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>get Automata
>Play to ending A
>get depressed
>Play to ending B
>get depressed
>Play to ending C
>get depressed
>Play to ending D
>get depressed
>Play to ending E
>get depressed
>every ending after that is considered a "bad" ending

Why is this game an emotional rollercoaster?
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>>376168793
>Ending A
>Bad
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Ending E was not depressing at all. That final sequence hit me hard though.
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>>376168793
It's not a rollercoaster if it only goes down.
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you guys are some pussies
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>>376168936
I actually got network help. Everytime I died seeing the messages from other players to keep going made me feel determined. Really nice touch
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>>376168793
How the fuck did E depress you, its the most uplifting sequence Ive played in years.
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If you didn't get upset when [2B died or Pascal asked you to kill him] then I dont think you are human.
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>>376169019
You're supposed to get the network help.
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>>376169154
I didn't want the help, but accidentally mashed through and got it.
That kinda ruined the moment for me, when I was just unthankful about unrequired help.
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ending E is the most touching experience I have ever witnesses, and it wasn't depressing at all. the feeling of being connected to the whole world is something that isn't easily achieved, yet automata just did that with very simple tools
it works like catharsis, you go through it to get rid of all the emotions that were building up in you during all the other routes, I had an absolute breakdown in tears, but my depression went away
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>>376169278
>unrequired
So are you a shmup fanatic or did you just plan on burning hours upon hours in order to beat it solo?
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>>376169143
>getting upset when noncharacter 2B dies

lmao
Pascal's ordeal, Endinc C and Ending D fucked me up though.
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>>376168793
Perfect gift for rich suicidal Aunties that will guilt trip leave you all their money because they molested you.
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>>376168793
>Ending A
>depressing
That ending was Yoko Taro imitating a Disney movie ending in comparison.
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>>376169278
I don't think you understand how difficult it is solo.
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I kept my save
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>>376169525
I had not faced the fact that it had been made to be almost unbeatable.
I was just thinking that I was just a bit away from next checkpoint.
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>>376168793
Ending A did nothing to me, I was actually disappointed because I thought that's the final scene and I just get more to it after a few playthroughs like the first nier
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>>376169371
I felt worn and sad by the end of it. I just wanted more between 2B and 9S. Maybe a scene of them holding hands
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>>376169758
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>>376169694
I did choke up a bit on A until the very last part.
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So I just beat ending A, is it really worth to go through the other ones?

I want to resume my play of Yakuza 0 instead tbqh
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>>376170347

Do you make a habit of quitting games with less than half of the game completed?
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>>376170347
You are half-way through the prolologue.
I'd suggest skipping sidequesting and exploration on route B and just run through the story.

There is lots of good little stuff on sidequests, but you can return to those later, so focus on the story and it's pretty fast.
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[9S slowly going insane and having to kill an army of 2Bs really fucked my shit up. Also the whole thing with YorHA's purpose and plan fucked me up.]
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>>376170545
Ctrl-S buddy.
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>>376170347
Ending A is exactly the halfway point of the game.
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>>376170347
If you're content with stopping at the 20% mark sure
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>>376170545
[Why are you typing like this]
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>>376169601
I had the opposite reaction with 2B and Pascal. Route C screwed with me so much I had to do some mental preparation going into route D. I had to give it a rest and come back later. Funny not one person in this thread is probably depressed about humans be extinct
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>>376170698

<< He thinks those are spoiler tags, I think >>
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>>376170347
Route B is A from another perspective. The first few main quests are the same with little bits of new content but from then on it's new stuff. The side quests are all either new to B or ones from A you did not complete.

Route C is entirely new content. D and E are just different branches of C, which can be completed in under 10 minutes thanks to the chapter select function that completing C unlocks.
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>>376169371
It's even better if you get that connected type of feeling without vidya. Or without any kind of guidance. Or any substances. Just naturally. Changes your life.
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How did you feel when you completed near a tomato, /v/?
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Isn't the combat in this game superficial trash with no depth at all?

Get fucked.
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>>376170769
Moar pics

Human extinction for 7000 years made me lay in bed contemplating purpose as an android Really fucked my shit up all night
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>>376170948
very fruity
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>>376170972
Depends. Are you a big pussy fag baby who complains when everything isn't the most incredible thing to ever shock and awe his brain? Then yeah, it's bad.

If you're a regular human being with realistic standards though, it's pretty damn good and fun.
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>Getting depressed from Endings A/B

Literally how. That entire sequence was fucking cringy as shit. Not only is it cringy as fucking shit, but 9S' retarded "HAHA IM ACTUALLY OKAY TOOBIE HAHA" utterly killed any sort of emotional atmosphere that scene had.

Are you people women?
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>>376170948
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>>376170948
Emils final fight fucked me up, to the point where hearing the song makes me tear up.
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>>376170948
The perfect mix of happy and depressed. I just sat there feeling content for twenty minutes after.
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>>376168836
We killed two robots that evolved into humans. While I don't think it was wrong to kill them I still sometimes think of it from their perspective of things.
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>>376171067
Platinum should stop slapping their brand on everything considering they haven't been involved with a good game since Vanquish.
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>>376171125
Judging by how OP doesn't know how to use spoiler tags at all, s(he) is either a women, a redditor, or both
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>>376171258

>we killed two homicidal maniacs that wanted to commit genocide. I empathize with them.
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>>376171125
to be honest initially they didn't hit me very hard (I lose you the you that exists this very moment, like stop whining you still have it better than people who lose their loved ones etc.)
but when you learn about their whole story, how many times she was forced to kill him (it always ends like this), it gets much more touching
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>>376171125
It reminded me that pretty girl will never ride me in cowgirl position and that was sad.
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>>376171168
Kek

More images anons.
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>>376171125
> not being a woman
how does it feel being condemned to a greyscale life of emotional deadness?
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>>376171418
Just thinking of the loss of a sibling who was your only friend really got to me. I did say that it wasn't wrong to kill them.
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>>376171529
I did feel for eve toward the end but then remembered he is an asshole so I got over it.
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>little shitter cucks who need to circlejerk over some bad game's "story" for 19 hours
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>>376170948
like I got memed. I tried to like the game but it's exclusively for people who fall for anime shit.
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Why did Eve get THAT tattoo?
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>>376171692
Ditto.
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>>376171704
>sad lads who browse threads about games they don't like just to talk shit
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>>376171740
it looks cool
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>>376170992
I still wonder what they would do if they have did stumble upon a few last remaining humans. I wonder if they would be worshiped as religious deities.
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Are you peoples only experience in depressing media fucking Lion King or something? There were a good number of sad moments sure, but humanity being extinct? Ending A/B? Adam and Eve? Jesus christ, I had bitch tears at other parts of the game, but that's pathetic. I don't want to see how you'd react to Nier, as it's much worse on the suffering scale. Not to mention the main characters are actually likeable
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>>376171943
these are the people who cry when all their waifus die in some edgy anime shite
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>>376168793
Why would you be depressed after ending A B and E?
They have a happy ending to them.
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>>376171692
I felt bad for Eve a lot later after playing C and recognising that he was in the same boat as 9S. Then I felt upset that I wasn't able to empathise with him before hand because that would have made 9S nuclear meltdown more enjoyable.
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>>376171943
>fucking Lion King
My favorite porn parody.
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>>376171943
Tfw Beepy and the young shade
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>>376169758
I know how you feel, this is the game that makes me want the beach episode DLC.
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>>376171943
how come 2B and 9S are not likeable?
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tfw no yorha commander gf
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>>376172230
They are likeable, but their characterisation is pretty poor and most of it is applied in retrospect.
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>>376172230
Some people have issues detecting more suble hints of emotions and feelings, so they can have trouble when characters don't stand around going "I'm sad" and "I'm happy now".
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>>376171692
I felt bad for them because their goals might have been different if Adam's very first life experience hadn't been the feeling of a sword hacking at him. There wasn't much hope for them when the first thing they learned was violence.
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>>376172195
You wouldn't believe the money I would pay for just for the healing alone.
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>>376172565
>>376172205
>>376172018
>>376171848
>>376171043
>>376170948
>>376170769
>>376169758
Fanart for this game is adorable
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>>376172813
It can go from very sexy to very cute, It has good range.
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>>376171692
>>376172550
I almost felt bad for Eve, but he had no time to evolve on me.

I was fine with killing Adam, he's not even mad and the hug pat after getting stabbed makes it clear he had a good life. Eve on the other hand, even with B's extra cutscenes, just doesn't go far enough. We know he loves his onii-chan and likes to play. And that's it.

>>376173283
You bet it does.
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>>376171258
You really didn't know much about Adam and Eve other then they were humanized parts of the machine network. It just showed 9S and 2B's emotional development and showed little difference between them and the machines..

Ending A was just "it looks like we truly were the NieR: Automata TM"
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>>376174312
Adam and Eve also both mirror 9S.
Adam sought knowledge and that got him ultimately killed, just as 9S models were doomed to be killed by 2B when they learned too much.
Eve lost someone dear to him and went to fit of uncontrolled rage, basically just like 9S did.
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>>376170769
>Funny not one person in this thread is probably depressed about

I called it less than an hour into the game.
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>>376174476
Maybe I'm just not a clever man, but I didn't realise this, or any of the other similar things until a couple of days after completing the game. I feel that if I had realised them while playing the game it would have been so much more enjoyable.
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>>376174523
It's one of the most obvious "twists" of the story.
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>>376174523
Think most people did, especially if you played the original Nier.
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>>376174523
Or ya know, it's super fucking obvious and the original Nier spoils it anyways? Quit trying to equate all criticisms with "lmao you haven't played it yet"
Dumbass secondary
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>>376174476
>9S models were doomed to be killed by 2B when they learned too much.
Delete this.
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>>376172018
I'm not sure how to feel about the other 9s and 2B's role with them. The novella did not help because it just made such a sudden turn. One second it's "Oh wow is Old World magic still functional? I can't wait to see them do what Nier did!" to "Guess we gotta fight!"
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>>376174752
I'm sorry, I meant to say 2E instead of 2B.
My bad.
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>>376170769
The androids and machines being so disturbingly human kinda made it comforting in a strange way. Humanity's extinct, but at least there's someone there to take over after us. Also, anyone who played the original Nier knew already, and it was predictable even if you didn't.
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>find 2B's fligh unit in the flooded city
>can't really do anything as it initiates text dialogue
>stand there listening to her message
>just as it ends the idle animation triggers, so while 9S is having a little cry he's stretching his arms above his head in a relaxed manner

>go to the tower and Popo and Devo show up
>Emil is hooning around in the background blasting his song

This fucking game.
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>>376171125
this. If I picked up the game without know what a Taro was, I would've dropped it there. A is such a generic 'bad thing happens, oh no it doesn't' ending that a normal person is completely justified in losing all faith in future writing. especially when presented route B.

>>376171423
it was hot as fuck though
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>>376175027
Yeah I was kind of tipped off when 9S made that comment about the council of humanities message being so stiff.
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>>376175027
>machines being so disturbingly human kinda made it comforting in a strange way.
Yeah until they repeat the same things humans did, decreasing their chances at long term survival.

I'd like to see what's going on in the parts of the world stuck in eternal twilight/darkness. The eco system and general life would be an entirely different experience.
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>>376168793
>getting depressed over a generic anime plot
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>>376175771
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>>376169016
I'm strong when I cry.
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>>376170769
No that's the most depressing thing. Just a bunch of mechanical mimics.
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>No fan art of Operator 6O or the commander
Why?
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>>376170972
Ok. What's your idea of depth and how many games that you enjoy have this depth you seek? Inb4 Dmc.
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>>376176278
>Just a bunch of mechanical mimics.
Another anon brought this up in another thread, but they'd be fine if they could just accept who they are and embrace their power source. They put it better, but I'm roughly summarizing.

The Machine Lifeforms, if they could rid themselves of their alien programming the way Pascal did, could likely take good care of the earth. It's a real shame though, that vanity is still a thing.
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Emil was one of the best parts of the game. I enjoyed watching him floor it blasting his music during cutscenes
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>>376176697
Pascal didn't rid himself of his programming. The network did that for him so it could observe how he would handle life.
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>>376176332
I dont think you even tried to look and are baiting me into posting it.
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2Booty gets all the love Ass2 should be getting.
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>>376176351
>Played this right after finishing up Danganronpa 2
JUST
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>>376176919
Oh no, it looks like I misunderstood something. Please clarify for me, is there a way to completely free one's self from the network on their own? The only robot I think that wasn't affected at all was the one joke machine on a break at the park.
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>>376176919
You make it sound as if the network wanted to create Pascal in particular. The network fucked itself in order to reduce its efficiency and to let androids survive, then during the repair process it assimilated whatever information it could find and evolved in multiple directions. Pascal was (probably) just a result of that, but it's not like the network suddenly decided to create a pacifist machine.
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Quit spoiling. Some of us haven't pirated it yet
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>You're thinking about how much you want to **** 2B, aren't you?

What did he mean by this??? What did he mean by saying that 9S wants to **** my waifu?
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>>376177031
Yes.Thank you for that image6O is best operator
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>>376175063
emil is the best.
I had at least 3-4 sad/depressing moments ruined by his ass speeding by in the background.
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>>376177304
Fuck. It was talking to 9S and to you at the same time.
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>>376177304
How much you want to OLEV 2B
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>>376177304
>That moment when you realize it wasnt just talking to 9S
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>>376177298
I know this is bait but-
>nier thread
>not expecting spoilers

>>376177386
>and to you at the same time.
Hug is only 3 letters not 4.
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>>376168793
>emotional rollercoaster
>only makes you feel one emotion
It's more like an emotional carousel then
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>>376168793
K
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>>376176697
Still not naturally formed biological organisms or even, if you like, biological machines. Like humans are. It's all still an artificial existence.
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>>376177326
21O is great in her slow development.
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>>376177298
Pay Taro. At least pay Taro.
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Are there any black androids? Like, niggas?
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>>376177880
No. Sorry you missed this one.
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>>376177880
I didnt see any Nigdroids or Nogbots
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>>376177880
21Z is black
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>>376177880

Why would they design an android that couldn't work?
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>>376168793
>you have to play the game 257 times to unlock the real ending
>this is somehow acceptable and not bad game design
muh replaybality xDxDDDxDDDD
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>tfw Armyfag and keep calling them Niner-Sierra and Two-Bravo and Alpha-2 and 21-Oscar
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How does Nier Automata tie into the original Nier universe?

Are androids related to gestalts or replicants or whatever?
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>>376177880
I actually wouldn't doubt it on the other side of the planet since we haven't seen all the non YorHa androids.

>>376177771
>man I bet the Commander is actually super evil
>Command betrayed you
>waiting for that boss fight
>can't actually fight and was good to you till the end
Wasn't expecting that.
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>>376177880
the warehouse resistance guy
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>>376178148

I didn't even play Nier and I figured that out, man.
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>>376177115
2B is a work of art. She has silky smooth skin, perfect curves and a superior Japanese ass that was folded over 10,000 times. A2 was assembled like she was the interior of a Ford pickup truck. Large noticeable gaps between panels, hard to the touch surface and has an ass that flexes when you pull it.
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>>376178148
Original Gestalt Project failed resulting in the extinction of humanity. It is a directly connected to original
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>>376178148
It isn't really, except for the presence of Popola, Devola and of course Emil.

The androids were a plan B after the failure of the Gestalt project became evident.
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>>376178294
Well spill the beans then, homo
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>>376178370

Why should I spoonfeed someone who didn't read the non-optional info packets?
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>>376178495
>2017
>reading texts in a fucking video game

I skipped all the text because if i wanted to read shit I'd buy a book.
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>>376177189
Masamune was likely the only truly free machine.
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Would it have changed anything if Tubii and 9s didn't attack Adam after he was birthed? Or would he eventually still be violence crazed after learning about the way humans were?
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>>376178884
If Adam was going to follow the ways of humans he would of still be violent. I'm pretty sure trying to kill him then and there was the right response.
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>>376178189
>I actually wouldn't doubt it on the other side of the planet since we haven't seen all the non YorHa androids.
Pretty sure there are black Resistance androids around, IIRC Anemone herself wasn't exactly white.
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>>376168793
Shit game
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>>376179425
There are a couple of brownos around but I don't remember any straight up black androids
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>>376179425
Anemone is that delicious shade of brown that only exists in fiction.
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>>376179567
:thinking:
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>>376179783
I already like it.
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>>376178693
Please be bait.

>>376178717
A real shame honestly. To see literally only a handful of bots not go insane or destined to "die" horribly. Too bad there's no robo heaven.

>>376179217
I honestly cannot think of any other outcome or conclusion he'd come to if given fight free time for a few hundred years. I-I just want Eve and his onii-chan to play forever.

>>376179567
>that only exists in fiction.
Do you know what mulatto are?
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>>376179840
>Do you know what mulatto are
disgusting
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>>376178324
You know 2B looks like A2 right? A2 is just lacking maintenance for literally years, has longer hair and walks around mostly naked.
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>>376180161
I thought they where just put together differently.
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>>376181523
9s was a good boy.
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>>376181602
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>>376177304

After finishing the game, I'm 100% sure I know what's under the ****

It's ****

That's the exact message Adam sends to 9S. He knows how fucked up and conflicted 9S is, so he sends him the one message he knows will make 9S have to confront the shitty duality of his situation. The absolute last thing 9S wants to think about is whatever he interprets the **** as, and Adam knows it. He was tormenting 9S because Adam is obsessed with hatred, and nobody hates everything, including himself and the one person he loves, like 9S.
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>>376177767
So? They're still sentient beings capable of thought on the same level as humans. Effectively they're tougher humans with ageless bodies. The only problem with the Androids is that they can't get over their autistic obsession with humans and live their own lives.
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2B was the first character whose death
I actually gave a shit about in a video game in a while.
I don't feel good about it.
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>>376181602
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>>376182127
And their autistic obsession with humans is not unlike our own autistic obsession with religion or with ancestors/heritage.
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I'd just like to say that this is a fantastic time. Had no idea the gameplay was so similar to Automata. Weiss playing so similar to the pods. Though, weiss seems primary in original Nier while pod plays secondary in automata. Vice versa for sword play.

Just got to Facade. Papa Nier is lovable. So is Kaine. Equally great sound track.

And I like the combat a lot contrary to all the people I saw who said it was bad. I enjoyed the shit out of it since the opening fight in the snowy ally.

Again, surprised and enjoying how much of original nier laid so much of the base for Automata. Automata is really a proper sequel.
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>>376182173
I'm pretty much the same. It's been a long while since I cared more about the characters of a game more than the story it's self.
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>>376182643
I liked the spells in Nier a lot more than the pod programs in Automata.
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>>376168793
WHY THE FUCK IS THE GAME CALLED NIER IF NIER HAS BEEN FUCKING DEAD FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS
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>>376182314
Yeah, but religion played an important role in the development of early civilization. Their intense desire to save humanity hasn't done anything good for them.
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>>376182858
Because it's a sequel to NieR, and everything that's happened in the world since then is a consequence of Nier's actions.
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>>376182314
>he can't become a god
I think that it's closer to ancestors/heritage over religion. Or rather, a mix of both. Human beings are seen a lot like the way people view the Aztecs, ancient Greeks, and Sumerians. We have all kinds of stuff lost in translation because a lot of our information just degraded or got destroyed in wars.

I would like to see how Taro would respond to cases of how humans developed stuff just for this occasion today. Like time capsules, the modern Library of Alexandria, ect.
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>>376182643
The spells are a bigger focus in Nier and they're all fun to use. I only ever used melee when I ran out of MP.
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>>376182643
HD remake when?
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>>376182870
Sure, but I don't think that has anything to do with the point the game is trying to make.

>>376182991
Remember that humanity is actually referred to using the word "god" in-game though. It's a mix, yeah, but the religious aspect shouldn't be understated, especially since actual religions based on ancestor worship are/were a thing.
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>>376183161
Fuck off.
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>>376177304
"Fuck"
You're thinking aobut how much you want to "fuck" 2B, aren't you?
They just threw it in there for shock value, same shit as "I'm so fucked up".
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>>376182643
I honestly have no idea how you're enjoying the melee combat before getting the greatsword and spear, but good for you.
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>>376171692
I felt bad for Eve because he came across as fucking mentally retarded in ending B in an endearing way.
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>>376183275
truth hurts doesn't it?
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>>376183295
Everyone knows you can't fuck Androids though anon. So he had to mean something else.
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>>376183420
Reminded me of gilbert grape
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>>376182723
Agreed. Love stacking lances.

Good thing melee is so much more dazzling in Auto.
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>>376172565
>Thank you for the flowers!
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>>376183161
Isn't that Undertale?
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>>376182173
>>376182649
I loved the game, but how? She was so bland during Route A/B. It's funny how you liked the characters more, as this was easily Taro's worst game character wise, while I found it was his best in terms of themes and the use of the medium. His best overall story is still Nier though, as it doesn't sacrifice its characters for the themes, something I felt Automata was highly guilty of
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>>376183416
It has its charm with enough variety. I'll enjoy the greatsword and spear a lot them.
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>>376183470
You can fuck them though, according to Taro. They can even go as far as mimicking pregnancy, though they can't actually get pregnant.
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>>376183436
go away machine.

>>376183420
I wouldn't say retarded, he just doesn't care for thinking as much. Eve went along with whatever Adam wanted and would be content with being naked and having play time forever. He's a lot like the giant machine hidden under water. Childlike, doesn't understand much, and goes berserk because murderous waifu bots keep trying to stab him.
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>>376183681
Why is that a guilt? Just a style change, eh?
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Anyone else thinking about how much they want to **** A2?
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WHERES THE FUCKING CRACK
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>>376183910
A2 gets a washdown yeah.
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>>376182643
I've always said that NieR had fun combat but just never utilized it that well. It just never challenges you and seems to hit a plateau early on.
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>>376183976
RIGHT HERE FOR FUCK'S SAKE IT'S POSTED MULTIPLE TIMES A THREAD.
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>>376184223
best image
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>>376183837
Like I said, the original Nier told its story well while still keeping the cast interesting and highly likeable. They spent too much time working off the 2E reveal, which caused 2B's characterization to suffer. While she does become more interesting in retrospect, it's not enough to warrant a second playthrough, whereas in Nier the twist completely recontexualizes the game
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>>376184284
But Yorha being a shame was a bigger twist than the 2E reveal. I get what your saying. I have to finish first Nier to know.
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>>376183681
She really is bland, especially when you get to A2 later on, but she is still the first one you encounter during the story. I think it also plays into emotions around her death; she just starts to become more open with her emotions leading up to it. Her last words are literally the first time she openly refers to 9S by his nickname.

She is also super cute, which doesn't hurt.
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>>376184284
Personally I liked the 2E twist just as much, it was just more of a slow burn to think about than NieR's immediate realizations.
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>>376183681
Really? I thought A2 came off as the weakest character because it felt like the game didn't spend enough time on her story. The reason I liked 2B so much is you could start to see the conflict between the orders given to her by command, and the self guilt she started to have when it came to what she was doing to 9S. I didn't like her in the beginning either but by the end of her story she came off as one of the more memorable characters in Nier.
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>>376182103
That's actually not a bad idea.
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>>376183681
>His best overall story is still Nier though
I'm not sure if I can agree with that. The ending was definitely very good and powerful, but it also felt highly cliche and formulaic in some parts as well as ham-fisted. For instance I think that having small Shades drop coloring books was a retarded and way too obvious move that early in the story. The "reveal" at the end that Shades were human was no reveal at all, the game wasn't foreshadowing or dropping subtle hints as much as it was beating you over the face with the whole "Shades are human" idea for the entire playthrough. The entire setup with Beepy felt like the stars had aligned with the purpose of injecting tragedy into the story and the whole wolves vs. Facade conflict also lost a lot of weight since wolves directly aggro and attack you. Was I supposed to feel bad for killing wolves which run at me and attack me?

Also the individual arcs for getting Verses or key fragments were generally OK, but the entire setup of "gather the magical items" was lazy and cheap. And it was used fucking twice, holy shit.

This would all be generally forgivable if the original was a thematically-focused game like Automata, but it uses the actual plot much more heavily to deliver its message compared to Automata. The plot in Automata is more of a showcase of the game's themes.

Don't get me wrong though, I loved Nier's story, I'm just not sure I can agree about it being better than Automata.
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>>376183681
>Taro's worst game character wise
Worst is a bit strong of a word. Perhaps, just not as strong? Tubii took until C to really bloom from generic kuudere to something special. However, 9s was the real star of the show. From the start I liked how pleasant he was and seeing him slip made me keep picking his side until I couldn't anymore.

Nier Autobots tried something different which, while is expected of Taro, could have been handled better so it's not as slowly paced. The other games just have everyone's brand of crazy set on display immediately- which would make C onwards not as interesting.

Adam and Eve's mental states are just right there to see, traditional to the games perhaps. Maybe that's why I favor them so much.
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>>376184284
>>376184847
2B's characterization in-game was a big missed opportunity. Just the "Memory Cage" and "Memory Thorn" side stories found in the world-guide adds a ton of depth and impact to the charter. Unfortunately you have to go out of your way to find translations of the supplemental material, which most people aren't going to do. Would have been better if it was included somewhere in the game.
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>>376183751
I believe he said androids "could" get genitalia if they wanted them. Yorha would never spend extra money/resources on something like that would they?
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>>376171715
exactly. Couldn't even finish the second run (B?). Only anime faggots can empathize with this weeb trash
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>>376185287
Well A2's crotch is entirely on display and she doesn't have any, but it's not clear to me if any android can randomly decide to change their body and do it on the spot through techno-magic or if the body has to be manufactured with said "features" from the get go.
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>>376170347
>Start route B
>its the exact same thing as route A but with a new gimmick and some new cutscenes
I didn't know Sonic Team made this
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>>376184917
>>376185210
After reading about one of the executions, I mentally doubled back from square one and tried to piece it together, but outside of 2Bs cold demeanor, found nothing. Unless I missed something.

Would have been nice to find subtle changes in the things 9S said, tone of voice, or posture in cutscenes.
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>>376185210
That's another one of my problems, Automata relies heavily on side material not featured in the game to give its characterization. Nier and especially Drakengard both effectively flesh out their characters without the need for supplemental material, something which could not be said for Automata. What is it now, a stageplay, a concert, a strategy book, and two novellas? It's not like that stuff is purely supplemental like what most of Grimoire Noir was, most of the info featured is critical to understanding the characters better
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>>376185485
I definitely agree with that, while it opens up a lot about 2B's characterization throughout the game and why she starts off so cold and various quirks like clenching her fist aboard the space station after the prologue, I didn't see nearly as much with 9S or if he even was aware of the previous 9S executions (in-game at least, I've heard some of the supplementary material delves into that).
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>>376185485
A lot of important scenes take on a whole new meaning after you know.
>"It always ends like this" in the A/B endings
>the way 2B constantly says emotions are prohibited, but keeps breaking down on apparently trivial things through the entire playthrough
>the entire Amnesia sidequest
>her decision to sacrifice herself to save 9S in C
>her reluctance to call him Nines
That's just off the top of my head and it's been weeks since I finished the game, so I'm probably missing shit.
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>>376185448
I like to think she's got Barbie anatomy and androids can request an apparatus to be attached. YorHa is so obsessed with humanity while bowing down at the same time that I honestly don't think they'd get something down there because sensuality without the purpose of reproduction might cause conflict. Is it too close to what humans did? Is it ok to do because they know they can't reproduce? Stuff like that.

>>376185721
One of the main problems that to this day is still a thing is lack of effort to cater to the west. There are long term JRPG series right now that have magazines and all kinds of side content that has and will never be translated officially.

Taro apologized about it, at least.
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>>376185448
At the very least I would imagine they would have to go into some sort of mechanical surgery if they could change the part at all. The real question I would have is are there any deluxe model genitalia.
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>>376186165
YoRHa in particular might have some restrictions since they're viewed as "lesser" androids by their creators since they use machine cores as their power supplies (and are consequently much more powerful too, it seems). I doubt Androids in general wouldn't have any issues if they can go as far as replicating pregnancy.

>>376186614
Considering their quality in general if there's an option at all it's probably deluxe by default.
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>>376185294
Automata is interesting in that it either sparks a fire inside of you, or you just don't give a fuck and hate it. Route B is arguably the worst section. However, the game is short enough that I implore you to finish ending E. If you still think it's trash you have the option to convey that message directly to other players in-game. The final message system allows for some very negative comments, including "You're trash" and "shitty world, shitty game". I found that to be very amusing.
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>>376187369
>jutting hip bones
ew

>>376187076
>it's probably deluxe by default.
>there could be a futa android with a perfectly feminine penis
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>>376187076
Read somewhere that Devola has working lady-bits. I haven't played the original Nier but heard it was heavily implied.
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>>376188163
Says she turns slurry when she drinks.
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>>376188452
>slurry
Slutty*
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>>376187689
>there could be a futa android with a perfectly feminine penis
Nah m8. Deluxe means it's heated and has independent muscle movement through out the vagina so you don't have to do any work. The model above that is marketed to females which has a vacuum device inside perfect for forced copulation.
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>>376188591
The concepts of physical pleasure among androids is something I'm glad wasn't a focus on, but I'm still curious about. They can perceive beauty but it just seems like its there just 2B there.

It's kind of stale I think, when attraction goes back to a pretty face. I was touched by the novella about Fyra and the prince meeting pre-game for steering away from this.
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I still don't feel good about ending E.
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>>376189450
Me either anon.
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>>376189450
>>376189696
Is it wrong to want to **** 2B's eyes?
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>still no Xbone version announced

fuck me
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>>376171943
tfw cried profusely when i watched your name
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>>376169734
Same.
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>>376189904
>still no Switch version announced

fuck me
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>>376190530
>it was a movie all along
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>>376189450
Wasn't there someone that found canon info about what happened after Ending E? I remember hearing that 2B actually died of grief because 9S' memory banks couldn't be restored.
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>>376190915
Oh, don't say that. The game doesn't need to leave us feeling any worse than it already does.
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>>376168793

how is that a roller coaster, seems like its just depressing
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>>376191008
It was from some kind of play. Someone translated some chinese translations into english.
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>>376190915
>>376191008
They had a live show during which the dub actors read some short stories, one of which was set after ending E.
The script, which you could buy from SE's website, stated that 2B goes cathatonic over grief from 9S not waking up.
At the live show it turned out it was all bullshit and they both live.
The nier general has everything archived in the OP, including the original script and the alternate ending they showed at the live show
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>>376191112
Well that's good. It would've been too cruel.
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>>376191112
>>376191098
The play isn't a joke? I really thought it was people just making fun of the number of endings and spin off novels.
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>>376191178
It was a nice joke I think. The script also mentioned A2's body implying that she was also dead, when the live version doesen't even mention her
The 9S actor came out at the last minute unannounced to keep it a surprise, it was fun seeing people go apeshit over it for a few days
>>376191260
it's all real
https://mega.nz/#F!1U9FABJA!mMSLFtaWnMsjC5kNrzsgHA
to be fair, compared to the older games, the automata side stories aren't even that important, 90% of them are just about feeling sad for 9S and that's it
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>Act 2
>9S's complete descent into madness
>A2's banter with the Pod
>Everything else leading up to getting into and through the Tower

And to think, some people just stopped playing after Ending A.
Also I just found the footage on Youtube of 2B and 9S's VAs playing through the game. It's amazing.
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>>376191940
actual VAs or dub VAs?
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>>376192016
>actual VAs or dub VAs?
They're both "actual" voices you weeb. Just say seiyuu if you're gonna be that way about it.
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Automata didn't give me the same feels I had for the first game.
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Did 9S ever get to buy a t-shirt for 2B?
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>>376192512
That's part of the tragedy. It's all mimicry by AI. The Android and machine pursuit to imitate the 'gone' humans is sad and precious.
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