Why is this allowed?

Yeah, should be a bit longer

are 100 hour games a bad thing or something? I'm not understanding this post.

What's wrong with more content?

>>376256137
I beat the main story in 65 hours, who the fuck takes 90 unless you're playing on the masochistic difficulty level?

>>376256297
safety-fag spotted

I want to fuck your ass

>>376256237
>>376256243
>>376256259
Confirmed for haven't played the game. at least 20 hours of this game are spent through loading screen, story weeks, and tons of filler daily events.

>>376256297
I took 74 but did quite a bit of grinding at the end to make some cool personers.

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>>376256297
I finished in almost 100 hours on the dot.

>>376256137
Game is not meant for people who have jerbs. Or school for that matter.

>>376256297
105 hours for reloading and doing most of the achievements like catching the guardian, all vidya, all books, maxing all confidants, etc.

>>376256567
Sounds like Persona brah. There's always a ton of filler; its sort of the nature of being a life sim.

Of course the game could be a lot shorter if they cut some of that out.

>>376256137
>>376256567
oh don't you know? having 90 percent of the game having ZERO FUCKING GAMEPLAY is okay when sony does it

fuck this place is literally sonygaf you cucks need to FUCK OFF

>>376256567
Not really. Maybe you should stop playing on Safety?

>>376256787
That's completionist though, which makes you extremely quick

>>376256881
Actually everyone makes fun of Sony for having games with "ZERO FUCKING GAMEPLAY." The social sections are gameplay anyway since it's like a time management kind of thing. And /v/ always liked Persona. Are you new here?

>>376256137

The length of this game is only an issue because half of the 90 hours is mostly pointless dialog.

>>376256894
I played the game on hard, moron. Took me 120 hours to beat, not counting all the time spent resetting to get optimal dialogue choices for confidant stuff.

The game is padded to hell and back with shit like them loading your room, only for your only option to sleep and go to another day with literally zero gameplay. This happens after every palace, and these weeks of cutscenes almost made me drop the game multiple times, this is coming from someone who likes the rest of the games.

The pacing is shit.

>>376257171
fuck off sony SHILL your the cancer killing this board

>>376256787
FUCK the guardian. seriously though, that was a pretty annoying fish to catch. the first time I tried it pretty much immediately destroyed my rod while the second time I got it without any trouble

>play Persona game 12-14 hours a day every day until I beat it
>sit in my chair for nearly an hour after I'm done
>life has no meaning
>go to bed and cry even though it's only the mid afternoon
>repeat every couple years

I would make $1,000 at my job in 100 hours.

>>376257251
I'm pretty sure your IQ is below 80, can you leave this thread please?

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>>376257219
>120 hours to beat
Wow, how are you so bad? This is my first Persona game and I finished hard on 90 hours, almost maxing all stats and confidants.

>>376257832
he's a lying cuck, that's how

>>376257720

You need a new job senpai. That's poverty wages.

>>376257832
I maxed all the confidants, and playtime for this particular game has no bearing on skill. You have a set number of days, so the playtime can only differ so much. I'm pretty sure at least ten of those hours were spent idling, because I have a bad habit of doing that.

Anyways, I feel sorry for morons who have only played 5. 3 is leagues ahead of it, and I even find myself liking 4 more after finally finishing it. Never thought it could be possible to fuck up that badly.

>>376256259
Some of us have jobs, social lives and other interests

>lure the guardian all the way to joker by setting the line and pulling it back out before he snags it
>hook him right at the edge and catch him in 0.5 seconds

>>376258097
I also find it hard to see how either of the other two games could possibly be over this on any technical or stylistic level. Persona 3 suffered from an even worse division of time with even fewer things to do, while Persona 4 had the exact same problems with the budget of a cum sock.

>>376257934
It's actually pretty cozy for me right now. I'm living with my parents and taking a break from college. I just have to work 4-5 hours a day for a few days a week unloading boxes from a truck.

>completionist 160 hours
How fucking slow are people?

>>376257832
>Teleport instead of walking
>Reading speed
>ps3 load vs ps4 load
>spending hour in the vr making cool shit vs just making some quick personas
>grinding on mementos

There are plenty of reason for the huge difference in time

>>376258137
sounds like "some of you" should kill yourselves

>>376258542
>getting literally every persona

Have you ever done this? Do you know how goddamn long this takes to fuse every group persona? I haven't done it in 5 yet but it took ages in P4G.

>>376258256
>Persona 3 has an even worse division of time with even fewer things to do
>Can go into tartarus at night, and doesn't completely eat up your entire day unless you have a social link maxed
>Is extremely hard to max all social links, especially compared to P5, meaning time is always valuable.
>The cutscene weeks of that game had bosses in the form of the full moon fights, meaning you aren't mashing through boring dialogue while Ryuji yells about how shitty adults are for hours on end, while a cat tells you to go to bed 7 days in a row

Persona 5 is style over substance. The characters are shit, the plot is terrible, and the ending is as cheesy as it gets.

>>376258137
No one is asking you to finish it in a month.
Take your time

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>>376258559
>>spending hour in the vr making cool shit vs just making some quick personas

>you will never spend 2 hours exiting and reentering the fusion menu to make the perfect persona again

this shit was always a good 30% of my clock in SMT games

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>>376258705
>>376258137

>>376258542
Getting to the point in ng+ where you can 100% the game would take about 160 hours.
You do know what completionist means right anon?

>>376258635

The same could be said about P3

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>>376256137
Enjoyed the game, but seriously, fuck 100 hour long games

>Spend time across a month to beat it
>Suddenly no willpower to play other vidya or anything else but shitposting on /v/

>>376258624
Nigga, I just finished the game with 83% completed compendium and seven gorillion yen.

>>376256137
Just beat it yesterday. Didn't minmax too hard, and only skipped 4/5 mementos requests and I ended up with 68 hours. What did I fuck up?

>completionist
>160

I did it in 90

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How long did you guys wait/are planning to wait after finishing P5 before starting NG+?

About 10 minutes here

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>We are currently living in an age where long games are now seen as a bad thing

Wake me up inside

>>376258887
Really? P3 rehashes P4's ending, with the perfect main characters living happily ever after?

>>376258635
>can go into a lifeless randomly generated dungeon at night
Why would you defend a blatantly worse gameplay feature? Persona 5's dungeon crawling blows 3's out of the water. Going into it at night doesn't make it any better. 5 has enough peripheral things to accomplish to at least make it easily worthwhile.
Making generalizing statements about the game being bad doesn't make it bad. Even fucking Ohya's link was way more interesting than telling the Star to sit the fuck down because of his leg over 7 different ranks. Or having a guy tell you he has cancer. Or having some old people tell you their son is dead, with the only development being a tree at school.

>>376258542

Its 140+ hours to Plat give or take. You need to farm mementos bosses for cash using the confuse exploit, level to max by farming reaper,and going autistic in the velvet room. Even if you go fast forward in ng+, that's still around 40-50 hours from start to finish added.

>>376259002
I have a backlog miles high, and even other SMT games i'd rather replay. Probably won't NG+ for a few years.

>>376259023
P5 really could have had a solid 20% of it shaved off and not lost anything. The pacing in every Persona game is really bad in parts, P5 is no exception.

>>376259002

I started NG+ and got to the point where you can start Kamoshida's palace in earnest but I think I'll leave it at that for now.

>>376259023
Game length isn't everything, otherwise no one would play anything other than competitive multiplayer games or MMOs.

>>376256567
>loading screens

is this a ps3 problem?

Everything takes about a second to load.

>>376256137
>>376258137
>people are complaining about a game having too much value for their money
only on /v/

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>>376259119
>140+

maybe if you suck.

>>376259054

It gives a bittersweet ending for the sake of a bittersweet ending. Game's plot is forced as shit, which isnt a surprise since its inspiration is Evangelion.

>>376259002
A year or two. I did P4G after a few months and got burned out and stopped at the Heaven level, I want to make sure that I properly finish P5 and get all the Confidant ranks to 10 on my next playthrough.

P5 also encourages changing up your team with backup XP and Hifumi's party member switch, so it's not even like P3 or P4 where you have a completely different squad the next time, that makes me want to put an even larger gap.

>>376259023
Judging a game by it's length is stupid anyway.

I'd rather a 4 hour game that's amazing than a 50 hour game that's mediocre.

But it goes the other way too. Pure length isn't an indicator of any kind of quality

>>376259229
Nah.
You have to get to at least mid November in ng+ to plat, which is nearly the end of the game you already finished once.

>>376259229

Average time to complete a first playthrough is around 100 hours. Are you saying you just fastforwarded every dialogue and didn't savor the scenes? Stop lying.

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>>376259002
I think I'll wait for p5:Crimson to replay.
Goro's story was to bad for me to have any desire to re experience it.

>>376259191
The problem is all the padding that slows down the game and artificially lengthens it. A game is like a book, or film, it's not complete when there's nothing left to add, it's complete when there's nothing left to remove. I love the Persona series, but all of them are guilty of serious bloat.

>>376259097
Now, I'm not defending P3 or P4's shitty randomly generated dungeons, and those are still in P5 anyways, however, P5's palace dungeons are still shit. They consist of long corridors with things you jump across, some of the most basic puzzles(all the way up to the final dungeon, mind you), and blind guards that you will ambush every single time. The enemies are often placed where you're forced to fight, rendering any stealth attempts pointless.

They're not a step up from the shit we've been getting, I miss good dungeon crawling from games like Strange Journey and Nocturne.

>>376259229

So you're saying that you beat the twins by May? Nice lie faggot.

>>376259415
My playthrough on Hard was 73 hours. I don't think I was rushing at all. I didn't listen to dialogue if I read it through first, if that means anything.

>>376259516
>The enemies are often placed where you're forced to fight, rendering any stealth attempts pointless.
You know of the crafting table right? You can fly through dungeons by using those stealth items.

>>376256137

I can't wait for the enhanced edition, I'm dying for more content

140 hours so far here

>>376259516
For all its faults #FE has way better dungeons than this game.

>>376259614
And have even less gameplay? Are you insane? Not sure why those are even a thing, anyways, when you can teleport to any save room.

>>376259476
>artificially
i hate this meme

>>376259660
I'd agree actually. No surprise, since the Strange Journey team worked on it.

I hope it gets ported to the Switch eventually, I don't have a Wii-U anymore to replay it.

>>376259516
Don't defend shit like Nocturne if you're going to stand there and say Persona 5's are uninspired. Any positives Nocturne has in terms of dungeon design are similarly reflected in P5 in terms of making logical layout sense. The only difference being that Nocturne has random unavoidable encounters and balancing issues. Even then, people generally had trouble with it because they weren't smart about leveling or picked shitty magatamas. I do wish P5 was a bit harder, but I don't think it's really the fault of the game.

>>376257692
I do this but it's my whole life

>>376259614
I only used spotlights because they're OP as fuck
>have a persona that has curse and physical immunity
>spotlight myself during Akechi fight
>laugh as he deals no damage and we ass rape him

>>376259128
Actually the game needs a couple extra hours in the end. The last "dungeon" per say, felt very short.

>>376256297
I finished at 160, but I spent a lot of time with fusions, getting all the best weapons/armor/crystal skulls, flu day reaper, and getting all the trophies.
>>376258137
>please make all games ten hours long so I can play them too
That's your own problem. Just don't play video games.

>>376259142

it's only slightly longer to load things on the PS3 version.

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I wish it was longer

>>376258137
I work 40-50 hour weeks and I'm just finishing the game, I can still play 2-5 hours after work.

>>376256567
are 80 hour games a bad thing or something? I'm not understanding this post

>>376256137
>i love buying season passes goy

>>376259840
Nocturne has good dungeons though, especially compared to fuckin' P5's. The final floor puzzles you do in the last dungeon in P5 is some shit you should be doing in the first dungeon of a game.

>>376259915
I wish my boyfriend's penis was longer but we can't always get what we want.

>>376259885
That dungeon went on and on and on, my god. Although that being said, it probably didn't help that I had to clear two entire sections of Mementos before even getting to it. If you're counting the staircase before the last boss then that's not even a dungeon, that's just the pre-boss activity.

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Why would you play this game when you could play one of Bethesda's masterfully crafted titles that includes 300+ hours of content? Why is this allowed?

So how long does it take to finish? I stopped playing after 50hs three weeks ago. Made it until Futaba and back to school again.

>>376259932
Do you have an extra long commute or something? As do I but I managed to play a solid 4-6 every night, and an easy 12+ on weekends. Beat it in just under 2 weeks.

>>376260049
>If you're counting the staircase before the last boss then that's not even a dungeon, that's just the pre-boss activity.

Yep. I wanted a dungeon here instead of pre-boss activity.

>>376260120

Another 40 to 50 hours give or take.

>>376260243
Meh, that's way too fucking long. I mean I enjoyed myself so far but I don't feel like putting the disc inside again. Persona 5 would've been the perfect handheld game but in front of a TV it's just boring

>>376260012
Puzzles not included, of course, because dungeon puzzles are a huge mood killer if they do it wrong. I'm not gonna defend P5's difficulty, but it at least matches DDS or Nocturne in variety. The perfect dungeon would be something like P5's mechanics with Strange Journey level design, with no darkness or pitfall bullshit. P5's darkness section was equally garbage because it was trivialized by third eye. Having better sound cues would fix both immensely.

>>376260338
>Persona 5 would've been the perfect handheld game

switch port when

>>376256881
No, it's okay when Japan does it. That's the biggest distinction here. Especially if the franchise or Dev is considered decent at the very least. The board is massively hypocritical. This is what happens when you try to assign preferences to anonymous posters, though.

>>376260120
If it took you 50 hours to get that far, it'll be nearly that long to finish. Why it took you 50 hours is beyond me though.

>>376260342
I was dumbfounded when third eye worked for that darkness part. I even checked the hidden passage first because I saw it first, and got unique dialogue.

>>376260131
About 2 hours per day commuting, sometimes I have to do other things before vidya too.

>>376259002
I'll probably wait. I have a harder time replaying games than I did as a kid, with very few exceptions. I'll probably give it another go in about a year or so, probably on NG+ to max out social links.

>>376260603
>About 2 hours per day commuting
I'm so sorry bro. That was me when I used to live in Toronto. Thank god I moved to a small town where my commute is under 4 minutes round trip

>>376260537
I think maybe 45 I'm not sure. I usually don't even listen to the dialogue just read the lines

And I often had to stop for 15 min when the doctor called me guinea pig

>>376259002
I started it as soon as I finished it because I don't want to stop until I fill out the rest of the compendium and get the MCs best weapon. Blew through Kamoshida's dungeon in about an hour.

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Still not enough hours with my wife

>>376260115
280+ hours of who gives a shit, that's why. I do like Bethesda rpgs though

>>376261001
This.

More waifu events plz.

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>>376261257
I'd pay full price for an enhanced version again if it has more time with muh wife or yuri feMC

>>376256259
>>376259191
more content doesn't make a better game, it can completely fuck up pacing and make it a chore to get through. Gravity Rush 2 is a prime example

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>Complaining that a game is too long
>Complaining that a RPG is too long
just stick to Battlefield or COD next time

>b-but muh job
You suck at time management

>>376262369
>implying the issue people have is with length and not the fact that it's padded as fuck

Name one, just one game over 80 hours that cannot have anything edited out?

>>376259542
>not beating the twins by may
Hell even youtube videos shitting out couple weeks ago beating twins

Anyone else miss doing school stuff? In P3 and P4 you had far more Social Links in and around school with clubs and shit, P5 has none of that, it's all weird adults outside of school.

>>376262506
>padded out

It's not a collect-a-ton like most games where you go to a specific spot to get a collectible that does nothing.

>>376257171
No don't bring this "logic" thing into this. IT IS NOT GAMEPLAY IT HAS ZERO GAMEPLAY BECAUSE SONY IS ALWAYS WRONG

REPEAT AFTER ME:
SONY IS ALWAYS WRONG
SONY IS ALWAYS WRONG
SONY IS ALWAYS WRONG
SONY IS ALWAYS WRONG

>>376262369
Friendly reminder that Chrono Trigger, one of the universally agreed best RPGs of all time, doesn't even break 20 hours.

Persona 3 and 4 had tons of padding as well to make them really long. I have preferred other JRPG's over them even when their length is around 12 hours to complete just for the fact that you always feel like you are progressing rapidly rather than building up a bunch of stats to unlock social links that require charisma, strength, knowledge, or what ever threshold.

>>376256137

>tfw 50 hours on palace 4

hard was a mistake

>>376263096
>50 hours
What the fuck, did you get fucked over by the dogs?
I died mostly to falling asleep and getting ambushed.
Bringing Isis was Ez mode

>>376256137

Because it's not a 6 to 8 hour action game.

>>376263262

The only faggot that gave me trouble was Anubis

>Isis
Yeah she counters anubis, but the rest of the party gets fucked

Also
>Wakaba dive skill kills defending party members
nervouslaugh.png

If I didn't have shiki on this fight I would get fucked

How is merciless difficulty? i want to get fucked up but not in the mood for smt

how hard is hard on the first playthough? can it be done or is it impossible hard?

>>376260115
Because persona is actually good,Todd.

>>376264731

It can be done
It makes you clench your butt everytime you don't do a perfect turn and the enemy makes a move tho

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>most players just use this nigga through the entire game

Why is this allowed?

>>376267063

Literally the Drake Sword of this game. He's only ever good up until Space Station where a lot of the enemies will use magic instead. His stat progression is pretty bad too and you're better off with stronger personas down the line

>>376268142
He's god-like against Akechi if you use a spotlight.

>>376268282
By the time you get to Akechi you can either fuse or recruit a Rangda.

>>376267063
Why would they when there's way better personas available even right after you can get him.

>>376258137
This game is literally for people who have none of those.

>>376258287
Your loss is someone who has more motivations gain.

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>that guy who fast forwarded and slept on off-days to beat the game in under 120 hours

>>376258857
Most underrated post in the whole thread. I'm dying from this response cause they literally throw that at you every 15 seconds