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Childhood is when you idolize gunboats. Adulthood is when you

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Childhood is when you idolize gunboats.
Adulthood is when you realize that the shotgun makes more sense.
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>>376111467
I still prefer boats. For some reason I literally cannot use the shotgun effectively if I'm not an engineer, and even then, I'm not good with it. I like boats so I can shoot my feet to kill cheeky spies and scouts who run too close
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I don't know how the reserve shooter is seen by the community but I feel like it's pretty great considering how many opponents I end up blasting into the air with a rocket shot.
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>when a Scout thinks he's hot shit
>blast him to pieces with the shotgun

It's quite possibly my favourite side weapon ever
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>tryhard shotgun
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>>376111467
I love the shotgun, but soldier is the only one I really run it on.
>Heavy needs Sandvich
>I like Flareshots even more
>Engineer I usually run RR on
On the other hand, I'm complete shit at rocking jumping, so it works out for me.
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Childhood is idolizing pyro
Being an adult is realizing heavy makes more sense
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>>376113451
I actually prefer using the Shotgun/Family business on heavy than the sandvich. Shit feels smooth, satisfying, and fun.
Is that bad?
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>>376113554
Pyro used to have a niche until they nerfed axtinguisher and just made him worthless trash

>b-but i can mildly inconvenience medics every 30 minutes when they uber...
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>>376113701
Nah, Fat Scout is fun. I just feel bad whenever I let a medic die because no sandvich.
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>>376113451
>Not teaming up with your sentry to shotgun people to death
They never expect an engineer to go up all over their face with a shotgun while their sentry is up
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>>376111467
great post
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I use Reserve because fuck trolldiers. Anyone who uses the Rocket Jumper/Market Gardener is a disgrace to the uniform.
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>>376111467
I used the Gunboats so much that if I switched to the Shotgun I'd kill myself too often.
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Childhood is when you idolize Team Fortress 2
Adulthood is when you realize Overwatch is better
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>>376114367
Considering getting Overwatch sometime later. What are good picks for a Soldier main?
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>>376114476
There isn't one, people compare soldier to Pharah but she hovers and can't rocket jump reliably and takes much less skill to master. Overwatch is a baby version of TF2 made to appeal the casuals and waifufags. Gameplay is 4/10 at best.
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>>376111467
>he doesn't like goomba-stomping f2ps
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>>376114476
Soldier is usually supposed to help take down Pharahs, but if your team isn't supporting you (shielding you, damage boosting you, or if Zen puts an orb on her which I feel helps most.) You should be able to take out any of the flankers Reaper (stay far away from him though), Tracer, Genji, Soldier, D.Va (again stay of her range) and Winston.

Soldier is often a target so don't be afraid to use the sprint if you're ambushed by multiple people. You should probably be able to 1v1 just about everyone if you're careful to stay out of range and use that healing beacon. Also, just use that beacon. Heal teammates and yourself and practically just keep it on cooldown.

While, being out in the open will allow you to more reliably hit stuff, try to stay behind a shield or at least keep some kind of buffer between you and the enemies.

Side note: Your first three shots will be right down the center then spread starts. Just tapping the button no longer helps that, so let it spread a bit, then stop and you can get those reliable three shots again.
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>>376114367
Overwatch ain't good enough to replace TF2
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>>376114367
Early TF2 > Overwatch > Late TF2
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childhood is when you use shitty fucking /tv/ memes
adulthood is when you're banned for them like you deserve
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>>376116847
Childhood is being autistic
Adulthood is shitposting about irrelevant things and still being autistic
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>>376116670
late tf2 > early tf2 > overwatch
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>>376111467
Why don't you play the dedicated shotgun class instead, numb nuts ?
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>>376113101
Nobody minds it on soldier, but it's considered the most annoying weapon in the game on pyro.
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>>376117751
Late TF2=Early TF2>Overwatch

I honestly don't know why late TF2 has that much hate (except for the new match searching method, that shit blows).
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>>376114367
this commen doesn't make sense seeing as though overwatch is literally an easymode babby game infested with children.

and for the record i'm not saying tf2 is much better either
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>>376111467
>rocket jumper
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BUFF BANNER ALL DAY FAGGOTS
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>>376111467
TF2's shotgun is one of the best fucking shotguns in vidya, right up there with the standard shotgun of Doom.
It's not a flashy or fancy weapon, but god damn if it isn't reliable and works well in almost any situation, it's the unsung hero.
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>>376118089
>Medics love him!
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>>376111467
Childhood is when you use shotguns because you can't rocket jump.
Gunboats is when you can do map roll outs and can't be stopped.
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>>376118094
>runs up behind you
>heh nothin personnel, chucklehead
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>>376113101
Ever since the axtinguisher nerf, the reserve shooter has been the go-to easy puff-and-sting kill combo for Pyro
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>>376118241
>rocket jump and roll out
>spend all four rockets
>land in front of heavy
>get gunned down because you're just a flashy showoff who can't actually work with your team
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>>376118295
Aren't they statistically the same?
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>>376118295
I actually dislike the scattergun, it likes the satisfying pump of a normal shotgun, nor does it have the break action of a double barrel. That and I swear to christ the hitreg makes certain I can never hit anything.
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>>376118343
>getting killed by heavies
lmao how bad are you
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>>376118397
I believe the scattergun does more damage point blank but less at range, and vice versa, but barely noticeable
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>>376118458
what're you gonna do hotshot, hit him with your shovel
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>>376118317
Even if they un-nerfed axtinguisher tomorrow I still wouldn't replace powerjack, speed is way to valuable to give up for a weapon that's only really needed against heavies and demoknights
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>>376118397
Actually no, the scattergun has higher point-blank damage.

Look up "damage ramp-up." Not every weapon in TF2 has the same damage fall-off. Some do disproportionately more damage up close (like Scout's scatterguns), some do disproportionately little damage (like rocket launchers.)
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You think they'll ever unfuck the righteous bison? I wish they'd return the piercing effect for the Pomson as well, but remove the uber/cloak sapping effect in exchange, I don't think anyone uses the pomson for draining spies and medics anyway
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who sandman + guillotine here?
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>>376118674
What did they do to the Bison? That was my favorite Engineer weapon.
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>>376118241

lol

How does it feel being a shit soldier?
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Any conch faggots here? You can easily farm 480 damage from retard pubbers then boost for days.
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>>376118581
The RS was never not better than the axtinguisher for easy kills on trapped enemies
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>>376118397
>>376118470
Scatter gun has better ramp up at close range (175% vs 150% of shotgun) and different reload intervals (with reloading first shot at .76 of a second vs 1 sec of shotgun). Shotgun reloads consecutive rounds faster and the damage beyond close range is the same for both. Scattergun also does more maximum mini crit damage

It's quite a bit better
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>>376118806
I think you're a little confused dude, the bison is the solider's laser pistol, and they crippled the speed and hitbox of the projectile, plus they pretty much gutted the piercing effect, claiming it was a bug when it was a fucking tool tip for YEARS.

The pomson has been really not great ever since the pierce effect was removed, it also has a tiny hitbox.
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>>376118805
>Sandman
kys yourself

Stun in an online FPS is the biggest mistake ever made.
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>>376118981
just dodge it
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>>376118805

This is a youtuber trend right? I've encountered many idiots that have use the combi but suck horribly.
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>>376119060
yes anon everyone who uses that weapon combination watches youtube
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>>376118805
I use the gullotine all the time, but I don't bother with the sandman.
It doesn't matter, I can't hit anything with either
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>>376119023
Sandman balls are faster than fully drawn huntsman arrows. At mid range its not even possible to evade them.
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>>376119132

Only retards use it.
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>>376118805
who guillotine without the fagman because it's a fun secondary but other bats are more useful and less cancerous here?
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>tfw since the beta I've always used stock weaponry on every class besides medic
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>>376119718
Here. The scout can't carry much ammo for the pistol anyway, and the guillotine recharges pretty fast.
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Stock Engie > Rest
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>>376119718
I often use Guillotine with Wrap Assassin just to watch enemy bleeding to death or even kills him with the paper tube.
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>>376119774
crossbow a best
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>*one hit kills you from across the map*
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>>376120440
but remember it's the sandman that's impossible to dodge, not instant death hitscan
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*obliterates soldier rocket jumping around the corner*
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>>376120440
>*taunt kill you while you are standing still for 5 minutes*
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>>376115913
I think you misunderstood his question
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>>376120720
*get's placed on hightower*
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>*shoot rocket jumper at you*
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>>376121038
Ah, those halcyon days of crude TF2 images and machinima posed in Gmod, where the best we'd do is just contort the face into hideous expressions.
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>not cp_steel
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Post your go-to soldier loadout
>stock
>boats
>escape plan
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>>376122329
stock
battalion
escape plan
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>>376122329
Mangler
shotgun
whip
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>>376114367
Taking the bait halfway

Overwatch is too casual and it's skill ceiling not high enough to ever compete with tf2
press q to frag
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>>376122329
>original
>conch
>whip
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>>376122329
>rocket launcher
>shotgun
>shovel
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>>376122329
used to be
>nilla
>gunboats
>equalizer

then
>airstrike
>B.A.S.E. Jumper
>whip

now
>black box
>Concheror
>whip
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>>376122858
I tried to use the black box, but only having two (I always keep one in case) shots turned out to be a real handicap,is the health gain that great?
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>>376122858
>>black box
>>Concheror
>>whip

Christ anon, what're you gonna do with all those heals?
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>>376123132
The massive health regen kinda makes up for one less rocket, especially if you back off when you are at half health.

You can switch the black box for the liberty launcher since the concheror almost gives you free rocket jumps with it, and the liberty launcher isn't that bad.

>>376123135
make 1v1 soldiers rage
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>>376122329
direct hit
buff banner
equalizer

i hate my life
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>>376123135
Sit on the roof of Gravel Pit's B and live forever
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>>376123329
>>376123736
You're alright.
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>>376118981
Its an fps mmorpg.
Crits, staus effects, classes with gimmicks, and weapons with stats.
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>>376122329
what does "Marked for death" mean?

you only take minicrits?
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>>376125940
Yes, all damage you take is now upgraded to minicrits.
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>>376125940
Yes, and there's a flying symbol above your head informing the whole world that you do.
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>>376115913
He's talking about TF2 Soldier
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>>376122329
>stock
>stock
>equalizer
It's a strange, and it's fun whipping it out. The Zatoichi is also fun.
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>>376114850
That's mantreads, retard
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so does anyone use the pain train?
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>tf2
>when overwatch is a thing
lyl
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>>376126750
The pain train is alright, but it's too much of a hassle to actually change to it.
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>>376120852
Oh god, I did. Though, I guess Phara, because while she can't "rocket jump" she can get some pretty neat rollouts using her boost, hover and concussion blast to push you around the maps speedier.

>>376122462
Having played TF2 a lot. I admit that it takes skill to be good at, I only really competed in Steel UGC, but I was still pretty decent at it. I just hated that Comp took out random shotgun spread and random crits because they were my favorite part of the game and I just wanted to play Highlander without these dumb rules that make Scout and Engie way too powerful when they knew exactly how their spread would move. I got sick of only having cosmetic updates. I made it a point to collect one of every weapon (I didn't care about reskins) and unless more recent patches changed some (I believe Darwin's Danger Shield is different from what I remember) But after three years with no new weapons (plus I stopped playing it daily when Evolve came out and went back when it died) I decided to go for Overwatch because it was basically TF2 but with more diversity in weapons and characters, but shittier maps. I love cp_Steel; it's my favorite map of any game ever.

People complain that all the characters are OP and "too easy" to play, but fact of the matter is that if you think it's casual you haven't played long enough. There are many nuisances to skill, placement, weapon/ability use, and just understanding how team composition works which is more difficult than TF2's simply because of the size of the rosters. Also, because if you were playing Highlander you never even needed to worry about your team comp.
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>>376122329
>Stock
>Buff Banner
>Disciplinary Action
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>>376126750
only a crazy man wouldn't
i can't tell you how many games i've won simply because the enemy didn't expect the double capture rate on a demo
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*blocks your path*
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>>376126809
I find overwatch really, really boring compared to TF2. The movement and stuff is just too simple. I'm not good at either game though.
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>>376127202
each character in tf2 is like 3 in 1 though at the least with all the weapon combinations
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>>376127478
Demos use it sometimes because lets be honest none of the demos melee weapons are especially good. Soldier on the other hand has 3 choices that are way stronger than that and soldiers don't like capping anyways
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>>376122329
direct hit
gunboats
whip
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>that guy who attacks with sticky jumper only to make people nervous
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>>376127668

The skullcutter is pretty good
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>>376122329
>original
>boats
>whip
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>>376122329

>Original/Stock
>Reserve shooter
>Disciplinary Action
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>>376127806
Good luck hitting anybody after you take out you slow deploying weapon and move at soldier's walking speed
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>>376127643
Half of which are banned in competitive. Plus, the weapons (aside from the clusterfuck that is Demo's items) are mostly just slight variations of weapons you're already using. Which can be nice. I actually liked the Iron Bomber more than stock grenade launcher, but it's not like a totally unique and changed weapon. Also, any weapon that's downside is "no random crits" is pretty much going to be the only melees used in comp because no one has crits there so that weapon has no downside now.
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>>376128268

Well, at the range that Demo is force t pull out his melee weapon hitting people with the skullcutter extra damage and range aint that hard.

Pain train is pretty good tho
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former TF2 pros who are now pros in Overwatch agree that Overwatch takes much less skill, especially in regards to movement.

>pros
yea I know but it's just a term to describe people who compete at the highest level of a game.
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>>376122329
I decidet to play casual even more casually recently and started picking soldier. I just play stock + boats + gardener and if I change I never pick bb, conch or base jumper. Easy top of the scoreboard even without a medic.
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>>376113786
>mfw I use the widowmaker
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>tfw using rocket jumper + shotgun + pain train and backcapping with soldier
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>>376113786
I find pistol to be much more effective at aiding the pyro as engineer.

Engie used to have (i don't know if he still has, haven't played in years) like ~200 reserve ammo and the reload for the pistol took no time.
You could literally run around carefree shooting at everything that moves
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>>376128678
>especially in regards to movement
Well, yeah no doubt. The only skill in movement that isn't in Overwatch is proper rocket jumping and sticky jumping (which kind of is in Overwatch, but I'll agree it's got much less movement skill). The maps play a big part too. TF2 had well crafted levels that were often tailored around the classes but, with Overwatch's maps it's much more difficult to build a map around the ever expanding cast.

Last note: Needing skill does not equal fun.
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Q to people playing the game.

Did highlander get more popular after the competetive update?
I always found it more fun than regular 6v6 matches but for some reason it always appeared as less popular option.
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>>376131296
>Needing skill does not equal fun
True. However, higher skill ceiling does directly translate to game's longevity.
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>yfw someone call you noob for using the direct hit
>they say the dh takes no skill as an argument
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>>376131570
It's more like 6 v 6 was just more popular because it's easier to organize a team of 6 than it is 9.

TF2 naturally leans towards matches of 12 vs 12, while most other FPSs(e.g. COD) go for 5 vs 5 or 6 vs 6, with larger teams being more of a novelty game mode than the standard.
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>>376130726
This is a TF2 thread though
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>>376122329
complete shitter coming through
>blackbox/original
>Bison
>Whip
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>>376131296
>Last note: Needing skill does not equal fun.
correct, an entirely different and subjective matter that works against you just as much as you think it works against another game. so there was actually no reason at all for you to bring this up.
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Take me by the tongue and I'll know you,
kiss me till you're drunk and I'll show you
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>>376131027
Even if engie had 12 ammo on pistol that wouldn't be a problem for him, the one class that's constantly looking for ammo
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>>376131704
It really doesn't though. It's the best weapon in the game, literally everyone uses it. It's cheap af.
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>Still waiting the fucking Adult Swim TF2 cartoon show

Why I keep bother with such thoughts god fucking fuck
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>>376131901
Widowmaker is a primary weapon for engineer in Team Fortress 2.
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>>376132553
Its nice to have some hope anon, even if its REALLY far-fetched and may never happen.
i mean i sometimes wish that JSRF would get a sequel or L4D2 would get upgraded.
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>>376131296
>The only
"only", as if it's not a huge difference at higher levels of play.
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>>376122329
Depends on the map. Pretty good at rj'ing so like to meme with stock/boats/mg, since it's way more fun than just shooting feet all the time, but some maps shotty or even concherer is much better.
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>learn to rocket jump
>start noticing all the invisible walls higher up
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post demo loadouts

>loose cannon
>tide turner
>half zatoichi
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WHEN

WHEN IS IT VALVE

FUCK
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>>376133374
i like to keep it all themed
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>>376131901
this guy
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>>376134015
UNNERF THE AXETINGUISHER
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>>376134039
>using persuader without being a full on demoknight
don't you like having ammo
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is the sticky launcher a defensive area denial yet?
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>>376117952
>Nobody minds it on soldier

It's banned from competitive plays, too strong.
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>>376114367
Childhood is when you idolize wacky spamfests with candy graphics.
Adulthood is when you realize Rainbow 6: Siege is the the greatest class-based shooter of our generation.
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Childhood is when you idolize Team Fortress 2.
Adulthood is when you realize that Overwatch makes more sense.
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>>376134395
Just because it's banned doesn't mean the community hates it. Really, have you ever confronted a soldier and specifically thought his reserve shooter is unfair bullshit cancer or something to that effect?
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>>376134287
persuader and turner are for when i run out of cannonballs
i use bootleggers sometimes too, i just dont wanna break da theme
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>>376134558
nah
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>>376134558
more sense to what?
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>>376133374
>iron bomber
>quickie
>any stock bottle skin
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>>376134764
but youre like bound to run out of ammo as a demo unless you are bad and die
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>>376134886
Watch while you fondle your gonads
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>>376116670
I can agree with that.
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>>376135008
thats why i use the tide turner- i used to use the scripts and stuff to trimp back then so i just fly away back to spawn or just run around chaining charge kills
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>>376133374
either
>iron bomber
>sticky jumper
>ullapool
or
>base jumper
>stock sticky
>ullapool
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>>376135136
i'm a fucking /v/irgin you deep shit, i don't care about a slut i only want to play games faggot
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>>376134558
Overwatch is garbo
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>>376122329
>Stock because I sold my Strange Original
>Shotgun
>Stock reskin (Necro smasher)
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>>376122329
You posted mine.
If there's a sentry fucking us up or we need to push better I may swap boats for bat.backup or buff banner.
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You have ten seconds to defend random crits
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>>376136057
Makes medics somewhat viable in combat
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>>376136057
you cannot control when you get them
they can still miss
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>>376132535
>literally everyone uses it.
name one international tf2 turney where a team had a soldier with a dh.

I'm waiting
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>tfw new pyro update never
>tfw no more cool community updates that's anything more than a half-assed, half-assing shrug on the blog
e.g.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft1vQHmZ1Q8
>tfw a lead-in-the-drinking-water brain-damaged and neglected TF2 is still better than every other hero shooter on the market
>friends you made over a decade and thousands of hours of gameplay haven't logged onto Steam in months or years
>community servers are an endangered species

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLWJSFJ7D1Y
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>>376136057
it adds a random element perfectly suited game created with casual gameplay in mind and where competetive mode/gameplay was added as an afterthought or by the community.

and by definition they're random, which means you have no control over it therefore it's fair.
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>>376122329
Stock
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>>376136632
Well, quasi-random, They're almost like the killstreaks of TF2 since the crit probability is dependent on the damage being done in the past 20 seconds. To kind of even the odds of someone going from skirmish to skirmish against someone who just came from spawn/a dispenser.
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>>376136427
Wow, you're so out of arguments that you have to make up your own meta just to win. Implying I give a fuck about competitive play.
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>>376111467
>Childhood thinks Soldier is overpowered
>Adulthood is still right
>>
>playing soldier on pubs when your team isn't getting stomped

I seriously hope you guys don't do this
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Post loadouts for soldiers
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>>376137602
Soldier is the best class and the most fun you can have on TF2.
>>
What is the best loadout for an aggressive Engineer?
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>>376137715
Stock shotty, short circuit and gunslinger.
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>>376137715
>battle engie
Battle anything is a cancer that plagues TF2.
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>>376137715
from what i heard,
Widowmaker
Short Circuit/Pistol
And Mini
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>>376136057
BWEEEP, TIME'S UP
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>>376137994
What did we learn?
I ALWAYS WIN
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>>376134039
I haven't played tf2 in about five years. Sometimes I wonder how much useless cosmetic trash I would accumulated if I had kept playing all this time.
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>>376137715
If on anything other than payload just use stock and gunslinger

Honestly on payload I find the Jag to be way more fun and effective
>able to get up teles way faster
>have a constant supply of metal with the cart
>that feeling when you set up your level 3 and half the enemy team just walks into it
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>>376134176
>Flare gun gets nerfed because people bitched about "Combo Pyro"; at least gets reverted
>Axtinguisher gets nerfed for the same reason despite having to be in melee range to accomplish
>People now bitching about the Reserve shooter for the exact same reason even calling it OP

I think people just hate getting killed by Pyros, I hope the update for him makes his flamethrower not a garden hose damage wise.
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>>376138495
No fuck the reserve shooter on pyro
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how do I improve this?
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>>376136057
defend them from what? asspained esports babbies saying they're "not competitive"?
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>>376116670
True
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>>376113040
Nigger, the Gunboats don't reduce damage to you if an enemy took damage from the rocket. You are literally not getting any benefit from having them equipped in that situation.
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>>376138636
You are a retard anyway if you let a Pyro get close enough that he can flame you, airblast you and shoot your face off. It's the only weapon keeping Pyro from being a complete non-factor in any situation other than being an Engie's lap dog.
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>>376138653
Play watergate when school is out.
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>>376133239
invisible walls were a mistake
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>>376139847
i'm 24
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>>376138653
Play more Medic.
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>>376139939
Yeah, unlike most players on watergate.
>>
I want to use the shotgun with soldier, but I have to use the concheror because nobody plays medic
>>
>sniper isn't his least used class by a huge margin
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>>376140098
Sniper at least has huntsman as a goof around weapon, spy should be your least played class
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>>376140205
>spy
>not pyro
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>>376140205
>least
>not most after scout
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>>376140098
unfortunately, my least played is engineer
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>>376139759
not him but pyro shouldn't have the ability to completely destroy a players mobility by just looking in his general direction and pressing M2
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>>376140098
that would be heavy. I dont know how anyone but an ex consolefag can enjoy him
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*reflects your crocket*
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>>376140540
why?
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>>376114367
The only thing Overwatch is better at is getting people to play other games out of boredom.
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>>376140540
this might be a hard concept to wrap you head around but walking fucking backwards completely counters a w+m1/m2 pyro retard
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>>376132535
People use the direct hit?
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>>376140639
because its too effective while also taking no effort to do. how is it fair that a soldier who is very good at rocket jumping can just get shoved to the side by a retard pressing mouse 2?
>>376140818
>walking fucking backwards completely counters a w+m1/m2 pyro retard
never said it was hard to fight a pyro, you retard.
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>>376138653
I think the stat screen keeps track of points in a single life
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>>376114367
wow youre so mature and pseudo-intellectual, really make me think
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>>376141246
9/10 times a soldier is rocket jumping and a pyro is near by the result is either:
Soldier shoots the ground quicker than pyro can airblast him, soldier goes flying away,pyro hurt
Pyro is too late to airblast, soldier is gone, pyro is hurt
Soldier is airblasted straight up, soldier looks down to shoot pyro
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>>376141246
you get ambushed by a close range high damage class, and instead of killing you they fuck about airblasting for no reason and you're complaining
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>>376141246
>getting hit by a flamethrower when you can just backpedal
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>>376141439
i'm complaining about how a pyro can completely destroy a players momentum while jumping with little to no effort
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>>376141845
and this bothers you more than a soldier shooting rockets at the ground and killing everything with no effort
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>>376137715
Shotgun, Pistol, Gunslinger/Jag
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>>376141246
>because its too effective while also taking no effort to do.
by that logic removing spy would be a much saner choice than nerfing pyro even further.

walking behind someone and stabbing them in the back takes even less effort.
With pyro you don't have cloak nor disguise to help you.

Pyro is already a severely underpowered class as-is and the only scenario where it is effective is catching people off guard.
Any skilled dps class will dominate a skilled pyro.
Your only chance of having fun as pyro is pubstomping, which sucks when you're on the receiving team.
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>>376142042
>moving goalposts
>>
>playing casual
>one of the teams has 6~8 red medals while the other has 0~1
Why does this happen literally every other game? I thought the matchmaking could balance teams depending on the player's levels
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>>376142409
it's not
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>>376122329
>>376127816
This
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>>376142545
how is it not?
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>>376142674
you've failed to explain what's so bad about being airblasted when there are alternatives like dying, and why it's so bad to be pushed away from a very short range class
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>>376142828
dying has nothing to do with it. the point i've made multiple times is that a pyro can destroy all of a player's momentum by pressing a single button.
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>>376143205
>momentum

are you playing quake or tribes or something
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>tf2 threads
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>>376122329
You guys ready to lose all respect for me?

>dumpster diver rocket launcher
>bat's backup
>equalizer


Brb redownloading tf2
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>>376143324
no i'm playing tf2 where there are different movement options to take advantage of like rocket/sticky jumping.
>>
>Hat Fortress 2
>2017

It's pretty much a husk of it's former self, just let it go already
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>>376143520
>soldier/demo complaining about pyro being op

is this real life
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>>376143526
Same could had been said about your mother's vagina after she gave birth to you but nonetheless I keep shagging her every now and then
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>>376143650
well i suppose i've won this argument then!
hahahahahahaha!
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>overwatch devs wont balance properly and instead just tell people to switch to a counter
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>>376142502
I have 1000+ hours and TF2 and I could stomp on 90% of the people playing casual, but I barely play it. Medals don't mean shit
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>>376143650
They never said it was op, they meant it's annoying. If a person jumps the opposite direction and a pyro manages to airblast them their jump away is negated even though the airblast pushed them the same direction they were flying. And for the record, they never denied that the soldier was easy.
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>>376143650
No it's just a fantasy
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Show us on the doll where the spy touched you.
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>>376145059
qt
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>>376144281
Yeah, but can be a good indicator.
>tfw 9/10, if i'm playing by myself, I am the only red rank on my team
>other team is full of max level pubstompers
>tfw
It's gotten to the point where I recognize most LA server pubstars.
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>>376116083

It already replaced TF2, unfortunately.

25m players > 70k
>>
>We want to turn TF2 into a competitive esport!
>Matchmaking takes several years to implement
>It's a broken mess
>Okay time to balance all these broken weapons and classes!
>Still not here 9 months later
Valve is a fucking joke
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