Leave 2017 to me.

We already have plenty of microtransaction filled multiplayer games. We don't need any more.

>>376185549
Until you put a prototype AK-47 in the game and ruin the entire thing halfway through, like you did in redemption.

and don't even get me started on how that ruined online.

>>376185549
*2018

>>376185629
>>376185649
>>376185649
>wahhh optional multiplayer i dont have to play

>>376185629
>caring about multiplayer

>>376185817
If it's so bad, why even waste budget and development time on including it? fuck off, retard.

>>376185649
How was it ruined?

Spring 2018 you mean

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>>376185549

I think you mean >>>

>>376185671


Unless you're saying you'll only be relevant for a few months....no way you're launching before September at the -earliest-

I'm looking forward to you but even if you -are- launching this year you aren't the only game I plan to get

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I hope this shit isn't like V being divided among multiple playable characters. That shit hurt V more than it made it interesting. Story was shallow and underwhelming as a result, and none of the characters felt fleshed out enough.

Hope the online is way different than GTAO was, and that its as comfy as RDR's MP was.

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>>376185549
Real talk, RDR2 looks like the only good Western game to be coming out this year. Why have Western games been so fucking awful this year while Japanese games have been so fucking great?

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>>376185935
>Halfway through singleplayer
>Here, outlaw son. Take this cutting edge, just released this week, $5,000 government restricted prototype gun.
>Game proceeds to take out what little challenge the game had to begin with

Multiplayer
>Just spam the gun, with autolock all you have to do is press LT and then spam RT and you win.
Not to mention how retarded it is in the universe to have petty literally who outlaws running around with cutting edge military/government prototype weaponry

>>376186042
you -must- be autistic

>>376185817
>>376185851
RDR1's singleplayer sucked. Why would the sequel be any better?

>>376186120
Fuck off detail/bait

>>376186120
There isn't even any gameplay.

>>376186195
have a (you), reddibro.

It's multiplayer is going to be integrated into the singleplayer a la Dark Souls. You'll be able to put down a bounty to finish missions.

>>376186065

I was more disappointed that V never got any SP addon shit. Just endless amounts of fucking MP shit nobody bothered with most times.

>>376185549

>direct prequel
>strong hint at being multi-character shit like GTA V

It's gonna be bad.

>>376186201
>detail
silly phoneposter

>>376186319
PLEASE be like this. this would be so cool

unlike dark souls it would actually be fun and not annoying

>>376186252
Redditers would love RDR.

>>376186336
what a retard you must be. have you ever considered using logic in all your life?

>>376185629
>>376185649

multiplayerfags think the world revolves around them, i couldn't care less about multiplayer in something like RDR

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They're pretty blatantly going for the magnificent 7 thing huh? I mean if you're going to rip off anything that's one of the things to rip off but still a little subtly never hurt anyone

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>>376186161
It's a FN model 1903. The game takes place, for the most part in 1911. It ends the year ww1 begins, 1914. Ass tard.

>>376186397
Being contrarian/edge for the sake of it is reddit in the flesh. For most games /v/ doesn't like that reddit does, like skyrim,mgs5,fallout 4, tlou, there are good reasons for it. RDR is a legit good game, and I find little critique in it that isn't nitpicking. It's not groundbreaking but it does everything so well that it's a very enjoyable experience. i will never be able to shit on rdr unlike most other big titles like listed above

>>376185549
>Combat animations won't be nearly as diverse
>There will be less minigames
>Multiplayer will have the most content

I hope I'm wrong, but judging from Rockstar's recent games this will probably be the case.

>>376186473
RDR was pretty mediocre and it most likely being pretty similar to GTAV doesn't bode well for its quality.

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>>376186238
You obviously haven't even played any of these games then.

>>376186537
even then, see

>prototype gun with limited access at the time

makes no fucking sense for the government to just be handing them out to literally who CRIMINALS on top of that

>>376186593

GTAV was great though

>>376186506
>magnificent 7 LITERALLY CREATED people walking in a line, guys!

>>376186506
>gta v character switch with 7 characters
>in an epic gun fight
could be good

>>376186538
RDR is outright bad. It's a bog standard third person shooter at best, with an empty open world with nothing to do in it, and half the missions are escort missions where you slowly listen to some asshole ramble on and on while occasionally shooting some enemies.

RDR barely even qualifies as a videogame. All the games you mentioned, whatever their flaws, are infinitely better games.

>>376186609
It will probably be similar to GTAV but GTAV in a completely different setting and time period could play pretty differently. You shouldn't just assume it will be a GTAV clone and even if it is it's still worth seeing gameplay.

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>>376186707
>empty open world with nothing to do in it
>red dead redemption
>proceeds to imply skyrim or msg5 is any better in that regard

>>376186435

not an argument

>>376186816
I think you replied to the wrong comment anon.

>>376186828
He's wrong to say that the other games are better but RDR's open world was pretty garbage.

>>376186828
Skyrim has plenty to do in it, the problem is that it's very shallow and is dumbed down by design. But RDR is an open world third person shooter so it's hardly innocent in that regard.

MGSV's open world is trash but the core game mechanics were solid which made the missions fun. RDR has terrible missions and the core gameplay is just mediocre third person shooting with archaic guns.

>>376186889
No, all those games are infinitely better than RDR, even the abomination known as Fallout 4.

>>376186707
>"an empty open world with nothing to do in it"
>Night patrols
>Game hunting
>Random encounters
>Gambling
>Bounty hunting

You can say they're not fun, but saying there's nothing to do is outright false.

>>376186882
He's saying we don't need gameplay because it should play the same as GTAV but it's still worth seeing how it plays since it's been 4 years since GTAV.

>>376186593
GTA V was a masterpiece you dumb pleb.

>>376186631
It wasn't a prototype, it was a commercial success. As was the Mauser c93. The borchardt c96 wasn't as common but totally believable, it would have made more sense to have a Luger p08. It's a game about the old west dying.

>>376186951
That's really not a lot of content. It's a few side activities you'll do once or twice. The only fun thing to do there is the gambling, and none of those activities have any real reason to be in the game. They don't enhance what is still a mediocre at best third person shooter.

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>>376186672
>7 people in a line
>They're all cowboys

really, pardner.

>>376186987
>likes GTAV
>calls others plebs

>>376186987
The random open world dickery is pretty fun, but the structured part of the game barely qualifies as a videogame at all.

>>376187019
Got the c96 and c93 switched up, my bad

>>376187040
What in your opinion is an open world game with a lot of content? botw? Elder Scrolls? I'm curious.

>>376186678
the character switch in gta 5 sucked
>finish a gunfight with one character, he starts midfight dialogue as time slows down for your retarded ass to switch
>switch to the other guy, then queue more bad guys spawn for you to shoot

what would be actually fun, badass and cool is if you could switch characters midlevel without queue, like right as you shoot a guy in the head with a revolver you instantly switch over to another character and gun down the baddy standing next to him, all while the original baddie is still falling over with blood coming out. that would be badass. but it wont happen.

>>376186889
>actually atmospheric
>no RETARDED AS FUCk, BORING, POINTLESS "big" open world riddled with "?" on the map like skyrim or witcher 3 filled with unoriginal content
>actually cohesively atmospheric open world
>good mix of interesting side missions, scattered at a good pace compared to travel distance time
>random events scattered around, no bullshit, just brief random events
>minigames

>>376186927
I don't say this much, but you are trying waaaay too hard m8. I don't remember an open world game as cohesively good as RDR that knew when to stop. most other open world games either have boring shit stretched too far too thin, repetitive content, or just uninteresting worlds. RDR is legit a 10/10 when it comes to open world, it only begins to fail in gameplay.

>>376186927
seems like you're largely being an autistic contrarian just for the sake of it instead of having any real point to make

"WAHHH GAME BAD OTHER GAME BETTER" is just about all you can say

>>376186252
not him but I replayed it when it became backwards comaptible on xbone and it really isn't that good. The whole world is bare, you see the same random isntances on the side of the road; whore trying to steal your horse (you get bad reputation if you kill her before she kicks you off but good rep if you kill her after she kicks you off),wagon stolen, station wagon robbed. Missions are always "ride to the gold spot on your map while exposition is fed to you, shoot stuff, then ride back to town"

I guess everyone was just aching for a good western game at the time or something because that shit, even by 2010 standards, was not good.

>>376187159
Those games have a lot more content than RDR, yes. But more importantly you actually have a reason to pursue that content. You'll go hunting or bounty hunting once or twice in RDR, it's not like it's a deep, rewarding system. It's tacked on and half-assed, and always the same.

>>376187217
RDR is the definition of stretched thin. The entire story is filler until around 3/4 of the way in.

>>376187239
I made tons of points. You're just getting pissy because you know deep down that your cowboy simulator isn't actually a good game.

>>376187258
Compared to more recent praised openworld games like the witcher 3, its a god send.

it knew when to stop, but didnt keep things to barren. they did everything as close to perfect as modern open world games can get.

>>376185549
>not on PC
no one important cares

>>376187351
In saying "stretched thin" I was referring to the open world, not the story.

>>376187019
alright /k/ommando, whatever you say. as long as you recognize it made singleplayer boring and completely and entirely broke online.

>>376187494
So you mean that the world isn't too large for it's own good? I suppose that is correct.

>>376187351
literally all you've said over and over is that the world is empty yet you've provided no basis for why you hold that opinion, which is funny considering it's objectively not empty.

the more you post it just seems like you have an autistic obsession with RDR and think of it like the worst game ever or something. you should really at least try to have something to say as a LE CONTRARIAN XDDD faggot instead of just repeating the same non-arguments over and over like a braindead retard

It'll just be Shark™ Pardons and DLC horse retexture packs for multiplayer.

>>376187353
But they didnt, the game kept dragging on after Mexico. AND you have to play as Jack at the end of the game. And thing were VERRY barren, you go to a spot on your map for the hunting quests and you end up sitting around for like 30 minutes for the cougars and bears to spawn.

I haven't played TW3 because I still havent finished 2, but apart from narrative, Breath of the Wild is superior in every way.

>>376187561
Yes. The story relies extremely heavily on the conclusion for the final "punch", but it's still decent throughout. It's not the best part about it. I think the open world is definitely the best part. I still remember almost every single side quest character, and a good bit of the random events 7 years later. I unironically think no open world game has gotten the size-content ratio as good as RDR did. Compare to the witcher 3, with a pretty world full of nothingness and "Are you immersed yet" graphics/skyrim and fallout 4 with their watered down worlds to RDR.

The atmosphere was also top-notch throughout. I love RDR, and while nu-rockstar is mostly trash they did really well with that game and I hope RDR 2 is good as well.

>>376187636
>Because of inflation, in-game currency now cost one dollar per dollar

>>376187591
The world is empty in the sense that there is nothing of value to do in it. There's a bear hunting spot here, a gambling spot here, but none of it meaningfully impacts your playthrough, nor is any of it engaging enough in and of itself to bother pursuing. That's what happens when you're game is an intentionally archaic third person shooter. The core of the game is too weak for any of the content to be meaningful.

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>>376187448

>>376187712
>you have to play as Jack at the end of the game
You mean for the one mission that's unique to him?

also, animals were fucking everywhere. and if you used bait, took 30 seconds tops. dunno what you're on about m8, get checked for adhd.

>>376187748
I see. I don't give a damn how "atmospheric" the world is unless it's built on the back of a good game. RDR is a mediocre game at best. GTAV is even less of a game whenever you're doing structured content, but at least running people over was fun in that game. RDR's open world activities were all boring.

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>>376187764
>m-muh every bullet you buy must visibly affect the fishermen three villages down in twenty years otherwise it's poor world building

go watch 'why fallout 3 is garbage' for the ten millionth time, boring faggot.

>>376187842
No, I mean that you have to play as Jack for the rest of your time playing after John dies. Or did you stop playing the game once the credits started rolling?

>>376187984
>Or did you stop playing the game once the credits started rolling?
Yes, because at the same time the 100% completion achievement popped. I don't even care about achievements and didn't even know I had done everything. I had 30 hours in by then.

>>376187963
Fallout 3 is a much better game than RDR. At the very least it allows you to explore interesting areas and kill things in different ways on different playthroughs. Sure, the writing and worldbuilding is terrible, but it's a much better videogame.

>>376187560
haha btfo kys

>>376187963
>>376188182
Also, I'm not sure why you brought up worldbuilding. I didn't mention worldbuilding. I'm critiquing RDR as a game, not as a walking simulator.

>>376187560
But the double action fires pretty quickly too. the lemat has 9 rounds. Why does the 1903 kill the game?

>>376187712
did you even play the game? the only instance of the game dragging post-Mexico was when you did like 2 ranch-specific chores for Uncle.
>you go to a spot on your map for the hunting quests and you end up sitting around for like 30 minutes for the cougars and bears to spawn.
starting to think you're just baiting, now. any time you hunt anything in RDR the animals spawn nearly immediately. and even if they don't it would take like 10 feet of walking to find them.
>>376187764
seems like you're just butthurt the minigames (which is what they are, fundamentally) included aren't some grand spectacular thing, as if they are in any Rockstar game. do you honestly think it would make single difference if you NEEDED to hunt, or do bounties other than making the game fucking tedious and boring? or, more boring judging by your autistic standards.

it's as if you think the game's purpose is anything other than the core storyline and gameplay throughout it, which has no major flaws outside of having awkward pace at times.

and since i know you're definitely retarded to make the argument of "BUT BUT BUT IT'S A SANDBOX, EVERYTHING IN IT SHOULD BE THE MOST INTERESTING THING EVER, DUHHH", why don't you just accept you're trying to hold the game to this unreasonable hyper-autistic standard that no one else cares about? like you're trying to present your subjective views of lesser game mechanics as they're some factual, critical flaw yet you've never actually brought anything up of merit.

>>376188182
because Fallout 3 is so comparable to RDR? do you have any actual points or is it just gonna be "game bad, boring, wahhh"

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RDR wasn't bad, but outside of killing animals, there wasn't much to do outside of Blackwater or the other major towns/settlements.

One thing I disliked was that stagecoaches took and showed no damage. It was kind of frustrating because for only one mission (the one where you tell the guys to plant landmines in the ground), they explode into pieces when they blow up.

>>376188458
Uh, yeah, when your missions are as bad as Red Dead Redemption's, and your core gameplay so shallow, I would expect your open world minigames to be pretty special. Why else would anyone play the game?

GTAV, when you're playing the missions, arguably doesn't even qualify as a videogame. But there's a lot of stuff to do outside of missions and it's more fun than anything in RDR.

>>376185549
Have R* outright denied a PC Port RDR1?

>>376188062
That is literally not possible. Part of the stranger missions required for 100% is Jack avenging John.

>>376188584
>GTAV, when you're playing the missions, arguably doesn't even qualify as a videogame.
so you are baiting then, ah okay. I guess I should've gathered that from your actual inability to make any points other than "this thing is bad because i say so hehe"

>>376188693
It's not bait. GTAV's missions do not qualify as playing a videogame. When the mission involves a car chase, you're just following the other guy in traffic while the characters ramble on and on until the opponent suffers a scripted car crash. Most of the missions are like this, barely interactive at all. Makes The Last of Us look like the gamiest game ever made by comparison.

>>376188625
San Diego rarely port their games to PC

>>376188629
Stranger missions don't count for 100%.

Besides, when jack kills johns killer IS when the credits roll.

>>376185549
Can't wait.

>>376185549
Then 2017 is fucked.

>Set up free roam session with friends who you know wont cheat
>Pick a town - Blackwater works best
>Everyone goes to their settings and disables minimap and autoaim
>Everyone changes character model to match locals in whatever town you're in
>One person will be Jack the Ripper - they can blend in and can only use their knife, they have to hunt down the other players
>Other players blend in, walk same speed peds do, do anything to blend in. They can fight back but can only use melee or run
>No one can leave too far from the city
>Continue until you have killed all your victims or Jack the Ripper is dead

>>376188790
what an astoundingly retarded post. the entirety of The Last of Us is a bunch of scripted events tied together with no chance whatsoever of anything changing outside of how you kill enemies. same linear shit every single time. what's even dumber about your comparison is how TLOU literally fucking rips you out of the game constantly to force you to stop for some dialogue or a cutscene.

meanwhile in GTA V the majority of the dialogue in the game is presented as happening while you're doing the mission itself so nothing is interrupted. your argument can be summed up as you just being butthurt that not every mission in GTA V has 450 ways of being done.

yet it never occurred to you that, maybe, and this is a big maybe, these games just don't appeal to you and that you should only stick to barebones shit like the garbage Bethesda shoots out. or hey, maybe even something from Ubisoft.

>>376189062
2017 has already justified itself. No games could release from now on and it would still be a better year than most.

>>376189198
This entire post is a non-sequitur. I don't think you at all understood what I was getting at with my post.

>>376189045
>Stranger missions don't count for 100%.
Yes they do
http://www.ireddead.com/guide/reddeadredemption/100-percent-completion-breakdown/

How long do I have to wait until they announce the delay, fuck.

>>376189254
what needs to be understood? you make like your 100th non-point about how GTA V somehow, in your own retarded little world, doesn't count as a video game just because you say so. then you made a very, comically dumb comparison.

I mean I guess games like Mario aren't video games either right? you're always just going through a world then you hop on some turtle dope's head three times in the final level and proceed to the next world. so scripted and unlike a video game XDDDD

>>376188881
Most of the original devs were fired after RDR, and it wouldn't be up to them.

>>376189629
The difference is that in Mario you actually get to hop on the turtle's head. In GTAV the game will present a scenario like a heist or a car chase and then everything will be automated beyond your basic drive to move forward.

It's a game designed for people who have never played a game before.

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>>376185549
>He still thinks this will come out this year

>>376189554
You mean strangers and freaks, retard?

I was referring to the "stranger" with the tophat. That particular side mission branch does not count for 100%. It is the only one that does not.

Even then, yes, it is entirely possible to get the 100% completion as soon as you get jack's revenge, as that is when the story ends and no side content unlocks after story completion. not that difficult to grasp

>>376189645
source
>>376189767
lol okay? by that asinine logic in GTA V you get to manually escape a heist. but I guess making any actual effort to escape from enemies (without all this extra combat mumbo jumbo, who needs that) isn't good enough, right?

it's okay, anon, you can just come out and admit you have an irrational, burning hatred for Rockstar and their games. and you'll never be able to articulate why because you don't know why, as you have repeatedly established.

They will delay it.

>>376186161
Maybe try not playing with auto aim on

NEVER EVER FOR THE NINTENBROS AND PCBROS

>>376190031
http://kotaku.com/5587413/rumor-rockstar-lays-off-40-from-red-dead-redemption-team

>>376190795
>Kotaku
Just copy/paste the article and post it here. Make sure you have AdBlock on.

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>>376188790
Holy hell you are stupid.

I just want to know if it has any songs as good as
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yag41F7eCLU

>>376185549
>game announced a year ago
>no trailers with actual gameplay
>supposedly coming out in 4 months
>Rockstar

SAY IT WITH ME:

2017 NEVER EVER

>>376192671
wow it's almost like rockstar has done this with every game since gta 4 and that it should be expected

>>376192671
Now if only there was some kind of major video game event next month in which they could go full hog to showcase gameplay and shit to get people really hyped up for the game's release in four months...

>>376192886
Damn shame that there isn't though, we'll be stuck arguing inane bullshit till the game comes out.

>>376192671
Normally I would say something like this would be delayed as normal for most AAA devs, but Rockstar hasn't released a new game since 2013, so this game was probably in development since before GTAV's release and that's plenty of development time

>>376186173

>not believing a game will launch in 2017
>being sarcastic

Kid go to bed

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if you dont think RDR2 is gonna be one of the biggest microtransaction filled games in history then youre retarded, Rockstar has made almost 1 BILLION dollars off gta online microtransactions. The old days of Rockstar are over, now their main focus is going to be on how to nickle and dime you every chance they get.

>>376192886
>E3 is just over a month away

Where did the time go?

>>376186120
I fucking love how true this pic is.

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Just a heads up.

/v/ fucking loved RDR when it came out. They would not stop talking about it. RDR story times were the best threads we had.

>>376193435
>youre retarded
>youre

>>376193613
Yes, that is the correct contraction of you are.
>Inb4 I was just pretending

>>376193609
This applies to literally every other game /v/ hates now.

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Explain to me why I should care about this game?

So there's absolutely no way that the game is going to look as good as it did in the trailer right?

>>376193845
Why should I? Stick to your obscure isometric RPGs.

I don't give a shit what /v/ thinks anymore, I remember when I first played RDR it was fucking magical, I had so much fun. I went around hunting animals and selling their meat. I would jump on top of trains and shoot at birds and people. I could rob passerbys on the street. I would complete all the sharpshooter and master Hunter challenges and get unique guns like the Buffalo rifle. I would go gold hunting. I would play black jack and poker and liar's dice, sometimes cheating and getting caught on purpose just so I could duel somebody. And when I was tired of it all I would just go on a complete killing spree and terrorize every town I road into. There are some things that Rdr didn't do right, but you can't say it was empty.

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>>376185817
>>376185851
Niggas, they are focusing on MP more than SP after GTA Online success
Insiders even say that SP is an afterthought

>>376193845
Why did you open this thread, write that down, do the shitty captcha, and wait for the cooldown?

>>376193814
Truly, we are not the forward thinking titan we think we are, we must merely be his foolish brother.

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>>376185629
fpbp

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>>376185549
More like leave 2017 to me

>>376193613
damn YOURE dumb, i hope YOURE baiting but i bet YOURE that retarded

>>376194275

I came here to post his.

>>376186707
>GTA V is outright bad. It's a bog standard third person shooter at best, with an empty open world with nothing to do in it, and half the missions are escort missions where you slowly listen to some asshole ramble on and on while occasionally shooting some enemies.

I'm starting to see a pattern

>>376185549
Borke my rule of never pre-ordering for this game.

>>376185817
The issue is that, assuming they follow GTA V's lead, R* will devote a fuckton of resources for the optional multiplayer bullshit and it will eventually become the focal point while the single player aspect never gets updated. Remember how great Undead Nightmare was? Don't expect another DLC like that. Instead, here's some chrome plated horses and golden sombreros you can buy for 50,000 R* funbux (which is 50 USD).

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>>376194275
>implying slants make good games

Holy shit so many reddit fags shilling this fucking terrible game. Go back to 9gag you niggers

>>376186537
Hi-Power is a pistol

>>376187560
>LeMat Revolver>HPP
you a shit

Bets on this following Blood Meridian?

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>>376186120
i don't give a FUCK who made a game. if a game is good it's good. i'm sick of all this useless banter about "haha japan is betteR" or "fuck you america is better at games!" dude just shut the fuck up and look at a game for being that, a fucking game.

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>>376195946
Something something Bone Tomahawk.

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>>376194958

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>>376186120
>to be coming out this year.
Haha no

>>376192886
but rockstar never shows shit off at e3

Can I play as a girl?

>>376199225
I always make sure to avoid all contact with guys that play as girls in games

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>>376199225
go home gamer girl

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>yfw it will release on PC
>yfw PC version will have first person mode

100% it will be 2018

Also not really happy with the focus on MP again, the story will suffer because of it

If you haven't played hardcore mode on red dead then you haven't played it

Too bad it was only on the game of the year edition

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>>376188790
This. GTAV was like mini-games the game. I have no fucking idea why people keep buying that garbage. People shit on tlou for being a movie but it honestly feels more like a game than that shitheap called GTAV.

>>376199462
>consoles
>Free aim
>ON THIRD PERSON SHOOTERS
>with horrible unresponse shooting

hardcore is literally fedora mode on any rockstar game, why would you do that, that shit is only acceptable with mouse and keyboard

>>376199225
Women didn't exactly get up to much in the Old West.

>>376185549
If this game isn't going to be on Pc, it's automatically shit in my eyes.

>>376199524
>WHAAAAAAAAAA CONTROLLERS

Git gud you fucking scrub

>>376199524
>>376199567
>being this mad
Have you sigh that petition yet?

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>>376199569
>git gud
>using a method that literally is counter intuitive and awkward/flimsy as hell
>makes every game boring and an awkward clumsy struggle

no, I get good at PC shooters aim, not third person console shooters. literal fucking retard. hardcore is for people that have too slow reaction times for regular mode so they switch to something where everybody sucks equally.

>>376199632
>>376199657 here. What? I play both PC and console.

>>376199567
I'm not gonna wait a whole year to play this on pc if it even does get a port. By the time it releases, I'll probably have a ps4 pro meaning I don't have to miss out on any console exclusives/Sony exclusives. I still want my kingdom hearts 3 too.
I'll get used to playing at 30fps I guess. It sucks having to adapt back to lower framerates but it's not too bad.

>>376199657
>using a method that literally is counter intuitive and awkward/flimsy as hell
Doesn't stop you from gitting gud


>too slow reaction times for regular mode so they switch to something where everybody sucks equally.

Now you're just pulling shit out of your ass because if you're not quick you get lit the fuck up
>insert argument about the game turning into a cover shooter at that point
No just be quick

I play PC and consoles but fuck pc players are a bunch of candy ass roody-poos.

>>376199825
>Doesn't stop you from gitting gud
Neither does cutting your fingers or hands off but that also isn't ideal.

>>376188790
>IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A CAR CHASE, IT'S JUST A CHARACTER FOLLOWING A MARKER

You're aware that you could apply that logic to literally every single video game, right?

You're always just a character achieving win conditions. The point of a good game is to make that process fun, which GTA and RDR do.

>>376199825
Mate, "hardcore" does not actually make it challenging. That's just a cute title to make people feel tough and compelled to try it.

Every single "hardcore" lobby on red dead/GTA was just awkward and embarrassing missed shots and abuse of non-precision projectile weapons. It's literally not possible to "Get good" at, because the controller is horrible for precision shooting and will never adapt to that. You can convince yourself you got better than the controller allows, but that's physically impossible. It's just clumsy as fuck and you're a boring, slow reactioned retard for falling for it - because guys that played "hardcore" reguarly and then went to normal lobbies get destroyed each time out of pure lack of reaction time - though when vice versa, it's usually just the same skill level. I hate this pointless waste of money mode.

>>376199872
Ok, go play RDR on your pc then

Oh wait....

>>376200151
>You weren't good or having fun, it's just an illusion.

My god PC fags are the worst and this is coming from a primarily pc player

>>376193435

It's for certain if one microtransaction fest can sell over 50 million with no real blowback it's guaranteed to get in all their games.

People will be paying real money for wagons.

>>376200247
>You weren't good

yeah, you weren't. the controllers are literally impossible to use for precision aiming. like physically, not from lack of "skill".

you mightve had fun, but it was probably heigthened from the illusion that you were h4rdc0re for playing a retard mode.

again see the fact that regular "hardcore" players go to normal and get destroyed each time, before bitching about how "casual" this is and going back to their pleb safe spot.
And I'm a primary console user at this point too, so don't pull le pc elitism card on me.

>>376189767
By that logic, Mario is also flawed in that you're only presented with the option of progressing.

In GTA V and Mario you CAN hang around the start zone of an area, but nothing will happen. Guess that makes them bad games, right?

It sounds to me that you have a very blinkered view to game design and don't like a lot of it.

Maybe you should stick to watching films, though you probably wouldn't like them either because the plot doesn't advance if you decide to press pause.

>>376200151
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NO RED HARLOW
NO BUY

>>376200151
>It's literally not possible to "Get good"

that's just bad game design, gta has always had terrible shooting mechanics but a game like mgs5 has near perfect shooting mechanics even with controllers

>>376185549
>leave jobbing to me

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>>376200404
>the controllers are literally impossible to use for precision aiming.