>Already dead in a week A-At least Warhammer Inquisitor looks good

Every Warhammer game ever.

Drop RTS meme and make Space Marine sequels already.

>>376140161
DoW3 wasn't even an RTS which is the shittiest part about it all. If they had made an RTS like everyone wanted, it would have been fine.

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>>376139989

Oh so turning RTS into a MOBA to try to aproach milenials and dumbing down the game and making strategies so streamlined to kill every sense of creativity didnt work out so well, who would have though of that?

I would like to talk with developers just to see whats in their heads, if they dont belive in RTS playerbase and think that taking classic Dawn of War Dark Crusade aproach wouldnt work, why making the game in the first place?

>>376140706
I legit hope they close Relic over this shitshow. They all deserve to lose their jobs over this horse shit.

>>376139989
>Already dead in a week

>More concurrent players than any other non-Starcraft 2 RTS released this decade.
>Dead.

>>376140774

I doubt it, i have seen lots of shit games making the sales and at least doubling budget just from Preorders, game is a failure but i honestly doubt that they lost money....

in b4 shills post player count and sales numbers

>>376140986
>no threads on /v/
>this means it's dead
That's how things work here, pal

>>376140986
>More concurrent players than any other non-Starcraft 2 RTS released this decade
So that's like what.? 12 players?

>>376140986
Yeah, that's what happens when there are no other RTS games released in a decade. This is a failure, as had they not made a Moba it'd be three times the amount of players right now.

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>>376140161
>There will never be a Space Marine continuation of Titus' story

>>376141391

hahahahah this! RTS genre is long dead, people just forgot to pull the plug, i love RTS but there is just no audience for that to justify any big budget game, their fear from piracy even destroyed single player campaing, the only good thing those games had.

>>376141161
Relic's posted a shitty "THIS IS HOW MANY INGAME UNITS DIED ON LAUNCH!!!" post because the player stats were so shit and they needed a high number.

>>376141818
>but there is just no audience for that to justify any big budget game,
Unless they aim for the E-Sports market which is dominated by SC2 which only guarantees a half assed product on arrival. It's disappointing really.

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>>376139989
>Every Warhammer game ever.
Wrong.

Even DoW3 isn't dead yet, but it sure is getting there and will most likely have around 5k players by the end of the second week.

>>376139989
/v/ it pains me to see DoW reduced to this. Where did it go so wrong? What can we learn from this to take into the future?

>>376142123

Not even SC2 is what it used to be, havent seen that game being relevant on twitch for a while now, and you know what they say.

Its not an "Esport" if its not on first page of Twitch.tv. No audience, no $$$$

>>376140986
>no threads on /v/
>no general on /vg/

it's fucking dead, give it up

>>376142658
>Where did it go so wrong? What can we learn from this to take into the future?
They literally ignored the fanbase and kept lying and saying "YES GOY THIS IS THE GAME YOU WANTED" when everyone was calling em out on their shit from day one.

>>376142658
>Where did it go so wrong?
it went wrong at the exact moment when Relic decided to make DoW3 a RTS game similar to DoW1, not a real time tactics game similar to DoW2. Nobody plays RTS that are not starcraft these days and this is the real reason why DoW3 is dying, not because "it's a MOBA".

>>376142658

They are catering too much to attract masses but truth is nobody accept die hard fans care for it and they scared fans off with catering,

Every fan want DoW1 playstyle or at least good single player campaing that 40k is faimous for, DoW3 has none of that.

>>376142932
>Every fan want DoW1 playstyle
This is why I coicotted this trash. Fuck you, I wanted DoW2 playstyle.

>>376142836
even though its dead, RTS is still a shitton more popular than RTT. always been this way, always will be. hell, DoW1 still has more active players than DoW2 even though it's like 5 years older.

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>>376140341
How is DoW 3 not an rts?
What does it not have that DoW 1 had?
Legit curious.

>>376142836

Are you joking? Basebuilding in DoW3 is minimal, barely worth mentioning.

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>>376143023

And i wanted DoW2 style campaing, not glorified tutorial from DoW3, so we both got fucked.

>>376143067
>RTS is still a shitton more popular than RTT
That's why TW games sell millions why any non Starcraft RTS is stillborn?

>b-but TW games are not RTT
They are, the combat is pure RTT, the strategy map is a completely different aspect of the game altogether and comes into play only in singleplayer.

>>376143023

Fuck you dawn of war 2 was a shitty game.

It had no depth, no balance, and no fun.

Idiots like you with shit taste supported the change in direction, and now the whole series is dead.

>>376142463
TWW gets these numbers because it is more or less an official continuation of the tabletop, complete with some roster expansions

>>376143240
>>376143023
I would have been fine with a nice combo of the both. I liked 1 more than 2, but I still loved 2. 3 is just a fucking disgrace that isn't like either of em.

>>376140341
>DoW3 wasn't even an RTS

Holy shit of all the things people have said about DoW3 this is the dumbest.

Please tell me how its not an RTS? I sure hope you are not just spouting that "ITS A MOBA" when it clearly isn't.

You have a base, you make huge armies, you capture points and you have hero units, just because you don't like the game does not mean its "not an RTS"

>>376143310
lmao are you for real
total war is closer to grand strategy than to RTT of all things

>>376143126

In a word:
Macro

Income is slow and units are extremely expensive, so you don't have to focus on macro at all.

They claim they have basebuilding but in reality the basebuilding is so minor and useless that they could have just had every unit come from the main starting building.

>>376143414
It is a moba tho

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>>376142123
>>376141818
The ultimate RTS has already been made.

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>>376142463
I legit think TW got to those numbers becuase previous TW FANS are just glad to finally have their game in a fantasy setting, not becuase they are warhammer fans.

Retribution was perfect, why did they have to go back and change everything

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>>376143418
>total war is closer to grand strategy
Yeah, there sure are a shitton of grand strategy games with real time battles involving tens of thousands of units.

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>>376143560
Superior version

isn't Total War a casual game anyway? it's no where near the complexity of pure RTS games

>>376143485
Base Building is also pointless because you already start with your base at the designated BEST SPOT of the map and would have no reason to build elsewhere unless you are doing really well. Plus there is no incentive to destroy the bases because it's behind the Power Core and all you have to destroy is the Power Core. This game is a fucking MOBA shit show.

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>3 races
>9 maps
>unbalanced as shit
how did I fall for it?

>>376143418
you're either too young or too stupid to frequent the internet, lad

>>376143629
Is that a Stand?

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>>376143485
Sounds like how the Company of heroes series works.
More enphasis on tactics, instead of just making a death stack blob and launching it agaisnt your enemy base.

To be honest. That really doesnt sound bad.
Coh games are amazing and if DoW3 is similiar it sounds like a good game.

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>>376143796
>it's no where near the complexity of pure RTS games
Then why don't you join the TWWH multiplayer and show all those noobs how it's done by using your superior strategic skills acquired by playing the genre that offers superior tactical depth, eh?

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They didn't even include a sexy race in DOW3 it deserves to fail.

>>376141848
Those stats are fun but at the same time its really telling that a game bombed when they're too afraid to release sales numbers. Same thing happened with Dead Rising 4, and both Relic and CV are in the same city.

>>376143965
because I only play games that are recognized as e-sports

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>>376144003
>THAT
>sexy

>>376144052
I don't know whether I should laugh or cry after reading your post.

>wanted to buy it
>PC broke
Not sure if I should be thankful or regret for not being to able to play it while it was alive.

>>376143923

Except there is no tactics because there are so few objectives.

In starcraft, you could take an extra base, you could raid the opposing mineral line, you could launch a full scale attack, you have tons of things you can be working towards and executing.

In dawn of war 1, there are tons of requisition points, so you can attack and claim them or attack the main base, again, tons of things to do.

In DOW3, there are almost no points to attack, and the base is defended automatically by a strong turret. So the only thing you really get to do is sit there and build up a blob army if you are ahead on points, or desperately try to take back a point before their resource advantage gets too high, which is again blob vs blob.

>>376143882
Its a stick figure made out of the little wrappings they use to tie up sliced bread bags.
My friend loves making those and he has a cupboard filled with like 200 of these in different sizes and stances.
Usually takes him 10-15mins to make one like the one in the pic.

>>376143702

Oh sweet memories, walkers looked so clunky and out of the place but i loved that game anyway. Wish im a kid again to nerdgasm over that game once again.

>>376140986
>Already dead in a week
/vg/ general is dead, which is all that matters.
Where the fuck am I supposed to talk about it otherwise? The official forum? Gamefaqs? Reddit
Don't make me laugh.

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RTT > RTS


Pure Darwinism

>>376143629
I bought it because I've played a few TW games before and I know and love the Warhammer setting. Combining the two is just great. Also mods.

>>376141482
Not true. There were plenty of RTS releases within that time frame. And yet they were not successful. Or were just Starcraft 2

>>376143023
This. More specifically an Elite Mod continuation.

>>376143353
>It had no depth, no balance
Sounds like DoW1.
Fun is subjective.

>>376144371
Can't argue with that.

>like Dark Crusade the most
>Firestorm mod breaks the AI so they barely rebuild once you've beaten their army once.

>>376145443
Well I'm glad it continuted to carry on the legacy then.
You DoW1 fags wanted that, right?

I should have waited and purchased prey instead of this shit.

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We're gonna have threads like this all summer.

still no winner yet

>>376144358

literally all 3 of those have better quality discussions on average than /vg/ or /v/

>>376145581
not yet

>>376143550
>being so autistic you post this literally every single day

You need to get fucked my man. Or at least change the fucking filename

>>376144358
steam forums until you get banned.

>>376145763
That's just bait. Don't respond to it.

>>376145742
Then why don't you fuck off there?

Is it possible to have too much dakka?

>>376145840
I know it's bait, but he literally does post it every single day

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/dawn%20of%20war.png/

>>376146025
Yes a lot of samefaggots tend to agree with themselves.

>>376144285
Maybe we were playing different games.
But my experience with starcraft was just people circle jerking each other about efficiensy builds. If you didnt have X workers by the 2 minute mark, you might as well surrender.
And raiding a camp was mostly ignored because the enemy was already pushing on your main base.

Cant really debate you on DoW 3 since I havent played it and seen very little gameplay.

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>>376144358
The threads on here and /vg/ work very seldomly. I wish you guys could stop getting baited trite like dawn of war.png. Its either the same tired MS paint bullshit for the past 3 years or 40k artwork.

Its frustrating, hard to get a read on the meta since every board, fourm and IRC cant get past the shitposting.

>>376140161
literally just make Soulstorm HD + cosmetics, it's practically free money

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>>376146025

Would Juicy Squigs be palatable for humies?

>>376146460
Alright.

No Hrud no buy

>>376146368
>soulstorm

h-h-h-here i go.jpeg

DoW3 died because evryone sperged out about "MUH MOBA!", and the Steam Reviews tanked because faggots with 20 minutes of playtime decided that they knew everything about the game and dragged the score down, leading to RTS fans doing their typical thing of sperging and shouting aboht "WHY ARE THERE NO MORE RTSES!" insteas of olaying the damn game themselves.

Most everyone who shouted MOBA and shit on the game played one game, completely lost, and then started shouting about other things without actually looking into them. They're going to release more maps for free. The same with Elites. And Mod tools are in the game.

DoW3 died because the RTS fanbase, small as it is, has no fucking clue how to look at their own games.

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I know you guys find our insistence annoying, but much like the Imperium we will never quit when the fight matters!

Soulstorm for IG

I'm enjoying the 2v2 multiplayer, having a lot of fun with a friend.

But it's true they could drastically improve the game with a few easy fixes :
- Like removing the whole tower/shield/core and making it a kill every building (slightly buffing building HP except listening post/tower/gates to compensate)
- Paying a good amount of attention to the balance of the game and releasing continuous updates
- Adding more maps
- Making units's power closer to the lore (For exemple making Marines stronger than they are but obviously making them more expensive for balance, it seems silly that they would get beaten by a simple squad of guardian or orks)
- Making a better and more intuitive army painter with more insignas, color patterns etc...

I think it would also be better to separate ressources, for exemple to generate power you don't need to cap points but build generators in your base or something. And in addition not make it such a necessity for the most powerful units, that way you leave different build paths.

>>376146025
In spirit it is correct. One might get burned of the series because they did not like DoW2.

On the other hand, posting this every thread is just a way to get (you)s. Making this image and the ones that usually follow bait.

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>>376146743
>Relic couldn't possibly fuck anything up
>it's everyone else's fault the game is bombing

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>>376146864
>implying I want to learn

>>376143131
>Basebuilding in DoW3 is minimal, barely worth mentioning.
Just like in DoW1

>>376146743
So, basically, you're saying that DoW3 is dying because the fanbase didn't like it? Wow, what a fucking revelation.

>>376147001
>fanbase
The anal and noisy minority

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>>376146743
In other words, they avoided DoW3 because everyone said to wait until expansions.Makes sense, the game itself is threadbare and has a lot of missing quality of life features (keybindings, menus that work etc). People should wait until more content, maps, features get added and bugs get fixed. Or they should wait until the faction they like get added and there is reason for them to be interested.

>>376147097
How can the game be dying if only the "noisy minority" hated it?

>>376143560
is this for honor

>>376146743
Steam reviews had no influence are me. I played through the beta, I saw dev interviews, I've seen preview gameplay, and I made my own opinion of it and I legit hate this game.

>>376147097
>several anal and annoying minorities
FTFY

>>376146864
Yes, there are issues with the game, but instead of sperging out about being too much if an idiot to focus on an Elite, people should go and complain about the ACTUAL FUCKING ISSUES and see if Relic fixes them.

Fuck, even EC is mildly passable now.

>>376147001
Not him but the problem arises with every RTS. the alleged community shits on every game in the genre that comes out, and then complains that no new games are released. Which is a lie.

It even happened with SC2, to the point Brood War is back.

They do not want to play a game that plays the same as the old ones, but they don't want to play a RTS that tries to do things differently either.

>>376147263
Like most Canadian studios, they'll probably stick their fingers in their ears and just fellate their own megre achievements to try impress their publisher so they wont get sacked.

POST IN THE GENERAL YOU AUTISTS

>>>/vg/176046615

>>376144609
That'd be great if anyone played it.

>>376146963
dow1 basebuilding isn't great, they have some fun secondary uses but build orders are too strict

still wayyyyyyyyyyyy better than dow3 though

>>376147263
>and see if Relic fixes them.
Are they going to patch in a non-shit campaign?

Neck yourself shill.

>>376143414
MOBA TRASH SUCKS ASS
KILL YOURSELF SHILL

>>376147181
There were other RTS and all of them are dead.

CoH2 was called "worst thing since Hitler's death" on /v/, but somehow ended up as one of most alive of current RTS of last 10 years.

>>376147736
Not an argument

>>376147664
Is an expansion too far from being a possibility?

>>376146367
Is that an actual objective you have to hold and it fires shit or just useless gated map terrain?

Man I still remember the map with the titan cannon in DC

>>376147990
That is a map set piece in the campaign. It serves no function.

>>376147879
>good goy, pay more money for a not shit and barebones singleplayer mode, you know the thing that despite differences many people remember (and replay) 1 and 2 for.
See >>376147664

>>376148074
Of course.
Silly me.

>WAAAAAAH WHY IS THIS GAME TRYING TO BE DIFFERENT INSTEAD OF JUST ANOTHER STARCRAFT CLONE? (I WOULD SAY DUNE BUT I AM TOO YOUNG AND DON'T KNOW IT)

literally every thread

>>376147652
>secondary uses
What did the Space Marines have outside of Orbital relay that was replaced with the better pod system anyway?

Only Orks and Guard had good base building, rest was cancer

>>376148229
What the fuck are you talking about? People are bitching BECAUSE it's a chinese knock-off Starcraft with baby mode MOBA elements.

Whatever made 1 and 2 unique compared to Starcraft is gone.

>>376148229
name one thing about dow 3 that is excellent

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>>376148152
I think most people are waiting on expansions judging by the steam reviews and charts. Concensus is its a decent RTS but if that faction you like isn't in, then there's nothing worthwhile to keep you playing. Threadbare content is bad only if there is no chance for updates in reasonable span of time. SEGA games on PC tend to have constant updates, even alien colonial marines had updates and content.

>>376148464
>content
I, too, saw the copy pasted content and the horrible animation work of the DLC.

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>>376148437
YOU HAV CHAPLAIN DIOMEDEEES

>>376145742
/vg/ is pretty good if you don't play shit games.

What do you SM players do to counter SS that fucking early in the game?
Killteam just gets fucked in the asshole by them and so do ASM.

>>376148464
Yeah they are going to add Necrons as the first DLC. It's already confirmed if you beat the campaign. It'll probably cost ~$20-$35. They might add some sorta base annihilation mode as a freebee to try and say "here we trieddd" but it'll flop.

>>376146367
I'll probably still get i when I get a new PC, but the current state of he community is just sad.
I mean yeah it's different, but it doesn't look terrible, just not as good or like what people were hoping for.

>DoW3 campaign basically a simplistic tutorial

Multiplayer rts are dead. They shot themselves in the head with this. Muh esports shit. When will this die.

>>376148684
/vg/ is okay if the threads havent involved into secret girl clubs, wanking each others of with their circlejerking, see WoW, see TES.

>>376148598

Cynicism is warranted. We can see and shitpost about it then. TWH2 is also coming out relatively soon and I know you're gonna be around for that shitstorm.

>>376148943
Its already dead. Even Starcraft is dead.

Wait, it was released?

>>376147578
>That'd be great if anyone played it.
Plenty of people are still playing it. Used to have daily noob games in the evening on the official TS, probably still does.

I mean Indrid is still casting games, so it's not dead.

>>376149015
>Cynicism is warranted.
In case of A:CM I really hoped for something better, but the DLC had even worse coding, animations and story than the base game.

>>376148951
I still can't believe Katawa Shoujo Generals have been going on for more than 5000 threads. What the fuck could they have left to discuss.

>>376148951
I shall repeat myself
>/vg/ is pretty good if you don't play shit games.

>>376149271
Personal opinions do not always represent facts.

>>376148787
Its a chance for them to finally finish this gutted version of a game (they made like 3 fucking versions, one was an actual moba). If they don't put their best foot forward, if its just another army and doesn't fix anything on the list of complaints, then I will gladly proclaim it the series dead

>>376149198
Its a glorified chat room.

>>376149434
I'm pretty confident in my taste of games and all the generals I visit there are good.

Those knight house guardsmen were really cool

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>>376149175
At that point Gearbox and SEGA were trying to pass the buck on whom dropped the eggy fart on that mess of a game. Must have been the worse kind of job doing the development for the followup.

Which is why I'm curious about DoW's expansion. I want to see how SEGA and nu-Relic react to this kind of negative publicity. I don't think they have any real reason to do a proper, I'm skeptical that it will make up for lost sales, But do they have any faith in the franchise? Do the devs really care at all or is it just another software project for these people?

>>376146123
>efficiensy
shitskin spotted, but lets continue
>2 minute mark
effectively a pve game before this point because it's not possible to assemble an attack that soon, why the fuck wouldn't you produce workers
remember, resources in stock do not shoot enemies, enemies invested into units do

You are not a strategic genius.

>>376149572
Like sc2 general.

>>376150008
>I want to see how SEGA and nu-Relic react to this kind of negative publicity

Here, this might be what they will say:
Guess people dont want Warhammer/DoW games anymore.

This png should be added to the bingo.

>>376150186
Im fine with that. I'd rather it be dead then them give us this abortion.

>Reminder there will be a DoW 3 comic on 10 of May with the survivors of DoW 2 cast.

>>376146667
>he hasn't played Ultimate Apocalypse
lmao casual

>>376149174
DoW2 Elite Mod? I tried as recently as a week before DoW3's launch and waited for hours in the lobby with nobody joining. This was during regular eastern time evening hours on the weekend. I'd only imagine it's even HARDER to find matches any other time. ~1k-2k players max and how many of that are elite mod? DoW2 is and has been dead. I was one of the top 10 SM players in the US for a long time in vanilla dow 2. Good times. That was hella fun compared to DoW3.

>>376150292
Damage is already done though and since no mod support = the only thing about DoW we will remember is the shitship it sank with

>>376150186
Guess people dont want DoW games anymore.

Fixed. Hardcore WH gronards would buy anything not AoS related if steam charts and ebay is any indication.

>>376148772
Wait for the patch to move them to 4 elite points

>>376150384
>UA
>not casual
Seriously?
Only braindead compstomping scrubs play this

>>376146743
>And Mod tools are in the game.
>>376150443
>no mod support


Which is it?

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>>376150443
There is a map editor already (unsurprisingly most maps don't have turrets nor cores), mod support will ultimately depend on community demand.

The biggest dissapoint is they didnt keep diomedes old VA.

>>376150607
>only the majority of dow fans play this

ok

>>376150448
Shame Space Hulk is dead for a good reason the devs need to neck themselves, such a piss poor display of AI coding turned me down for good, Armada having no SP kills it for me, Vermintide killing itself with the shitty start loot system and no content maps and now DoW 3.

The only saving grace is TWWH but theres already TWWH 2 on the horizon and Im so fucking mad since it will probably have Lizards and Khemri in it... so I might bite the bullet

>>376150292
they should give it to Amplitude

>>376150617
To be fair, the workshop only has maps so far because map editor is limited to terrain and static object placement. I don't think there are enough scripting tools yet to develop custom campaigns and the like yet. It will take a while to get balance mods too.

>>376150748
They didn't even keep Dobson. Fuck this game.

>>376150748
Some anons on /tg/ claim that Diomedes also can do the flipping termie, is it true?

>>376150386
You sure you are talking about Retribution?
Also have you started the mod through it's seperate exe?

I mean my experience is half a year old, but there were plenty of people back then. I mostly played during primetime hours though.
Most of the cornerstones of the community didn't sound like they were jumping ship for DoW3, so I expect them to keep playing. And like I said, it's stil lgetting videos and commentary on high-level play matches.

>>376150854
>tfw no one listens

>>376150902
Must have been on strike. VA work is pretty bad this year, Persona and ME was any indication.

>>376151072
They only got Brain Dobson back, who voices the Devastadors and the Slugga Boyz.

>>376150932
No, he twirls his crozius like a baton and that is about it. 'ard-est elite in the game aside from super-walkers.

>>376151072
No excuse honestly, as there are still plenty of great voice actors that are unknown. See Vermintide. All of them literal whos yet they are fantastic. Yeah it sucks that Dobson was gone, but they could have gotten someone good.

>>376151203
Then someone must edit the 1d4chan page... how da zog you edit a wiki?

>>376150971
100% positive. Just for shits I'm running an open public lobby right now (updated 2.6.1) and the main lobby says 79 people are online. Lol. It's beyond dead.

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>>376150748
>>376150902
>Nicole Oliver doesn't voice Farseer Macha

>>376151345
Well, if they still are doing daily events in their TS I might still stop by for a couple of games. The mod is just that good and a lot of fun if you can talk to the people.

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>>376150607
obvious troll is obvious

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>Hate MOBAs from the very start
>Now every RTS is just a MOBA or MOBA-lite

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>>376151239
The sound director needs a visit from the inquisition, and the writer needs a 5-day phospex bath to put more fire into the lines. VA work is bad enough for anything that isn't orks, and then you have the lack of ambient music and weak-ass weapon noise. The graphics are about the same as previous games but without the sound, the atmosphere that makes it a 40k game is gone.

Its wishful thinking but I would want to see them re-record new unit lines.

DoW3 never was, and never will be a MOBA. Not even MOBA lite.

>>376151652
why is the DoW 1 collection still $40

>>376151617
I'm pretty sure all you are talking about is a small group of mod devs that still play the game. So yes, if you still wanna play against that same ultra small group of extremely high level players who play it still, yes. But NOBODY else plays. I wish it weren't true.

>>376150748
well fuck, I have no reason to play this game thne

>>376151773
So thats why we get cores to destroy, got it.

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flashback dow2 meme

>>376152029
i'm sorry you are too intimidated to play it online, mad cuz bad is a pretty common thing around here though.

>>376151773
Technically it was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRn99jpHkbA

There was, for a short time, a DoW moba by another company before SEGA got Relic and the rights. Taking all of this into account, its fairly obvious DoW3 was a hasty mismash of older work sewn together patchwork that didn't really quite work together.

>>376151970
Hiilariously enough, that fits the play for objectives design GW has been going for. They now sell scenery such as turrets, fortifications and even generators. Those even give bonus saves and additional gameplay options.

So in fact, while it may borrow some ideas from MOBAs, that fits the tabletop even more.

>>376152098
Make a lobby then.

>>376151943
Maybe. Like I said I haven't been playing.

>>376152323
>implying i play games with the casuals on /v/
i'll play with goons if you gave lowtax :tenbux:, go post in the UA thread in private game servers and put "phrenk" at the very END of your post. i also won't play with you unless your SA account is from 2006 or earlier, otherwise that just means you're a SA newfag

>>376142463
TW: Warhammer was dead until it was sold for $12 for an entire month.

>>376151773
That's why the initial release said the Devs were taking primary influence from Mobas and there have been endless articles talking about how it mixes in Moba gameplay and how every single REVIEW mentions it's MOBA mechanics right?

This complaining about it being a Moba didn't come out of no where you know.

Honestly I'm not really bothered by the "MOBA" elements but I'm really disappointed by the sound quality and the fact that each faction is probably going to cost 20-25 bucks, if DLCs can be pirated and played online as easily as TW I would buy the game.

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>>376143825
>Plus there is no incentive to destroy the bases because it's behind the Power Core and all you have to destroy is the Power Core
WHAT?

>>376152702
It still is not one. At the most you could say it is a RTS with MOBA leanings.

Which is what it is. Not a MOBA, not MOBA lite.

>>376152532
reported for spam

>>376144285
>In starcraft

Unless you're grandmaster there's basically no strategy at all other than being efficient with mining and continuously producing units.

DOW3 proved that the RTS and 40K community are the most cancerous community around.

I hope Relic never makes another Dawn of War just to spite all the crybabies.

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>>376153219
>give you all the information needed to play
>you don't meet the requirements so it's time for pic related
TOP KEK

>>376153283
They won't because they'll be going out of business. They made a game that no one wanted, made it with a horrendous art style to attract DOTA faggots, and made a watered down MP mode with little content and a shit story mode. This game is trash, and people complaining are justified in their complaints.

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>Play DoW3
>It's ok, decent game
>Everyone shits on it
>Play DoW1 & 2
>Realize ultimately DoW3 is far more micro intensive than both
>Base building in DoW1 is just as bad despise fans claiming it was a masterpiece in 1.
>DoW2 is still shit but the cover system is nice.
>tfw DoW3 is the best game on release in multiplayer.

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>>376153508
mad cuz bad and can't afford :tenbux:

>>376153449
DotA 2 artstyle before the hattening and source 2 replacing the handcrafted map with tile based shit and removing several ambient effects was god-tier.

>>376153680
>I don't even play the game you're talking about but I'm going to tell you why your criticism about said game is wrong
Just get outta here ya hothead.

>>376153580
What does paying have to do with being a shitter or not?

gr8 b8 though, keep going

Can someone explain why there are so many autistic whiners complaining about this game?

Its not even legit criticism, There are people who legitimately feel their ego is insulted when people talk about fun experiences in the game.

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>>376153787
>i don't have a SA account before 2006 to prove i'm not a casual /v/ newfag, so i'm just gonna keep repeating "bait", this elevates me to a position of superiority and means i win

My issue with the game is full retail price, I can't justify it anymore.

>>376153863
>There are people who legitimately feel their ego is insulted when people talk about bad things in the game.
Woah

>>376153863
the genre has been more or less broken once BW and its success became the measuring stick.

From then on, the RTS """""fans""""" have been complaining non stop about, in no particular order:
the death of C&C
the lack of new RTS (when it is a lie)
the fact every RTS is a copy of SC (and will then procede not to play any RTS that plays differently)
DotA and its clones

>>376153924
But you did not answer my question though.

Poor showing, I know you can do better.

>>376152896
It's basically destroy HQ mode

>>376153863
The community for RTS is as retarded as the MMO community.

Babies raised on Starcraft/WoW.

Bored of the same shit but too scared to get out of their comfort zone.

So they shit on any game that plays like what they were raised on, and shit on games that try to be different.

Everyone hated DOW2 when it came out, but that was kind of legit since it released on fucking GFWL.

This autism around DOW3 is just babies being babies.

>>376154256
Lurk moar newfag.

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>>376154113
>The RTS formula was perfected years ago with Supreme Commander but it doesn't matter because the target demographic is dead
I hate this reality so much sometimes.

>>376153863
Asperger syndrome patients form a large part of the Wh40k audience.

No, I'm not saying this just becaue this is 4chan and "everthing I don't like is SJW/autism". I'm serious. From interactig with the fanbase both onlinea dn offline, I've met more more or less functional medically confirmed autists than in any other hobby or group I've been a part of.

>>376139989
I actually liked the campaign on hard mode. Very challenging. Now im just trying to unlock all the stuff playing against hard mode AI. Im too much of a pussy to play against other players in rts games though.

>>376151652
almost no one plays online. There's about 1000 peak players online on average every day on SS, about 100 player play multiplayer.....

>>376154449
Nobody played SupCom on release because it was too different.

And the target demographic is not dead. It just cannot agree on what make a good RTS.

>>376152616
was dead?

it was still them most played total war game.

>>376154734
supcom had performance/netcode issues at release

>>376154430
Being a newfag or not has no bearing on ones capacity to play a game though.

That just goes to show that you do not want to play. Noone would demand for so many requirements if they were ready to prove their mettle, as it were.

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>>376146801
>GREEN'D
Git zogged, humie

>>376144358
>Where the fuck am I supposed to talk about it otherwise? The official forum? Gamefaqs? Reddit
>Don't make me laugh.

Gamereplays.org seems to be getting along with the game pretty well. Already have some basic guides going, an armoury containing units and their stats, tips and pretty decent forums filled with two groups, DoW1 players and GR.org circlejerk.
As long as you avoid the latter, it should be a good place to set up.

And if you don't believe me these people are legit, just look up their DoW1/2 sections or C&C/BFME sections.

>Trukk guide
>https://www.gamereplays.org/dawnofwar3/portals.php?show=page&name=dawnofwar3-jellys-ork-turkkin-blobstompa&home

>>376154910
Lurk moar newfag.

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>>376154910
>RRRREEEEEEEEEEEE WHY WON'T ANYONE PLAY WITH ME

>>376155047
Go on

>>376155154
>implying I am the same person
>implying I even have DoW1 installed I don't even remember where I put the discs

>>376148636
>tactical dreadnought armour is LITERALLY regular power armour until it gets to the shoulders and upwards
fucking joke

>Make Warhammer 40k game
>Don't include chaos
Why is this allowed?

>>376155367
is she trying to reference the LOTR movies or just retarded

>>376155367
>>376155769
TLDR version?

>>376155769
good lord that's a massive amount of autism and mental gymnastics on the part of the "THERE ARE FEMALE SPACE MARINES" moron

>>376155905
some guy who makes female space marines.
more here
>>>/tg/53097812

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>>376155976

>>376155367
sjws are so dumb, they probably think space marines are the only human faction. It's why there's fags trying to make space marines women.

>>376149035
This shit is way "deader" than Starcraft

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>>376156374

>>376156285
SJWs practically have no problems with sisters of battle being female only.

>>376156379
So it is. SC (1 or 2) does not pull the numbers or money it used to, let alone the kind LoL or DoTA pulled

>>376156606
Starcraft was never popular because of its RTS, it was popular because of its fucking modded game community with tower defense and shit like that.

It's fucking amazing people still believe Starcraft RTS itself was what made it popular.

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>>376156653

>>376156728
>what is ROK

>>376156728
Yeah those Koreans went apeshit over dem custom games.

>>376153530
>Base building in DoW1 is just as bad despise fans claiming it was a masterpiece in 1.
>Just as bad

Every building was focused on its purpose, to an extent that a single building like DoW2's couldnt ever manage without becoming a clusterfuck.

They enabled not only units but upgrades for those units and abilities for the race, while a tech building provided more wide-ranging upgrades that had more depth than a fucking puddle that is increasing health and damage, leaders could be upgraded, powers unlocked, what you picked first mattered.

Squad upgrades that were unlocked by certain buildings completely changed the squad instead of DoW3's "Its shootier now".

Buildings werent there just to build stuff either, IG could garrison infantry inside them and move them around the map or just have them shoot from inside, Eldar could make their buildings fucking invisible or teleport them around, Tau had to choose between two mutually exclusive buildings to get their last tech level which changed pretty much the entire race, every Ork building could shoot, Necron relied heavily on Generators which are now pretty much gone.

And jesus fuck you could build defenses, like, holy fuck, what sort of madman would allow the building mechanic to have an impact on the fighting.

tl;dr You're an idiot who obviously never played DoW1 and should just kill yourself.

>>376156949
popular with a different tribe of slant eyes, most TD and other custom gametypes i played were chinese made.

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>>376155689
>dreadnought armour

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>>376156542
Its fairly easy to mistake SoB as female space marines.

>>376157837
The actual name of Terminator Armour is Tactical Dreadnought Armour

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>>376139989
>Already dead in a week
Is it for real? I haven't played since pic related.

>>376156949
Nobody really cares about gook popularity. The only popularity that matters is in North America and western Europe. Blizzard wouldn't have even bothered to make a sequel if the gooks were the only ones that bought and played it.

>>376158890
Not their fault inferior whitebois couldn't beat them :)

>>376159132
Fucking shit. I always wanted to get in early on a new rts but this is crazy. Why the drop?

>>376160296
Normal for any game.

>>376159132
That's not that bad for a RTS. SC2 active playerbase is around that not counting China/Korea

>>376160296

It's just the normalfag wave. They usually play a game for about a day or two and never touch it again.

>>376160549
that game came out in 2010

>>376160549
For a game in an established franchise, that hasn't had an entry for 6 years and had hype, it's god damn horrendous and Relic is doing insane damage control into overdrive.

>>376140161
I want a titus deathwatch game purging tyranids or something

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>>376150071
You are missing the point.
If theres only only clear path to achieve your goals, is it really strategy or are you just going thru the motions?

In example, whats the strategy of the first 5 mins of the match you are always doing the same efficiency circle jerk that everyone is?

Im not saying starcraft is a bad game.
But dont use it as the poster boy for what RTSes should strive to be. Theres a reason starcraft 2 failed hard even in korea.
Its not a bad game, but the build up is absolutely boring and for the most part.

>Got a new PC for all the upcoming 40k games that were revealed last year
>Eternal Crusade is garbage
>Space Hulk is dead and bland
>Dawn of War 3 is kinda boring and severely overpriced for what it delivers, just fucking make DoW 1 2.0 fuck
>Inquisitor Martyr looks bland as all hell so far

Fuck man, why can't they just make a decent fucking 40k game?

Dow3 is pretty fun desu.

>>376161654
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
SHUT YOUR FACE SHILL PIECE OF SHIT

>>376154449
>>376154734
Noone played Sup Com because it was soulless.

It is a good game don't get me wrong but noone could connect with it, units not having unique responses, every faction having most of the same unit roster and how boring maps were turned off the more "casual" or core RTS players, those that stayed stayed for the mechanics, but an RTS can't endure just by mechanics alone.

Sins of a solar empire has a lot more charm and personality and it's a shame it never got a campaign because that was the only thing missing.

>>376162027
I'm enjoying it. Why are you mad that someone enjoys the game?

>>376162027
Your shitpost is missing a frog image.
>>376161514
>Dawn of War 3 is kinda boring and severely overpriced for what it delivers, just fucking make DoW 1 2.0 fuck
Fuck off. Remasters are the current cancer trend that needs to die.

>>376162135
Sins of a Solar Empire and Supreme Commander have about the same amount of soul.

The former's story is an unapologetic rip-off of EVE Online.
The latter's story is an unapologetic rip-off of Metal Fatigue.

>>376162342
I meant a new story but the gameplay remains the same with maybe some slight tweaks.

>>376162809
>>The latter's story is an unapologetic rip-off of Metal Fatigue.
because both were so story rich it must be a rip off, at least say something believable like Earth 2150

Im about to start DoW 1 plus expansions for the first time.

Is there any particular content i should avoid? Should i play on normal or does it have some really bullshit parts?

Why did the dow2 haters let their game die if they love it so much? I don't get this.

Also, how come I never see someone mentioning ashes of the singularity? Is it not a good RTS because it sure looks like supreme commander.

>>376163264
>for the first time
this should be a permabannable offense, since you are obviously underageB& if you haven't played DOW1, it's thirteen years old, it came out the same year /v/ was made.

>>376163461
Im 24 and i never played anything warhammer related.
Only RTSs i played are AoE, AoE2 and Stronghold.
Im not a big rts guy

>>376163201
I haven't played through the Earth series.

However:
The standard human faction.
The separatist cyborg faction.
The faction that uses leftover alien tech.
One faction uses an AI.
Said AI orchestrates everything to make sure the aliens can come back.
The original game cuts off with peace caused by the alien invasion and the AI
flipping them the finger.

The only non-used aspect was the sibling relationship between the protagonists and they salvaged even that in SupCom2 (well, classmates over there).

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>>376153863
>>376154113
>>376154339
>>376154459
>I-IT'S THE PLAYERS FAULT
>THE COMMUNITY IS SHIT
>THEY COMPLAINERS ARE MENTALLY ILL
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I love this so much I can't even quantify it. You faggot shills were so smug pre-release, shitting up the catalog with fake hype threads and shouting about how great of a hit this was going to be. Guess things didn't turn out so well for your shitty wannabe MOBA, did they?

>>376140774

they should have been run out of the business from the dawn of DoW1 really, considering their blatant Eldar dicksucking bias in that game, as well as refusing to patch and properly balance the rest, simply because they were too busy jerking off to their Blum of War 2 development.

So when do we finally realize and accept that Warhammer games have always been at absolute best 8/10, and generally more like 6 or 7?

The best Warhammer games are still just average games as a whole.

>>376163264
You should be perfectly fine on normal. My 7 year old ass back then could handle it back then, surely you can as well.

Also, don't bother patching any of the games aside from Soulstorm and play through each of them without expansions first.

So play through vanilla DoW1, then get through Winter Assault, then relive the bullshit that was Dark Crusade release and if you still like the games, play Soustorm to your heart's content, it's the same, just more of it, better balanced and all that.

Why play the vanilla DoW and such as well and not just skip to Soulstorm?
Well, the game changes rather drastically and vanilla DoW1 is the game that DoW3 (and most likely, its expansions as well) is build upon.
A longer experience and you won't become one of the zombie hordes full of retards who have never played a DoW game before, only got some Humble Bundle key and then puked crap like Ultimate Apocalypse all over it.

>>376164306
>Dawn of MOBA III flops
>shills switch to "W-Warhammer games are always bad anyway"

>>376140161
kek it would die in 2 days

>>376164414

Not shilling, I've thought Warhammer games have been unremarkable since day one. I'm just trying to understand why people keep getting excited about them when they have always been just average at best and have never lived up to any hype at all.

>>376164556
Because DoW1 was not average at all.

>>376140341
stop lying faggot like every retard who did not played dow3

>>376163264

There's nothing super difficult. If your ranged units get entangled in melee, run away; don't just sit there. Tie up enemy ranged units with your own melee guys, the AI won't run. Build up an honor guard before doing stronghold missions in DC and SS. If you're going to play SS, keep your expectations low.

>>376163461

Retard. Was this supposed to be funny?

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>>376144082
>Tfw sisters wont come to your planet and give you a foot job with her toned feet

>>376164709

DoW 1 is 13 years old, and it's one game out of about 40 released in the past 20 years.

So a 2.5% success rate then? We're cool with that?

>>376164709
There wasn't anything notable or unique about DOW1 except it was 40K.

>>376165526
the squad based combat, different resource gathering system and units having both melee and ranged attack was.

>>376139989
Inquisitor looks like dogshit

>>376165526
No.

Nothing about DoW1 was unique or interesting, its been done before.

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>Inquisitor got a badass chalise in the collectors edition
>Shitty resin
>Probably cant even drink out of it

Any way to fetch one of those bad boys that is made to be used as a cup?

I've played some SC2 and whatnot, I feel sorta kinda comfortable with RTS

Can I just jump into a 3v3 and not get yelled at? I play space marines.

>Watch DoW1
>Standard RTS but 40K license

>Watch DoW2
>Boring as fuck

>Watch DoW3
>Basically DoW1 with hero's.

Not sure what the big deal is.

>>376164408
will do this

>>376165928
pretty much.
>>376165969
people here love hyperbole.

Inquisitor Martyr got a huge update today which added the death cult assassin, games shaping up to be pretty fun.

>>376165969
>watch

is it sad that im not even sure if this is bait at this point?

>>376166184
oh shit I need to stop playing DoW3 and try that again. Is the assASSin fun?

>>376143923
COH also has directional cover, and you can do things like use units as mobile bases (tank hull downs), emplacements. DOW3 is missing some if not all of these things.

>>376146743

I played the beta and even bought the game and I can 100% tell you that the game is a fucking MOBA. Everything about it plays so much like a MOBA it's not even funny.

>>376146667
>Spot the DCfag that's still autistically screeching about Soulstorm years later
There's one in every thread.

>>376165526
>>376165784
Not only does this not deny the other guy's point it also tells me you have no concept of what innovation really is.
There was nothing quite like Dawn of War before it launched, the quality of a game is not measured in how much wheels it invented.

Something being done before might as well not have existed if no one heard of it, what truly brings innovation forward is the quality of its application, not the innovation itself, or as history would have it, the winners write the books.

>>376166546
you can use trukks and falcons as mobile reinforcement points and the game clearly has some forms of directional cover in the eldar shield system.

>>376166802
>Nothing like DoW before it launched.

Confirmed baby that never played RTS during the Golden Period of WestWood.

DOW1 felt more barebones standard RTS then those older RTS games, thats not really an insult since i don't consider complexity good in and of itself.

But DoW1 wasn't anything special about from standard RTS+40K license.

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>>376141482
>It's not as big as starcraft
>dead

pic related.

>>376146838
>- Making units's power closer to the lore (For exemple making Marines stronger than they are but obviously making them more expensive for balance, it seems silly that they would get beaten by a simple squad of guardian or orks)

marines are already most expensive starting unit in a game, and they have most hp

>>376167025
that it wasn't trying to be SC/AoE/C&C like everyone else is itself unique

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>>376155689
To be fair, Terminator armor leggings don't look all that different from regular power armor except maybe some minor detailing like the servos. The arms on Diomedes actually looks like he can fit the armor as opposed to the typical super hunched appearance that would have the Marines dislocating shoulders to accommodate.

Make his leg just bulkier and a slightly larger torso piece and Diomedes would look very much in line with other Terminators sans retarded arms.

>>376167025
not really no. No other game had that kind of cinematic gameplay where you could take the camera and zoom in and change angles. Dawn of war 1 also didn't have resource gathering like other RTS games
>inb4 oil derricks.

Squad based soldiers whose gears you could customize on the fly were pretty neat.

>>376167025
Nice non-argument
I see how you cleverly avoided mentioning a single game whatsoever
Are you telling Red Alert or C&C were quite like DoW?
I didnt know there were squads and control points in Westwood games.
You're not talking to a RTS layman you fucking faggot

>>376148636
>gabe goes to read his last rites
>diomedes is smashing orks and elves all alone.
pretty based.

>>376166356
She is, very different too since the sniper can take cover.

>>376167381
hey oil derricks were like control points
but not really because you could destroy them.

video games are too expensive

most likely result will be less AAA video games and more pay to win trash than ever

blame jew publishers expecting profits to constantly rise, which with an art form is impossible

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>>376155689
"Dreadnought Armour"

Control/Resource points is no different then standard-fare resources thats simply not on the edges of a map.

To argue these were innovative is stretching it.

>>376167658
that's what terminator armor is called.

>>376167768
but the gameplay around them changed completely differently, economy harassment was different because your points could be overrun far more easily.

>>376144948

Any games you could recommend as intro for the genre?

>>376167949
It's called Tactical Dreadnought Armour, not Dreadnought Armor. It's significant diffrence.

>>376168143
the guy said tactical tho.

>>376167658
>>376157837
I don't even agree with him, but you niggas dumb. Like "I won't even fact check myself before posting" dumb.

>>376168143
That's what he said, ace.

>>376167949
The feel was slightly different but not enough to really differentiate it from standard RTS.

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>>376168143

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>>376155689
It's not as squat as it could be - nothing is in this game - but it's not a far cry from its reference.

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>Terminator armor
>jump's around like a grasshopper

>>376140161
I would play a Space Marine sequel. Just don't have another shit final boss fight PLEASE. Needs more Dialogue from the baddies as well.... SPPPAAACEE MUHRRRINE

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They finally nailed the glory of delicious, pert Eldar ass in DoW3.
That's all that matters.

>>376169583
Relic have really nailed Orks and Eldar.

They have to lift up their game with Spehz Mehrines.

But then its hard to do space marines interesting.

>>376164152
Still not a MOBA. Also, you don't refute anything I said. The RTS community, and I use that word loosely, cannot agree on what makes a good RTS, but will shit on any game that comes out. And many have in the past years.

In the end, those games die because the public for it is too divided and incapable of moving on from their chosen game, wether that game is Dune, C&C, Stacraft or whichever.

Give them a remaster and they will shit on it. Give them a new game and they will shit on it.

>>376169824
>But then its hard to do space marines interesting
How you would do it, anon?
>'ard mode: They are still Blood Ravens.

>>376143023
>muh retreat button
How was this ever a good thing? If you fucked you, you should lose units and ground and not press your get out of jail free button and run home.
This mechanic alone sapped every fun out of the battles.

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>>376168821
The Emperor's Gift, chapter 26

>>376151698
im pissed how i cant figure out whats firing anymore just from sound. dow2 you knew how bolters and the like sounded and was great for catching 2v1s early if you heard a different weapon join the fray. everything sounds too samey in 3

>>376170420
Oh god, now I am supposed to justify his moba animations.

When was that book published?

>>376150771
>Probably have lizards

Anon, you're really far behind.

>>376170848
If it makes you feel better it's Grey Knight nonsense, which is a few tiers higher than typical 40k nonsense.

The ork missions were pretty fun.
>all that banter between gorgutz and the grots.
>grots saying that they are scared and need big gorgutz to rescue them so they can blow up a cannon.
>>376170552
the bolters sound literally the same, but the SM voice acting is pretty bad.
>>376170357
you lose ground when you retreat dumbass. losing models and reinforcing them costs resources.

I played in the ESL dow3 tourney today. I really like this game and I think it's grat.

>>376170981
>but the SM voice acting is pretty bad.
I would say lame, except Devastators who are voiced by Brian Dobson.

And yes, orks are da best in the singleplayer

>>376170938
Whoa there, that's yiff nonsense, not GK nonsense. That's Logan Grimnar running around in Terminator armour.

>>376171028
No need to hide. The game is barebones right now but an expansion might make it truly good.

You know, just like the original.

>>376170981
nah bolters sound really weak, especially heavy bolters they just sound slightly faster

>>376170981
Yeah for 5 minutes, but since you never really lose your army, both players just run in circles trying to cap points.
I like an all out fight more then this poke fest were you have to beat your enemy through attrition nearly every time.
The cover system is cool and all, but the battles lost a lot of its action. It's just terribly slow micro and pacing likewise.

>>376171028
it's pretty alright.
No big glaring balance issues and good performance from a relic game is surprising.
>>376171225
Macha bullying gorgutz was fun too.

>>376171413
regular bolters sound the same heavy bolters sound kinda weak.
Eldar weaponry sounds great though, as do the banshees and taldeer.

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>>376168529
the models werent true-scale so it did make them look weird sometimes, the hunched appearance is because of the hood and just general massiveness of the armour around the shoulders and head. but TDA doesnt taper in around the chest or abdomen, it just turns the SM into a solid block of armour. you see what i mean if you look at the regular terminator elite squad, it just looks really off. the space marines are all around quite badly done compared to the orkz and eldar in DoW3. and dont even mention angelos and his centurion sized and looking armour thats actually just regular terminator armour but somehow not bullshit, that also made him the size of a primarch.

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>>376157837
you morons

>>376165969
Most of the people complaining never even played DoW 1 on release. They've only played the heavily patched version with all the expansions. DoW 1 was pretty bad at release and so was DoW 2.