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What went wrong? did it have to go so wrong?

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What went wrong?
did it have to go so wrong?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3EQApgrCwU
we can all agree this is how the plant chicks cum, right?
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Procedural dirt colors.
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The Early Access

Everything else went right. The game is pretty good desu, and it has been updated regularly. Also there is a nice mod community.
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It tried to do too much and failed at all of it.

It has pretty good reviews on Steam for some reason though.
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>>376183629
>Also there is a nice mod community.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9FEjU-nBtQ
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Yeah, I don't see a problem with it now. The early access had a 10 month gap of nothing people were pissed at, but the final release was pretty good.
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>>376183629
>>376184172
>Everything else went right. The game is pretty good desu
This isn't a shitposting thread, anons.
Nothing can justify removing massive amounts of content right before release, with nothing to replace them.
Nothing can justify completely rewriting your lore because a few people said "boohoo I don't like genocide"
Nothing can justify a massive gap of literally abandoning the game.
Nothing can justify how long it took for anything worthwhile to be added, before, during, and after that huge gap of literally nothing.
Nothing can justify leaving an entire race unfinished.
And nothing can justify the main story.
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everything
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>>376182349
it tried being an over ambitious terraria clone with many hit and misses
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>>376184172
It had a two year gap bro.
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>>376184309
>Buying the game after Early Access
>All these stuff I didn't care
>The game is pretty alright as it is.
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>>376184829
>haha i got it after so it all its failures don't matter
Fuck off.
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>tfw the game sucked so much there's not much porn
>the hot as fuck modded species won't get any either
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>>376184829
This. Fuck all retards buying a game crying "zomg the game isn't finished wtf!"
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>>376185429
see >>376184958
The "finished" game you bought after early access isn't finished. Again, a shit ton of content was removed right before the game came out. You bought an unfinished product, stop lying to yourself.
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http://blog.chucklefish.org/starbound-health-check/
Tiy has always been so full of shit.
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The real problem?
Terraria is RIGHT THERE, a golden guide on how to do this sort of game right
They refused to learn from it.

If they had made LITERALLY TERRARIA in space with aliens, it would have been great.

That said, the quests are dumb. the dungeons are fine, but the whole game's main quest is "go scan shit, now go to a dungeon. now go scan shit. now go to a dungeon. now go scan shit. now go to a dungeon. ect. Now go fight this final boss."

There's good concepts there. The idea of having open worlds as well as restricted dungeons is great. Having towns full of npcs is great. Having the furnishings of the homes you build affect which npcs you get is great. Being able to pick different races is a great idea.

They just scuffed it up bad by making the scope too small. What point is INFINITE PLANETS!!!!! if they all feel the same? Terraria got it right by just making it a single island with varied biomes.
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>>376186569
Will terraria ever be topped?

I maintain it's one of the best games ever made in all honesty.
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>>376185112
>tfw used to write smut for the game back in /sbg/ long before release
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>>376186669
Tetris.
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>>376186710
You can't just bring up god when you're talking about men
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>>376186669
>Will terraria ever be topped?
Hopefully by Terraria 2.
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>>376186671
PLEASE link some
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>>376186669
I really hope it will be, one day. But it's a tall mountain to climb.

The thing is, terraria didn't even start out all that great. Remember when it was just 3 bosses, 4 major biomes, chests had half the size they do now, and you couldn't walk up single blocks?

Over time, the devs just added more and fixed plenty of things. maybe if chucklefish got their shit together, they could fix starbound in the same way. But it's been too long and the chances of that are slim.
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>>376182349
They shoved in an absolutely shit story. Out of ALL the options that are out there they had to choose the one that saturday morning cartoons won't even stoop to anymore.

Also it's a perfect example of mile wide 2inches deep and has to be saved by mods. Shit combat where you take damage on touch. Shit gearing that is all based around tiny damage increases for each planet tier, almost all differences between planets are removed with the proper EPP pack that covers EVERYTHING, jack all interactivity on planets (no bosses to summon, no events happen ever), and 1/2 of the game revolves around "scanning" the environment as filler quests.


The games not horrible. It's a giant disappointment.
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>>376182828
This is what comes out of my asscheeks when I sit on the toilet
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>>376186813
I'm pretty sure that's a spin-off game. It's not meant to be terraria, it's meant to be inspired by terraria.
>>376186859
That's one of the reasons it's so amazing. Because the devs give a shit, it went from decent to godtier.
The devs still give a shit, after all this time. Helps it a shit ton in making it so amazing.
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>>376186669
Terraria Otherworld, when it comes out in 2030.
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>>376186813
>Terraria 2
>being released in our lifetimes
We'll get Otherworld in forty, fifty years if we're lucky.
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>>376186880
>Shit gearing that is all based around tiny damage increases for each planet tier

What really slaps me on the dick here
>get to tier 6
>finally get different armor options for stat specialization, can be either tankier, do more damage per hit, or have higher energy
>finally a call to make some choices about your gameplay needs and diversify your character's playstyle
>oh wait perfect armor exists and it's just the best stats of each of those armors.

Terraria lets you do different playstyles, so are bare minumum, you could do 4 different playthroughs and still have a fresh look on the game during each since you have to adapt to the way you use those different weapons

In starbound, the only reason to replay is to see different race's lore text. And you can just look that up on the starbound wiki to save your time.
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I still can't believe CF blew a huge chunk of their money to fucking move to London.
After 1 hit that wasn't even released yet, why would you act like you were in the big leagues? Better to polish the shit out of it and build a name. Just baffles me, not even sure why someone would let them publish their game when you can just go through steam yourself.
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What happened to the puppy?
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>>376182349
everything

the only thing that went right was the music and the bird and plant tiddies
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Reminder that Terraria is STILL updating with player suggested stuff
can devs be more based?
http://i.imgur.com/LkKpFJc.png
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>>376187434
I'd imagine it got sent to the pound when they realized how much work is involved in taking care of a puppy. Can only hope since dogs are known for chewing on things and they kept it near fucking exposed powerbars.
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i still regret buying this game, thanks for the remind
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well for starters they didn't do anything cool with the space setting and the game is a cheap bootleg of terraria, even down to the playstyles being ranger/wizard/melee
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>>376187514
>Music
Which they also removed, right? Didn't they have music from Toby Fox that ended up never being in the game?
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>>376184309
give me a source on that vampire
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>>376186969
>I'm pretty sure that's a spin-off game.
You might be thinking of Terraria: Otherworld. There's that, and then there's Terraria 2, which would be separate and (presumably) a true sequel to Terraria.
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>>376188160
there's a terraria 2?
But they're still updating this one
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>>376187519
They should add a metal/cyber hardmode biome to offset the crimson's organic nature. It feels out of place between corruption and hallow.
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>>376188484
Terraria is still being updated randomly.
Terraria 2 has been put on hold so he can help out the Otherworld team that's been having huge issues.
Terraria Otherworld will be the next one released. The patch with the tower defense bits was testing Otherworld mechanics.
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>>376188484
Yeah, Redigit has said Terraria 2 is planned to come out after Otherworld. I dunno' how hard he's working on Otherworld at the moment, but I believe he's off development of Terraria 1, leaving it up to others to keep updates rolling. So it's probably safe to assume that Terraria 2 is faaaaaar down the road, like >>376187129 and >>376187182 implied. But Redigit has announced plans for Terraria 2, tho I'm unsure to what degree of officialism.
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>>376188484
>>376188803
Also, I'd assume Terraria 1 will still be getting updates even after Otherworld comes out. Likely some throwbacks, like new Otherworld-inspired content being added to Terrara 1.
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>>376183629
the mod community is dead as shit and never did anything substantial
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>>376189079
>All those new races
>Frackin Universe
>All those mods pandering fetishes
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>>376189176
> all this avian long cock mod
>all this vore mods
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>>376189176
>new races
>99% entirely cosmetic

>>376189079
The ammo mod was great. Too bad it died when CF bought it from the creator.
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>>376190094
>sandbox building game
>pretending for a moment that cosmetics are not important
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>>376182349
it's actually p good desu atm
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>>376190094
>>99% entirely cosmetic
There is Frackin Races for that
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>>376184309
Serious question: Why do you people say "desu" ever?

You do know it does nothing but make you look like a gigantic faggot, right? Why has this become a thing again?
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>>376184309
>things that didn't happen
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>>376190246

because newmoot likes his word filters desu
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>>376190246
worldfilters desu baka senpai
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>>376190246
>Being this fucking newfag
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>>376182349
They fucked up their development schedule. What they pushed into Early Access as an "alpha" title was what the original game was going to be, according to a progress page they used to have up. Features were all over the place, with fan favorite techs and survival mechanics being removed and never being fully reimplemented. There were some great content drops, like the 2014/15 Winter Update, but they didn't arrive until after a huge dry spell. This only caused people to want to have a completed game sooner, and more things, such as the better, lighter story were dropped.

All in all, they completely lost their audience almost right out of the gate. A lot of the features that were improved, like how "random" generations actually became well structured, weren't really noticeable to anyone outside of the game. What they did throw in the player's face was a twist of their expectations, like Survival coming back as an item-drop difficulty, the story missions becoming Chosen One and Ancient Evil, and unique racial features being almost exclusively aesthetic. Honestly, there's still enough to enjoy from it, but most of the game ended up half realized and sold to people that rightfully didn't want it anymore.
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>>376188048
Yupiel-sama no Geboku
Yupiel-sama to no Nichijou
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>>376182349
It fucked up hard. Rather than doing Terraria stuff like adding meaningful content they make sure all the furniture has half a paragraph of text and shoehorn a stupid fucking story killing all forms of roleplay. And my god the enemy designs suck balls. Half the things don't even look like they're a threat and the other half look like shitty, chinese Pokemon reject sprites. There's not even any spreadable biomes for fuck sakes.
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cutting all the cool roleplay shit from the final game
>instead of unique intros for each race, you get to be a nobody cadet for the human-lead diversity alliance
>cool racial lore like hylotl hating florans for muh 6 million dead lizard-fish, florans being xenophobic cannibals, humans being hyper militaristic, starship troopers-style, all cut in favor of hand holding drum circle peace forever
>no more unique dialogue for each race
>no unique racial shit at all beyond the ships; avians get shot on site trying to enter avian temples
>humans have no fucking presence beyond RV camps despite that making literally zero sense
>no unique racial abilities
>a lot of the cool, overpowered tech cut
>you don't have to sheathe weapons in towns or else they turn hostile anymore
>you have to destroy like 3 whole houses before towns turn hostile if you want to attack them

And that's not including the issues with gameplay itself
>environmental hazards reduced to a single backpack you upgrade to protect from everything
>more dangerous star systems not actually all that dangerous; higher tier enemies do more damage but you have higher tier armor to protect from the higher damage so you're basically MMO grinding with nothing to show for it
>ship upgrading is only cosmetic past like the second upgrade which gives you plenty of room for your stuff
>crew is useless
>exploration is pointless because if you've seen one planet of x biome you've seen them all
And to top it all off
>mods focus on cheap fetish bait, furry races and nude mods instead of attempting to fix any of this
>only one mod, frackin universe, focuses on gameplay
>it's a cobbled together mess

it's still a pretty game that's fun for building autism, and I got my 15 bucks worth out of it, but I'm mad about the wasted potential
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>>376190246
Kys desu senpai
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>>376182349
The combat was pretty awful and my largest complaint was that it never changed, only the numbers increased. Meanwhile, in terraria every tier of weapon usually had a unique mechanic besides higher numbers. That and the planets didn't have that much unique content to themselves.

I did enjoy the art style a lot more than terraria though, decorating my ship was probably my favorite part in all of starbound
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>>376182349
I'm actually amazed Terraria managed to make better spacey monsters than a fucking space centered clone game while also having a better, miniscule story. How much more sad can you get?
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>>376190526
Remember when they said the beta would have stages, but then skipped straight from stage 1 to release?
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>>376189176
>remember everyone sperging out about how FU is a mansatory god tier mod
>add it
>it's a staple Minecraft microcrafting cancer that 999 crafting stations that make ingredients to make ingredients to make ingredients to make a machine that makes ingredients and occasionally some shitty gun orclothes no one cares about
yawn
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>>376182349
The game was shit. And because of that not enough attention for porn and super cute florans.
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>>376191819
This kinda. it does add more places to explore and such, but anyone familiar with minecraft's modscene will instantly recognize the science aspect of FU for what it really is. it's just FTB tier craftgrind.

That said, the stuff you get is more useful than what you get in mc. At least you do get kind of neat weapons. In mc, you grind materials for the sake of it. It's bullshit.
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>>376183989
You really have to wonder how the people who made this mod could have finished it without jerking themselves off into a coma.

Really activates the almonds.
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>>376190978
Moon Lord isn't really spacey as much as he is just following the rest of the game's eldritch theme. The only ones from the Lunar Events, or really the entire game, that are decently space themed are the ones around the Vortex Pillar, but they're definitely well designed. The rest from the other pillars don't really stand out too much from the rest of the bestiary, and Martian Madness doesn't even apply.
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It promised too much, delivered too little
Then cut half of what they had already made just to recycle it into some shitty story
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>>376192262
All the Celestial pillars are pretty well spacey themed. Especially Nebula and Solar. Also what the hell do you mean Martian Madness doesn't apply? The rntire fucking event is martians invading with flying saucers and walkers.
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>>376192670
Martian Madness doesn't really apply when we're talking about quality sprites, as the only one that actually looks decent is the War of the Worlds fighting machine. Meanwhile, the Nebula and Solar Pillars don't really strike out from the rest of the bestiary as Vortex. It's the only one that really is alien, both in design and to the setting.
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>Traversing randomly generated dungeons was the one good part of beta Starbound
>Final release removed them in favor of pre-built dungeons you cannot edit or build in
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>>376182349
>play game for first time last year
>enjoy it
eh
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>>376193624
What is there to enjoy though? Besides the porn everything is fucking horrible.
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>>376194261
I dunno, I like the exploring and grinding stuff
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>>376194316
Well if you like exploration just play Terraria and load up new worlds and if you like grinding for actual meaningful shit you can do that in you guessed it, Terraria.
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>>376194420
never played it
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>>376194420
what if you like building? other than corner blocks, terraria doesn't have much of anything on starbound there
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>>376194515
Well go play it. Dirt cheap, overflowing with content and can spend hundreds of hours digging, fighting and building. Also lots of cool weapons for 4 classes and one subclass.
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>>376194647
Is there shit like the grappling hook in it
that was that great stuff
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>>376194638
Bullshit. You just need imagination with the right items and you can create buildings and objects from a completely different games.
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>>376194794
Starbound's creative variety that you get from shamelessly copying the architecture already in the game trumps what terraria can achieve even with balls to the wall autism.
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>>376194647
>That webm
But really, does that biome serve any purpose?
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>>376194638
With the right kind of mindset, you can pull of some real nice builds in terraria

I will say, building in starbound is a lot more fluid, and I would say it's the better game for comfy base making.
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Space Stations when? I want to build my autism fort in space
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>>376195046
It's a marble biome. Higher treasure and life crydtal inside and also to get nice looking marble blocks and javelins from hoplites. Medusas are a real fucking pain in the ass in it. And hoplites hit like a god damn fraight train, also very accurate.
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>>376195009
But the pre-built architecture in Starbound is extremely shitty compared to things made by the most creative Terraria turbo autists though.
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>>376195406
Have you seen the Hyotl Rapture Towns?
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>>376185531
>a shit ton of content was removed right before the game came out.
And you know why that was right? Because the ONLY coder the chucklefuck team had decided to quit, and in his own words "Only shitty developers need to comment their coding" so the new hires couldn't make heads or tails of his cobbled together chickenscratch coding, thus having to re-write large portions of the game from scratch.
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>>376195406
I mean, you're not wrong, most of the pre-built stuff in starbound is pretty lame, but my point is taking the architectural styles and building on them yourself gets you cooler shit than either of these
>>376194794
>>376195138
(though not to hate, that temple thing is really creative)
without having to pour your autism into figuring out which blocks to use where to get a certain look.
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>>376190246
Do you want to know how I know you are new desu?
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Starbound is a good idea done poorly, mods have came close to fixing almost every fuck up chucklefish has made with the game but still. You don't give Beth a pass for their shit thanks to modders and you should not do the same for chucklefucks

BUT!
I have played Terraria, I have gotten the shiny pink glove and became a fucking wizard. I think I generally played all the content the game has and yet I don't understand how people can ride Red's dick so hard over the game
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>>376198379
>fucking wizard
>Not becoming a glorious Sun God with unlimited sun sticks and a burning chain
Get the fuck off my planet
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>>376198575
It was my first and only playthrough, went full mage and fuck finding that magical flower
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>>376198678
Bitch, if you're not going for the set with glorious flaming wings and a chain-sword that can bisect anything it touches, something isn't right in your head
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>>376199191
Melee is shit at the start and near the end it becomes "magic with a sword shaped wand", that shit is dumb. I already started on magic so farming for melee items would be a new headache
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