Why is this allowed?

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DELETE THIS! IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUR GAME TO BE AT THE TOP! I'M WITH HER!

Not all games are made equal, some are just better than others.

>/pol/tards doing anything to shit on actual GOOD games, as usual
You're as transparent as you are stupid. Fuck off.

>>376211703
Nintendo spends their money on reviews instead of hardware development.

Except neither of those games were even close to 100

history

>>376211703
Nintendo brought "empty open world" to a new level

Meanwhile Horizon is probably the closest "blur that shit so you cant see the shit graphics" the west has ever done compared to FFXV

I played both. Horizon was better in my opinion. BotW was great too. But, I preferred Horizon. Am I a Sonyngger?

>Reviews are meaningless!
>Except when it comes to MY game!

This whole BOTW HZD rivalry is fucking stupid.

Nothing will EVER top The Witcher 3: The Wild Hunt as far as open world RPG's go, so why even bother?

>>376212025
Oh fuck now we have a party

>>376211847
But BotW has crossdressing, that makes it a target for /pol/ aswell.
>>376211883
Nintendo doesn't actually pay reviewers, they just choose specific ones they trust. With that said the people who have Starfox Zero a 6/10 are the same people who gave BotW a 10/10.

>>376212025
All 3 games would be better with Souls combat.

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>>376211703

>Non-nintendo game gets perfect reviews
>(((They))) have bought all the 'journalists'
>Nintendo game gets perfect reviews
>Omg, Nintendo does it again!

>>376212115
Man I remember when Horizon first got it's review scores and sonybros were pushing it so hard "hahah /v/ BTFO! Zelda fags are absolutely SEETHING!"
Now that BotW came out and to no-one's surprise, blew it out of the water, they're now going "r-review scores don't matter...".

>>376211703
I love how some Nintendo drone made that pic thinking Zelda was gonna pull call of duty numbers. Only for horizon to to out sell it by 1 million copies

>>376212025
that slavshit trash is supposed to be overrated just because its an aaa game with a high budget and so""realistic"" journos and gaymers easily can rate it

>>376212315
>3.84mil vs 2.6mil
Other way round buddy

>>376212315
>he doesn't know

>>376212025

>literally baby's muh first open world game
>nothing will ever top it

It's the shittiest open world game out there.

Can only use swords.
Shitty dodge roll to win.
Side quests are WoW tier.
EZ win spidey senses.
Vomit inducing UI cluttered with waypoints and objectives.
No weather system.
Linear story.
"Hurrr you can have sex with everyone"
Only one useful elixir.
Stealth is non-existent.
No physics, whatsoever.


Only teenagers like the Witcher because it's their first time seeing tits in a video game.

>>376211818
Can't read that shit

>>376211703
Needs to be updated.

Zelda now has 67 Perfect scores
Horizon still has 12 Perfect scores

>>376212492
This

>>376212025

Thats a really weird way to spell "the elder scrolls: morrowind"

>>376212550
Try clicking it then you dumbfuck.

>>376212492
Yet it's still the most revered recent entry in the genre. Just because you have a hate boner for it doesn't make it objectively bad.

>>376211703
This is a pathetic comparison

talk about punching down to feel good about yourself, drone.

>>376212025
witcher 3 is boring as hell, can't believe this generic shit became #1

>>376212386
2.6 million is a month old number. It's definitely sold more by now

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>Horizon reviews come out
>"holy shit! /v/ is wrong again! confirmed GOTY!"
>just play along and agree with the reviews because I knew BotW was going to beat it's shit in
>BotW reviews come out
>me: "well this game is clearly better than horizon"
>oh? NOW you say reviews matter?
Yeah I know it's a bit unfair because it's anonymous but still have me a good giggle.

>>376211991
Zelda isn't empty at all, with the exception of a few north west areas of hyrule that they didn't flesh out enough

>>376212025
Well it's a good thing that Zelda and Horizon aren't RPGs then

>>376212071
>they just choose specific ones they trust
thats not how it works tard, even if someone dont get an early copy, they can buy the game, review it and they score will be aggregated

>>376212315
Zelda will undoubtably sell throughout the entire switch lifespan

>>376212796
Of course it did, and of course Zelda completely didn't sell in that period as well

>>376211703
every reviewers knows not to fuck with zelda fans.

shit hits the fan hard when u give zelda games less than perfect score.

zelda fans are just that bad to deal with.

>>376212762

>most revered recent entry
>revering shit in the first place

(You)

>>376212315
>Only for horizon to to out sell it by 1 million copies
what bizarro world are you from?

>>376211703
Yeah, I mean, what kind of paid bastard shill you have to be to give fucking Horizon a 10/10? It sickens me.

>>376213098
go cry me a river Nichegamer

>>376211991
you know...what Nintendo realized was, the real world is also sometimes really empty. There isn´t a collectible or some other shit every 5meters.

>>376213117
nah you're right, everyone else is wrong and you're the only right person on the planet my sweet special snowflake

((you))

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>>376211703

>Zelda game outsells original IP

This is news why?

>>376211703
https://youtu.be/AVseQ3RDa6s?t=9m50s

I hate Horizon Zero Shit. And I'm a sonyger.

Had to return that crap. Luckily I got Yakuza. Holy shit Yakuza is fun.

>>376213562
You don't have to say Yakuza is fun, just say ''I'm irrelevant weeb faggot and I eat at least 12 cheeseburgers a day while fapping to traps (no homo)''.

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>"No no this isn't flame bait or flamewar instigation"
>"This is simply just discussion!"

4chan nintendo toddler mods at work

>>376213404
sonybro said hz will be zelda killer though

>>376213404
It didn't outsell Horizon.

>>376212492
>"Hurrr you can have sex with everyone"
>implying that's bad?

The Last of Us has 95 metascore, yet many Nintendo or PC fans call it bad game or movie. I don't get it. Scores count or not?

>>376213764
It's not March anymore pony.

>>376213940
>movie
Movies get scored too anon.

>>376213707
Why else would he be here?

That is kind of a requirement to post here

>>376214001
But TLOU gets scores in gaming only sites.

Zelda will always get good reviews
It literally does not matter how bad it actually is, it will always get good reviews because the overwhelming majority of the Zelda fanbase has crippling autism and will fanboy it no matter what

>>376213764
mario kart 8 deluxe is the best selling game this year so far

zelda is the second best selling game this year so far

i didnt see horizon on the list

>>376211703

Because Zeldafags dropped their shitty game barely a hundred hours in and went online to shill for Cucktendo while the people who bought Zero Dawn are either still playing it or are not cucked enough to shill it online 24/7.

But that is just a Nintenbro thing.

>>376211818
I thought neogaf was nintendogaf.

Why can't you settle on one fucking thing, /v/?

>>376212025
Oblivion is unironically a better game than the Witcher 3 and botw.

>>376214061
Horizon is in top 10 selling games constantly. Really good for new IP.

>>376211703
OMG this is SEXIST!

>>376214059
Or maybe the developers just put the time and effort into QC that means it never dips below decent?

>>376212025
Shoo shoo, go away pcpleb.

>>376214152
/v/ is nintendogaf. Which honestly isn't surprising because/v/ is also the most densely packed place on the Internet with people that have autism.

>>376211818
How dare they have fun with game! They should call is shit and retards/autists other users like I would do!

>Sonybros brag about HZD outselling Zelda
>a game with an install base of 60 million vs a game with an install base of literally 0
>can barely outsell it
This is an accomplishment how?

>>376214301
maybe you should go there instead of here

>>376214175
so we went from
>ITS GONNA BE THE VERY BEST GAMES, ZELDA KILLER!!!! HAHAHAA

to

>Its in the top 10 at least guysz!!!

that what parent tell to the kid that got could not win the race after boasting how fast he was to his friends
>dont worry Timmy. you could not be the best just how you liked, but at least you were not teh worst. good job champ

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>>376211703
now post the total sales of those two you subhuman Nintenbro shitposter.

>>376214321
horizon didn't even outsell zelda though

>>376214061
Then post the list. You have no sources so far. All we know about horizon is that it sold 2.6 million in the first 2 weeks.

>>376214321
>>Sonybros brag about HZD outselling Zelda

Where?

Also

>Sales from 2 systems combined vs 1
>establisged 20 yr old IP vs new one

Horizon sales are really great considering that.

>>376214368
>sales are the only thing that matter!

kys philistine.

>>376214414
Do Zelda fans all lack reading comprehension and basic understanding? Is that why you flock of idiots have to watch so many """"lore""""" videos on YouTube about your games meant for children and preteens?

>>376214350
>baaaw go away

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>>376214494
Calm down Nintendownie.

>>376214357
I didn't went from anything, don't know who are you quoting autism boy but calm down a little.

>>376214476
31 years old, Broski.

>>376214476
>>376214414
I was referring just to the Switch sales.
Even still, the Wii U is hardly a thriving install base.

>>376214579
Do you own stock in Sony or something, or are you so used to instantly reaching for sales numbers to defend them that you don't even realize how weak that argument is?

This thread truly shows the Capulett vs Montague level shitshow /v/ has become

>>376214510
so Horizon sold 5M copies? thats impressive

>>376214152
neogaf is definitely Sonyland, it's ridiculous. Nintendo is both loved and hated. everybody shits on Microsoft and the only time you here about PC game is when console players cry about no controller support for the latest strategy game.

>>376211991
I don't own a PSquadruple and I'm not interested in HZD in the slightest, but the game does look pretty great. Def the best looking PS4 game.

>>376211703
>I'm too lazy to properly review these games, might as well give them 100s seeing as there's so much hype behind them

>>376212762
>Yet it's still the most revered recent entry in the genre.
That would be Skyrim, 6 years old, still the king.
There's a reason why Zelda went the Skyrim route with its open world, and let you just fuck around and do whatever you want the way you want it.

>/v/ is still arguing about this

2017 is going to be a long year.

>>376212315
Zelda doesn't sell like Mario/Pokemon. It always makes me laugh when zelda fanboys try to claim that it's part of some sort of "holy trinity" with those elite franchises.

Horizon did GREAT! !It was an original IP!
Fucking ninTODDLERS. NinBABIES! PCCUUCKS! XBOTS! ATARI FAGUARS! COMMODORKS 64s! We Sony Soldiers are the real victims here! Just like women!
If it's good enough for sony, if it's good enough for sony, if it's good enough for sony, then it's good enough for me!

>>376213940
On /v/, good scores matter but only if it's a game you like, and bad scores don't matter if it's a game you like. /v/ is a magical place where 9/10+ games like Skyrim are called utter and complete garbage, while 6/10 games like God Hand are considered flawless 10/10 masterpieces.

>>376211703
The inventor's of video games beats out a shitty electronics company yet again.

How can they even compete?

>>376215120
>and the only time you here about PC game is when console players cry about no controller support for the latest strategy game.

Or PC players cry for console games.

>>376215362
>being so mad over electronic company

Seek medical help.

>>376215375
This is some poor bait friend

>>376215384
Then it's not a PC game. Fuck sake, it's like a console is a badge for school dropouts.

>>376211703
She zip lines down ropes with her bare hands and arrows do an unrealistic b line to any direction they shot at with 0 curvature even if shot into space with the worse looking trail of smoke that would kill all immersion. BotW might not be hyper realistic but it sure is more realistic in what it does

>>376215449
>he's making fun of a video game company
>obviously not of me

Saw a little too much of yourself in that post, did you?

>>376215362
This post perfectly encapsulates what's wrong with /v/.

>>376215490
It's wannabe PC game. You see many PC autists like you in console threads. This is another example. You guys are like attention whores nobody care about.

>>376215546
>realism is a good thing in games and it directly correlates with how fun a game is

>>376215669
>he's making fun

Really? Whole post looks like some angry autism attack.

>>376215546
>zip lines down ropes with her bare hands
>arrows shoot straight

clearly you havent played the game.

>>376215774
I feel we are both in agreeance then?

>>376215362
Someone call ambulance.

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>>376211703
Ftfy

>>376215860
Arrows are straight, or they have so little drop I don't even notice

>>376216147
A full power shot maybe. Try releasing one early.

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Didn't Horizon sell more?

>>376214152
based retard

>>376216359
It outsold Zelda for a while. Then Zelda was released.

>>376211818
>Phil Fish
Kek

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>>376211703
>ITT:

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>people who are not me liked a thing better than another thing

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>>376216672
>w-what about these Sony games?!?!

>>376216750
You cannot refute that picture.

>>376216819
Sure, I can. Sony makes movies, Nintendo creates the best games of all time. I'd put Mario Kart over any other racing game, even if it's not perfect.

>>376212662
Daggerfall >>>>

>>376216938
>scores don't matter now, it's movie

Nintendo fans autism

>>376216938
So you're retarded. Glad we cleared that up.

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>>376217108
Not my fault Sony doesn't create any games. I wouldn't even play their shit games for free.

>>376216938
Nintendo makes rehashes, Sony creates the best games of all time. I'd put Gran Turismo over any racing game, even if it's not perfect.

>>376215120
woahh it's almost no different from regular neogaf then!

>>376217331
>>376216938
what are SIEJ studio games

>>376217331
>Sony don't create games
>I wouldn't play their games

You are so dumb that can't even shitpost properly.

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>>376217331
>Being this mad

It doesn't matter if it's a movie or not, people will still buy Sony games, and they'll continue to make money.

Oh boy, can't wait until August when Uncharted: The Lost Legacy comes out and /v/ will be set ablaze yet again.

>>376216938
>Mario Kart
Not even Nintendo's best Racing Franchise

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>>376211818
my sides

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>>376217108
>muh qte's

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>>376217440
Creators of turds like Knack? Bitch please.

>>376212025
Zelda ain't a RPG, retard

>>376217367
>GT
>uncharted
>Ratchet and Clank
>Gravity Rush 2
>souls but in Japan
>Persona 5
>souls but werewolves
>not rehashes
>better than Forza Horizon

>>376217528
>posting different game by different dev QTE
>when TLOU don't even have single one


You are getting more and more desperate.

>>376217507
>those ugly ass bitches
Can we nuke modern western devs please?

>>376217585
Yes, they are not rehashes and better than Forza Horizon. You can read properly.

>>376217585
Persona 5 is Atlus
Souls/Nioh isn't first party either

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>>376217331
drones still lying about Breath of the Wild's metacritic score.

Thank me later.

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>>376217892
The funniest thing to me is finding out it's just poor people shitposting because they can't afford Nintendo thanks to vint.

>>376217892
Even old PS1 skateboard game beat Zelda.

>>376217640
>TLOU don't even have single one

Confirmed for never even playing it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPtpClF1H-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfScaCyhk5w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiipwukxSBA

Then the fact that you don't even play games due to being a Sony fan doesn't even surprise me.

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>>376218030
delete this now

>>376218030
Jesus christ those are not full qte sequences

>>376211847
/pol/ is literally always right

>>376218030
Jesus, and people say these aren't movies?

>>376218026
Not him but BOTW has 97 metascore on Switch and 96 on WiiU. You are retarded.

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>>376217892
To many underaged on this site, Tony Hawk was cool back in the day.

>>376218138
>button pops up
>press button to win
Well what is it then?

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>>376218242

>>376218030
Those are not QTE you idiot. According to your logic pressing button to open door in Zelda is QTE.

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>>376218026
When's the last time you checked the metascore?

I love BotW so far, but I don't see how it could get so many top scores when it has real issues.

Horizon came and went faster than a flavor of the month early access game so fuck that.

>>376218342
What the fuck.

>>376218138
>>376218368
>Literally defending movie trash gameplay
How this place has fallen.

>>376218182
You have to press button to open door so it's movie? Nintendo fans are even more mentally challenged than I thought.

>>376212071

Star Fox 0 was literally a train wreck and giving it a 6 was too much.

It's a 3 at the most.

Removing the fucking forced motion controllers would have made it a 7.

>>376218315
Pro Skater 3 remains my personal favorite, and I enjoyed Underground 1 for what is was trying to be. Didn't bother with the Pro Skater HD collection since they completely fucked up the physics to no end.

Pro Skater 5 was just a fever dream and didn't actually happen.

>>376218342
what the fuck was he arguing with devolver digital about that made him post his cum covered face?

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>>376218474
Even the critics admit it's a fucking movie, mate.

>>376218458
>can't even form argument only repeat the same autism

>>376211991
>"blur that shit so you cant see the shit graphics"

Are you talking about BotW or Horizon?

Because that shit applies to both, moreso on BotW since that shit is 720.

>>376218317
>Press Triangle to open door
>HURR MUH QTES

>>376211703
Petty flame wars conjured up by poor fag, brand loyalist who can't/won't buy more than 1 (one) system.

This thread should be deleted and you should be banned on the spot.

>>376218559
Nope, they call it video game.

>>376212025
>Nothing will EVER top The Witcher 3: The Wild Hunt as far as open world RPG's go
New Vegas came out 7 years ago

>>376212115
>v is one person

>>376218559
>Story feels like movie
>that means it's movie and has no gameplay

If TLOU is movie Zelda is not a game but cartoon. Nintendo create cartoons not games.

>>376218636
>pressing a button once =/= mashing it like a tard

I bet you can't wait for "God of Rehash now with My Wifes Son".

>>376211703
Both games follow the same 'guaranteed 10's' open world game formula, that's why two slightly above average games have so many 10/10 ratings.

>>376211818
>it looks more diverse

ummmm

>>376218912
>Can't answer
>act like autist and use meme

BTFO

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>>376214368
HZD 2.6m copies
BotW 3.8m copies

>>376218342
/ourguy/

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>>376211818
neofag is a weird one.

scrolled through the Persona 5 thread and half of it was bitching about misogyny and how the waifu elements were 'cringy', but at the same time praising the rest of the writing.

neofag users are pretty much political correct mouthbreathers to me, Persona is all about the waifus, if you want good writing you should just read a book and if you want good gameplay you shouldn't play Persona either.

>>376219016
>act like autist and use meme
Nice retard talk.

The Last of Us has 95 metascore, yet Nintendo fans call it bad game or movie. I don't get it. Scores count or not?

>>376219114
Going to neogaf ever...

Please remove yourself immediately.

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>>376215346
>zelda fans have literally no response

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>>376219217
Scores for movies never count. Link related http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/gone-home

why is it that liking these games is a mutually exclusive thing
why do you argue so tribally about fucking video games

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>>376219408
>Scores for movies never count

Scores for rehashes and cartoons too.

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>>376219408
>mfw TLoU will never fail to cause butthurt in nintendo fanboys

>>376215362
Atari faguars
>Triple double kek

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>>376219114
>if you want good gameplay you shouldn't play Persona either
my man. If Persona ever adopts the press turn system, I'll be more interested in the gameplay

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>>376211703
I SAID FUCKING DELETE THIS!!! DIVERSITY WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL!!!

>>376219408
>multiplayer
>crafting, shooting, melee combat
>movie

Fucking what?

>>376211703
female protags are a down fall no matter how much cucks reee on here

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>>376219913
Man, all the backpedalling they've done lately has been hilarious.

>>376214476
>20 yr old IP
this goes beyond newfaggotry

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>>376215362
>If it's good enough for sony, if it's good enough for sony, if it's good enough for sony, then it's good enough for me!
I read this sentence like it was the lyrics to a song for some reason.

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>>376211703
The funny part about these two games is that around 50.3% of sales of Horizon are from the EU 27.5% are in NA. For Zelda it's 45.7%NA and 29.6% EU.

Mainly those dirty cucks from the EU bought it xD Those ones that love to let Muslims rape their assholes and kill them with buses.

>>The hit game The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild has sold around 3.84 million copies between the Nintendo Switch and Wii U versions, a notable cross-platform success considering the circumstances of a new system launch and its ailing predecessor.
Specifically, Breath of Wild sold 2.76 million units on the Switch and 1.08 million units on the Wii U. As we covered in an article discussing Switch sales, the console has only sold 2.74 million units so far, meaning more copies of Breath of the Wild were sold than the systems themselves. While this had been mentioned in analytical reports several weeks ago, it's funny to see Nintendo finally confirm this sales quirk, and it just shows how eager players have been to play the adventure title.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/04/zelda_breath_of_the_wild_pushes_switch_and_wii_u_sales_3ds_has_multiple_million-sellers

>>376218342
fucking hate this fat faggot

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>>376212025

three's a crowd

>>376219054
>HZD 2.6m copies
In a week

>BotW 3.8m copies
In 2 months

kek, ninteniggers on suicide watch

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Jesus Christ! QTE followed by a quip. Was this game focus grouped by reddit? Western gaming was a mistake

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>>376211703
Why does anyone even fucking care? The only people saying anything good about Horizon are shills. I'm a huge Sonybro and Horizon looks like the most dull, uninspired, overmarketed shit I've seen in a long time. Any Sonybro with a brain knows that Persona 5 is GOTY.

>>376219704
>mfw Sony will never fail to cause butthurt in nintendo fanboys

FIFY

>>376220314
That's fishy as fuck, some monkey business went on there.

This to me just shows how shit video game critics are. So that many "professional critics" really think BOTW is a perfect game? Get real, it's a great game but has plenty of gaping flaws.

>>376214152
>A Sony/LGBTQEF+R fan site
>Nintendogaf
Retard.

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>>376220740
HZD is falling from the charts, BotW isn't. I said it was going to happen but Sony drones were like "nooo, that's never going to happen." even if it happens to every Sony exclusive.

>>376220740
Feel free to post how much HZD has sold now, you won't find any numbers because it's shameful to sony.

>>376220740
Zelda outsold HZ for the first month in NPD with less days.

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>>376220161
Are you guys for real? Is this how easily /v/ is bamboozled these days?

>>376220740
Thar's less than a month not two.

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>>376221016
Nah, Horizon is still selling. I don't care if it never hits Zelda numbers, just the fact it was a critical and commercial success is enough to kill the Ninteniggers,

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>>376221016
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>>376221056
>>376221159
>i-its not t-true!

>>376221067
I was laughing at the post itself. That last sentence destroyed my sides. Everyone else believed him though.

>>376221056
>Horizon
>exclusive brand new IP

>BOTW
>non-exclusive sequel to one of the most beloved franchises of all time

Really makes your conker tonker

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>>376220809
Nah

the goalposts keep moving

>>376221293
I disagree but Yakuza 0 is a very good game.

>>376220809
>D-do I fit in yet g-guys?!

>>376220809
>Persona 5
>GOTY
I love Persona 5. Like, I fucking LOVE it. Favorite Persona cast, etc. Great game. Nowhere close to GOTY though. Cut content out the wazoo, poorly chopped together story after the fact. The game could have been so much better, and with that fact said, it cannot be GOTY.

>>376219114
The gameplay's good. Just as an aggregate. That's how I feel about SMT games in general. The experience overall is definitely enjoyable, but from battle to battle it is monotonous. Kind of like climbing a mountain to see a vista.

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>>376221424
Fuck off moron. Horizon looks mediocre at best. Play Nioh if you want a good PS4 game.

>>376220809
>looks like

Right, so you never played it. The gods honest truth is that if you think Horizon is boring and uninspired, you will think Zelda is too. The only way you wouldn't is that you were so blinded by nostalgia it somehow made you think this giant open world with nothing to do in was somehow reveloutionary.

>>376221258
60 million stall base vs 15 million. Really does.

>>376221258
So that's what shifting the goalposts sounds like, thanks anon

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>>376221407

>>376221210
>Crying falseflag wojak somehow changes facts

>>376221067
It's obvious he is Nintendo fan, only worried about his mental state.

>>376221696
>nothing to do in
Confirmed to never have played it. Fuck off HZD shill. I borrowed the game from a friend and it was fucking awful. HZD is complete trash compared to BoTW. The scripted gameplay is boring as hell, the plot is fucking awful trash marketed toward people like Neogaf who are basically "SJW" incarnate.

PS4 has some good games, but HZD is not one of them.

>>376221707
I don't think it's Sony fault that no one wants Nintendo consoles.

>>376218342
What a genuinely repugnant human being.

>>376221995
>no one
Maybe get from under that rock

I like how Gaf is a scrapegoat against everyone depending on what. If it's Sony doing something, then Neogaf is Sonygaf. Nintendo? Nintengaf. Someone complaining against /pol/? sjwGaf.

It's almost like they're not a hivemind, kinda like /v/!

>>376222115
Not him, but how do we go from 100M Wii sales to less than 20M in Wii U sales?

>>376211883
People keep parroting this meme, but has anyone ever proved paid reviews are a thing, let alone that specifically Nintendo does them?

>>376222213
Neogaf is literally a politically correct sony fan site. Just because some Nintendo fans post there doesn't mean a thing. Fuck off back there.

>>376221407
I'm unironically going to masturbate to this later.

>>376222273
Nintendo pays for reviews. Don't be a silly little child. Microsoft, Sony, EA, Nintendo, they ALL pay for reviews.

>>376212492
>no weather system
>no physics whatsoever
>side quests are wow tier
>linear story
"i watched a 4 min lets play of this game and it fucking sucks"
>you can have sex with anyone
how is this bad?

>>376221407
>98

BOTW has lower score.

>>376220809
Persona is great, don't get me wrong. But it's not GOTY material. It didn't leave a huge impression on me like NieR did.
I also prefer mainline to Persona

>>376222263
Poor marketing, bad naming decision, bad word of mouth.

>>376222323
You can get banned for /pol/shit on /v/ too :^)

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>>376222273

"Proof" is a strong word, but there are definitely issues that crop up from time to time. People have gotten fired over bad reviews of a sponsor's product. There was that time when Sony bribed people with free game consoles for tweets. There's IGN writing impressions that do a total 180 come review time. Stuff like that.

>>376213098
Jim Sterling has had first-hand experience with this one

>>376212492
>Side quests are WoW tier.
>No weather system.
>Linear story.
>Only one useful elixir.

This is objectively false

>"Hurrr you can have sex with everyone"

I wish. You can't even fuck Ciri, Cerys or Anna.

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>>376222607
Difference being Jim pretty much planned all this

Literally not even 24 hours later after his site was DDOS'd by "Zelda Fans" he already had a Jimquisition on them and Zelda's combat

>>376222273
Plenty of ex IGN/Gamespot writers have come out saying so, some even get fired for not taking the money or not giving a high enough score
http://www.zeldainformer.com/former-ign-employee-admits-review-scores-are-skewed-due-to-public-relations/

>>376222845
DELETE THIS

>>376212492
>EZ win spidey senses.
Fuck, this made me so mad. I really enjoyed the game but every fucking side quest just had you following enormous red markings.

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>>376221696
>if you think Horizon is boring and uninspired, you will think Zelda is too
I do.
The level design in Breath of the Wild is nothing but sparse open fields, valleys, and mountains.
The shrines are repetitive as fuck and the puzzles are so fucking easy that they insult your intelligence.
Combat feels slower and less intuitive than previous Zeldas and the framerate is absolute ass.
The story is practically nonexistent thanks to the game being completely open world. When will people fucking realize that linearity is a good thing since it ensures a well structured narrative in a game? Making a game completely open world results in narrative ADD.
The music is both bland and barely existent. There's not ONE memorable track in Breath of the Wild's OST.

And Horizon? Do I even fucking NEED to point out its flaws when this alone sums it up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUpPYvELLB8

Long story short, I thought Breath of the Wild was a total disappointment, and I think that Horizon looks like shit too.

Persona 5 completely blows Breath of the Wild and Horizon out of the water on all fronts. It has great gameplay, great story and characters, gorgeous level design, a kickass soundtrack, you name it. It is an objectively perfect game.

Even Final Fantasy XV, flawed and rushed as it was, was better than BOTW and Horizon. Level design was lacking, but it had great core gameplay, a story that was solid despite cutting corners, great characters, and an amazing soundtrack.

Both BOTW and Horizon are just plain shit.

>>376222792
Jim already said he planned to give BotW a bad score. Only Sony drones defend that obese cuck.

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>>376211818
>post apocalyptic society with limited population
>still see people of all the colors of the rainbow instead of a single brown racially homogenous tribe
>only way this is possible is avoiding miscegenation, which also leads to retarded inbred children in small populations
but muh diversity

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>>376211703
>Why is this allowed?

>zelda save the world/princess trope
vs
>stronk independynt womxn
>sharia compliant story
>men are bumbling idiots
>buttfuck ugly main character

The fuck did you expect son?

>>376211703
>muh Zaldo

>>376222792

Yeah it's hard to take someone serious when their core means of income is pandering to a certain set of retards who watch him bitch about game companies and shitty steam games. Business-wise it's apparently a solid plan, he should exploit that shit as hard as possible, but I wouldn't take anything he writes as anything remotely close to real criticism. And anyone who does take him seriously should be ignored as well.

>>376211818
So diversity is more important than gameplay?

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>>376223068
>Persona 5 completely blows Breath of the Wild and Horizon out of the water on all fronts
Well different strokes for different folks, we all have different opini-
>Even Final Fantasy XV, flawed and rushed as it was, was better than BOTW and Horizon
Pic related

>>376212492
>false, you also have signs and a crossbow. Also, how is it a duty to implement multiple types of weapons? It doesn't make an RPG.
>false, you can't win by dodging and rolling, it's just a tool to avoid getting rekt
>false, side quests often have complex and interesting stories to them and they also branch out often
>true :(
>true :(
>lol have you even played the game faggot?
>linear main quest does not make linear game, that's what side quests are for. You also often have different ways to achieve your goals. Also, every single game with a fixed story ever had a linear story, how is that even an argument?
>false, you can't fuck everyone
>false, you're just unimaginative and can't come up with different tactics and different uses of different equipment in different situations. Git gud ffs
>so what
>false

Why do you have to lie to get your point across? Perhaps your point is inaccurate?

>>376223068
>Even Final Fantasy XV, flawed and rushed as it was, was better than Horizon
Yes
>and BotW
You were convincing until this part

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>>376212762
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>>376223337

What is Horizon about, anyway? Is it also post-apoc open world where you rek enemies and take their shit?

>>376214152
Babby's first mistake post on /v/

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>>376223296
I never said that XV was perfect shithead. It's just better than BOTW and Horizon.
>>376223395
When you compare both XV and BOTW and analyze each of their strengths and flaws, it becomes evident that XV is the better game. It doesn't matter though since Persona 5 is better than BOTW, XV, and Horizon combined.

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>read a few reviews from big publications
>they point out flaws in the game and things about the game they simply tolerate
>give it a 10/10 anyway
journalistic integrity my friends

>>376212787
All the way up until the release of Horizon, people kept spamming /v/ with threads claiming that it would blow BotW the fuck out. They're the reason the comparisons even exist.

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>>376223737
>I never said that XV was perfect shithead. It's just better than BOTW and Horizon.
Saying it's better than anything makes your opinion invalid

>>376211703
>Why is this allowed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVPXKdSEGNQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEGWtyJAkO0

I won't even say that Horizon bad. In fact it's pretty great at what it does if you cut around the fluff like the follow the trail quests and whatnot. But this is still why.

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>>376223737
hmm...

>>376220081
>don't think about you at all
>constantly making false flag and shitpost threads
really made me think

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>>376223793
>people
I think you mean one person

Lol

Breath of the wild is still the only game to get the Wii-U for. Meanwhile PS4 has tales of Berseria, Kingdom hearts 2.8, Gravity Rush 2, Nioh, persona 5, and Horizon.

Playstation has many game chocies from many genres to pick from, with nintendo it's whatever one game the company decides to releases that quarter.

>>376224105
>Berseria
>Horizon
>Good
at least mention Yakuza you shitposting pratt, what an embrassing post

>>376223453
Hard to tell, both the fans and haters of Witcher 3 used terrible, false arguments (including the one's this guy posted) to criticize or defend the game not long ago, so I wouldn't call it bait.

Not every shitty argument is bait senpai. Sometimes they're just shitty arguments. Don't act like people can't be stupid, jist baiting.

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>>376211703
>Oh no why muh aaa obvious generic trash is not better than a proper good game

>>376211991
>Zelda changed open world gaming
I keep seeing this statement but haven't been clarified how its changed. This is coming from a pc gamer who's played a lot of the green light open world games.

>>376224228
Playstation has so many games not everything can be remembered off the top of your hat.

Nintendo was able to con people into buying Mario kart 8 for full price again for a new system and somehow that counts as a whole new game because this time they remembered to actually finish making it.

>>376214735
They just don't play video games. they do have a PS4 so moviegames are more their thing.

>>376224330
It's the Super Mario 64 argument all over again.

>>376224342
>Nintendo was able to con people into buying Mario kart 8 for full price again for a new system and somehow that counts as a whole new game
Nigger you're asking for it

You know people can also bring up TLOU Remastered right

>>376216938
Star Fox: Zero.
Metroid: Federation Force.

>>376224342
Why can't you just own both systems like a responsible working adult instead of fighting over which fisher price toy is better to justify your purchase you abhorrent NEET?

>>376224342
Sony did the same thing with Uncharted. Why does it make you so mad? Microsoft did it too.
In fact. It has always been a thing.

>>376224443
TLOU Remastered wasn't chagred at full price when they released it, neither was the Uncharted collection.

None of these games were 60 bucks, Mario kart 8 which is in the same catagory as complete edition and anthologies is being charged at new game price for a game that's a few years old. Even the Witcher 3 complete edition wasn't 60 bucks.

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>>376224342
>Nintendo was able to con people into buying Mario kart 8 for full price again for a new system and somehow that counts as a whole new game because this time they remembered to actually finish making it.

>>376224570
>TLOU Remastered wasn't chagred at full price when they released it
Uhh, yes it was

>>376224476
both are great.

>>376224630
No it wasn't they were 20 dollars cheaper than Mario kart 8.

>>376224403
Well I can point out details about super Mario 64 that it did that made it revolutionary:

>controls and weighted character gave a huge amount of control and immersion
>open world hub gave a huge environment to explore
>secrets all over the game gave reason to explore
>ability to beat the game with around half the stars meant many people had a unique experience reaching the end
>it was actually 3d

I haven't seen a list like this for Zelda.

>>376224648
>Star Fox Zero
>great

holy fuck what

>>376224648
You sound really convinced.

>>376224630
tlou was 40

>>376224570
>>376224692
But TLoU remastered was originally sold at full price you retard with literally no changes outside of resolution and fps. MK8D actually adds new content in like battle mode and new maps. It was only after a few months that Sony dropped the price from $60 to $50

>>376224692
No they were not

I remember specifically TLOU Remastered was either 50 or 60 at one point

Yeah man Horizon shouldn't have one 100 let alone 10 of them

>>376224846
50 dollars is still cheaper than 60.

TLOU Remastered was never 60 dollars. Sony never charges full price for any of the Remasters or Anthologies. Crash N-Sane Trilogy and Wipeout Anthology are both under 60 bucks.

>>376224692
>>376224815
>>376224846
>>376224825


It was going to be 60 people, and then they dropped it to 50

https://www.polygon.com/2014/6/22/5832024/last-of-us-remastered-release-date-preorder-price-drop-refund

>>376225027
You are really fucking stretching to give Sony brownie points. That's almost full price for a game that game out a few months before, in fact that was probably the retail price on the PS3 at the time

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>>376223945
I could say the same about BOTW and Horizon.
>>376223983
I don't give a shit about reviews. I can confidently say that XV is better than BOTW and Horizon based on my own experience playing them. And I can more confidently say that Persona 5 is better than all of them from my experience playing it.

>>376225049
They dropped it to 50 and then offered customers a refund for the 10 dollar difference.

Nintendo couldn't even do anything like that for Mario kart 8 for all the people who bought a wii-u for it already. Nintendo couldn't slash 10 dollars off the price tag and instead charged the same price as the wii-u version.

The Switch is the only console in the year 2017 that dares to charge you 60 dollars for Skyrim.

>>376225249
>I could say the same about BOTW and Horizon.
No you can't it's objectively worse than both

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>>376225249
>DUDE PANCAKES LMAO
great game, the ocean's eleven type reveal totally propelled it into my best game of all time list :):):):):):)

>>376212115
>Nintendo game gets a 9
>ha ha ha shit game in the trash it goes


>Sony game gets a 9
>bullshit it it deserved a 10 it was better in everyway to (game that isn't even in the same genre or style)

>Xbone or PS4 game gets a 10
>I don't think it's that good I mean it's great but it's not that great come on guys 9.9 at the most no way... I really liked (false flag) better

>Nintendo game gets a 10
>bullshit it's not even that good (goes on a tangent proving he's never even played it)

>Xbone or PS4 game has bugs
>they'll fix it (sequel is about to come out) I get it now it was meant to be like that ha ha ha wow that's so good

>Nintendo game has a bug that gets patched almost instantly
>it shouldn't of fucking been like that anyway!

>>376225401
literally all bethesda's fault

>>376225270
Difference being MK8 deluxe actually had new content with all the DLC included, TLOU remastered was the exact same game but the graphics were touched up

>>376225027
>Sony never charges full price
Because their games don't sell at all, you better believe Sony would if they could.

>>376212796
>apparently BoTW stopped selling tho

Literal SonyPony

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>nintenbros and sonybros arguing with a purseowner weeb
I can't tell which side I should shitpost first

>>376225249
P5 was worth the pirate but it isn't a good game, especially compared to XV and Nier. I can understand being this deluded though after waiting 9 years for a new installment.

>>376225518
The new content they included is the battle mode which wasn't even finished in the first game. They released mario kart 8 in an unfinished state. And new this new version of it, they're now charging 60 dollars for all these years later. They think fixing something that should have been fixed in the original game is worth charging 60 dollars for.

>>376211818
>Being this blacked

The fanbase is the worst part, even the game isn't as preachy as the cucks want it to be. It's decent IMHO, but the shoehorned muh matriarchy is the worst detractor to the story.

>>376225548
If their games don't sell why do they have more support and a more robust release schedule than the switch?

If none of these companies games sold you would think they would go elsewhere.

>>376225442
>PC game gets a 9 or a 10
>404 not found

>>376225730
>I didn't like this mode, therefore it's unfinished
I guess you could say TLOU was unfinished because they didn't bother fixing the ugly textures in the PS3 version

>>376225882
There's a difference between bad textures and then leaving the other 50% of the game a bunch of unfinished mirrored tracks.

>>376211703

> Acknowledging the superior game is wrong!

Jajajaja my sides. We get it, PS4 exclusives have been subpar this gen. Give it a rest already.

One is a by-the-numbers open world title that Ubisoft puts out like three times a year. The fact that we got something better than mediocre out of the Killzone devs is a miracle in and of itself.

Zelda is openly defiant of genre convention and to itself, and warrants the acclaim.

>>376225970
>50% of the game
Nigger Battle Mode has always been a small section in Mario Kart

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because my girlfriend likes my cock more than any other cock, so she loves to suck it.

that is the reason why zelda sells more than horizon, because people love the cocks that they are used to.

>>376226048
>openly defiant of genre convention
You mean constantly opening your menu to change weapons because they keep breaking, thinking 900 korok seeds count as content instead of well structured quests and having 120 shrines that look the same instead of dozens upon dozens of unique locals like The Witcher 3.had.

I mean yeah doubling down on bad design philosophy is going against the grain, but should you award it for being THAT stupid?

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>>376223164
>still see people of all the colors of the rainbow instead of a single brown racially homogenous tribe
>only way this is possible is avoiding miscegenation, which also leads to retarded inbred children in small populations

which perfectly explains the character writing and animations

Xenoblade Chronicles X was a better open world game than Zelda. It's world was better deisgned for exploration and exploration scaled with you if you were on foot, flying, or in the giant robot. All the locations looked unique and memorable.

Zelda BOTW is just flat green fields that sometimes are also snow fields and deserts. Also there's some lava.

>>376226048
>>376226250
Wait a second, this is pasta.

>>376212796
BotW remains around a 100~% attach rate.
And Nintendo have already shipped more than twice the initial launch of 2M Switch units and they're still shipping.

No matter what you think about the games you should probably stop implying that Horizon will sell better. Because that will most definitely not be the case.

>>376226906
Horizon Sold enough to warrant a sequel that's all that matters.

>>376217665
Epic meme bro

>>376227046
That's not what you retards said months ago
>hurr it outsold Zelda
>hurr Sony domination

I think it's funny that you idiots are still mad at the game

>>376211818
Is NeoGAF seriously just a sony marketing platform or what? I honestly find it hard to believe these people really exist

>>376227150
So are all Zelda fans as thin skinned as you

>>376227046
Sure. But then it's also pointless to imply that it sold better than BotW. Or to compare it to BotW at all.

>>376226248
I'd rather Link's cock than Aloy's COCKS ARE BAD, MEN ARE EVIL

>>376227081
Sup, modern western dev.

>>376222548
Does Giant Bomb actually have full page ads like that? I guess my adblocker is working overtime because I've never seen anything like that.

>>376211818
>neofag
not a surprise

>>376227285
Remember they DDosed a 7 out of 10 Zelda reviewer's site.

>>376228371
Riiiight.

>>376211703
>Why did this good new installment of one of the most popular video game IP dwarf sales of a new one?!

Why would you release the game on the same week as Zelda?

Did you think the Knack situation wouldn't happen again? When you thought releasing it near Super Mario 3D World was a good idea?

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>>376229484
>When you thought releasing it near Super Mario 3D World was a good idea?
Knack 2 is set to release during the second half of 2017. It might release close to SMO.

>>376229760

>They are going to do it again

Holy shit Sony

Not even Nintendo is stupid

They released Splatoon in a dead month like May and will release Arms in June after E3

Sony needs to learn how to release new IP's