1070 or 1080?

PS4

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>>376257371
depends on what screen u play.

If 1080p take 1070
If 1440p take 1080

1060 if you want value, 1080 if you want high end, 1070 if you want a meme card

>>376257371
if you have money why not go for the best? just buy things based on your budget

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>>376257371
I bought a 1050 (not Ti)
How muck did I fuck it?

>>376257371
For 1080p anything less than 1080 ti is a meme

>>376257826
not at all, as long as you stick to 1080p/60fps

>>376257928
Then I'll be fine

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>>376257928
>1050 (not Ti)
>1080p/60fps
that is 1070's job

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>>376257928
lol

>>376257786

Having the money isnt the same as willing to spend it.

>1080p 1070 or 1060
>1440p 1080

1080ti.

>>376257826
>>376257928
A 1050 isn't built for decent 1080p 60fps, not even close. Maybe on medium settings depending on the game. You'll need to lower a number of settings for newer games

6gb 1060

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>>376257826
massively

rx470s can be found around the same price with +30% performance

>>376257371
sweet spot meaning price to performance? neither.

get a 1060 or a rx 580.

if you're running i5 everything above 1060 will be severely bottlenecked.

>>376257371
1070

>People saying GTX 1070 for 1080p
That's a 1440p card, a 1060 or / RX 480 is enough for 1080p

>>376259056
Speaking of CPUs

Why are we still in the 3.4Ghz~4GHZ range? My four year old CPU is that

I mean I'm sure there are shit load of other details that make my CPU outdated and shitty but why isnt raw clock improving?

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>>376259056
Thank you

>i5 is good enough d00d
>drops to 40fps

>>376257371
Do you even know what you'd play on your 1070/80?

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>>376258872
>AMD

>>376259173

Yea but for how long?

Why not get a slightly better card so you can stay at 1080p longer.

>>376257826
never buy Nvidia below the **60 model
A 1060 6Gb is the minimum required to game decently
Fun fact, that's also the top level AMD garbage can actually reach at the moment

>>376258872
Not true at all, it's about the same price as lowest GTX 1060 3GB

Hey, I have a question about my GTX 1070 if any of you own one. Let me preface my question with this: I am a massive faggot and I know next to nothing about computers.

I bought a built computer and it came with the GTX 1070, and from what I've read it comse with a DVI port, an HDMI port, and 3 whatever elses. I look at the back of my case and where those should be beside the DVI port) are some rubber plugs that I guess are placeholders? Do I just take these out to use them? They seem pretty in there.

>>376257371
Ps4 pro

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Question

Do I really need to buy a manufacturer that has good cooling if I never play on OCing my graphic card anyway?

>>376259475
>Do I just take these out to use them?

Wtf, you havent used your graphics card yet because you didnt try pulling that out?

and yes you remove them to use the ports lmao

>>376259175
>Why are we still in the 3.4Ghz~4GHZ range? My four year old CPU is that
how retarded are you

>>376259475
which computer did you buy anon?

>>376259056
>Modern Core i5 bottlenecking a GTX 1080
A fucking Core i5 750 barely bottleneck a GTX 1080
https://youtu.be/TScpVAGNdcI?t=6m21s

>>376257717
>buying the definitive budget card
You're probably one of those people who believes only 30% and under of the budget for a computer should go to the graphics card.

Buying a new GPU if you have a R9/ GTX9XX right now is just plain and flat retarded, there isn't a single game that actually taxes the new cards that isn't an unoptimized piece of shit.
wait till 2018 or some shit, the current "upgrades" are a joke

>>376259610
The DVI isn't covered so I've been using it
>>376259638
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230083

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I'm getting old and I feel like this will be the last time I get to spend my own money my own way.

So part of me just wants to blow it on a 1080 and finally not be a Budgetfag for once.

Does it make sense /vee/?

>>376259778
I'm on a 7850

>>376257371
wait for vega

>>376259519
it's always better but buy what you need

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>tfw I fell for the GTX 970 meme and will have to buy a better card soon

>>376259869
>have a 7770
>still don't plan on upgrading
feels good

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I think it's time for an upgrade.

>>376260178
>tfw just exchanged my 8 years old card for a GTX 970 3 months ago
Cost less than 110 bux, 0 regrets.
I do regret buying a GPU replacement instead of a CPU replacement though, FUCK.

>>376257501
1070 is enough for 1440p tho

>>376260429
But for how long?

>>376257371
Just get the 1080 and you'll be good for a long time.

who still /760/ here

>>376260497
considering AAA gaming as we know is almost dead, I'd say quite a while, until the industry rises from ashes again

GTX 1060 6gb (AMD equivalent is RX 480 8gb) is good for 1080p 60fps at high settings.

GTX 1070 for VR and 1440p,

GTX 1080 for 4k or it's a waste of money.

>>376260670

or get a 1080 for 1440 and be set for at least 5 years

>>376260629
What are you talking about. AAA gaming are selling better than ever (with higher production cost too, granted) since the gaming demographics are bigger than ever.

>>376260629
actually is the opposite AAA gaming is aiming for a big marketshare so they will make the game to be able to run on most average PC-s.

You will not spend 100 million $ on a game just to sell it to guys who have a 1080 GTX

>>376259175
Moore's law.

>>376257371
RX 580 for 1080p up to 1440p 60hz

1080ti for 1440 144hz and 4k

>>376259869
Depends honestly what you want you cant future proof graphic cards.

If you want 4k gaming then go for a 1080.

But remember any high profile game will run on a 1060 or rx480.

>>376259869
Sure, go for it.

>>376259175
moar cores sell better

>diagnose game made in 2008
>gpu usage going where it should be going
>diagnose game made in 2016~2017
>20% of the GPU usage is going to the fucking UI
There's no futureproofing possible, this is just fucking utter and braindead carelessness of the Developers.

>>376259056

wrong

>>376261023
A 1080 has dips below 60fps at 4k you need the ti

>>376260593
Hell I just bought a gtx 680 for 35 dollars.

>i5-3570k @ 4 GHz
>hd 7970 @ stock clock
Still running Doom and Witcher 3 1920x1200 on medium settings at 60 fps

>>376261163
Same CPU as yours here and I'm really itching to upgrade my graphic card

I wonder what's the best it can support.

My GTX 670 still works a treat, don't feel the need to upgrade just yet. Maybe if Bannerlord requires it...

RX 480 was that sweet spot card, the 580's power draw issues kinda fucked AMD over though.

1070 isn't sweet spot at all, this generation's x70 cards are stupidly overpriced because nVidia knew that AMD would take a fucking year to come up with anything competitive

>>376261163
7970 is GOAT

>>376260178

gtx 970 is still a great card and absolutely smashes anything a console can do, all the anti-970 shit is more of a meme now than the 970 being a bad card

>>376261254
Any Intel i5 or i7 K since the 2xxx series will handle 60hz gaming

>>376260178
>>376261290
the 3.5 meme is still kind of disturbing and annoying, but yeah, still a decent card.

>>376260593
Hell yeah, never have any problems running games either.

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>>376261163
Doom runs amazingly well considering idtech's recent history.

>>376257826
As long as you don't touch msaa you're fine. Well speaking as a 1050ti because my 760 broked and I needed a replacement that day.

>>376261290
The 390 is now on the 980s level and gave you more VRAM, far better card to buy, nvidia's marketing was just too good

>>376261395

It is a bit, but I bought mine on Amazon and they refunded £50 because of that which was more than Nvidia jews were dishing out (which was also USA only). So I wasnt that bothered.

Anyway, I have a 1080 now cause I wanted to go 1440p

>>376260593
oh shit waddup

I still don't know what to upgrade to. I was thinking about getting either a XFX 480, Sapphire 580, or one of the 1060's but desu none of the 1060's really grab me. EVGA cards go up in flames, MSI has terrible customer support, and all the other manufacturers seem just eh.

I can still play everything I want at okayish frames so whatever.

R8
Msi gtx 1070 gaming z
i7700k (prev had an amd fx 6300 and will never go back to amd)
16gb ddr4 3200mHz

>>376261469
You really should have waited to pick up an RX 470

>>376261462
Vulkan is a godsend and I truly hope it fucking blows DirectX out of the fucking way.
>nu-doom actually takes advantage of ALL of my Xeon cores
yes pls

>>376257371
Sweet spot for what? You've literally given no information.

>>376261532
If you literally only do gaming the 7700K is faster, but you're an idiot if you don't think Ryzen is the overall better choice with twice the cores at the same price

>>376261532
Lel enjoy your stutter lake. Just do a bit of research before you drop hundreds of dollars on a pc. In 4 years you'll sat the same thing about intel.

>>376261469
1050ti is boss

Got one for 100 dollars to slap in my dads prebuilt

i have a 4690k with a 1070. should I upgrade to an i7 with an 1150 socket or get a new 1151 socket cpu, motherboard, and ram?

>>376261606
It's a shame about all the stuttering and massive input lag, though. Even more so than DX12.

>>376261273
AMD is super aggressive with their stock voltage, I undervolting AMD cards is highly recommended

amd rx 580

>>376261813
>AMPEE

no thanks pajeet

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i5 2500k 3.30ghz
8gbs of ram
750 ti


I'm going to upgrade to a 1050 ti and add 8 more gigs of ram.

Will the 1050 ti bottleneck the i5? My monitor is 1080p 60hz.

>>376261740
what cpu are you using ? do you have an nvidia card ?
because it's flawless with my fx6300 and rx480 as flawless as fx6300 can be though

>>376261728

4690k is fine for that GPU. I have the same for a 1080 and absolutely no bottleneck at 1440p.

Maybe it would bottleneck at 1080p, I'm not sure.

>>376261728
Your only real side grade is to Ryzen to double your cores, and please tell me you have something better than a 1080p 60hz display

>>376261740
Nvidia can't disable vsync
>>376261913
AMD can't enable vsync

It's a strange bug, but I hope it's a developer oversight instead of an actual engine issue.

>>376261934
yup, benq 144hz

>>376261861
nah the 2500K is a very solid cpu
but your ddr3 ram speed will cost you some fps though

>>376261861

I think it'll be fine at 1080p 60hz

>>376261861
Your CPU is what mostly matters for hitting 60Hz, unless you OC to 4ghz or better you're going to see some dips in some games


And the RX 470/580 is way faster than a 1050ti for not much more money, get that instead

>>376261861
you'll be fine dude, 1050ti is low end enough that your older CPU won't really matter
>>376261786
I did see those videos where people barely undervolted their 580's and actually get better performance because the card was running at a lower temps and wouldn't throttle.But you shouldn't have to fuck with Wattman to get a functioning card in the first place and I'm afraid that I'd lose the silicon lottery and get a card that won't handle the undervolt

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THANK YOU BASED NVIDIA

>>376262003
Then ya, Skylake is only going to be a bit faster because it hits 5ghz, going to potentially be pretty hot running at 5ghz

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>>376261683
>but you're an idiot if you don't think Ryzen is the overall better choice with twice the cores at the same price

hmm, that's odd. because the numbers indicate that your $500 8-core ryzen CPU loses to a $330 4-core kabylake CPU in 16+ thread benchmarks as well.

>>376262209

Does this mean I need to wait to buy a card again.

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>tfw two cards in a row had coil whine

>>376262262
At most they'll announce the 9 gigabyte/second GTX 1060 refresh and maybe some shit for Tegra and enterprise hardware, eh I wouldn't worry about it

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where were you when AMD's $500 flagship CPU lost to a $60 pentium?

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Depends on the game, as shitty of an answer as that might be.

Then again most modern AAA games suck absolute dick, there isn't a single game out there that could justify building a high-end PC right now.

>>376262112
And is overly aggressive with their stock voltage to get more chips out there, Trixx is the software I recommend, my 480 can drop 72mV without missing a beat at 1300mhz, and it easily OCs to 1450mhz, I got fairly lucky

>>376262261
>because the numbers indicate that your $500 8-core ryzen CPU loses to a $330 4-core kabylake CPU in 16+ thread benchmarks as well
Uhhh, pic unrelated?

>tfw buy rx480 for to hold me over until Vega
>upgrade to gtx 1070 for reasonable price
>it'll immediately go on the shelf as a decoration alongside the RX 480 after Vega is out

>being a graphicsfag

real gaemers

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ashes of the singularity, DX12 game designed in cooperation with AMD engineers to be optimized for 8 core CPUs. used as a benchmarking fluff tool for AMD

ryzen's $500 8-core flagship CPU loses to an underclocked (to 3.8ghz to match the ryzen chip, from 4.5ghz stock) $330 4-core intel CPU

>>376262217
would it make much sense to upgrade to a socket 1150 i7 chip at this point?

>>376262350
Is this a meme? Cause I was gonna put this together soon and don't wanna get fucked
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B2HJXH

Get a 1070 and a 144hz 1080p monitor.

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nooooo
please, intel! stop!

>>376262261
Can you even read? It looks to me like the $329 1700 outpaces the 7700K slightly

>>376262082
not this guy, but i've bought an i5-4690K (3.5 GHz) a while ago, and was wondering when to change it. I have a 1070 since about a year ago, and have noticed stuttering only in Dishonored 2 which isn't well optimized. You think I should try to get something along the lines of an i7 ~4GHz in a few months and i'll be safe ?
I also intend on upgrading my monitors, having my primary being a 1440p and 2 1080p

>>376262524
nah it's fine
don't listen to the intels shills

>>376262448
Do you hate your money or something? You could have just bought a 1080ti and be set for a couple of years

>>376257371
probably the 1080. Wait a few months since the release of Vega might drop nvidia prices.

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>>376262524
please come to your senses

NVIDIA/intel is the optimal choice right now. i was cheerleading for AMD when athlon x64 came out, because that was an actually good architecture. ryzen is not. did you know you have to buy grossly overclocked extremely expensive RAM for ryzen to work at its advertised IPC? and there is a RAM shortage right now

>>376259416
Might as well get an RX580 considering they beat the 1060 6GB

>>376262690
I could but I don't have any use for it. Owning a Freesync monitor and all.

I'm praying for Vega to be good so i can upgrade my 290X. If Vega is the new 290x i will be set for years. The 290x should go down as one of the best GPUs ever made.

>>376261991
i don't get any screen tearing nor lag input mate
i think it was probably fixed

>>376261584
Like it broke and I need a replacement the same day so I went to the hardware store. Its not bad but the store did not have amd cards.

>>376262519
No, hardly anything is faster than recent i7s at 4.5GHZ, Your only option is to side grade to Ryzen for more cores, but I would just wait to see Ryzen 2 unless you want to record gameplay with OBS or stream

What's a solid upgrade from a Radeon R9 390?

>>376262663
>>376262773
Who do I listen to?
I was originally looking at a kaby lake 7500 cause it was a little cheaper than the ryzen 1600 but was told the ryzen would last longer than the kaby lake because of the 6/12 unlocked out of the box

>>376263025
thanks anon

>>376263042
what do you need it to do?

the 390 is still a very powerful card unless you're going into 4K territory

>>376262604
Just over clock it to 4.5ghz, otherwise unless you're getting a used i7 on the cheap for that platform you probably don't really need to upgrade for 60HZ gaming

If you meant skylake ask yourself if its worth buying a new motherboard and RAM just for hyper treading, instead of buying an R7 1700 for more cores/threads at the same price

>>376263050
he's full of shit
you don't need more expensive ram ddr4 is expensive as shit that's all
and if you switch to an intel cpu at least get a 7600 or 7700 but a 7500 is just inferior to the 1600 in every way

>>376263107
>the 390 is still a very powerful card unless you're going into 4K territory
It is? Everyone tells me the 490 is leagues better, and that a 1070 is leagues better than that. I don't play many AAA games, but everything I play runs on High or better at 60FPS.

Am I getting memed on?

>>376263042
What resolution? If 1080p the card should still be fine

>>376263437
1920x1080

>>376263050
The Ryzen 5s blow i5s out of the water, just be sure to get some ryzen optimized RAM, 2400mhz or 2666mhz G.skill makes some that's relatively cheap.

>>376263331
Yeah, I guessed as much, but I wanted a second guess. I specifically bought an i5 Haswell because I didn't wanted to upgrade my mobo, so I guess I'll just overclock it until it dies, then buy a new mobo and a new CPU.
I hope AMD will make me buy their CPU, I want to help them, but everytime, they just don't let me

>>376263604
Really no reason to upgrade then, the 480 is as fast at about half the power draw or something.

Upgrade to a 1440p 144hz pixio or 4k 60hz IPS display before a new GPU, both run around $399

>>376257371
1070 for 1080 res
1080 for 1440 res

So what's a good 1440 monitor right now?

>>376263357
>>376263610
Alright. All the ram just looks expensive anyway. Everything is always around 100-120 but like once or twice I saw some drop to around 80 but wasn't sure if I should pick it up. I was just gonna get everything little by little so then maybe Vega gets announced/released and drops prices on the 400/500 series

>>376263756
I am running an i5 4460 though. Still solid or not?

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I've got the exact same components as >>376261861, but I'm eyeing the 1070 instead of the 1050ti.

Would the GTX 1070 bottleneck the i5?

>>376262209

Huang prepared something AGAIN?
wew

>>376261513
Don't buy anything from Nvidia below the 1070

>>376263943
Sandy bridge was the last good CPU intel ever made so you're good, anything after that generation is just extra 2% performance.

AMD is about to take over the CPU game by the way

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>>376263807
Can confirm 1440x900 is fine.

Why don't you get a PS4 instead?

>>376264434
I have a PS4

>>376263943
Depends on the game if then you'll have push for higher resolutions on games that are taxing the CPU it'll take off the load of those 4 cores. Hence why Ryzen 5 is way more attractive in that area having an extra 4-8 threads

>tfw stuck waiting on AMD new cards to see what kind of Gsync / Freesync monitor I need to get

I'm sure my ryzen 1600 will get me 120 FPS+ but stuck waiting on monitors and shit.

>>376264098
>AMD is about to take over the CPU game by the way

I'm planning on getting Ryzen and I don't believe that. I'll probably just get a 1600/1600x since I'd like a couple more cores for video processing. I'm also tired of the release strategy that intel has been using for the past 7 years. I'm hoping Vega turns out to be competitive too since I'd like to actually be able to get a 4k capable card around $500 or so.

>1070
>1080
>Being a sweet spot at their respective price range
no

>>376264628
don't be discouraged cause of the shills posting day 1 gayming benchmarks

>>376264628

You can get 1080 for $500 on Amazon right now.

>>376263654
Ryzen is super competitive in everything that isn't 144hz gaming, AMD is offering an 8 core part that competes well against Intel's $1000 8 cores at 1/3rd the cost, cheaper motherboards as well

>>376260429
Not at 144Hz. You shouldn't buy a monitor with less than 144Hz.

>>376261068
>More cores sell better
>Video games still not taking good advantage of more cores
I understand why on both fronts of course, but it's still disappointing.

>>376263910
Bad idea to buy things little by little

>>376264737
I know, but will tomorrow's games be optimized well for AMD or will they just stick to Intel ?
I've had countless examples of people with about the equivalent of my i-whatever I had at the time not being able to keep up because of that. Hopefully it will get better soon

>>376257438
fpbp

>>376263921
Should be fine for 60hz gaming

>>376263943
What is your display?

>>376264549
Why? At $200 there is 1080p 144HZ TN, at $399 1440p 144HZ IPS and 4k 60hz IPS

All those options have free sync

Anyone use a i5-7500 with a 1060? Thoughts?

>>376264717
True, but I wouldn't buy anything right now without at least waiting for AMD's releases to see if prices drop. I'd probably get the 1080ti before the 1080 anyway if I had to.

I'm just baffled Freesync and G-Sync haven't been invented earlier. They're so simple in concept and yet they make a phenomenal difference.
A perfectly consistent 45fps looks a lot smoother than a stuttery 60fps.

>>376264628
8 core or bust for video editing and gaming on a single machine, you can give the game 4c/8t and the video editor 4c/8t to game while rendering

>>376257371
1080p - RX580 aka rehashed RX480
1440p - GTX1070
4K - GTX1080Ti

>>376264891
It's clear that amd will push game dev to make their game with async in mind specially since dx12 is starting to take off

>>376265480
i want to believe, anon
i've been waiting for years until the time is right for me to have faith in AMD
they keep pushing me down but i keep believing

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tch you think you kids no a budget build? I'll show you a budget build

>>376265461
They give the 580 a bad name but it's better and at the same price

>>376257371
Are there games that even need these cards for 1080penis?

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>Thinking you need a CPU better than a 2600k

Ive had this thing for like 6 years. Go look up 2600k vs the latest shit. No need to upgrade. Feels good.

So how is the rx 580?

>>376265584
So do you want AMD to attend to your funeral when you die? So that they can let you down one last time?

>>376265703
an overclocked 480 refresh

I plan on upgrading my motherboard and cpu when i have the money, i think my mb is starting to die and the processer i have is a i5 3570k, any suggestions to what i should get?

g-sync is faggotry since you have to buy a overpriced SPESHUL monitor to use it. Fuck that, AMD's freesync is a better alternative since it doesn't require paying a premium price on a monitor while nvidia and samsung were too busy sucking each other's cocks to make g-sync not a ripoff.

>>376265584
Well now is the time
I always choose amd because of my budget but it's pleasing seing amd being competitive again
Vega looks pretty nice too

>>376264992
1080p, 60fps.

>>376265671
this
ive been using i7 and 980 since like 4+ years ago
still going strong

no need for 1080, when all your games are fucking ports of console games

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I have a 750.

Get on my level plebs.

>>376265757
Is that all?
Was going to get a 480 a while back but decided to ride with my gtx 770 a bit longer.

>>376265703
>>376265757
Don't upgrade from a 480 to 580 it's useless
But if you upgrade get the 580

remember in the old days when your turned down settings you would get more FPS?

why is that not a thing anymore

>>376265912
Wait for Vega™

>>376265942
It still is. What do you mean?

>>376265738
Hahahah
>>376265480
I think I'll wait a little bit more, I really hope this time will be the time
Just like I always do, please AMD, be gud

>>376265784
Not sure what's so special with Gsync monitor but I'm sure as hell not paying extra for this extra feature.

I just turn on fastsync in Nvidia CP call it a day. No frame tearing and good frame rate over 60+fps ever since

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>>376262261
Dude, your pic....

Nevertheless, Ryzen has gotten like 8 updates on diferent stuff that makes it considerabely faster than what it was on release (like intel did on Sandy Bridge). Just yesterday they anounced this:

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-memory-support-to-be-expanded-with-upcoming-microcode-update/

By the way, pic related is an old example, it's a little bit better now

>>376265671
I moved up to a 6700k from an i7 870. I foresee sticking to the 6700k for quite some time.

>>376266059
He means his cpu JUST can't push more frame when he lower his res
Maybe

>>376262574
>>376262494
You again? will you keep posting on-release benchmarks or will you update your shit like /g/ tells you to do?

>>376265094
Freesync only works with AMD.

If the new cards are shit then I'm stuck with Nvidia.

>>376266464
/g/ would've told him to fuck off after posting video game benchmarks

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>>376257371
>buy $350 laptop
>amd a10 r5 graphics, 1tb hard drive, 8gb ram
>it can play metal gear 5 and edf perfectly

Why do people even buy gaming laptops if I could do this with a cheap one? Only problem is it heats up a lot and the fan is crappy but at least it works

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should I upgrade anything :(

I just ordered a ssd

>>376266640
what res do you game on?

>>376266687
1080p

>>376266640
not really if you ask me

>>376266725
120hz monitor

>>376266537
Turn on Fastsync in the Nvidia Control Panel

>>376266537
Do you even know what Freesync is used for? Nvidia will work just fine on those monitors. You just wont get activesync wich is something that you probably will never uses.

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>>376266787
>>376266858
thanks

>>376266858
Get one with nice color and contrast it's really apreciable specially in games like doom

>>376266927
Should be noted that Fast-sync is only useful if you can maintain a framerate above your refresh rate. If you go below you're back to good old tearing.

>>376266640
>>376266725
>>376266858
Your rig is still good for another year

>>376260323
nothing wrong with those specs

>have 240hz monitor

none of you will know how amazing this looks
in FPS games it's like cheating

>>376267145
in a year do a complete new build or upgrade just gpu or cpu?

>>376265591
What can you play on that anon and at what settings? Genuinely curious.

>>376267238
>Bragging about interpolation

>>376266129
Gsync requires a card in the monitor to allow for the benefit. The AMD freesync doesn't.

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>>376267415
no interpolation here my friend

>>376260178
I've never understood the meme. I mean, I understand it from a technical standpoint, but my 970 seems to be a fucking weapon. Everything runs flawless 60fps at 1080p, which is fine by me. I'm left scratching my head every time I see 1080 owners complaining that shit like hollow knight is running badly. Makes me think a lot of people just don't know how to balance a rig properly. That being said, I wouldn't mind a 1080, my 4k tv's capabilities are kind of going to waste.

>>376264891
Near future consoles will be using Ryzen APUs as well

>>376265819
Then why get a 1070? The RX 570 or 580 are plenty for that resolution

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I need to upgrade some more.

>>376267592

>have 160-185ms reactions on 144hz monitor
>have 90ms audio reaction time

goml

>>376267396
i havent tried any high end games but i usually play most games at 720p 60 fps

>>376266927
>>376267109
You save more heat/noise using freesync or gsync compared to fast sync, especially with radeon chill

>>376268021
You can start by getting rid of Stutter lake and getting a ryzen

>>376267941
Not that guy but as someone who is making this build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FYQXGf I am looking for a good monitor down the line, yeah, the 1070 is largely wasted (And might get bottlenecked) But fuck it, getting the CPU, Mobo, and RAM for free, the rest I already have.

>>376257438
>>376257470
>defeated by the 750ti
>sweet spot
jej

>>376268021
Why on earth did you buy a 1070 for 1080p 60hx gaming?

>>376268203
Maybe he plans on upgrading his monitor? He said he needs to upgrade some more.

>>376268203
Upgrading, like I said.

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>>376264782
How is the jump from 60 to 144 Hz? Is it as dramatic as 30 to 60??

>>376257371
There is none. You get what you pay for, more or less. There is no upper limit either. Even a 1080ti is worth it on a 1080p monitor because you can always downsample, and/or shoot for 144hz.

Just go for a sensible card for your income.

>>376268338
if your framerate goes up with it, yeah.

>>376268338
imo, every jump of 15 fps is noticable and identifiable.

>>376268164
Okay? So buy an RX 570 that can perfectly power a 1080p 60hz display for $179, then buy either a 1440p 144hz IPS or 4k 60hz IPS display at $399 down the line with a GPU upgrade to whatever the best GPU you can get later on, probably Volta or Vega


Or better yet just buy an RX 570 and a 1080p 144hz free-sync display for the same price as just a 1070, possibly worth a bit more for the 8GB 580 if you can find one at $230

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xZZrCy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xZZrCy/by_merchant/

Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 4GB PULSE Video Card ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($207.85 @ Amazon)
Total: $387.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-07 20:54 EDT-0400

It's just a huge waste to get a 1070 with a 1080p 60hz display when GPUs only really get slower with time

>>376268431
wrong, diminishing returns

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>>376268338
You just won't go back to 60

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>>376259056
how about anyone, ANYONE post a video with i5 vs i7 comparison with the same specs except for the processor, and both processors being at the same frequency, and the i5 bottlenecks the system while the i7 doesn't?

point being, what matters is having at LEAST 3 cores (so, 4 on the i5), and having high frequency (around 4ghz)

having a billion cores is worth SHIT

>>376268338
Not as noticeable, but still very noticeable
30fps -> 33.3ms per frame
60fps -> 16.6ms per frame
144fps -> 6.9ms per frame

>>376268310
>>376268254
So you upgrade your monitor first or buy the monitor with a new GPU to properly power it

it makes no sense to buy a GPU that's overpowered for your display, your GPU gets underutilized, and will "degrade" in performance where a monitor won't need replacing for years

>>376265671
Ivy Bridge still strong babiiiii

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>>376268752
>having a billion cores is worth SHIT
Unless I want to record top quality gameplay using OBS?

>>376268338
>>376268750
>>376268760
144hz is only really nice for fps games and racing games

I'd much rather have a super sharp 27" 4k 60hz panel over my 1080p 144hz display

>>376268675
I didnt mean infinitely.

>>376268765
For me, it was GPU first or not have a computer at all. My computer was pretty much dead due to my GPU not being recognized by my computer any more. And the CPU was getting fried the longer I had no GPU. I'm planing on getting a nice monitor after I get paid next week.

>>376257371
Wait for Vega, honestly, if you are willing to hold out for a month.

>>376268950
>use Nvidia Jewplay
>1~2 less fps
>records fucking great and great compression
no, thanks I'll settle with less cores

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Which do you prefer, /v/?
Upgrading part by part over time and watching your PC slowly grow into a powerhouse or using a shitty computer for years until you finally buy a whole new rig and experience a sudden huge performance boost?

>>376268752
Cores will be worth more as more devs adopt Vulkan

>>376269064
The bitrate/quality isn't as high as you get with OBS using shadowplay or ReLive

>>376259175
GHZ have little to do with overall processor speed and power.

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>>376268752
>having a billion cores is worth SHIT
I'll fight you, faggot

>>376269134
that's a fictional future, when we're there then I'll say that cores are good

>>376269237
it's good enough for me, and again, tell me about the compression, I ain't going to want 10gb for 10 seconds of video

>>376269126
Upgrading part by part is a bad idea with new things always coming out or being announced

>>376269041
The speccy guy? I guess, but why not just get an 8GB 480/580? Works fine up to 1440p 60hz and gets you much cheaper free-sync displays than if you were to get G-sync

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>>376269316
show us some benchmarks on that 2.2ghz

>>376257501
1070 is enough for 1440p as long as you aren't going for 144hz.

60 fps is fine for video games
The master race fags are so annoying with their hardware nonsense
They care more about their rigs than the games
It's hilarious

>>376269253

Explain

Should I just upgrade using a credit card and pay it off for the next few years?

The price of 144 Hz monitors right now is fucking retarded.
First you have to get a 1080Ti or equivalent if you want no compromises and get 144 fps at max graphics in every game at 1080p, and that's already 600-700 bucks, then 300-400 more for a 1080p 144Hz monitor, nah I'll keep my old shit and wait until 144Hz is the norm so the prices drop.

>>376269316
>60hz monitor

>>376269785

playing at 60fps is much more of a compromise than 32x AA on some shadows.

144 isnt a meme. You have to be very young or very uninformed to think otherwise.

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What is a good 144Hz monitor? I don't want to get something cheap, but I don't need anything too huge either.

>>376269318
It's about 100MB a minute in Dota 2 for CRF 18 very fast preset.

that's just reasonable quality for webms though, youtube gameplay needs to be higher settings, goes to about 150MB a minute

Just mobo my shit up senpai.

>>376270032
Budget?

>>376269785
No? See:
>>376268628
$200 1080p 144hz Free-sync TN panel, a 570 or 580 will be fine for it, should easily average 100fps in AAA games with setting tuning

1440p 144hz IPS is $399 if that's what you meant but of course that's more expensive

>>376269893
guess you replied to the wrong guy
btw I agree with you, but until it becomes the norm companies will keep the prices as high as possible, and I doubt the price to make a 144 Hz monitor differs much from a 60 Hz one.
If you buy now you're just making the jews happy

>>376270032
AOC

>>376269387
A) Turbo
B) Frequency =/= Performance
I can't find a single game that gets bottle-necked by the CPUs, rather, the GPUs are the problem.
SLI was a horrible meme.
>>376269796
It's overclocked to 120 thanks to CRU, but yeah, might consider 144Hz one day.

>>376269318
It's a fact. At the very least, emulator devs are taking advantage of it. RPCS3 utilises cores incredibly well. Try it out.

>>376269893
>144 isnt a meme
I don't even notice 144hz really on my 144hz display, bit nicer to play dota 2, CS:GO, quake champions, but that's about it

>>376259056
It's game dependent

>>376270163
I can pay for whatever you suggest. As long as we're not going too huge. I have a 23" monitor right now, and I'm happy with it.

>>376270032
>Best cheapest 1080p option, but is a TN
Viewsonic XG2401

>Best 1080p option VA panel with better colors/angles over TN, but pricier
Samsung C24FG70

The price takes another leap once you enter 144hz 1440p IPS land, most are of comparable quality but take a $500-600 toll on your wallet.

>>376270380
Then the pixio 1440p 144hz IPS free-sync display is the best for the money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZR4_gWG4u8

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAB714894154

also on amazon

>>376257501
If you are talking gtx 1070 1080p 100+fps then yeah

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>>376260178
>tfw fell for the 380x meme last year RIGHT before 400 series came out

>>376260497
No one knows, but given its large VRAM, I'd say quite long, if you're not completely retarded about "muh ultra settings".

>>376266585
APU's are cute Cute CUTE

Depends on the brand. Aser and HP use terrible thermal paste, you should change it (and oil up your fan)

>>376260670
They said this same shit about the 900 series cards in 2014 and now my 970 is struggling with 1080p on new releases

>>376271129
>and now my 970 is struggling with 1080p on new releases
Which ones?

>>376271129
That's cause 3.5

>>376271129
You were supposed to buy the 390 its on the 980s level now

Currently on GTX 760 + I5 2520 and i'm set for at least another 4 or 5 years since i still need to play a lot of games on my backlog.

Probably, i will upgrade to a full AMD when gaming at 4k-120 htz is the norm

>>376271171
Off the top of my head? RotTR, The division, wildlands, andromeda, even witcher 3 had to turn down a couple settings.

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>bought a 960 a year ago for 260 dollars

Fuck.

>>376271415
Only 250W before overclocking!

>>376257826
1050 non-Ti has its place and purpose for those who simply can't drop money on a proper videocard

If that sounds like your situation then it wasn't a fuck up, although I personally think 1050 Ti would be worth saving up a few more dollars for within this budget tier.

>>376261462
Yep, I have a 1070 and I ran it at 1440 with 90+ FPS.

>you're lying!

Nah.

>>376259475
Yes you pull those out and plug well the plug whichever connection you don't use just keep the rubber shit there.

>>376271607
>1060 came out May 2016
How did you even manage that? 1060 was $200 for 3GB and $250 for 6GB.

>>376259519
Try buying an OC version of the card it makes significant difference not huge but noticeable.

>>376272815
July, not may. May was the 1080.

>>376257826
The 1050ti is the exact same thing as a GTX 960.
My grill is using an AMD 6350 (4.3ghz) | GTX 960
A PC I built for my buddy from old parts is an AMD 6350 (3.9ghz) | GTX 1050ti

Only difference between the two was something like 100 points(GF being more) on Valley Benchmark.

>>376272938
Oh well. Just wait for X is always a meme, unless there's a release date just up ahead...

>>376257371
>4k
1080
>anything else
1070

>>376264885
Why is it a bad idea?

>>376273447
Because tech gets cheaper all the time.

>>376270248
Emulators especially won't benefit from cores. Dolphin, PCSX2, CEMU and below- none of them will benefit from throwing more cores because they use such a limited number of them to begin with.

>got a titan in a giveaway
>put it in a computer with a AMD FX-6300 processor

SOMEBODY LOCK ME UP

>EVGA GTX 1070 SC

I'm loving this card ever since I got it months ago. Even Far Cry 4 maxed usually gets north of 90 fps at 1080p, especially looks great with a 144hz monitor. Despite the heat pad memes, the cooling for the card is great and it barely spools high enough to hear unless I'm playing something like Far Cry 4 or MGSV maxed for over an hour.

The only game that runs like shit is Subnautica, and that's just because it's unoptimized shit.

>>376273672
Sell that shit you moron

>>376272973
>My grill is using an AMD 6350 (4.3ghz) | GTX 960
Overkill for a thing that makes food for you

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>>376259869

I say treat yourself, my friend. If you've never spent the money then why not?

>>376260323
wow, third world

>>376273740
Was looking at the EVGA card or the MSI card. Can't decide yet.

My PC is like 8 years old now and was bad then. How much would a rig that can play everything on highest settings + a 144hz monitor?

>>376273939

I went EVGA because I don't buy into the "military grade" marketing campaign and I think their cards have horribly tacky shrouds. EVGA also does a great job putting out driver updates regularly.

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I have a bottleneck somewhere. I just don't hit the number of frames I think I should on some games. PUBG, for example, comes to mind. And I am sorry if it's not appropriate to post here, but I just don't know currently.

>>376274314
PUBG is hilariously unoptimized open world early access trash, it shouldn't be a surprise.

>>376273991
2kish

>>376271607
Same, but 6 months before for $180

>>376274530

"Comes to mind" How about only 100 frames on Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen? Dropping Frames, screen tearing, stuttering down to 45 fps on Metro: 2033 on max? I should be above that kind of shit by now.

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>>376274314
>>376274530
PubicUnknowns Betaground?
You mean the game that fucking fails to render walls randomly?

Upgrading my GTX680 to play the new Final Fantasy online expansion.

Should I get a GTX 1060? is the 3GB version a meme?

I've never used AMD can anything they have around the same price compete?

>>376274729
With your 60hz monitor its not like you'd even notice the 100fps you're getting in DD.

>>376274916
>is the 3GB version a meme?
The worst meme. Gimped chip and not enough vram.

>>376274976

You are entirely correct, but I like to stay consistent. Stuttering completely ruins immersion for me and I'm just trying to get the best experience I can within reason.

Maybe It's time to replace the mobo? It's the oldest piece besides the monitor.

Just got a 1070, enjoying 80+ fps at 1440 for demanding gmes, over 100 for games like OW gonna get another 1070 and sli later

>>376274916
>is the 3GB version a meme?
it's a gtx 970 with 1gb less vram instead of 0.5gb

>>376257371
I bought a 1080 but everyone says my games will run like shit, is this true?

>>376274916
for ~$200 usd you can also get the rx 580 4gb, which tends to be slightly better, but if I were you I'd spend a bit more and get either the 1060 6gb or the 580 8gb

RX580

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>>376257371
Quantum 3D mercury.

What should I be looking for in a mobo? Other than compatibility with all my other parts, it seems like there's not much to it.

Will a G10 Kraken fit on a GTX 1060?

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>>376275101
Download Heaven Benchmark 4.0 and post what kind of score you get using the settings I use. Our builds are relatively similiar (though I use an MSI 970 with an i5 OC'ed to 4.4hz). I would only be concerned if your numbers were drastically lower than mine.

>>376258546
Then you don't have the money. Pretending to not be poor and being ok with middle to low end of everything in life is being poor and not having money.

>>376276092

Having money (within reason) doesnt mean you buy bad deals.

>>376274916
You should probably get the 6gb one if you're going for the 1060.

As a side note, the 1050Ti is also viable for the Stormblood expansion if you want something cheaper. I have a 1050Ti and I ran the benchmark and I got around 9000 on it so it is also very good for Final Fantasy.

>>376276221
As someone who's getting a 1070 for the same reason, its good to know that my upgrades will go to good use and will demolish the expansion. Will be nice to have great visuals, great load times and the like.

>>376275986
I would disable AA in Heaven cause it gives loads of hicups in any gpu giving you very low scores.

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>>376261532
>7700k
Great CPU if you like shitty frametimes and housefires.

I have a 6700k i7 and 1080 how did i do?

>>376259869
Wait™ for Vega

>>376276519
Just de-lid and apply proper compound.

>>376276612
Actually, wait for the Nvidia's response to vega.

>>376276612
Seriously, if nothing else it will force Nvidia to react in a way that they haven't had to for some time now.

The information extracted from the Linux kernel and Mesa patches for enabling Vega support has been pretty encouraging.

>>376257371
As a person without bias for Nvidia or AMD.

The 1060 6gb is perfect for almost all people for the price. If you need something cheaper, don't bother, save up for a 1060. If you want something better wait for AMD or get a 1080 on the cheap for $375-435 used.

The 1060 with ram OCed always outdoes the rx480/580. Some fucked reason Nvidia decided to act autistc and fuck the ram up (like their 970) and with a slight core clock boost and a modest ram boost you always can out do, by a lot, a 970 or rx480/580.


If you even think a 1070 is a good buy, just get a used 1080 for a few bucks more. Or get a used 980ti for much less . 1050ti or 1050 is for people that need that size or power card, they are shit for their price. RX480/580 are only worth it if you can get one for $150. !080ti is worth it if you have the money, as I can finally play a mess more games at 2160p or 3440x1440.

Until AMD finally tosses their next cards into the fire, we don't have much reason to buy one of their cards unless on a crazy deal. Their best card is still the Fury X and that is weaker than a 980ti which is weaker than the 1070 (by a small bit) and the 980ti are sold for $250-280 on plenty of sites used now.

>>376276906
The only things I can say in the favor of the 480/580 is that they're almost certainly going to age better than the 1060 so if you're not the sort of person who buys a card every year you'll probably keep seeing decent performance long after they stop appearing regularly in benchmarks on hardware review sites.

Plus AMD's open source driver strategy has been really paying off for them as outside developers have been producing quality and performance that I don't think we'll ever see from their official team. With the big advantage being that unlike Nvidia who can introduce patches that degrade performance AMD now can't get away with that kind of behavior at least when you're on the open drivers.
Which if you use AMD honestly you really should be using, though in most cases it will probably mean upgrading your OS.

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>>376275986
>>376275101
Actually this is a more accurate bench on my end, I didn't think windowed mode would fuck with my average fps so much.

>>376276459
I've definitely seen those hiccups, but for a ballpark "is my gpu retarded" test its probably fine.

>>376270032
VG248QE

>>376257371
>tfw trusty, faithful GTX 770 finally gave up the ghost two weeks ago
>just ordered a 3GB 1060 coming in on tuesday

I'm hoping it's just enough of an upgrade so I can run all of the 2015-2016 games on high settings at 60fps. The most consumptive games I play right now are GTA V and Siege so if I can get those out of all low settings then I'll be perfectly satisfied for the next couple years.

>>376261478
No it's not.

>>376259519
If you care about noise yes

>>376277657
Congratulations, you got the worst card of the generation.

>>376274916
AMD 480 competes with the 1060 and in some cases it beats it. I don't know about prices, but you should get the 8 gb version

>>376276679
Thats a dangerous thing to do man. People screw their cpu's even when they know how to do it

I have a gtx 760 on a phenom 2.

Is it viable to upgrade to 960 or 1050 ti?

Because I wanna get one more upgrade out of this machine.

>>376257501
What about a 2160p?

>>376274314
Type in player unknowns fps guide on YouTube and there's a 15 min video detailing how you can get max fps for your pc. The guy also has a 970 and in the clips he showed, he was getting 90+ fps consistently.

The tips are also useful for games in general because he tells you about ways you can unbloat your pc with software like ccleaner and driverboost for outdated drivers like cpu drivers. One thing I'd not recommend you do is turn of paging file though which is what he tells you do to in the vid.

>>376278245
1080ti

If you fall for the meme do it properly

>>376258759
I have a 1050 in my laptop, every game I play runs perfectly fine on high settings at 60fps and 1080p. There was a problem with having too many pre-rendered frames making every single game stutter, but setting it to 1 instead of 4 fixed it

>>376278092
Probably not. You'll really want to upgrade Motherboard (AM4), CPU (Ryzen 5), RAM (DDR4 as fast as possible) and GPU (580 or baby Vega). You should be able to keep all your other stuff though which should help keep the cost down.

If you need a really low budget option for whatever reason, the Ryzen/Vega SOC chips are coming later this year with a single quad core CCX and onboard graphics that should be around where the RX 550 is.

>>376273672
Went from amd fx6300 to i7700k
So much better

it was for PUBG too

>>376279360
Never updated CPU. Always kept it until I threw out the entire motherboard anything to keep in mind?

How does the 1060 hold up currently?

has it been outdated?