DAN now.
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>>376359551

Huh, I like it. Feels like it's got the potential for some real Innsmouth level shit.
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>>376355075
The calendar system doesn't allow the game to tell a good story with good pacing and most people only play this game to self insert in an anime and relive highschool.

Persona will never have a good story again until it goes back to being like Persona 2, but it won't ever do that because P2 wasn't popular.
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>>376332440
>>376339267
Ultra rural town with a deep forest green color scheme on silver and an infinite forest vs infinite dungeon.
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>>376359997
Wilderness/Into the Woods would be a pretty cool theme, although it runs the risk of moving too far away from SMT's dungeon design being based on modern places instead of ruins or nature.
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>Ohya, an actual interesting and well written character is the least popular character in the game because people don't want to stick their dick in her
>Kawakami is a gigantic retard and is immensely popular because "oh she's so cute and wears a maid outfit"

That should tell you all you need to know about modern Persona games, they're written for the fanbase and all the fanbase wants is pandering.
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>>376360190
Most people don't like the way she looks as Becky though.
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>>376359997
Can it have Havest Moon elements as we force demons to grow crops for us?
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>>376360190

Ohya's underrated but I really wouldn't go as far as to call her well written.
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>>376332440
Green. Fitting for Four Temperament start from P3.
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>>376359067
>Persona Q 2 on Mobile phones
How exactly are you gonna have an ass-pull for the P5 cast meeting P4/P3? Doubly so when Naoto and Rise are now full-on into their careers?
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>>376358571
>I'm a loan shark
who also has is own gang and uses blackmail
>I run a business a bit too harshly
and care for my daughter so little that i sell her for influence
>I'm a female prosecutor in a sexist Japanese culture and reaaaaallly desperate to win
she probably rigged cases against the defendants
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>>376359067
Don't forget Persona 5 Goro Akechi
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>>376360443
You know how the last PQ game went, right? It took place in the middle of both games and they were all the same age. They'd just do that again.

The game was just an excuse to get the Persona 3 and 4 cast in its entirety to mingle with each other anyways, I can't see Atlus missing out on the opportunity to shove Persona 4 and 5 together like that.
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>>376360443
muh cognition
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>>376360714
Fuck that. Give me 3 and 5. Imagine the stupidity of Junpei, Naruto and Yusuke. Yousuke was just a little too smart to be in the same tier as Junpei and Naruto, sadly.

And then they pull out their cell phones and Junpei is amazed by how smart their phones are.
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>>376339267
Another small town. Persona 4's location was GOAT.
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>>376349373
I was thinking about this for a while and I'm not sure I agree. I don't think P5 would've benefited from a more elaborate world because you just end up fast traveling from location to location anyway. It would be a waste of development time.

Case in point: the huge subway system they have is basically unused after the first day and one main quest.
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>>376360990
Speak for yourself. I never fast traveled.
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Hey for the casino, is there any penalty for cheating with the rigged dice game as opposed to doing it normally? Normal method is slow.
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ITT: People suggesting "Sequel to most successful Atlus game" take inspiration and queues from shitty series that sold nothing

>DDS, Raidou, SMT, DeSu fags all shut the fuck up
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>>376361153
No.
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>>376361153
You're expected to cheat. Pick 13-18 each time for best results. You can only do it so many times.
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>>376339267
Motherfucking Akita.

Beautiful girls with a retarded dialect.
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>>376361153
You're supposed to rig the games to your favor, you can never win if you don't because the games are rigged for the house to always come out on top.
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>>376360190
>>376360356
Is her link good? I stopped after rank 2 because her rewards didn't seem useful to me
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Why not use press turn? Seriously it would add more complexity to the game and make it more like smt
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>>376339267
They really need to make the move to college or something. Their playerbase is getting older and normalfags won't be able to waifu teenagers in good conscience for long. I feel like that's why there are so many cakes in P5.
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>>376361190

>DeSu
>sold nothing

Are you retarded?
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>>376361153
Of course not. The story expects you to cheat. You didn't do an entire sequence just to play legit.
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>>376361308
The skills are useless but her story is good. She's unveiling a coverup and needs courage.

She'll probably get genderswapped if they make a FeMC version though.
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>>376361360
Will that series get a 3rd game?
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>>376361246

Goddamn, that looks comfy as fuck.
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>>376361360
Yes, tell me how Yasuda garbage has sold anywhere near Persona
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>>376354782
>they might go all out with HD games like they did during the PS2 era.
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>>376361308
Her story is interesting and I like her personality. She sees right through Akechi's bullshit too if you talk to her after you supposedly "died". I found that really refreshing because every other character goes on and on about how great he is, it's annoying especially since Naoto, a similar character more realistically got a bunch of shit from the police for being a kid and showing them up.

>>376361342
I don't really think that matters. None of the older females are really even remotely popular and the only character that seems to have gotten the "I feel bad for waifuing her" reaction is Futaba, who is half pushed as your little sister anyways.

If you played Persona 4 when you were the same age as the characters you'd be mid 20's now, that's kind of too old to be dating high schoolers but P5's fanbase is doing it just fine.
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>>376361820
>implying High Schoolers aren't the best to date regardless of my age
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>>376331158
>Persona 6
More like the first wave of 5 spin-offs.
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>>376335213

I'm fine with it, but they best be making some yuri links. The only man who will penetrate my FeMC's cunny is Yusuke.
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>>376335213
>>376362471
>yuri links
Need dis.
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>>376362471

Yusuke is too pure for that.
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>>376331158
when will P5 hit rock bottom like P4 did?
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>>376362659
Wait for the spin-offs.
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>>376362659

when we're still getting spin off games 5+ years from now.
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>>376361820
Why is that woman eating piss and shit?
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>>376362659
The P5 cast is too one-dimensional to be ruined
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>>376352019

The Persona 5 UI is busy and unintuitive as fuck, he could start by actually learning a thing or two about UX before Persona 6
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>>376335213
>>376335364
I kind of think unlike Persona 4 the excuse "The story is made for a male character" is kind of valid this time.

You'd need to change how she got arrested, Kamoshida would react completely different to a female protagonist. The character is ostracized from their classmates for being a thug but would they react that way to a girl?

Also you'd need a ton of new male social links and/or you'd need some of the girls to play for both teams. Right off the bat you probably wouldn't be able to romance characters like Oda and Tora, for example.

I know P3 allowed you to romance Ken but Oda directly tells Joker he thinks of him as his older brother so if you kept the same link you'd be his older sister instead.
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>>376335213

>Potentially destroying Tora's career prospects
>Ken Amagi 2: /ss/ Boogaloo
>Being Yusuke's eternal muse while he bums lunch money off of you
>Getting swole with Ryuji
>Being the Snacks to Mishima's Moot

Damn, FeMC already sounds really fun.
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>>376362783
i love it
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>>376362783
Are you joking? It's one of the best I've seen, period.
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>>376362783
How is it unintuitive or busy? There's only about 4 colors and everything is an easily navigated list.
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>>376362821

Women get ostracized worse for being criminals/delinquents in Japan.
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>>376339519
hopefully you cant travel bc the metro breaks down and sets on fire or you get mugged by some youths in anacostia
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>>376362607
Luckily my FeMC will be just impure enough to resolve that.
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>>376362821
I agree about how the narrative would get broken.

For romances, I think swapping Ohya and Chihaya's genders would work.
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>>376362281
I mean, I guess that's sort of my point? I don't think the game needs to make the cast adults because their fans would be too embarrassed to romance teens. Look at how hard they tried to fetishize two of the adult women, Tae and Kawkami too

>Masochist doctor with punk rock aesthetic that is very open about having sex with you.
>Homeroom teacher that's deeply submissive and requires protection from the MC, flipping the dynamic of what a teacher-student relationship should be. Also she wears a maid outfit.

and yet they're still behind all of the main party girls in popularity.
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>>376332715
>inferior to 2 and 3 when it comes to story
>inferior to 2 and 4 when it comes to cast
>inferior to 3 and 4 when it comes to OST
>inferior to 3, 4, 1 when it comes to even difficulty
Only thing 5 does better than its predecessors is dungeon design and even that fails with some of the late game dungeons being as bad as 4 (like the final one) and Mementos is worse than 3 because at least you could change the music and the dialogue was optional and wouldn't get cut off every time you perform an action. The final boss is also shit compare to the Queen Asura and Nyx.
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>>376362659
Personally I don't think the spin-offs ever got that bad.

Though Ultimax came close.
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>>376362821
It'd be a lot of work but it would justify a re-release at a $60 price tag.

A few new social links wouldn't be enough for me to rebuy it but a FeMC would.
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>>376362830
Don't forget about cozying up to the ex-Yakuza and saving Akechi-kun.
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>>376362821
Honestly the amount of work Atlus would have to do is likely far more than they would want to do for an enhanced version. Hashino was also pretty blunt about it since Joker was decided as male from the initial concept stage just like Yu while P3 played with gender selection for quite a bit before going with a male MC.
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>>376362972

There's tons of visual clutter on the main menu screen, it's hard to even tell how much money you have the first few times you open the menu since there's no real organization or indication of where to look. The organization of some of the menus could be better too, Stats should have been Party to more easily indicate that you look up information for all of your characters there.

I love how the battle and shop UIs feel but the main menu is a big headache
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>>376363085
The thing is I think the rest of the game would work just fine but the entire first arc and the reason you get arrested don't really work with a female too well. I mean if you're a female Kamoshida would probably be trying to get with you and take advantage of the fact that you're on a "one more strike and you're out" policy. Also Sojiro probably would react to having a female under his care differently as well.
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>>376363224
>saving Akechi-kun with the power of love
Yes!
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>>376363224

>Iwai taking FeMC out to teach her proper gun discipline
>Akechi and FeMC giving each other smiley pancakes And then him swooping in to help the Phantom Thieves against Yaldy
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>>376362821
>implying /ss/ between otouto and onee-san isn't the best kind anyway

As far as girls playing for both teams, could easily see it with most of the party minus Ann at least.

>The character is ostracized from their classmates for being a thug but would they react that way to a girl?
Yeah, went on a little rant about that very thing last night. The very fact that many people just go "pfft, a teenage girl getting charged with assault? Noway." already proves that a Fem!MC in that same situation would be given a benefit of the doubt not given to a male Joker.
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>>376363131
God, absolutely everything is wrong, especially because you included 3 and 4 and not only 2, not sure if bait or not.
Also
>P3's story or final boss
>good
you're a funny one.
The only good part of this game is the ending, which is stellar, everything else is average at best.
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>>376363371
Isn't your money just in the top corner? I don;t think it would have hurt to have stats in Party, but it's is it's not difficult to find out it's in Status. The two could have been better labelled, but the organization of the menu is still fine. I really don't understand how you didn't know where to look, there's a big list in almost every menu and the only additional information would be your money, which is the only thing off to the side. I can't think of one time where I had trouble with the menus, I don't even remember where it showed your money because it wasn't something that seemed off or out of place.
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>>376363519

Considering the weight of Shido's influence behind the charge, that'd be grabbing people's attention. Plus, some parts of Japan are known for having much rougher girls than normal up to and including gangs and long-term targeted harassment.
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>>376363134
Ultimax was okay
Dancing All Night on the other hand...
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>>376363856
Shido's influence was used to distance himself from the incident completely though.
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>>376363548
Are you joking? The ending is an rushed mess. The P-studio just fit everything on the 24 because they run out of money. Oh but that's okay because Potter uses the power of friendship to gain a bullet to kill fake Igor in the most underwhelming boss in the series. Then the rest is just cutscenes of nothing. And yes Nyx is objectivity better because you had an entire month of build up filled up with nothing but atmosphere to it.
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>>376363917

Dancing All-Night plot was absolutely atrocious, but it could be as well considered non-canon and left at that.

As a rhythm game, it was pretty good.
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>>376363917
>Ultimax was okay
Remember when Sho was present for the entirety of Persona 4's story line and knew everything they had done even thought nobody ever saw him?

I sure do.
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>>376360190

the only she's unpopular for me is her Confidant abilities are useless since Security is never an issue at any point unless you opt to never hide from enemies for no reason. Virtually everyone else has something more useful.
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>>376364338
Who in their right mind would expect a dancing spin-off game to have an even decent plot?
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>>376363917
>>376364338
Dancing All Night and Ultimax had practically the same plot. While the contrivance of having to calm Shadows with the power of Dance was silly, I preferred Dancing All Night more overall because I found its side characters rather enjoyable.

Ultimax meanwhile... >>376364372 puts it well.
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>>376364564

It was horrible because it felt like it took itself seriously.
Instead of just going full retard and light-hearted, they just used all the washed-up tropes of idolfaggotry that Japan can't seem to stop stroking their dick to, and actually tried to make it coherent with Shadows and shit.

Obviously it doesn't work.
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So what would be the most hype, assuming that we're actually getting a glimpse of P6 instead of Persona 5 Dancing All Person?

>Not Set In Japan
>Not Set in HighSchool
>The MC is a girl
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>>376365274

All 3 at the same time.
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>>376365274
Only one of those things has even the slightest chance of happening.
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>>376364335
The importance of popularity in order to change the world is here during the entire game. Hell, Ann talks about it during the VERY FIRST palace. And Mementos being the collective unconscious of everyone make it coming from EVERYTHING but nowhere. If anything it's a logical ending to everything we saw in the game, including Mementos' door, etc.
>most underwhelming final boss in the serie
This title would go to Izanami or Nyx avatar. But more likely to Izanami which was just plain terrible as a fight. At least Nyx had the great seal fight/"cutscene" which was great. Which leads to the other problem;
And P3's last month were fucking empty, yes.. And not in an "atmospheric and good way". It was good for a while but it dragged itself for way too long.
P5's ending may not be perfect and yes, it is way too rushed, and the timeskip doesn't help, but it's still miles ahead of persona 3 in this regard.
Again, P3's end is stellar, and some very short scenes in december are great, but everything else is pretty much boring and annoying. It makes P5's ending and last part seem like a masterpiece.
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>>376365274
I know people give shit to the Japs for having shitty taste and shitty ideas, but the rest of the world has shit ideas too. Not being set in high school and not being set in Japan are dumb ideas for the series.
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>>376364372
Reminds me of Skullface from MGSV and how he said he was there for the entirety of MGS3 giving Big Boss.

It's a lot shittier with Sho though cause I at least got some funny edits out of Skullface with that plot point
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>>376365457
Considering the original creator seriously thought of doing a backpacker story where the MC would travel around the world at first, I don't think you could consider them "dumb ideas".
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>>376365346
Persona 5 was going to be a trip around the world at some point, but with Hashino gone we'll probably never see that.

Sad.
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>>376331954
>featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series

Is it bad if that's how I got into SMT to begin with?
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>>376365657
Better than me. My first exposure to the entire meta-series was a Yukari hentai doujin.
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>>376365274
>The MC is a girl
With all the self insert- and waifupandering the newer personas have sold themselves on, they would have to be mad to make the MC a girl. I'd really like to see them do it though.
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>>376365527
That would have been even dumber than a college setting, though I like how there was an emphasis on cars in the concept art. I'd be fine with a globe trotting RPG like that, but not for Persona, where part of its uniquity is it all taking place in one place, unlike most JRPGs that are these big adventures. Having Confidants/S. Links and the calendar system in a game where you're constantly moving all over the globe wouldn't work either.

Kaneko said Persona games should always be in high school setting anyway, plus it sells, so I doubt they'll change that.
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>>376365640
>Persona 5 was going to be a trip around the world at some point
Hey wow that would have made the cast actually feel like friends
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>>376365721
Was it by Darabuchi? It's okay if it was one of the ones by Darabuchi.
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>>376365849
>With all the self insert- and waifupandering the newer personas have sold themselves on, they would have to be mad to make the MC a girl. I'd really like to see them do it though.

I doubt it happens, but remember, one of the six MCs is "Christmas Cake who was the love interest in the previous game who died."
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>>376365894
More importantly, Black Mark could've been retconned back into canon.
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>>376365959
Hell no. Darabuchi is shit.

It was this one.
https://exhentai.org/g/51939/5dd09d64c5/
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>>376363107

I liked Tae a lot but Kawakami was a mess and the whole "lolmaid fetish" shit was a major annoyance. Her scenes when she was in normal clothes were actually pretty neat but all her maid scenes were garbage.
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>>376365274

Transfer students between Japan and America. You can choose either and get a different plot from each perspective with the MC you didn't pick becoming your Moon Social Link.
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>>376365894
How? Having to move about all the time would just be another element of the plot that would keep SoL moments from happening, which was the common complaint with the cast not feeling like friends in 5.
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>>376363131
I really loved the final boss, the arm shit was great
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>>376365894
Hawaii and Futaba's palace are actually leftovers from this.
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>>376363134
I want you to go look up the first five minutes of Q and tell me that's not the quickest you've seen a character assassination.
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>>376366054
Darabuchi in general isn't great, but his Yukari doujins are, except for one of them.
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>>376366086
Nigga if you're traveling together you live in close proximity to each other.
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>>376366082
So they'd have to make twice the settings and social links. Impossible.
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>>376365380
The entire game builds up to Nyx. It's literally why you kill all 12 shadows. causing a havoc around Port island. And underwhelming as in its a complete joke of a fight on Merciless and even Izanami was harder on Expert.
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>>376366031
He's canon in my heart
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>>376362821
>The character is ostracized from their classmates for being a thug but would they react that way to a girl?
Google sukeban.
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>>376365274
I hope that it's set in a specialty highschool. I was hoping that P5 would be in a highschool for teenage delinquents considering the theme, very sad when it wasn't. First thing that comes to mind is a fine arts school, would also fit with >>376360376
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>>376360376
How the fuck do you make an MC with the power to NOT do things?
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>>376365993
Newer Personas. Both of P2's protags are actual character
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>>376359428
Futaba's case was a request from Futaba herself, and Sae was arguably doing evil by forging evidence along with whatever other illicit means she used to further her career. Having said that, I think I understand what you're saying. They should have made Okumura less outright evil to further emphasize how much they fucked up by letting the public choose their next big target.
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>People don't want P6 to be set in Japan
For what purpose
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>>376366170
That doesn't mean they would just automatically feel like friends though. Most JRPGs are about a group going on an adventure, they don't all just have great relationships because they're always with each other, though.
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>>376366372
Yeah I thought Okumura's rocket was going be a representation of how he wanted to get away from society with his daughter and was only doing the fucked up shit so he could but nah it literally meant nothing beyond DUDE ROCKET SHIPS LMAO
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>>376366372
>Sae was arguably doing evil by forging evidence along with whatever other illicit means she used to further her career.
That's not evil, though. That's literally how the Japanese law system works.
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>>376366328

Make it a story about having to come to grips with the idea that world around you is changing and the only choices you're really left with are acclimating to it or trying to outright deny reality.
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>>376366491
>Everyone in this system lies and forges evidence
>So there's nothing bad about it
Nigga...
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>>376363507
>>376363224
Iwai is one of the links there's no way in hell you'll ever date ;_; because he's got a son that's around your age.
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>>376366597
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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>Implying there will be a Persona 6 ever
This series died with Hashino's departure. They will milk P5 for the rest of the generation and then move on something else, maybe that new re:fantasy RPG will become a franchise, or they wil start putting mainline on some consoles to make it relevant again.
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>>376349910

thanks doc
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>>376360521
>Persona 5: Eternal Punishment featuring Akechi Goro
The thought of it gets me hyped!
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>>376366228
LET'S GET FUNKY
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>>376366407

Because it could be a nice twist to the formula without changing it completely?

You know, like, trying something different. Not TOO different, but still different.
Could be nice.
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>>376366690

That's what they said about Kaneko leaving too, you know.
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>>376366690
It sounds like Atlus is planning to put Wada in charge with the whole "we plan to top P5 with P6"
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>>376366680
>If it ain't broke
But it is.
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>>376366690
The series actually died with Satomi's departure.
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>>376366690
Has Hashino said he's never touching Persona again? I know he's at Studio Zero now, but that's still part of ATLUS. I don't think there's anything keeping him from working on another Persona if he's interested, and I'm sure ATLUS would let him considering they make plenty of money.
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>>376366407
Because in a game about teenagers rebelling against society, it'd be easier to do that as an American where you can use actual guns, tell adults to fuck off without consequence, and not have to go to school on a fucking Saturday
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>>376366814
>Lowest crime rate in the world
hmm.....
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>>376332715
Sonybros are so delusional. How is growing up without mainline in your childhood?
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>>376366738
Ah yes, Joker and Goro, truly Star Crossed Lovers like Tatsuya and Maya.

Both good people tragically thrust apart by circumstances that none of them could have controlled
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>>376366372
It's not the public who chose the next target of the Phantom Thieves, it's Shido's party who tampered with the Phan-site and manipulated the internet opinion to push Okumura.
And they did so because thanks to Goro they knew he had a Palace so the PT would fall into the trap eventually.
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>>376366895
>Tatsuya and Maya
>Lovers
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>>376366834
No, but it sounds like Refantasy is something he has wanted to do for a while and I imagine the concept of backpacking will carry over to that. Hashino might return in 10 or so years, but he wants the freedom to work in a different setting for now.
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>>376366779
I know for sure that PS2/DS MegaTen is still the peak of atmosphere and design
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>>376366870
Easy to accomplish when your statistics aren't real.
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>>376337394
>women
>better protagonists
Name a single novel with a well-written female protagonist.
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>>376331158
Legit question, what stops them to do a remasters of P3 and P4 for PS4? It will sold like a hot cakes, just bump resolution, add something new and thats it.
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>>376366980
Jane Eyre
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>>376331757
P5 only took several years due to Atlus building a new engine for the game
P6 should be a pretty easy development that only takes 2-3 years max
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>>376366870
Almost certainly has nothing to do with how they prosecute people.

People don't commit crimes because they're, what, afraid the courts will frame somebody innocent just to make sure somebody gets caught? Not following the logic here.
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They're gonna announce Persona 6. You don't get how well Persona 5 sold. You don't get how well it did in the west compared to previous years. My fifty five year old boss mentioned it, and the only vidya he ever brought up before was Galaga.
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>>376366983
Atlus is throwing around the idea of a Persona 3 HD going by their survey, but P4 is still likely too new due to Golden.
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>>376366983
Nothing. In fact they might do it those sick bastards.
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>>376366953
I have no doubt he does, but that doesn't mean he'll never touch Persona again. It may take a while before it happens, but that doesn't meant he's totally cleaned his hands of the series.
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>>376366980
Miss Marple
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>>376367043
They've already ditched their internal engine for UE4.
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>>376366756
>not too different
For you maybe, but do you really think it'd be "not too different" for japanese people?
And the games are mainly done for them and you'd have to change uite a lot of things for it to be set in the US. Just look at the problems with Yukari's SL because it was heavily on the "japanese culture" side. In Japan, it being set in the US wouldn't be a "small" change.
And given what they said about P5 and its plot, they really want to cater to japanese problems (although funnily enough it seems that they're not aware of the fact that pretty much the whole world has them, just displayed differently)
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>>376367056
People don't commit crimes because they know they will lose in court.
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>>376367067
Link to survey questions? An anon told me they asked a lot about a Female MC
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>>376366983
Nothing. I'd also love a remaster for the whole series. P1 and 2 would be pretty great with not shit gameplay
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>>376367032
Don't meme me now, son.

>>376367106
>Agatha Christie
Jesus, what are they making you kids read in high school these days?
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>>376366690
>implying Atlus doesn't want money

P5 sold extremely well, and the word of mouth is just stellar, they can't afford to not release a P6
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>>376366581
>trying to outright deny reality

ONE MORE REALITY REJECTED
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>>376366983
If you mean remakes of P3 and P4 with P5 engine, this will never happen.
If you mean remasters/ports, there has been two of them for P3 and one for P4, oth with new content. That's plenty already, there's so much you can add to a decade old game.
Actually a game such as Nocturne is more likely to get the remaster treatment than any of the previous Persona
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>>376367163
You don't have to lose in court if you never get caught though
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>>376366980
Eowyn.
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>>376367169
http://personacentral.com/atlus-2017-online-consumer-survey-includes-persona-spin-off-hd-remake-questions/

> An anon told me they asked a lot about a Female MC

That anon lied to you.
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>>376366980
JUST AS KEIKAKU the novel has one
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>>376339267
Laughing my ass off at any response to this for outside Japan.
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>>376367204
Agatha Christie is good, retard. Early mystery is a fantastic genre.
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>>376366816
>this is still not out tin Europe

Goddamnit.
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>>376367269
P3 needs a definitive version with all the content from FES and P3P combined.
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>>376367062
Show him Strange Journey or Nocturne, he will love them.
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>>376367204
Fuck off /lit/, Agatha Christie is good shit.
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>>376367295
Has next to no inner conflict. More of an interesting setpiece character, and definitely not a protagonist.

>>376367304
Romance has never been well-written.

>>376367347
Sure thing, Reddit.
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>>376366690
Persona 5 is their most successful game ever, both in Japan and worldwide. At this point I'd be more worried about them killing off the main SMT series.
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>>376366953

ReFantasy is actually making me kinda sad.

Don't get me wrong, I get how hugely talented the team behind that is. But I get a huge hard-on for modern fantasy games, and there aren't really that many of them around.

Meanwhile, even if the writing is god-tier, the characters are good etc etc, a small part of me has been eating so fucking many Tolkien-ish settings over the years that I can't help but feel a bit sick every time I see one now.

Maybe it's a bit too early to judge, and they'll be able to come with something nice for the setting.

I might kill myself if it's isekai
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>>376367043
new engine, new assets, had to rewrite the script because the tsunami
and of course atlus not having the most money so they had to make P4 spin-offs in between
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>>376367352
https://twitter.com/AtlusUSA/status/861744664025612288
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>>376366676
>Implying that would stop a determined high school cutie from getting her ex-mobster BF
>Implying getting him and his son wouldn't be the best route
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>>376367204
Nah, they banned Agatha in public schools way before this SJW shit was popular because of "Ten Little Niggers"
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>>376367417
t. genre fiction pro
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>>376367417
>Gone with the wind
>Romance
Ah I get it you don't read
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>>376366937
It's canon though.
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>>376367541
I get it, you didn't understand the fucking book.
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>>376366980
The Lions of Al-Rassan

Actually Guy Gavriel Kay just writes women well in general. There's honestly tons of books with well written girls/women. I could list more stuff but you'd probably just reply with a meme.
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>>376367543

Tatsuya has stated that he doesn't feel that he's good enough for Maya.
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>>376339267
America, Los Angeles California
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>>376367446
>I might kill myself if it's isekai

I don't think it will due to Hashino making a big deal of Refantasy being Atlus first attempt at doing traditional fantasy. The concept art makes me think that the game may use the travel around the world plans that Hashino had for P5 with each city/town being an arc in the story.
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>>376367417
I agree, my man, fuck Pride and Prejudice.
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I doubt a new FeMC would top the GOAT
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>>376366980
Medea.

t. lit pro
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>>376367747
>inb4 fucking hipster
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>>376366904
True, but that was discovered after they went for the target that the polls told them to go after.
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>>376367747

LET'S

POSITIVE

THINKING!
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>>376367446
I'm not too interested in it either, but I'm sure it'll be good for what it is. I'm not looking forward to it, but I'll definitely be keeping an eye on it.
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>>376362783
>muh minimalism
>>>/g/

you do realize they actually managed to make combat commands flow so well
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>>376361342
>Their playerbase is getting older

College memers in Persona threads are so fucking retarded. Never ever just like your slut main character.
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The next persona will be set in Japan and the main character will be a male high school student. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a credulous moron.
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>>376368048
Fucking this.

I would love a game with a college setting, but I know it will never happen, and I'm fine with the high school setting.
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>>376368048
> Anyone who thinks otherwise is a credulous moron.
Seriously. I know P-studio made that huge comment about P6 topping P5, but P6 will probably be the safest title in the franchise because of the new director and Atlus not wanting to rock the boat.
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>>376367347
How the hell did they manage to fuck this genre so much since the golden age?
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>>376361342
>Their playerbase is getting older and normalfags won't be able to waifu teenagers in good conscience for long.
The game isn't made for western normies, but Japs. There's a reason why you aren't a first year or a third year in the game. Second year is literally the high point of their life for a lot of japanese people.
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>>376367462
By now, I'm pretty sure that Atlus hates us.
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>>376368048

the question is, where in japan?
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>>376367446
The idea of Atlus directly challenging Square-Enix and the other RPG bigwigs is making me extremely excited
Hashino's team hasn't made a single bad game in fifteen years, their track record is amazing, and there is absolutely nothing holding them back
I just really want to see what they come up with
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>>376367446

Isekai could be fine so long as it doesn't follow the tropes of the current webnovel/anime glut. There are lots of well told or interesting stories that use that the trope of someone from our world going to another one(Fionavar Tapestry, lots of Piers Anthony stuff, The Chronicles of Narnia etc.). That might be asking too much of Hashino given how everything in P5 was an anime trope played as straight as possible though.
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>>376368365
I'm actually hoping for a completely rural setting like a village instead of a town like Inaba.
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>>376368419
>Isekai could be fine
No, it really could not.
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>>376368365
Either go full on fucking rural ala Hinamizawa or something like Sapporo.
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>>376368419
Hashino's not a groundbreaking writer for that like Satomi (DDS duology and P1-2 trilogy)
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>>376367446
Don't mean to blog, but I'm super excited about Re:Fantasy since what Hashino has said about it strikes super true to why Isekai became a genre

I've been working on a "Anti-Isekai" Phoenix Wright style game for some time now - basically the premise is that it's a fully fleshed out fantasy world, but the antagonist and the sidekick are from our world.

In doing so I've realized that Isekai only became a thing in the first place because Fantasy had become so generic. Folks were tired of investing into what was essential Tolkien with words swapped around here and there, so they embraced a genre which had its world be generic almost proudly.

Isekai is still horseshit - but readers will only invest in a world if it's interesting. Isekai attracted the audience it did because sure, wish fulfillment, but also because Fantasy writers couldn't hack it.
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>>376368048
It will have gender choice like p3p
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>>376368638
Didn't Satomi just write Gale and the rest of DDS was by that girls who's writing Quantum Devil Saga now?
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>>376368419
Isekai in anime/LN is used as a mean of escapism most of the time
Isekai in P5 is the complete opposite, the alternate world is used as a mean to tamper with the real world and bring change to real life
The only anime tropes in P5 were Futaba and Haru, the rest is quite toned down compared to P4, and that's why some people are complaining in this very thread about "party chemistry" which is just a way to spell "anime SoL shit"
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>>376368365
Okinawa.
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>>376368752
She write the settings then left mid-way I think
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Persona 1 and 2 remakes on Vita.
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>>376368898
I know she didn't write for DDS2, but I was under the impression that DDS1 was all her.
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I don't actually give a shit about a FeMC unless they're THE MC
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>>376368583
Youjo Senki would be garbage if it wasn't isekai, so there's at least some good that came from the genre.
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>>376369050
Youjo Senki IS garbage
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>>376331158
>MORE PERSONA CANCER
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>>376369050
>Youjo Senki would be garbage
>would
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>>376368772
>Isekai in P5
I don't think you understand what that means. P4 is not isekai because they can jump into the world inside the TV and P5 isn't isekai because they can go to the metaverse.
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>>376369149
>the metaverse.
Also know as Isekai in Japan.
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>>376369085
Nah. It's hilarious watching a guy get thrown into increasingly worse situations because he wants a cushy desk job and god won't let him have it.
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>>376353814
man whatever anon brought that idea to light is brilliant, it would be so weird and cool.
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>>376353814
Never ever happening.
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>>376339267
I was kind of hoping they'd reuse the worldwide traveler theme they dumped for P5.
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>>376369048
where's our game
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>>376353814

I bet there'd be a group of antagonists that have the 4 riders of the Apocalypse as their persona and the boss who has trumpeter.
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>>376368651

What I find funny about this Isekai craze going on right now is that it's already happened before in the 70s/80s English fantasy scene with stuff like Magic Kingdom of Lannover/The Magic of Xanth. Given that the 90s was the start of a bunch of fucking gigantic and somber fantasy epics like The Wheel of Time/Song of Ice and Fire/Malazan Book of the Fallen I'm kind of curious where these stories will go in the future.

>>376368772

An Isekai novel in the context of Japan is specifically one where the the protagonist is sent to another world. The metaverse in P5 is not the same. P5 isn't an Isekai and I didn't try and say it was. I only brought up P5 because it's evidence that Hashino wouldn't do a good job with an Isekai because his stories are so bound to the standard tropes.
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>>376354297
P5 was a do or die moment for them. Now that they have brand new momentum (and a shit ton of cash) they'll push it as soon as possible. Plus, with Hashino gone I bet the new crew will want to prove themselves quickly/be less of stickler for the little shit as he was.

WHICH, may make the game not as great, but I still have faith.
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>>376369271
Oh, I misread your post as referring to the genre and not the noun. Sorry.
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>>376369612
Not him, I just answered that the metaverse is called Isekai in Japanese.
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>>376367446
I think Re:Fantasy will mix modern design and tolkien-ish settings. That's probably the whole "Re" aspect that has been tacked onto the project. The atmosphere will be deeply rooted in western undertones while borrowing from modern design in it's gameplay.

I'm thinking we're gonna be fighting dragons with guns.
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>>376332440
Transparent. Or grey.
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>>376365274
The MC dies halfway through and your highest ranked S link becomes the Protag
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>>376369560
You can pull in all the Fiend (except Dante and Matador) in Nocturne as the villains' Persona for that theme
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>>376353951
Atlus is no longer owned by a company constantly on the verge of going bankrupt, so we probably won't see as many spinoffs.
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>>376369548
The same place as Karkat's character development
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>>376365274

They show a scene where two social link characters are meaningfully interacting. That would honestly give me so much faith that they were looking at improving some of P5's flaws.
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>6
>not 5 Arena
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>>376361820
Akechi and Naoto are totally different though, Naoto was both socially inept and a woman in japan. Akechi is a charming and according to the game attractive young dude. He's a TV personality, Naoto's personality was a brick wall.
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>>376370160
>P5 Arena
>not P5 Arena trilogy
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>>376359903
So is P5 Justice then? P3 is obviously Death, right? I've never thought of each game having a distinct arcana to signify it.
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>>376351658

Hopefully not totally parallel to Dark Souls 2. I wouldn't necessarily mind a tonal shift as long as the writing was passable or better and the gameplay improved. Hopefully it's not a soulless corporate cash grab forced out by sullied hands.
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>>376370119
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>>376370284
>and a woman
Remember, the police didn't actually know this. The brick wall part is 100% accurate though.
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>>376370518
>tfw you actually forget Naoto was supposed to be a reverse trap
Woops
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>>376332967

That could honestly be done well. There are still Devil Summoners in the Persona time line right?

I wonder how all these events never seem to meet up somewhere. Especially Persona 5.
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>>376370738
Yeah. Persona and Devil Summoners share the same timeline. And the Raidous can jump between universe and time travel so who cares
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>>376370884

do you think Morgana was intentionally made to be like Raidou's cat? That thing was like his familiar right? What's it's origin?
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>>376371075
Yeah it was. Talking cat that only the protag can hear is a common trope in stories about exorcists so Raidou get one
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>>376371075
Gouto was a previous Kuzunoha that fucked up and his punishment was to mentor the future members of the Raidou line, as I recall.
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>>376366893

Unless they put mainline back to a proper console, its forever going to be irrelvant.
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>>376371456

That makes sense.

Although I still have a bunch of unanswered questions about Morgana. Like what made him forget about his mission, or why he was so...ecstatic about treasure.
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>>376371763
I think him being excited about Treasure was by design to draw him towards the Mementos Depths and him forgetting his mission was just because he was hastily made from the last of Igor's power. The latter is an assumption, but I'm pretty sure the former was explained ingame.
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>>376372130

I remember him saying his purpose was to bring them down into the depths of Mementos, so I think it's pretty plausible that it was something designed to motivate him.

Also, thinking back on it, that must have been when he awakened to his Persona right? I was wondering if he was a Shadow like Teddie was, because of the yellow eyes, but all of them did the yellow eyes this game. If it was I hope to see it some day, I'm curious what Morgana's 'vows' were.
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>>376359903
>Persona 4 is Temperance
ha ha youwhat
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>>376332715
How did they do, when P5 was just the same game as 4 with some improvements to dungeons and stile?
There's so many thing that could be improved in the series that they haven't since the start...
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>>376353458
>tfw tartarus was better than mementos in all aspects (except banter)
How could they fuck up this bad?
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>>376373023
>tartarus
>better than anything
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Anyone else want a PersonaQ2? I mean, the first one wasn't balanced at all and had a lot of issues, but a sequel could be great, especially if they bring in characters from one or tw-Ah, who am I kidding.
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>>376372130
>>376371763
I thought it was because he was atracted to humanity itself. He was basically created to fight against everyone being trapped in Mementos, and treasures were the one thing that allowed (non-persona) users to be free from it. Basically, a treasure symbolize humanity's hope (which is is himself) and individuality because of this, andevrything he looks up to. It's just that the treasure-possessing people in the game happen to take it a bit too far in their individuality and "goals/dreams"..
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>>376350369

elizabeth is still rying to free p3MC from being crucified in a doorway. at least she got a fool card.
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>>376373320
If they actually attempt to write a real story and don't butcher the characters every other second, I could go for it.

Not holding my breath.
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>>376345958
>Not even close to Kimi no Kioku
>but it's pretty good.
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>>376373320
Man I can't wait to have another cast being replaced with memes
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>>376366756
People play these games because it simulates shit in Japan and also the game is for Japanese teenagers. Sorry but your Hamburgers are gonna have to wait Apollo.
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>>376366816
I like Caligula's color scheme, I'll have to pick it up someday it's on sale.
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>>376373137
Tartarus IS better than mementos though, I mean they serve different functions but Mementos is less visually interesting, shorter, easier and even more lazily designed. I got through every section of Mementos in one trip and spent a month waiting for the next part to open so I could breeze through it again, it should've been more
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>>376373615
>>376373540
I don't really play EO games for the plot/characters generally, but that's true. They were especially bad in that.
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>>376373505
Doesn't Shido in the prison of regression claim that the palaces are basically there to isolate troublemakers of the metaverse disturbing yaldabla? I don't think these people were ever 'admirable' they're basically so shit nobody wants anything to do with them
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>>376373897
the difference is that mementos isn't where the entire GAMEPLAY section of the game takes place, unlike P3/P4. I seriously don't fucking understand how people like P3 and P4, I fucking hate them. The dungeons are all samey, simple, boring trash with samey simple trash generic shadow enemies.
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>>376374081
I don't think so, since you're aparently doing the bad guy's job by putting them back in. The party is even horrified at that for a while. The ones in palaces are the ones that "escaped". Basically, desires are good and allow you not to be a part of the hivemind but your own person, but too much of it is crap.
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>>376376214

Yeah, too much of it just makes you a monster. Or devil I guess.
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