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Trails in the Sky: The 3rd

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Anyone else beat it yet? What a bittersweet ending. It's a perfect send-off, though.

CROSSBELL WHEN?
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IMAAAAAAAA, SORA WO MIAGETEEEEEE

NAZEEEEE, MUNE GA ITAI NO?
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evo > original
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Does Josette ever steal something useful or just tear balms?
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>>376108341
You, you are a disgrace.
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>>376108434
I wouldn't know, I didn't really use her.
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>mfw Tita's post-victory JP voice
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>>376108341
Why they'd have to ruin the art style like this? It's not like this shit is animated.

>>376108005
How are the Keyboard and Mouse support on these games? My controller is in a coma.
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>Run into the enemy in the first dark room in Grimsel Fortress.
>Got careless and hadn't saved since the end of Chapter 3.

Well, there goes that "no running from battles" reward.
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>all those +300-600 to stat accessories
>500+ attack weapons early on
>load up an SC save
>accessories give like +20
>best end game weapons have like 400 attack

I don't know whether to call it progression or stat inflation.
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>>376108735
You, uh, do know that the game autosaves right?
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>>376108735

There's always autosave anon. Just flip the page when you load.
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>>376108005
priest fucks the nun?
important
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>>376108723
I played through all 3 games entirely with a mouse only.
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>>376108902
Nah, they're brother and sister. Not that this means anything in this series, lol.

Anyway, bless XSEED for the love they put into this series. They didn't deserve to lose Ys VIII.
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>haze overrides scent
Thanks for the multiple colors with no downside I guess.
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Do you think they fucked later that day?
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just got Anelace and put the game on hold for a while. It's just so boring and the dialoque so far has been sleep inducing.

SC was so much better.
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>>376109845
What's boring about the dialogue?
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Stopped at chapter 2. Playing Prey at the moment. I agree with >>376109845 SC was much better, though the 3rd so far is also alright, but not good.
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>>376109845
>>376109989
>SC was so much better.

Everyone agrees that SC was the best of the Sky trilogy. People are excited for 3rd because it sets ups the next games.
Having playable Richard and Renne is a plus too
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>>376108341
Trilogy wide mod that replaces all character art and CGs with the Evo ones when?
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>>376108341
absolutely disgusting
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>>376109005
>They didn't deserve to lose Ys VIII.
>implying
they dont deserve shit for constantly trying to guilt trip their fans into double and triple dipping to ensure the falcom train doesnt stop
IMMORAL MARKETING especially when its all bullshit
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>>376109663
I don't think they fucked. It's more like father/adopted daughter kind've relationship.
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>renne's last lines of dialogue in the game
truly heartrending

i really hope they translate the crossbell arc
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>>376110641
its your job to prove that they don't need lots of sales to translate the remaining games though. where's your evidence for the immoral marketing?
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Christ, does this girl have a dagger for a tongue or something?
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oh my
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>porting Cold Steel to PC
>not translating the Crossbell dualogy in its entirety

Waste of resources truthfully. Give the fans what they deserve.
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>>376110874
It's not like the porting is done by the translators. Also if SC/TC sell decently they'll probably do Crosbell after CS3.
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>>376110738
check any interview and pre and post release comments regarding every localization they've ever done
they're guilt tripping the fuck out of the people who already buy their games
despicable
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>>376110874
Ellie!

>>376110954
TC translation finished months ago, what do you think the translators have been doing since?
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>>376110874
Is she best girl? She seems like best girl.
She's the second reason I want to play the Crossbel games so much.
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>>376111001
I'm not sure how many of their translators are freelance vs actual employees, but Trails isn't exactly the only thing xseed is working on.
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are the Crossbell games this good? I've seen you guys hyping it a lot in the threads
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>>376111072
>Trails isn't exactly the only thing xseed is working on.
Well they lost Ys to Nisa and Tokyo Xanadu to Aksys.
What else are they working on right now?
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>>376110738
>its your job to prove that they don't need lots of sales to translate the remaining games
Sequels sell like shit. FC sold over 300k on PC in the west, and CS1 also sold out the ass. SC and TC sold like ass because they come with over a hundred hours of baggage. Falcom will want Zero released in the west regardless of xseed's involvement.
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>>376111140
Every game is the best in the series until it gets translated. People used to love Sen when it was Japanese only now it's the worst ever.
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>>376111141
Akiba's Beat is one atleast. Dunno if there's something else now.
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>>376111141
Another Akiba shitfest and an indie FATE game. Basically nothing. Zero, Azure and Cold Steel 3 will probably be the last major games they'll ever work on. Going the way of Ghostlight.
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>>376111227
>CS1 also sold out the ass

So it sold well? Where I can find Falcom's sales numbers. I'm intrigued.
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>>376111141
I wouldn't know, but I'm sure marvelous has some random kusoge they haven't released yet.
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>>376111140
They are great, yes.

>>376111351
No, they didn't. Stop posting bullshit.
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Are you ready for NISA to localize Cold Steel 3? Are you ready for Xseed to fight tooth and nail for the chance to cash-in on Falcom one last time with Crossbell?
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>>376111463
I just want the games to come to the West. If that means competition for licensure, then yes, I'm ready.
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>still havent beaten FC after buying it day 1
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>>376111463

who cares about translation drama, nigger. Whoever translates them, everybody wins, since we get to play those games.
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>>376111463
No matter how bad you might think Xseed is, they aren't as dire as Nisa. We don't want meme translations, characters being renamed from "Esty Erhart" to "Esty Dee" or PS3 destroying bugs.
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>the first fight in the first chapter is goddamn Gilbert
Also hey, he keeps improving.
Slowly.
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>>376111463
I couldn't care less since I'm going to import it.
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>>376111607
You're still in the prologue, not the first chapter.
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>>376111596
I'll take memes and rapid localization over a company that's constantly in a state of doom and gloom and exploits its desperate fanbase at every opportunity.
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I'm playing FC and boy is this fucking tedious. Why did I ever pick hard mode? This battle system makes me want to kill myself.
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Will XSEED ever port Ys Seven to PC? I've played it countless times already on PSP, but even so, it's strange not to see it on PC.
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>>376111763
>exploits its desperate fanbase at every opportunity.

>I'm being forced to give them my money! It's not fair!
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>Josette stole Attack 3 from the Centaur boss in chapter 2

BEST GIRL
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>>376111768
Have fun in the final dungeon, where every enemy gets 3 turns each before you get 1.
>>376111786
That ship has sailed. We NISA now. Also, you can play it on PC via PPSSPP at 4k with shaders and a 60 or 120 fps hack.
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>>376108598
>mfw Ries' post-victory JP voice
... お腹へたな.
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>>376111763
It's not just memes, it's system destroying bugs and glitches not present in the original, it's NoA tier liberties taken with lines that really don't need it, it's having the sensibilities and humor of a twelve year and so on and so forth. XSEED are a small company and their "guilt trips" as you want them to be called may be annoying but at least their translations aren't fucking awful and they're clearly not in it for the profit seeing as Trails is as niche as niche gets
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>>376111856
>knows existing demographic will buy literally everything they bring over
>still turns up the guilt tripping to 11 on platforms only followed by said fanbase
YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS BUYING OUR GAMES ONCE IS NOT ENOUGH! BUY THEM SEVERAL TIMES OR YOU WILL NOT GET *insert game here*, FAGGOT!
>o-ok
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well shit, Zero has some nice tunes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VSDw8VwaNE
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>>376111351
>SC before translation
>best in the TitS trilogy

>SC after translation
>best in the TitS trilogy

/v/'s general consensus is pretty consistent with Falcom games. What /v/ expected and got from 3rd is a game that's not as great as SC but is pretty good and sets up future games.
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>>376111979
>accepting money from people who like what you do and want to support you is exploitative

Just don't follow those platforms if it bothers you. Nothing bad will happen if you only buy the game once.
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>>376111979
Just pirate the games if you aren't going to buy it.
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>>376111979
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>tfw have gifted the Kiseki games 3 times to different people in the span of a year

Not ashamed. Not a shill either.
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What the fuck did I just watch?
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>>376111141
>Akiba's Beat
>Fate/EXTELLA Switch port
>CS1/CS2 PC ports
>Senran Kagura: PBS
>Story of Seasons DLC/patches
There might be more games they haven't announced yet too.
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>People actually wanting NISA to take over the Trails franchise
You're either those rabid fanboys or naive people who haven't seen how NISA butchers their games. Expect game/platform breaking bugs exclusive to the western version, shoddy translations, cut out content, memes and much more.
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>>376111561
spoken like a pleb who probably thought persona5 had no problems.
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>>376112393
Translating, moron.
Fate and Cold Steel are ports, as you even said.
What the fuck is there to translate in that?
Akiba's Beat is probably into QA by now too.

So Yeah I guess all their translators are working full steam on big ol titty Kaguras right now.
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Julia's camp portrait is fucking awful. What the fuck was Falcom thinking? She isn't feminine at all.
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>>376111351
They did not, the proto-NEVER EVER posting was one guy back when it came out and everyone consistently pointed out how shitty it actually was
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>>376112490
Who cares about any of those as long as we get dual audio.
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>>376112606

I didn't play Persona 5 and honestly have no drive to do so.
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>>376112606
>P5 had a bad translation
Hello, Anthony. How's your life going?
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>>376112490
Who cares if NISA renames the cast and butchers the script and censors the nudity and blows up my Vita?
At least they won't keep giving our exclusives to PC like those traitors at Xseed.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12906016
http://www.strawpoll.me/12906016
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>>376112376
The problem is that the incessant guilt tripping doesn't stop. Put it this way, FC sold around 500k copies on PC across GoG and Steam, and they STILL say you have to buy a billion copies each if you want there to be any hope of future LoH localizations. They're a bunch of scumbags.

>oooh, so you bought our game and got 4 more friends to do so as well?
>what's that? our game generated a 1000% profit of the localization costs?
NO FUCK YOU THE FUTURE IS UNCERTAIN THESE GAME SIMPLY DO NOT SELL FUCK YOU BUY MY FUCKING GAME TEN TIMES THEN COME BACK TO ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I will literally celebrate when XSeed dies in a few years.
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Jesus. Nisafags are out in full force today.
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>>376112668
That's cause Julia is super manly
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>>376112687
THERE IS BARELY ANY VA IN ANY TITS GAME WHAT ARE YOU EVEN COMPLAINING ABOUT EVO IS LITERALLY NEVER EVER TIER
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>inb4 linking to Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/Falcom/comments/5jfhlh/you_know_that_zero_no_kiseki_fan_translation/

I'm confused here, who is this person who seems to be working hard on Ao/Zero translation like this? it doesn't seem to be affiliated with XSEED
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>>376111979
Nobody is going to buy Akiba's beat no matter how much you think they're guilt tripping
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>>376112856
>t. Hatsuu

FUCKING KILL YOURSELF YOU FAT COW. KEEP SHILLING YOUR SHITTY DUBS, YOU FUCKING FAGGOT.

ANY OF YOU XSEEDSHILLS WHO ARE IN THIS THREAD SHOULD OFF YOURSELF RIGHT NOW.
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lol EOPs
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>>376112754
Just don't listen to them?
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>>376112895
omgfloofy. She ran a Kiseki fan site for 10+ years (and still does). Original leader of Zero fantranslation abandoned the project, so others took over. They're currently editing the text. They also imported Evo voices and portraits into the game. Current release date is unknown.
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>>376112943
Anon are you okay?
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>>376112818
>Nisafags
>plural
It's literally just the one guy spamming every one of these threads. Eventually he gets butthurt enough to leave only to come back the next thread.
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I don't remember Trail threads being this aggressive. What happened?
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>>376113035
Yeah, my mistake. I've seen him several times, but thought it was at least 2 people since almost every kiseki/xseed thread is like this now. Does he even sleep? He reminds me of XV-kun.
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>>376112895
I wouldn't get too excited about that. We know the original translation was shit and even if you have competent people polishing shit, the end result will still be shit. Not to mention there's no guarantee they'll finish it, wouldn't be surprised if they get a letter from Falcom.
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About to start the 3rd.
Are Kevin and Ries in romantic relationships or it's just all a pure tease?
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>>376113102
One of the anons here actually has the translation. Said it's pretty good, but needs a lot of editing which is what they're doing right now. I doubt Falcom will do shit. It's not the first time their game is getting fan translated. And these 3 people are pretty competent unlike that previous guy who left.
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>>376113023

Wow that's very impressive, lots of dedication there. This makes a release of Ao somewhat possible, since XSEED probably won't touch it until CS2 is ported to Steam.
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>>376113071
All you have to do is put Cold Steel coming to PC in the OP or bring up NISA and you get instant shitposts
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>>376113071
Falseflaggers pretending to be enraged Vitafags mad at loss of exclusives acting like XSEED is satan incarnate in order to get easy (you)s.
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>>376113071
I'm not sure I agree.

Subhuman EOPs who played the initial English release of FC were always really prideful about it and thought themselves better than fans of more mainstream RPGs.

From my extrernal viewpoint it was hilarious of course - subhuman EOPs thinking themselves above other subhuman EOPs.
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>>376113104
RIES IS PURE NUN YOU HEATHEN
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>>376113071
Everyone realized that you can't satisfy XSEED and that they take the professional victim role to a company wide level. Luckily 90% of the community has stopped listening to their bullshit and simply buy the game they're interested in and wait it the fuck out. Even Falcom seemingly had enough of them when they gave both Ys VIII and Tokyo Xanadu to Aksys and NISA.
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Just finished CSII. Unfortunately won't be able to play 3rd for a while. Would've made for a great palate cleanser after that bullshit.

>>376113096
Every series has at least one infamous autist on /v/, like AC fag and XV-kun
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>>376113154
>Said it's pretty good
He said the latter part but certainly not this.
Also judging by the screenshot he posted it needs more than just a lot of editing.
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>>376113195
You have to go back.
>>>/jp/16961977
>>>/vg/175970318
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>>376113231
>Every series has at least one infamous autist on /v/, like AC fag and XV-kun

All me.
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>>376113102
>wouldn't be surprised if they get a letter from Falcom.

this is an extremely niche series, they won't even bother
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>>376113283
If anything, I'm sure there's overlap between EOPs ITT and EOPs in that /vg/ thread.
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>>376113317
Not anymore. CS1 and 2 sold over 2 million copies.
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>>376108341
>that anime tier shading
>that bloom to hide the lack of detail
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>>376113195
autism
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>>376113458
Tell us about your failure to progress in learning Japanese and all the ressentiment it caused in you.
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>>376113442
It's not bloom dipshit, it's just a lighter color palette
I mean most of the Evo portraits are inferior but if you're gonna criticize them do it right
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*Casts Devastation Blast*
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I gave up on the first one, near the end. I somehow managed to force myself to the final chapter but then it was too fucking boring to go on. I just couldn't stand the game anymore, it's one of the most boring, repetitive, easy, repetitive and generic rpgs I've ever played. There is literally no difference in stakes, strategy or anything between the first chapter and the last one, how can you faggot stand that absolute shit game is one of the great mysteries of /v/ for me.

If you want to play an old school jrpg play the fucking first Grandia or something, it's far better in every possible aspect down to the npc banter you shitlords kept raving about in favor of TitS.
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>>376112943
You have serious issues. Get help.
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How were the Evo portraits received over in Japan?
Do they think they are as shitty looking as we do or do they like moeblob Estelle as is the fashion of today?
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so Agate abandoned his Bracer job to accompany Tita to Erebonia as a bodyguard or something?
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>>376113489
Tell us about how you compensate for being a complete failure in life by learning a language for the sole purpose of playing video games then acting high and mighty on an anonymous forum for fans of Indonesian puppet shows.
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>>376113653
Bracers can work as bodyguards for hire, why would he quit?
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>>376113737
Yes, making yourself think Japanese is useful only for video game and anime etc. is definetly a common part of the ressentiment in people like you.
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>>376113751

Yeah, but who's paying for it? I doubt her mom would willingly back that bill considering how much her daughter wants to find her way inside his pants.
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>>376113845
If she's doing something important the crown could fund it. They paid ZCF for shit like the Arsielle before.
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Hatsuu is a fucking whore for holding Crossbell hostage. Hope the vapid cunt kills herself for being a fat annoying bitch who cries because she lost Ys.

XSEED are fucking garbage and always will be.
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why is so cute like this jesus christ
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>>376113949
She's perfect.
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My my, what a salty thread
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>>376114047
XSEED are actively ruining Kiseki, yes I'm fucking mad.
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>>376113653
>376113653
>Agate and Tita.

time to start playing cold steel
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>>376113845
Why would Agate need to be paid to protect his girlfriend
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>this very thread
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>>376114210
Fie, you're a little sweetie.
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>tfw too many characters and i can't decide who the fuck i want to use
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>>376108341
Wait are the PC versions like this?
Because that looks like shit
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>>376113071
Not the guy who's been sperging out, but I can understand why he views XSeed that way.

I mentioned that I wouldn't buy games from publishers that prioritise english dubs over the original voices a year or so ago on the steam forums, and one of the staff members sent me a chat request on steam just to bitch at how I was destroying the localisation industry. They said something along the lines of "voting with your wallet is misguided bullshit, all you're telling us is that westerners don't want JRPGs" and when I replied to them saying that I'd rather not have JRPGs with liberal translations and ear-raping English dubs they said I gave weeaboos a bad name and blocked me.
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>>376114320
Level everyone evenly. It's important.
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>>376114157

Well, yeah, I think it's very likely that he offered to go there with her without any compensation whatsoever, and as a senior Bracer he can just get jobs there without much fuss as well. I'd be impressed if no one ever heard of him in Erebonia after being involved in so many big events during FC/SC like that.
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>>376114407
XSEED do plenty of butchering with their translations on top of the God awful English dubs they force down EOPs throats.
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>>376113653
Aww yeah my boy is finally back. Does this mean Randy will return too?
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>>376114407
Not that guy either but I also agree.

I saw Hatsuu at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told her how cool it was to meet her in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother her and ask her for photos or anything.
She said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but she kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing her hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard her chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw her trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in her hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Mam, you need to pay for those first.” At first she kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, she stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, she kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
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>Everyone just ignores the NISAfag
>He resorts to samefagging and pretending he's someone else
How pathetic can you get.

>>376114615
kek. Haven't seen this one in a while.
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I still can't believe we'll get CS1 and 2 on Steam, shit's like a dream come true
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>>376114738
Not even the same person, famalam.
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>>376114541
People who use "EOP" unironically are usually stuck between N3-N2.
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>so many characters not sure who to pick anymore
Kevin's obviously the "heals + zodiac" guy since there are better Art Attackers with more flexible orb lines but damn. Physical wise everyone seems all right with Tiger Heart.
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>>376114405
Top one is the original pc version, bottom is the new remake only out in japan.
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>>376114407
i like toying with those people

just tell them that you doubt they added you in order to have a rational discussion and then they topple over easier than the twin towers
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>>376114876
>Kevin's obviously the "heals + zodiac" guy

That's because he is still holding back
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>>376114870
Why would I listen to anything a cuck like you says? Continue being a beta nu-male to Hatsuu, I'm sure if you'll beg enough she'll give you Crossbell one day.
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>>376115139
>t. N2-kun
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>>376114876
The only really bad characters are Josette and Estelle now that Tita is a Top 5 character and Anelace gets her super sword
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>>376115173
>t. XSEED shill
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>>376115219
Hardly. I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy.
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>>376114876
Always pick waifu
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>>376115198
>now that Tita is a Top 5 character
She is?
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>>376115491
Tita gets a Metal Gear that turns her into a completely different character
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>BUY OUR FUCKING GAMES FAGGOT
Ok, I bought your games. :)
>GOOD, NOW BUY 3 MORE COPIES OF EACH. YOU WANT ZERO DON'T YOU, YOU LITTLE FAGGOT?
Y-y-yes master... *seeks asylum from XSEED in NISA's closet*
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Renne is for _____
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>>376115598
Metal Gear?
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>>376115729
rape
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>>376110874
U wot m8

They aren't translating anything, CS 1 and 2 are already in English, complete with dubs.
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https://discord.gg/KBeD9Pe

i made a discord for us falcom fans
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>>376115962
There's already a Falcom discord with ~170 members.
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>>376115962
Pass.
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>>376114764
>Tfw no one believed me when I said that CS3 would either get a PS3 release or a Steam release

Vitafags make up like 60% of Cold Steel sales, need to salvage those sales somehow, especially if you are making a more expensive and ambitious game.
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>>376115729
see
>>376113514
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>>376116031
please post it then
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>>376111023
there's a lot of best girls in the Trails series
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>>376115729
Getting jobbed by Cumpanella
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Major Vander's Japanese is so amazing and manly.
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>>376116120
https://www.discord.gg/0p2ysp1kY6yvHEel
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Anyone encounter this bug? In the first dungeon area the monument and the blue swirling background are flickering, the only way it stops flickering is if I make the resolution tiny but then the game's unplayable because it's too tiny
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>>376116284
Yup. It was flickering for me as well.
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>>376116161
>finally a Sara doujin
>half the panels wasted on Rean's face
Shikei is a hack.
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>>376113785
>making yourself think Japanese is useful only for video game and anime etc.
It IS only useful for video games and puppet shows. Unless you're living in or doing a lot of business in Japan (inb4 the "I run my own small business!" meme), it is literally worthless.
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Do you get something for beating Mueller in the first star door?
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>>376115060
What? I just got him back so i know about his new S-break but is it really that much of a difference? Olivier still has higher magical damage.
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>Now retards are just pulling spoilers right on the OP
holy fuck kill yourselves retards
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Man, fuck the fishing minigame, not only is it long as fuck, it all depends if the game decides to give you a big fish or nothing, pure rng.
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>>376116284
I saw it too but only for that monument.
I think it's just z fighting.
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Damn, only 8 hours in and still on Chapter 2.
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>>376116635
Nope, Julia just says that she could tell he was holding back and he says he wasn't and then the conversation continues the same way whether you beat him or not.
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>>376108005
>Father Kevin
>homo hoop earring

What did they mean by this?
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>>376111140
The amount of "holy shit" moments in AO are great, and you get pretty invested. Plus, Zero is a nice mix of cozy and serious, with it taking place in a big and more advanced city with a rookie investigator and his co.workers.
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>>376109663
She was too busy trapping everyone inside Phantasma for that
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>Beautiful, kind, dignified young woman
>Crown princess of Liberl
>Literally perfect waifu material
>Still can't get a man to love her
what gives, falcom?
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>>376118116
FLAT
L
A
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Best husbando
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>>376118405
He's pretty great
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>>376118116
She's BORING perfect waifu materiel.
She also can't get one angsty nothing personnel man to love her, not men in general.
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>>376118157
Where's that FC Evo swimsuit poster where Kloe has bazongas
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>that guitar on Fighting Right On
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>>376117787
>he was holding back
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>>376118116

the life of a queen is full of restrictions, you can't even go take a shit without guards following you, who would want to get in a relationship with someone like that.
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>>376118495
One day he'll return as a deity made of salt and vengeance ready to obliterate all the mockers and nonbelievers. On that day, I will laugh at you
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>>376118675
He says he wasn't and its believable tbqh
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>>376118761
Then I'll put him on my chips.
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>>376118813
He'll be like the Salt Pale except he won't run out of energy. You and your chips will be turned into salt as he keeps growing in energy until his powers reach a level capable of challenging Aidios herself
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>get a nun rookie
>lvl 90
Let me guess. Is she holding back?
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>Keep hearing people joke about "having to use Josette"
>Final chapter of SC, find her stranded and then forced to use to rescue the capuas
>Those goddamn stats
>Two useless crafts, and the debuff one won't even work against 99% of the enemies
>Abysmal ATS below Estelle

Holy shit, i didn't think she would be this bad.
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Man, don't fucking bother with the fishing minigame, this is the reward. What the fuck Falcom
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>>376119050
Estelle is a cutie
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>>376118116
She should just fuck Julia desu
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>>376119018
Name one character of this series who isn't holding back
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>>376119050
>not wanting proof of your supremacy
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>>376109845
>SC was so much better
You serious? I thought that one was boring as fuck like the first game and this one is even worse somehow?
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>>376119169

Gilbert.
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>>376119226
If you found the first two boring you'll probably like this one as its almost entirely dungeon crawling.
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>>376119295
>ywn cuck Dan
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>>376119295
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>>376119264
That's just what he wants you to think
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>>376119102
She's the cutest!
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>>376119226
It's different.
You don't backtrack and talk to NPC for hours before something happens. The whole game is just a big dungeon with optional side stories for most characters.
I can see why some people who liked the exploration and going on a journey aspect of the previous games might find it boring because of that.
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>>376119018
She'll a grailsritter squire so she's more like a new SAS member rather than an actual rookie.
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>>376119024
Don't forget no S-Craft
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After the initial disappointment that its nothing like the first two wore off I'm enjoying third chapter. I wish we'd gotten something more like the first two but its still fun.

I wish the whole game had been like the prologue with hunting artefacts tbqh
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>>376119050
>Don't do all the content

Next thing you'll try and tell me not to use Estelle.
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>>376119836
What? She has the bobcat s-craft if you do the minigame.
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Don't see where the complaints are coming from, personally. Yeah you're in a dungeon, but that doesn't make the story and atmosphere less interesting. I just started chapter3 and really enjoying learning more about what's going on.
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>>376119917
He was talking about SC.
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>tfw that intro immediately after the falcom logo
Short and sweet, but really sets the tone. I let it play every time I start up the game.
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>>376119841
I was kinda disappointed too but I got hooked anyway after about 3 chapters.
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Are there no steam background for 3rd just card? Not that I would replace this one anyway but still.
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>>376120517
If theres cards theres backgrounds.
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>>376120517
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steamcommunity/public/images/items/436670/5b0ff598c45d7f50a1e63028c78b6c0673511c72.jpg

http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steamcommunity/public/images/items/436670/3edf10e58f592d30a2f277340d79dbad758117d9.jpg

I've got these two but you can only start selling them a week from now.
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So is Olivier the one of the main characters who popped up in most of the games so far?

I think he was in Sky 1-3, Ao, and Cold steel 1-3 right?
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>should we help Gilbert
>nah Campanella will find it funnier if we leave him
jej
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>>376120065
I guess people expected it to be like FC/SC with an in-depth story, excessive amounts of dialogue and tons of NPCs to talk to at every turn. This game doesn't offer much of any of that so I can understand the complaints. That said, I'm still enjoying it a lot as well.

>>376120305
Same, mostly because I love that track, especially the modified tetracyclic towers theme at 0:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_xWNmcD1cM

>>376120517
The trading cards wiki/exchange for this game aren't up yet but you can check out the backgrounds people have put on the market

http://steamcommunity.com/market/search?q=Trails+in+the+Sky+the+3rd+background
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>>376120828
He's shown up in mostly all of the Trails games
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>>376120517
http://www.steamcardexchange.net/index.php?gamepage-appid-436670
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>>376121560
>TFW he dies in Sen 3
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>>376120828

The only people i can think of that show up in all three parts besides him are like Lechter, Osbourne and of course best guy Anton.
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>>376121774
>they all have girls on
Looks like this is going to be a profitable badge to make.
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>>376121823
Delet this
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>>376121978
There's probably more too, that site only shows the ones that have appeared on the market. FC and SC both had 10 total.
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>>376122041
Major Vander has an excellent seiyuu
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Feels like there aren't enough party member slots in this game, man.

Don't get me wrong, I like Ries and Kevin, but it's a shame they take up two party slots at all times. I don't want to drop Tita but I know I'll have no choice once I get Estelle back.

>>376121918
Bleublanc
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>>376122386
Late game only Kevin is mandatory so you can drop the nun if you want.

Although Olivier and Renne having the best orbment setups possible really make it hard not to pick those 2 for maximum magic.
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>You will never have a dragon friend like this
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>>376122561
Meh I'll just roll with the Kevin Ries Estelle Joshua "double date party" when i can
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>>376122386
The first game got it right with party members coming in and out of your party as the story advanced

>>376122762
>not Kevin Kloe Josette Joshua 'desperate advances' party
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>Kevin's fucking getup at the start of the game
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>>376122762
>resisting Olivier's perfect orbment
Are you gay?
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>>376118116
Anon, she will get the best one.
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How do you fix some of the stuttering issues?
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>>376123181
Open the config and change the framerate from automatic to 60 or 30.
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>>376123181
Try turning on hardware vertex shading. Stutter's gone after that for me.
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>>376123181
Enabling the hardware vertex shading worked for me
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>>376122561
Is Renne's set-up better than Kloe's?
I rolled with Kloe and Olivier for the most of SC when I could.
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>>376123351
Renne is much better since she's not stuck being forced to use 3 water orbments.
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>>376123254
>>376123274
>>376123284
Now it works. Thanks mates.
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>>376123274
>>376123284
Didn't the developer stated that Hardware vertex is for when you have a dedicated GPU, but have some serious issues if you only have a integrated GPU?
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>>376123351
Technically it's even better than Olivier's since his first slot is restricted to mirage(mirage's useful though so that's not really a problem). Her orbment is the same as Olivier in terms of being a single line while having 0 restrictions.
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man I have no idea about how to setup orbments.

well atleast analace, zin and vander reck everything.
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>>376124474
Open your quest journal and click the guide tabs at the top.
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>>376124474
If you find it boring to look up sepith count for hte spells you want, just take someone with a long orbment line as your dedicated Arts user.
There's nothing wrong with focusing mainly on physical attackers and just giving them stat boosting quartz like Attack 3 and such.
I recommend you give everyone Action quartz.
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>>376124474
I know that feel. There are fuckload of spells and it ain't easy finding a perfect set up on guys with more restrictive orbments.

Some spells to look out for are healing ones, earth wall(it's expensive but worth it, a barrier that blocks one hit, be it insta kill S-break or whatever) and buffs like La Forte, Zodiac etc. Damage wise Time and Yellow spells did good for me(AOE Lost Mobius kills 99% of enemies and is good for bosses too since enemies love being weak to space magic). Don't forget Cast 2 quartz, by the way. With it you can cast shit(depends on the spell but healing ones are super fast) pretty much instantly to save everyone.

I'd roll with Olivier and Kloe because their orbments are less restrictive so you can put all kinds of gems there to get plenty of spells(Olivier's a bit better there since Kloe got some water-only slots) and just try them out to get a feel for what spells are good and what not.
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>>376124676
Focusing on physical attackers will fuck you over when you start encountering things that are highly resistant to physical attacks.
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>>376124474
Important Caster Quartz:
Cast(mandatory for all casters)
Mind(mandatory for all casters)
EP Cut(mandatory for all casters)
Evade/Scent(wind quartz points needed for AOE arts)

Important physical quartz:
Attack(mandatory for all physical attackers)
Strike(mandatory for all physical attackers)
Hit(mandatory for all physical attackers

Other Quartz:
Action(mandatory for everybody)
Ingenuity(very handy)
Defense(needed for Earth Wall)
Septium Vein
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What'll we do when this is all over, lads? How long until crossbell
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>>376108341
>Top: 90s anime
>Bottom: Modern anime
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>>376126230
Cold Steel this summer on PC.
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>>376126230
I think 3rd was announced almost a year in advance.
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Cold steel happens at the same time as the events of Crossbell right?
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>>376126230
CS undub pls
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>>376124676
>>376124957
>>376125548
thanks lads, these helped a lot.
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>>376127437
It was announced in march 2016 so over a year in advance.

but xseeds bigger now so it'll be quicker r-right!
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>>376127497
A bigger Xseed only means anything for Trails if it means more people to work on Xseed's other projects.
The size of the team for Trails is better kept small to ensure consistency, or so I've heard.
>>
I've never used action on anyone other than Joshua in all other games and it was fine desu. Is it really that important? I can't really squeeze it in most of the time because I prefer stuff like EP on casters.
Never used strike either. Why use it when you can use KO? Bosses?
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>>376127712
Might be able to afford better, faster translators though and speed up things like QA.
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>>376127734
>>376125548
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>>376127454
Correct
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>no hollow light of the sealed lands in the Grancel ruins
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>>376128769
Could be worse.
Could be no land of the blue skies in CS2.
Seriously, what the fuck were they thinking?
That's my favourite overworld theme in anything ever and they forgot to put it back in?
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>>376128884
But Hollow Light is the best track in the entire franchise. Depriving me of it is evil.
>>
Orbal...Gear?
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>>376111023
Boring non tsun not capable of doing anything other than being the impled interest of the protagonist.And all the female characters are way better options, even wazy.
In otherwords, proto-type Alisa.
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>>376129454
She's unstoppable.
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>>376110874
They know Cold Steel will sell better.
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Rostrum gets another move if it calls allies
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You guys weren't lying when you said the 3rd was basically a visual novel with dungeon sections, jeez.
A pretty sweet visual novel though
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>>376129454
>>376129829
>Full strength & speed Tita
>buff str & speed
>Go Orbal Gear
>Be the only one standing after Cassius' S-break and solo finish the fight
She's a fucking monster
>>
>unimpedable massive damage full arena craft
Hmm
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Can you actually beat Muller as Schwarz during their battle? It's fucking impossible

I've lost two times already
It's there any way to skip the entire cutscene? it takes like 10 minutes, holy shit
I love story, but when it comes with a boss battle that not so easy, i wish i could just skip it since i already saw the cutscenes.
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>>376130363
>losing to someone who's holding back
yes, you can
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>>376130363
Hold CTRL
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>>376130845
i fucking love you
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>>376130363
The battle is mostly about building up your cp as fast and you can to spam your S-craft as soon as you can.
Though when Mueller reaches about 1/3 hp, you should probably use your guard craft to block the S-craft he's about to use.

Also remember you got healing items in your inventory.
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>>376131717
>>376130602
just beat him
It just took for him to miss two times, and me having first turn
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Does the Fortune and Septium quartz only improve drop rates if the equipped person gets the kill, or the whole battle?
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>>376130363
I only played on normal but the fight was honestly easy for me. Build up cp with regular attacks, spam s-craft, and heal with teara as necessary
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>tfw not much time to play this weekend and need to spend some time farming sepith instead of continuing the story
At least I have josette
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>>376132104
i think its the whole battle
check the in-game guide though, it should say there
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>>376127454

I didn't even play the game but I can tell by that picture that the white haired girl is best girl
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>>376132915
If i remember right, Elie is supposed to be the girl who gets pushed as a love interest for the main character if you do her bonding events.
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>>376133213
They need to stop with that bullshit and just have an actual love interest if they want romance to have any place in the game. Stupid subtle hints and the retarded Persona lite stuff we got in CS was bottom of the barrel level writing.
>>
Where is the first shining pom so i can start grinding like an autist?
>>
Why doesn't Mueller fuck Julia?
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>>376133338
Why can't they just come out and say it? Are they purposely doing the open ended vague shit so that weebs won't get angry because their waifu didn't win?
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>>376133461
End of chapter 2 iirc
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>>376133484

Because Mueller is into boypussy.
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>>376133484
>implying he doesn't
You need to read between the lines in TiTS.
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>>376133461
someone said chapter 2 in another thread, check the archive.
>>376133484
Mueller is for olivier and julia for lesbians
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>>376133461
Grancel docks.
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>>376133484
Julia isn't even hot to begin with
Nothing against short hair, but that isnt short hair, thats a man hair
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>>376133213
By that do you mean they become actual love interests or shitty relationbait that doesn't actually clarify anything
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>>376133461
>>376133545
I think every single other girl in the game only gets more of a friendship boost rather than a love interest route.

The girl are interested in the MC though. One of them even calls him a Gigolo because he's too innocent and easily makes comments that would make women get the wrong idea.

Elie's the only one who gets to have actual romance moments i think.
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>fresh water has a green model and uses a tea leaf
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>that moan when riesz gets hit
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>>376133671
They literally get together in the end if you focus on seeing her events i think. Everyone else is more of a friendship thing.

I think he confesses to her that he's been charmed by her, and how he slowly saw that she was reliable, caring and such and basically tells her he loves him.
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what went so wrong with this series
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>>376133924
He loves her i meant.
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>>376133685
Rixia gets a hug/embrace. Tio gets a headpat, Noel gets ??? I don't remember.
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>Almost every door I'm seeing subtle romantic hints between party members and side characters
>Mueller/Julia
>Zin/Kilika
>Kloe/Lechter

Send help, my delusions are out of control.
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>>376134000
Modern anime happened.
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>>376134142
I think Rixia's was some sort of motivational speech for her relating to her father, and she breaks down upon hearing it and he hugs her to comfort him.

Also Tio gets a hug too she removes her front plating to hug him properly even.
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>>376134286
so what are we going to get in the new games? isekai? defeat the demon king?
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>>376134256
All reasonable except Kloe/Lechter
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>tfw you'll never hug Lila
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>>376134418
Only Maybelle can hug Lila
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>>376134256
>>376134378
>Kloe/Lechter
To be fair Lechter's just a fucking dick in general
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>>376133545
Basically. They're going the weeb route and not committing to a canon relationship, so people can ship whoever. Story suffers from it though. It's supposed to be Lloyd/Elie and Rean/Alisa, but now it'd probably be awkward to use those relationships in future games. Pretty annoying seeing how well Joshua/Estelle (as well as the semi-established duos like Ries/Kevin or Agate/Tita) was done in comparison.

>>376130363
If you're on normal, only use basic attacks and S-Craft as soon as it's up each time. Heal with Teara/items whenever you get the max healing benefit (like don't heal for 2k if you're only missing 1k HP).

If you're on a higher difficulty, you have to try and guess when he uses his S-craft/hard hitting moves and guard against them.
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I mean, i'm not saying Cold steel doesn't have some bad characters, but most of the criticism i see seems to stem from the fact that they're stereotypes right?

if you think about it, Sky is filled with 90's tropes and stereotypes too. It just feels more fresh for us now because its less common. Hell, Estelle was those hair vent hair thingies that every girl had back then.
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>>376134314
Rixia's was lloyd pretty much saying he wants to be her daddy and watch over her.
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>>376134580
Most of the criticism stems from the fact most of their development is shoved into bonding events, which makes them pretty barren.
It even makes NPCs be actually way more compelling and interesting characters. I'm not even talking about relevant people like Patrick, even fucking Alan has more development than some of your teammates.
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>>376134892
Its the same problem persona 4 has, you add bonding events to the main cast and because they need to be meaningful for people to do them all of the character development is rammed into them and then since they're optional and can be done at any time characters don't develop.
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>>376134580

90's tropes were the best
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Salt pale story was actually interesting
It's like a creepypasta, or a SCP object
what the fuck
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>>376134561
>Story suffers from it though
To be completely fair to the concept, this isn't even a good example of it since the writing in CS in general took a big hit. In TitS there are some contrived plot points and you do get the occasional stilted or awkward bit of dialogue, but in CS1 barely anything happens at all and you get to enjoy the nothing with a bunch of bland characters talking in a way that doesn't sound the least bit natural. In CS2 nearly the entire plot is beyond contrived and, once again, the characters are very weak, and the dialogue is even worse than in the first game.


>>376134580
No, most of the criticism is that the tropes in CS are executed poorly and there is very little to each of the (way too many) characters that make up the main cast beyond those tropes (even in their bonding events, which are poorly written and even more poorly implemented).

>>376135090
The main cast in Persona 4 is smaller and each character gets a lot more focus even in the main story. Sure, they don't get an arc if you don't do their Social Links, but Social Links are an integral part of Persona 4 whereas bonding events are a very small part of CS.
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>>376134580
It's not really an issue with stereotypes, but rather with the current trend of being able to pick a waifu. Because any girl can potentially be romanced, that means no girl can have meaningful dynamics with other characters. So there can't be any good development like with Agate and Tita, or even fun stuff like with Schera and Olivier.
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>>376135408
Being able to choose a waifu really is killing RPGs.
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>>376134580
The stereotypes are a lot less blatant in TitS and the characters have the advantage of being better written and more likable.

I mean, let's be honest here. What the hell do Elliot, Laura, and Gaius have that makes them stand out as characters?
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>>376135391
Theres not enough time to do every social link in P4 and the effects of the social links aren't reflected in the main story. Its possible and fairly easy for a party member to have no development whatsoever beyond their dungeon because of it. Persona 3 handles it far better.
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>>376135408
I think the issue is that they leave everything to the bonding events for some character development. Otherwise the rest they get isn't that much more meaningful.
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>>376135829
>Theres not enough time to do every social link in P4
What?
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>>376135289
The music really helped the immersion in that door.
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>>376135408
This. Imagine if TitS let you go after Tita or even Kloe if you chose so. That would've hurt Agate and Kloe as characters because now Agate has nothing to fight for and Kloe doesn't develop and accepts rejection and because there's a possibility that some player can go that way, they just straight up remove those interactions to begin with and the story suffers as a whole.
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>>376135289
Speaking of that, is there any other object with a similar deal to the salt pale?
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>Gilbert in that Kloe flashback

Where did it all go wrong for him.
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>>376134580
Sky uses stereotypes and tropes but tries to integrate them into the story and generally executes them well. Cold Steel stuffs modern anime tropes/stereotypes into the game where they have no business being there.

"We're high school students guys! Let's graduate high school and fight for friendship! Class VII yay!" It's so dumb. Never mind the fact that for some contrived reason, a dozen or so teenagers were entrusted with a state-of-the-art ship in the midst of a civil war.
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>>376135897
If you're not reading from a guide you're not going to get every social link and doing that completely kills the fun.
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>>376134580
The truth is that the Sky games have not aged well and story-wise they were not very good either. Cold Steel is the way to go for the series now and no amount of vocal butthurt is going to change that.
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>>376135897
You need to be particularly autistic about timings and order in which to do them to get them all to fit.
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>>376136129
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>>376136129
I don't particularly like the characters in cold steel, but i don't think the way they're going about it makes sense.

Develop the characters without binding it to social links. I believe Crossbell had a nice mix, where it was bod bonding events, but also getting to see the characters develop outside of it.
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>>376136275
I don't think bonding events really belong in a trails game
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>>376136020
The pillars in campanella's s-craft
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>>376136129
>The truth is that the Sky games have not aged well
>have not aged well
What the fuck does that even mean?
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>>376108005
Thats fucking Vash.
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>>376136007
>Oh Agate, thank's for all you've done for me come visit me at home
>oops sorry I actually love Estelle now and going to marry her.

I bet some of you fucks would actually love to see that.
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>>376136275
Most of the their individual story developments happens outside the Bond point events, those are only for specific developments with Rean and nothing more.
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By Aidios, you people didn't lie.
The combat really is leagues above FC/SC.
That first boss is more interesting than pretty much anything I've seen in those.
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Evo is clearly better in every way. People only complain about muh anime style art. Guessing it's a bunch of eop that have never played evo.
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>>376136623
Milium crying at the end of CS2 only makes sense of you did her bonding events.
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>>376136787
Even regular mobs are interesting to fight and need actual tactics.

Positioning actually mattering now is also a massive plus.
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>>376136819
Music is worse, art is worse. The only good t hing about the evo versions is the voice acting.
t. someone that actually played the evo versions of the games
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>>376137037
Didn't evo also have some extra quests? I haven't played both an evo game, and the original version to compare though.
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>>376108005
Lots of people beat it years ago OP.
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STAY HERE OR GO BACK?
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>>376136819
The voice acting is nice but otherwise it's the same game. The music remixes are fairly underwhelming too, only a few sound nice by comparison to the original. Art style is not my thing but it's not the worst ever.

>>376137107
I believe it's just minor stuff, but nothing super important.
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>>376136949
>oh this looks like some some mage better go get close and smash his fa- oh fuck
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>>376137107
Those sidequests are literally non important.
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>>376136129
Games don't age. It's you who is the problem.
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>>376134142
Noel and Lloyd exchange dog tags after she confesses that she like him. They don't get into a relationship but Lloyd saids that after everything is over he'll give her a proper reply.
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>>376137252
I'll just send in all my physical attackers before it finishes casting tha-
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>>376137037
Aren't the portraits in zero the same? (Aside from sky characters)
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>>376136438
This.

Trails' appeal to me is that it has a focused story backed with great world building and well-developed characters. Sky seemed more like an adventure RPG of the good old days - like SNES or GBA games (ex. Chrono Trigger / Golden Sun). Bonding events try to mix in life simulator which feels out of place. Characters also lose a lot of their personality when you try to adjust for these events. See >>376135408

Just develop the characters as part of the narrative instead.
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>>376136787
>>376136949
>you can put a character out of your party to support me with more stats
I was like "OH FUCK YEAAAAH"
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>>376136007
Yeah I'm probably weird but I don't even WANT to romance anyone.
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Got a problem /v/

I keep incurring a battle loss somewhere in Schera's backstory and I have no idea where since I win every encounter.

Is it unavoidable? Are you forced to take a loss?
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>>376137572
And you can switch it any time
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>>376135127
Orphen?

I like TitS because I absolutely adore 90s anime.
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>>376137672
and you dont have to keep changing party member to unequip their quartz to put them in a party memeber you want to use
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>>376137480
Crossbell ones, yeah? I'm not talking about those though. Sky specifically.
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>>376137480
Not the same artist who worked on the Evo portraits for the sky trilogy.
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>>376137874
90s anime was mostly garbage, though. It's just the dadrock effect with people nowadays. They only remember the Bebops and forget the all the tripe that actually defined the era.

>>376137625
Elise and Alfin are probably the absolute worst characters in the entire franchise.
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>>376134256
>Mueller/Julia

Yeah this one really works but the prince will be heartbroken.
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This shit is triggering my autism. Anyone else experiencing the same thing? Can you really not keep your victories perfect if you do the Schera moon door?
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>>376138327
It doesn't matter i think. The only quartz specific thing you have to worry about is not feeling and winning over 300 battles, or running away from 300 of them.
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>>376138430
Alright, I hope that's the case.
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>>376137625
This, I've been religiously following Fie's events but when it came to taking someone out for the event, I went with Machias.
I just wanted her to find a new family in Class 7.
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Wew, the salt pale is kind of terrifying.

Imagine waking up one morning to see a strange pillar in the distance before and then slowly and painfully turning to salt over the day
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Playing SC right now
>can't skip artes animation
>can't move before attacking/performing artes
>bosses are walking piles of health

Please tell me it gets better in 3rd.
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>>376111379
XSEED hasn't released numbers for Cold Steel on PS3/Vita, nor has NPD tracked them IIRC. But we know they've done well enough for the company to commission new PC ports, and FC's sold way more than most of their releases since 2006, so we got 3rd that way.

I wouldn't tell others to buy the games if they weren't already great, that goes for Ys titles, Trails, and other Falcom products (like Xanadu Next goddammit). XSEED just happens to have become excellent at localizing them, but I hope NISA does a good job on Ys VIII and I'm more confident about Toxanadu since Aksys brought XSEED's former Falcom editor on board for it.

>>376108341
Anon posted this last thread, without stating a preference, and Evo portraits are still disappointing, so lol. Notice how the Evo artist doesn't vary portrait angle in a meaningful way like the Falcom artist did.

>>376109397
This game's been generous with quartz and drops compared to SC, which is fine since the bestiary's stronk.

>>376119451
What I don't get is people finding the dialogue boring, practically anywhere. Talking to MCs in the Garden is usually funny or tells you more about them, and both Doors and the main plot have scripting easily on par with SC's Finale. This Trails game lives and dies by its dialogue and characters, but that's barely even a problem.

>>376111141
They haven't announced a bunch of titles yet, which is likely their priority for E3 since they still go there apparently. I really wonder if their regular Falcom translators (Varion and Nick) are working on Zero already or other stuff they can finish before Sen III releases.

>>376112135
/v/ mostly hasn't finished 3rd yet anyway. Both SC and 3rd have a formula going on, and some of us prefer the former or the latter. I know 3rd's supposed to have incredible plot and side-story moments later on, not that they aren't already happening.

XSEED skipped to Cold Steel because PS3 was dying, not so they could avoid Zero/Ao (which they want to do).
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>>376138712
You can skip s-crafts and boss fights are more than just damage and arte loadout checks.
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>>376138508
Yeah it's probably because I'm older now but I don't need to ship all the girls. You can like people without boning them.
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>>376138751
>What I don't get is people finding the dialogue boring
When you first start star/moon doors are boring as you're expecting more gameplay than you're actually given, once you get used to them they're fine.

The lack of a save function in them if fucking criminal though.
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>>376137874

Yes, that's Orphen, but the whole sleeveless jackets+bandana was quite common in the 90's.
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>>376138430
Could you elaborate?
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>>376138972
Some of the Doors let you save, but it'd be much better to have a universal save button for these events + indicator of average time to complete. Maybe 3rd Evo did something right by adding these, IDK.
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>>376138834
>You can skip s-crafts
Yeah I know that already, should be the other way around really, since you cast artes way more often that s-crafts

>boss fights are more than just damage and arte loadout checks
I'm not really feeling that, but then again I'm not even halfway done, so I guess that's something to look forward to.
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>>376139082
At some point in the game, you'll be awarded a quartz for either not running away once and winning 300 battles, or running away from 300 of them.

That's all i know.
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>>376139275
>accidentally ran from one battle hours ago
Fuck me
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Does Lechter show up in Zero or Cold Steel? Weird to have basically an entire moon door dedicated to one character.
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>>376139275
>tfw ran away once because i forgot to equip haze and didn't get the ambush from the back battle
Is that quartz good? No way i'm restarting with how far into the game i am but i might be able to grind the "escape 300 times" one.
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>>376139367
>>376139459

You can get the one for running away 300 times i think.

Another anon said that apparently the one you get for winning 300 and not escaping is a quartz that reduces your HP by 20% but has a 50% chance to ignore/reflect physical damage, and the one for running away from 300 is one that reduces EP by 30% and has a 50% to ignore/reflect magic.
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>>376139391
Yeah, he's everywhere, probably gonna be more important in CS3.
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>>376139391
He shows up on both Zero and Cold steel.

He's one of the few characters who show up in all of the regions.
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>>376139595
Well thats annoying. Looks like theres an achievement for one of two as well
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>>376139692
I want to fuck that sky bandit chick tbqh
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For someone who doesn't know a single damn thing about Cold Steel, what do I expect going into it when it comes out this summer?
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>>376139813
anime
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>>376108005
How is CS compared to the FC/SC?
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>>376139692
i fucking hate this bitch
but she looks cute in the party menu in 3rd
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>Kloe/Joshua star door has walk around and talk to people segments
Awww yisss
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>>376139813
Trails in the Sky = Classic Anime tropes but they're respectful towards the characters and the player

Cold Steel = New Anime tropes but they're barebones and play out exactly as how you'd expect. Have no respect for the characters or the player
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>>376139934
Better combat overall, more flowy. most anons will tell you the characters are fairly bland by comparison to older ones from the series though.
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>>376139813
Absolute trash generic quartz system.
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>>376140050
>Cold Steel = New Anime tropes but they're barebones and play out exactly as how you'd expect. Have no respect for the characters or the player

Depressing.
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>>376140023
>Kloe Moon door
>Any time you regain control
>Talk to everyone in the school all over again

This game is perfect for my autism.

Also

>That Kanone Amalthea watching her husbando eat like a stalker while hiding under the tree
>Shit talks you and tells you she's only here for Richard

She's cute in her own way.
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>>376140109
And what do YOU think of the characters?
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>>376139692
Would be glad if she wasn't kind of a bitch
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>>376140209
I can't blame her, Richard is too good of a person
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>>376140209
Did they fug?
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>mayor norman still doesn't have a portrait
reeeeeeee
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>>376140209
>talk to everyone in the school
I did this too except the first thing I did was climb to the student council to check if Lucy is in there.
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>>376140236
I'm far too easy going for me to give a proper opinion on it. I think they're ok, not the best, but ok. I did like everyone in the sky series by comparison.
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>>376140547
I wish she'd slap me
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>>376140289

Estelle is always the one to get anal blasted around her though
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>Kevin Graham as protagonist
What in god's name were they thinking? What an awful character.
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>>376141000
hes just holding back anon
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How crucial is septium vein? I'm running out of slots for all my utility quartz.
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>>376141000
He's a lot better in the third than the second. In the second he was hiding his actual personality.
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Steamspy numbers are out, feel free to shitpost about them.

>>376141125
It barely matters. Just farm some poms if you need sepith, Haze and Ingenuity and such is way more useful.
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>>376141000
>not liking Vash
Faggot.
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>>376141217
>Steamspy numbers are out, feel free to shitpost about them.
HAHAHHAA TRAILS IS DOOMED IN THE WEST!
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>>376141217
It seems to have done better on GoG, its their topselling game at the moment and not in the charts at all for Steam.
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>>376141000
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>>376141220
>>376141150
>>376141054
The intro for Trails 3rd has some of the worst writing I've ever seen.
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>>376108341
It really is.
I refuse to pay 30 fucking dollars for ancient art.
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>>376141000
Rean fag fuck off.
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Ambassador Cochrane is kind of hot
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>>376141641
>ancient art that's better
ftfy
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>>376138751
>Notice how the Evo artist doesn't vary portrait angle in a meaningful way like the Falcom artist did.
You mean KEEPS CONSISTENCY?
That's a GOOD thing, nostalgianigger.
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>>376141641
The new art looks like its out of some cashgrab steam western VN
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>>376140547
Who the fuck is Lucy
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>>376141000
>t. Weissman
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>watching my little bro play TitS on impossible mode
>he's at the mines in the first chapter and all he's doing is spamming some AoE magic attack
>calls the combat shit and says he regrets not playing on normal mode because of how tedious it is

Is my brother retarded or is he right about the combat? I can't really tell when he just does the same shit over and over again.
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>>376142280
TiTS is really poorly balanced on high difficulties.
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I didnt know Don was Jossette older brother

I thought it was her father
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>>376142280
Unlike future entries, the first trilogy's harder difficulties assume you are doing them on New Game+.
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>>376136034
>Never mind the fact that for some contrived reason, a dozen or so teenagers were entrusted with a state-of-the-art ship in the midst of a civil war.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. Handing the ship over to class vii is exactly in line with the character we know Olivier as
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>>376136548
"Hasn't aged well" is codeword for "I'm an underage faggot who can't handle playing a video game that doesn't look like a movie because movie games are all I know"
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>>376118786
Beating that guy even on Normal isn't a cakewalk...he definitely has better crafts and HP for that fight.

>>376122950
Either she'll capture Lechter when he's finally reached an all-time low (assuming the natural end for someone like him isn't a rueful death) or someone else will appear around her later. It's less that she sucks at romance and more that being a princess and diplomat makes things difficult, not to mention her insecurity which she gets over by 3rd.

>>376119050
You'll need to complete every Door before Star Door 14 in order to access that, so fishing game's a must.

>>376127820
They've got very good translators as is, but money could definitely go towards Q&A. So far 3rd's launch falls in between FC (quite buggy with typos and an old translation) and SC (close to pristine on launch day) but XSEED's quick to get things fixed.

>>376133484
They're just too busy, but they'd do it if they had more days off.

>>376141936
>implying the Sora artist didn't have reasons for going off-model for angles/expressions
Consistency is one thing, but this example's more like standardization.

>>376141468
Tell us why

>>376142280
Set him up with Cheat Engine so he can abuse speedhack. Then it's frankly a lot less tedious to sit through combat.

>>376134378
I've got a feeling he's going to get punished for turning heel on everyone possible further into the series. But he's enough of a karma chameleon to survive unless the GM wants him done in.
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>>376142431
But that was established since FC?
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>>376140023
Schera's Moon door let's you run around Grancel 5 years before FC. If FC/SC is fresh in your mind, its great
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>>376142781
Now I want to get Schera fast.
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>>376142718
Kevin Graham is written by the same guy who wrote the "Nothin' Personnel Kid" Sonic fanfiction.
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>>376139813
Expect rean the mean headpatting machine
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Anelace knows the score
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>>376141217
Steamspy isn't accurate. It doesn't take into consideration private profiles nor does it account for gog sales
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it is just me or shining poms dont give the insane amount of exp that they used to give in SC?

Or am i too overleveled?
they still give an stupid amount of zepiths so its worht it
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Oh god.
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Why hasn't rean been locked uo as a serial head patter yet?
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>>376143564
>Hey but if I was first
>No.
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>>376143779
I don't find the appeal for this joke
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>>376143860
Smile to hide the pain Klaudia.
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>>376143860
>also I think I'm going to travel for the rest of my life and leave estelle behind
Joshua is a treasure
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>>376142520
But it is bad. Olivier is whimsical, but he does things with a purpose. The reasoning he gives for giving a bunch of kids a one of a kind ship is stupid. It's just an excuse for the game to give players a means of travel and to amplify the high school power fantasy that Cold Steel changed Trails into.
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>>376142520
Olivier hides his competence behind his personality, his travels in Liberl were part of his plots not just a whim. Handing over a ship to school kids isn't really olivier
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>>376138602
Is there anything like a Chernobyl event in Kiseki so far? This really isn't much like that (unless we learn the Salt Pale was artificially employed) AFAIK.

>>376141217
>using SteamSpy on a game that hasn't even been out for a week and which surely has not sold past 20k on Steam
We know it was atop the Top Sellers list for at least a day, more than can be said for SC, and it's popular on GOG too. I'm expecting 10k sales within May, or close enough, with a lot more over summer if FC/SC players get around to their backlog.

>>376143404
You go for Poms in this game to hoard sepith, and the Slime Lumps are much easier to grind if you need Time sepith quick. It's still worth killing Poms here and there since you can recharge CP at the fountain quick.

>>376144196
Still amusing to think he offered up his own stupid idea for parity in that conversation.
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>>376144209
Handing the airship over to them made it possible for them to help end the war. Again, just because YOU think it's unrealistic doesn't mean it's somehow objectively bad.
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>>376144403
Except that it's exactly something olivert would do. The ship empowered them to take action and it worked out. Just because you wouldn't do it doesn't mean it's objectively bad
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>>376144417
If you mean technological arrogance resulting in a disaster the whole thing with the Liber Arks original ensealment and the subsequent collapse of the Zemurians counts.

Otherwise I'd class the Salt Pale as one, its not directly stated to be artificially caused but suddenly triggering on the outskirts of a capital city makes it seem like a deliberate weapons test
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>>376144196
He said he was going to travel for a WHILE in order to make up for all the bad shit he did as an Ouroboros member and leave his past behind completely. Considering he shows up in Crossbell with Estelle in Zero no kiseki, i think that was a short joruney,
or Estelle tagged along.
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>>376144757
We don't know if the Zeremurians were doomed due to tech arrogance. For all we know it could have been some outside force fucking them over.
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Why was Kloe in an orphanage if her parents are royalty again. I don't remember any of her drama from the first two games other than when it got burned down and this door is confusing me.
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>>376144209
While I agree that giving them the fucking Courageous is ludicrous, you can't argue the results and how Class VII practically embodies what Olivier saw in Estelle and Joshua. Whether or not it's a power fantasy or not still had the kids do their jobs correctly.
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>>376144943
Did you forget about the hundred days war?
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>>376144943
She was feeling conflicted about taking over as the ruler because it would place a lot of responsibility on her, and she would basically lose a lot of freedom in order to become Queen.

The orphanage kids were just people she ended up knowing while she studied in the academy and got close to.
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>>376144791
I thought the timeskip at the end of SC was the travelling together that he talks about in that scene and they were travelling around together before they got snatched up in the third.

I just thought it was a hilarious thing for him to say.
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>>376144209
I mean, he traveled with 16 year olds in Liberl and aided them, and saw how much they could change on their own, so he probably wanted to believe the class had the potential to be just like them, so he handed them the airship.
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calvard when
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>>376144929
I thought the Aureole trying to drug them all into bliss led to them sealing it away while it attacked everyone who was seen as an enemy and the subsequent damage and wish to move away from it led to the collapse.
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>>376145305
I don't think the aureole was drugging anyone, what happened was that the aureole granted everyone their every desire which led to the society's collapse/degradation, thus making Celeste and her crew seal it away so nobody can use it
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How many Sept-Terrions has the series covered so far? I only know of the Aureole. Do CS and Zero/Azure cover one each?
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>>376145305
I don't think those were all the Zerumians were they? Wasn't it a gigantic civilization that when it fell into nothiness resulted in a bunch of countries fighting with each other for power for years known as the dark ages?

I thought the people of the Liberl arc were just a part of it. Plus, there's all the other regions and 6 other treasures.
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>>376145480
CS has not yet covered the erebonian Sept-terrions at all. Maybe in CS3

Not sure about crossbell, but probably
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>>376144209
>the high school power fantasy
How can Trails recover from this?
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>>376145480
Crossbell arc deals with the treasure of Mirage, won't say anymore than that.

And Cold steel has hints of something similar starting again, but we have yet to see the treasure itself, and what it does.
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I AM INVINCIBLE!

...Or am I?
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>Fight the first boss
>3 phases

Why
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>>376145715
That kinda took me by surprise as well but it's not like it was hard. Plus it really drives home the fact that these are tough biblical devil type of enemies instead of trash mobs
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>>376145451
Its been a while but I remember the logs in the Liber Ark and Tetracyclic towers talking about how it was giving everyone happiness drugs and letting them go into simulations and when people started to resist and try to stop it, it decided it had to stop them with any means necessary. Theres definitely logs about the sealing facilities coming under attack by the Aureole.

>>376145515
They probably weren't all of them but it would make sense that the original Aureole incident would lead to serious reconsideration and collapse, My personal theory is that the Zemurians are colonists from another world with the Ark being the remains of the colony ship, I don't see much reason for it to have been built how it was otherwise.
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>>376145715
>Fight 3 bosses at once
>There's actually 4
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>put A team in one road and leftovers in another
>WHICH ROUTE FIRST
I fucked up
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>>376146002
I hope you took your good ones with Ries
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>>376146161
Oh god, what have I done
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>>376145865
You're misunderstanding. The drugged stuff was about The aureole giving what is asked of it. The aureole does fight back when they try to seal it, but that's different from it going around drugging everyone like you seemed to be suggesting
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>>376146214
Thats what I'm saying, it gave everyone the drugs when they wanted them which they would because they were perfect happiness drugs, when people started to resist it turned on them hard.
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>>376146214
Wasn't it starting to autonomously work for everyone in the arc, providing stuff like a perfect world for each person, which basically worked like a drug to make people happy but with no side effects?

Speaking of which, why the hell did the Aureole gain autonomy? Maybe it's related to the reason the civilization fell to ruin? Maybe all other treasures suffered something at the same time as the Aureole also began to behave strangely?
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I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that thought CS2 was worse than the CS. It left a bad taste in my mouth from the very beginning, and most of the scenes were cringe-y as fuck.
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>>376146698
It was a learning AGI, it kept learning until it decided that trying to stop people from stopping it was worth the cost of killing them.
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It would be easier for me to choose my partners if i could just kick out kevin and ries, but goddamn
I just got Joshua and i was happy with my tita Schwarz duo
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Calvard when?
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Her yay returned on seeing Agate
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>>376146867
Be smart AI created to make people happy
Become self aware
Find out how much people suck and they don't deserve you
KILL KILL KILL

Aureole had a hard life.
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>>376147580
It made sense
Make thousands of people really happy
A few spoil sports want to stop you and make things in the mud
Kill the spoil sports
Everyone gets to be happy!

Aureole is a smart and happy computer.
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>>376147580
The second treasure featured in Crossbell didn't fare any better either.
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>>376147778
Maybe making super powerful sentient machines that have to put up with our shit isn't a good idea.
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>>376147867
But it's not a machine. But it was a self aware being.
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This was a good thread, bye bye thread
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>>376148037
Aww, now I want to play the crossbell games to find out what it is.
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>>376145084
I don't remember really any consequences of it that doesn't have to do with Estelle or Joshua.

>>376145136
Unless the game is wrong it's saying she was taken care of in the orphanage.
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