>At this point, it is indisputable that the PS4 has the best

lol no. Both Wii U and 3DS outpaced them, and Switch is looking to dominate it outright.

>>376251138
Yes.

>>376251205
Look at the delusion in this Nintenbro.

>>376251205
>Wii U

Wasn't that the console that flopped so hard Nintendo had to abandon it?

At this point yes but only because the competition was pissing its pants. Both other consoles were a flop commercially, consumers and developers just chose the one option not going belly up. This will change with 2018 though were the Switch is almost guaranteed to dominate. Scorpio won't be much more than a branded pre-built and the PS4 is out of its cycle.

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>>376251138
>PS4 has the best lineup
What Lineup?

The Wii U, even in death, still has more and better exclusives than the PS4.

The PS4's value is being able to play multiplats in addition to the exclusives. The Wii U has jack shit in terms of multiplats, but if you have a PC, you'd just play multiplats on that anyway.

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>>376251138
No

>>376251898
Yeah, I got rid of all my physical games too after I realized that it installs the entire game to the hard drive anyway.

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>>376251898
> only exclusives matter
>only the games that interest me deeply matter

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...Made the Switch to PS4 last year and haven't looked back ...

No. During the PS2 days we saw entire new genres and playstyles being defined. This generation is nothing but rehashes. Not a single original game. At least they tried on PS3.

>>376251898
>third party games dont matter on consoles if it isnt nintendo
what did he mean by this

Sony is back.

>>376251138
The only good games on the PS4 are Yakuza 0 and Bloodborne. P5 is on PS3. Yakuza 0's PS3 port is unplayable so it doesn't count :^)

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>>376251138
>Exclusives

Fuck off cunt, you make the entire industry worse

>>376252418
Why do you have three copies of Black Ops 2, two of which on the Wii U?

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>>376251138
>Do you agree with this statement?
It's entirely subjective because PS4 and Wii U has about the same amount of good exclusives. PS4 still gets releases, though.

>>376252958
pcbro mad that his $2000 investment can't play games that a system 10% of its price can

>>376252418
If you're going to talk about the PS4 *specifically* having a good lineup, then yea, only exclusives count.
Frankly, gen 8 as a whole has been pretty mediocre so far, there are, what, 40 retail games worth playing?
If that?

>>376252958
There's nothing wrong with exclusives.

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>>376251138

I can kinda agree with this statement

I don't really shitpost in console war or console superiority stuff but sometimes when people say 'oh ps4 only has bloodborne...what exclusives' I can't help but laugh because of the mentioned practice of ms cancelling what exclusives they could have had

My response will always be: Instead of continuing this insecure meme of 'ps4 only has bloodborne' why don't you just come out and say 'I dont like the games it has' or why dont you go and voice your concerns to phil about more games

I don't really have anything negative to say about nintendo, they get criticized enough for using low-end hardware but their sales are almost always high

>>376253120
how is PS4 Valkyria different from the PC version?

>>376251138
Yes, yes I do

Sony will always be on top, Playstation is just too ubiquitous. Nintendo sucks and Xbox is for neanderthals

>>376252418
Not pirating multiplat games is a waste of money. The only reason to buy is to get access to exclusive titles. And even then there's CEMU.

Yes. But i can still respect other peoples opinion and that they might not share mine.

I think its good, and we're fortunate to have 3 major consoles instead of one.

>>376253120
Why not put Yakuza in the PS3 category you dumb nigger? The JoJo EoH port isn't even available in the west.

>>376253397
The hatching the game uses for shading, the map, contrast and textures all look very very slightly better.
http://www.dualshockers.com/valkyria-chronicles-remastered-ps4-vs-pc-screenshot-comparison-small-differences-for-a-beautiful-classic/

>>376253759
Oops.

>>376251138
It isn't disputable that the PS4 is the most successful console of this generation.

That isn't really a good thing because it sets the bar very low for next gen.

>>376253928
It's not like Nintendo or MS are doing their best to raise the bar

>>376254002
Unfortunately

>>376253813
Interesting, thanks. It does look better.

>>376254002
I'd bet good money that the next console gen won't get past 4k at 60fps, and even the generation after that will be 8k at 30fps at best.

>>376251710
Doesnt change the fact it had much more games.


The ps4 has bloodborne and nioh and thats it

>>376251138

From Software has a 3 games deal with Sony for the PS4, so far we have gotten 1 game:

Bloodborne.

They will make Bloodborne 2 and Bloodborne 3.

Insomniac has a deal to create a Spider-Man trilogy.

Spider-Man 1
Spider-Man 2
Spider-Man 3

ONLY ON PLAYSTATION.

GOD OF WAR.

ONLY ON PLAYSTATION.

PS4 is the only relevant console.

PC+PS4 = must own platforms.

>>376251205
>Wii U outpaced PS4
PS4's first year of sales was more than the Wii U's lifetime sales.

There's no Ape Escape 4

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>>376254417

>3 Spiderman games

damn does that mean we won't see any new ratchet and chank games for a number of years or is a new group working on the spiderman game lol

>he just likes r & c games

>>376254417
>Insomniac has a deal to create a Spider-Man trilogy.
Fugg, I want neverending Ratchet & Clank sequels. They shouldn't be occupied with capeshit.

>>376254282
>What is Tales of Berseria
>What is TLOU Remaster
>What is FF XV
>What is GTA V
>What is every fucking sports game on this console
Those are only a few of the good games for PS4
End your life

>>376251138
The only Xbone exclusive I can even think I'd be interested in playing would be Rare Replay specifically for the N64 games, which isn't really an exclusive

>>376252013
>The Wii U, even in death, still has more and better exclusives than the PS4.
You probably think the Zelda remasters and Hyrule Warriors count for Wii U but don't count multiplats and remasters on PS4

>>376254734
All on pc, xbox or ps3.

Try again

>>376254734
>ff15 and sports games good
Nope
Tales is on pc and so is gta 5

And dont come at me with last gen ports you pleb

>>376251138
Isn't total number of games more important than number of exclusive games?

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>>376253221
I don't understand why only exclusives matter. Not everyone cares about pc gaming or wants to be a idort. Me personally I'm good with pro and boost works like a charm.

>>376255292
Multiplats aren't a "PS4 lineup," they're a "PC, XB1, and PS4 lineup" (and sometimes WiiU, PS3, 360, and Switch).
This is a pretty basic concept, don't know why it's so hard for you to understand.
Are you that nigger that spent 2000+ hours in Black Ops 2 on WiiU, because that'd explain it.

>>376254734
>What is [multiplat]
???
At least mention actual exclusives like The Last Guardian or Uncharted 4 or something.

>>376254656
>>376254668

They have the "hugest team" they have ever had working on Spider-Man, they are fully backed by Marvel and Sony and both are involved in the games design, from story to gameplay.

It is going to be good, but it will come out in 2018.

>>376254742
>Zelda remasters
No.
>Hyrule Warriors
Well, it was ported after the fact. I'd say it counts. If there was a game that launched on PS4 first, then launched on Vita after the fact, then you'd possibly have a case.

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>>376254282
Compare >>376253120 to pic related.
What's "much more"?

I think PS4 is better than PS2 but not PS1 yet

>>376254417
I think the deal is indefinite as long as the games are a critical/commercial success

This is Sony's own Spider-Man universe

>>376256568
>This is Sony's own Spider-Man universe
Honestly, after their last few fuckups, I'm not expecting much.
Say what you want about their vidya, but Sony's movie division is fucking cancer, and god knows they're gonna try and pull some shit with said division with the Spiderman games.

>>376253271
To some extent this.
Personally I chose Xbone because I didn't liked exclusives from PS4. I don't like Souls, cinematic games and weeb stuff that much. Still, PS4 holds the title of king of the exclusives.
It all just depends if you like them or not.
I doubt Phil will deliver any meaningfull SP games for us. But Sea of Thieves is a great promise (played alpha whenever schedule allowed me to and had tons of fun) while Phantom Dust looks like my personal GOTY.

Still if anyone likes PS4 games - just shut up and buy it.

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>>376255532
yeh i'm that guy that spent 1200 hours on blacks ops 2. I don't care if a game is a multiplat or a exclusive. Your probably emphasizing the word port as a negative thing. Multi-plats are a part of the ps4 line up. There games just like how exclusives are games. Just because a game is an exclusive doesn't make it magically better than any other game on the system that is a multiplat. I don't hold any high value on exclusive games just because there exclusives. I only hold value on games that i liked.

>>376257254
>Multi-plats are a part of the ps4 line up.
Multiplats are a part of every platform they're on's lineup, that's kind of the point of a multiplat.
I don't care whether or not you personally liked a game, that's irrelevant, but the PS4 lineup colloquially refers to PS4 exclusives, because multiplats aren't part of a specific console/platforms lineup, and therefore cannot be attributed to said console in a context of X console having a better lineup than Y console.

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>>376251205
>when a Nintendildo shows up

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>>376257092
most ps4 and xbox owners don't even care about exclusives or whether or not a game is an exclusive or a multiplat.
.

>>376251138
The competition is the wii u (dead), switch (newborn) and xbone (living joke).

It would honestly surprise me if it wasn't the best one around at this point. It would have to suck balls.

>>376252124
lol all of those games are multiplatform.

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>>376253120
>using metacritic as a guideline for anything

>>376258151
Name a single worthwhile exclusive that isn't on that list.

>>376257884
>most ps4 and xbox owners don't even care about exclusives
Nigger you're on /v/, the people here aren't all your typical console owners who buy up the latest AAA or licensed schlock.
Not everyone is a lowest-common denominator schlep like you.

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>>376255680
not everyone gives a shit if a game is an exclusive or a multi plat. A game being an "exculsive" doesn't suddenly make a game good or superior to multiplats or indies.

>>376258246
But you're bringing up multiplats in response to someone talking about exclusives.
Am I being baited?

>>376257216
>b-b-b-but sony
I can do it too you double nigger

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>>376258227
and not a single wothwhile thing was done by using metacritic to categorize games.

>>376258567
Good examples, pal.

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>>376251138
>Meanwhile, the PS4 is channeling the glory days of the PS2
Channeling the first 2 months of the PS2, maybe. The PS4 is shit in comparison. The PS2 had tons of games.

>>376252418
Exclusives are the sole reason people buy consoles besides the fact that their tech illiterate.

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>>376251138
Nintendo already has more upcoming exclusives.
>Xenoblade Chronicles 2
>Fire Emblem Warriors

Remember this is just year 1. Sony had jack shit in it's first year.

>>376260352
False.

>>376251138
>Meanwhile, the PS4 is channeling the glory days of the PS2, with exclusives from first parties and third parties, Japan and the West, and across all major genres conceivable.

You are going to have to explain this one because I don't see it at all.

>>376251138
I've been tempted to get a ps4 for a while now, but all I really want to play on it is Bloodborne and KH3. Doesn't seem worth it unless they get more exclusives soon.

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>and all the top 10 games are multiplats except Uncharted, same goes for Halo on Xbox

WOAH

>>376261405
It's worth it.

>>376252460
I didnt know being a PS4 cuck made you a nigger.

>>376257661
I don't think it's quite that simple because it's not like a game is either on just PS4, or on everything and PS4.
There's PC-PS4-Xbone multiplats, Xbone-PS4 multiplats, PS3-PS4 multiplats, PC-PS4 multiplats and PS4-Vita multiplats.

>costs of triple AAA game production has gotten so absurd no one is willing to take risks on new IP

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>>376251898
>le epic Bloodborne is the only game meme!!1!! xD

>>376262864
>movies
>weebshit
Wooow

>>376262947
>doesn't play weebshit
What do you even play then? Horizon? Overwatch? Andromeda?

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>>376262947
(You)

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>>376262864
>Dead or alive
>Vocaloid
>fucking Final Fantasy XV

>>376262864
half of them games aren't even out yet retard

>>376262864
How's Tales of Berseria?

>>376253153
PC has more, better looking, exclusives thant he PS4.

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Even in death Wii U still has better exclusives than PS4 and Xbox One

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>>376263303

Its easy to link this WHEN NO ONE CAN MAKE ONE FOR XBOX BECAUSE IT HAS NO GAMES

lol dumbass

>>376263214
Just because I like the format of a website doesn't mean that I can't shit on generic weebshit.

>>376263063
Overwatch is garbage with a garbage fanbase. Horizon is irrelevant due to Zelda, won't be remembered. Andromeda is SJW cancer with ugly characters and a mentally retarded main character. Yet I'd play every one of those over weebshit.

>>376263829
That's the entire Wii U library?

Sad!

>>376251138
No. What sonybro wrote this statement?
I own both PS4 and Wii U, and its pretty embarrassing that my Wii U still has a better library. At least the PS4 is finally getting games like Persona 5 and Yakuza 0, but the rest of this console's lifespan has been pure garbage and this is probably my most regretted console purchase ever.

>>376251138
Considering the xbox has like 2 exclusives that's not saying much.

A turd floating in champagne is still a turd.

>>376264679
Still more games worth playing than the other consoles

>>376263829
>remasters, shit like Captain Toad, Yoshi's Wooly World, and Devils Third, and non-exclusive Zelda

Pretty pitiful tbqh m8.

>>376263829
>not owning color splash
>not owning pikmin 3
>not owning captain toad
>not owning zombiu
>not owning lego city undercover
why are you missing out on some of the best wii u games, anon?

>>376252418

3 CoDs

Rare ports. Someone knows what's up.

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>buy PS4 recently
>week later HDMI port on my tv stops working
>can't play PS4 anymore
>can still play Wii U because component cables

Do those HDMI to component converters work? I bought one and it still hasn't come in. I have an older tv and fixing the HDMI port is surprisingly expensive.

>>376265031
Captain Toad and Woolly World are good games.
And there's nothing wrong with remasters if they improve the game, like the MGS collection or KH 1.5 + 2.5
>>376265074
I do own pikmin 3 and captain toad, I pirated color splash and absolutely hated it, I pirated ZombiU and Lego city as well and they're alright from what I've played so far.

>>376264914
Lol no

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>>376265031
Post your PS4 library. If it is smaller and still includes remasters and shit like Until Dawn or Uncharted 4 or non-exclusive Persona 5 or garbage third parties, I'm beating your ass.

>>376265245
Yes.
PS4 has Persona 5, Nioh, Bloodborne, Yakuza 0, Gravity Rush 2, and some games that are on Vita and PS3 like Odin Sphere and Digimon.
Xbox has what, Halo 5, Gears and Forza?
Even added together they can't match Wii U's games.

>>376251205
Nice bait, faggot.

Hit the nail on the head.

How can xcucks ever recover?

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>>376251205

Uhm, no sweetie :^)

>>376265518
Man euros really like the PlayStation.

>>376265518

>Switch can't even beat a 4 year old console at launch

FLOP
L
O
P

>>376265518
Nice.

>>376265615
There's a reason most Sonyfags on /v/ type in broken English.

>>376265518
>11th March 2017

I remember when the PS3 came out some guy got so mad he made a whole website where he used phrases like $ony and nintardos and things like that. man. what a guy.

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>>376266751

How's the 18th?

>>376266845
why the fuck does ps4 sell so well in eur-
oh i forgot about casual shit like fifa and cod

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>>376266845
>>376265518

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>>376266982

Oh, finally, the newly released console outsold the 4 year old console in 2 out of the 4 weeks it released

>PS3 is out selling the Wii U

You literally CAN'T stop Sony.

>Xbone is non viable
>Ps4 is just okay
>Nintendo has no multiplats

Its an easy choice really. You either go PC or PS4 pending your knowledge of technology, Then maybe a Switch as a secondary

>>376265518
>>376266845
>>376266982
>Sales consistently increase every week
>Nintendo outright states that there are supply constraints
Oh god, is it Wii all over again?

>>376266982
>>376266845
>>376265518

How do we stop Sony, lads?

>>376267304
make juice

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>>376267301

>underperforming a 4 year old console in its launch month

If the Switch turns out to be a new Wii, then the PS4 is confirmed to double the PS2s sales.

>>376258141
Were you born in a lead paint factory?

>>376254589
Why do you automatically defer to console sales when we are clearly talking software sales

>>376267913
aluminum siding actually

>>376264485
>playing weebshit like Zelda

>>376265518
>Europe
So basically FIFA? Irrelevant.

>>376251138
Eh, sure, it might be the best but there are still like only 2 or 3 games which actually look interesting to me. The Gravity Rush titles look interesting, P5 too but I have a PS3 for that. And then Gravity Rush 2 is 30FPS, so even if the game is great I know I won't enjoy the stuttery FPS and it would ruin it for me to some degree.

Before PS4 Pro came out I was thinking of getting it, but there just don't seem to be that many games which I care about. Probably won't get one for a while yet.

>>376264485
hi /r/eddit