*ruin your party dynamic* pssh nothing personal, Joker

She makes the party more dynamic by adding a straight edge into a group of off-beats.

Hifumi should've been in the party.

>>376126964
best girl

>>376126964
That's Futaba

For proof of this look at palace 4 vs. palace 5

>>376127378
>>376126964
should stop at Yusuke. and maybe add 123

>>376126964

when she joins its just joker, yusuke, ryuji, and ann. ann and joker basically have no personality, so its just yusuke and ryuji being dummies/wierdos. i think having her in the mix was a good balance. she's an autistic wierdo too but she hides it better.

if anyone had a detriment to the dynamic it was futaba. i like her interactions with yusuke, but that whole week after she joins where everyone tries to help her branch out was so dumb. i liked futaba's reactions, but everyone fawning over her (makoto especially) was just dumb imo

>>376126964
Makoto should've joined after Futaba

Also Haru should have been more relevant before the dungeon she joins in to make the player give more of a shit about her and make her not feel shoehorned at the last minute

>>376126964
I wanted to like her but it really felt like her personality did a complete 180 once you got her on the team.

She went from fucking head of the student body to some autist that didn't know how to properly interact with people. In Japan are the student council students treated like shit? Cause they sure aren't over in burgerland. They're the damn king and queens of popularity. Maybe that was just at my high schools or something.

>>376128463
She only won because no one else wanted to run and she wanted that letter of recommendation

>>376128157
>Also Haru should have been more relevant before the dungeon she joins in to make the player give more of a shit about her

this 100%. they show her randomly in the fireworks cutscene, should have had some actual interaction that night too

>>376127091
>adding a straight edge to a group of outcast
why. also she does it ruin the fun, she's the naoto of P5 but even worse

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*steals your heart*

The entire cast is trash, not even just her

>>376129338
I don't know who this is. We're talking about Persona 5 characters in this thread.

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>>376129451
it's the beauty thief

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I like her on my team

NUCLEAR skills
Defense buffs
and she heals

>>376129550
Ann?

>>376129672
She's a better Morgana once she gets team wide defense buff and Miracle Punch stops being so useful.

personnel

>>376126964
>"Ok so you need a name. How about Rider?"
>"No, call me Queen."
>"Why?"
>"Because I'm the real leader from this point on, even though I just joined."
Yeah, fuck her. And not literally, especially since her sister is hotter.

>>376128463
Everyone was silently in agreement that the school sucked and Sae pressured her into doing everything possible to get that letter of recommendation. Probably the most interesting part of her social link is when she stops and thinks about her future and sees it all mapped out in front of her, even though she doesn't really want it.

>>376129830
>Miracle punch stops being useful

I'm sorry what

>has a cool outfit and Persona
>personality is shit
fucking hell

>>376129830
Miracle punch is never not useful.

>>376126964
>Go to study!
>Don't text in class!
>Help me follow this random bitch!

What a fucking cunt. She is boring as hell too.

>Spending your vacation on school.

Literally No Fun Allowed: The character.

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>>376126964
*fucks your sister*

pssh nothing personal, prosecutor

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>>376129737
No silly, it's Haru!

She's completely necessary.

The Phantom Thieves are just a group of naive kids running around and playing with fire until she joins.

When the police start actually cracking down on them its her leadership skills that keep them out of even more trouble than they got into.

>B-but muh Joker is the only leader we need

As the player insert all Joker can do is parrot other player's opinion. Makoto has to be the voice of reason.

>>376129982
It's not like she's been studying her whole damn life or anything

>>376129934
>>376129973
It's not very good for the last dungeon with how much health everything has

>>376130051
Why

are

you

typing

like

this?

>>376130051
Parrot other characters' opinions*

>>376130051
I'd buy this if she wasn't about the most naive character in the entire game.

>Hey Yakuza guy! Stop doing crimes or I'm calling the police!

>>376129982
>>Go to study!
>>Don't text in class!
That's what a good friend say usually

>>376130173
>I'd buy this if she wasn't about the most naive character in the entire game.
Yeah she drops major spaghetti in real life and not at school
that's her flaw

>>376126964
One of the major problems p5 has is that the cast is too big. The main talkers become Makoto, Ryuji and Morgana leaving Haru, Ann, Futaba and Yusuke to quip occasionally but otherwise say nothing.

>>376130121
You don't use it for the damage, you use it to crit shadow's that don't have weaknesses to exploit.

>>376130116
A big part of her arc is not knowing how to talk to people on a personal level.

Beep Boop

>Yesterday a nice Makoto thread with some posts regarding other girls as well. Almost no bickering.
>Today a Makoto thread just totally shitting on her.

>>376130165
To separate thoughts and because its easier to read than having everything on one line that goes to the end of your screen.

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>>376130297
Success breeds jealousy anon

>>376129550
Not with that receding hair line and shitty poodle hair.

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>>376130379
but I love her!

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>>376127128
>Persona
Cleopatra
>Melee
Lance/Nigatana
>Ranged
Sniper rifle
>Mask
"royal" masquerade mask
>Outfit
Some military uniform

>>376128463
she only took the job because she was expected too. Typical "My sister is doing all the work and I"m a useless piece of shit so I'm just doing what she wants me to do" gig till she realizes she needs to forge her own path, but realizes that she needs to learn how to think for herself after her awakening

>>376130259
Wrong.

Main talkers are Makoto, Morgana, and Futaba.
Ryuji only shouts and gets mad.
Ann is the only that regenerates the group with her cheery personality but she's no bimbo. When she understands, she actually understands.
Haru is the only one that I'll agree that actually is too late to join.

Still everyone of the girls is good in their own way. Why are you guys so mad that some people like a girl or something? Does it really hurt you or something?

>>376130297
To be fair Makotofags are the ones who most often shit on other girls.

>>376130051
You forgot something
Makoto (at least in my experience), says the shit I wish I could get Joker to say. It's so frustrating how shit and milquetoast everything Joker says is, the only good responses I like from him are the sarcastic ones. Makoto says the shit I wish I could say. Well with the exception of calling Goro out sooner, that nigga felt like a rat piece of shit right from the second meeting with him.

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>>376126964
Computer! Activate personality parameters 0452GB. BEEP BOOP.

>>376130051
Makoto is not neccesary, she warns them about texting and shit and they still don't follow up on it, then they still continue to act retarded by going in palaces in public.

Futaba is the only SOLE character that is needed in phantom thieves

>>376130457
Are you sure? because I could swear that all who shits on Makoto are Kawakamifags, from my experience at least

>>376130051
I mean really only Futaba and Joker are necessary

>>376126964
More like ruins herself with that ugly outfit and mask.

>>376130457
The only people who routinely start shit are falseflaggers like you

>>376130051
She only exists to give the PT a connection to Sae. It was even said by the developers

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>The best party member ruins the party dynamic

>>376130649
The outfit and scarf I like a lot
Her mask is literally the fucking worse though

>>376130470
>Help me or I tell the police and ruin your entire life!

Damn bitch.

No wonder no one in the school gives a fuck about her. How is she even the prez?

>>376130649
>ugly outfit and mask.
you have something against biker outfit anon?

>>376130457
If you said this before (like a long time ago or in the first few days after it released) I would agree. But now the only thing Makotofags keep on saying is "I like her!", "She's the best!" or explanations why they like her without shitting at the other girls that badly.

But antifags go all the ways and just shit on her totally to the point of making sure no one likes her.

I'm a Takemi guy and even I feel that it's really too much now. I've even seen exaggerations that never happened in game being pushed as the truth.

If it's going to be this way then fuck all of you. Takemi is the best. Ohya as well.

>>376130686
You're a fucking retard

>>376127128
This meme needs to end.

>>376128463
A lot of the times, people on Student Council are the only ones who ask for the position.

Anyway, Makoto was cute as a fuck up. The moment she joins the party, she's ruined and it's ruined. She turns into a total Mary Sue and doesn't interact with anyone else in a meaningful way, everyone's just sucking her dick or parroting her thoughts. She's honestly ruined the game for me.

>>376130801
She's a miracle of the universe, child.

>>376130331
You're not separating thoughts, you're separating each sentence with a line break. It's unnecessary and poor formatting.

>people seriously liking Makoto

wow. shit taste

worse than chiefag

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>>376130763
>>Help me or I tell the police and ruin your entire life!

"Oh hey there Phantom Thieves, I know you guys are considered criminals who's been accused of murder, but let me trust you 100% with my request for you"
-Makoto Niijima

>>376129881
>She's not even the one who suggested the name

Revisionist trolling sure is nice.

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>8 man team
>only 2 actually are needed or maybe the artist fag for calling cards
>GOTY

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>>376130927
I regret nothing

>>376130686
And Ann was put there just so they can say that there's a foreigner in a school.

Ryuji was put there because they needed a moron.

Yusuke was only needed to say that they needed someone from outside the school.

Haru was there because.. why was she even there.

Actually why are the confidants in game then as well? Only Takemi and Iwai.

See how retarded that argument is?

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>>376130708
>The best party member
How is that? Is it because the bitch talks the fucking most and controls all the conversations as soon as she joins the goddamn party?

>>376130447
What happend to the Anon who was drawing this? But it was a half Oni mask and dressed like Fate/Grand Order Nobunaga

>>376130967
Are you just parroting shit or did you actually play the fucking game?

>>376127128
Ill gladly get Hifumi over Shitaba.

>>376131014
Someone calculated who talks the most in game.

It's actually Morgana > Sae > Ryuji > Makoto > Futaba > Ann > Haru

>>376130967
fwiendship

>>376131001
Unlike Futaba nothing would hardly change, Akechi would just replace her as the connection to Sae and Futaba does all the planning anyway

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>>376130297
Makot is the most popular girl in P5 of course people on 4chan would love to hate her

>>376130837
>>376131014
>When Makoto isn't around, the other party members should be asking "Where's Makoto?"

>>376130939
It's funny because you post Futaba who would've let Japan be economically ruined because she was embarrassed

>>376130165
No one is typing like that.

Stop being a reactionary faggot.

Go back to /reddit/.

>>376130837
>She turns into a total Mary Sue and doesn't interact with anyone else in a meaningful way

That's my main gripe with her. She is a complete robot. And she also takes over planning and tells you the enemy weakness because ???

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*massages you*

>someone, somewhere, thought this facial expression is acceptable

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>>376130927
Funny how you managed to squeeze both best girls in the same concise post.
Well done, anon!

>>376131204
I was actually defending Makoto there
But I love Futaba's impression

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>>376130470
>tfw the dialogue temptation of saying "BEEP BOOP" to her or some generic shit for like points

The hardest choice in that game, honestly

>>376131252
*ignores*

>>376130837
That's Futaba

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>>376128007
>i liked futaba's reactions, but everyone fawning over her (makoto especially) was just dumb imo

They just felt bad for the poor girl and Makoto is naturally a caretaker.

>>376130801
Agreed. Hifumi a shit.

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Post em

>>376131076
Literally hardly any of them are needed after their introduction, once you have Yusuke what the fuck do you need Ryuji for? His calling cards are garbage. Why do you need Makoto when Futaba is more efficient? What is the point of haru in the team if she won't slide some cash to make phantom thieves have larger resources to work with? What the fuck is Ann needed for, seducing people? Morg is only good for being a bus once he dumped all the info he had

>>376126964
Story in the game leaves a lot to be desired in the game from Kaneshiro to Haru's father, she's not the problem.

My problem with her is how the group readily accepted her after a retarded action and half-assed confession from her part. I would be more cautious of someone who blackmailed me into doing something.

>>376131151
I bet everyone voted Arsene because he was in the game for all of an hour.

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>>376131408

>her social link requires me to be smart
>okay
>study my dick off
>alright time to slide in the-
>you now need maximum charm

you're pushing the wrong fucking buttons

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Joker needed the extra hand to manage the party.

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>>376127128
>>376130447
Hifumi reminds me of Gogo from Kill Bill, so I say ball and chain

>>376130837
You literally described Futaba, and in no way described Makoto. Try again at reading comprehension.

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>>376131337
>She can't handle the bantz

Fine, you can enjoy that movie by yourself then.

>>376131462
>The charm is to impress a literally who.

Fucking why

>>376131459
They voted him because Jun Fukuyama

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>>376130369
Sae make Makoto cry.

Makoto is the mom of this group and you can't deny it
other girls are too dumb to have that role

>>376131462
>requires intelligence and charm
>literaly shaping you to be a better man

based Makoto

>>376131461
So this is the power of Annfags autism?

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>>376130470
Non organic detected, initiate purge.

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>>376131461

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>>376131408

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>>376131757
You can't waifu more than one!

>Can't romance Sae

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>376131117
The fact that they have Makoto means they knew they needed her as a character. Also maybe you didn't watch the interview. But the last character that they made was Akechi. It was Joker > Ann > Ryuji > Makoto > Futaba > Haru > Akechi

>Futaba does all the planning anyway
Goddamn as long as you really can hate on someone you will spread lies huh.

>>376131231
>Helps Futaba in a motherly way
>Reigns in Ryuji when he goes off tangent too much
>Actually defers to Ann in regards to cheering up because she can't do it properly herself
>Her and Morgana plan things out

I'd agree with little comms with Haru,

Wow this place really wants to say lies just so they can justify their hate. Antifags really want to cling on a 2 year old interview where concepts were still being made.

I understand not liking something. Sure. But outright just falsifying stuff just to justify that? Goddamn. I hope you people get help.

The only good thing I'm getting from this is Takemi is not included in this shit.

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>>376131160
>tfw they actually ask where Makoto is immediately when she isn't bossing the chat room around with a gorrilion messages

Fucking ruined. Everything revolves around this bitch

>>376131104
Which is pretty ironic for Ann considering she's there the longest. Ryuji and Morgana being up there make sense since they argue with one another every chance they have. Where's Yusuke? I'd place him at around Ann's range.

>>376131736
You just don't have balls, admit it.

>>376131880
What do you mean?

>>376131549
The persona's voice by fukujun too?

>>376131028
Dunno, I think I found his drawings some times ago but didn't save it.
I plan on drawing PT Hifumi myself.
I tried the half-oni mask thing but it didn't look so good, if you still have the image I'd gladly save it this time.

>>376131014
>>376131104
>>376131861
I got this from /vg/

Joker: 30,212
Morgana: 8,211
Ryuji: 7,098
Futaba: 7,004
Ann: 6,850
Makoto: 6,803
Yusuke: 6,534
Haru: 5,120
Akechi: 2,250

Fucking Ann talk more than Makoto

>>376131986
Yes anon
I believe even character voices his own Persona

>>376131160
What was the origin of that? Feels like the original is genuine.

>>376132023
I was told Makoto talks the most...

So antifags really were making shit up?

>>376131853
>Wah, you don't like my waifu!! Don't spread lies!!

Waifufags are pathetic. Kys, my man.

I wish there was one more story dungeon to flesh out pancake man and forehead-chan. They needed more screentime.

>>376132023
>>376132080
D-DELETE THIS

>>376132023
Once again proving that the criticism of Makoto is better directed at Futaba

The real kicker is that no one has a problem with the pyramid arc

>>376132023
Bitch talks the most when it matters. She has to have the most speaking lines next to Morgana

>>376132196
>most speaking lines
Theses ARE the voice lines anon

>>376132023
HAHAHA HOLY SHIT.

SO THE BIMBO ACTUALLY HAS MORE LINES THE SO CALLED "SHE TALKS MORE THAN THE WHOLE PARTY MAKOTO"?

ANTIFAGS ARE RETARD AS FUCK.

>>376132196
Those are the voice lines you fuck. The written lines are a whole separate manner.

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>>376131829
Just try and stop me kiddo

>>376132179
>Futaba literally uses her laptop to do anything
>When deciding to gather information to help get Joker out of Juvie she warns the party that she'll try but it's not an omnipotent tool

Bitch your previous feats definitely are the result of an omnipotent tool. But apart from that line I didn't have any serious complaints about Futaba, the writers needed a deus ex machina plot device.

shes garbage but not as shit as Ann

Man, fucking Atlus is serious with these DLC prices? I just want new battle theme for NG+...
Which one should i buy?

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>>376132250
>30,212 voice lines for Joker

Yeah, OK.

>>376132179
I can't hate it at all because I'm a huge Egyptian mythologyfag and she has the GOAT palace theme

>>376132390
He has to say every single Persona name

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>>376132390

>>376131853
The entire plan set up to ruse Akechi was set up by Futaba, she was the one who actually confirmed he was double crossing the. She was the one who even told her to hack her sis's laptop and then was the one who set up the TV stations as a calling card. Once Futaba is in the team she actually does all the main planning, don't go pretending Makoto actually came up with any large plan when futaba was around.

>>376132390
Fucking phantom vision or whatever it called have like 5 or 6 voice lines

>>376132447
There's only like 200 Personas

>>376132327
The "bimbo" is in two more dungeons than biker dyke yet only had less than 50 more spoken lines

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>>376132023
>Joker
>More than Morgana

>>376132478
When you said do all the planning it means she's the one who only actually plans everything. In that fact you already lied big time.

You are just focusing on one instance. If you said the shit about Akechi the of fucking course you are correct. But the fact that you only focused on that and never included anyone else means you are cherrypicking.

>>376132554
I think all of his cutscene grunts count.

>>376132514
Joker doesn't just say persona names and that it anon, he says stuff like yosh and other stuff

>>376132554
>>376132390
They count his "Yosh"s and "hmm"s

>>376132627
>>376132685
I CAN SEE IT

>>376132826
I CAN FEEL IT

>>376132463
Post screen of Joker with gun in that scene please.

>>376132609
>But the fact that you only focused on that and never included anyone else means you are cherrypicking

I listed 3 different scenarios which futaba dealt with once she joined. You're the one cherry picking which one you're reading. Stop acting oblivious, makoto became irrelevant in the grand scheme of plans when Futaba joined.

>>376132551
And so? Why are you not including Futaba in your reply? Haru is so fucking late to the party and has 5k fucking lines. Only 1.5k lower than Ann.

>>376128463
You had a student council or even class presidents in America?
I sure didn't.

Haru in her thief outfit is 11/10

Haru in human world is trash/10

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>>376131501
Everytime someone posts this it makes me depressed as fuck. I would never do that to her.

>>376132551
>Futaba
Try another thread man, you're done

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>>376133026
>Haru in her thief outfit is 11/10
It covers her forehead

>>376131408
>Ohya above Futaba

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>>376133026
Haru is always 100/10 for me!

>>376131837
Unless your into femdom I can't understand why you would.

>>376131151
Honestly I'm surprised to see Yusuke that high.

>>376132983
>Haru has 5K voice lines
That has to be just in the files. I never heard her talk that fucking much

>>376133189
Fujoshi's are really strong in Japan

>>376129338
*steals your forehead skin to expand her own*

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>>376131151
>Johanna and Necronomicon not up there

What is this bullshit

What battle theme do you usually have going?

I typically have the Persona 2 or SMT IF battle themes going

>>376132895
>But the fact that you only focused on that and never included anyone else means you are cherrypicking

That revolved in one palace. But she didn't plan what to do on those palaces. THEY ALL DID. She was the one that had to do some of the important things for that palace, that I will agree.

And why are you focusing only on Makoto when I didn't even say anything about her being the main planner? Aren't you jumping to conclusions?

I just said she's an integral part of the crew. And people like you lying that she isn't needed is retarded.

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>>376130447
>Cleopatra
Nice, but that impinges on Futaba's dungeon theme and Hifumi is distinctly very Japanese compared with the girls.
I reckon Chacha (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yodo-dono), evolving eventually to Tamamo-no-Mae if you go with the 9-tailed fox = god thing. Then load her up with ailments and battlefield control spells like Stagnant Air, Revolution, Marakunda, plus Concentrate, and steal Kaguya's multi-hit magic spell.

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>>376131151
Do people really hate Ryuji that much? Why? He can absolutely annoy you with his retardation, sure, but he's an bro

>>376133189
Akechi was actually top 1 before. Because Fujoshis. You cannot underestimate them. Ever.

Now that they know how retarded he was. They latched on to the actual good one. Yusuke.

>>376133369
The Arena

>>376133453
There was another new poll:
1- Joker
2- Makoto
3- Ryuji

but I'm a huge faggot and I forgot the link

>>376133453
>>376133579
Found it
http://wikibbs1.com/votec/a224.html

>>376131151
>Ann and Haru so low

SHIT TASTE

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>>376126964
MIDDLE AGED OLD MAN

BEEP
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>>376133214
It's OK. We know now that there are a lot of lies being said just so they can hate on a character they do not like. The only one in the party that I agree that should be really hated is Ryuji the moron. I don't need a retard in my party who gets mad and blurts out his anger in public, or shouts he's a Phantom thief over and over again.

>But he's a bro..

A bro would actually shut the fuck up when needed. Not keep shouting like a full blown parrot.

>>376133324
Goemon is pretty based.

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>>376133452
Yep that's the problem.
Cleopatra perfectly fits the trickster theme and her queen-like behavior.
Buuut, the egyptian theme is already taken by Futaba's palace.
I like the Tamamo-no-Mae way, especially if she goes full bless skills (which makes Goro the Curse pursowner he deserves to be).

>>376132554
Morgana telling you to go to sleep every other night just makes it seem like he has more

>>376133945
Shiho has a higher chance of being a party member than Hifumi

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>>376133882

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>the twins are the best side characters
Japan's taste is superior

>>376133416
>That revolved in one palace.

Telling makoto to hack her sis laptop happened eay earlier and then how she came up with the plan to ruse akechi was in sae's palace arc and then how to send a calling card that would be effective to shido was literally on the ship palace arc so what the fuck you on?

>And why are you focusing only on Makoto when I didn't even say anything about her being the main planner?

Go check the post replies before you ask dumb questions again.

>I just said she's an integral part of the crew

Pfft i said it already, once futaba joins her role as the management and planner of the group becomes irrelevant and only a blind fag like you will fail to realise this.

>>376134013
Hifumi WAS designed to be a PT to begin with.
But then the plot would have been too long if we are to believe the devs.

>>376134064
>christmas cake third from the bottom

Actually they're shit

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Ask him about the gun, you fucking pussy.

>>376134064
I'm a bit conflicted about Toranosuke not being higher but then again most non party confidants in P5 were based as fuck.

>>376131151
>no LOOOKKKII on that list
Spoiler sure, but he was good design.

>>376134145
Would it really have been too long? Persona 5 felt shorter than P4G to me.

>>376133453
>Do people really hate Ryuji that much? Why? He can absolutely annoy you with his retardation, sure, but he's an bro

Because he's garbage and took like 90 hours to stop being retarded. Yusuke is your bro but are you seeing him sperging out constantly in serious situations?

Being a bro doesn't stop you from being disliked and faggots like you are the reason why they keep re-using his character

>>376134145
That's a /v/ meme, she doesn't even have concept art

>>376134193
L-let's go eat some burgers Morgana

>>376134013
>a character we barely even see in the game
>higher chance than a romance option with one of the most useful slinks in the game
Shihofags are delusional.

>>376134253
Goro is NOT a Phantom Thief

>>376134193
N-no, my guts isn't high enough.

>>376134262
I dunno how but I finished P4 in about 90 hours, and P5 in 120.

It still felt like it was lacking a dungeon or two, though.

>>376134253
He is not a teammate.

>>376134334
That's the point, Hifumi will never happen, just like crimson won't replace Leblanc and Sojiro with Sae Nijima and her apartment

>>376134421
>>376134340
I guess but that design was nice for an enemy persona.
Least Nips have decent taste

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>>376134273
>Originally, however, Hifumi was planned to be involved in the game’s main scenario, eventually becoming a Phantom Thief herself as part of the main party. In the end, she was changed to just be a Confidant character, because the main scenario was already long at that point and that it would make it even longer.
http://personacentral.com/persona-5-hifumi-togo-main-character-other-concepts/
Pic related : Hifumi on top.

>>376134587
That was before Leblanc existed you worthless parasite

>>376134273
>best girl
>meme
Please end yourself.

>>376134145
She must have been so damn good as a PT that they didn't even bother making costume concept art or anything for her and then decided she was too good as a PT so they had to forcefully nerf her into a confidant.

>>376134587
Why were they gonna bring Ryoji back

>>376134728
Kill yourself you fucking subhuman.

>>376134587
Wow cannot believe they cut additional hairstyles for Joker, hope they add it in Crimson

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>>376129338
It ain't stealing if you give it out

>The sheer amount of time wasted by Morgana getting extremely pissy
I wanted to flay the fucker alive by the end.

>>376134804
Shut up pleb. I only like really obscure girls like yukata wearing girl 2#. Fucking normies liking actually developed girls. They just don't get it.

>>376134717
>>376134804

I can't wait till Crimson and see Hifumi won't be a part of PT so you can shut up for good

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>>376134064
because theyre great

>>376134470
Crimson won't replace Leblanc that's for sure.
But we all know we will just have a Marie 2.0 asspull
>>376134686
>>376134728
I know that was before the Leblanc and everything.
Of course they did concept art, if they had the idea of Hifumi as a PT, there HAS to be some sketches somewhere.
You can't put everything in a 500 pages artbook.

>>376134912
She will still be best girl.

>>376134382
Dunno you but I felt that I did a lot more in my play through of P4 than on P5. P5 scenes tended to drag quite a bit and starting some palaces also dragged a lot(namely madarame, kaneshiro, okamura).

>>376134064
liked most of the confidants here, my main issue is that sadly most of the non-automatic ones storylines ended up being them blackmailed or mother is a bitch.

>>376134887
That's just an illusion. You still get far more evenings than you need. i see them revamping Morgana's cockblocking when a new evening s-link is aded in the next version.

>Try to be a lady killer like Yu in P4
>This happens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgW41uwP8co

Where did this "crimson" meme start from? P4 wasn't Golden for any reasons due to color. FES has nothing to do with any of that.

>>376131408
I'd move Tae up a tier but otherwise I'm the same

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>>376135052
I hate this.

>>376135092
We need a name to refer to.
Crimson is a simple and logical choice.
How would you call it ?
P5 : the lost ones edition ?

>>376135092
>P4's main color is yellow
>Yellow>>>>Gold
>P5's main color is red
>Red>>>>Crimson

that's about it. It's not like anyone genuinely believes it'll be called Crimson , it's just that we gotta call it something until the official name is revealed or not

>>376134104
>Telling makoto to hack her sis laptop happened eay earlier
Ok she suggested it I agree.

>and then how she came up with the plan to ruse akechi was in sae's palace arc
It was actually Makoto who suggested this.

>then how to send a calling card that would be effective to shido
No problems here.

>Go check the post replies before you ask dumb questions again.
I think you should check it again. The only thing that was said in the post replies was, "I can't believe people will lie just to say they hate a character".

>Pfft i said it already, once futaba joins her role as the management and planner of the group becomes irrelevant and only a blind fag like you will fail to realise this.
Actually really, no. Like seriously. All of them had a part in the planning. The management actually fell on Joker and Morgana. Being retarded on Ryuji, Cheerful and Invigorating the group on Ann, double-checking and finalizing strategies on Makoto and Futaba, Coffee on Haru, Shrimps on Yusuke.

Actually if you are only saying this because you like Futaba more than the rest then I'm out. Everyone had their hand on the planning. You are the only one here that wants to say that only Futaba does everything when it is a total lie. Stop. No one here is insulting your girl.

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>>376135052
I wonder?

>>376134064
But Hifumi's totally going to be a party member you guys. Never mind the fact that she's less popular than fucking Mishima.

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The only thing I actually wish for is that your choice of romance would be brought up more often, somehow. I dont mean making them a party member or something, but some interractions with the phantom thieves in general. I waifud sensei on my first go and I hoped so much that I could see Ryuji's reaction to that for example. Having Soujiro lose it over it was already great, but I want reactions from my peers too. Granted it hasnt really been a thing in the previous games either, but still hoped for it to be there.

>>376135214
>cat box
I made up my mind.
I didn't romance Futaba on my first playthrough (did only SL lvl 2), but on NG+ I'm going to be faithful to her.

>>376131459
Just sacrifice Personas and make Arsene overpowered

>Makoto fags
The worst

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>tfw Futaba's lv10 ability saved me over an hour of progress
Too close.

>>376135334
This was the most retarded scene in the entire game.

>>376135596
>antimakotofags
The cancerous

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>>376126964
I love Makoto

>>376135695
More like team dynamics fags

>>376135731
People who hate her are vocal minority

>>376135645
That's a funny way to spell "best"

If there's one character that should have been removed it's Ryuji.

>He's fucken bro
Bro my ass.

>>376135640
>enemy has a sliver of health, will die if I so much as sneeze in his direction
>Futaba casts Heat Riser on the entire party
>round 3 of the fight, enemy hasn't damaged anyone significantly
>Futaba heals everyone's HP

Fuck that smelly NEET

>>376135645
>>376135784

Writing is kind of wonky because they had in mind Joker cheating on one girl. Even what Sojiro says later.

Then again it's funnier getting beaten up by that many girls. Fucking lost it when Ryuji sent the text.

>>376134193
Bitch I just wanna buy a toy lightsaber for Goro stop trying to hook me up with a full grown man.

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I want to be covered by Haru's fluff from head to toe!

>>376135905
>Fucking lost it when Ryuji sent the text.
This was the only good thing Ryuji did in the whole game.

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>>376136012
same

I'm still buttmad that you only got to use Akechi for one dungeon. Him and Haru are so fucking useful, but you get both for the least amount of time.

>>376131408
Makoto had the most promise but failed on delivery badly.

Persona 4 or Persona 4 Arena DLC?

>>376131204
But Futaba was the original Medjed, so she knows anyone claiming to be them in Japan's all talk anyway. That and she was a fuck-up with suicidal thoughts that entire time.

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>>376135905

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>6th palace boss
>sniper spot event
>send the girl with a grenade launcher

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>>376131252

>>376136195
Except she didn't failed anything. Get over it futabafag

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>>376136223

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who /ann/ here

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>>376136139
>want to use Haru for her dad's dungeon
>she doesn't even have baton pass

>>376135514
But that's like making out with your sister

>>376136223
>sent the guy with a fucking shotgun
>the madman actually did it

>>376136223
Sending Morgana and seeing him blasting the glass panel with his slingshot was so satisfying.

>>376135251
>It was actually Makoto who suggested this.

But who came up with the plan? It was obvious that they needed to set up akechi when everyone knew he was a traitor. Stop acting like a mere suggestion means anything when she didn't actually come up with the plan.

You fucking said she was necessary and i basically tell you she isn't once futaba joins, took you 3 posts to even read the 3 scenarios i listed so clearly you aren't reading shit anyways.

>Actually really, no. Like seriously. All of them had a part in the planning. The management actually fell on Joker and Morgana. Being retarded on Ryuji, Cheerful and Invigorating the group on Ann, double-checking and finalizing strategies on Makoto and Futaba, Coffee on Haru, Shrimps on Yusuke.

Look at this shit, you are literally listing minimal shit that don't mean anything in the grand schemes like you really fucking said shit like coffee, besides the MC futaba is probably the only integral important member consistently after her own arc.

I don't even like this bitch since she kills all the tension and not my fault the cast was dogshit in this game to the point where only 2-3 members were actually required in their 8/9 man party.

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>>376136350
I used her anyway. She's worth it!

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>>376136350
mfw NG+

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Why can't we all just get along and enjoy our own waifus?

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>Captain Kidd becomes Seitan Taisei

>>376136337
I can't get over how great her design is

wish her personality was more than "the girl of the group" though

>>376134382
>P4 in about 90
>P5 in 120

I'm pretty sure my playtimes are nearly exactly these, but reversed

>>376136462
logical evolution for him

both are loud fucks

>>376126964
Joke's on OP, the party had no dynamic before Makoto gave it a single character with an actual personality and brain

>>376134064
>Tora being so fucking low.

I think of all the side characters I think years from now I will remember him the most. Especially considering how low anyone ( including myself ) trusts politicians nowadays having a character like him left a big impact on me. I'm suprised he's not more popular, guess I just have shit taste.

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>Oh look it's the "I hate Makoto for the sake of hating her" thread

How can one girl generates so much salt?

>>376131853
>The fact they have Makoto means they knew they needed her as a character.

Boy, that explains all these opinions about how useless almost every character is to the group as a whole besides Futaba for her deus ex machina hacking.

>>376136462
Bullshit, that ugly monkey made me switch him out for Yusuke.

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>>376136350
>alright I'll try to get at least baton pass on her before the next dungeon
>level 1 is vegetables
>level 2 is locked behind 5 proficiency

>>376130447
>cleopatra
All the P5 personas are based on famous rebels,tricksters and thieves.

cleopatra was none of those so nah

>>376136569
Stop. The Futabafag is raging right now.

>>376136530

Why does every adult in the game go on, and on about Ann's "crazy body" when makoto is much more developed than her?

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>>376134064
>the comments for caroline and justine
im dying

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>>376136439
>mfw didn't even start her SL on my first playthrough

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>>376136578
>Goemon evolves into Susanoo
>It also looks like shit

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>>376136530
>Makoto's hips
every time

>>376136685
Because Ann poses if you get what I mean. Makoto just stands up straight.

Why P4 DLC not suing this theme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu1LCUJMnF0
I don't get that

>>376136702
please do translate for us baka gaijins

>>376129934
>>376129973
>implying

Miracle punch is trash on both the Akechi and Shido fights due to them being crit immune from what i know.

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Is this how Persona threads go?

Just blaming the games' blemishes on one pertaining character per game until the blame eventually shifts into another?

Getting real sick of you fuckers calling Futaba a dues ex machina.

>>376136806
That's for the DAN dlc.

>>376136806
Well Atlus owns them both so why would there be any legal action?

>>376136541
He was one of my favourites too, he was the first confidant I maxed because I was actually interested in his story.

>Tora treats Joker like an equal
>values his advice and opinions
>recognises his past mistakes and is genuinely remorseful
>realises his duty to create a better society for future generations
>doesn't compromise his values to clear his name
Based Tora

>>376136828
Oh no, your healer's utility side skill doesn't work in two boss fights! Makoto would be so much better with her flash bomb!

>>376136897
Sadly this is what a normal persona thread is
endless waifuwars

>>376136897
Its just persona fans who started with 5 getting to their first waifuwars and not knowing how to deal with the bantz. So people start screeching.

>>376136972
You don't use her for Flash bomb though

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>>376136897
Makoto has been called a copypaste of half the female cast of Persona by now while simultaneously being a nothing character and a Mary Sue that takes over the whole story.

They're just trying to make you angry.

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>>376126964
Greatest girl to ever not exist... ;_;

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>>376127091
Sort of defeats the purpose of having a game about offbeat losers, then, doesn't it? It's not even like the school shuns her. She's actually exceedingly popular because she's the student president.

>>376136943
I mean *using* lol.
>>376136898
Sad, DAN costumes looks like garbage.

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>>376136897
Grow some thicker skin, bitch. Everybody calls my waifu a slut and tries to ship her with Ryuji so it could always be worse.

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>require max kindness to up his Slink
>get rewarded with more kindness

?????????

>>376137059
>Mary Sue that takes over the whole story.
I thought Makoto is a the useless robotic character

>>376137069
It's about rebelling and none of them are outright losers.
No wonder you don't like Makoto when you don't know what the story is about.

>>376132023
And how is this actually calculated? Voiced, text, or both? It's pretty clear that length of any line has no bearing on the number, given Joker's got 30,000+ either from saying singular Persona or attack names or counting his one-line dialogue choices as 3 different lines of dialogue each time. Same for Morgana/Futaba being inflated from being the in-battle navigators.

>>376136828
>2 fights in the entire game

Are you joking.

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>>376136972
>actually attacking with makoto and not just having her spam Defense buffs and Items during bosses

Just kill urself my man

>>376136897
Stop trying to play victim Futabafag. Look which character has been hated on for weeks now. And it's not you.

As a Harufag I'm happy this hasn't happened yet.

>>376137145
Ann looks so retarded in glasses.

Perfect party would be everyone minus Makoto and Haru

>>376127091
Wasn't Morgana already kind of the straight edge?

>>376136897
Futaba was gonna be a mary sue hacker like i said as soon as her bio dropped.

/v/ kept trying to pretend otherwise but were exposed.

Not one main character in this game was good.

>>376137245
Some dude extracted the sound files from the ps3 game
I don't know how he did it but there you have it

Well we're clearly at odds as far as P5 girls are concerned, but I think we can all agree they're all better than Chie.

>>376136897
I like Makoto but not Makotofags only girl I truly dislike is Ann
then again nobody likes Ann, its also fun to bully Haru

>>376137287
Perfect party would've been if they let Futaba's role to Hifumi.

>>376137267
USELESS BALDY

>>376137167
Hifumi did the same shit with knowledge.

>>376137232
They're all supposed to be losers. Everyone except for Makoto is shunned by society and the people around them. They don't have friends, either. They're losers in the most basic sense.

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>>376137262
>not having Haru use items
She could be used to far greater effect but pic related

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>>376136815
>コープでの2人のやりとりがおもしろい
"The banter between the two during their coop was interesting."
>ぜひ、囚人って読んでください
"Please! Call me prisoner!"
>もう少し主人公の扱い優しくてもいいと思うよ
"I think it'd be nice if they treated the protagonist a bit more nicely."
>一緒に遊びたい
"I want to play together with them."
>アメあげるからこっちおいで~
"I'll give you candy, so come here~~"

>>376137392
Ann is second best girl, and number one best girl friend. That girl has a big heart.

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Name a game with a worst cast in 2017

I don't think anything can top P5

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>>376137392
>its also fun to bully Haru
Haru is not for bullying.

>>376137218
Makoto is the X-girl of this game it seems

you hate Naoto? just call Makoto the next Naoto
You hate Chie? just call Makoto the next Xhie

and the list goes on and on

>>376137435
Makoto don't have friends either.

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>>376137392
Why do you dislike Ann? I can understand if she's not your favorite but there's nothing unlikable about her.

>>376137510
Mass effect?
But that's low hanging fruit.

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Futaba ruined the group dynamic. Persona 6 should just get rid of the whole navigator role.

>>376137558
I guess, but only because she works hard to keep the high opinion of her in the school. All the students revere her because she's so smart.

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>>376137443
>erected
oh man

>>376137069
>Makoto is popular because she's the student council president
>I didn't even bother to read any dialogue involving Makoto, but here's my opinion

>>376136651
This annoyed me so much. I can't blame Haru for tending to plants since it's part of her character but damn what was Atlus thinking with that setup?

>>376137521
Haru is for
>hugging
>cuddling
>thanking her for everything she does for you
>reassuring her that she is the only one you care about
>asking her to grow her hair out because the more fluff the better
>taking a photo of her everytime she smiles and making a huge gallery out of it

>>376137648
I can sort of agree. They dropped the whole social anxiety thing pretty quickly and only brought it up for comedic purposes or S.Link scenes.