Is this the perfect Fire Emblem game?

>>376305075
It had some great maps, but the story is one of the worst in FE history and the waifu stuff was tacked on as hell.

>>376305241
Oh I agree. I just skip the story to be honest.

>>376305075
not perfect but it has fantastic maps and music,which are the two most important things in FE.haven't played them all so I can't really say which one is closest to perfection

Balance is wacky, along with the obvious complaints of featurebloat and awful story/characters. Definitely a step in the right direction from Awakening, but has a ways to go.

>>376305075
Playing this on hard was one of the most rewarding experiences of my gaming life, fight me

>>376305603
Conquest isn't AS featurebloated as Awakening. The only questionable thing is the kids.

>>376305075
(lol

>>376305649
Agreed, shit's satsifying. Took like 20 tries on Chapters 10, 20, and 23 but it was worth it. On chapter 24, hoping to catch some falcon knights for endgame.
>See Setsuna
>35 speed
>Doubles almost whole party
>Damages heavily the rest
How do I approach this? Maybe send in a generic as bait?

>>376305786
I used a Nosferatu Odin to tank most of that map.

>>376305659
What's featurebloat?

>>376305075
Not with that story

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No

>>376308263
Thracia will be hype when the menus are finally fixed. I can already feel that it will bust my ass open if people say it is harder than Conquest on Lunatic.

>>376307942
Too much shit. Awakening had it. They wanted to fit everything in and it just sucked.

>>376305786
I think one way to approach safely outside of having someone tank, since she's flanked by Onmyojis I think, is to wait until Hinoka activates her Vein. Now that Setsuna's team has their movement reduced, move your units in close enough so that when it expires, or you activate your vein you can rush in and murder all of them.

>>376308840
What specific features are you talking about? The only thing I had a problem were the kids.

>>376309150
In Awakening? Paralogues, DLC, Renown, reclassing, eugenics. Basically turns the post-game into a huge grind. Also stat caps and growths are ultra bloated.

>>376309103
Yeah that's what I did. Clearly not viable if you're a LTC autist though. Also make sure to exhaust Azama's fun rods before attempting any strategy.

>>376308414
>people say it is harder than Conquest on Lunatic.
It's not

>>376309580
To what would you compare it then?

>>376309404
I like how the Wiki itself says True Apotheosis is impossible without Limit Break.

>>376309960
Is it though?

>>376309960
Someone beat it with Sorc Morgan and some other units, so is not impossible.

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>>376309637
Its what you have to do, enemy stats aren't really that good,. It's how they are place and what's happening on the map, that gives 5 its challenge. Conquest Lunatic is like between 12 Maniac (very challenging, but doable) and 12 Lunatic (Bullshit)

>>376305075
Conquest is great, but the 3 SNES games, Tellius Duo-logy, and 12 are better

>>376305075
>waifu faggotry
>casual triangle
>terribad character design
>muh special snowflake lord
>stances
>reclassing
>only half a shit game
>shit maps as is the par for nu-FE

Nah, it's a garbage game all around. Fates, Awakening, and Heroes are all mistakes. Garbage games and the people who like them are fake FE fans.

>>376311832
>Sorc Morgan
pls man that's literally cheating

>>376312027
This post is an embarrassment.

>>376312921
This post is your typical non-argument of a nu-FE """"""""""""""""""""fan"""""""""""""""""""".

>>376312027
...Casual triangle?

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>>376313121
Think he means Bows, Daggers, and Magic being in the same weapon triangle as swords, axes, and lances. Rather have bows and magic be neutral to the three again and daggers gone in FE Switch

It had maybe 3 exceptional maps. I won't say it's as bad as shitposters are saying, I even liked a sizeable amount of the cast, but I wouldn't put it high up in my favourite FEs.

Or maybe I would, lately I've realised that I don't care about FE that much beyond Jugdral and Elibe.

>>376305503
It has some fantastic maps and some awful ones like the stairs, windmap, foxmap, and the last one

"I'm going to show them my peaceful ways by conquering their entire country and murdering half the royal family!" - you
"Everyone loves you Mary Sue and we will totally go to war over you" - everyone else

>>376313091
The waifu part may be true but can safely be ignored if you don't like it, while anything else is opinionable or straight up false ("casual triangle", seriously?).

>>376313452
windmap was pretty cool

>>376313452
Well foxmap at least looks pretty.

>>376313637
>safely be ignored if you don't like it
The same can be said about nu-FE. Which I do. But that doesn't change the fact that it actively detracts from the game since it replaces a more nuanced (better) system, alignments. Once again, it removes the need for developers to intelligently allocate support allignments based on character classes and growths because fuck it, anyone can at minimum A rank anyone.

It's hardly opinionable that the way characters look in Fates, Nohr especially is overly fanciful and barely resembles functional armor. Hoshido being a much more ceremonial culture, and being based on a real culture with pants-on-head retarded arms/armor gets a bit more of a pass.

Having your Lord, your mainstay unit be a dragon isn't subjectively stupid either, dragons were introduced far later in games before, since the idea was they went up against enemy dragons, other immensely powerful units, while being vulnerable in human form. And that you had a well leveled and established army by the time you got them. Your Lord playing your own Jeigan, another shitty design decision, can't be called "good" unless you purposely ignore why it's a huge problem.

I'd keep going but we've established you're a fucking retard. So do us all a favor and stay out of my series from now on, probably kill yourself too. Just to be safe.

>>376314473
>anyone can at minimum A rank anyone.
stopped reading there

>>376305075
Is this game really that bad?

>>376305075
>that plot
>that Mary Sue protagonist

No.

>>376314473
Your lord being powerful has been super common, almost half the games do this (including the very first one, famicom marth is a pussy smasher)

>>376314901
But that doesn't make it GOOD. It wasn't good in famicom Shadow Dragon, it wasn't good in Path of Radiance, it's not good in Fates. Lord-only runs can be fun, but when they fuck over the standard play, and to the degree that a Dragon Lord does, it's sucks and is boring. imagine if in Sacred Stones, Ephraim had and could use a Dragonstone from the start, the rest of your party wouldn't fucking matter. Amelia? Please. Ross? Give me a fucking break, who needs that dumb shit you've got a fucking Dragon that can still double on your off turn thanks to still being able to attack with a Lance.

>>376314605
Relative to other FE games, yes. Literally built for waifufagging, story is so laughably bad you might as well skip it, the weapon triangle is dumbed down even further, the characters are pretty shit and it's basically a reskinned Fates with less content.

>>376315610
>weapon triangle is dumbed down even further
How so? And even further relative to what? I'm going to assume you're referring to the removal of the Anima and Magic Trinity.

>>376312027
I think Fates is awful and your post still managed to make me cringe.

Birthright or Conquest??

I heard Birthright has a better story.

>>376312027
I dont give a shit about FE. Only waifus matter.

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>>376305075
It's up there, but I'd argue that FE5 was the best, most compelling game in terms of strategy. FE4 has maps that are... kind of objectively bad, but has unparalleled storytelling and worldbuilding, also the only game to do children right. Radiant Dawn and FE12 are also pretty top-tier imo

>>376314473
The funny thing is that Dragonstones are gimmicky and awkward, cannot double and scale with magic so they aren't even that big a deal and several Lords are WAY stronger than Corrin like Sigurd and Ike. Corrin is only a big deal because of how much EXP the game force feeds him in the tutorial chapters.

>>376314605
It's not really. Remember, you are on /v/ which has some pretty acerbic posters.

The story of Fates, but especially Conquest is by far the lowest part of it. It's not particularly coherent.

The gameplay, on the other hand, is quite good. Conquest has actually challenging maps and varied objectives that aren't "rout".

>>376316601
Conquest for no grinding + much harder maps.
Birthright for a more coherent story and grinding.

>>376316601
Birthright is pretty trash in the gameplay department, it's good as a tutorial for people who've never played an SRPG in their lives

go with Conquest

>>376312027
>Muh special snowflake Lord
>When we have part-dragon Harem Lord Roy that wields a sword that makes other Prf weapons look like Iron Swords by comparison
>Or Ike the Godslayer who can do no wrong and can kill whoever he wants to the point where another Mary Sue in the game needs to point that out

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looking forward to getting Echoes later this month

I know the maps aren't great, but it's enjoyable as more of an RPG, and the closest thing to Shining Force to come out in a while

Gray is the best dude

>>376316813
>Can finally pair units for their own story and your own preferences without having to worry if the kid is good or not.

The whole kid mechanic should be removed, it's fucking retarded.

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>>376316967
but there aren't kids in Gaiden, what are you talking about?

though I agree that the mechanic shouldn't be blindly added to every game

Conquest is one of the hardest games and thracia is the best game in terms of gameplay and story integration

>>376317095
>tfw there won't be a good thracia translation in your lifetime

>>376317215
We can only pray for an echoes remake of thracia in 6 years time

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did they do this justice in the remake?

>>376305075
Nope. Most of the maps are shit, it requires very little strategy, the story is shit, the characters are shit. It's closer to a JRPG than a strategy game.

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Leave Ike to me

>>376317345
>Tfw they kept the shield throw in but they turned it into a fucking cutscene when what made it so cool in the first place was that it was an attack in the battle itself

>>376317284
They have remade everything except Genealogy and Thracia, haven't they?

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>>376317081
this art doesn't sit right with me
it's probably the hands, they look like they should be resting on something

>>376317081
That's the point of what that anon is saying. In Fates/FE14 units had a finite amount of ways that they could be paired if you wanted the kids to actually be good, which you did, since they were for the most part better than their parents in every way if you bred them right. In Echoes, you won't have to.

>>376317284
If they make any more 3DS FE games they will probably be those remakes.

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Loved Awakening, couldn't fucking stand any of fates.

>>376317569
6 and 7 still could get remakes

>>376317683
they've said SoV is their last 3DS game

>>376316813
Gray and Tobin's hilarious bromance is fucking great.

>I....erm...well....uh.....
>Shut up Tobin

>>376316967
U wot m8, Gaiden doesn't have that.

And they fucking casualised the inheritence compared to Fire Emblem 4 as well, pairings in that game would make or break a unit. It's incredibly easy now.

>>376317683
They already confirmed that Echoes is the last 3DS game.
If we ever get 4/5 remakes, it will be on the Switch after the new mainline game.

>>376317569
Only remakes so far are 1, 2 and 3.

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>>376317795
>HD Jugdral remakes on switch

>>376317620
>for the most part better than their parents in every way if you bred them right.

Really? I generally heard they weren't worth using or are otherwise around even. My personal experience is mixed, since I've only ever used some of them. The only ones I felt were particularly powerful were Ophelia and Percy. Nina was OK, Forrest sucks because he's slow.

The plot had so much potential, but it was ruined by shitty writers and an even shittier localisation. Really, the game introduced so many interesting concepts, like the tribes, the skies changing over the kingdoms, and Valla, but it was just so poorly delivered. Not to mention the plot was driven by THE most whiney, generic gary-stu protag in all history. It was a complete shitshow compared to what it could have been really

>>376317908
>The Great Sigurd Cucking
>In 3D
>With voice acting

>>376317997
Azura definitely seems like a late addition to the story, trying to recapture the Lucina lightning-in-a-bottle and basically being the Zoroark to her Lucario

I swear she's the root of most of the game's story problems

>>376317973
Ophelia, Percy, Velouria and Shiro are fucking great almost no matter when, giving them good moms makes them amazing.

>>376317502
Its still in battle, just reserved animation for the last hit.

when's the next "/v/ plays FE"?

>>376318331
Yeah, but it's cinematic as fuck, all those changing angles kills the mood.

>>376317973
Like I said, you need to breed them right and give them the right skills. Pretty much all of them can be godly if done correctly, unless their parent is just complete shit.

>>376318130
I liked Azura's appeal as a female protag and as a qt, and Lost In Thoughts is a great song. But yeah, by the end of the three paths you will realise how shitty of a character she was.

>so, garon is a monster and we need to stop him, what should we do?
>umm, tell the nohrian siblings to meet at the chasm to tell them about garon's true form?
>nah fuck that lets invade hoshido, killing hundreds including the hoshidan family to have garon sit on a magical fucking chair

>>376318507
With so many good Gen 1's and a ton of finnicky Gen 2's, there is no point in optimising all of them anyway.

>>376318590
I liked Lost in Thoughts maybe the first three times

but it was used waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much and lost its charm for me

>>376318441
Its essentially the same effect in the original.
You select the attack option, you watch the animation play out. It's still a unique animation you don't see anywhere else in the game so there's no real issue.

I put 19 hours into Birthright and have not played Conquest. Should I give it a try or am I better off just starting off on Awakening and then the newest release?

>>376318716
True, it is overused.

Have to admit though, still found myself putting that song on months after I completed all three games, both English and Japanese.

>>376318807
Yeah, I'm more irritated by how janky it looks.

>>376318813
if you've played Birthright, you've prety much played Awakening

try Conquest or one of the other games in the series

>>376318879
It looked fine. I think you're being over melodramatic.

>>376318320
>Shiro
Ah, I've never used him. Perhaps I should have tried him in the reverse Conquest I played. I never bothered to actually get any of the Birthright exclusive children except Mitama because I like Azama.

>>376318507
Yes, I find that Dwyer is a shit. Perhaps if he were given a physical mother.

>>376318813
Do you want to play a game that forces you to make more strategic decisions? Then yes, Conquest.

>>376318865
I never really minded the song that much just because I liked it so much. Although, yes it would have been nice if she had some other songs. I especially like the final boss themes though.

>>376305075
Conquest gives me hope that Echoes will be good

Are the non-English scripts in the European version based on Treehouse trash? I just started it, but I was considering if I would be better off playing it in moon rather than in Italian

>>376318928
I'm fairly new when it comes to FE, my experience with the series is playing the GBA games when they were first released 10+ years ago and Birthright.

So Awakening is not worth playing, then?

>>376319057
I mean, the story isn't as crap as Fates', but Pair-up is really broken and unrefined in it and there aren't really interesting maps in it, it would be pretty much a step backward from BR

so I'd say either Conquest or try emulating one of the other games in the series

>>376315572
Dragonstones are not even remotely gamebreaking in Fates though (also the much better + version is obtained very late in the game), they just turn your MU into a passable tank which can't really fight back since they're magical, melee locked and disable double attacks.

>>376319019
Conquest being good doesn't really do anything for a remake of gaiden.FE Switch will most likely be good however

Fates (at least Conquest) fixed some of the balance issues in Awakening. It wasn't as easy to grind your units into being OP af
>level 60 assassin swordmaster witch dragon Olivia
>"yamete I'm so embarassed uguuuuuu~~~~~"
>crit and 5 skills activate
>land 999 damage
>see my goofy neckbearded grin reflected as the 3DS screen turns to black

>>376319016
I'd highly recommend \ recruiting Shiro because not only is he a super good unit (especially with titty ninja as the mother), but he has a ton of personality. Unlike Siegbert that worships Xander, Shiro argues with Ryoma all the time and tells him his Japanese "hierarchy and honorabru stuff" is bullshit.

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I want FE Switch to have the map designers behind Conquest, the storytelling/worldbuilding of FE4, the unit balance/inspired mechanics of Thracia, the artist of Echoes, and the likeable cast of PoR

this is a pipedream though of course

>>376317697
Couldn't get a grip of the improved paired-up system, uh? Man being braindead sure must be hard.

>>376319016
>Although, yes it would have been nice if she had some other songs
Bruh the dark song. I know it's just a variation of Lost in Thoughts but the middle eastern-y vibe is funky as hell. And Azura's outfit and dancing in that cutscene make my penis the big penis.

Wish there was a full version.

>>376319401
>>376319401
They will get that team but they'll arrange like this.

Map design of FE4, story telling from Conquest, Unit Balance of PoR and art from Thracia.

no, and it's incredible apparent that 90% of the people calling 14 "amazing best fe game" are just redditors who have maybe played fe7 when they were like 10

fe5 is more compelling strategically/gameplay-wise, fe4's story/characters are incredible and it has a better marriage system. the base elements of 14 were cool, all 3 of them were pretty good (birthright bored me out of my skull though). and somehow, kamui was even more lifeless and fucking boring than the FE12 avatar, who might as well not be a character. kamui was a mistake

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>>376319598
god that sounds awful

except for Thracia art, it was pretty gud

>>376305075
Best modern one but they really have a lot of room to improve.

>>376319401
I'm not fond of Echoes art

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>>376319598

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>>376305075
>(((Treehouse))) cabal inserting their feminine penises (male) all over it
I guess it's perfect if you played the JP version

>>376319309
I kind of spoiled myself on that front since I've read some of Shiro's supports. Like where he tells Ryoma flat out that he didn't raise him at all. Which was a pretty amusing line. Very self aware, unlike every other child who doesn't really seem to have a problem with it.

>>376319524
Yeah, that song's catchy.

>Tfw those fucking allied reinforcements in Revelations chapter 18
>Fucking Odin

>>376319880
Don't forget
>ugh can't believe there's a literal date rape scene [triggered] shut it down
>saizo: ... beruka: ...
>RAWR that means i love u in dragon xDD

>>376319891
Definitely try and recruit Kagero! Shiro, he will have over 70% strength growth because of Kagero's stronk genes.

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>marry Tharja in Awakening
>marry Camilla in Conquest
>marry Reina in Birthright

who #patrician here

>>376316410
Making magic into what is little more than swords with 1-2 range was a mistake and nerfed mages into uselessness. What is even the point of Dark Knights using swords and tomes?

Bows being green made archers even more useless.

Shurikens and knives being blue makes no sense to me because now they're just javelins that do debuffs.

There were so many opportunities to make this triangle decent. Like if different tomes and bows were in different colors for example.

>>376319880
>play japanese version
>plot still sucks ass and felicia is even more annoying

clearly the bathing suits and getting to attack my 3DS screen fix every issue in Fates

>>376319902
Pairup Leo with Xander and just let it handle everything while moving away the garbo retainers and moving to the right some reinforcements. Did it first try on Lunatic.

>>376319524
Not really a full version, but the official OST has the Dark Song without Garon grunting in the back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHQHmx88StQ
Jap only tho

>>376320137
Literally me

>>376320146
>Shuriken are supposed to be supportive weapons that do low damage
>If you get a Shuriken user with high strength the unit can solo most of the game, just beware for Archers

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>>376305075
Post the team you beat Conquest with.

>>376305075
I stopped at chapter 25 in hard, my spirit just can't take it anymore.
Half my family is dead and i have to take 3 useless character to fill my team to get 10 units, it's borderline torture right now.

>>376320207
It's actually better to pair up Odin to Leo and La'slow or Peri to Xander since both Xander and Leo are promoted and both can fight.

I was talking more of of garbage the retainers are when you get them.

>>376320137
Nice job picking the most common pairings you pleb
Only good one is Reina

If you like anime harem stories in your "S"RPGs then yes.

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>>376305075
no way shill
isn't your contract for echoes english release coming up soon? better get practicing for that one

>>376320351
I don't think Ch25 is even remotely possible without at least one Shurikenbreaker unit.

>>376320305
Interestingly enough, Effie has a relatively high speed growth and can become a powerful Great Knight.

>>376320137
Did 2/3 of that. Married Felicia in Birthright. You may be a sucker for cowtits but at least you're not a maidfag like me.

married azura in revelation too

>>376320461
canon classes only desu

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>>376320137
>Marry Tharja
>Marry MegaTharja
>Patrician

>>376319467
>he can only brag about the casual system being slightly easier

>>376320441
In my case, I don't think it's possible without Rescue/Entrap staffs.

>>376320441
beat it in 2 turns with strong corrin critical

>>376320542
Ah, that's different then. I don't like reclassing either beyond an MU, but split promotions I like to experiment with.

>>376320554
>easier
>when Robin+Chrom could literally solo the entire game without ever getting once and orko anything
pls

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>>376320430
Would this count?

>>376320585
Those chests and that delicious experience though.

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>enter fire emblem general on /vg/
>ask them about whats up with the new Echoes title
>all they talk about is their shitty mobile cash cow

Oh, how I hate that place..

>>376320461
>Be me
>Use Effie
>Fucking destroyer
>Get to chapter 20, enemies are promoted now
>She starts fucking dying
>Lv15/9 Great Knight
>23 Def
>20 Spd
Fugg

>>376320756
Are we still talking about Camilla or...

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>>376320770
welcome to the FE fanbase as of 2017, enjoy your stay

>>376320570
I could see why you'd need the entrap staff, but why the rescue?

That's not Birthright,

>>376320770
Echoes is actually awful, but you convince yourself it's fun until you get like 12 hours in and realize holy shit this is the most boring thing ever

>>376320801
Yeah, that's why Effie should go Great Knight, her defences aren't as good as Benny and her speed is hilariously good. Hell, I've had faster Effies than Silas' sometimes.

>>376320770
Really? Serious FE fans still give a shit about Heroes? Fucking gacha games man

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>>376320053
>>376320148
It's not just about the 2d ass and tiddies my man

>>376320826
>tfw looking forward to joining /feg/ to talk about Echoes
>everyone says they've already played the game and there's nothing to talk about anymore

>>376319401
unit balance is one of thracia's worst aspects

>>376320909
>Liking Birthrout: Featuring Spikes

>>376314473
>Your Lord playing your own Jeigan
What did he mean by this?

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>>376305075
Really...

>>376321019
I've never understood why people complain so much about routing when routing is still the better strategy even in Conquest since experience is limited.

>>376320963
The moral of that picture is never let nu-males localise your nip games

>>376320926
I just want the story/characters to not suck ass like in Fates.
I can deal with gameplay on the level of the GBA titles to be honest. Hell, I'm playing Shining Force 2 on virtual console right now.

>>376305075
I hated how no female character had her own child, except for the MC and Azura, and also how most support dialogues sucked ass. Of course that happened because they tried to make as many available couples as possible, sacrificing quality in the name of quantity, but I'd rather read 5 interesting conversations than 50 shitty ones. Awakening was much more balanced in this regard.

>>376321078
>left looks tamer
>mfw you get to the lunge puppets part

>>376320963
>the fan translation

Certainly less dumb jokes but Kana going"I'm happy also I'm happy" isn't good. The entire fan translation was an unnecessary joke and waste of time considering how half of tthe dialogue ended up being rushed. Someone post Shura's level up line.

Official translation is bad but the fan one is a joke.

>>376320926
Elaborate, nigger

>>376320137
>Anna
>Charlotte
>Selkie
I dont know why people like Tharja

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>>376321078
Oh man you're in treat when you get to that part in Lunatic.

>Promoted units and class changed units have to start from E weapon rank every time, and weapon exp grows fuck slow
defend this

>>376320841
>>376320841
I used Rescue + Dancing to make sure Velouria could kill the Countermagic dude and come back safely, then bait the Spy Shuriken ninjas and kill one at a time.
The biggest obsctacle are the ninjas who deal 30% damage everytime while lowering your defenses, it's fucking ridiculous.

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>>376320137
Caeldori, Ophelia, Rhajat here.

>>376321078
Thank god for unlimited turns. I had to go full-on attrition with this one
>benny pair in front equipped with javelin
>Elise to his left, out of range
>Felicia nearby
>Camilla next to Benny out of range
So Benny took 0 damage from everything and stuck a Javelin up everything's ass(except the Spy Shuriken guys)
His health depleted to 1 because of the abilities, but they couldn't actually kill him.

>>376321334
Just buy our 2 bucks DLC goy.

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>>376321301
>jew
>golddiger

shit taste desu senpai

selkie is 10/10 daughteru tier, don't fucking lewd her you degenerate

>>376320137
Tharja in Awakening,went for Nowi in my second playthrough
Camilla in Conquest
Orochi in Birthright
Charlotte in Revelations

>>376321556
>let's play RAPE now!
She lewds herself my dude

>>376321301
Marrying the furries may seem like a fun idea at first but then you realize your Kana will be weak to fuck everything.

>>376321241
>Send Xander + Effie on the left
>What could go wrong
>Press Start
>Xander is now 5 meters away from where I left him
>Also he's dead
No game I played in recent memory punished my recklessness harder than Conquest.

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>>376321245
And this?

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>>376321241
You know I actually like what they did with the chapters where there are two sides and two routes that imply you should do them simultaneously so you try to make balanced parties, but then they throw reinforcements at you and you don't have enough people to counter attack so eventually I just said "FINE! WANNA PLAY? EVERYONE GET ON THIS SIDE" and I just steam roll both sides with all units.

>>376321317
Yeah, I don't play FE on Lunatic. Like ever.

>>376321485
That's pretty much the only answer with the poison strike + Grilsly wound bullshit. Gotta say, the skills in this game is what really makes it shine. Can't wait for FE switch.

>>376321078
Trigger warning please. That place is such a nightmare on Lunatic. I usually have to cheese it with Rescue, Freeze, Shuriken-breaker and the like.

>>376321241
Fuck the Lunge hallway, that shit is so annoying. I have yet to ever complete it without using Freeze. Thank god you get like upwards of like 20 uses of Freeze.

>>376320137
>Cordelia in awakening
>Odin in conquest
>Hana in birthright
>Flora in revelations

>>376321506
That's all fine and good for normal exp but weapon exp is pretty much ungrindable because it's so slow, and you can't farm arms scrolls. You'll only get 3 in the game (2 from shop, 1 from a chapter, you won't get the eternal staircase one)
>my castle battles give supports
>but not wexp

Is the fan translated GBA FE game worth playing?

>>376321667
The good thing about Conquest is that there's no much room for mistake once you find a working strategy. Well unless the game decides to crit your ass with a 4% chance and make you miss with a 92% chance.

>>376321796
It was too hard for me.

>>376321796
You mean Roy's game? If you don't mind Reinforcements attacking in the same turn they spawn, go for it.

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Can we all agree this is best girl

>Shadow Gift from Elise
>Vantage from Odin
>Miracle and Tomefaire from Corrin
>Strategist class + Nosferatu

She becomes impossible to kill because of her crazy high luck

>>376321983
>>376321962
Is it significantly harder than the other GBA games? I don't mind trial and erroring my way through within reason.

>>376320963
They're both cringy and bad.

>>376321796
FE6? It's a little rough aroubd the edges but still good. You have to have some tolerance for bullshit though, reinforcements move on the same turn they appear and there's a desert chapter where you have to babysit a retarded kid. Supports also move SUPER slow.

>>376321713
ok that's better

>>376321713
>sophie never calls your character daddy
Feelsbadman

>>376322074
>within reason
(lol
This map has wyvern riders spawning every turn. EVERY. TURN.
Hope you like enemy turns that last 3 hours without fast forward.

>>376322074
It's kind of hard for the wrong reasons. Roy is notorious for being one of the worst lords. Unless you get lucky with him you better be ready to drag his ass across all the maps because all the maps are seize.

Other annoyances include gates/thrones having ludicrous bonuses so the bosses are all kind of hard to hit.

Spoilers for the ending if you care.
Getting the true ending has some requirements that you might consider very annoying.

>>376321713
Isn't Sophie supposed to be the Cynthia of Fates? I think it's ok for her to be all bubbly and shit.

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>>376322268
Map made me so mad I forgot to post it

>>376322074
it's bullshit artificial difficulty. Same-turn reinforcements are one of the dumbest ways to add difficulty to the game. My advice: use save states to play it. Restarting a mission because some flier spawned and 1-shot your healer is bullshit of the highest magnitude

Roy is also the worst lord in the series bar none. Imagine a screaming toddler you have to babysit, except the toddler also tries to run onto a busy highway at every opportunity. That's roy.

Overall FE6 is pretty awful, would not recommend

>>376320963
>I'm happy that we'll be together forever.
Stirring.
>I'm unhappy that we'll be together forever.
Heartbreaking.
>I don't care either way that we'll be together forever.
Profound.

>>376322481
>>376322074
oh, and RNG is fucked in FE6 also. Normally in FE games the RNG is skewed away from the median, but in FE6 it's not skewed at all. Be prepared for a lot of RNG bullshit

Are the Awakening's DCLs any good or should I just finish up the spotpass prologues and move on to Fates?

>tfw when Im slightly temped to replay it just to make overpowered children.

>>376322269
>>376322268
Well that sounds awful, I guess it wasn't ported for a reason. Maybe I'll just wait for Echoes in a couple weeks.

Are all the FE on higher difficulties 30% and 70% luck on rng or its a quirk from Fates.

>>376322620
Future Past and the Scrambles are alright but anything involving Einherjars is completely pointless.

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>>376321419
>exclusively marrying your friend's children

>>376322825
I just wish you got a guaranteed chance to hit/dodge once you get past a certain threshold (like 85/20 or something). I don't like restarting because of RNG bullshit.

Sword>Axe>Lance>Sword
Anima>Light>Dark>Anima
Bow is neutral.
That is the best weapon triangle.

>>376322089
Yes, but one is made by a nerd in some basement, the other had a staff of full time """professionals""" work on it.

>>376322616
>Normally in FE games the RNG is skewed away from the median, but in FE6 it's not skewed at all
False, FE6 is the game they started doing it in

>Soleil isn't the yuri option
>Have to settle for shitty Tharja clone
for what purpose

>>376322903
That's the only way to get all children without marrying some barren womb garbage (and to give everyone a wife/husband).

>>376323039
Thank Treehouse for completely missing the character's point.

>>376322825
Thanks.

>>376323004
>Note that in all games released outside Japan starting from Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade, the Random Number Generator generates two numbers instead of one for hit chance
>However, for Fire Emblem releases that are released before Fire Emblem: Binding Blade, like Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 and translated into English by fans of the series, the RNG has not been changed and as a result, enemy units may seem more likely to hit the player's units.

do the bare minimum of googling next time

>>376323042
>Anna
>Flora
>Reina
>Barren womb
Well they give birth to your children soooo

>>376323042
But girls are childless in Fates except for Azura.

>>376323146
https://serenesforest.net/general/true-hit/
>This is a phenomenon that occurs in FE6~12 (although it has not yet been directly confirmed in FE10).
What now?

>>376323179
>>376323212
I just don't want to bother using prepromotes trash which can't support with anybody ok.

>>376305075
One thing I'm kind of mixed about is dodging is completely not a factor now. In the GBA games, you could have a swordmaster or sage never get hit for the entire game, while in Fates you WILL get hit.

>>376323119
solel wasn't the yuri option in the jap version either retard

>>376323372
>prepromotes trash
You realize what game you're playing right?
>which can't support with anybody ok.
Hmmm.... there's a word I could use here... starts with a C...

>>376321556
>He won't prove Anna dosh is worthless with you around
>He won't put effort to make Char into a proper girl
L U L
>>376321657
By the time i get kanna my happy army is already full.

>>376323393
Yeah I know, and that's specifically because there wasn't an inch of lesbianism in the original version contrary to what Treehouse may have led you to believe.

>>376323042
Jacob's kid is complete trash so you dont really need to bother with him

>>376305075
It's not perfect, but its gameplay is pretty god damn fantastic and it's one of my favorites. I don't understand the complaints about the Magic/Bow/Knives triangle at all. I much preferred it to the Magic Triangle Tink Wars that everyone flipped their shit over losing. Archers being finally good again is a huge plus too.

I don't think there has been a "perfect" game yet. FE4/Thracia are very close but are still flawed.

I genuinely don't know how people can say it's a worse game than most of the series.

>>376323540
Benny's too.You cant even get him after a certain point.

>>376323346
serenes disagrees with wiki, who you should believe is obvious

>>376323039
Soliel was made more gay in the 'Murican version, she's straight.

>>376323372
But Reina is perfectly serviceable. In fact I believe she's considered extremely good in Revelation.

On a personal note, I quite like Reina's supports. Now if only she had more.

What's your strategy for chapter 24 hard
I don't have enough fliers/luck to ltc cheese it

>>376323832
I was using kinshi knight Mozu so I never really had any problems with that one

>>376323651
He is a pretty good antimage. Hi Res and Javelins

>>376323832
Bait one group at a time and once the area is clear move just barely outside Setsuna's range then rush in after activating the dragon vein. Having some flier who can reliably kill other fliers may help too.

>>376323651
I'm gonna get my Ch27 Ignatius and it's gonna be great. I managed to rescue a Ch27 Shiro after all, how bad could it possibly be?

holy shit these threads are so much better than fucking /feg/

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Why didn't they make another fitting sprite for Saizo? The blind-eye switch was so weird.

>>376323654
So Serenes then?
RNG manipulators probably know their shit
https://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?/topic/28299-how-to-manipulate-the-rng/

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I want to FUCK this awoo

>Hey I made you an apple pie
>Oh shit its delicious
>Glad you like it
>Will you marry me?

>>376324208
They really aren't, half of the FE threads on /v/ blindly flip their shit about Fates and parrot opinions about games. They don't really even discuss gameplay. /feg/ is dogshit but /v/ threads are never much better.

Heroes just ruined /feg/ past the point of no return.

>>376323832
Are you using the kitchen to it's fullest? If the fliers are your problem then you might want +2 DEF/+2 SPD.

Tonics are also a thing you can use. +5 HP and +2 to stats is no joke.

The number of fliers that spawn are limited. If you're able to weather the storm then you can proceed to the next bit. Remember that activating the Dragon Vein yourself will slow down fliers immensely, as well as prevent Hinoka from activating her vein for a few turns.

>>376324417
This isn't an Awakening thread tho??

What does the hot spring do anything?

>>376324382
>greatest design in all of Fates
>absolutely fuckabysmal personality
why did it have to be that way

>>376324624
Nothing at all. Except it recruits Izana/Fuuga at a certain point in the game if you have it at 3 Star.

>>376324624
Gives you a backup healer in Br/Cq and a gamebreaker egghead in Rev.

>>376324671
>Daughter of the retarded wolfman who collects garbage is a retarded wolfgirl who also collects garbage
Shocker.

>shit story
>forced children
>as a result, most supports suck
>infinite weapons to fix a non existent problem which created more problems
>DLC bloat
>shitty awakening models but at least they have feet
>terrible Voice Acting, no option for dual audio without Pirating

It's a step up from Awakening which was a huge step back

>>376324624
It was the only way to see characters donning the delicious swimsuits outside the fitting room but that got Treehous'd.

>>376314605
I dropped it because of the story. It is that bad.

>>376324835
Some children are the exact opposite of their fathers tho.

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Say hello to my waifu

>>376325081
Yeah just don't ever undress him in the accessory shop, alright?

>>376324887
Infinite weapons is good though
I would rather have repairable weapons but hey it's a step up from literally never using anything good for the fear of breaking it

>>376325213
>20 Durability Legendary Weapons
>Break any of them and you lose the true ending and the final 2 1/2 chapters.

>$95 for the complete game
>Excluding $20 of bonus maps/classes

It's perfect for my wastebasket.

>>376325213
>literally never using anything good for the fear of breaking it
That's all in your head

>>376325718
literally benching Myrrh as we speak

>>376305075
Yes, Ophelia is in it

>>376325815
>>376325718
>30 Use Divine Stone intensifies

>3rd attempt at beating Awakening
>finally figured out all the waifu pairings so I don't quit because of that dumb shit
>halfway through don't want to play anymore because the map design is so shit
Please tell me the maps get better towards the end because if I quit this time I'm not picking it up again.

>>376326272
Ha, no.

>>376326272
loooool

>>376313373
Why would you want daggers gone? They finally give the thief class more use in combat.

>>376305075
I found it boring and the graphics felt shitty as fuck
I didn't like the "8 bit" avatars, they just looked bad, I did like the ones in awakening though

>>376326272
They get worse

>>376326414
>>376326554
>>376327053
REEEEEEEE
Maybe I'll just bite the bullet for my waifu.

>>376327301
I'd bite an entire terrorist's storage for my wife.

>>376305075
I started the special edition. And literally stopped after the tutorial battle. Should I just stick with it? I am genuienly interested in Srpg´s and I like waifus. but the chibi models look kinda shit.

>>376327631
I think you picked the wrong series my man.

>>376327631
>chibi models
huh?

>>376328117
I think (and hope) he's talking about the map sprites.

>>376328310
Those map sprites are great though

>>376320137
>Marry Lissa in awakening
>Elise in conquest
>Felicia in birthright

>>376328807
>Elise in Conquest
>not Elise!Ophelia
duude

>>376325957
Myrrh is 50, and an infinite use dragonstone would make the easy game even easier.

Make the stones buy able and expensive.

>>376329030
How about not making the dragonstones fucking broken as shit?

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>oops, I did it again lmao

>>376320963
Is Niles the same between Japanese and English?

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>>376308263
>English Patch never

>>376329576
He was a tad gayer in Nippon.

>>376329030
I was referring to Fae's Dragon Stone actually. I was aware Myrrh's is 50. I do agree you should be able to make use of the GBA Manaketes somehow. It doesn't really sit well with me to make a character that is 30/50 uses and then they're gone. I kind of liked how Awakening handled it, since Nowi was mostly a normal unit.

>>376328117
>>376328310
no I mean these models https://youtu.be/3QXoGaTrxdM?t=12m45s

>>376329764
You clearly have no idea what chibi means.

>>376329889
alright how about "the ugly 3d models" ?

>>376329992
Press start.

>>376305075
No? Genealogy, Thracia, and Binding Blade are way better.

>>376330629
Binding Blade was considered retardedly broken in this very thread though.

>>376329254
You got your wish in Fates, it's shit.

>>376331579
>tfw end up using the Dragonstone far more than Yato since I'd rather have an extra tank than another half-assed damage dealer

Fucking nu-/v/ fucks Fates was the best FE released to date.

>best gameplay
>best girls
>actual rep in smash bros
>bfto weeb cucks
>sold the most
>most challenging while being fair

Fuck off with your casual snes games

>>376330629
>Genealogy
+Story -Gameplay
>Thracia
-Story +Gameplay
>Binding
lol

>>376332826
>-Story +Gameplay
>-Story
lmao

Did anyone else's avatar turn out awful?
I'm +spd and only have 27 speed at promoted Lv13
Got a shit ton of skill, 31 so I get like 50% crit chances with Killer

>>376320137
Cordelia, Nyx, Setsuna here

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>>376332826
>Thracia
>-Story

>>376332826
Thracia's story wasn't that bad, it's generally the inoffensive set up, with some nice depth on Julius, Sety, and a few other characters.

>>376321078
>He didn't bait the spy shuriken ninjas to attack unit to the south and then have a bow user attack both of them with Azura's singing
Step it up casual.

Conquest gives me hope. Had only Birthright existed, I would've considered Fire Emblem as dead as Star Fox and Metroid.

>>376333534
But that requires having the Spy Yumi, which isn't obtainable without using the Castle points thing. An absurd amount at that.

>Captcha just tried to have me draw around a street sign

Can it not?

>>376333789
No I mean baiting the ninjas to move to the south and attack units to the south and then attacking them with bow users

>Fire Emblem thread
>at least half the thread is inevitably people whining about waifu pandering
What went wrong?

>>376330629
>FE4
>No trading
>Huge ass maps that go on forever
>Mounted units are much better than infantry units to a point of absurdity

>>376334069
Waifu pandering

>>376334069
This, it's just optional shit.

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>>376334069
Insecure fans.

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>>376320554
>Having two seperate non-RNG based attack stance and guard stance is more casual than being RNG based and having both guard and attack stance in pair up

>>376323372
But Flora can support with her sister Ram- I mean Felicia. :^)

>>376320137
FE13: Sumia
Conquest: Flora
Birthright: Oboro
Revelations: Flora

>>376318441
I know I'm late to respond to this, but I take it you haven't seen a lot of Echoes gameplay? The changing camera angles are a common occurance now, especially for finishing blows. Alm's finishing blow against Doma still feels right at home in Echoes's gameplay, but is unique and cool enough to stand out.

>>376320137
>FE13 Anna
>Conquest Flora
>Reveletions Felicia
>Birthright Oboro

>>376334069
>Fatse allow A+ so you arent forced to marry people anymore
>/v/ still complains
hmmm....

>>376335642
You've never played Fates.

>>376335717
You don't even need those relationships at least on hard because pair up is shit compared to awakening.
I'm not sure if you can have male-female A+ tho

>>376335894
>I'm not sure if you can have male-female A+ tho
ok seriously play the game before you say anything
And Pair-up is still busted as fuck, in hard mode you're almost always in guard stance and everyone has a pair-up bot/buddy

>>376324887
The moment you were able to purchase weapons between chapters, weapon durability went from being a major consideration to a minor inconvenience

>>376336232
I was told pair up sucks so i just didn't and only got S on two characters which resulted in marriages.
I also played Normal Classic.

>>376336963
Also i played conquest and it was my first 3ds FE

>>376320137
Since Femui is best girl this is a husbando game.
>Lazlow Conq and Rev
>Takumi in Birth

>>376305075
>post the second or third most hated game in the franchise, which is only possibly behind the other two Fates games
>call it perfect
So this was a bait thread, right?

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>>376338334
>Saying that when Awakening, Birthright, Revelations and Gaiden exist

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>beat the 3 GBA games no problem
>pick up conquest
>game is ballbusting right off the bat
>stuck at chapter 10

It's been a few years since playing the GBA games but I definitely don't remember them being nearly as hard as this. Not even playing lunatic.

Do support points carry over? As in, if you hit enough points to reach level B midbattle, can you immediately start on level A in the same battle, or can you only do so after actually reading the B support?

>>376339010
Pair up ur units dude

>>376339010
You just need to pair up your units and usually get a got idea of what the map is like. Just finished Chapter 20 and it was piss easy. Chapter 10 must have been that one with Elise being sick or some shit. Just spread your units to the right and left, use dance in the beginning, let Effie kill the Ninjas with a Javelin and proceed with Corrin and Dragonstone. If you are good, you can also get the two chests with Niles and Azura.

>>376340037
>Chapter 20
>The wind map
>Easy
HOW
Also CH10 is the defend map

What does the "Echoes:" refer to?

>>376338334
>/v/ hates it so it must be bad
Is that how it works?

>>376340340
An ages old game echoing itself into the present.

>>376340337
If you position and pair your units correctly in Ch. 20 you should have no trouble winning it. Dragon Veins will move enemy units to you whereas turn ends will only move your units. With good planning you can lure the enemies one by one.

>Also CH10 is the defend map
Ok that one sucks, but it is not impossible. Get Niles and preferably two mages on the cannons, move Beruka to the top left to fend off them onis, keep Corrin and Effie at bottom middle and fend them off as long as you can. Using Elise's Freeze is a must, since they will bumrush you at the final turns. Make use of Camilla, she wrecks shit with no effort. Getting the chests is also made easy by using her and Corrin together.

The only thing Fates is lacking is more same gendered supports. Like, why can't I marry Leo?

>>376341058
Because Leo's not gay

>>376321713
>That feel when i always marry Silas to Rinkah in Birthright and Revelation for Sophie with Oni Savage skills
A hero running around with a great club having constant 90% + crit rate is a beauty.

I wish Revelations was good

>>376341157
>2017
>bi still isn't the default sexual orientation
I mean come on

>>376341058
>Camilla essentially wants to fuck Corrin regardless of gender
>Soleil blatantly prefers girls
>Scarlet's appearance screams dyke
>can only lesbian with Tharja 2.0
I can't be the only one annoyed by this.

>>376341272
You know skill buying means you don't fucking have to waste perfectly fine kids on the wrong mom just for a couple of skills, right?

>>376341545
But that's cheating

>>376341695
Great Club Death Blow is pretty much cheating to begin with.

>>376341462
>she has short hair so she definitely is a carpet muncher
durrrr

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I know it's almost out, but english echoes leak fucking when?

Why does everyone constantly praise Conquest as some amazing game while shitting on Awakening/Birthright/Revelation? There's only a few stages in Conquest that are remotely good and they are all in the beginning, the later stages are full of retarded event triggers and reinforcement spam that has absolutely no fucking strategy to them other than turtle it out (unless you bought DLC to grind units which you otherwise can't in Conquest).

If you play blind, it will constantly cheap shot you with bullshit that makes no sense but by ch20 you'll quickly learn there's only one thing to do; turtle til you win. Which apparently around here is deep and involving strategy compared to just pure offense = win (Birthright). It's the exact same except instead of being aggressive, you just sit there and wait turns out watching the AI be retarded.

Conquest is just as trash as the rest of the 3DS FE's.

>>376342487
Turtling has always been a viable strategy.

>>376342487
>Turtling in Conquest
Hmm I wonder why you hate lategame.

>>376342487
>bullshit that makes no sense
Reinforcements don't make sense?

>>376342487
>turtling to bait enemies into suiciding
Isn't this how most, if not all, FE games work?

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>>376341545
You do know that Rinkah as her mother give her no penalties in any of her skill caps. good SKL, SPD and average DEF growths.

The only draw back is the low HP growth and a bit below average STR growth (fixed if you go Great Knight or Hero) . She still hit harder than Rinkah and her high SKL growth + SKL cap let her use Sol often.

>>376339010
I'm disappointed nobody has made an edit yet giving her Heihachi style hair and changing the text to say Ninian Mishima is dead

Why does Rinkah suck so much and why is she the only natural Oni Savage?

>>376342918
Because you touch yourself at night thinking about your mother.

>>376343071
You know where we are, right?

>>376342578
>>376342620
>>376342794
So basically because the game forces you to turtle, it's good. While Awakening/Birthright/Revelation didn't force you to, they are bad? What kind of dumb logic is that, both are equally trash if it's just one or the other.

>>376342686
Some of the reinforcement triggers were retarded as they were just reliant on where you were on the map, not what you defeated and some of them came with weapon and/or skill combinations designed to fuck with you if you didn't know about them beforehand. Incredibly cheap and lame.