Action RPG

I don't know. Dragon's Dogma is an amazing game though.

RPGs in general are top tier

but a good action RPG like DD will stay with your for a long time after you stopped playing
it does require a lot of attention to detail though

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The genre needs a gentle push

>>376252675
I prefer SRPG instead. How about RPG's is the best genre?

>>376252852
>>376253042
>>376253635
>>376253724
i like you guys, let's be IRL friends

I cant tell if I'm really bad at this game, or you're just supposed to read the wiki before playing.

>get the quest to go to the bottom of the everfell.
>get to the bottom.
>its a bunch of infinitely respawning tentacles.

>run back up to gran soren
>get the quest to kill the leader of the bandits in the castle ruins.
>He runs up and oneshots everybody in my party, one at a time, including me.

I am hoping for a Dragon's Dogma sequel on the PS4.

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It's certainly up there.

>>376253952
The game is pretty challenging in the beginning. Just level up your characters and pick easier quests.

>>376253952
that bandit group is famous for fuckin new players, just pick them off and power through

>>376253958
It's getting announced next month at E3.

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no. sports games best genre.

RPG is a stupid name for a genre. Every game has you play a role. Adding action to it is even dumber since nearly all games have action and combat.

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>>376253958
A Dragon's Dogma sequel would be one of the few games I'd be willing to purchase a console for.

>>376254548
hey its that guy that doesnt like names of things

>>376254548
Who cares. You still know exactly what people mean by "RPG."

>>376253952
GIT GUD

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>>376252675
DD combat was a bit too strict on level progression for my taste.

But it had all the aspects of my personal 10/10 game, it just didn't nail them all.

Crafting felt useless, exploration (rooftops etc.) didn't reward you enough, and the monster mounting should've been more fleshed out.

Worst part was that all the sub-plots seemed to be missing their finales.

>>376254548
Yea but a role-playing implies you do more than just take a role, you define it. You control how they interact, with whom, for what reason, how they grow and change, etc. Of course a lot of games have mechanics like that today but you'll notice they say "we added rpg mechanics" and not "we turned into an rpg" The mechanics only add imersion, the purpose of the RPG is that it is an extension of yourself

>>376255169
the game was planned to be a super massive skyrim-killer to end all skyrim-killers

unfortunately, the team just wasn't good enough, and many compromises had to be made during development

>>376255169
I feel You, the game has a lot to be perfect and the witcher 3 killer... but there's something missing

>>376252675
Too much positivity for dragon's dogma in this thread.
This guy will tell you whats wrong with the game because I can't be arsed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2BNxpYz9rk

>rpgs are the best genre
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>376254548
oh boy it's this autist again

>>376255443
We know the game isn't near to be perfect, but i was so fucking good to be from modern capcom,

>>376255534
is this your way of saying i agree

>>376255662
>this is his actual opinion
hahahahahahaha

>>376254548
You're technically not wrong but what else would you call it?

Quickly name some PC Action RPGs worth playing.

>>376255802
post what your idea of the best genre is then? until then i wont be taking you seriously bro

>>376255950
hahahahahahaha

>>376255443
tl;dw

>>376255983
>people who post "hahahahaah"

>>376252675
Yes. RPGs that go too hard into number crunching stat rolls are retarded.

>>376255443
>guys stop liking this game, here's a 30 minute video explaining why you shouldn't like it

Autism.

>>376252675
I feel like starting a new game+

THE WIND IS PUSHING MEEEEE

I never bothered with side quests and I feel like I missed on a lot of content

>>376253635
Pics of that character? Looks rad as hell.

>>376255802
hehhehehehhe

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Why is it so hard to find decent action combat rpgs? I love them, but they always end up being either a button smash fest, Or have no gear depth.

I just want to be able to run 4 man dungeons with people and have a good time.

>>376252675
>says action rpg is the best genre
>posts one of the most mediocre action rpgs

>>376252675
No, just Action.

Dogma is actually a great example of what can go wrong when you add all the number fluff.

>>376255443
>retard with shit taste links to video of retard with shit taste spouting his shit taste
Wow

>>376256208
Someone who thinks a 30 minute video is too long clearly has never properly played and rpg.

Fuck off back to overwatch.

>>376256404
>being wrong and dumb

mediocre compared to what lmfao

>>376252675
did anyone ever make a mod for the pc version to put the WIND back into this game?

>>376256482
There are more "umms" in that video than final fantasy titles.

Tells me how poor it is.

>>376256482
It's too long for a video that's supposed to tell me that I'm wrong for liking a game.

Also I've never played overwatch.

Faggot.

>>376255443
>i can't enjoy the game because everything must be perfect or otherwise my autism will be triggered
And this is why Matthew is better. He accepts that a game has flaws but don't let them get in the way of his fun.

>>376256639
>never played Overwatch
Now who's the real casual?

>>376254548
RPG = Branching story affected by the players choices in dialogue and actions, character progression through XP/levels which unlocks abilities and item progression through loot and/or crafting. All these elements are found in nearly every single game on the market but only RPGs combine them all.

Can't you all just have good taste like me? Can't you all just be cool like me?

>>376252675
Is Warrior total shit and not worth leveling? Should I go assassin for melee damage?

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>>376256273
Character's fresh, so not many shots yet.
Also, need to fix the butterface.

>>376256846
Warrior was worth it to me just to hit that perfect arc.

>>376256846
Warrior is certainly playable but it suffers due to most of the harder enemies being designed around pinpoint damage, which it is shit at.

It does at least get some crazy items in the expansion to compensate for it somewhat, but only being able to set 3 skills and having limited options to ever deal with encounters will never get better.

>>376257174
Fuck, looked cool as hell except the face. What armor is that?

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>>376257298
You can have my character anon.

>>376256574
No there isn't.

>>376256563
Mediocre in terms of action rpgs, you sperg.

The combat is all style no substance. The only thing that matters is grinding levels and gear. Your own skill doesn't.

The story is a complete mess with arcs just stopping unresolved without payoff or consequences and the tone is all over the place, one time feeling like your average generic fantasy mmo only to shift towards trying to ape the dark and gritty feel of Berserk for a brief time.

The climbing mechanics are just a poor imitation of Shadow of the Colossus.

The pawn system is half baked and disjointed from the setting. It feels like they were trying to make an mmo, initially, but then had to recycle it into a single player game.

There are some good elements in there and it's a nice looking game (for it's time and platform), but overall this is neither a good action game nor rpg.

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>>376257627

>>376257741
What would you consider a good action rpg? I think Dogma is pretty great personally.

>>376257741
shut the fuck up kid

>>376257746
>tfw having female character
>whole squad is all cute girls
>get my ass wiped by ogres all the time
>especially in those mines you have to get through
>had to borrow my friend's lvl 100 warrior just to wipe the ogres for me

literally no reason for weapons to have any sort of stat enhancements other than padding

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>>376257627
Thanks, but I already have my own.

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>>376257298
>Maiden's Camisole
>Maiden's Petticoat
>Scholar's Bangle
>Battle Greaves

And of course Silk Lingerie.
And look, I found a cure for the butterface!

>>376257931
>2016-01-22

>>376257627
>2016-01-19

Jesus guys.

>>376257997
Can guys wear that outfit or somethinf similar? I wanna make a Hercules.

>>376258007
Yeah, I'm reinstalling right now and I'll make a new one.

>>376258007
It'll be you one day too.
Don't forget you're here forever.

>>376255440
you mean content.

>>376257174
Where do you get that sword?!?

>>376252675

Name ONE Action RPG that has actual GOOD RPG mechanics and stat systems.

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>>376258007
I heard we are posting oldies?

>>376252675
Just finished DD, i cried a little

>>376257840
Gothic

Interesting world, engaging story, memorable characters and quests.
Combat may not be complex but it works and provides an equal need for personal skill as well as gear/level progression.

I fondly remember even the average fetch quests because they were interesting and unique.

In DD quests almost always boild down to kill X amount of this, go from A to B or bring me this item and there's no personality to them.

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>quests completed: 60

Did I miss on a lot? Granted I didn't even bother with expansion.

>>376258463
get the fuck out of DD thread if you don't like it faggot

>>376258463
So it sounds like you prefer Capital RPG lower case action. I prefer the reverse. The action elements are way more important to me so I'd rather play Dragon's Dogma. All I need from the story is to send to places to fight fun enemies and give me cool gear.

>>376256348
so where does dragon age fall on the spectrum? No gear depth/dull skills yet fun dungeons? I like the idea of single player mmorpgs if fun.

>>376258512
It's not a Dragons Dogma thread, you baby.

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I tried to be creative.

>>376252675
Dragons dogma 2 when?

How important are the stat growths for stuff like HP Stamina in this game?

>>376258623
That's pretty dope.

>>376258480
Most of the quests you probably missed were just the "kill x enemy, escort y npc" quests from the boards. Also play the expansion, it's unironically the best part of the game.

>>376258645
I would even settle for DDO at this point. The entire time I was playing DD I was thinking about how sick co-op would be. That shield or sword launch ability seems like it was made for co-op.

>>376258572
Well, in that case Dark Souls wipes the floor with Dragons Dogma.
Or Shadow of the Colossus.

>>376258724
Can I jump to expansion right after opening sequence in New Game+? Also I didn't explore that wakestone world much, I killed the eye, hydra and some other enemies but some door remained closed. I guess it's just place to grind.

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The character creator was crazy fun to play around in.

>>376252675
I cant help but feel like DD was good because it was rushed.

Given more time I suspect Capcom would start adding needless fluff and ruin what made DD fun in the first place.

Plus given the direction DDO has gone I am not looking forward the idea of a DD2 where its wacky anime tier bullshit as you fly around a monster punching it to death.

>>376258623
fucking navajos

>>376258790
I disagree there. I've been on the souls bandwagon since demon's dropped, but the games are mechanically really simple. Do I need to master perfect parries in Dragon's Dogma? No, but it's fun as hell and takes me back to dmc a little bit.

I think Dark Souls is one of the greatest games of all time, and although DD's combat was shallow it was still really fun.

That said I think Grand Strategy is the best genre.

>tfw no Dragons Dogma 2
>tfw Alchemy class was wasted on the DDO shitpile

>>376258594
I found the quick dungeons rather fun. Mostly because it gave a bit of challenge.

Gear progression is slugish as fuck so far to me. The combat is tab-target though with action abilities and actual hitboxes.

It's pretty much similar to XCX in that spectrum. Also I enjoy offline MMO type games as well. But I would love it more if I can have a online dungeon mode with them.

Similar to the way Destiny does it where I could queue up to play events with other players.

>>376254303
>playing that shitty ripoff when windjammers exists

Could Dragon's Dogma be described as a "modern" take on Dragon Quest 3?

>>376258849
There's a secret boss in the Everfall, but it's really just a reskinned Grigori. And if you're playing online it's really not worth fighting because it has literally millions of health points shared across everybody playing that day, so you can only actually kill it if you happen to be fighting it at the right time. It's only really notable for being the source of the best gear in the base game, which was made irrelevant by the expansion.

Also yeah, the expansion is balanced with the expectation that you play on NG+

>>376258790
>Shadow of the Colossus

no need to bring a platformer into an action rpg discussion m8

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>>376259113
Oh I know what you mean now, Ur-Dragon. I was in his arena but it was insane and I didn't bother with him later.

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>>376259171
Part 2

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>>376259248
Part 3

>>376259334
Karma for bringing memey pawns honestly.

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>>376258572
>The action elements are way more important to me so I'd rather play Dragon's Dogma
I'll never understand why people pretend that DD has any mechanical depth to the combat

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>>376259428

>>376259460
Compared to a legit action game? It doesn't. Compared to any other action rpg I can think of? I'd say it does.

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>>376259428

>>376252675
You don't know how much I agree with you Op. It's the ultimate expression of video games.

>>376259440
not the pic where she's surrounded by wonderfully rendered food.

>>376252675
uh, no, like full of no. Action RPG are trash, We need to go back to standard rpg.

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>my soul when no DD2

>>376252675
I really want to play a good ARPG, preferably one with some kind of online gameplay, like Diablo or Dark Souls.
I feel like there aren't that many good ones that I haven't played right now.

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>>376259837

>>376259460
Its shallow in terms movesets and stuff but there is a lot of neat background depth never even put into other games like the weight/height system. The fact a fatguy is the best at holding down enemies and lolis get thrown around whenever even the tiniest enemy flaps its wings is really neat even if it doesn't alter how you play that much.

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>make an open world game
>set it in medieval era
>only way to travel from places to places efficiently is through shitty teleports aka bunch of loadscreens

>>376259880
Or just drop the rpg and get some more good action games.

>>376260074
no, fuck action games. they need to DIE

>>376260029
Something like horses would've been better considering the world is that big.
Still, portcrystals and ferrystones aren't that bad at all.

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Post arisens

Pic related, it's my loli bitch getting slandered by Leanore

>>376252675
The entire genre is oversaturated with shit, a few good games won't change that.

>>376260142
I love rpgs, but dmc3 > bg2. Not sure why you want them to die though, they're generally very different audiences.

>>376260260
>Not sure why you want them to die though, they're generally very different audiences
Autistic people cannot stand the idea of something they don't like existing.

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>>376260237
I'm not a very creative person

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>>376260237
>mfw

hey i got a question im lvl 172 but it seems like enemys do a lot more damage to me now than when i was lower level, like one hit would kill like a third of my health but it wasnt like that when i was lower lvl, do enemys lvl as you lvl?

>>376260405
>do enemys lvl as you lvl

No. Are you sure you're not on hard mode or something?

>>376260365
The lightning in that scene makes me wish we had got a weather system

>>376252675
>Can we all agree that in this world of opinions only one opinion matters?
You don't know how this works, do you?

>>376260541
no im on normal, maybe i didnt level my character right or some shit

>>376259808
>tfw pawns don't have bones

>>376260029
>efficiently

If you want to go places efficiently and not see what the world has to offer then it shouldn't have been open world to begin with

>>376252675
Man, I still hope this game gets a sequel. Considering how fantastic the experience was with how little content they managed to put in, shit could only get better in a second game.

Dark Arisen is the best damn DLC I've ever played.

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>>376259440
>>376259996
Dat Ambrosial Meat

>>376257861
fucking pussy

that's what you get for not being a cool guy with a big sword

>>376255443
the critique is ~12min and its some good points
TLDW:
damage system is kinda broken, requiring grinding with sudden leaps in power
you can pause game at any time and heal to full with cheap consumables
you can farm rez stones so you can never die

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>>376252675
It is.

>>376262863
100% agree with those
probably my biggest complaints actually
That guy is usually spot on

>>376252675
Balancing was an issue

anyone playing Dragons Dogma Online?

Is it playable with the english translation?

Why doesn't every RPG let me layer cloths. The clothing/armor system is one the the best. Is there anyone on the planet that doesn't like playing dress up? Yet every Bethesda waters it down more, I really don't know what retard on their team is pushing this bullshit.

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>>376266303
It's been a while since I've played, but it was fairly straightforward with the English translations. It's mainly for items and quest progress, story dialogue was mostly untranslated aside from the intro bits. There's also rare situations where items/quest progress might be untranslated, but they do a pretty good job keeping translations up to date I think.

>>376267165
Is it playable at all with other people?
Asking because of the ping and languaje.

>>376252852
Dragon's Dogma 2 FUCKING WHEN


FUCKING WHEN

>>376267165
thanks. I'll try it out.

been meaning to try out another mmo after all these years but I hate how mmos play usually. this is basically just DD Online though.

how would I do with a 15mbps connection? I assume I'd have to connect to Japans servers.

>>376259171
>can eat consumables while inside mimic
>>376259248
>walks right into that
>>376259334
>whatever

overall nice panic mode we see here

>>376267596

Hopefully E3.
Probably never. ;_;

>>376256564
Yes

>>376259460
Action elements doesn't equal mechanical depth. I'd argue something could be mechanically deep and unfun.

>>376267541
>>376267825
It's not too terrible in terms of ping, surprisingly. At the worst during something like Grand Missions (8 player weekend missions), some people might look like they're going all over the place when running to an objective, but I never found it to affect combat too much. Also if you're wondering about VPNs and all that, there's a workaround so you only need one for when you log into your character. Afterwards you can just turn off the VPN and play direct.

As for language barriers, it's obviously going help if you know Japanese. Fortunately there's basic text messages you can use to communicate otherwise, the most useful ones being translated via the English patch. Other than that, you can always try to find the remnants of the English DDO community. I wasn't too fond of some of them, but they might help.

Also don't forget about pawns either. If you ever want to run solo, you can always bring pawns along to fight. You get multiple pawns as you progress and can recruit other players' pawns as well.

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>>376256564
WIND?

>>376268985
thanks dude. I'll try this out.

>>376270003
Prepare for massive disappointment

>>376270104
why?

>>376259091
its superior in every way, stop pretending youve played either.

test
Also, I dunno about that. But Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen might be the greatest Action RPG out there.

>>376268990
It's pushing me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WeYkWUpccs

Or at least it was, until it was replaced with some generic opening theme.

>>376258623
your pawn looks like E.T nigga

>>376270358
There aren't many good ones right now.
I wish there were.

>>376270389
Kinda glad honestly. Not a fan of engrish.

>>376258480
Please play the expansion, man.
It's great content, very focused on combat and dungoen crawling, do yourself a favor and get on it!

Is Dark Arisen worth 30 bucks off of steam guys? Never played anything related to dragon's dogma before.

>>376253958
i honestly would be happy with just the pc port

>>376271401
Yes.

>>376271401
You can probably wait and get it cheaper, but yes, it's worth at least trying out.

>>376271235

I actually enjoyed the game more when it was more open world and hated post-game and BBI.

>>376271401

It will probably drop to $12 soon if you can wait.

>>376271401
was 11 $ last sale you could wait for that price.

>>376271639
BBI has like some of the best DLC content in existance.

Any action RPGs that have come close to the actual exploration feeling of darks souls 1?

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>>376270273
Not him, but DDO is a bit simpler than DD. You can only have 4 skills instead of 6, big monster fights usually come down to you having to climb on them and hump them into submission (thanks to the enrage mechanic), and the MMO grind is real, especially when you start reaching later content. That being said, if you can deal with all that, you might enjoy it. I had fun through the story, then fell off once I ran out of main quests due to playing just before Season 2 took off. The Season 2 content was one hell of a brick wall for me. Corruption is a bitch to deal with alone, and my weapons were shitty.

>>376271732

It was a copy/paste dungeon like Everfall and I'd rather play a Souls game if I wanted a tight quarters, linear dungeon.

>>376272085
but souls has boring combat and loot

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>>376252675
Action RPG is without a doubt the most patrician genre there is. It merges the fast-paced thrilling gameplay of Action games with the immersive worlds and story of Role playing games. You can't even debate this.

Cuhrazy comes in a close second.

Third is reserved for Third-Person Shooters and/or Fighting games.

>>376254115
Please be true.

>>376272534
Arena FPS or similar > Third-Person Shooters
2bh

>>376254664
I LOVE fighting demon monsters in action games. I wish i could do it more often.

>>376272534
Yeah and are buggy and imprecise to boot, I love the western style of imprecision and emphasis on story, truly a great genre

>>376271839
The Elder Scrolls series.

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>>376272632
>Arena FPS

NIGGA WAT CHOO DOIN?!?

Bunny hopping around shooting anything on sight can't be patrician no matter what. Examples like Vanquish, Resident Evil, Gears of War are fully fledged games that have the story, music, characters, art, to back the gameplay up.

>>376272751
the series where you can pause the entire game to heal? I would consider any game with that mechanic to disqualify itself from the "action" aspect

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>>376258480
Yes

>>376273031
You almost had really good taste.

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>>376254115
>>376272624

As much as I love Dragon's Dogma we're gonna have to wait a little longer. This is Devil May Cry time now. It's been way too long.

Any new or upcoming ARPGs worth playing?
I kinda need it.

>>376272624
That would make me a happy guy. I'm replaying the first because of the threads we've been having these past few days and it's a blast. I liked playing assassin, but I keep going back to ranger. The absolutely huge bows they get just can't be beat

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>>376267596
>can play the mmo
>but need to dick around with network and VPN every time it starts up
I just want to play the Goldbender class

>>376273349
Code Vein is the only upcoming ARPG that I'm hyped for.

>>376273845
>Code Vein
looks like weeb trash.

>people hate BoTW but LOOOVE DD
I don't understand, how about that snake boss that vanished after dying? That made no sense

>>376258278
Depends what you mean by "good".

In my opinion, KH1 and 2 handle stats really well. Stats in those game actually matter and allow you to make different builds, but the combat is still skill based at it's core.

>>376273031
gears the best.

>>376274607
What are you even talking about? Stop getting mad that we're not talking about your game

>>376274698
This. Fuck off Nintendo shill.

>>376276010
drake a best

>>376256742
It's a shitty game for autists, girls and faggots.

Would it ever be possible to mod in more content like regions, dungeons, quests, armor/weapons etc for DD's PC port?

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>>376272908

>>376254548

A comfy and pleasant thread instantly ruined by this asswad.

>>376256431

You're wrong.

>>376278971
Why would anyone reply to that.

>>376252675

Story, even in an RPG, is still not as important as the gameplay. I love DD because it's a game first, not an attempt at literature/cinema.

>>376278585
nope. only texture swaps and .dll modifications. nothing fancy

>>376273073
you can mod that out