Railroad or Institute?

The ending is the same, who cares.

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>>376181002
Neither
AVE, TRUE TO CAESAR

>>376181141
LEGIONFAGS GO AWAY
NCR STRONK

>>376181002
>Hey Railroad/Brotherhood, turns out I'm now the leader of the Institute, we can make them do whatever the fuck we want!
>WE MUST DESTROY INSTITUTE
>dude what, let's just make them do whatever we want
>NO YOU MUST BLOW IT UP
>o-ok

>>376181002
If you become the ruler of the institute why not just shut down the android factory? There's power supply rationing problem so the other branches would support your decision.

>>376181002
>not minutemen
whatever, go railroad
>>376181141
>not yes man
>not ncr
what a faggot. nice job choosing the half-baked option for the sake of being edgy

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>>376181246
>Emil wanted the player to be able to kill Maxson and take over the BoS because he hates synths
>the only reason they didn't do it was because they're too lazy to stop the BoS soldiers bitching about synths

>>376181350

The Institute makes the Think Tank look like good scientists

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>>376181286
A better question is "why the fuck are they making androids with AI that makes them indistinguishable from humans in order for them to do menial labor when Mr Handy robots already exist and are more effective"

>Joined Railroad
>Halfway through, realised that they were a bunch of retards
>Joined Brotherhood instead
>Bro as fuck besides the Synth/ Ghoul hate

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>>376181141
>>376181378
Legion is literally the best choice for humanity's future, specifically BECAUSE it's unsustainable

I prefer the Uninstall faction

>>376181002
>Hippies or Idiots?
Brotherhood was the correct answer. Technology should be controlled, not roaming free.

>>376181350
Reminding Codsworth can choose to abandon the player and completely defy his programming and essentially achieving sentience

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>>376181002

Maybe going full true neutral fag is a good idea

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>>376181442
To be fair, Think Tank was able to remove your brain yet still keep you fully functional, I'd say that's a pretty fucking good accomplishment

>>376181549
M8 you're preaching to the choir
>NCR sacrifices long term sustainability for short-term comfort
>House sacrifices humanity for the stars
>Legion sacrifices the weak to make humanity strong
It's a no-brainer

>>376181562
bp

>>376181587
If the Master had the sense to make sure if his Super Mutants weren't sterile, their plan might've not been so shit.
There's also the matter of a good chunk of them being essentially retarded.

>>376181002
I went Institute, even if they are kinda shit, but it is FO4 so ALL the fucking factions are shit except maybe Minutemen, and that is mostly because Minutemen are all over your dick since you do fucking EVERYTHING for them, atleast the other ones have some fucking agency and not TOTALLY reliant..

>>376181286
Bethesda Writing

>>376181571
>Technology should be controlled, not roaming free.

wew

>>376181812
Well. In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. Keeping them retarded wouldn't be bad.

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>>376181880
I know, it's such a genius strategy, right?

>>376181246
that's bethesda writing in a nutshell though

>pick x
>WE MUST DESTROY Y
>wait why
>NO YOU MUST BLOW IT UP
>o-ok

>>376181620

Expect the parts about making weird animal hybrids just for kicks and the fact they made extreme weather experiments which made another faction of NCR/Legion rejects who had their skin ripped off

>>376181940
I've always wondered what was up with that animation.
Is that supposed to look like he's taking a break from hammering or what?

>>376181979
What other Bethesda games do that

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um guys it's obvious that bethesda are super smart and really thought about it which is why everyone seems dumb in Fallout, not that bethesda are bad writers or anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsx87LxrxOs

>>376182230
No clue. The thought process behind Bethesda animation is as mysterious as that of the ones behind Andromeda.

>>376181979
Not really, Fallout 4 was their first game where you get to actually choose a faction. Unless you count Skyrim where it matters even less.

>>376181002
>>376181117
Railroad because its name matches Bethesda's creative direction for Fallout

>>376182268
holy shit that fucking video is obnoxious

>>376182230
It's probably stuck blending two animations together, coupled with a little random tilting here and there

>>376181002
Brotherhood of Steel, faggot.

>>376182340
And it was the only part with choices. Nothing else had even a minimal amount of effort put into it. Nothing. Not a fucking thing.

>still havent gone back to this game because of how much a fucking hassle it is with mod limits
>Every fucking mod author needs to make 10 different mods you need to install just to get 1 actual mod working
>15 different patch plugins
>shit still crashes

>>376182046
The deal with the Think Tank is that they are in their current CRAZY incarnations less Scientists and more SCIENCEtists, they are just to crazy too operate as normal ones now, even if they have the technical know how, they have the skills, but are too crazy to make use of it or have real ambitions to it or go about it, they COULD make the wasteland better if they just had someone to reign them in and give their shittier ideas a "No-go" hence why Courier taking over is a good thing, (you) can give them direction to hopefully act as a semblance of normal scientists again and do actual useful Science instead of risky SCIENCE.

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>>376181002
neither, the Brotherhood of Steel all the way.

>>376181141
I sense heresy...

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>>376182268
>That faggot's face slapped on random images
>His obnoxious tone of voice

I wanted to watch all the way through just to have a proper argument, but holy shit I can't stand this guy.

>>376182046

The marked men were pretty metal

To bad they were all aggressive

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>>376182268
Speaking of guns.
Oh, and Mat is a fucking retard. Or he does a really good job at pretending to be one.

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>>376181002
NCR or BrotherHood. Fuck the railroad, robots don't have rights especially in the post nuclear world. Fuck the institute for making robots that can suffer, and think they are human. Fuck you kid for ruining the game.

>>376181002
Railroad at least until you get that armor mod that gives you +100 damage resistance and energy resistance for your clothing.

>>376182735
You can't pretend to be a retard. You either are or aren't. From how he acted in that video, it's clearly the former.

>>376182735
>>376182606
I have no idea what celebrity deaths in 2016 and pessimism about 2017 have to do about fallout but that's when I stopped watching, I did however skip the intro music. Does this guy make some good points or is it inane bable backed by nothing?

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>>376181002
god bless the enclave

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>>376182921
>when two separate factions in the game are so bland in visual design you end up conflating the two

>>376183209
I had watched some of his stuff before and no, there are no good points, ever.
And now I actually want to watch that video just to see how stupid it is. Thanks, I guess.

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>Dude let's make robots that have sentience, can feel emotions, and act pretty much exactly like humans so we can enslave them and use them as weapons lmao

Nevermind the fact that the Institute threw Asimov's laws of robotics out the fucking window, what was the point of creating synths when robots can already do what synths do?

>>376183404
Huh?

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>>376181620
Listen, that whole dlc was one of my faves but the Think Tank was literally designed to be useless bumbling scientist who didn't do anything useful. They were DESIGNED a joke since they were an offshoot self-contained dlc, but they still were able to create new tech and be taken somewhat seriously as scientist. The Institution was the main focus of the game, played completely straight-faced, and manage to be shittier.
Unrelated note: Everytime I see this fucker I think of Maxson. Anyone Else?

>>376183462
Autism.

>>376183370
eden is a faggot. autumn's plan would have worked. and i will never not be mad that i want able to have the option to join the enclave. fuck you and your shitty writing todd...

>>376183489
consider the BoS in 4 were based off of facists and nazis, it's not surprising

The harshness of the Legion is required for humanity's survival.
Enclave is the second best option. Screw Fallout 2 for not giving you the option to side with them and running around the Wasteland with Frank Horrington.

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>>376183468
sorry meant to type

>two separate factions from two separate games are so bland you mix the two in your head

Minute men are a different faction from the NCR.

>>376181350
What happened to the Shi?

>>376182442
Yeah. It's supposed to be an ambient animation so the dude doesn't sit completely still, but they couldn't be fucked to actually do that.

>>376183462
The really dumb thing is how deep in denial they all are that the synths are sentient.
>I-It's just a malfunction!
I mean it IS a malfunction because they weren't supposed to become sentient but just because you did something by accident doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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>Going Railroad
>"we have the blow up the institute"
>What what fucking why what
>"cuz"
>Kill them all because the institute has tech that could be a boon for humanity
>Talk to sunny boy
>lol we don't care about the surface world. I'm gonna die now and leave you in charge but not actually have any power to do anything

God damn this pissed me off so much.

>>376183791
>Frank ever running around with a dirty mutie like you

WHY THE FUCK DID THE INSTITUTE TRY TO MAKE ROBOTS WHEN WE ALREADY HAD ROBOTS ANYWAYS
WHAT THE FUCK TODD

>>376183838
No I was actually saying the NCR would be better. I know they weren't in the game but if they marched all the way across the states, broken and tired they would still be better leaders. I forgot the Minute men existed honestly.

>>376183489
>Everytime I see this fucker I think of Maxson. Anyone Else?
Probably one of the reasons I liked Maxson so much. He's no Rockwell or Dr. Pierce. But hey, beggars can't be choosers.

>>376183927
>Going BoS
>hey dude kill the railroad
>wait why
>cuz synths lel

fuck off

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>>376181002
Institute for fast travel to a convenient location in survival mode. Also for classical radio.
It feels so dead and lifeless there, though.

>>376182340
>Fallout 4 was their first game where you get to actually choose a faction

Morrowind exists, you double nigger

>>376184049
Why the hell do you torture yourself like this

>>376183975
they want to be the commonwealth but there incompetence wont let them.

>>376183845
As far as I know the last thing we've heard about them chronologically is that they were still active when Kellogg's kid was born, but I'm not sure when exactly that was.

>>376184001
I feel like the BoS was done pretty well this game. Like a good mix of west coast and east coast BoS. I also fucking hated them

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>>376182340
Nigga you jokin right?

>>376183845
Bethesda doesn't know the Shi exists because they never played any of the games

>>376184078
Romances really, Piper is worth it
I'm seeing nat every night while Piper sleeps

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>>376181141
GET THE FUCK OUT LEGION SCUM BEFORE I HAVE MY ROBOTS PHYSICALLY REMOVE YOU

>>376183974
>implying I wasn't pure enough to enter Vault City by just taking the test
>implying the Vault Dweller's descendant wasn't of pure stock and unfazed by radiation.
I got complimented by Doran too. Do you know how hard that is to do, MAGGOT! DROP AND GIVE ME 50!

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>>376184001
>going Minutemen
>hey dudes we're going to kill the Institute because I run this shit and I fucking say so
>we're also going to leave the Railroad alone because fuck you, I say so
>Brotherhood are fine for now but they better watch their shit or it's artillery time
Truly the best option

>side with Railroad
>get SynthKidShaun at end
>Railroad chick says lol fuck that it's not your son let's just let it die

>side with Brotherhood
>get SynthKidShaun at end
>Brotherhood chick says OMG ITS YOUR SON HES REAL YOU SHOULD LOVE HIM FOREVER WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO ABANDON HIM YOU SICK FUCK

dude what

>>376181378
minutemen is cancer as well as most of 4

Does joining the brotherhood lose me any followers? Just started playing this again.

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>>376184324
>Blowing up the Institute for literally no reason

>>376184171
They're the bet faction because they actually have real goals and a personality. They're retarded, but a step in the right direction

>>376184394
yeah, the nigger synth i guess

How different of a game would FO4 have been if Obsidian made it?

>>376184447
why you being racist to a robot ?

There is a way to end the game totally neutral. The best way

>>376184497
Robots are not people

>>376184402
They're actively killing innocent people and also I have a personal vendetta against their leader.
>b-but the technology
I don't want my last words to Shaun to be "I'm taking all your shit and will use it to help people" and I want them to "I'm burning all your shit to the ground, have fun in hell."

>>376184418
True. but they're also a bunch of assholes and I've hated them since Fallout 1. Felt p good blowing up their blimp

>>376184447
I think there's a mod to change that and make all the coursers look like your character. (because they're made with your character's dna after all)

is there a way to destroy every faction in this game

>>376183753
>The quasi Nazi faction in Fallout 4 are the most down-to-Earth and the least retarded

God damn.

>>376184483
It's hard to say since the entire story would have to be scrapped and restarted since there's no redeeming factors to it at all

>>376184483
Probably be a silent protag and a little less main story focused, but otherwise I don't think it would really be that different.

>>376184594
I think so with nuka world

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I still don't fully understand the institute, what was their overall goal? They make synths and this helps why?

>>376184661
You can't really "destroy" the Minutemen even then. Preston will get super pissed at you but you're still in charge. They have to be unkillable because they're the Yes Man option. They exist so you can't completely break the MQ.

>>376184325
You can explain to the BoS lady that it's a robot designed to look like your son, and she says pretty much the same thing the Railroad girl says.

>>376184616
>implying Nazi ideology is not the best way to get humanity back to its prime after a nuclear war.
Come on. Even in Metro: Last Light they were better than the Red Line.

>>376184402
Institute are murdering people for fun and replacing them with Synths.

FOR NO REASON

AT ALL

>>376184325
I hated that bit because I was with Curie and she would've hated me if I left him behind

Honestly I just wanted that shit dead so my character could be free again. Being a parent is a mistake. Being a parent in a wasteland is a double mistake.

>>376184821
But it's fun

>>376184686
The institute is literally just an entire civilization of people that can't accept the bombs fell. They just pretend everythings A-OK as long as they can continue to produce science

>>376181002
>Institute main objective is reverting the apocalypse
>somehow theres people who don't want be part of this

It's a no brainer, really.

>>376184686
They made synths because they wanted to repopulate the Earth with them. That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

>>376184913
They cause more suffering than help

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>society of shut-in egotist nerds
>with the technology to create subservient waifus
The most amazing thing about the Institute is that they survived 200 years without someone killing every other human in the place and just setting the machines to build him an android harem

>>376184686
Save humanity by replacing them with synthetic people that can be mind controlled and disposed of easily by the members of the institute.

Basically gommienism, which shouldn't be surprising given they're all descendants of college students who think communism would be great because they'll all be members of the inner party.

>Be the Institute
>have one of the most advanced facilities on what's left of the destroyed planet
>spend it to make synths and replace people
>also make gorillas

I mean, if I was Todd I'd probably be firing half my writing department.
Does he even know how much FO4 sucked?

>>376184594
Don't think so. Nuka World let's you tell every faction to fuck off, but you can't raid their homebases or anything, whoever you sided with in the main story is probably there for good.

>Send Deacon and Danse to some isolated island
>Murder everyone at the Railroad HQ, and the skyscraper hideout
>Fly up to the Prydwen, nuke everyone inside
>Nuke the brotherhood down at the airport from above on the Prydwen
>Shoot down the airship
>Enter the Institute
>Kill everyone, destroy the entire facility
I am the one true king of the Wasteland

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>>376184948

But why? How does this benefit them?

>>376184986
>americans

>>376184447
I don't give two shots about him. Do I lose any waifus?

>>376184981
>with the technology to create subservient waifus
Anyone with a robot workbench and assloads of duct tape can do that, anon.

>>376184225
I've seen it used for other things like pitbulls and communism, but what does the yellow and black mean?

>>376184078
Not him but I have around 200 hours in the game, if you mod the shit out of and massively ramp up all damage in combat it turns into a very decent exploration-shooter thing

>>376181562

This guy gets it

>>376185085
I uh, I don't know.

I mean, if we're talking strictly gameplay I think Curie rolls with it.

But you'd pretty much be joining an organization that thinks she's scum and she should be dead or enslaved. Dunno how you'll feel about that.

>>376184948
No they didn't, they made synths because they wanted them to do the shit they didn't want to do and the early versions were not aesthetically pleasing.

>>376185059
It benefits them because they can build a new world full of hyper-advanced synthetic organisms so that Earth can be what it was before the Great War. Also they'll go down in history as mankind's saviors I guess.

I think I've had more save breaking glitches on this game than any other Bethesda game. I'm done with these fucks.

>>376185085
The only followers who are affected by your faction choice are the followers for those factions.

If the Brotherhood ever goes hostile to you, you lose Danse (if his quest is completed he won't be hostile but won't follow you anymore)
If the Railroad ever goes hostile to you, you lose Deacon
If the Institute ever goes hostile to you, you lose X6
If you help the Nuka-World raiders attack the Commonwealth, you lose Preston

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>>376185119
Anarcho-capitalism ideology.
>polite sage for notvidya

>>376184402
>not stealing everything that isn't nailed down before hand and depositing it into either a workbench or a chest

Also, I'm willing to bet that since the institute was so incompetent, blowing them up will just be the canon choice with no specifics on which faction did it, you can't confirm it was the railroad because it was a secret faction that disbanded shortly thereafter, only vague references and obvious bullshit propaganda for BoS who, with the direction they were going are probably going to be insular again with the exception of a military campaign anytime they get a whiff of new tech, and the minute men that, while they might be a cohesive nation in the next game, were no where near to being one in this game and so would be in the same boat as the BoS with regards to information about it. Bam, FO4 dragonbreak.

>>376184978
Its all about making that omelet though.
And they surely are no worse than Raiders and Super Mutants.

>>376185271
>FO4 dragonbreak
DEEPEST L O R E

>>376181002
It's like Batman and the League of Shadows. He doesn't like that they kill people but he could literally prevent them from killing people if he would just accept the position of being their leader. I started off on the railroad but then they went all "synth lives are actually MORE important than human lives" and I was done with that shit. Plus the institute has a mission where you reprogram Liberty Prime to destroy the nazi blimp.

>>376184748
>lazy developers won't let me regret senselessly murder npcs because videogames
0/10

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>>376183986
I would genuinely like to see some sort of media about the years of NRC expansion between that happened between fallout 2 and new Vegas. The bits of info you get in new vegas always interested me.

>>376185184
Well whatever, are there any mods that are must have these days?

If synths are so great and better than humans, why didn't they immediately kill and overthrow every human in the Institute, especially since the Institute was dumb enough to give them sentience?

>>376185747
They were designed by autists so they also had autism

>>376185747
The institute was smart enough to make them all Betas with the exception of coursers who feel no emotion except loyalty to the institute.

FYI the word you people want is "sapience", not "sentience". Sentience is just being able to perceive things. Sapience is the human-like capabilities.

>>376184851
But muh lone wolf & cub stories...

>>376185246
>Not letting him die
Why make him suffer?

>>376186152
Thanks Captain Pedantic

>>376186239
I thought it was interesting. you learned something today because of his post right?

>>376185271

It's cute that you think Beth is going to advance the overall plot of Fallout at all.

Which of the female followers are virgins? This is important.

FO4 was such a letdown, considering I replayed New Vegas weeks before I got to play 4
>hey we are the NCR and we hate the BoS
>hey we are the BoS and we hate the NCR
>you can actually make them understand that the Legion is the true enemy and they make a truce
Godfuckingdammit Todd

>>376181246
Aren't you being held back by a table of smaller scale leaders of the Institute outvoting your orders though?

>>376186535
Curie but only by technicality if you transferred her into the synth body, if she's still in her robot form then she is completely pure.

>>376186996
You're giving the writers too much credit, aside from the initial reluctance one of the council members shows they never try to dissuade you or plot against you

>>376187315
well shit dude I'm just echoing what I heard some time ago

never done an Institute play through, not familiar with anything in there other than that everything is obnoxiously white

>>376181141
>Using meme civilization which got rekt by itself

Good one. I don't like FoNV but NCR or Yes Man is way the go, if both are not a choice then rebuilding BoS to its former glory is the way.

>>376181940
>tfw your boss suddenly walks by

>>376187205
I'd be willing to bet those scientist she worked with fucked her some how.

>>376181585
Or is he just programmed to not condone criminal behavior?

>>376181483

>this is what I can expect in the next TES game

It fucking hurts.

Every Bethesda developed RPG just gets more and more dumb.

>>376183489

I got into a fight with some guy downtown one night and beat his shit in because I have that haircut, have had it for going on 2 years, and he called me a neo nazi, even though my girlfriend is Colombian, and my entire circle is black / hispanic. Started trashing me and getting in my face, then he spat at me, pushed me, and that was it.

Fuck retards.

>>376181141
fuck off pederast, House Always Wins

Shit game shit mods shit fun

Yes Man

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Is it possible to complete F4 without doing ANY minutemen shit?

Like just start the game fresh out of the vault, and ignore any and all minutemen quests for the whole game?

I cant stand thier quests. Like holy shit Im just running back and forth doing boring busy work for these fucks when Im supposed to be the LEADER.

>>376189223
You can't get the fortress without them I think.

>>376189223
yes actually
source: me, I managed to do the institute and railroad questlines without even seeing Preston in Concord
You get locked out of like one or two map areas, I forgot

>>376189223
There might be something about building the teleporter, but otherwise I can't think of any MM specific things for the main quest

>>376189223
>Pimp out your outpost with missiles and lasers
>Still can get their asses kicked and people kidnapped

>>376181002
Minutemen

>>376189453

>spend hours upon hours pimping out your towns with turrets and traps and all sorts of awesome shit
>nothing ever happens
>leave settlement to do quests
>"your settlement is under attack"
>oh fuck, better quicktravel back
>walk into town
>a few super mutants that die in seconds to turrets
>oh.....okay.......did I even need to come back? Isnt that what my defenses are for?

>>376189223
Just don't do their quests????

>>376186501
This, they would have no idea where to go with it anyway, it's just their go to sandbox for people who thinks elves are gay.

>>376189223
You actually can, and I did it recently. You just take your power armor/minigun, and when you speak to mr. another settlement needs our help you choose "not my problem", and you don't even become their general and receive no radiant quests as well.

>>376190368
>did I even need to come back?
Not really. Some stuff gets randomly damaged/destroyed depending on your defense rating but it won't even recalculate your settlement stats until you actually go back there.

When we get Fallout 5?

>>376182268
It can actually kill ghouls with that if you install Lorenzo's Artifact on it and you have high explosive.

>>376182525
>Modding scene is so shit that 140 of my 180 mods installed were weapon mods ripped of other games
Good fucking lord

>>376181549
nigger that image is basing shit on new vegas only and not the previous games. in fallout 1 and 2 people were making new shit and vault city was fucking pristine. shit some niggers had laser grid walls. stop being a fag like avellone and sawyer and realize the west coast was reforming and actually creating shit, not being muh grimdark wasteland.

niggers who think the west coast was so terrible never played 1 or 2 and just parrot the retards of nv. sure the mojave may be shitty but the west coast fuckign isnt

>>376183628
>eden
>autumn

non canon

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F4 was alot more fun once I installed that weather mod that adds Rad Storms that let you set a chance for ghouls to spawn in the rad storms as if ghouls would gather and follow these storms around.

It was pretty sweet to be out exploring, have a rad storm blow in, and then shit my pants when I hear the ghoul screams in the distance.

I play on legendary, so basically everythings a one hit kill.

>>376192231
Honestly, Legendary is the only legit way to play. I fucking hate bullet sponges.

>>376192231
>>376192343
>legendary
You mean survival?