Greetings, mortal. Are you ready to die?

You cant kill me if I am invincible

IDDQD

>>376132516
That game was so confusing on where to go. Even with a guide i still have trouble.

I would, but I'm too busy getting lost.

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>Hexen thead

Cleric best class. Also, I would fucking kill for poster of pict related

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Baratus a best

>>376133880
>3/4 stats maxed
How can other classes even compete?

>tfw too stupid to beat HeXen expansion

>>376132516
Since the day i was born

No, but thanks for the offer.

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>>376134091
>3/4 stats maxed
>but doesn't start with an infinite ammo railgun that pierces through enemies

When will STRfags learn?

Hexen 2 was the best. Zig zagging made you go super fast and you could bunny hop as well.

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>>376134907
while you were busy whittling down your first enemy with that puny wand, Im already halfway done with the first stage faggot

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>>376132516
>implying

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>>376135002
Hexen 2 would've been a lot better if its locations were not based on real life civilizations. After Heretic and Hexen running around not-Europe, and not-Egypt and such was boring. Heretic was really cool about this.

>ravaged elven city filled with the undead
>traveling down a huge mountain in Hell
>underwater lair compromised of see-through domes

I really need to replay Heretic 2 one of these days.

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>>376135270
>Barafags
Not even once.

>>376134907

>railgun
>basic enemies require 5+ shots

tedious as FUCK. fighter every time

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>>376135270
>>376134907
*unleashes ghosts*

>>376133552
>>376133784
>>376134152

lol

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>Design
Korax > D'Sparil > Eidolon

>Boss Fight
D'Sparil > Eidolon > Korax

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>>376135794
I don't understand this picture.

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>Hexen's "puzzles"

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>>376132516
Fucking damn it, Hexen 3 and Heretic 3 would've be awesome if they made it in idtech 5 or 6. I hate that they forgot these IPs.
And Edge of Chaos looks ok to meh. They should have going for how Ruiner mod looks like

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>>376135871
>Serpent ' 'Riders' '
>only the youngest actually rides one

>>376135871
>Serpent Riders
>only D'Sparil rides a serpent

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>>376136074
>>376136089
They were initially designed to be robed wizards that rode serpents but evidently that changed in Hexen. As you can see in the ending screen of Hexen Korax is, or was, actually what we now know as the Heresiarch. The monster we got as the final boss was originally the mount like the Chaos Serpent in Heretic.

>>376136264
ending screen of Heretic

>>376136074
>>376136089
In my headcanon Eidolon would "ride" Korax

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>>376136073
We got DOOM, Shadow Warrior 1/2, like, two Wolfensteins iirc and System Shock is in the works.
FPS remakes are in these days, so Heretic is not yet dead.
With casualisation, good luck with HeXen with its "1/9 of a puzzle has been solved in wolf chapel" though.

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>>376136335
Pic related was the original idea.

>>376136494

That's just adorable. Like a kid riding on his dad's shoulders.

>>376136494
My guess is that they felt that would be too similar to D'Sparil?

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>>376133552
>a door has opened somewhere

The music in this game was great. Every track was dark and moody but there was still a tune to it so it was more than just atmospheric noise.

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>>376132516
>no remakes of Hexen
>still no fantasy based co op horde mode FPS
>Vermintide exists, but it's very limited with a simple melee system and characters that are mostly very similar
>still no fantasy based competitive FPS in general
You've had twenty years since Hexen, game industry. Just give me a co op horde mode and I'll be happy.

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>>376136640
I don't think Raven ever said why they changed it. The story says all three appear as robed wizards who ride serpents for mount, hence their name. I think they just wanted to make it more interesting and change Korax and Eidolon.

the proof that the Heresiarch was originally Korax is all there in game too.

>appeared in Heretic's ending, no reason a sub-boss would
>looks incredibly similar to D'Sparil
>constant talking/chanting/taunting during fight
>has his own gimimick spell (Invulnerability as opposed to Teleportation) on top of regular attack spells
>summons Dark Bishops when low on health, like D'Sparil summoning in Disciples (which are similar enemies in and of themselves)
>almost the exact same death animation where they explode leaving other their skeleton behind

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Why did they had such awesome box art? Id and Raven had such awesome boxarts in those years, and nowadays there's almost no boxart in modern videogames as awesome as back then
>>376136351
I don't know what would be worse: doing a reboot of both games with modern gameplay and graphics (which, of course, old gamers that played the first games when they were published will complain and won't like them) or that the IPs will be forgotten forever.

>>376136809
>horde mode
>not co-op first person dungeon crawling

>>376136494
D'awwww

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>>376132516
Eat shit

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>>376137543
>co-op first person dungeon crawling maps
>maps which play out like Left 4 Dead campaigns and tell brief stories
>Killing Floor style wave survival maps
>character customization for each class
>purchase different weapon loadouts and some limited support items (health potions, scrolls, lockpicks, etc)
It's basically my dream game. You could have years worth of content for this kind of game, so long as you keep making new stuff.

>>376136809
>>still no fantasy based co op horde mode FPS
I wish the Doom community cared about Hexen. Co-op still doesn't work properly, items aren't saved between sessions, shit desyncs all the time, you can't even load or save without doing some black magic

>>376138008
>Killing Floor style wave survival maps
>purchase different weapon loadouts and some limited support items (health potions, scrolls, lockpicks, etc)
Look up Stronghold .wad for Doom

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>>376136669
Yeah, Hexen's soundtrack is great.

https://a.pomf.cat/gnryca.ogg
https://a.pomf.cat/rejlem.ogg
https://a.pomf.cat/bkmqsv.ogg
https://a.pomf.cat/xpbehe.ogg
https://a.pomf.cat/epkcff.ogg
https://a.pomf.cat/lsetnl.ogg

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>tfw Hexen will never be revived

>>376138570
What would you prefer?

>Remake (same game just with improved graphics/mechanics/etc)
>Reboot (start everything from scratch)
>Sequel

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>Raven will forever be Activision's Cowadooty bitchboy

>>376132516
Hexen 2 was much better.

>>376139287
all of them
>>376138445
>that pic
that was really a mean joke

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>>376138147
Well, I know what I'm going to do this weekend.

>>376139287
>>376139470
Hexen already got a sequel, unless you mean direct sequel to what happened in hexen 1.

>>376139712
I said yes to a sequel/remake/reboot of the 1st and 2nd.
Anything would be good for me (if it's very well made, of course)

>>376139712
That's possible. Or it could a sequel to Portal of Praevus where the souls of each rider were set free. That right there sets up up to three games.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXLPJH-JOLc

>>376132516
Yep. Hurry up, damn you!

>>376138445
I'm still upset about this

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>>376133880
> game stats panel says magic is minimal

> Every weapon beyond the first uses magic

>>376143106
I imagine them as enchanted by magic, hence why they're still usable without mana unlike other mana-costing weapons.

>>376133221
That cheat killed you if you used it in hexen or heretic noob

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>>376144207

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*blocks your path*
*reflects your attack*
*fireballs your shit*

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>>376138445
fuck you activision

>>376144590
*throws flechette*

>>376139287
unironically the d44m treatment, except with good multiplayer

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There needs to be more dark fantasy games like hexen 2.

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>>376143106
>that pic

>>376143106
thats one leathery looking dick

So what music are you supposed to listen while playing Hexen?

>>376135270
>>376135794
>baratus' bare fucking hands kill much faster than parias' morning star
it's not fucking fair

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>>376144590
These motherfuckers I swear

A swarm of them on the hardest difficulty made me want to throw my computer off a roof.

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*blocks your path*

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>>376145887

>>376136351
Honestly assuming they did a better job of telling you WHAT you'd just done, but otherwise left the levels sprawling and mazelike, I think it would be fine.

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>>376145596
>added bonus of dealing double damage every third successful punch
Baratus is effectively Doomguy on a Berserk Pak 24/7; not mention hes faster too even without the Boots of Speed.

>>376136351
I rather have hexen 2 exploring a ruined medieval landscape and deserted towns.

>>376146246
Baratus vs Doomguy with zerk pack vs Ranger with quad damage, who wins?

>>376146246
>>added bonus of dealing double damage every third successful punch
this is a thing? god damn, how CAN other classes compete?

can't fucking stand hexen mang

>>376146546
A few of the weapons in Hexen had secondary effects.For instance Frost Shards could be used in melee range to deal much greater damage, as powerful as Timon's Axe, making the spell much better than at range. Or the Serpent Staff sucking the life from the enemy to transferring it to you instead of firing twin poison bolts if used in melee.

>>376146802
intredasting

>>376146546
Yeah, go punch an enemy three times without missing. The third punch has a different animation and sound effect while dealing double damage.

>>376143106
It's more like "ranged potential" I guess. Not that the fighter's weapons are weak by any means, you just have to git gud at juking and close range dodging. Once you do that he can absolutely WRECK SHIT.

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>>376145887
*flails axe*

>>376146418
As powerful as Baratus's fists are, the damage they do is nowhere near that of quad damage'd axe.

Give him a Tome of Power and it's gonna be a more fair fight oh wait you can't

>>376147763
Bright Crucible on hardest felt almost impossible.

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>>376144590
*fires wraithverge into wall*

>>376148328
It is hidden, and called "crucible" for a fucking reason

Its too bad Raven Software is stuck making Call of Duty DLCs and zombie modes, but I'm not even sure if they original people that made Hexen are even there anymore.

>>376132516
What am I looking at here? What is Hexen? Where should I begin if I want the best experience?

>>376149256
You can start with Heretic which is Doom with magic items, then you can go onto Hexen. Or you can just jump into Hexen. Doesn't really matter.

>>376149256
Get WAD files from Heretic and Hexen.
Feed them to GZDoom.
Play Heretic first, then Hexen.

Do note that episodes 4-6 of Heretic and Deathkings of the Dark Citadel are irrelevant to the story - although the story is so thin that almost nobody cares anyway.

Heretic 2 and Hexen 2 are quite different games and opinions on them differ.

>>376149256
http://www.mediafire.com/file/edy3dhdbp33pdg7/IWADS.zip
Here, this should contain all the doom, heretic, hexen, hexen DD, and strife wads. One of these iwads is a version older than the latest version, but you can patch it yourself.

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>>376149256
That's Korax
HeXen is a series of games by Raven software.
There's:
Heretic
HeXen: Beyond Heretic
HeXen: Deathkings of the Dark Citadel
HeXen 2
HeXen 2: Portal of Prraevus
Heretic 2

Most people like the first HeXen and it's the most recognized.
You can play the first 3 games in GZDoom or you can the get doesbox versions on Steam. Hexen 2 is also there but not Portal of Praevus or Heretic 2 for some reason. There is a source port for Hexen 2 called Hammer of Thyrion that's probably the best modern way to play.
I personally like all the games except Heretic 2.

>>376148328
Wings of Wrath help a lot. Just remember to never stop moving and strafing.

>>376149756
>Deathkings of the Dark Citadel are irrelevant to the story
It's actually a straight continuation of Hexen. Hell, so is ep.4-6 of Heretic, which has Corvus wandering various ruined planets that the Riders destroyed in the past trying to find his way back home, which is shown in the Heretic 2 intro cinematic.

>>376149581
>>376149756
>>376149903
>>376150370
Wait, this is straight up a Doom 1 mod? People still play this? You can't even look up or down, it's not even true 3d, the z-plane is fake

eewwwww grandpa games.

>>376151545
Heretic isn't a doom mod because it doesn't require doom. It's called a doom clone because gameplay is very similar to doom and even uses a modified doom engine, but is more fantasy and magic rather than science fiction and demons.

>>376151545
There were plenty of games made on the doom engine back in the day. Hexen and Heretic are probably the best ones aside from Doom itself.

>>376151545
It's not a "Doom 1 mod", it's a separate game using the same engine with a few enhancements. People still play it for the same reason they still play Doom.

Also, you can look up and down if you play with a modern source port.

>>376151789
So it's an ARPG without true 3D? Does it even have dialogue? BAKA this is why Skyrim is so good, Todd knows what's up

>>376152401
A source port? Damn this sounds good. Does it have the same AESTHETICS?

>>376150370
What was wrong with Heretic 2? I thought it was a great game in it's own right, despite the inexplicable jump to 3rd person.

It had probably some of the coolest environments, lore, and jumping around and shooting things with lightning is really fun.

Also the multiplayer was the fucking shit.

>>376152689
The fishman city was amazing and that staff lightsaber combat is the best.

>>376152547
You can run it in 320x200 with no texture filtering for 90s aesthetics, yes, but it's a bit masochistic.

I've got a Hexen server up using Zandronum if anyone wants to play. Server name is Bloodye it's currently coop.

>>376152436
It has no RPG elements whatsoever. It's a dark fantasy FPS.

I liked heretic but couldn't get into hexen. It was way too puzzle filled. Heretic was awesome though, I'd love another game like it where you're a powerful mage without also being crippled in other ways for "balance".

>>376155165
Especially when you start using items that power-up your arsenal for a limited time.

>>376155861
What I'm saying is usually mages in games are weak whereas in heretic you can sprint around and beat niggas with a staff if you have to. Powerups like that are because it's a doom-clone.

>>376136089
oh they ride them alright
all night long

>>376149903
>no chex quest 1 wad
disappointing

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>that sound when you pick them up
>that sound when you use them

>>376158283
HA HA HA

>>376158794
I liked that that laugh also plays when you use the Chaos Device

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>>376158794
GRAAHHH

why are doom clones so fun?

>>376160921
Because Doom is fun.

>>376160921
They had something that was already amazing to build off.

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>Heretic and Hexen had a gritty shithole world and we had to travel through horrible dungeons spooky castles, perfectly fitting the low fantasy theme
>Hexen 2 had thematic locations from real life (aztec, greek, etc) including "lel travel 1000 to ancient notegypt to solve a puzzle"
Dear god what a waste

*chains rattling*

>>376155165
>I'd love another game like it where you're a powerful mage without also being crippled in other ways for "balance".
Try the Wrath of Cronos mod for Hexen, it has compatibility patches for the other IWADs too, and the mage and necromancer are pretty nuts.

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>Raven will never make another game that's not Call of Duty

>>376152689
nothing inherently
I just didn't like the perspective and style change is all
It's still a decent game in its own right I suppose.
A bit annoying to run on modern systems because of the sparse community

Is HeXen balanced in NM at all like Heretic is, or is it just for speedrunning like Doom?
Black Plague was one of the more fun games I've played in a long time, and I want more like it

>>376139287
I'd like Heretic :D !

>>376165405
>speedrunning Hexen

topkek

HO HO HO HA HA HA