Why do salty papermariofags keep insisting they'll fuck it up?

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>>376313829

I had that you have to start a thread with condensed bait to get any replies nowadays.

>>376313829
Because

Superstar Saga Bros attacks: Quickly executed bros attacks which are built off of the moves they learn throughout the game

Bros attacks now: Convoluted, randomly designated attacks which take forever to do because now you have to go play a game of tennis or something

Also the current sprite style, if you can call it that, is kind of shitty

>>376314339
>current sprite style
>shitty
Get some fucking taste, the current artstyle is great. A lot of SSS's sprites look like shit now, especially Bowser.

>>376314339
I liked the bros attacks in PiT. They were either fast and pretty easy or long, difficult but rewarding.

>>376314549
the lack of outlines is horrendous on the new sprite style

>>376315385
But it isn't, though. Granted, outlines would certainly look better, but it's nowhere fucking near horrendous.
In terms of artstyle,
BiS >= PJ > Dream Team > PiT >> SSS

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Because nintendo has single handedly managed to fuck up just about every remake of a game they've released recently, with exceptions like the pokemon gen 2 remakes, link between worlds, Star Fox, OOT & MM 3D.

Oh and it's because sticker star and color splash were garbage.
Paper Jam was surprisingly alright in my opinion.

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>>376314010

Stop falseflagging. It's obvious they want to retouch (hint hint) the one game that's as far from the status quo as possible. Bowser's Minions? That should key you in on what they'll try to do with the enemies in the game.

>>376315957
>single handedly managed to fuck up just about every remake of a game they've released recently
Name just two because the ones you listed that were "exceptions" are literally the only ones I can remember

Are you counting shit like Star Fox Zero as a "remake"?

>>376315540
Even with artstyle sss was one of the best. Charming cartoony.

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>>376316157
>Bowser's Minions?
That's the new side-game that's replacing the Mario Bros. port that was in the original, retard. Nothing to do with the main game which is the remake.

And why are we even trying to pretend that SSS was all original all the time anyway? It was a healthy middleground with returning enemies, completely new enemies, and new variations of existing enemies. Fair enough you despise Sticker Star or Color Splash that goes way too bland route but go too original and you get those fuck awful deviantArt OC designs that were in Super Paper Mario that was probably the reason Miyamoto pulled in the reins on restricting characters to the Marioverse.

Also Alpha Dream isn't Intelligent Systems, they tend to have a backbone.

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>>376316758
>charming cartoony
That applies to literally every single game in the series. SSS's sprites are just outright primitive compared to even PiT.

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https://www.mariowiki.com/Rex#Mario_.26_Luigi:_Superstar_Saga

We'll be seeing Rexes for the first time since like Super Princess Peach kek

>>376313829
Because there will most likely be no Geno cameo.

>>376317617
>Genofags still exist

Christ

>>376317617
Squeenix owns Geno, you fucking moron. It'll never happen.

>>376316894
As far as Mario goes, it's a breath of fresh air from the gradually sterilization of the series that started with the Gamecube era. Superstar Saga on its own today would be tantamount to Odyssey. And you think that things can't change. Dream Team was four years ago.

>>376319513
I still think you should at least maintain a wait and see approach instead of doomsaying. The only AAAA STERILIZATION moment Mario & Luigi has had is Paper Jam and AlphaDream already gave a thorough explanation for that that had nothing to do with Miyamoto.

I will literally eat my hat if the Beanbean Kingdom becomes the ToadToad Kingdom and the Koopalings are every boss

>>376314339
The sprites have only gotten better with time, desu.

>>376315297
They were fucking awful because spamming them was the only way to defeat the extremely tedious fucking bosses in that game.

>>376313829
I'm willing to bet that they'll give the Koopalings speaking roles this time around (maybe even make them supporting characters) since they're so prominent nowadays and they even have the Paper Jam assets for them.

>>376319975
>he didnt play the EU version

Its like an official balance patch for the game

>>376319975
>>376320009
Is there a difference? I played the eu one

>>376319994
>I'm willing to bet that they'll give the Koopalings speaking roles this time around (maybe even make them supporting characters) since they're so prominent nowadays and they even have the Paper Jam assets for them.
No reason not to so long as they don't take the place of any of the other bosses in the game. The assets *are* there and I always thought their role in the original while refreshing at the time, was kind of pointless. A boss rush was a good idea but they were too easy to fight even with the timer bob-omb and kind of fucked over Bowser's Castle

>>376320104
NA version released first and the stats are unbalanced so all the enemies are basically damage sponges who scale too highly. AlphaDream saw this and fixed stats for EU/JP versions which released later.

>>376316623
There was a Star Fox 64 3DS remake, which was quite alright.

>>376320187
>>376319975
Thanks for being the guinnea pig mate

>>376315957
>Oh and it's because sticker star and color splash were garbage.
>Paper Jam was surprisingly alright in my opinion.
So why are you worried about the game that's being made by the company that made Paper Jam and not by the one that made Sticker Star and Color Splash?

>>376313829
maybe because they actually did it?

>>376320236
Anon I replied to counted that one as an "alright" remake which is why I asked him what the supposedly shit remakes were because he listed pretty much all the ones Nintendo did this generation as "alright".

>>376313829
>holy nintendo can't fuck up
neck yourself, nintenbro

>original game: 16 MB
>remake: 550 MB

>Paper Jam: 500 MB
>Dream Team: 700 MB

What could go wrong?

>>376319636
I don't need to wait and see. I already own the original game from launch. At best, it'll be the same game with the Dream Team artstyle and reimagined Bros. attacks. At worst, it'll be just like you said, the Mario elements will overtake the game.

Go ahead and spew your pessimist buzzword, I don't care.

>>376321029
>At best, it'll be the same game with the Dream Team artstyle and reimagined Bros. attacks
Dream Team already had stuff like Popple and Beanish people, so they wouldn't even have to make them from scratch.

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>>376321029
>I already own the original game from launch.
So what's the issue?

>>376317646
>smash roster faggotry is likely coming sooner rather than later
end me

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>>376314339
>>376319652

>>376321534
Nice to know Nintendo has embraced Toadsworth's inner trans, very accepting times we live in

he hasnt appeared in a game since dream team, it's almost sad

>>376321534
Toadsworth got a sex change operation

>>376313829
I wish it was a Switch game and not a 3DS one.
Holy shit, why can't they ignore that 7 years old piece of shit already? It's nuts.

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Can't wait to see bestgirl with better sprites and hopefully official artwork

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>>376321639
>>376321641
Toadsworth ironically didn't fit in with the changing Toad times, so he had to be replaced with a more progressive and forward-thinking female character.

He was just too unique a Toad.

>>376314339

Not only that, but the variations to the bros attacks were amazing.

>>376321193
The issue is the original game, with its unique setting and characters will be 'revisioned' to keep in sync with the status quo established. Saving one or two characters won't mean anything.

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>>376315957

>link between worlds
>remake

>>376321639
Dream Team was only a few years ago, don't get so upset. Toadsworth isn't even close to Koopaling-tier absence.
While it is weird that he WAS absent from Paper Jam, Toadette wasn't even in the games from the beginning. And she pretty much got the boot from the Paper games last I checked (last appearance was in TTYD I think)

>>376321932
Unique setting is a stretch. There was a desert, there were woods, there were grasslands, the ice world, the beach, the mountain, the ocean, the ruins, (literally) Bowser's Castle again. Not unique concepts in the slightest, especially not long after the game's launch where we've been subjected to even further Mario games that have abused these environments, but the execution of these locations is what you should have specified.

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>>376313829
this represents the end of original characters

>>376322313
>the remake of a game that used original characters and settings will go through an almost predatory effort at whitewashing the original game's creativity with sterilization because it just so happened to release after a game that was only sterile out of its own accord

? ? ?

Whats going on? Is there a Super Star Saga remake announced or what?

>>376322313
I'm really not seeing it lad.

At most, at absolute most, I see the Koopalings getting an expanded role, just because the assets are already there and because they can.

Paper Mariofags have gone off the fucking deep end

>this thread
Can someone tell me what the hell is going on here?

>people who hate sticker star
>people who hate paper jam
>people who hates the new M&L and PP era

What a bunch of retards. These games have been fine but you niggers can't live with MUH NOSTALGIA SHIT.

Adapt or just don't play it.

>>376322636
>>376322821
Remake found in the eShop by data miners with title key, OP image is the home menu icon and a Kotaku journalist saw that same icon when going to the home menu of a New 2DS XL at a preview event for Hey! Pikmin/Ever Oasis.

>>376313829
Because they keep fucking it up.

>>376322857
Well that's fucking amazing
It'd be cool if we got more secret Bros moves like Swing Bros

>>376322667
I really do hope they give them at least a few lines in Bowser's Castle

>>376321639
Toadsworth had only appeared in M&L for years too, so he'll probably stop showing up altogether if he's dropped from future original installments of the sub-series.

Similar to E.Gadd, except he had the luxury of a new Luigi's Mansion coming out where of course he would star.

>>376322982
>Because they keep fucking it up.
Everyone keeps saying this but they never explain why. Literally what are they fucking up?

Paper Mario, sure, okay, I don't need a lecture on that, but this is Mario & Luigi, not Paper Mario, literally not a speck of Paper Mario to be found in this fucking remake. It's not the same developer as Paper Mario, it's not the same people, there's no Tanabe, no Miyamoto, none of these magic mean old bogeymen who took Paper Mario away from you.

>>376313829
Reminder that BiS was the peak of the series and nothing will ever amount to even half of that game

>>376323319
Remember that you're a shit-eating barafag that willingly overlook the game's significant flaws.

>>376322667
ignore paper mario babies they tend to be wearing rose tinted glasses.

SSS > BIS > PiT > PJ > DT
Prove me wrong.
You can't

>>376323628
SSS is too easy.

Paper Mario fans are desperate to pretend that Paper Mario changing it's formula is due to Miyamoto's influence and not due to a natural evolution of the formula. Mario and Luigi stands in the way of that narrative.

Watch someone like Arlo try to justify why he doesn't like Mario and Luigi games. It basically boils down to the games being too hard for him.

>>376323628
Haven't played PJ, but you're right

>>376323628
DT>SSS>PJ>BIS>PiT
you can't prove opinions wrong but I can still call you a loser

>>376323803
If you disliked Dream Team's decisions in game design, almost certainly give Paper Jam a try

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>>376314010

>>376323747
>not due to a natural evolution of the formula
they had no fucking reason to change it in the first place
Thats why people say the best paper marios are 64 and ttyd and faggot ass nigger cock suckers like you say sticker star and color splash are the best

>>376324485
Now apply hq2x.

>>376324501
They did.

Mario and Luigi, a franchise developed by the very same people who made the very first Mario RPG, came into being. It took the idea of a Mario themed turn based RPG game and took it to the next level with it's unique combat system.

Traditional Paper Mario games had no reason to exist after that. The combat in those games simply can't compete.

We need a Super Mario RPG remake for switch.

Longer story, more party members, and combination attacks.

>>376324820
>>376323747
Fuck off Cody

>>376323628
I honestly can't argue with that. It's not even nostalgia because I replayed SSS recently and I still loved it.
I just love Superstar Saga's setting and lack of gimmicks.

name a single Nintendo game in the past decade that didn't fuck up? Even MK8 and Deluxe fucked up

>>376323628
>PiT

Ha ha, no.

All the others are great games.

>>376325196
>>376324918

>>376325083
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

>>376325083
Define fuck up.
Nintendo games,while often mediocre, are almost never actively bad (except the cdi ones).

>>376323628
SSS>DT>BIS>PJ>PiT
SSS is far too easy, I hope the remake changes that.

If you don't rate dt as the worst you better rethink your life choices

>>376325342
>Mediocre

It's cute that people still pretend this is the case. It's 2017. Nintendo is the ONLY company that has consistently put out a variety of games that people like this decade.

[spoilerFromSoftware just makes Souls clones, I'm talking actually different IPs and franchises][/spoiler]

>>376322289
It was still unique, you're forgetting the Woohoo University, the Chuckola Cola brewery, Joke's End, the BeanBean Airport, Chucklehuck Woods, Hoohoo Mountain, Teehee Valley, Oho Oasis and so on. They didn't have the Mario aesthetic, the go-to aesthetic they use today. That alone make the ones mentioned unique along with the examples given.

>>376325318
>cancerous roster waifufaggotry
>removes firehopping
>200cc
>car commercial
>amiibo
>unbalanced double item mechanic

>>376325342
>but they're never bad! They load and don't randomly crash! They also don't go into single digit framerates so they're not bad!
Good job on establishing that. It doesn't really mean anything. Whether they're bad or mediocre is just your definition.

>>376325591
>>cancerous roster waifufaggotry
smash autist detected

>>376325532
>not PiT
maybe you need to rethink your life choices

>>376325558
>cody
Please

>>376325662
If you genuinely think a waifu dog and a loli squid aren't terrible then you're part of the problem.

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>>376325680
>>376324918
>not filtering
stop giving him attention

>>376325083
Every one barring Sticker Star and Star Fox Zero.

>>376325854
Who?

>>376325821
ooooh, i'm so sorry they didn't add your sammy wammy and meme falcon in Mario Kart, Sakurai.

>>376325928
What are you shitting about? I don't play tr4sh either. Do you not fucking understand how a post complaining about EVERY NINTENDO GAME IN THE PAST DECADE INCLUDING MK8 also includes whatever the fuck you say?

>>376313829
don't you need to be 18+ to post on 4chan? why do so many people keep discussing children's games?

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Cody, this is your big opportunity to publicly BTFO a "pretendo" once and for all

stop being a pussy and go debate with him