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Post game music with complex time signatures. Bonus points if it changes midway. Starting with a few.

5/4, 3/4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQnSXWJaI98

7/8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhAxg1oY0U8

5/4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVrblA7A1Ig
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classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgIRaLHLug0
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Calling 7/8 "complex"
Kys
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>>376278714
That's what it is by definition. Complex is a label with a musical definition, not just some flowery adjective.

Usually tracks with 7 beats to a bar are written as 7/4 not 7/8 though.
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bumping with everyone's 5/4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcITS930Mts
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>>376278150
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgIRaLHLug0
Came here for this. Thanks, I needed my fix, shit's too good.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBwch3vwuDQ
Mostly 7/8
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7/8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTsD2FjmLsw
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>it uses a complex time signature
>that makes it good
fuck off poseur
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>>376282160
Novelty is the spice of life, anon. Having a rare time signature makes something sound novel.
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11/4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckETJHE6RPA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3BTZDQEPn4
Some 5/4, 3/4, and other shit
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>>376277437
Phoenix wright justice for all
5/4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGSPYd5GcgU
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>>376284921
That's not 5/4.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o47N-aYd08
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>>376285280
that's 4/4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSzPbO9DFcg
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>>376277437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIerb7luQXw
Im not exactly sure what the time signature is
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>>376277437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVdxrERxQo8
11/4
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>>376278714
Hes right though
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSjzrhp-7js
A brief part in 5/8 at the middle
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ_PIam_Xvo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV7p48af-yw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGJbuHUbw8k

Music wizards, your opinions?
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oh boy, the weekly 'trigger /mu/' thread
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>God Tier Waltz Master Race Signatures
3/4

>Acceptable tier
4/4

>Hipster trash
Anything else
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I wish I knew enough about music to understand what any of this means
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https://youtu.be/xgDK1z95NtQ
29/16
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>>376286065
the top is the number of beats per measure
the bottom is the value of a beat e.g. 4 means a quarter note is 1 beat, 8 means an eight note is one beat
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>>376286065
do schools not teach basic music education anymore or something?
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>>376286019
>not 6/8

nothin personell kid

but you dont know shit
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>>376285538
its 4/4 ya dingus. Literally common time.
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>>376286147
>29/16
What the fuck
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>>376286019
>not alle breve
shit taste
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>>376286372
I grew up in the era before music programs were canned and we weren't even taught much. We basically got recorders and learned how to play mary had a little lamb and what the basic notes were. It's no wonder they don't teach that shit anymore, what a waste of tax payer dollars
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPuV7H0TnE0

is this not poly-rhythmic? It sounds all freaky
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>>376285436
>literally counts 1 2 3 4 HIT IT!
I'm not sure how this isn't 4/4.
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>>376286065
In music it's written in measures, time signature notes how the measure is written

In this shitty example each uses a quarter note as the beat measure, one with 4 beats (4/4) and one with 3 beats (3/4.) The significance of this is mostly on where you'd put emphasis within the melody. In a typical piece with a basic rhythm the start of each measure would have the accent, or main emphasized sound that carries the measure. For your average 4/4 think: ONE, two, three, four, ONE, two, three, four.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ODKKILZiYY

what the fuck is this song
>tfw 0:49 hits
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Isn't this some weird time signature?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xflkF-sqNaM

I have no clue how to tell the difference. I'm pretty sure I've heard that it's 3/4 though.

>>376286267
I understand and know that definition, but I have no idea how to piece it together in my head to really understand it. What IS a beat? What's the difference between 4/4 and 8/8? I don't get it.
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>>376286653
not elementary school shit, i'm talking about high school where you'd actually have a music theory class. unless they don't require credits in the arts anymore
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>>376285882
This is 4/4.
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>>376286894
Yeah but how do you guys just hear this? I can identify ONE, 2,3,4. Anything else is beyond me.
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I cant figure out the time signature

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tvCfyOoAII&index=23&list=PLBF2026BB0A977BA7
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>>376286894
Right, but assuming the time signature doesn't match the melody, how you can you tell the difference between, for example, 6 notes in each?

Can you really just hear it? Do you receive some kind of training to do this?
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>>376286372
Music's been getting the axe for years now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGJbuHUbw8k

Haha I'm not contributing to the thread.
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>>376287076
4/4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zMCvXZyt8Q
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QswAAfAhgwA
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>>376287226
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm17vgmh854
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8luy4mEZG5I
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>>376286936
time signatures and all these technical terms are just that: terminology we use to quantify something that we feel

There's a nuance to each of them that's not quite contained in simple numerical definition. You really have to feel the beat to be able to discern what is being talked about. It's something that you're going to have to study if you want to know, but it's certainly not an inherent talent or anything like that. Anyone can do it
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>>376287453
is this 8/8?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVfhRQf18MA

5/4
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>>376279037
>usually written as 7/4 not 7/8
Uh, no
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>>376287580
4/4 with clave rhythm in certain instruments
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBTe22Ph5Wk
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What the fuck is a time signature and how do I tell them apart?
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>>376286936
Definitely 3/4, you've got it.
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>>376287765
get studyin kid

http://www.musictheory.net/lessons
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>>376277437

>"complex" time signatures

t. 3 months old drummer
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>>376287885
refer to
>>376279037
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>>376287869
Can you just give me a quick rundown? It's late and I don't feel like reading all of that.
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>>376287765
The important part of the time signature is the top, which tells you how many beats there are to a measure, basically how many beats before the music repeats. Try counting along to music and reset your count when you feel the music reaches a point of repetition.

One thing to not be fooled by is that music in 4/4 is often split up into 1.5+1.5+1 instead of 2+2, leading people to believe it's in a weird time signature.
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>>376285280

That's 4/4, dumbass. Count the drum beat.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJE_VX7EA7g

5/4?
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>>376287116
There are stresses or emphasis that is placed on sets of notes to intuitively divide them into sections (ie: bars). Taking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xflkF-sqNaM as an example, as the song starts up you hear a run of 5 notes (with a lower note on played at the same time as the first note), a brief pause, and then another run of 5 notes (again with a lower note played in tandem with the first note of the 'run'). The 5 notes + 1 pause make for 6 notes to the 'beat' and the lower notes mark the beginning of each bar. Technically you could transcribe the music differently, but it would feel really awkward since the bars would lack any sort of pattern or cohesion. Musicians often put subtle emphasis on the first bit of a bar as well, usually subconsciously, so it would likely be performed weirdly as well.
>>376286936
It gets a little tricker when you're looking at 'equivalent' time signatures (3/4 to 6/8 or 4/4 to 8/8 for example). There's not a whole lot differentiating between 3/4 and 6/8 as written, but general convention is that 3/4 is a waltz with a stress on the first beat while 6/8 is two sets of triplets with the stress on the fourth beat. It's a lot harder to differentiate between these time signatures without familiarity of musical convention.
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>>376284921
>>376285121

7/4?

It feels like a 5/4 to me.
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>>376288020
yup, 5/4
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>>376280438
i wish people would do f5/4 more often. this shit gets you so hyped.
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this thread is so reddit lmao
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV7p48af-yw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuG4Mst-DS8

having trouble figuring the signature on this one.
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>>376288020
It starts as 5/4 but shifts into 4/4 at around 0:32 I think.
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>>376285883
>>376287226
>>376287405
>>376288158

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpXWF7Yr5uQ
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>>376288006
I don't understand this at all, am I retarded or something?
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>>376286896
It's a 3/4 that translates to 4/4 at the same bpm in 0:49, but it's written in a tricky way that throws you off heavily. Sick tune dude.
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>>376287378
is this 3/4?
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>>376287016

Start with easy pop songs. Notice where the music loops. That's the start of a measure. Now just 'feel the music' and clap along. That clap is the beat.
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>>376288263
FUCKING YES
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>>376288310
clap your hands to the beat of the song, if you feel a natural accentuated beat, that basically tells you the time signature of the song.
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>>376288020
Does that change between 5/4 and 4/4?
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>>376288310
probably, but you'll figure it out eventually

there are better places to learn music than /v/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dKpeTEBYIA

3/4 i think
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>>376288324

Yes.
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>>376288402
another 3/4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwVIKUQ__B0
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>>376284921
It sounds like it alternates between 14/8 and 13/8 with each bar, going by the piano.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_8EMpuCgwU

you know I'm starting to notice that golden age square has a lot of interesting time signatures in their games.
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>>376288080
It's something really stupid like 27/4 or some shit. It's divided into 3-3-8-3-3-7
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I'm having a pretty hard time counting this one out. Almost want to say 8/4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kcF7E69C6Q
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>>376287985
>>376287765
Ignore the fedora symbols. Take any fraction thingy, 4/8 for instance.
The top of the faction, 4, means you count in groups of 4's (one, two, three, four) and then
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eevogDcm854
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>>376288585

Feels like 8/4 to me.
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>>376288356
I can't feel a "naturally accented beat" in anything.
I'm genuinely starting to think I'm autistic or something.
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>>376288485
Oop. There's also 12-beat bars in every other set of four, too. The progression overall seems to be:

14/16
13/16
14/16
13/16
-
13/16
12/16
13/16
12/16

And repeat. What a weird signature.
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>>376288708
literally 4/4
Try one of the other Evergrace songs already in the thread.
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Why is 4/4 so common? And, more importantly, why does it sound so good?

Is it really just convention, or is there something innate about it that just makes it sound good to a human?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz82xbLvK_k

Is it really just feeding off our cultural expectations from all the other music we've heard before?

Also here's what I think I remember being some weird time signature:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzHRBDQDcWc
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>>376288742

Listen to a song like Billie Jean from Michael Jackson and clap along naturally. Now every time you clap start counting, but reset once you reach four, so you go like one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four etc.

Don't you feel like the one is accentuated?
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>>376288193
sounds like 5/4 to me
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>>376287809
>>376288034

I'd call this 6/8, actually. The main rhythm feels like a 2-pulse and it makes more sense to put it as one bar than stretch it over two.

Also nitpicking, but they're groupings of three quavers rather than triplets. Two sets of triplets would be either 2/4 or 4/4.
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>>376288896

It's comfortable on your brain. 3/4, 5/4 and other time signatures usually 'weird' your brain a bit.
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>>376288742
Everyone should be able to feel 4/4 or 3/4.

4/4 is nearly all pop music and 3/4 is the waltz.
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>>376288547
This, and the next part is 3-3-6
(or well, 3-3-3-3 if you prefer)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw8WB6bGLpE
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>>376288915
I guess so, but what actual effects do time signatures have on the music? Like does it make it faster or what?
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Can anyone figure this one out for me? Especially both halves of the ending section. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wJMeUWT2nI
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>>376289043
Right, triplets has a very specific meaning in music, I was speaking more colloquially.

And I'll bow to your superior knowledge on the 3/4 v 6/8 thing. I still have significant problems differentiating between equivalent time signatures.
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>>376288818
3/4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvN3Si2sRk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW3KNnZ2ZiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHXa2Vo1x2c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMpxY9089qw

i think this one varies from 3/4 to something else i think but maybe not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKrAKxzAXsk
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3/4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDsG4HRYiGM
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>>376289106
That's incredibly fucked up. So it's 27/4 that shifts into 25/4 every couple of bars.
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>>376289246
Time signature is purely a writing tool for showing how the melody rhythm should be emphasized when playing. You can have a ridiculously slow 11/4 or an extremely fast 3/4
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>>376289306
also didn't mean to quote that guy.
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>>376289246

It just fits well for certain types of song. For instance, people don't even notice 4/4 in a song, they just feel like dancing to it, it blends really well with all kinds of music (which is why it's so popular), while 5/4 makes you concentrate more on the beat.

Any time signature can be as fast or as slow as you want it to be, it all depends on the beats per minute (bpm).
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>>376288034
>Musicians often put subtle emphasis on the first bit of a bar as well, usually subconsciously

I was always taught to make the first note of a measure the strongest note, unless notated. In something like 4/4, 1st note is strong, 2nd is weaker, 3rd is in-between 1 and 2, and the 4th is the same as 2. It may be intuitive to me now, but I had to make a conscious effort to play that way when I first started. Doesn't invalidate your point, but I wouldn't say it's subconscious.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bziJONWj8XM
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REEEEEEEE, fucking 4chan cut off my post for some reason,
>>cont
The bottom number you can just ignore for starters, it just tells you how fast it goes mostly.

When you get weird shit like >>376286147
And someone says it's 29/16, you have to break it down to make it easier for yourself.
So 29 beats
That's a 14 and a 14 and a 1
So that's 7, 7, 7, 7, 1
Easiest way would be to count up to 7 four times, and on the last repetition throw that wonky last beat in, so count up to 8.
>one, two, three, four, five, six, seven
>one, two, three, four, five, six, seven
>one, two, three, four, five, six, seven
>one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, EIGHT
then repeat.
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>>376289532
It's sometimes something that you're taught when you're just starting out, but it becomes second nature to the point where now it's probably more or less automatic/subconscious. You'd have to consciously focus NOT to accentuate the first beat.
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>>376289306

Are you sure the first song is 3/4? It seems like one at first, but I'm starting to think it's more than that. I may be getting crazy due to lack of sleep, though.
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>>376289643
>>376288668
>>376288310
>>376287985
>>376287765

Shit dude, I don't even know what's going on anymore, I forgot to link stuff lol.
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>>376286147

As a beginner drummer, my brain is hurting. This is cruel, why would they do a song like this?
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>>376289246
>>376288742

Here's a really easy vidya example of a 3/4 time signature:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXfFt4W6nOY
Just count one, two, three, one two three,... with the beat, and you'll quickly notice that the one is accentuated each time. The time signature mainly just adds a rhythm to the music. You could write all of the same notes down on a piece of sheet music, but whether you play the notes in 4/4 or 3/4 time is going to have a big difference on what the song sounds like.
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>>376289735
just crap your hands friend. easiest way to figure it out. i didn't listen to deeply but some of them may vary. they all start 3/4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsetlRd-nvs&list=PL158756C142611D08
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>>376289457
>>376289476
I don't really understand either of you, but I kind of get what you're saying.
Thanks.
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>>376289818
>just crap your hands
moshi moshi kuso niito desu
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>>376289801
Because once you get past being a beginner you want more stuff to learn/harder things to do, and that tune ends up being an absolutely beautiful piece and you learn to enjoy the brain hurt.
Just wait until you learn polyrhythms.
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what's the reading on this one?
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>>376289260
Is it 6/8?
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>>376290012
hurrrr forgot link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZwmwC9KkEQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrF-X67BZo

here's a 5/4
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>>376289837

Pick any of the 3/4, 5/4, 7/4 songs in this thread. Do you feel as if some notes were "missing" in those songs? This feeling doesn't happen when you hear 4/4 songs. It's a cool thing.
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>>376290078
this one starts in 5/4 then goes to 4/4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK6eIElyHPU
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>>376290079
I can clap to them just as easily as all the 4/4 songs, so I don't see what the big deal is.
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>>376290209
well yes, but the point is to try to divide them into 4 claps. songs like >>376288193
don't divide into 4 claps per bar, so you have to figure out how many under or over 4 there are. sometimes you have to go into an even higher dividing number.
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>>376290209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXfFt4W6nOY
Try clapping at a constant rate, while saying "one, two, three, four" to the beat of this song, and you will almost immediately find that something goes wrong.
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>>376290038
There's a bunch of time signatures, especially the ending where the first part goes
>5 5 5 6
>5 5 5 6
but then the second part goes
>5 6 7 6
>5 6 7 6
>5 6 7 6
>5 6 7 6
and that just hurts my brain trying to figure out what the time signature should be.
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>>376290051
3/4
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here's some normie 3/4 for ya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3kV1QqQIDM
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>>376290305
>>376290367
I kind of get it, I guess.
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>>376290526
if you have any ear for music you'll start to notice it so much more in everything.
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7/8?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHFOLqWgpEY
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KYBfE8yzYc
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>>376290569
I guess I just don't have an ear for music then.
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>>376290612
that's 3/4
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so this one's from my childhood, starts 4/4, but it changes but dunno to what.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtr6BjCjtUk
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How do you differentiate similar shit like 3/4 6/8
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How about some waltzes to exemplify the 3/4?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFXZ618pU_0
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what the fuck is this trying to be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNyLKw6jo1E
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>>376277437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmQ8Ti_dPEg
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>>376277437
https://youtu.be/86IxmklUgEM
Starts with 7/4, changes to 5/4 halfway then goes back to 7/4
https://youtu.be/-8Kf3d9ly9s
5/8 mainly I think
https://youtu.be/7Dj1QYHir4A
I know this one is not vidya but I wanna know if anyone knows what the time signature for this one is, because I sure don't.
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>>376290797
How fast is it going?
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The early yu-gi-oh games have some of the most underrated soundtracks ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgO5R9OtYtc
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>>376290976
I thought that the bottom number denoted the duration of the notes?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmjonBvoRJA
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>>376290956
Those first two are really cool!

Third one not available in my country but if I've found the right one myself it's 4/4 switching to 7/4 briefly then back to 4/4.
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>>376289260
>>376290404
...Anyone?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQP31Fk30hM
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>>376290797

Something about note emphasis. The tempo is the same, the bars fit equally much. In more complex pieces it's sometimes impossible to tell them apart.
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>>376277437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpYo0lAwQ2g

changes between 6/8 and 5/8.
Golden Sun has a fantastic OST, shame the series died.
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>>376291112
I think it has to do with the organization of the sheet music.

Jesus fuck, I was in a concert band for eight years and I can't remember any of this shit.
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My Name is Songi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-IfeIExfkQ
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>>376290956
>that second half of the third one
What the fuck
I liked it but what the fuck
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The macedonian civ themes in civ6 are all 7/8 and apparently are traditional folk songs
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>>376289260
i hear 3/4 in the beginning, followed by 5/4, 3/4 again... yeah seems to just alternate between the two

ban-ban-ban/ban-ban-ban

then ban-ban-ban-ban-ban/ban-ban-ban-ban-ban
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>>376291196
https://youtu.be/O--XOQyOUmk
Does this one work?
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>/a/(had), /int/, /jp/ has DJT
>/v/, /vg/ has AGDV
>/ic/ has LOOMIS and learning threads
>/g/ has WDG

Yet /mu/ doesn't any threads geared towards learning music. What happened?
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>>376278714
complex is literally the musical term for the category of meter it falls into you baboon.
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>>376288324
Yeah. I feel like it was probably conducted in 1 tho
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>>376291740
This one worked for me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiVBykmoDxI

Same song? Ignore the intro that faggot tacked on to the start.
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>>376291749
I'm pretty sure there's some learning pastebins on /guitarandbass/ and /classical/
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>>376291649
So then the ending just has a measure of 7/4 every once in a while then?
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>>376291968
probably. the majority of the song is simple enough to follow.
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>>376291884
Yeah, it is
Well, I'm pretty much positive that it isn't just 7/4, I think it's faster than that and part of it doesn't fall onto either 4 or 7
I think it's 8/8, then alternates between 28/16 and 18/16, then goes back to 8/8 at the end
I might be completely wrong since I'm a total beginner, but I'm pretty much positive that the complex section isn't just 7/4
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>>376286019
Spotted the brainlet. Some of the best music ever composed changes time signatures like every measure.
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>>376291649

It follows a fairly short pattern that evens out to 4/4. The guitar is playing some odd stuff but the drums are fairly even throughout the section. I guess technically it alters between 5/4. 3/4 etc but the sum of the sequence still matches 4/4. It's sort of similar to what Tool and Porcupine Tree do in terms of sounding very complex but can you can "cheat" and count the beat in a relatively easy signature.
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>>376292012
Seems simple enough. I figured the ending was something like 24/16 instead of 5/4, 3/4, 3/4, 7/4, 3/4, 3/4.
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>>376292278
i mean if you alternate between 3/4 and 5/4 enough times it will eventually equal out to be 4/4 over all, but that's not what that means. those signatures are still unique to those bars, regardless of the whole songs outcome.
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>>376285436
Definitely 4/4
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>>376292156
It's easy to parse 7/4 as something like 4/4 4/4 2/4 4/4, 4/4 4/4 2/4 4/4 or something along those lines, but the complex section in that song can be divided neatly into 4 bars of 7/4. There's no need to over complicate it.
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>>376292383

Yeah, I know. That's why I labeled it "cheating". It's not the proper way to count the song's beats but it works.
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>>376290863
12/8 -> 14/8 -> 12/8 (repeat) is my best guess but there's probably a better way to represent that
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Pretty sure this alternates between 5/4 and cut time. I was never that good at theory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OArExUlvwk
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>>376292682
5/4 then 3/4 I think
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>>376292682
One section is 5/4 but the other is either 3/4 or 6/8.
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>>376288795
woah
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>these times
Music is a weird but fascinating world
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>>376286147
My brain just can't process this one.
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>>376292826
>>376292915
Sounds like 6/8 over 3/4 to me, comes in on the 4th note counting 6, but is syncopated on 3/4
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>>376278150
>71907/40120
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>>376289801
Mother 3 has a battle system where keeping time with the musical beat gives extra hits. I assume it's to fuck with the player.
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>>376293726
That's pretty cool. Nice to know that they weren't just being pretentious or anything.
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On a non-vidya note, what are some good 5/4 rap songs? I don't listen to that stuff but the flow in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo3Z7skEOtw&t=0s is so nice. (some of it isn't 5/4)
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i'm gonna be a faggot for a second.

https://youtu.be/B69GfSqEZEs
https://youtu.be/QyPR77rg1to
https://youtu.be/xflkF-sqNaM
https://youtu.be/VH6HIHmhvQU
https://youtu.be/PLDyWLbuptQ (unsure of this)
https://youtu.be/qrBB3_rFPjg
https://youtu.be/4oi_XcH2sAw
https://youtu.be/zEAN2dna9To
https://youtu.be/y49b8aiQVBg
https://youtu.be/E-fyLcHg4iM


alright i'm done
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>>376293973
3/4 is common and 6/8 is compound

Neither of those are complex.
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>>376294067
i don't see you complaining about any of the other 3/4 in the thread, which most of it is made up of.
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>>376277437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLhDBm2YtsU
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>>376277437
??/??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC0cvwnG0Ik
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>>376294385
10/10
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>>376289260
Same game. Try figuring this one out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsiH7OF8ltI
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Time for vidya to get on Nancarrow's level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3qO6-Cqzhg
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>>376293973
4/4
4/4
6/4
6/4
2/2
2/2
6/4
5/4
5/4
3/4


4/4 | 6/4 | 3/4 and 2/2 are common as fuck
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polyrythms are where it's at

nobody cares how complex your time signature is, unless you're king gizzard
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>>376294472
I listen to Nancarrow and Merzbow. Truly, I am cultured.
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Alphys Theme from Undertale is 3/4 for the first minute, then 5/4 for the last 30 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG2AtyD3elY
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>>376290775
Switches to 12/8, or something like that.

>>376290863
19 beats, sounds like 8+5+6 to me.
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>>376294696
>Not 4'33" by Cage

Pleb
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>>376294448

0:38 4/4
before that it would which from around around 0:14 2/2 to 3/4 repeatedly
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>Ctrl+F
>Secret of Mana
>0 results

Time to fix that.
16/16 + 20/16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE9epfIp-KI
6/4 + ? + 4/4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaWz3AL8mWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdIyxSVtPek

Pokemon X/Y has some gems.
7/4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpeKRH2fShw
5/4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Out1Sg86eAo

The Dance of Eternity of vidyas
3/4 + 5/4 + 7/4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NmGBbzHDjc


>>376293973
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>>376278150
its just sounds complicated because it uses the down beat to push a triplet

3/4 into a 2/2 into a 1/1 and it repeats for the entire song
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>>376294483
you are fucking deaf as fuck if you think the first song on that list is 4/4

lmao
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>>376294942
yeah its 3/4 my mistake
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thomsF5OY_g
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjzDgjosRzk

Spelunky had some really good music.


Also the entire of Risk of Rain's soundtrack is mostly in odd/complex meter.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CHYQm1-kJA

Mostly 6/8, with a middle part of 5/8 alternating with 6/8.
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>>376286896
>>376288318
I hear a measure of 2/4 and then a measure of 6/8 until 0:49, then it's just 4/4.
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>>376287378
1 2 3, 1 2 3, 1 2 3
That is Waltz Time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6fRmI-XEVY

7/8 IIRC

fuck why is this so hard to find in high quality he has the damn song for download ON HIS WEBSITE
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Here's a true classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_h35rPhRpc

On a more serious note, surprised this hasn't been posted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXLvJNLMKdo
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>>376294472
what in the fuck, this is played by humans?
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>>376296350
No way in hell, all his stuff is for player piano
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>enter distorted space-time hallway
>time travelling music starts playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1nRuWqW09Q
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>>376294385
>>376294409
Under related videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b19MjOmYx0Y
Rather interesting.
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>he doesn't exclusively listen to Derek Bailey

lmao'ing at your life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow-YPRq-t8A
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What would this be?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLgtSRL3N_c
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>>376288982
it's actually 9/4
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>>376288324
I think it's more like 6/4, the 4th beat doesn't feel like 1
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>>376296724
sounds like 4/4 to me
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>>376282160
literally nobody said that
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>>376296532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KzgwA7HJko

best 2hu title them. 7/8
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C74Lul1wLWk

One of the most patrician tracks in gaming history. You can tell it's good because swathes of retards find it unbearable.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W04PIzAzfPc
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>>376297584
how do zuntata do it?
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>>376297120
Here's the original song that forms the basis of practically every mainline Touhou title theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgd8K3_OVnU

>>376297584
Nice. I'm trying to remember if anything from G-Darius had a weird time signature.
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>>376291749
>what are /prod/ threads
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>>376277437
This brings a tear to my eye.
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>>376297907
BT dutch is 4/4 even though its one of the most disorienting songs on G's already weird soundtrack
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>>376297120
>>376297907
more strange time-signature touhou

hartmann's youkai girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4syvy2vjvQY (as a bonus, plays the same melody when backmasked)
hellfire mantle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yILFWxwKD0I
welcome to the youkai temple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bddifh-d9LU (only the beginning, but it's the best part)
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>>376298224
Of all the weirdness of G-Darius's soundtrack, uncommon time signatures didn't seem to be a part of it. I'm going through the Darius series to see if anything else has an odd time signature, but this is the only one I've found so far. (5/4 time)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpmKYfIjsyQ
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>>376298843
Well, this was all I found. (5/4). Surprised that only three Darius songs in history have uncommon time signatures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjWGyeujPk4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEg0PCbSoYQ

7/8, 9/8, 7/8, 11/8, repeat, with 4/8, 4/8, 4/8, 6/8, 7/8, 7/8 at 1:41 before going back to the 7-9-7-11 pattern.

Though, if you wanna be boring and just pull another 7/8 then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCgfTXi4dEs&list=PL8DAB824923CD0733&index=21 is for you.
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>>376277437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKjEwQeGAEU - 23/16 with an occasional 17/16 polymeter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIh4Bd-3ezc - 11/8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbLsiXE437A - alternating 5/4 and 6/4 the whole song
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>>376296756
It's actually 9/8.
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>>376286019
But 6/8, 7/8 and 9/8 are perfectly accetable.
>>
Metroid Prime 2 Emperor Ing A, I really don't what's this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fa0tFkEREE&t=27s
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>>376277437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq50NrujfC8
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>>376302197
It's triple meter, I'd probably call it 6/8.
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>>376301248
it isn't, because it's an addition of two rhythms patterns, the first is 4/4 then 5/4. 9/8 is a pure 3/4 with a triplet feel to it as basic note
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>>376302197
Is that 5/4?
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>>376302481
Objectively wrong.
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>>376302457
>>376302593
>>376302197
it's 6/4
>>376302868
kek, this is a 9/8 beat my friend,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXrXcdTjhlA
you can clearly hear 3 beats separated by triplets, meanwhile on that song you first hear 4/4 then 5/4.
t. studied in berklee for some time
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>>376286147
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDBQbWTESMM

11/8 with a few bars of 6/8?
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>>376288896
Is Mad Space 6/8?

I know nothing about time signatures
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>>376277437

I love music and rhythm as a drummer, but somehow I've never been able to get into complex time signatures.

Spoonfeed me some of the entry level stuff, if anyone cares.
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>>376303087
>you can clearly hear 3 beats separated by triplets
The same is true of Gale.
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>>376303329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqIZdbd6ULo
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>>376303329
most complex time signatures are an addition of two common time signatures. If you get that things become 1902390123890 times easier. There are some pure time signatures, but usually it's just 5/4, it's really rare to see like 7/4, 9/4, 13/4 pure
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN2XtskNiuA
wtf is this?
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>>376303329
>>376303413

Thanks for the input. Usually not the music I play though, but I can appreciate it.

I was more thinking of this kind of stuff;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woAcXSMyCEw
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>>376303518

I'm just so fucking trained on thinking 4/4 or 3/4 or 6/8. I really missed some basic shit by being mostly self taught.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQOVuZ-CCKg

I recall someone mentioning this song shifts through 3 or so odd time signatures over its entirety but I'm not sure what they are. Any anons willing to help me identify them?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frdye0appoM
This one is funky.
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>>376303737
7/8, 6/8 and 5/8
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>>376303826
Thanks anon!
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>>376303898
I just Googled a MIDI and opened it in MuseScore to look at the time signatures.
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>>376304043
That still answered my question so it's all good. Have some more Castlevania music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibw49hEkJps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTIww2a6p_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP-PldJ6UB0
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>>376304386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8JGNPE4ayw
Always been my favorite Castlevania song.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1pMh7354co

Bar of 7/8 followed by a bar of 4/4, repeat.

Or 15/8 but it feels more like two distinct bars
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Since i'm not a /mu/tant i'll just post some good tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fakKuXyp470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1SY7jYhb4Y
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not even sure on this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNDMGSWfVq0
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>>376285595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqiC5_88cVQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFnr0EjtPP4
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>>376296267
Forgot about this gem. No idea on the time signature though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3ZsfpMBRmE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2MFv2xe8yQ
4/4, 5/4, 6/4 and 3/4, plus a bunch of tuplets and overall weird rhythm.
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Not vidya, but If we're talking weird time signatures try this out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QracpYC4xbY
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What time signature would this be?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r-ndNVLmDU
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>>376303329
Most music with complex time signatures is really pretentious prog noodling or really self-indulgent metal wankery.

It leads to literal garbage/messes like this band that's only acclaimed because "lul look how complex and strange we are".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Cro2yxRjw
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>>376307119
fits a 4/4. or maybe an 8/4.
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>>376307707
>1:25
>>
3/4 is literally 6/8
prove me wrong
>pro tip: you cant
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