So the ARMS edition of EDGE magazine came out yesterday, and

>>376224110
The lack of being able to move in one direction and punch in the other sounds interesting.

I mean technically it mimics the actual physics of Punching in Boxing.

>>376224110
Well, we knew anybody that wasn't going to use the motion controls was going to be at a disadvantage like Splatoon.

>>376225243
Still wish that they wouldn't have put fucking block on the stick click. It's a shame that there's no pro-controller specific controls since the current one is probably made for the shitty single joycon

>>376225243
We didn't, but people assumed that yes. It doesn't really matter to me though. If the controls are good and accurate its fine. People hated motion controls for the Wii, but the technology was a lot worse back then. If the game does everything I tell it to, like in Splatoon, then its perfectly fine.

>>376225687
>People hated motion controls

No, the gaming media spent years trying to downplay how fun they were in order to promote PS360 title. People in general really loved them.

But yes, Switch is really taking motion controls to the next generation and fine tuning them to replace traditional button presses.

I'll probably still end up using motion controls, assuming they aren't horrible.

Still using button controls. Fuck motion controls.

>>376224110
Are there any scans uploaded anywhere?

If the Wii can make something as fast paced and reaction based as Punch-Out work with motion controls I'm sure ARMS will be fine with 10 years of technology advancements

>>376225965
Have fun losing all your matches in Splatoon 2.

And in Arms.

And in the inevitable Star Fox Zero sequel.

All because you can't get with the times, grandpa.

>>376226020
You can buy a digital edition of the magazine so I'm sure scans should be coming asap

>>376226082
Man, I got destroyed using Punch-Out Wii's motion controls. I think I got up to Aran Ryan before switching over to traditional.

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>>376226212
>He didn't use waggle to beat DK

I guess that's cool
I'm still waiting for a monhun before I plunge into buying the console though.

>>376226312
what's going on here?

>>376224110
This is just for using a single joystick, though.

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>>376226085
>inevitable star fox zero sequel

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>>376226491
Springman asking when will manlets will learn

>tfw handheld mode
I'm fucked right?

>>376226571
Miyamoto confirmed it's happening in like December.

Stay mad.

>>376226713
Jesus fucking Christ

>>376224110
Its boxing

>>376226713
>that face
Wew.

>>376225243
People who used gyro controls in Splatoon had a huge advantage over everyone else, what the fuck are you talking about? It literally gave them precision aiming closer to what keyboard+mouse controls would have. Arms is a wholly different situation.

>>376226713
DAMN who's this cutie

>>376226085
>And in the inevitable Star Fox Zero sequel.

Can't lose what i'm not playing it.

>>376226997
>>376227094
>tfw come onto /v/ every day because I know that there's always new ARMS fanart being made by the truckload

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>stick click to block
>not just a trigger

>>376224110
>Since the left stick controls the angle of your punches, you can't move in one direction and punch in the other. You can't strike at a different angle with your other hand until the first punch is fully extended, either

I don't get it
Doesn't the Switch controller have two sticks?

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game looks fun as fuck
will get
Min Min best girl

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>>376227151
someone's aunt dressed as mechanica

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Is this a GioGio reference?

>>376226785
Miyamoto didn't confirm shit

>>376225864
>No, the gaming media spent years trying to downplay how fun they were in order to promote PS360 title. People in general really loved them.
Jesus fucking Christ Nutendofags are cancer.

I miss the comfy wiiu and 3ds threads of 2011-2014 /v/

>>376227430
i really like that one

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>>376224110
>You click in the left stick to guard
>the left stick controls the angle of your punches
>you can't move in one direction and punch in the other
>You can't strike at a different angle with your other hand until the first punch is fully extended
thank god the motion controls sound good because they absolutely fucked this up

Is this game the next splatoon of fighting games?

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>>376227671
save it friend, it's all yours

>>376227732
i hope so

>>376225243
Did you turn off gyro immediately or something? After playing Splatoon I wanted every console shooter to have that control option.

>>376227721
You can thank the single joycon for that. It could've been so easy to just use the right stick to aim punches, or at least give your right ARM free movement while the left was tied to the left stick

>>376227732
>not enough kids
>not enough character customization

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>Motion controls are optional guys, we swear
>Button controls are literally unworkable/massively gimped compared to motion control scheme.
Guess you can't really count a waggle game as a good exclusive anymore, sorry to hear Switchfaggots.

Nutendo and this shitty console need to burn

>>376226785
Source: your gaping semen-covered asshole

>>376227991
>being this jelly
how's that PSVR doing, guy?

These automated matches were also essential because playing Arms stood up, Joy-Cons in hand, with motion controls is hardly a relaxing experience. We depart out six-hour session exhausted, and apologetic for leaving a Nintendo demo area smelling like a locker room. The more sedentarily inclined - or those unable to play standing up because they've taken their Switch on public transport, say - can make use of less physically intensive control options afforded by Nintendo's multifaceted new hardware. Slot the Joy-Cons into a grip peripheral, hand over one of the controllers to a friend, or pick up a Pro Controller, and Arms starts to feel a little more familiar. Punches can be thrown using the triggers, or two of the face buttons - jump and dash are mapped on to the other two. You click the left stick to guard. Everything you need is here, and it works - but something's missing. Since the left stick controls the angle of your punches, you can't move in one direction and punch in the other. You can't strike at a different angle with your other hand until the first punch is fully extended, either.

Robbed of the physicality of its motion-control inputs, Arms isn't quite the same. No doubt these alternative control options have been added to ensure the game is playable in every situation in which you can use a Switch. Yet it also feels like a thumb of the nose, however unintentional, to players who spent the Wii generation complaining they'd have preferred to have played Motion-Controlled Game X sat on their backsides with sticks and buttons. On-foot motion controls aren't the only way to play Arms, but for our money, they're far and away the best. Producer Yabuki, as you'd expect, agrees."

From the magazine

>>376228084
Lifelong Nintendo faggot actually

Kimishima's Nintendo is not one worth supporting.

>>376226947
>>376227863
Are you retarded? Is English too hard for you?

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>>376224110
>>376227721
here's how controller controls SHOULD work

>tilt controller to move
>L to dash
>R to jump
>A/B/X/Y are all guard
>all of these can be remapped among each other
>ZL/ZR to punch
>left stick controls left ARM angle and vice-versa (both X and Y axes can be independently inverted in options)

>>376227873
they shouldn't support that kind of control scheme at all in ARMS, or at the very least make it a third controller scheme that reminds the players that it's explicitly gimped due to lack of buttons

>>376228264
>>376228382
>>376228476
i fucking Hate people who like improve when they practice

>>376228264
holy fat hips

>>376227669

He's not wrong. The main downside of motion controls is that they don't work for every genre. The ones they do work for though, they work well and people enjoy them.

Also, the motion control stigma doesn't exist in the Nintendo fanbase. Motion controls either work well or they don't and need to be fixed or discarded.

>>376228476
This guy needs to do mechanica porn

>>376228656
Gyro is not motion controls, Nintendo fans are OK with Gyro. Stop trying to normalize waggle, faggot.

You can't have long gaming sessions with ARMS style motion controls you gigantic cocksucker.

>>376228872
>You can't have long gaming sessions with ARMS style motion controls you gigantic cocksucker. So it's obviously going to impede the game*
Forgot my last sentence

>>376228872
>You can't have long gaming sessions with ARMS style motion controls

Worked for Punch Out

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>>left stick to guard

>>376227792
Thanks. Saved.

There's literally nothing wrong with motion controls

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>boxing fetish
>someone sooner or later is gonna draw ribbon girl in a fight

>>376229394
>sooner or later
20min after reveal

I don't get it.

Why not use the left stick to move and the right stick to aim the punches?

I like Arms but this is fucking retarded.

>>376229021
Punchout didn't have online multiplayer I desperately hope I'm correct in assuming that ARMS at least has that., it was a quick match against friends game, and featured classic controls that worked well.

If you wanted to just spend the day playing ARMS multiplayer online you couldn't because eventually you'd tire and want a shower, and switching to the controller isn't an option because you'd be gimping yourself.

Just another game in the garbage pile that is Nutendo though, really.

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>>376229394
ryona, anon?

>>376229504
This is for a singe joycon, not the pro-controller

>>376229519
>I desperately hope I'm correct in assuming that ARMS at least has that

So you didn't even watch the reveal trailer?

>>376229519
>If you wanted to just spend the day playing ARMS multiplayer online you couldn't because eventually you'd tire and want a shower

Jesus Christ how fat are you?

>>376229591
prove it

>>376226491
Springman is saying "hi everyone", while minmin wants this weirdo to leave, and ninjara has no face

>>376229394
>Boxing fetish

You mean ryona, right? Or do you mean you seriously get hard from watching two people boxing?

>>376229794
Not fat but not a fucking boxer either so punching the air for several hours straight is naturally going to wear me down a bit, like 99% of the people who buy this game.

>>376229990
you just have to tilt it, the punches are just for show in the trailer you donut

>>376229678
That was months ago anon and I was more focused on how blatantly it was attempting capitalizing on Splatoons success

>>376229990
>so punching the air for several hours

You slightly move your hands to punch. If you're actually throwing punches you might be retarded

>>376229990
You literally just rotate your wrist slightly. No big exaggerated movements, no arm movement at all.

>>376230061
>That was months ago anon and I was more focused on how I'd make bait for it's threads

fix'd

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http://www.strawpoll.me/12844118
http://www.strawpoll.me/12844109
http://www.strawpoll.me/12839367

may as well post it

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>>376230039
>>376230074
>>376230190
>you just have to tilt it
Which comes full circle to the same problem the Wii motion control had

Whats the point in making me do them if you aren't even going to make me do it properly? Sitting on the couch and flicking my Wiimote endlessly in TP was not fun, same with every other game with token waggle.

>>376224110
Why would you need to move and curve a punch at the same time? It makes it less accurate. Button controls sound fine.

>>376229591
>Slot the Joy-Cons into a grip peripheral, hand over one of the controllers to a friend, or pick up a Pro Controller, and Arms starts to feel a little more familiar. Punches can be thrown using the triggers, or two of the face buttons - jump and dash are mapped on to the other two. You click the left stick to guard. Everything you need is here, and it works - but something's missing. Since the left stick controls the angle of your punches, you can't move in one direction and punch in the other. You can't strike at a different angle with your other hand until the first punch is fully extended, either.

Looks like regular controller/pro controller to me.

>>376230268
>Sitting on the couch and flicking my Wiimote endlessly in TP was not fun
probably because the wiimote plus was a piece of shit compared to the joycons

>>376230278
because maybe i need to move away from a punch and hit someone who is dodging in another direction.

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>>376230361
If I'm still just flicking my wrist what does more technology in the controller matter for?

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>>376229862

no no i mean boxing

>>376230268
>Which comes full circle to the same problem the 10 year old technology had

Wii controls were fine in Metroid, Punch Out, and Zelda and that was 10 years ago. Things have improved by a metric fuckton

>>376228192
Iwata was the worst thing to happen to Nintendo. Stop shitposting and fuck off, retard.

>>376225864
it's all a conspiracy against Ninty-kun

>>376230604
>Wii controls were fine in Metroid, Punch Out, and Zelda
What metric are we measuring as "fine"? Because Metroid and Zelda I know firsthand do not control fine

>>376230627
i just realized her hair and hat is a noodlebowl

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>>376230837
wow anon. you're slow as shit

>gimping traditional controls on purpose so that you're forced to use waggleshit
Just like Splatoon!

>>376230762
Faggot Wii controls are the only way to play Prime

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>>376230435
precision you disingenuous faggot

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>>376230976
>mfw this post
Purge Nutendofags ffs gookmoot

>>376230892
That just means when you lost to someone using traditional controls it will sting even more.

>>376231024
Precision how exactly? What does the joycon do that a normal controller couldn't accomplish better?

>>376231057
>but muh auto-aim baby lock on
>ree actually playing is too hard!

Maybe Nintendo isn't for you...

>>376230876
she's been out for like a week and this is the first thread i've seen
come the fuck on

>>376231140
>What does the joycon do that a normal controller couldn't accomplish better?

You can shoot your ARMS in different directions while moving. How would a controller do this?

>>376230892
and splatoon works Brilliantly

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>>376231184
she was revealed mid-april

>>376231147
>but muh auto-aim baby lock on
>ree actually playing is too hard!
Literally what did he mean by this

>>376230268
>people complain if its not enough like the real thing
>people complain if its enough like the real thing that they have to put effort into it

>>376231230
Easy, the second control stick control the arms direction. It works amazing for the Pod shooting in Nier Automata and a number of other games.

Not my fault Nintendo won't do that because they want to force compatability with the solo Joycon, the literal worst controller in gaming history.

>>376231409
>the second control stick control the arms direction.

How could a single control stick move two ARMS in two different directions at the same time?

>>376231406
Maybe that means motion control are an inherently flawed and shitty idea?

>>376231263
People only play waggle controls because they went out of their way to fuck with the camera controls when using a stick. Just like how Nintendo is purposely ignoring the fact that their controller has two sticks. And knowing Nintendo, there will be 0 options to change anything.

>>376231409
>the literal worst controller in gaming history.
I see you started with the PS2, then. I wish people like you still counted as underaged.

>Easy, the second control stick control the arms direction
So how will you move right, throw your right left arm with a hard left curve, and your right arm with a very slight right curve, all while jumping?

>>376231472
turning the stick really quickly.

its not hard

>>376231494
Maybe that means people are faggots? I think that's more likely.

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>Because moot sold 4chan to the only lazy Japanese person we have to deal with people disingenuously shilling Wii Boxing 2 on this board.
>mfw

>>376231184
Closer to 3 weeks. Just saying, no stake in your argument.

>>376231264
doesnt fucking matter does it? i have barely seen this game. If you get your jollies bullying people online for the appearance of fucking videogame characters you need to reevaluate your pathetic excuse for an existence. How about fucking kill yourself you fucking asspie! This is literally the first thread on /v/ that hasnt been a fucking "LOL NO GAEMS NINSHITTER" spamfest. So get fucking bent and stop projecting your inadequecies on others by making fun of me for not noticing a semi-subtle detail on a fucking character i've seen like 6 times
oh my fucking god

>>376224110

So it's Nintendo's next party game?

>>376231654
>Hating on Wii Boxing
You just hate fun.

>>376231587
Did you miss
>at the same time
?

And how will you do that while also moving?

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>>376231689
anon please calm down

>>376231654
>Every real discussion thread is a shill thread
Hell yea reddit bros roll out more twitter screencaps, /pol/ bait and ecelebs fuck this games shit

>>376231689
Not him but how did you miss her? There are ARMS threads almost daily and she's spammed relentlessly in them.

They made the traditional controls gimped because they want you to be able to play splitscreen with 1 joycon each. Too bad Nintendo is too incompetent to make game options.

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>>376231804
If you do at the same time its a grab so you're influencing that

Anyway with the motion control in arms you're essentially simulating two sticks in a cockpit. Y'know like Virtual On

So why not use those simulated controls on the actual sticks?

There is literally no reason that they couldn't do just that.

There is nothing in that motion control that can't be translated into an actual controller. If Virtual On managed to do it, they can do it as well.

I like Arms but i really do hope they think hard and well about this retarded control scheme.

>>376232193
Maybe you are the retard for not being able to do it?

>>376232193
>Anyway with the motion control in arms you're essentially simulating two sticks in a cockpit. Y'know like Virtual On
>So why not use those simulated controls on the actual sticks?
Except it isn't like that. You can't tilt, push, and twist a joystick all at once.

Coming from EXVS Forward-Back to guard, having left stick to guard is not that bad.

>>376231494
No, I'm going to go with "maybe because people like you are whiny pieces of shit with no taste."

>>376232368
That's what you have buttons for.

>>376232193
>If you do at the same time its a grab so you're influencing that

You can still launch your ARMS in rapid succession. Their trajectory can be influenced slightly by tilting while they travel, so how would you tilt two ARMS in different directions at the same time?

>>376232472
So you have to use face buttons, shoulder buttons and BOTH sticks all at once? With your 3 thumbs? Dude, just stop. This is getting pathetic.

>>376232556
Triggers to throw punches, sticks to aim them. You don't need anything else. They couldn't even get that right.

>>376232837
How do you move, block, jump, dash, and super then?

>>376232887
Bumpers, face buttons, or stick clicks.

>>376232937
>face buttons
>stick clicks.

thumbs are busy aiming punches. Try again

>>376232937
So move with what? Both sticks are busy with the punches, remember? And what if I also want to dash in this instance?

>>376233050
>he doesn't claw

movement and aim with the two sticks

when you punch you're essentially setting your hand into neutral if you want a straight punch.

Then you turn to either direction depending on where you want to aim.

In fact when you throw a punch in ARMS as long as you're not jumping your character will stop moving for a split second and this is the moment where you can manipulate your punches. It's a commitment system that allows someone to capitilize on your errors. You can't actually move normally during this because the game needs to read where you're trying to aim Thats why everyone jumps and dashes, in the footage, as they allow you to regain some moment and not become a sitting duck.

So l and r to punch, zl to jump, zr to dash, block by turning the two sticks in opposite directions, grab by pressing l & r together, super by pressing two sticks together.

Prove me that this wouldn't work.

what causes the ARMS gene?

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>>376234390
fucking too many lolis

>>376233225
Move by tilting the controller.

>>376234551
Isn't mechanica 15?

>>376230837
>>376231184
>>376231689
>hey everyone, look how much of an idiot I am.
>hey guyys stop calling me an idiot I'm starting to cry

>>376228872
>You can't have long gaming sessions with ARMS style motion controls you gigantic cocksucker.
work out, noodle arms

>>376231409
>worst controller in gaming history
Hahaha
Imagine being THIS underage

For all teh faggots in the thread.

EDGE Non motion control is applied to 1 (ONE) joy con

http://nintendoeverything.com/how-non-motion-controls-work-in-arms-with-a-single-joy-con/

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>>376228872
Sure I can. I had many long online co-op sessions of Zangeki No Reginleiv with a friend.

>>376235135
Theres hope for the regular controller

it's not even like you're swinging your fucking arms around, the motion controls are just short, precise movements not unlike using a joystick

>>376235135
THERES HOPE FOR PRO CONTROLLERS. We can still be top tier bros!

>>376235135
/v/ BTFO

Thread is over, boys. The fact sheets came in. Time to go home.

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>>376235653
b-but

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So what's her gimmick and theme gonna be? Also, will she be best girl?

>>376235887
flowers obviously

>>376235887
flower grappler

>>376235135
>facts come out
>thread dies
man /v/ really iss all shit posting

>>376236457
/v/ used to be able to shitpost around facts

>>376229829
>>376230306
Faggots.

http://nintendoeverything.com/how-non-motion-controls-work-in-arms-with-a-single-joy-con/

>>376224110
My thoughts?
Nobody here really gives a fuck about EDGE magazine

>>376236538
Hard to do against based Ninty

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I can't wait for this game bros

>>376237697
oh god.

>>376237697
>his arm isn't super extended

>>376237697
>his arm isn't stretched out and long

How could you fuck this up? Make it at least twice as long

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>>376237756
>>376237838
I had to make it fit in the gif frame

>>376238060
>on /v/ literally every day
>still miss the gif thread

every fucking year

>>376224110
Just play with 2 of them. Problem solved.

LETS TAKE UP

>>376240409
you fucked it up

>>376227991
>being this buttblasted over a videogame company
Don't like it? Don't buy it.

>>376240409
ARMS

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So you're better off using the Joycons?

>>376242373
no that was just one joycon control scheme.

>>376242373
>Still no mechanica body pillow

>>376230537
My nigga