Your ideal next historical title? Mine would be one set from

>>376204557
Now that would a shit setting.

>>376204557
I just want Medieval 3

>>376204790
I don't see you proposing any amazing new ideas, wise guy

>>376204557
why don't you just go buy a map and color it by hand? much more exciting imho

Medieval 3 with nerfed Mali as a selectable faction

And I say "nerfed" because if their GNP was historically accurate you could go through the game buying mercenaries and controlling the entire planet

Renaissance Pike Warfare

Shogun 3 but with more units and sieges that aren't shit.

>>376204557
>1900 and onwards

Now how would that fit Total War gameplay? 150-man smg squads moving and fighting in tight formations?

Total War: Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

Hero units from the book featuring magical powers of the Tao.

>>376204948
Why didn't they do that in real life?

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1400-1600's Spanned between Iran, India, Indochina, and Indonesia.
I'd play the fuck outta that.

Ideal? Shogun 3 with improvements in all the areas 2 was weak in. Love me some medieval Japan.

Ideally? A 20th Century Total War with the battle system stolen from the Wargame series and the political simulation stolen from Paradox' best.

Realistically, we'll get China Total War. Which is fine too, but really just more of the same formula.

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>>376205530
Wargame's Devs and Paradox Interactive have teamed up for their newest game funnily enough

>>376204948
>Medieval 3 with nerfed Mali as a selectable faction

>And I say "nerfed" because if their GNP was historically accurate you could go through the game buying mercenaries and controlling the entire planet

WE WUZ

I want a game like CoH, base building, fighting over resource nodes or whatever you'd change them to, but rome vs carthage with total war style unit control, unit size, and large maps to accommodate.

>>376205037

I'm amazed they still haven't done Three Kingdoms instead of rehashing the same eras.

>>376204557

Talking about a TW, I'd love to get a diadochi era one

>>376204557
That's fucking retarded.

>>376204557

All I want is a Total War game with good AI.

>>376205083
Inflation exists in real life. Mansa Musa pretty much ruined the Middle East for quite a while with hyperinflation because he was a retard.

The only reason Mali was rich was that it had a shitload of gold mines.

American Conquest

So I can purge every native tribes and make the greatest world genocide happening once again. Can't wait to kill all women and children.

>>376204557
Fall of Samurai was everything I needed to ask for.

Some major tweaks though could make this game LESS irritating:

Army / fleet limit is needed, because:
>small one-unit armies constantly harassing you buildings
>it is even WORSE with single ships raiding docks all the time

>>376206270
Well there you go. They can simulate that for Mali or make inflation a universal mechanic.

Is shogun 2 the most overrated game in the history of Videogames?

>>376204557
Finno-Korean hyperwar

>>376204557
What is Victoria 2

>>376204951
This.
But I would prefer something set in the 17th century with a heavy focus on the 30 years war. If done right, it could have a great mix of artillery, heavy cavallery and melee tactics. Also a great variety of factions and the interesting aspect of religion, like in Medieval 2.

>>376204557
1800-1900

>>376204557
American Civil War
Japan when Shogunate would take over
Feudal Japan
Wars in America with Indians
Colonial Britain vs Zulus

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>>376204557
I'd really prefer a very historical setting based in ancient times

Total war of might and magic. Warhammer isnt fantasy enough, we need to go deeper.

>>376206943
This, fucking gooks are gonna regret invading the greatest empire.

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>>376207234

>>376204557
It's already almost confirmed that the next historical game will be Renaissance and will be released in 2019 after Warhammer trilogy ends.

>>376207234
Is that real? I never knew about Finnish empire. I thought Egypt was the only player at that time

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>>376207354
No

>>376207354
>he doesn't know about the Finno-Korean hyperwar

>>376207315
Source

>>376207354
it's a /pol/ meme. finno-ugric people were literally slaves up until 1918.

>>376207417
t. assmad korean

>>376207354
>Egypt

You mean Sumerians.

>>376207461
Corean*

>>376204557
>Not 1820-1910

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>>376206630
Shame CA gave up on expansions proper and now just overprice individual smaller DLC. That practice frankly started with Empire which very much like Shogun 2 got an outstanding expansion. Shame for the shitty state at launch and time period that didn't interest as many people.

>>376205083
Cause them niggas was dumb bruh, plus torn apart by civil war

t. african historian

If they want serious money, they'd make a usa civil war with lots of weight on slavery. /pol/tards from usa to europe can't resist not to play confederates and hurt them darkies, and the rest can't resist playing the yanks to fight for "good".

If they add a world scoreboard/competition showing how many won as either side and the first side to get x number of completed campaigns win the round, and the game will never die too

The Great War: Total War or bust.
Give me 1900-1920 or give me nothing at all.

>>376207430
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-11-16-the-next-historical-total-war-is-an-era-we-havent-tackled-yet

this only leaves only renaissance as medieval and pre-medieval games covered until 1453 and Empire covers after 1700s. between 1453-1700 is renaissance

>>376207641
*the great total war
Fixed the name

>>376206036
I suspect Chink Wars don't really interest that many people not to mention you would once again have the same roster all across the board and after Warhammer there would be huge backlash about that. Shogun had the whole SAMURAI going for it.

>>376207641
How's that supposed to play? I'm pretty sure line infantry is no longer a thing at that point.

>>376207701
Might be Mesopotamia, India, aztecs etc. Not guaranteed to be eurocentric

>>376207820
its just whisful thinking not to expect a euro-centric game. all of their other games were eurocentric except Shogun and people love japanese history unlike *indians*

>>376207820
You can base it on a lot of things, but the problem is you need to get people to actually buy it which means time period needs to have wider appeal.

>>376207701
Might be 1800s. The kind of 'Victoria: Total War' that people keep asking for.

That really seemed like the direction they were going in with Fall of the Samurai

>>376208151
>Might be 1800s. The kind of 'Victoria: Total War' that people keep asking for.
This
Plus they can get the burgers interested with Civil war stuff

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>rome 2 over 2.5 million copies sold
>attila not even at one million

people just have shit taste

>>376208323
I wasn't willing to touch Attila after being burned by Rome 2 until it was on sale for $8.

>>376208323
I dont think you can really blame people for not buying Attila after Rome 2. It's the same shit with Napoleon and Empire.

They should just make the first big game not a total mess rather than releasing a smaller second one that tries to fix all the mistakes

>>376207820
a non-eurocentric TW game besides Japan is bound to fail, unless it's about China which might have a chance

>>376208151

>Might be 1800s. The kind of 'Victoria: Total War' that people keep asking for.

Two biggest things I've seen people ask for are China/Three Kingdoms and Victoria, followed by the Great War (and a bunch of people trying to figure out how that would even work given the TW formula) and all the retreads (Medical/Rome/Shogun 3 or Empire 2). Both China and Victoria allow for a lot of growth, with Chinese expansions across the eras (all the way up to the 20th century, which would be a good testing ground for the Great War) and Victoria expansions expanding the map and playable factions (which could segue into China via the Opium Wars and Boxer Rebellion and maybe into the Great War via time period expansion). Both would be great choices.

Non-eurocentric warfare is total shit because all enemies are same or lack enough historical references to distinguish them.

Medieval remains the most diverse period.

>>376208323
I haven't bought anything after Shogun 2 because they don't do complete editions anymore and I'll be damned if I buy their overpriced DLC.

>Attila on sale for $10 on Bundlestars
>all the DLC was $40 during that same sale
Fuck that shit.

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Give me a quick rundown on Total War. I'm interested in the series but am not sure which ones are worth buying or considered the best.

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>>376208323
>tfw late Romeaboo
>Attila's failure means we'll never get another Late Roman game again

>>376208583
>not sure which ones are worth buying
whichever has the setting that most interests you, with the exception of Rome II which is just shit

>>376208323
I could take a rancid shit, release it to the community and have it do better than how Rome 2 did. Of course people would be wary

>>376208323
They should've made Medieval 3 instead of Attila. You even had the ERE having Varangians and Greek Fire even though those didn't exist until later on

>>376208323
Rome 2 was an utter disaster so I don't blame them.

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>tfw no Rome vs Han China Total War

>>376204557
TOTAL WARHAMMER 2

>>376208753
Medieval 3 is a big title where they save for a rainy day.
If medieval 3 comes out as a disaster like Rome 2, it's over.

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>>376208583
Attila is the best generally from a mechanical perspective, great battles and a great campaign map
Warhammer has the best battles but is lacking in all other areas
Empire has the best campaign map but is kind of a shit game overall

>>376204884
Not him but there is only 1 good option left and its >>376204951

Early 14th century to late 17th. Involves the end of the knight period, the early gun age, and the Renaissance gun age of pike/shot. Basically its like Empire and Medieval had a baby and gave it a giant floppy hat with a feather in it.

>>376205037
>>376206036
Because no one gives a flying fuck about Chinese warfare

It doesnt take you long to realize its literally one of the most boring periods of human warfare.

>>376208753
Entire point of Attila was to try out some shit they would end up using in Warhammer like, for example, how a horde faction would work.

Total War: Iraq

>>376208813
Yeah but it seems like the wanted to make Medieval 3 instead of Attila

Medieval 3.

>>376204557
Let me form the Kalmar Union.

>total war that includes entire world
Possible? And I mean to make it fun and not tedious to have to deal with entire world

>>376208813
After Warhammer's financial success I think they're scouting for more properties they can adapt as opposed to rehashed sequels they know fans will be never be satisfied with.

>>376208902
No it wasnt you complete moron, CA always does a second game thats a similar time period as to the last game. Attila was their attempt to recoup face after Rome 2 was such a disaster.

Hordes existed years before Attila came out in the exact same fashion.

>>376208323

Poor sales in a series are often reflective of the failures of the previous title and not necessarily the failures of the current one. Like the others, I got Rome 2 but am now more cautious so I didn't get anything since (though Rome 2 after a shitload of patches is better, though still has plenty of questionable design decisions).

>>376208570

>I haven't bought anything after Shogun 2 because they don't do complete editions anymore and I'll be damned if I buy their overpriced DLC.

Man I feel the same way. All of this DLC nonsense has sort of forced me to patiently wait for a complete edition that just has everything. Unfortunately it seems they've caught wind of all the smart consumers waiting for the good deal and don't do that any more, or have very incomplete complete editions.

>>376208583

Rome 1 and Medieval 2 are considered the best by many, but do as >>376208648 says and pick the period that most interests you.

>>376205530
>Realistically, we'll get China Total War
no we won't. the chinese don't allow accurate portrayal of their past. they literally believe it's filled with actual magic and wizards and shit. fucking subhumans

>>376208949
Well, they make Total Warhammer.

Lot of that meshes with Medieval 3.

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>>376208827
>the game in which France is one province has the best campaign map

You're all thinking too small

Here is the real ultimate TW game

Total War: Age of Mythology
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onik-BD92Ow

>>376208540
>the Great War (and a bunch of people trying to figure out how that would even work given the TW formula)
Literally by not putting trenches so it doesn't end like the european theatre, thats literally all you need to do.

>>376209000
Isn't Hearts of Iron banned in China because it portrays a fragmented China at game start?

>They pretend it's been the same size throughout its history.

>>376208827
I think the problem is only the minority of players actually cares that much for the campaign aspect and focus more on combat. Total War designed has merely reflected this over the years.

>>376205530
>A 20th Century Total War with the battle system stolen from the Wargame
That is the single worse suggestion for a TW game iv ever heard

>>376209064
>mythology
Fuck no. I'm sick of le magic and fantasy setting

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>>376208583
Do not touch Medieval 2. It's shit praised by delusioned nostalgiafags with only redeeming quality being mods. Play Shogun 2 at first, as it is the easiest one to grasp due to having only one faction in entire game.
Then play Atilla or Warhammer, they are the best in the series.

>>376209171
Total Warhammer is the first game where they skim on the campaign features, though it is a special title, you cannot expect dorfs to ally with orcs and you cannot have normal faction leaders like normal TW games.

>>376209143
It also shows Nationalist China (now called Taiwain) as the actual goverment.

>>376208959
>After Warhammer's financial success I think they're scouting for more properties they can adapt

The Elder Scrolls. Fucking calling it. You get varied armies, extensive lore and whatever the fuck scenarios you can set the game to.

>>376208885
Bruz, have you even read the Three Kingdoms? It's fucking awesome. Straight up murdering suckers with repeating cross bows in the 4th century n shit.

>>376209192
All Total War games are incredibly simple and easy to grasp though.

>>376209190
Too bad shitbird, not only is fantasy more popular than history its objectively better.

>>376209248
Heaven forbid that Chiang Kai-shek once controlled the majority of China.

It was always glorious communist under chairman Mao!

I want next iteration of total war available on console. They could streamline some UI interface to make it playable on a gamepad

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>>376209192
Shogun 2 is the beginning of modern Total War. For both good and bad.

>mfw they never expanded on Avatar Conquest mode
Fuck you CA, I liked it.

>>376208827
Attila suffers from a lot of its "advanced" mechanics not actually being that deep or fun, and they sometimes don't work that well.

The unit upgrade thing is really annoying because some of the upgraded units are worse than the older units and you can't recruit the older units anymore after getting the upgrade. It's just a shit mechanic overall.

Disease also not being a very fun mechanic and it only takes away time that can be spent having battles which is Total War's main thing.


It's overall a good game, but it suffers from having a lot of smaller annoying stuff. Just like all Total War games I guess.

>>376209274
Every single Chinese battle tactic for literally over a thousand years
>Crossbows
>Peasant spam
>Chariots (until they got replaced by cav)
>shit tier armor

Thats literally fucking it. It would make one of the worst TW games of all time as every single faction played the exact same. The only way they could even get a inch of unique units would be if they went entirely fantasy and brought in all the weapons Chinese invented but never actually used.

>>376209064
This. Only fantasy setting which would made sense after Warhammer. It would be different enough.
Other than that Pike and Shot or Victoria. Fuck China.
>>376209279
For u
A lot of new players who started with Warhammer complain that it is too hard and they have no idea what to do. Atilla is hard too for them.
>>376209347
Avatar Conquest would be perfect for Warhammer. Hell, there is no better place to customize your lord than in fantasy game with all those magical items.

>>376209347
realm split was rad though. it was so fucking difficult

>people pretending its going to be China
What we already know is that its not a setting done before and that CA is putting a lot of effort into copying the major aspects of Warhammer for the next history title, in particular the important people of the time.

China makes zero sense in that regard. You cant make unique factions at all, and no one knows any of its leaders. Other options like the Renaissance makes infinitely more sense.

>>376209521
>dat feel when you'll never customize your own Border Prince and fight for land

>>376209274
the three kingdoms is mostly fiction, are you stupid?

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>>376204557
Something non-Euro or a sequel please

C H I N A
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or pike and shot would be cool too but the AI might not be able to handle it correctly

>>376209279
This is true anon. But if you actually go look at the TW community you'll see how horrid it is at their own game. The community is down right fucking retarded at it. You could just go play online and see it, or go watch any of the top streamers, they are all absolutely god fucking awful at TW.

Thats why TW has never gotten any improved AI. The playerbase could literally not handle it.

>>376208323
The time period is boring, that's the main reason. Also fuck horse archers.

>>376209000

The Chinese don't allow accurate portrayal of their past because the communist party wants to make the narrative favor them. China cannot be shown divided, it must always portrayed as unified lest the outlying territories get ideas like "freedom" and "secession" (not that they need help thinking those up but it won't stop the communists from trying). This doesn't apply as much if it's heavily fictionalized with legendary heroes riding into battle to personally duel each other instead of leading from the rear like a sensible general. Making it unrealistic is their way of getting around government censorship.

The weird voodoo belief shit is more of a result of China's failure to modernize anything outside the cities, and their over-aggressive state enforced atheism backfiring. I mean you can't just sweep thousands of years of superstition and religious tradition under the rug in a few years, just look at the west where we still have buildings that are missing floor 13 purely out of superstitious fear of a number and churches still represent major political forces that can outweigh science. Shifting beliefs is something that takes time, and rushing it leads to huge backlashes and people doubling down on the irrational.

>>376209065

It's more about trying to fit the large formational warfare that's typical of TW games. WWI is where small unit tactics start to take over, so how do you get the two pieces to fit? I mean they obviously could change the formula but that's a big risk, and if anything businesses are risk-averse as hell when it comes to big budget productions.

>>376209521
>>376209598
Making your own lord sounds nice and all, but that would mean they would have to make a bunch of new customize-able items and chances are this variation of the engine doesnt have the S2 switch and swap system.

What I do hope however is the next historical game does let you change your armies gear, and it has a proper logistics system like HoI has. Considering this is 'Total War' its kinda funny the only thing it does is tactics. Strategy and logistics are nonexistent.

>total war's greatest thing is modding
>they take away the ability to use custom strategic maps

Wankers

>>376209683
>tfw I play online the most in TW games
Anyone else do this? It's gotten kind of boring because everyone's so shit

>>376204557
>Mine would be one set from 1850-1950
This isn't even two, it's 3 distinct type of combat and war bordering on 4.

Are you retarded?

>>376209434
Well again, i think it would be most interesting if they based it on the book, because then you would have all sorts of crazy units. Like those barbarians with invinsible wooden armour that is super flammable. Or the ability to control weather.

You sound kind of mad tho. I suspect you have no idea what you're talking about, just hateing on China for some reason. Are you a Nip?

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>>376209830
>Lets make a fantasy chinese game instead of a historical title
Kill yourself Chink, your time period is utter shit just like S2 was.

>>376209830
>. Like those barbarians with invinsible wooden armour that is super flammable. Or the ability to control weather.
Oh so a boring version of Warhammer?

yeah, no, go away

>>376204951
This
Like really this

Its extremely hard for me to even conceive of how 16th century tercio / pike-and-shot warfare even fucking worked

moving around self-contained square blocks of mixed infantry like that must've been really awkward

>>376209776
I got bored of going up against endless pike spaghetti lines or steamtank spam.

TW doesnt need PvP as its multiplayer, it just needs better coop modes. I think a survival one would be pretty fun

>>376209950
I would love this but the AI probably couldn't handle it and the player base might go into it like empire and Napoleon

>>376209830
>just hateing on China for some reason

People are just fucking sick of this retarded Three Kingdoms suggestion every time, that's apparently so bland as a setting that you'd have to put in magic and a bunch of random bullshit to even make it work

>>376210015
Well the whole thing is romance fantasy by Chinese propagandists so yeah.

It would be like getting a Vietnam War game except the Americans rode dinosaurs and won.

>>376210090
I'd actually play that

>>376210149
More accurately I guess it would be the Viets riding the dinosaurs then they conquer the US and kill Thailand

>>376210216
I'd actually prefer that over your first example

>>376209683
To be fair that's because there is a distinct divide between SP and MP.

From the fall of Napoleon through to the 1920's. End of the game mechanic is any preexisting alliances locking in and everybody going apeshit on one another.

>>376210015

It's no more bland than Japan, which was the king of "every faction is nearly identical." At the same time, it is fairly redundant when you have Shogun which covers many of the same time periods.

That actually gives me an idea: expand Shogun outwards towards Korean and China with Mongolia. Bam, now you have East Asia: Total War but branded as either China or Shogun (or fucking Khan: Total War if you're very ambitious) with maximum faction variety in both units and tactics.

>>376210354
They are downright bad at both. Probably only 5% or less of the TW community is actually good at the game.

>>376209771
>Making your own lord sounds nice and all, but that would mean they would have to make a bunch of new customize-able items and chances are this variation of the engine doesnt have the S2 switch and swap system.

Not really, you can just re-use existing parts from units and heroes. Some modularity has to exist there because that's how you randomize individual soldiers in units.

>>376210354

Being able to pause the battle whenever to think about your next move and micro your units is a pretty big difference. It's one of the reasons I'm okay at SP (but not daring enough to go up to legendary difficulty because it gets rid of both my crutches, with the other crutch being multiple saves) but tend to not play MP at all.

Oh come on guys

if i did nothing but hammer-and-anvil every single match how far would i get in MP?

>>376210920
If the enemy player is even slightly competent you will lose

Did they ever do a total war alexander or ancient greek states?

>>376211098
DLC for Rome 1 Total War did this

>>376211098
Rome 1 has a alexander expansion pack and Rome 2 has an ancient greek dlc campaign.

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>>376211165
And for Rome 2 as well.

>>376209000
>caring what chinks think

What about Total War: Victoria which takes place over the reign of queen vic (1837-1901). You can Even have US civil war DLC.

>>376204557
That would be utter crap.
WWI and earlier warfare was way too much different to modern warfare. I would not even place WWI in the same group as 19th century warfare, to be fair.

Some Chinese setting, could be the obvious Three Kingdoms one, but there are many other periods in Chinese History that would fit well with TW gameplay.
Maybe one set during the Italian Wars and earlier, so that we can get some >>376204951 Pike and Shot thing going on. With the focus being on the Italian city-states with mercenaries and all that. Maybe we could play as a mercenary company and play the cities for money while competing/plotting with other companies.

Total War: Victoria when?
You could have USA and CSA, all of the European powers, Japan, China, the Zulu, Ottomans, etc
Honestly this would be my favorite choice out of all of the suggestions

>>376208648
they fixed rome 2 its good now

>>376204790
This. The combat just isn't that suited to the game. Sure it might be fun as a side dlc like FOTS but having an entire game based on it will be meh.

Would prefer an Empire building game from 1600-1850.

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>>376211559
I wish total war games had a better campaign. Maybe not as autistic as GSG games but something with more complexity

>>376211559
I really don't think that there should be any action in the Americas in a game during the Victorian period.
There really wasn't that much interaction going on between Europe and the American Nations apart from trade and some naval action. They should limit what you can do an just focus on Asian and Africa. That's just my take on that.

>>376211796
Maybe, I just thought it'd be interesting to see the civil war play out in Total War. They put America in empire so I bet they'd put it in there too. It would also help if they added Mexico alongside them.

>>376211796
>I really don't think that there should be any action in the Americas in a game during the Victorian period.

When has this ever mattered in a total war game? You can conquer the world as Sweden in Empire.

The american civil war

>>376212172
>Two factions.
Good luck selling that idea. They need at least 24 factions for DLC not to mention those available at release.

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>>376211723
Where is Vicky 3 anyway

>>376212240
>>376212172

CSA and USA. UK. Mexico. Spain. Native Americans.

Yeah. Not enough.

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>>376204557
I want Ottoman: Total War so i can shit on deus vult fags like a true Turk. Too bad it will be chink shit.

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>>376204557
Western Europe 1580 to 1610.
>Best armors.
>Best Weapons
>Best Ganz
>Reform vs Catholics
Prove me wrong

>>376212401
>There will never be a Total War game during the Thirty Years War

>>376212295
I don't want Victoria 3 after how Hearts of Iron 4 turned out.

>>376212295
Vicky 2 was only made because of a poll and a bet, I doubt it would attract enough to warrant being made and if it was made it would be something unrecognizable like HOI4

>>376212113
Sweden was actually a very strong contender for major power in Europe during the 17th century. They mostly failed on managing Russian expansion, which were the ones who fucked them up forever never to rise again.

>>376212547
>>376212509
Fuck. It's absolutely the best GS game they've made.

>>376212463
Nah 30 years war is too late, musket started to become commonplace, and armor less and less useful
From 1580 to 1610 you can have muskets but still not efficient enough to become THE main weapon. But are still a thing.

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>>376211723
Well, if you liked Shogun 2 you can always give Sengoku a try. It's basically Paradox's prototype game for Crusader Kings 2 to try out new engine and systems. Shame they promptly forgot about it.

>>376211796

Given the Wikipedia definition of the Victorian era spanning from 1837 to 1901:
>shitloads of Indian wars
>Mexican-American War
>Utah War aka Mormon Rebellion
>American Civil War
>multiple south and central American interventions
>Spanish-American War

And that's just shit the US was directly involved in, obviously all the other nations in the Americas would be fighting each other too.

>>376212660
Sengoku in my experience is still unplayable. I honestly wish I could get a refund on that piece of shit.

>>376212606
quality over extreme quantity is what happened.

>>376204557
I don't know, but I sure hope they bring naval combat back.

>dat feel when I was one of the weirdos who enjoyed naval combat in Empire
I blame years of pirate simulations.

>>376212738
Spanish american war occur very late in the period.
troubles with Natives hardly reach the same scale of European wars.
European interventions where mostly dealing with arming some side or sending a very small expedition. Anything not relating to the US and Mexico was VERY small in comparison.

I just think that there would be two games in one if they went with this.

>>376212952
Manifest Destiny expansion pack?

>>376208583
First threw games were great, fourth and fifth were okay, everything else was garbage not even worth pirating. I have more respect for a person who plays WoW in the current year than for a person who plays contemporary TW titles.

>>376211796
the american civil war is significant whether you want to admit it or not. it was the first truly modern war. having a game in the victorian period and not acknowledging that would be a disservice to history. then again, it's creative assembly. what do they care about history?

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>>376212606
>tfw Peter the Great, who is still a cool guy, is only more remembered than Carolyn Rex because Carolus died early and his death was the reason Sweden lost the great northern war
>tfw the Great Northern War is the most underrated war in history

Total War: Odyssey, 1200BC historical with some mythological / fantasy elements mixed in

>>376213293
Carolus Rex****

>>376204951
This

>>376213183
Shogun and its expansions are very good.

>>376213246
I'm not trying to diminish the civil-war. I just don't think that the Americans should be involved in the game when themselves were very isolationist and just cared for what happened in the American continent for the majority of the period. Just let it be some event that triggers at some point.

The most that they did was intervening in Japan. The war for Cuba and Puerto Rico and Philippines happened so late that it may as well be ignored when it comes to a game set in the period. The 1900 are so out of scope with the rest of the Victorian era and so Intertwined with the onset of WWI that it should be put in a game dedicated to WWI.

>>376204951
>Medieval 2 Pikes
FUCK MAN STOP DROPPING YOUR STICKS

Persona total war

>>376213657
You can have Americas isolationism serve as a game-play mechanic, where if you decide to expand to rapidly you massively ramp up public discontent and can trigger rebellions and civil wars.

The bigger issue is stopping England from becoming to OP.

Crusades would be great, but not gonna happen in current political hell.

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The Thirty Years War would make an excellent game. THere's already an AGEOD game of it on Steam, I think, but I think a total war one is necessary too.

>>376215587
The first forty years of the 80 years war are more interesting imo but 30 years is good too

>>376212325
>shit on deus vult fags like a true Turk
that's not how it works you little shit

>>376214184
That was never the case. The US isolationism was only with regards to Europe. "The Americas to the Americans" and stuff like this. Do you think that their sphere of influence over all other American countries is something that happened in the 20th century?

I trying to point out that the Americas were almost their own autistic world. European presence after the de-colonization was minimal. US hegemony was only broken briefly during the Civil War and not much really changed after the war was over.

The Civil War was important in Military History, but in general politics of the time its immediate impact wasn't really that great. There were bigger problems around than that: The expansion into Africa, the matter of the Ottoman Empire that permeated the political scene of Europe during the entire century, the opportunities in Asia (China, India, the Steppes, Indochina).

>>376211640
That'd be great, but I would hope it would go to 1900. The Franco Prussian War was pretty badass and still used line infantry.

>>376209000
Who cares about what they think, it's not like those mainlanders buy shit.

>>376209065
You have no idea of how they conducted warfare during WWI, do you?
WWI tactics are very very different from what you see in any TW game ever made, and its not only the trenches. And you can't really take the trenches off of the game, they weren't things that happened during the war, what developed was Trench Warfare not the use of trenches.

>>376215587
The AI wouldn't be able to handle it unless you had fused units in the engine, so shit like pike+musket.

>>376204557
China: The three kingdoms

>>376217385
>My knowledge of WW1 warfare starts and stops at Verdun

>>376204871
age of charlmagne my lord

>>376205180
never knew what happened there at that time.

enlighten me
pls

>>376206010
mercenary warlords and our properties were vast pools of gold

>>376207073
it could be a great dlc, like the caesar in gaul, just bigger than that