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LOL
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>>376314061
BOTW looks so ugly.
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>>376314061
BTFO
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>this is the game nintentoddlers cream their pants for in our lords year of 2017
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>>376314061
It really is a ugly game nintendo ignoring tech for an entire generation shows in their "hd" offerings it really does :-X and its not even similar to the pictures at all pretty pathetic actually if they used those pictures as template.
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>>376314289
> :-X
You have to go back
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>>376314334
>hurr durr
indeed
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>>376314262

Have you even played it? It's honestly one of the best games I've ever played in my 35 years of living and I'm not a nintoddller.
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>>376314479
>you will never be this buttblasted at the existence of a funpost thread
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>>376314061
Hyrule Castle in BoTW >> Ganon's Tower in OoT
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>>376314479
WHAT THE FUCK SONYBRO? I THOUGHT HORIZON WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE ZELDA KILLER WE WERE FINALLY WAITING FOR.
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>>376314443
>It's honestly one of the best games I've ever played in my 35 years of living and I'm not a nintoddller.
Must feel pretty shit to waste 35 years on shit games. Why not just play good games?
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>>376314548
Hyrule castle>>>any dungeon

>>376314608
Yeah, the rest of the games up till BOTW are pretty shit desu.
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>>376314061
>"fortress" that doesnt have an interior, literally a retextured rock
>another shrine location
nintenbros digging their own grave here, if this is the best the game has to offer.

900 KOROK SEEDS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>376314061
>red sword in middle image
That doesn't make sense, the tempered sword in alttp is actually a decent weapon.
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Damn..... I knew Zelda was known for hard puzzles but this is..........woah.............
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>>376314774
Better get your eyes checked dude, the Tempered Sword is orange
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>>376314608

Name a better game than shitposter
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>>376314691
>Painting on the left doesn't have an interior because it's a fucking painting.
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The rivers of tears flow strong.
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>>376314882
>see that fortress? you can explore it!
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>>376314061
>Goes to the castle: There is nothing.
>Enter the cave: There is a shrine.

That's why noone takes Drones seriously.
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>>376315110
Not for nothing, but isn't he the biggest Kirby fanboy in the world?
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so what do I do with my switch now that I finished Zelda? All thats left to play is a port of a 3 year old wii u game.
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>>376314608

Such as?
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>>376315110
>Nintenbros super pissed about what a literal cuck thinks.
Really makes you think.
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>>376314875
Of course you will shill any garbage from nintendo.
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>>376315346
Someone is mad cause they got BTFO. Keep crying. Kek.
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>>376315474
(you)
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>>376315410
Wait for the next Nintendo masterpiece you stupid shitposting faggot.
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>>376314875
Half Life 2 you ugly fuck
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>>376315756
Jim Sterling is neogaf's favorite e-celeb. That should tell you how much of a cancer he is.
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I can't wait for the next awful and overrated "Open world cinematic masterpieceâ„¢"
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>>376315991
>MGSV
>Blunder
How deluded are you?
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>>376314479
Reviewers are allowed to have a negative opinions of games. It's not like there isn't a reason to dislike the game, but the negatives outweigh the positives in every regard for BotW
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>>376316092
t. Kojimadrone
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>>376314479
>Nintendo
>Even having the budget to pay reviewers

You're trying to hard sonybro
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>>376314875
Ok, alundra not only is it better its a better zelda game and has been now for years.
I also liked horzion more cause the enemies are much better designed as is the combat and the game even has enemy variation and isnt looking like a game two generations ago. Not to mention the stupid durability in the game, if you hated Dark souls2 durability lol zelda is a nightmare by comparison.. oh botw also had shit music and shit bosses. Pretty amazing actually how much they did wrong. In terms of open world it doesn nothing new and a alot of it worse than the competition from a decade ago, fucking skyrim and oblivion have more dungeon variety than zelda in looks lol.
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umm
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>>376314262
What are you talking about, it looks good.
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>>376315438
I don't care about Sterling, but I do care that Sterling is taken seriously by sites like Metacritic.

Then again, I don't care about metacritic either. It's literally only good for consolewar shitposting and discovering Big Rigs Racing.
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>>376314443
>and I'm not a nintenbro
you're not fooling anyone
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>>376314774
I think it's supposed to be a broken Master Sword.
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>>376316364
Jesus fucking Christ, I really hope you're trolling because if not, you are truly beyond hope.
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>got to play the game going in cold, and for free
>hated Twilight Princess; hated Skyward Sword
>generally dislike 3D Zeldas
>probably couldn't have been more unbiased going in
>it's legitimately good

If I can reach those grapes some of you anons can too.
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>>376316364
This is the most reddit sentence I ever read desu

>>376316550
I'm on CEMU and I agree
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>>376316092
>literally unfinished game
>not a blunder
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>>376315991
S-SHUT UP THE WITCHER IS PERFECT
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>>376314875
Dragons dogma was a better version of breath of the wild
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>>376317204
Lol
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>>376317204
I agree.
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>>376317204
came to post this
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I really like the salt Zelda is produceing
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>>376317204
Nah.
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>>376317204
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>>376317204
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>>376317204
Bad comparison. I 100% agree that DD is the better game, but the best part of BOTW is the huge open world and the freedom of exploration, namely the climbing.

DD's world is shit, it's about combat, not exploration. DD is better, but they're very different games so to say DD is a "better version" of botw is retarded
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I like Zelda.
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this is a good thread
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>>376317204
It had better combat, but BotW has a way better world and is more fun to traverse.
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>>376317786
Nice
How about some more edited chink cartoons?
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>>376319081
Okay
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Botw proved that the nintendo fanbase has never played a game outside of their consoles.
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>>376319347
Have you played BotW, Anon-kun?
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>>376319347
just like how this post proves that you've never played botw?
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>>376319347

You misspelled HZD
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why nintendo fantards so obnoxious?
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>>376319745
It's really hard for some people to admit they've made a mistake.
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LOL
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>>376314262
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>>376319347
Lol yup. The praise is such bs. I think it has something to do with not comparing it to other games besides Zelda ones.
As a game itself, there's nothing that special here. Game was average to me.

I seriously wonder where people were getting these 10/10 GOTY claims from. Either they've been playing mediocre shit for the past few years(which most games were) or they give biased scores.

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>>376319437
Are you gonna ask for a timestamped copy anons?
This is the first game I've seen where any feedback that's not praise needs a timestamp to prove they have it.
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Is there anything more pathetic than console war threads?
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>>376317204
only combat wise
exploration and the world is shit
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>>376319841
Making a physics playground game and adding Link to it doesnt make it revolutionary
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>>376319896
/pol/ threads on /v/
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>>376319896
Browsing /v/
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>>376314061
is that a castle drippling with shit?
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>>376319745
you made then like that with all the shitposting during 2013 to 2015

you harvest what you plant anon
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>>376320010
>muh pol

You do know that everyone on 4chan is political in one way or another, right faggot? Even /co/, one of the most cucked boards there is, is /pol/.
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>>376319882
>This is the first game I've seen where any feedback that's not praise needs a timestamp to prove they have it.
Dunno, usually when some claims about any game are made, someone will eventually ask you if you ever played that game.
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>>376316374
sauce?
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>>376319347
I agree. Although, I think it's still a very good game and I disagree with a lot of the criticism here.
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>>376319952
Gmod is more of a toybox though. Certainly fun to dick around with but BotW has actual goals and objectives to make it, you know, a game.
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>>376319882

>literally everybody but a cuck loves it
>hurr it's average who seriously likes this shit

Every time you just make a more convincing case to kill your self.
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>>376319952
Is not about making something new

is about perfecting something that was done before.
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>>376314061
That castle is just stairs to a ubishit tower and that cave has a shrine in it. Nothing else. Nice try tho nintendfags.
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>>376320232

Of all the stupid, weird, transformation fetish art I've ever seen, for some reason THIS one got me to laugh. Who comes up with this stuff?
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>>376320451

What's in the shrine?
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>>376314990
>full on dick moves

jum sterlin is a casual who hates challenge
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>>376314565
I love how people still think metacritic is relevant anymore. You poor lost souls.
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>>376314061
>what I actually got: FUCKALL TO DO: The Emptyness: The Blandness: The Copypasteness: The Game
BotW shitsuckers are truly the most pathetic and insufferable fandrone base, defending a 6/10 so vehemently. Not even Skyward Swordfags were sunk THAT low.
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>>376320196
>actual goals

Like what? Like literally what? Fight ganon and thats it. There's no content to "explore"
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>>376317656
Hey i visited that mine once!
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>>376315410
buy sonic mania genious
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>>376320226
botw didnt perfect anything
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>>376314680
>wasted 35 years on a hobby he doesn't even like
Your opinion is now worthless. Please stop posting
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>>376314875
Name a more autistic tripfag.
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>>376320114
And naturally you would say yea but this is the first game where people were so far up their own asses. If you didn't provide a timestamped copy, then people would say you don't have the game and attempt to discard your opinion.
This has never happened to me before at all.

And then when you do timestamp for the 100th time, they begin to say shit like you didn't play enough. After another timestamp of playtime they either ignore you or say you have bad taste. Real fitting of /v/ actually.

Look, the game isn't deserving of all the praise it's getting. I'm not saying it's bad but people are straight up dick riding the game and saying it's the game of the fucking decade. I bad fun with it and enjoyed it but cmon, this game is no where near that kind of status. I give it an 8.
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>>376314791
My sides killed me the first time I saw this
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>>376320112
I'm just saying keep /pol/ at /pol/, I also don't go to /ck/ to disuss vidya
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>>376320552
metacritic is the only sane review in a cucked industry
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>>376320656
yes it did
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>>376320732
everything is pol, faggot. there are no safe spaces here
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>>376320203
>>376320707
Most people aren't saying the game is shit besides shit posters and the very few who didn't like it. Most people are saying the game is not 10/10 and it sure as hell isn't.
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>>376317204
excellent game but I didnt get as much satisfaction out of it than I did with BOTW
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>>376320552
>review aggregator
>isn't relevant
All it does is put reviews from major publications into one place to get an average score. Your post doesn't even make sense.
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>>376317690
everytime i see this jiff i can just smell the cold nasty smelling smoke as she laughs and its horrible
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>>376315582
>>376320646
Are you faggots serious? The wii-U method?
Because that worked out fucking stellar last time, right?
Guys right?
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>>376320707
That's fine.
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>>376320813
>this is what /pol/ redditors actually belive
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>>376320557
>fuckall to do
Nigga there's 120 shrines, a stable and usually a village in each region of the 10 or so regions, dragon springs, mini games, NPCs and side quests, armors and upgrades, the four divine beasts, the 12 memories, some camps and mini bosses to fight, etc. What more do you need, retard?
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>>376320569
I suppose, yeah, except for the Korok Seeds, Divine Beasts, Ganon, completing the map, Shrines, the Master Sword, there really isn't anything to do. Terrible game.
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>>376320878
i was just suggesting a game you dont need to be an asshole about it ;-;
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>>376320762
>That sudden loss of speed
>has to get off and jump on again
>perfect
Sure
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>>376320970
Everything you just described are the only explorable things in the game. Except one is spammed 900 times and the others are spammed one hundred times.
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>>376321016

What is friction?
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>>376320830

I say it is though. I don't like 3d Zelda or open world games that aren't MMOs and I still put 90 hours into BOTW and finished in comfortably and can easily reccomend to anyone for a myriad of reasons. That's a 10/10. If it can do that much it certainly deserves it. There's so many ways to play almost anyone can have fun with it.
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>>376320707
I like the part where you still haven't given any legitimate criticism about the game, and you're still dancing around some bullshit argument about timestamps to smokescreen the obvious fact you haven't actually played the game.
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>>376320656
BotW fucked up a lot of things (combat, shrines), but I'd say it perfected exploration, at least. When I compare it to the last open world critical darling, GTAV, I can't help but think how boring the world was in that game.
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>>376320917
>mixes /pol/ and reddit
>two extremely different places
>uses nigger emoji
What did he mean by this?
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>>376320762
I see a pointless side mechanic, where's the perfection at?
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>>376320813
And this is why y'all are faggots
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>>376321016
he ran into the stone step and the shield is not exactly smooth on the bottom so
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>>376321016
>DUDE THE GAME HAS TO ADHERE TO FUCKING PHYSICS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW ITS SO SHIT
You really can't win with anti-BotW shitposters
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>>376321176
You're mistaking walking around with nothing to do for exploration.
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>>376321196
>fun is pointless
k
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>>376314061
>what I actually got
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>>376321178
>/pol/ isn't basically Reddit

Have you never seen the screencapps of r/theDonald??
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>>376319081
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>>376321016

What is, landing on brick?
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Eventide Island was probably the most ludo moment in vidya since the original Thief for me.
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>>376321315
>not adding "YAHAHA" in the distance
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>>376321264
Considering you can actually find things like shrines or seeds or new weapons or weapon camps or armor or food or whatever the hell, there's actual incentive to explore in BotW, though. In GTAV you don't find shit, hell you can barely go inside of buildings in that game like you could in GTAIV.
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>>376321016
>>376321196
butthurt samefaggot spotted
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>>376321178
>two extremely different places

even /pol/ is fed up with Trumpredditors by now
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>>376321341
Is BotW the most ludo LoZ game yet?
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>>376314061
>it's another shrine with a simple puzzle or tech demo showing off the physics
>it's another mini-guardian trial
>it's another freebie
lol people think this game is 10/10
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>>376321459

There's also NPCs, quests, materials for armor upgrades, weapons, ingredients for elixirs and food; there's a lot of fucking shit to do.
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>>376321459
There's no incentive to explore in botw. Nothing you gain from it makes exploration worth it. The game becomes very shallow very fast. Then you realize that the game followed the open world meme.

Another series destroyed by that shitty game design cause no one ever does it correctly.
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>>376321476
its pretty lude. not sure if its as lude as OOT with naked fish loli's though
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>>376320762
>this consumes durability
>gliding/climbing consume stamina

NO FUN ALLOWED
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>>376321598
>Nothing you gain from it makes exploration worth it
why though
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>>376321607
I don't think it consumes durability on sand/snow
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>>376321681
Yes it does.
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>>376321607
>this consumes durability
only if it's on dryland
it's doesn't reduce durability if you're on snow or sand
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>THIS is literally the only game switch has
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>>376320970
Yeah there's ONLY a shit ton of things to do, what the fuck Nintendo.
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>>376320876
It's only fake cinema smoke
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>>376321341
Yeah man I wish there was more of that, it was one of my favorite moments in the game.
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>>376321738
>>376321681
It shouldn't reduce durability anywhere.
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>>376321171
Not that anon but, you can't ask for a legitimate criti ism of a subjective medium. You can just dismiss anything as "not legitimate" because YPU don't feel that way. I'm My opinion everything feels watered down from other Zelda experiences.
Yes there's a lot to do and see. But nothing feels particularly fleshed out. I burn through temples and puzzles. Villages offer me little to see or do. Side quests feel like side quests from any game I've played. The main quest feels forgetable to me. It just lacks That "heroes legend" The other games had. I feel like I did in obivion and skyrim. Just some faggot people say is special
The games biggest plus is the degree in which you can interact with the environment. But should that really be the best selling point in a Zelda title.
Also fuck the new armor and weapon system. I don't l8me it in a Zelda formula, feels out of place
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People are still salty about Zelda?

Keep crying your Horizon doesnt come close to it.

https://youtu.be/aVPXKdSEGNQ
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>>376321097
Except aside from the tests of strength, none of the shrines are the same and everything still amounts to at least 60 hours of playing the game.

Shitters bitching that the game is "empty" or "lacks content" just need to man up and admit that they just don't care about the content it has. Because it has a lot, it's not empty by any means. And for a Legend of Zelda the content is as quality as any other in the series.
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>>376320762
congrats they finally let link shield surf like he did in the cartoon when he rode his shield into the distance. Big whoop.
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>>376321171
You've seen the critism before already hundreds of times probably. Not gonna waste my time writing them down again. You'd probably deflect any and all critique anyway.
If you want another timestamp then just ask faggot.
>>376321147
You can put hours into this game easily though so don't bring playtime into this. This game is adhd, literally. You can be heading towards an objective you marked and do 10 different things in between. Some days you might have a goal in mind and do everything but that goal in that sitting.
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The game really doesn't look that terrible when you're actually playing it though.
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>>376321950
Botw is an empty mess that made me realize Nintendo will never make a good game again, no less a Zelda one.
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>>376321607
>this consumes durability
only on rocks
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>>376321341
>Eventide Island
it lasted 10 minutes without picking up a single item, this island is worthless
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>>376321936
spoilers both games are open world trash
botw does look better tho
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>>376322091
>this island is worthless
>hurr dont challenge me please i dont want to die
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>>376314479
>All of the poor reviews were released over a week after the game came out
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>>376322154
>botw does look better tho
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>376321936
horizon is visually better, but has some shitty aesthetics. Zelda has a lot of pointless details that are cool the first time you see them and then you never experience them again.

That said I only played zelda and have no desire to ever play the other
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>>376322236
realistic graphics are shit in my opinion.
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>>376322042
Back in my day trolling meant something.
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>>376322174
The island is easy as shit unless you go to it right away.
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>>376314061
This edit misses the point entirely. The point is that the exploration would have been more satisfying if you discovered interesting and unique things (ie dungeons, you know like in the original LoZ?) instead of shrine, after shrine, after shrine, after shrine. Every fucking major reward in this game is a shrine. And a lot of said shrines are just "blessing" shrines which are literally a straight line with a chest and a monk with a spirit orb. Might as well have just put the chest and orb on the ground and saved the player the disappointment and the tedious loading screen.
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>>376322351
You must meant last year because you don't know what trolling looks like unless you were born before 2000
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>>376321928
Ayyyy thanks anon. I agree with you on the weapon durability.

Games been out for months and I haven't met one single person IRL that had anything positive to say about it. Literally only on /v/ and certain areas of the Internet will you find people actually defend the system.
All I can ask is how? How can they blatantly defend a crapy system? Even normies had some shit to say about it.
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>>376322390
dont you lose all your gear?
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>>376314680
Hyrule castle had no puzzles.
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I think BOTW is okay, that's all. It's not the best game ever created, not by a wide margin, but neither it is irredeemable shit. I've been playing Zelda since its inception and BOTW definitely changed the formula and added a whole lot of physics-based activities. Whether or not they're worthwhile is up to you. Lots of people were burned out on the Zelda formula: half a dozen or so (depending on game) dungeons, each with an item inside that will help you progress throughout different parts of the world; puzzles in the dungeons that require you to flip switches, push blocks, move parts of the dungeon, and open doors with keys. Me, I LIKE that formula, and that's probably why I don't see BOTW as this revelation that it's been hailed as by essentially every reviewer. I don't begrudge anyone who likes it, obviously. I just prefer previous titles. Here's my ranking.

2D
ALTTP > Link's Awakening > Oracle of Ages > Oracle of Seasons > Minish Cap > ALBW > Zelda > Zelda 2 > Spirit Tracks > Phantom Hourglass

3D
Twilight Princess > Ocarina > Skyward > Majora's > Wind Waker
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>>376322423
I just realized something. All the shrine puzzles could have literally been environmental. They are fundamentally the same as Korok seeds. All you're doing is solving a fucking physics puzzle for an item. Nintendo really dropped the ball.
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>>376322465
you keep all your hearts and stamina. You can also cheat it by droping a good weapon at the shore before the challenge loads
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>>376322540
>Lots of people were burned out on the Zelda formula
I hear this everywhere but I've yet to find any evidence of this ever.
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>>376322465
you can just drop weapons near it and pick them back up.
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>>376322174
completed it in 10 minutes without ever dying with 5 hearts , how bad do you have to be to feel challenged by this.
This island was one of the biggest disappointment of the game, considered how everyone is shilling it
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>>376322639
The only "evidence" I found was of people on forums (including /v/) saying it. I don't have any data regarding it or anything like that. I could probably play a new traditional Zelda game once a year and never get tired of it.
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>>376322540
Sorry anon but if your opinion deters from the game being a 10 then your opinion is invalid. You probably never even played the game. Go shitpost somewhere else
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>>376322540
I agree, I really like the "Zelda formula" that LttP introduced, I don't understand why it needed to change. The problem with modern Zelda is that it got too handholdy and went overboard with the vehicle gimmicks, the fundamentals were fine.
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>>376322529
>Hyrule castle had no puzzles.
that's what he said.
>Hyrule castle>>>any dungeon

means the same thing
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>>376322670
i have never had the hcance as i do not yet own the game what is the reward for beating the island?
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>>376322598
>>376322651

>cheating
>wah this is too easy

Seriously kids
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>>376322707
I know this is sarcasm, but I own the game on Switch.

>>376322752
I agree. ALTTP was my first (I played the original before that but didn't show much interest and never got very far) and will probably always be my favorite. I value dungeon design over almost all else when it comes to Zelda, which is probably why I rate Twilight Princess as my favorite 3D entry.
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>>376322427
If bleating the same dull arguments like "it's empty" over and over in response to posts explaining why you're wrong is not trolling then you are legitimately retarded.
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>>376314875

Ninja Gaiden Black
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>>376321767
Your meme is outdated M8
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>>376322820
even without the cheat. just come there late and its easy.
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>>376322891
Botw is empty. Deal with it, Nintenbro
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>>376322670
People "shill" the island because it's a breath of fresh air compared to most of the shit you do in the game. I'm sure the labyrinth would get shilled more too if there was only one of them.
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>>376321341
do you get your shit back after you beat it? I dont want to lose all my high level weapons i have right now
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>>376322923
You fucking kids man. Put some effort into it.
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>>376314875
Most other Zelda games (A Link to the Past, all three GBC entries, Ocarina, Majora, Skyward Sword)
Dark Souls
Bloodborne
Ninja Gaiden Black/Sigma
Morrowind
Fallout: New Vegas
Dragon Age: Origins
Silent Hill 2
Resident Evil 4
The Witcher 3

I can go on.
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>>376322921

It's great I went there with 3 hearts.
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>>376322820
To be honest I don't get why people complain that people do that trick.
>"you're taking the fun and challenge out of it if you do that!!~"
but when people do that one motion control puzzle with the ball with the maze they just flip it to the flat side and say
>"It's another way to solve a puzzle, thinking out of the box!!~"
lol hypocrits
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>>376322639
>>376322706
here's some evidence, senpai
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So guys,what if the shrines were used to upgrade your runes instead?
Think about it, most of the puzzles are more bound to a certain rune.
i.e shrines with water usually needed ice rune. Shrines with balls usually required magnet.
Having the shrines give give essentially heart pieces or stamina "pieces" is so shit. Doesn't feel like I earned it, especially since most puzzles are like 5 minutes long.
So, completing like 10 magnet related puzzles will let you upgrade the magnet rune.
Tell me that's not better than killing guardians for scrap to upgrade. From there they could've had old school heart piece collecting with actual puzzles that made you think. In the huge ass world it could've easily been done AND they could've made the game seem less empty. There would've been more memorable set pieces (like how there's always a heart piece in a windmill).

Also, fuck anyone who says this game is a 10.
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>>376323136

I'm not the one complaining, they are, you can't bitch about it being too easy if you cheat.

>>376323034

Yeah you do.
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>>376323206
>the games that stuck to the formula sold the most

I think Anomuna needs to be fired. Anytime someone in the office ever says

>you know guys, I think we should change the series to something else

They should be kicked out the door.
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>>376320147

>he doesn't know
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>>376320762
That wouldn't work at all. Not even on snow. Shitty physics.

t. Norwegian
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>>376323336
The shrines sucked regardless. They dont fit in the world and they are a general waste of time. They should have went with the alien theme that was in the concept art. At least it would have given some credibility to playing a physics puzzle in a literal world of fantasy. This game could have been so much more, but nope, Nintendo had to throw away all their game design for the sake of the open world meme.
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>>376323368
but all those games are formula games

what do YOU mean when you said Zelda formula
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>>376323405
You can't fucking glide in the air on a 1x1m Square piece of cloth either, what's your point?
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>Love the Zelda formula, both 2D and 3D
>Twilight Princess is my favorite for the varied swordplay
>Can't wait for the next one
>Skyward Sword comes out, it's shit
>Swordplay is awkward and forced
>Fuck it hopefully they fix it in the next one
>Release BOTW many years later
>Nothing like previous Zelda games
>Entire world loves it
>Never gonna get another proper Zelda game again

This is the worst feeling, why couldn't they stick to that demo they showed before in TP's artstyle? They could have made BOTW a new IP.
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>>376323514
Nintendo got lazy after TP. WW was them trying to be different, realizing they fucked up, then going back to TP. Then Wii was when they shifted from making video games to making casualware. And the zelda series suffered with it.
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>>376323206
>OoT and TP are the highest
>doesn't show the sales for the Oracle games or Minish Cap just so PH/ST's sales look worse
>SS required motion+ which cut into its sales
>WW, which BotW is heavily based on, sold way less than OoT and TP

What is this supposed to prove exactly?
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>>376323206
How is this proof that people were burnt out on the Zelda formula? If anything it shows that people were not burned out on it.

Also, Ocarina and Twilight Princess confirmed for best.
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>>376323582
I know that feel bro
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>>376323582
>Hey, guys! Look at this cool tech demo of a giant spider breaking through a temple with great graphics! You want this game, huh huh?

>Nope. Enjoy N64 graphics and open world ubisoft design, lulz! Btw, that will be $60 plus tip (dlc of cut features)
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>>376322814
You unlock a flying through hoops minigame
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>>376323463

You should have paid attention, the shrines are supposed to look out of place, they were made by ancient Sheikas and "designed" to be tests for the hero.
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>>376314875
Minecraft
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>>376323742
They were designed to waste my fucking time and act as padding for a game with no exploration content. I cant believe temples were removed for this lazy shit
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>>376322814
This may shock you: YET ANOTHER SHRINE! WOOO!
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>Fetch quests
It's okay when Nintendo does it
>Bland open world made up mostly of fields
It's okay when Nintendo does it
>Reskinned enemies
It's okay when Nintendo does it
>Activision towers
It's okay when Nintendo does it
>4 dungeons
It's okay when Nintendo does it
Seriously the game is bretty good but it suffers the same problem every other open world game has
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Now show the inside of that cave and what's behind those cardboard cutout watchtowers.

It's a puzzle-less shrine and an ubisoft tower
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>>376323820

Well fuck your shit then.
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>>376323716
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>>376323463
I'll agree with you on the fact that this game had a ton of potential. I guess the hardware just held the game back.
The shrines didn't seem out of place to me. Yea they seemed like a waste but them being there made sense. Aren't they just old sheikah shit? You use your slate to get in after all. I think they could've just added more set pieces like houses or some shit and add puzzles relating to it.

Back to the game itself. Many say that they were just laying the groundwork for the next game which has me wondering how this game could be a 10. Games that are described like this aren't 10s, the sequels could be maybe.
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The only thing that makes BoTW a good game is that exploring and gliding around is fun. It didn't innovate the gliding either, since that was in Wind Waker.

I'm glad we have BoTW as part of the Zelda catalog, but I would have much rather had something comparable to aLttP, Ocarina, Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess. It feels like it's been so long without a good 3d Zelda game, since Skyward Sword was shit.
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>>376321097
>Except one is spammed 900 times and the others are spammed one hundred times.
So like every game ever
>FPS
>you only shoot guns all the time, no content
>Platformer
>you only jump all the time, no content
>RPG
>You only navigate menus all the time, no content
>MMO
>you only feel dead inside all the time, no content
>RTS
>you only build forces all the time, no content
>Fighting
>you only mash buttons all the time, no content
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>>376321341
Would have been better if it didn't just end up in a fucking shrine.
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BotW haters are jaded and forget that they aren't kids anymore.

This is what kids like my nephew see:

>a sad opening story that compels them to want to save Hyrule and also discover the past
>a huge world with lots of different looking locations
>a lot of little fun things like climbing huge mountains, sliding down them on your shield, messing with the slate abilities, etc.
>the divine beasts being cool and a host of funny characters
>Ganon fight being hype

You might look and think the game is lacking or easy, but I think Nintendo set the stage for fun adventuring with a mysterious premise that compels kids. I think it's a pretty damn good game for kids.
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>>376321729
Try playing the game. If surfing sand consumed durabilty the sand seals would be poinless.
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>>376323602
>SS required motion+ which cut into its sales

TP required an entire new console but it still managed to be the 2nd best selling.

>OoT and TP are the highest
exactly. it's been 20 years since OoT and they still haven't topped it. It's almost like people lost interest in the series for some reason. TP came close, but when you look at all the advantages it had over OoT(waggle gimmick that the masses were eating up at the time, being on the 3rd best selling home console of all time instead of the N64 disaster, released on 2 consoles) it's actually kind of embarrassing it only got close
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>>376324346
>BotW haters are jaded and forget that they aren't kids anymore.
Or maybe Nintendo made a bad game and you can't see that cause their cock is down your throat.
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>>376324346
No I am pretty keenly aware that I am not a kid anymore. I am aware that I have standards and yes, it typically takes more than slapping the Zelda name onto a game to make me interested in playing it.

I don't get what you are having trouble with here. I am not a child, why would I just buy into any old interactive thing just because? I have experienced many vidjas and BOTW isn't fun OR impressive. How is any of this surprising or nonsensical?
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>>376324216
No, it would be more if Ocarina had cut out all the temples, minigames, minidungeons, hearts and replaced them with:
Dampe's grave digging adventure 900 times and 100 of those holes in the ground found around the overworld, just with detailed puzzles inside.
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>>376324216
Most games in general have good gameplay and level design to back up what is otherwise repitition.

I know that's a far out concept, but it's true.
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>>376314443

>I feel pathetic that I visit this shithole full of teen idiots as a 26 year old
>proudly announce that you are 35

Amazing creature you are.
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>>376324457
Appreciate the juvenile turd of a response.
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>>376324452
What people don't realize, and Nintendo doesnt, is that people are still willing to buy games like OoT. But for some reason, they heard

>people are getting tired of this, let's not make games like this anymore

And then people like me are sitting here wondering who the fuck even said that. Just make a adventure game like all your successful zeldas. Everyone would love it, including the people who grew up with alttp. There's a reason we don't spend money on games with "new stuff."
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>>376323206
Where is OoS/OoA, MC, FS, and FSA
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>>376321876
>smash your shield on rocks with your bodyweight
>act surprised when it breaks
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>>376324346
Why are you comparing yourself to a kid?
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>>376324632
in the capcbro shed
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>>376323716
Seriously, just this tech demo would have been better than BotW
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>>376324452
>TP required an entire new console but it still managed to be the 2nd best selling.

Are you simple? That's the same with every fucking Zelda game. The point is that people already owned a Wii but didn't want to pay extra for SS's motion+ controller.
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>>376324581
>I am not a child, why would I just buy into any old interactive thing just because?
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that you're trying to play a game that was meant for kids. It's well designed considering the demographic they aim for. You shouldn't even be playing Nintendo games at this point except if it's with younger family.
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>>376324630
>Just make a adventure game like all your successful zeldas

they did. it's called "Breath of the Wild"
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>>376324452
There's nothing embarrassing about it. Ocarina of Time is widely considered the greatest video game of all time. It's a virtual consensus. That Twilight Princess even got close speaks to how underrated the game actually was.
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>>376324827
Botw is not like any of their past zeldas. And they forgot to add the adventure part.
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>>376324940
Adventure was the main focus of BotW though just like the very first game. That's why they went with emphasizing the overworld this time instead of dungeons.
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>>376324827
BotW is more like WW than it is OoT or TP. Small amount of dungeons that are mostly mediocre, heavy focus on exploration, lots of filler/repetitive content, etc.
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>>376324940
>Botw is not like any of their past zeldas
i think it's incredibly close to the original LoZ

>And they forgot to add the adventure part
ok you stumped me. what do you mean when you say adventure?
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>>376324827
Yeah that would explain all those amazing dungeons in the game, oh and those memorable bosses can't forget those
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>>376325020
I guess if you were making a game where Link is an autistic child being let out in the back yard to go explore, then sure, it's adventure in that.
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>>376324765
Yeah I didn't. Borrowed a buddy's switch and played all of 30 minutes before I realized I had been rused.

What I don't get is how it got such rave reviews and universal praise if the main purchasing demographic of the switch is 19-30 year olds. It is actual a game for babbys
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>>376325061
breath of the wild and wind waker are practically polar opposites. you people are fucking weird
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>>376324346
>bringing kids into this
Most kids can't even finish the fucking game lol.

Give those kids experience with other games and previous Zelda titles. My brother is 12 and he spent over a week on the plateau before I helped him finish it. I'm not even sure if he even beat the game since I stopped paying attention to him.

His exact words when I asked him how the game was this: it's cool and a little fun but I liked the other Zeldas better. Maybe it's because he played the others such as OOT/MM, SS and TP the year prior or he just played enough games to make that judgment. Either way, as a game it's ok. It's not that wowing at all. Maybe as a Zelda game yea, but you compare it to games that have released over the past decade and suddenly it loses that wow factor (especially after 30 hours of repetitive playing).
I liked the game but I'm gonna have to agree with what my brother said.
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>>376325079
The first zelda had dungeons and non breakable weapons.
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>>376325153
If you only played for 30 minutes then why are you even posting in this thread?
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>>376325079
>i think it's incredibly close to the original LoZ

Not him but I don't understand why people make this comparison. Is it because of the pre-release marketing? They're almost nothing alike. Yes BotW is open-world but it's more in line with the modern concept of open-world.
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>>376325250
>needing to play a min amount of time to like a game

Protip: devs use to follow the five to ten minute rule of whether a game is suppose to entice a player at all. Back then, those were the standards. But I guess most of you have been brainwashed to thinking you have to put 40 hours into a game before you can say you like it or not, without realizing how cucked you are as a consumer. So where ever you got this notion that you can't judge a game on the first few minutes of play, you got some reevaluation with your life to do.
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>>376325250
Because I try to gain insight on what made people love it but it's universally "HAVE YOU EVEN PLAYED IT" and webms of launching logs and rocks. I'm trying to deduce why BotW was such a hit despite being so mediocre.
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>>376325101
i wouldn't have minded better dungeons, but the divine beasts were like the perfection of the boring puzzle boxes that OoT-SS fags seem to love so much, so i don't know what those types are complaining about
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>>376325407
The divine beasts were the worst thing I have ever been in and were a disgrace to the series as a whole.

>let's take these story centric "dungeons" and only have them last ten minutes.

Divine beasts are just shrines with a boss at the end. No different from a combat shrine.
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BoTW has some fun exploration (climbing mountains and gliding around), a likeable cast of new characters, a decent story (which it seems like they wasted, it could have been an amazing story), but the shrines were a big let down compared to the dungeons of the past, the story progression. The grand adventure of past Zelda games missing.

It really feels like it's half finished, which sucks because the half that is finished is really really good.
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>>376325397
LOL THIS
You forgot the part about timestamp or you didn't play it
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>>376325153
Woah dude you were able to form an opinion about something that takes a lot of time to experience in only a fraction of that time?! I guess somewhat modern games that have long intro cutscenes/tutorials are thrash too.
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>>376325396
Playing a 100+ hour game for 30 minutes says something though. It says that he didn't even try. That's like dropping a Souls game in 30 minutes, everyone will laugh at you for trying to argue that your opinion matters.

He didn't experience even a morsel of the game, and he also clearly doesn't even care about exploring. In 30 minutes the game doesn't give you anything. If you dropped it by then then you clearly did not want to at least see what the game offered, you wrote it off before it had the chance to show you anything. Which also implies he probably went in with a certain mindset beforehand like he was determined to give up on it.
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>>376325396
>devs use to follow the five to ten minute rule of whether a game is suppose to entice a player at all.
Back when games took under an hour to finish?
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>>376325546
yeah they sucked ass but that's how i've felt about zelda dungeons since OoT so i literally cannot tell what people who liked 3D zelda games are complaining about. i thought it was a mercy that the motherfuckers were short
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>>376325396
Nice projecting bro, showed him.
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>>376325720
but then if he played for 100+ hours you'd say he must have liked the game if he played it for that long
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>>376325396
Back then games were a lot harder to trick kids into spending their quarters to play an hour long game. Standarts have changed
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>>376325720
>It says that he didn't even try. That's like dropping a Souls game in 30 minutes, everyone will laugh at you for trying to argue that your opinion matters.
No, your comparison is way off. A video game should be able to show how it plays within the first five minutes. When I picked up botw, the one thing I hated right away were the frame rate, the graphics, the movement, the control scheme, and the voice acting. It got worse once you exit the resurrection shrine.
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>>376325654
It does not take longer than that to form an opinion on BotW. Get the fuck out with your no true scotsman bullshit.
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>>376325784
I wouldn't, maybe some other people would. You don't have to play the full game, just enough to get an idea. It's understandable if you played enough to get done one divine beast for example.
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>>376325756
Back when developers and consumers had standards.

I mean, I still have standards. I know a lot of you young kids born under bad game won't know a good one if you saw or played it.
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>>376325720
Eh, I would say you can experience the whole game in a few hours. The game is sorta repetitive.

If a game can't grip you in 30 minutes then there's no point in continuing to play is what I say. You can even raise it to 2 hours since that's the amount of time you can play before getting a refund on steam.
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>>376325776
If you like dungeons being short, you're whats wrong with the industry.

>>376325840
Except that was gone the moment home consoles became a thing, so try again, new age hippie who never played a game he hasn't read off of Polygon.
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>>376322423
OP's edit does indeed miss the point. But the original is just as stupid.
The Tower of Hera is one of the temples housing one of the Pendants of Virtue. Comparing to it either a tiny little Shrine or simply a cool structure from the overworld, is very disingenuous. When the equivalent is clearly that of the Divine Beasts or Hyrule Castle.

The shrines are like the equivalent of of the hidden holes and caves you uncover on the overworld. And both games have cool non-dungeon structures that barely matter.
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>>376325868
The fact you could have gotten the same thing from watch a 10minute video really says something about your opinion on it. Your opinion still means jack shit.
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>>376325397
>game focused on exploring a big world
>playing for 30mins doing fuck all gets you an "insight" on it
smhtbhfam
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>>376325942
You need to take the nostalgia goggles off, they've made you blind to reality.
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>>376325920
See
>>376325868
The game isn't fucking fun no matter how much you try to convince me it is with your fucking memes.

Btw I've yet to see someone explain WHY they liked botw. Plenty of people capable of forming legible sentences about why it sucks, but to argue for it? YOU DIDNT PLAY IT. PHYSICS. EXPLORATION WUZ GUD.

A sixth grade teacher would say "but WHY did you like it specifically?"
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>>376325868
Nothing is wrong with the graphics, movement, or control scheme. That's just personal preference on your end, not a problem with the game. And I don't think anyone would reasonably drop a game due to the VA.

The resurrection shrine is also not enough time to experience how any system in the game really works. The controls don't come into play until you've experienced combat. And exploration is also a thing, a big thing in the LoZ games.
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>>376325153
Did you even get off the plateau/tutorial?
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>>376325197
>Given blank map which you get to fill in by traveling to a great number of locations
>Ganon initially wins
>exploring via gliding
>small amount of dungeons (BoTW's beasts count for about half a dungeon each at best, more like a quarter)
>can explore via gliding
>mentored by the King of Hyrule
>parry system
>stealth system in place
>heavy emphasis on exploration

Don't feel bad anon, Wind Waker is actually a pretty decent game that didn't deserve the backlash it got.
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>>376326070
a video isn't the same as a video game.

However, with how cinematic most games are these days, watching them will give you about the same experience.
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>>376326173
Yes. Fuck yourself.
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>>376326120
A game that doesn't encompass its core aspect within 30 mins is a poor game. I know you cannot fathom Nintendo making a poor game, but botw happened.
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>>376326243
S-STOP BTFOING ME
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>>376326138
>Btw I've yet to see someone explain WHY they liked botw.
I like the game. The content, atmosphere and the variety of biomes and dynamic weather makes traversing Hyrule really fun. I like roughly 8/10 of the shrine puzzles and like the shrine quests even more. I also like the written NPC dialog, it's standard Nintendo fare and I don't get tired of it.
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>>376326243
No need to get hostile. Most people don't during their first half hour. It's as simple as that.
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In terms of world maps designs, and elevations. It is fantastic. What other game world that actually encourages explorations without a quest pointer?
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>>376325868
AGREED.
That's the first thing I noticed about the game besides the armor/equipment system. I really thought there would be more armor sets based off equipping clothes for the first 2 minutes. Then I walked out the resurrection cave and the fps and graphics hit me.

I still kept playing though. I was disappointed in the lack of a story. I was thinking that the story will begin after finding Impa but it really didn't. Terrible story telling.
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>>376326243
Not possible in 30 minutes. I'd be surprised even if you followed a guide that you managed.
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>>376326352
Okay now explain WHY you thought those things were quality aspects, you dumb faggot. Did you even read my post? You just did EXACTLY what I complained about. "I just like it!" WHY? USE YOUR WORDS.
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>>376325906
Yes it does. The plateu is designed to give you a feel of how the game wiil be and 30mins is not enough get through it.
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>>376326143
>Nothing is wrong with the graphics, movement, or control scheme.
Why is the graphics no higher than PS2 graphics? Why are the texture resolutions so low? Why are the colors so simple?

Why is the movement clunky? Why is the framerate barely 30 fps? Why does the game lock up for a second or so as things load in 2017? Why is the jump button X? Why do I have to use the dpad to quick change items? What happened to when items and weaps were equipped quickly to a button for easy access?

This is only a sample of the frustration with this game.
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>>376326459
>>376326526
Okay. Sure.

Why do you get so butthurt that I didn't like BotW?
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>>376314875
is Shitposter a game, tripfag?
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>>376326489
I like it because it's stimulating. The post apocalyptic setting has a charm about it that I appreciate.

What do you fucking want, a scientific explanation for why this is? Why do people like the other Zelda games? For the SAME reasons. They find them fun and/or charming in their design.
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>>376323871
>>Activision towers
>It's okay when Nintendo does it
It literally is because they really didn't do Activision towers.
BotW's towers don't spoil the location of all the content for you, it just gives you outlines and the common location names.

But most importantly. The paraglider make BotW towers fun and useful. I would have climbed towers in BotW even if the towers didn't unlock or do anything beyond being physical towers.
I can't say that about the Activision Towers.
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>>376326352
heh its always the same argument, MUH COMFY ATMOSPHERE and typical artificial fun bullshit, kys nintentoddler.
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>>376325385
it tough to explain if you weren't there to play the original before internet guides were a thing. in later zeldas, the dungeons feel like kind of the entire game, just part of the checklist of divine chores you have to fulfill to win. in zelda 1 the overworld felt like a whole game, and you were constantly stumbling on little secrets in it. dungeons were almost like just another secret thing you could find, but on a whole new level.

botw doesn't really get the dungeon part right, but finding shrines feels almost like stumbling on those secrets in the zelda 1 overworld. they have plenty of problems that have been discussed to death, of course, but it's like the actual spirit and inspiration of zelda is back.
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>>376326589
I am not butthurt. And I have friends who don't like BotW.
But getting through the Plateau under 30 minutes on your first run through just sounds weird. It's something of a struggle to do it even if you know what you're doing.
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>>376322540
>Skyward not last
shit opinion
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>>376326818
>that fun you had wasn't real!
Ha...

I don't think BotW is the best Zelda by the way. Not sure what the issue is with someone enjoying the game for what it is.
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>>376326548
>Why is the jump button X?

LOL, even after dozens of hours playing that control scheme still fucked me up. It was the cause of many of my deaths.
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>>376326589
Because not only did you not like it or not, you just didn't play it, are shitposting and/or played it with a snarky nitpicking asshole mindset because you're that pathetic.
I suggest you kill yourself and stop passing this awful inane shitposting as anything worthwhile, your opinion is worth jack shit, you didn't play the game, stop shitposting, you will start crying about drones and stuff right now but the truth is that you're trying desperately to hate on the game of the decade and making shit up, it's pathetic.
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>>376326964
Botw sucks.
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Why do people keep pretending like they have played the games?
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>>376326962
You jump with triangle in SotC too, also dozens of hours are enough to learn a control scheme, why are you such a filthy casual weeb-kun?
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>>376320970
>take shit collectibles from every Ubisoft game ever
>put a nintendo badge on it
>call it content

Really makes you rape a woman, doesn't it?
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>>376326548
>Why is the graphics no higher than PS2 graphics?
Probably to accommodate the rendering distance and still maintain instant response time when bringing up menus. I thought it looked nice in a ton of areas in the game, still.

>Why is the jump button X?
Because you didn't change it in the settings.
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>>376327071
No it doesn't. Your contrarianism and desperation sucks though.
BotW blew you faggots the fuck out so hard it's hilarious.
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>>376326589
Define butthurt. I don't care if you don't like it or not but its not fair to give such a small amount of time to judge a somewhat big game.
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>>376326138
imagine being this autistic. Nigga you didnt like it and are throwing a hissy fit about it.
>inb4 im not throwing a hiss fit
>the main purchasing demographic of the switch is 19-30 year olds. It is actual a game for babbys
Youre literally looking down on people for liking something you dont like. If this isnt full on autism, I dont know what is anymore.

>inb4 people are not saying why they like it
You just said some of it in your post
>Physics
>World
>Exploration
But if your only argument is "Theres nothing" to combat those youre the one that needs to explain but the farthest you get is "feels empty". Yes people have gone into depth on why they like it. Physics, everything is intractable and you can do and make a lot of things using objects in the world. World is vast and has many biomes and NPCs within it that have their on unique dialogue that can change depending on what youre doing and wearing. Because of this vast world, theres a lot of exploration in it from various dungeons and trials to collecting unique items. No its Empty with Nothing to Do.
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>>376326964
>responding this many times to a "i played it on a friend's system and i just don't see the appeal" poster

stop flooding the market and decreasing the value of everyone's (You)s
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>>376327186
>Probably to accommodate the rendering distance and still maintain instant response time when bringing up menus.
???
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>>376314565
>Expecting a brand new IP to outsell a fucking -Zelda- game that released within seven days of each other in the same open world genre.

Now I liked both games, but you can't be this retarded Anon
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>>376326181
Not him, but I feel it needed more, mainly in the ocean. At the time, Wind Waker kicked ass. I loved it and still love it to this day, but its problems are more prominent to me. It's still my second favorite Zelda game.
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>>376323582
I know that feel, bro

I thought after OoT we'd never get a proper Zelda again, especially after Wind Waker happened

But Breath of the Wild gives me hope.
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>>376327435
>no mountains in the bottom pic
What was your point exactly?
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>>376327558
How come neither a N64 game or a modern game like Witcher have the same problem as botw? On the N64, it didn't need that excuse. But it's 2017. Why are Botw's graphics dated? In fact, I'm pretty sure the textures of the N64 are the same size as the botw's environmental textures.
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>>376326321
>A game that doesn't encompass its core aspect within 30 mins is a poor game.
Nice opinion m8. If your ADHD mind cannot fanthom the idea that modern games require longer timeframes then you need to get checked.
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>>376327095
Well thank God I learned in 24 hours of gameplay right? Believe it or not, BOTW was not the only game I was playing at the time so going back to it felt weird.

I only got to the flying colossus in sotc and that was over a decade ago. You expect me to remember that?
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>>376319826
MoeShit Taffy

In your local GameStop this summer!
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>>376327702
A modern game requiring longer timeframes of getting me to like it just further shows how shit modern games have become. Even Halo, a cinematic shitfest, made sure to get its players into the action within ten minutes.
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>>376327542
would you be on board with the next game meeting halfway bettween BOTW and the classic zelda formula as in keep open air but have the main quest structured like a classic zelda game and then have lots of side quests and other things to find along the way
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>>376326045
>Except that was gone the moment home consoles became a thing
Ok? are you agreeing with me that standarts have changed or not?
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BotW was everything I hoped it would be, and I loved it.
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>>376321459
>like you could in GTAIV.
And IV already was terrible. Let that sink in.
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>>376327823
So long as the shitty baby puzzles die.
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>>376321512
retards rate GTA V a 10/10, and that one has literally nothing.

Hell, what the fuck would you rate Politically Correct Of Us? That one has literally nothing as well and is linear on top of that.
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>>376314791
WAIT A MINUTE THAT STATUE
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>>376328001
>>376327823
breath of the wild with LttP dungeons instead of divine beasts would be perfect.

and replace shrines with just a chest on the ground or something because goddamn
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>>376328021
Congrats. Now you know that open world games suck.

Also at the people using WW for dungeon design, why wont you use dungeon puzzles form attlp or OoT as your examples?
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>>376327858
If you said that to me in person I'd call you a faggot and never speak to you again.

I bought a wii u years ago because I thought the next Zelda game would be like the tech demo at e3. Literally bought it weeks after seeing that demo. Honestly did not use it much, even when bayo 2 and smash 4 came out.

Anyway, I enjoyed botw for what it was. It was no where near what I had expected initially. Felt so dumb thinking the game would be like the TECH DEMO. I learned a lot since then.
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>>376327669
You realize in BotW you can see pretty much opposite ends of Hyrule, right? From a massive distance away, you can see the divine beasts and their light beams hitting the castle.
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>>376326548
>no higher than PS2 graphics
For real. What is it with this "PS2 graphics" meme?
Does no one remember how PS2 games actually looked?
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>>376328171
>Felt so dumb thinking the game would be like the TECH DEMO.
You should feel retarded. No one can be this retarded.
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>>376314061
L TO THE M TO THE A TO THE FUCKING O
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>>376327817
It's not about "getting you to like it" you dipshit. It's about giving fair criticism based on the core aspects of a game, and 30 mins is not enough to see all ot has to offer.
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>>376328171
>expecting it to be the spider tech demo
Were you expecting WW to be like the famous link/ganondorf fight, you moron? It was what they shown when they showed it.
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>>376315410
wait for Metroid Prime 4
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>>376327904
You can actually.
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>>376328365
>fair criticism

All criticism is fair.
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>>376328367
You're right, it's stupid for us to expect quality Zelda games from Nintendo anymore.
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>>376327904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDpeRZrf5Hk
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>>376320762
GOT MAD SKILLZ
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>>376328278
I was blinded. Please forgive me.
I didn't expect it to be like that but I was hoping the art style and graphics would be similar since it was "running off the wii u". I got buzzworded into buying it.
>>376328367
I actually never saw that since I didn't have a GameCube during the time.
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>>376328665
We just got the best Zelda ever made you false flagging imbecile, never reply to me again unless you're actually contributing to the thread.
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>>376328576
except thats wrong
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>>376316364
Alundra is such a meme answer. It's only ever brought up because it's obscure to normies.
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Lol all the neckbearding contrarians in this thread, sit back and troll while nintendo roll around in a pile of money while they use all their goty awards as dildos on your mum and dad.

Botw is goat, those denying it haven't played it.
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>>376328576

>All criticism is fair.
>"game sucks because the sky is blue 1/10"
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>>376328884
>laggy, empty open world, weapon breaking, no dungeon, no story zelda is the best in the series

This is the world we now live in.
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>>376323136
No one gives a shit if you cheat.

The problem is when you come in and cry about how it's too easy after you cheated.
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>>376329024
Maybe he's only counting 3D Zeldas.
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>>376328902
>>376328969
Yes. That's a legit criticism. What you guys do not realize is that you cannot stomach criticism and have to justify your own opinions cause you don't believe in them like most do.

I think Botw sucks. Nothing you think or say will make it "less fair."
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The only glod thing tha came out of BotW was the Gerudo Outfit.
The rest is pretty mediocre.
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>>376328884
Not him, but I'd take OOT over it any day. No I don't have Nostalgia. Game came out when I was like 5. Played a bit of it at my cousins (who borrowed the n64 from their neighbors). Didn't know what the game was called till I was like 12 and found out about emulators. It was the most downloaded rom so I got it. The realization that it was the game I played all those years ago sure was something. I still think the game was amazing to this day. Definitely among the top 5 games I've played in my lifetime.
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>>376329124
No its an opinion. You dont even know what criticism is. Fair criticism is an honest expression of opinion and free of malice. This why everyone is shitting all over you, no one cares you hate it, youre literally blaming everyone but yourself for not liking it.
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>>376329361
Criticism and opinions are the same thing.
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>>376328113
A good chunk of shrines are at the end of a questline or environmental puzzle or event.

I like the idea of the shrines but I agree with you on the dungeons. They definitely should've had actual dungeons instead of the divine beasts.
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>367 replies
>54 images

What sort of atrocious LOL thread is this, fuck all of you obnoxious drooling retards.
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>>376316374
GIB
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>>376329124
>Yes. That's a legit criticism.
But how? could you explain to me how can you criticise something just by looking at the cover?
>I think Botw sucks. Nothing you think or say will make it "less fair."
And I think that your opinion is baseless because you didn't even bother with the game.
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>>376329631
Not him but do you argue with the people that have actual criticisms of the game?

How would you critique the game anon?
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>>376319882
>This is the first game I've seen where any feedback that's not praise needs a timestamp to prove they have it
Then it looks like you need to lurk more newfag
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>>376314262

>I have yet to play the best game of 2017
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>>376329631
Games have lived and died by their cover art alone. I know we live in an age where you barely get games now and have to justify every purchase you get, but please don't tell me to lower my standards to enduring a bad game pass the time it already soured me. Video games are entertainment in the end, not God's gift.
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>>376329440
Thank you for not reading. While yes criticism and opinions are the same. Valid criticism must be an honest expression void of malice intent. Now you maybe expressing yourself honestly but youre doing it maliciously. Making any attempts to perform acts of criticism on said game a moot point because of it.
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>>376329808
Been lurking this board for 4-5 years. Care to give some proofs?
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>>376329886
There is no such thing as valid criticism because everyone's criticism is valid.
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>>376320147
its a boy
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>>376329754
>Not him but do you argue with the people that have actual criticisms of the game?
Of course.
>How would you critique the game anon?
7.5/10 too many shrines and poor dungeons but my personal autism keeps the game interesting. I have about 130h on cemu
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>>376330097
If your only medium is blogs and kotaku, no one is going to take it seriously
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>>376329024
It is you idiot, only desperate contrarians and shitposters disagree, everyone that has played it loved it, it has the highest amount of perfect scores, even dualshockers gave it one, millions of people around the world agree on it being the best Zelda ever and one of the best games ever made and no human amount of autistic screeching will change that.
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>>376330190
just give me the sauce man
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>>376330190
And?
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>>376330192
Which cemu?
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>>376330331
Who cares. Botw is shit.
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>>376330402
1.7.5
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>>376315991
>he actually believes Witcher 3 and BotW were blunders

I want to believe that you are shitposting, I really do m8
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>>376330358
>there's a million shit taste idiots in the world

Sounds about right.
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>>376330645
>Everyone has shit taste but me!
Anon...
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>>376330556
>it's shit because I say so
Thanks for trying kid, next time try to talk shit about a game with flaws and you won't get this desperate.
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>>376330556
Okay, but why is it shit.
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>what I actually got
What does this mean? How can you get something different than what you actually got?
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>>376330645
>unironically trying to pull this tfw to smart too like things bullshit.
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>>376330556
Come on youre not even trying anymore. Just kill yourself already man
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>>376330190
Sauce.
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>>376321607
>7/10 too hard
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>>376330560
I kinda wish I waited to play it on cemu instead of on the wiiU.
BOTW just doesn't feel like the kind of game I'd play again since I've experienced a majority of everything alresdy.
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>>376330997
re-experience it in 3-4 years time
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>>376320147
>>376329524
>>376330363
>>376330945
special delivery

https://exhentai.org/g/736579/aa03e48167/

specifically, page 38 starts it
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>>376331123
>implying everyone knows how to get on that site.

>tfw I'm too lazy to download a plugin or follow steps for a fap.
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Success breeds jealousy and Sonybros and xbone fags are REALLY jealous right now
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>>376331123
thanks my dude now i can leave shitpost central
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>>376331329
you can google most panda urls and find it on some other site
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>>376330619
I know what you mean, I for one love games where the final boss can be killed by holding down one button
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>>376331329
If you want sauce, you are gonna have to learn to use the sadpanda. no exceptions
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>>376320557
I like how even the shitposters have to fall back on the
>i-i-it's a 6/10 g-game at most!! ;;____;;
meme since claiming anything worse would be too absurd even for shitposting.
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>>376332046
Botw is 1 /10 game for being an incomplete mockery of the series.
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>>376324627
>falling for bait
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>>376331329
>plugin
Those plugins are shady.
>or follow steps
You only need to do it once. And knowing how to edit the cookie settings of your browser is a useful skill you should already have anyway.
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>tfw just bought the expansion pack
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>>376332842
>paying $60 + tip for a game
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>>376319882

>starts his post with "Lol yup"
>people still take his post seriously

how fucking hard is it for people to realize someone is just being an asshole?
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>>376332903
>being poor
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>>376314262
Yes? It's honestly one of the best games I've played in years, it's so much better than all these fucking dogshit Assassin's Creed/GTA-
inspired open world games we've had to put up with for years (even if it copies AC with the towers yet still somehow manages to make them not feel like a chore like every AC game does). And despite the efforts of people to make the game look bad, it constantly displays beautiful scenery because the art direction is excellent even if the hardware (Wii U AND Switch) fucking sucks.

I honestly feel bad for people who didn't get to experience BotW this year, they really missed out. You can tell a game is truly great when shitposters dedicate themselves to bringing it down and the best they can do is nitpick.
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>>376333082
Those who spend their money wisely are never poor. That's how rich people stay rich. And poor people like yourself think you aren't.
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>>376333090
It's funny you brought up Assassin and GTA when Botw stole all its features and reskinned it with Zelda. The only difference is you're experiencing it with worse hardware.
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>>376333164
I liked it a lot and want extra content, your autistic screeching won't change anything.
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>>376333256
You can like cock and still come for more, and I know it wont change anything.
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Sometimes I wonder what /v/'s reception of BotW would be if it wasn't "Zelda" and it was either multiplat or PS4 exclusive.
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>>376333316
>comparing buying more of a good thing with taking cock up the ass because you have dick on your mind 24/7
What did anon mean by this?
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>>376333360
I'd still call it trash. The game is pretty incomplete and runs like shit.
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>>376333006
Because there's just one anon in this whole thread that doesn't think the games a 10 right?
How the fuck am I an asshole?
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>>376333467
You've been samefagging desperately this entire thread and convinced nobody that playing a game for 30 minutes is enough to judge it.
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>>376333647
Stop being a deluded whining fag. There's thousands of anons that come across this board everyday and currently nearly 130 of us in the same thread. Stfu with your samefag shit.
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>>376333769
>writes the same shit every time
>430 posts/130 ips
>hurr durr shut up with the samefag shit
When you stop samefagging
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>>376314061
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>>376323716

Ignoring Botw, art style is a lot more valuable than graphics though. A lot old snes, ps1, ps2 games are a lot more visually appealing than some ps3, ps4 games.

And the world in Botw actually looks pretty nice. Especially the sunsets.

Not every game with a tower has to be ubisoft design. You're just using buzzwords now.
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>>376334372
>sunsets
Anon, just don't fucking go there ok. Just don't.
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>>376334372
>Ignoring Botw, art style is a lot more valuable than graphics though.
When you're so cucked that you have to say cel shading looks better than a more detailed color palette, lighting, and better textures
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>>376323871
Honestly I don't get where the bland open world thing comes from. It's the first open world game that I feel I should actually try and pay some attention and notice the things happening around me so I can find cool things.

It's so easy to miss a lot of discoveries in this game and I feel like people are just ignoring their surroundings and only seeing the obvious.

Maybe you just don't have the patience. That doesn't make it bad or lazy, it just means you don't like it.
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>>376334504
Animations are way better in botw, there's a sense of being there thanks to grass reacting to your presense
Horizon is gorgeous but shallow, the world doesn't react to you in any way, you can burn an entire fucking valley in botw.
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>>376334757
You can ignore the "you don't like it".
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>>376334775
If Breath had Horizon's graphics, then you can start talking other things.
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>>376316374
Its a trap!
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>>376334908
No I don't, stylization allows for a more vivid art direction and memorable places, photorrealism looks samey and ages fast.
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>>376335042
Stylization is why we got the lazy cel shading of WW, SS, and now Botw.
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>>376314791
No shit, I was stuck on this part of the game for months. I hadn't played a single Zelda game up until that point other than LttP and I had no idea I could pull on the statues. Felt like a huge fucking idiot after I had figured it out.
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>>376335141
>lazy
It looks absolutely gorgeous and contrasts well with the backgrounds, it also allows for sharper lighting effects.
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>>376335042
It's a crutch.
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>>376334137
BTFO
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>>376335267
No it does not. That's just you justifying Nintendo's lazy art design because their hardware can't handle anymore.

I've developed for Nintendo hardware before. It's not fun. They do shit like that precisely cause their cpu and gpu can't handle anymore.
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>>376334504
???
Don't think I ever mentioned any of those things.
I only said that artstyle is more important.

But if we take your example a game like Ni No Kuni (Cel shaded) looks a more visually appealing and interesting than COD (which is graphically more impressive). And of course there's many cases where Cel shading is looks terrible.

And disregarding all that a game with nicer graphics doesn't make it a better game.

You've been on /v/ too long, you're spewing buzzwords and making up things that you want to see. It's embarrassing.
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>>376320502
Copypasted room with mummy_npc
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>>376334492
What do you mean?
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>>376335493
>using visual appealing and graphically impressive as two different terms

You're a retard.
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>>376335383
>that's just you justifying the art direction
I don't need to, it's breathtaking, it has volumetric lighting and plenty of particle effects on screen at all times, the cel shade allows for more memorable and charismatic character design, it also allows for more distinct animations, the game looks gorgeous.
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>>376335702
I...I don't think you've played non Nintendo games before. Or even seen anything pass a Nintendo platform CG wise.
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>>376335575
There's this one anon that has a whole folder of pics that have to do with sunrays in vidya. Literally every fucking game looks good with sunsets so just don't bring that up as a point. Literally every fucking game he posted had good looking godrays/sunlight.
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>>376335383
Can nothing look good unless it's graphically impressive?
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>>376335842
But I have, is this all you have? Desperate, literally "n-n-n-no you're wrong" tier.
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>>376321512

>it's another shrine with a simple puzzle or tech demo showing off the physics

You can say "simple puzzle," but they're harder than anything from WW, TP, or SS by a longshot. None of them are too difficult, but it's a huge step up for the series.
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>>376335965
No you havent cause only a Nintendo fanboy would say that the lazy tier design that is cel shading is superior.

Donkey Kong Country came out in 1998 and still has a better look than any cel shading.
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>>376335861
Shouldn't detract from it but more games should put them in, they're cool.
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>>376314061
>woah a castle in the distance!
>just a huge rock with some chests (generic loot guaranteed)
>woah a cave, let's go!
>just an empty cave with some minerals in it
B-btfo !
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>>376335702
>memorable and charismatic character design

Bitch, you can't even name 5 NPCs that are non recurring (meaning no vendors or storyline characters).
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>>376336027
The puzzles in botw are meaningless tribble that is less narrative driven and just a minigame that is no different from a warioware game.
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>fans can't accept the fact that BoTW has genuine flaws
>haters can't accept the fact that BoTW destroyed both sony and Microsoft
it's like a fucking poetry.
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>>376336156
You don't even realize that a lot of games do. Even fps games.
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>>376336118
>still overrating DKC
>hating on cel shading and saying it looks bad without any elaboration
>hating on Okami, Killer 7, XIII, Wind Waker and BotW, all gorgeous games because muh realistic graffix
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>>376336179
The little pink Ruto
The lady Goron with a ponytail in Gerudo town
The qt at the Hateno inn
The blonde lady that's a legendary shield surfer
Your mom
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>>376335674
Why shouldn't they be used as separate terms?
If you're the same guy actually give some rebuttal and don't just ignore everything.
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>>376336483
Memorable with no names attached huh LOL
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See that cave beneath Link? Do you know what's inside?
Almost nothing and then a heart piece. It's the equivalent of a Shrine.

Do you know what's to the northeast of Link just outside of the screen? That would be the tower of Hera. And that would be the equivalent of Vah Naboris or Vah Radunia etc.
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>>376336179
Hmm, let's see:

>Bolson
>Guy
>Robbie
>Kohga
>Hudson

Tbh I mostly remember characters by their stand-out traits instead of their names. There are plenty of non-essential characters that are memorable though.

t. another anon
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>>376336564
>memorable character designs
>HURR WHAT ARE THEIR NAMES
lmao
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>>376315410
>super bomber man R
>snake pass
>literally check the fucking online store
>puyo v tetris
>that one f zero indie game
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>>376314262
>lords
Thank God I'm atheist
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>>376336268
To be fair, only Guilty Gear Xrd is any good as far as cel shading goes.
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>>376314791
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>>376321337
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>>376323582
Cause that demo was never real.

And Twilight Princess is the worst 3D Zelda so lol
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>>376321674
Different poster but i think he's saying BOTW falls for the No Mans Sky formula of

You collect and upgrade shit to make it easier to collect and upgrade shit to make it easier to collect etc.
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>>376324627
I'm 23, and my grandfather on my mother's side proudly uses /b/.
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>>376321178
>two extremely different places
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>376321178
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAH
HA
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>>376314875
Worms Armageddon
Spyro 1-3
Crash 1-3
Rayman
Ninja Gaiden Black
Dark Souls
Gta 3, VC, SA and IV
Hitman Blood Money
Halo 3
Halo Wars
Quake
Bloodborne
Gears of War
Tekken 3
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>>376340015
Lol no
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>>376340186
Incase you didn't notice i merely listed all the games i have played in no particular orded
Just for spite
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>>376314443
I value your opinion even less. At your age the only game you should be playing is catch with your son.
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>>376314107
It would be really neat if the next game deliberately immitated the old concept art.
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>>376314262
>not liking something makes be better than someone I seek to belittle

Anon vs. Boolean logic
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>>376333239
Can you find examples that oppose what you are stating?
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>>376317204
yup
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>>376340801
Open world games always sucked.
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>>376340741
Right on, bro.
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>>376340941
I sort of agree.
>>
5 years from now. Will people still be assblasted over Breath of the Wild?
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>>376341282
People are still assblasted over Ocarina of Time, so I'll go with "yes"
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>>376336162
But that's not the castle that's just a rock.

And that's a shrine in the cave.
Not terribly exciting, but also not just some minerals.
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>>376336564
>>376336179

>let me throw you some arbitrary curveballs to attempt proving my useless point
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>>376315717
unironically boring as fuck
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>>376341282
People who didn't play it will still claim that it didn't impress them, and that noone else who wasn't a shill was impressed either.
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>>376330619
>he actually believes Witcher 3 wasn't generic normalfag shit

BotW is fine. The Switch is a blunder. It's geared towards 720p performance and BotW already pushed the system's limits.
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>>376341842
botw is a rushed game that Nintendo forgot to finish.
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>>376323405
Who cares about wether it is realistic? It is fun.
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>>376321196
The ability to snowboard influents your approach to traversal, and thus exploration, immensly.
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>>376321264
>>376321598
>/v/ trying this hard to convince everyone that a well made fun game isn't great.
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>>376314061
Explain that picture like I'm five
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>>376341282
If you want to see butthurt wait until it sweeps awards later this year.
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>>376336179
Rhodson
Rik
Hudson
Bolson
Devil Statue

What a stupid point, as well, my friend.
No one is respecting anything you bring to the table anyways.
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>>376341907
It's an open world game with the usually cut corners.

Fishing and other stuff ommitted because of time constraints.

That's how it goes.

Nintendo ought to have been better though.
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>>376341842
>The Switch is a blunder.

What does that even mean given the current circumstances?

Just that you personally aren't very interested?
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>>376336564
Allow me to show you how moronic you really are:
OoT
>Windmill guy
>construction boss and all his construction guys
>graveyard kid
>Keaton Mask soilder dad
>dying soldier man
>construction boss's emo son
>Skultula curse dad

bitch that's Ocarina alone.
More than half the best NPC's in the entire history of Zelda had no names.

So you tell me, what the fuck matters if you don't remember an NPC's name if they were memorable to you in their appearance, mannerisms, role to the game and your experience?
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