IGN's Top 100 RPG of all time

(2/2)

50 - Persona 5
49 - Xenoblade Chronicles
48 - Dragon Age: Origins
47 - Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3
46 - Grandia II
45 - Demon's Souls
44 - Xenogears
43 - Tales of Symphonia
42 - Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines
41 - Skies of Arcadia
40 - Final Fantasy IX
39 - Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen
38 - Fallout
37 - Fire Emblem
36 - Neverwinter Nights
35 - Baldur's Gate
34 - Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
33 - Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride
32 - Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
31 - Final Fantasy XII
30 - Pokémon Sun and Moon
29 - Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate
28 - Fallout: New Vegas
27 - Bloodborne
26 - Mass Effect
25 - The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
24 - Ultima VII: The Black Gate
23 - System Shock 2
22 - Final Fantasy IV
21 - The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
20 - Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together
19 - EarthBound
18 - Final Fantasy Tactics
17 - Suikoden II
16 - Deus Ex
15 - Fallout 2
14 - Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
13 - Persona 4: Golden
12 - Dark Souls
11 - Mass Effect 2
10 - The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
9 - Vagrant Story
8 - Diablo II
7 - Secret of Mana
6 - Planescape: Torment
5 - World of Warcraft
4 - Pokémon Yellow
3 - Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
2 - Final Fantasy VI
1 - Chrono Trigger

>>376265309
why Pokémon yellow is thia high if every game is the same buy with new shit? Also switch the witcher 3 with FF VII and it's all good

Notice how IGN didn't turn on the comments on that page? Think even they knew it was going to be a bloodbath of fanboys claiming "IGN has no idea what they're talking about" for not having 'Generic JRPG' in the Top 5

Well, it's not as bad as the Game Informer list.

I'm still gonna bitch about ME2 being there, though.

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>50 - Persona 5
>13 - Persona 4: Golden
What pussies, they just don't want to be called out for ranking a new game so high.

>>376266036
>>50 - Persona 5
>>13 - Persona 4: Golden

>any persona game in top 50

crap list, they shouldnt even be here

Lists are boring and I guarantee you 90% of posts here will just be

>[game] at #[position]
>shiggy diggy

I also guarantee that there's not a single person on /v/ that's played all 100 of these to completion, when it's not a 3x3 thread people here get really scared when two wildly different games are mentioned together

>Games that are too High

Pokémon Yellow
Vagrant Story
Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together
Mass Effect
Pokémon Sun and Moon
Final Fantasy XII
Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen
Kingdom Hearts 2

>Games that were too low

Deus Ex (That's a top 5)
Persona 5
Xenoblade Chronicles
Undertale
Super Mario RPG
Pokemon Gold/Silver (Wasn't on the list at all)
Nier Automata (Wasn't on the list either)

>>376265309
>Undertale not in top 10
???

>>376266243
>Pokemon Gold/Silver (Wasn't on the list at all)
Because HGSS are better in every way

>>376266334
HG/SS wasn't on the list either.

Better than that GameSpot list

>>376266243
>Vagrant Story
>Let Us Cling Together
>Too high
Fuck off, Redditor.

>>376266398
Yeah and it shows the fucking retard who unironically picked Yellow as the best Pokemon game and Sun/Moon is just a Genwun nostalgiashitter

>>376265309
>34 - Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Didn't they give this game a 4/10?

WTF
How is Halo and Call of Duty on here?

>>376265309
>11 - Mass Effect 2


lmao it's not even really an RPG

>FF6 above 7, 8,9, 5 and 4
>Trigger at number one and no sign of the better Cross

Fucking nintendo nostagia cucks

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>86 - Kingdom Hearts II

>P4G above P5 (they put it at 50 as a placeholder)
>FF4 cancer that high
>Eternal Sonata not on the list
Who decides this shit

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>>376266478
>Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

maybe the changed it?

This is a great list, fuck you teenagers for complaining that your favrit gaem didn't get #1

>>376265309

>FFVI and Chrono Trigger in the top five of another shithead millennial's list

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>Both Tales of Vesperia and Tales of Symphonia made the list
>Symphonia beat Vesperia

I'm glad but come on dude Vesperia is literally DA BEST.

>>376266947
Nah, they gave TTYD that score back in the day.

>>376266478
>>376266947
Never mind, it wasn't IGN. It was Gameinformer and they gave it a 6/10.
Still a poor review of a great game.

>>376267352
It's not that good desu

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Chrono Trigger is, without hyperbole, the most overrated game of all time.

>>376265309
>Still no mainline SMT games on top 100 RPG lists

Why do they hate SMT?

You definitely have to congratulate them for the way they ranked the Fallouts.

>>376267459
Because the people who make these lists are bad at video games.

>P4G above 5 and 3

HAHAHAHA /v/ btfo

>>376267538
I mean SMT is great but Persona offers an immersion and story/world depth that SMT doesn't have.

I seriously cannot believe how badly IGN fucked up.
How on earth wasn't Quest 64 #1? let alone on the list?

>>376265080
>80 - M&L:SS
>68 - Undertale
>52 - FF7
>30 - Pkmn Sun/Moon
>19 - Earthbound
>15 - FO2

All disgustingly high or low. Earthbound is cool but way too flawed to crack top 20. FO2 is a meme game. Sun and Moon replace with Platinum or Emerald. FF7, for all its flaws, deserves top 15 at least. Undertale shouldn't even make the list. Superstar Saga is top 25 imo, its the best Mario RPG and an absolute joy to play from start to finish with fun and varied battle mechanics, great puzzle elements, and top notch art direction. Maybe a bit light on the RPG aspects compared to some, but they are still prominent.

>>376265080
At least Ultima, Divinity, and Ys got representation. That top 10 is fucking garbage, though.

>>376265080
>>376265309
Since when did IGN hire people who have at least the very slightest idea of what they're talking about?

Where the fuck is Breath of the Wild? Didn't they give that game a 10/10?

>>376267771

>my opinions are right and yours are wrong

Nigga nobody cares.

Also SMRPG on SNES is the best Mario RPG. Shut your stupid fucking hole.

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>>376267412
It's still a shit review. Their reasoning was "it's a kiddie game and appeals to children". Why shouldn't a Mario game appeal to children?

>>376267445
Agree. Its a solid 9/10, with few flaws, but it doesn't really blow you away at any point. I can't see how its #1 on so many lists.

>>376265309
>Yellow is the ONLY Nintendo game in the top ten.

Totally non biased list guys

>>376267884
It's not an RPG. There aren't any Zelda games on this list at all.

>>376267445
You aren't wrong. Pokemon Yellow shouldn't have been in the top 10 or the list at all.

>>376267445
I had a lot more fun with it than I ever did with Starcraft or vanilla Diablo 2, so no.

>>376267918
>nigga nobody cares

Same to you then faggot.

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>rating Chrono trigger

>>376265080
>persona 5 lower than 4
Nigga.

>>376267607
Even DDS is better than Persona in that regard.

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>>376268183
fuck off nigga literally the best rpg ever created.
S-class
>plot
> soundtrack
> gameplay
I bet your virgin ass hasnt even played it blud

>>376268009
In the course of my career as a vidcon specialist (my own coinage, spend it wisely), I have never seen such blatant and frankly sickening ignorance as that exhibited by the "people" (if, in fact, they are homo sapiens at all, as their intelligence implies elsewise) that claim that Zelda is not an RPG. There is nothing that Shigeru "Shiggy" Miyamoto could possibly do to make the vidcon any more of an RPG as it meets every single criterion for being one, particularly that it takes place in an imaginary realm with a fantastical beastiary, the damsel villain ratio is at or above standards, and that the core emphasis of the gameplay is on bedazzling all foes with impeccable swords and sorcery. Furthermore, this line of thought can be extended to all vidcons in which the player controls a character (hence, roleplaying), though I cringe slightly at the thought of such mundane vidcons as Madden being RPGs, as they do not even include exotic weaponry such as the tonfa.

Where is Meral Gear: Solid Snake, Resident Evil games, Civilization IV, Heroes of Might and Magic III, Rome: Total War, Shin Megami Tensei - Devil Survivor 1&2, 9 Hours 9 Persons 9 Doors.

>>376268680
I am Groot

>IGN

>EVE Online

>WoW in top 10

>>376265080
>skyrim 25
>oblivion not even on the list

>>376268680
Only DeSu are RPGs, and shit the list need DDS before DeSu

>>376267920
They're saying it lacks depth

>>376268669
Okay, let's settle things.

RPGs originated in stuff such as Dungeons and Dragons. A bunch of folks would sit down, create characters and roll the dice to create statistics, and certain actions could only occur if the statistic overwhelms future rolls of the die. These characters also had personalities and stuff.

Basically, MOST video games fall under the term "RPG" if they have a character who is blatantly not supposed to be like the player (I don't remember having blondish-brown hair and having any green tunics in my wardrobe), and you play the game as them.

Pac-Man, for example, falls under this blanket, as does Gears of War, and many games which we call RPGs. The only games that would not fall under this category is perhaps Tetris, where you don't play as an actual character. You, yourself, are the one playing the game. You are not playing some green dinosaur who has to save his friends by playing the game, you are playing the game directly.

So, in this case, Zelda IS an RPG.

HOWEVER.

RPGs have become a genre of their own in console video games. The Console RPG is more akin to Dungeons and Dragons. You play as characters with statistics, and how you overcome the game depends on these statistics. Those stats, which are viewable and changeable whether due to equipment or level up, are the essential thing which makes RPGs what they are.

So, Zelda is definitely an Action-Adventure game. There are enemies, and Link has techniques to defeat them. There is an emphasis on finding things and using those things to progress further. It has limited RPG elements, such as statistics, but those are limited because they change almost according to the storyline and nothing more.

Zelda is not an RPG in the modern sense. It is definitely an RPG in the old sense, but not nowadays.

>pokemon yellow that high
the list is retarded in general but what in the flying fuck, it's not even that high in it's own series

>>376267445

Maybe if you're too young to be on this filipino flipbook website.

>>376269087
*sigh* Why am I not surprised to see your blithering idiocy in this topic? You're the child that just doesn't understand that you're not supposed to touch a hot stove and does it over and over. It sickens me to see your unflinching, unapologetic ignorance in a topic that I have spent over a month crafting - a month that consisted of possibly the most intense research and mental preparation of my life. To say that I am disgusted by your infinitesimal comprehensional aptitude understates the irreparable damage you have done to my faith in the human intellect.

Zelda. Is. An. RPG.

Leave.

I'm p heated that they put Skyrim above New Vegas but they did a good job overall

Ah! I did not notice that the list is about RPG games :|

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>>376268167
Not him, but BTFO

>>376265080
>68 - Undertale
>After IGN gave it a 10/10 score
Really makes u think

>>376265309
>4 - Pokémon Yellow

Who the fuck did this? You could replace it with literally any Gen 3 or Gen 4 game and it would fit.

>>376265080
>>376265309

I think Monster Hunter is better than 95% of the games on there but if it counts as an RPG then the term is completely worthless

>>376269409
Madden is more of an RPG in every conceivable way except being Japan-made.

>both Lunar games
It's okay in my book

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>Secret of Mana #7
>Superior game Terranigma not even on the list

>>376269980


Why would being Japan-made matter? RPGs started in the west

>>376266243
Gold and Silver were shit. They relied too much on Kanto as a crutch. Same with HG/SS.

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>the only Ys title on the list is Bumper Car Simulator

>>376268680
>9 Hours 9 Persons 9 Doors.
>RPG
wat

I did not notice that the list is about RPG games :|

>>376266243
this, except for Pokemon G/S

>>376266316
It's unironically better than most of the games on that list.

>>376267771
Earthbound on these lists is often a proxy for Mother 3, since journos can't admit to pirating it and using the fan patch

>>376265309
>Mass effect 2 ranked higher then mass effect 1

Im not ok with this