Well fuck this boss

>>376105390
leave demon from below alive

>>376105390
>Fake difficulty: the boss
Literally.

>>376105390
>summonfaggot

good job. one of the reason bosses have such retarded amounts of hp in this dlc is to deter you cancerous fags from 5 manning every boss. their hp gets so high that you will eventually die one by one, because you are incompetent players who will slowly get outlasted and rekt

feels very good, man

>>376105462
What changes?

>>376105498
>good job. one of the reason bosses have such retarded amounts of hp in this dlc is to deter you cancerous fags from 5 manning every boss
That's an image straight out of google.

>dude we forgot to give the boss a panic move for when the player is to close so you can just stand in his nuts and mash R1 lmao

>>376105505
The last phase is easier. His attacks aren't so bullshitty

>>376105505
If you kill demon from below second, the demon prince that follows will use laser beams and more melee attacks.

If you let the other one stay alive, he'll fly away more often and use pyromancies. There's alot more shit you have to deal with when he's a pyromaniac.

>>376105390
why the fuck would you summon for that boss(s)? As >>376105498 said, their HP is so high to deter you from summon-scumming. Learn to dodge. Learn to read their movements. For fuck's sake, get a good medium shield and hide behind it if you have to. I killed Demon Twins on my 2nd try.

only one of them will enrage at any time. The other one turns into a pussy incapable of more than a feeble swipe. Focus fire that motherfucker until it enrages, then switch targets

So stop being a bitch OP and get in there.

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>>376105582
>lightly tap demon head
>OH SHIT IM STAGGERED PLEASE CRIT ME

>>376105546
>>376105662
ignore the summon part then. Didn't see this post.
>>376105643
I didn't even know that. I killed whichever one I could down first. I got the pyro prince both times. Just thought that was standard and there was no other option.

>>376105758
I didn't realize either the first time.

It was insanely difficult until the last try and I just thought it was me being good.

Demon from below just lets you attack that ass alot more often.

>>376105390
They are not really that hard to dodge since they are slow as shit and have a very telegraphed moveset. The problem is that they have so goddamn much HP

Use any black knight weapon, it does a tonne of damage. If you are a faggot you could always summon Gael and let him take care of them

>>376105749
funny how a toon human sized can stab a giant demon to stagger him for some seconds, meanwhile if the giant literally flattens the toon he just shrugs it off and rolls away in less than half a second

DS lost a lot of its atmosphere and theme when they started balancing it around "gamey" mechanics
Asylum demon will forever be the most iconic fight of the series

>>376105981
>asylum demon is the pinnacle of design

No wonder DS1 fags are so toxic.

>>376106028
>most iconic fight of the series
If you didn't like that fight then you don't like these games either and probably joined at DS2 release, the Asylum demon is all the series combat is about

>>376105981
you may be memeing but gameplay wise yes, the plunging attack opener is perfectly introduced and rewarded while the fight itself has weight to it, get hit equals flying through the air and being on the ground for 2 seconds

>>376105498
>>376105643
>It gets more difficult the more players you have in a non-linear and disadvantageous manner
>It's easier solo
>telling the people playing the harder mode they're worse and you're better
Wew lad.

I liked how the Taurus and asylum demons had attacks that if they hit your shield and didn't take all your stamina, you like backflipped and flew backwards. Made me grin when I first fought Taurus Demon because it "grounded" me. I wasn't this unstoppable killing machine.

>>376106404
It's not really easier since you have two bosses on your ass at all times while you can split them up in coop.

>>376105981
>toon

stop this shit

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>>376105498
They have retarded amounts of health without summoning, I never want to fight Midir or Gael ever again seeing as how it take 20+ minutes per attempt.

>>376106470
It's way fucking easier, just like Dancer.

>>376105643
>that meteor attack that fucks you utterly up

>>376105498
>having fun with friends is wrong and punished
at least fromsoft knows it's fanbase

>>376106118
That's some next level delusion right there.

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I liked the bosses but it REEKED of DS2 design team the amount they encouraged people to summon for bosses and areas.

The giant gnome was the only boss that felt like it was designed around solo-fighting.
Midir would've been better if he didn't have a stupid fucking retard amount of HP.

>>376106118
>hug left foot and strafe to the side
>all the combat Souls has to offer

the memes never end

>>376106894
TRC encouraged summoning? By making the bosses have 10x the health and more unpredictable AI, right?

>>376106894
Reminder that bloodborne dlc didn't have these co-op shit meme bosses except maybe the 2 giant fish in the well
Which could be solo'd with a consumable item easily, but still

>>376107027
Bloodborne was a labor of love and something new Miyazaki could work on.

DS3 was Miyazaki wanting desperately to kill the series and never work on another Souls-esque game again but also wanting to not severely disappoint the fans after DS2.

>>376106894

You didn't play ds2 if you think demon prince was a bullshit fight,

They made it so that you only had to fight one at a time, with the other one acting as an environmental hazard. When they both turn red, you just run away.

>>376107027
>>376107102
>bullshit fights
>code for too hard

Get out of here with your easy 10 day game.

>>376106894
Midir always seems to charge across the room at the guy that's not fighting him and summoning anymore than 1 phantom boosts his damage into 1-shot realms

Even without the ridiculous hp scaling I think he was designed more with solo play in mind

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>>376107027
>needing to summon just for well whales
>needing the shaman daggers

>>376107173
>10day BB spamposter is ds2babby
Who would've guessed?

>>376107190
No, he was designed for multiple players but their shitty balancing and healthsponge design made it extremely hard to do without multiple players.

>>376107173
Literally nothing to do with what's being said at all.

Stop hating DaS3 and git fucking gud.

>finally decide to sit down and play the new Dark Souls 3 DLCs
>Snow Painting land is literally 1 hours long with 1 boss fight

what the fuck

>>376105498
Lapp and Gael can duo them. Train one demon onto them and solo the other yourself if you want the easiest fight ever.

>>376105390
>rehash shit 3
You can only blame yourself.

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>>376107460
>my face demons are just ornstein and smough minus the great ost and design

>>376107304
Designed for multiple players yet he just flips his shit when there's 2 or more people and becomes completely unpredictable. It's ok if you didn't like the game but stop lying.

>>376107437
It's 1 hour if you run past everything while being overleveled. It wasn't long but it's not 1 hour. Also 2 bosses.

>>376107483
>every duo boss is O&S
And people say DS2 fags are delusional

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>>376105390
>that attack where he creates a giant lava sun above the arena
>my GPU's face when

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>>376105390
bruh those dudes suck just grab lapp and beat they ass lil pussy

>>376107539
Stomping some random nigga into the ground only to fight his wolf you already fought out in the wild before is not a boss fight

>>376107539
No, not every duo boss but demons clearly are considering they share mechanics, as in if you kill one over the other it entirely changes how the second fight goes.

>>376105498
>stop having fun with your friends

play the game the way i want or else you dont enjoy video games

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>>376105390
>Nigga crying about 2(3)demon

You are like little baby.

>>376107645
It's a cakewalk if you're properly leveled for this DLC, I agree but I also have to say it's pretty challenging if you're low level. At least it was when I was using crow's quills at like level 30 or 40.

>>376107792
Why do people cry about Midir? I just summoned and he dropped in like a minute from intense ass poking.

>>376107879
because everyone wants to solo every boss and then make fun of people who didnt

>>376105390
Why the fuck did they change the boss?
In the early version one of them only appeared much later, making the boss fight actually not bullshit.

>>376107956
Now it starts with two, after both die you fight the demon prince.

>>376107627
>summon Lapp
>he gets stuck in the wall

>>376107956
One of them stays back and shoots easily dodged gas or delayed flames. They alternate throughout the fight. Occasionally they both enrage and charge you. Second phase you have the choice of fighting a pyro focused demon or a melee based one.

>>376107923
Everyone will have moved on to other games by the time OP finishes midir then.

>>376105390
>Onyx blade
>great soul dregs
>and a fucking great heal

This is why you're loosing.

Here is how you win 100%

>go to rosaria
>respec
>put at least 35 in strength
>infuse a +0 exile greatsword with a heavy gem
>up it to +10

There you go, this is easy mode, for every boss and every enemy in the game. Not even the darksword is as easy as that.

>summons
>still has problems

Eat shit.

Is people seriously having trouble with that easy-ass boss? Just rape the one active, dodge the shit from the inactive one and when they're both active just dodge.

I swear to fucking god.

And kil the lesser demon last so P2 is easier with the lasers.


Not even joking or trying to sound sarcasting, how comes people have so much trouble with it?

>>376108463
My first playthrough I didn't realize that if I kill the other one there won't be a meteor shower left and right in the second phase.

>>376108367
but exile greatsword is dogshit. Just use Great Machete or Great Axe

>>376108508
you can stagger him when he's charging up the meteors

>>376105390
Just sidestep/sideroll
that's it

>>376108545
>faster moveset
>more damage

The only advantage a GM or a GA has, is that it staggers enemies, which is unnecessary anyways since you can stagger every boss just as easy with the exile.
I dare you to point out a faster strength weapon with higher damage output.

I found the laser to be harder than the meteor in the second phase

>>376105390
beat him as str build with an ultra and dex build with sellswords, both were fine

it's only magic builds that suffer

>>376108681
my dick

>>376105390
You think that's hard wait till you meet motherfucker Midir.

I bled him to death with Grave Warden bleed infused

>summoning

Literally makes TRC boss harder

>>376108463

Throne Defender and Watcher was way gayer

the people complaining are nu-420praiseit fags

>>376108707
magic isnt hard if you fight the meteor boss

>>376105498
The better question is why the FUCK didn't they do this with all the bosses.

>>376108632
Yes but usually I get free damage that way from the fire orbs he casts before flying away to charge up.

>>376109000

the bosses hp is fine as is, any more and it would be too tedious, any less it would be about the same as it is now but at least the fights don't overstay their welcome

have you ever played Furi? the fifth boss (the knight if remember right) is a perfect example of too much health resulting in a boring playbythebooks pattern to whittle that blacked.com life bar to climax

>>376106626
>20+ minutes
>Gael

The fuck? I killed him in like 5 minutes using a broadsword.

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>>376105390
>Didn't solo Friede
>Didn't solo lmao2bats
>Didn't solo Midir
>Didn't solo Gael

Eventually I went back and solo'd Gael, but goddam, I just can't into the DLC bosses.

It's mostly that I'm SL70, but I also just can't be motivated to bother soloing them anymore. Especially damage sinks like Midir.

>>376107879
Why lie? Midir only takes any damage from the head. Hitting any other area deals about 50 damage and Midir has almost 16,000HP even without summmoning.

It would have taken FOREVER to beat him from behind.

>>376108889
I've been replaying ds2 and just gave up from trying to finish gang bang dog fight from ivory king dlc and I thought I only had Nashandra left. Fucking gank squad bosses

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>>376109364
>Fine as is

>You can summon and gangbang every fucking boss in the main game

>fight friede for the first time
>well that was too easy
>oh phase 2
>her father takes insane amounts of damage
>well that was easy
>phase 3
>get fucked

rip me

>>376105390
My favorite multi-boss fight where you actually have to git gud.

The only boss I couldn't solo were Champion Gundyr and Nameless King.
Midir becomes not-so-difficult once you figure out that he uses the same attacks as long as you stay close to his head. Then you just need a greatsword-class weapon and the Dragoncrest shield for his nigh-undodgable fire attacks.

Gael took a bit more perseverance but a greatsword and blocking evertually got the best of him.

>>376105390
>shity split damage sword
>hexes
>phantom
well here is your problem. Either go full dex or str or suck a dick. Miyazaki doesnt like people having fun

>>376109948
Once I learned that I have to fight the boss three fucking times I just summoned Gael and stopped giving any shit.

It should have just been Friede and her 3rd phase immediately after.

>>376105481
Dead on. This shit wasn't even fun or challenging, just tedious. Both of these dlcs were a fucking rip off.

>>376109701
You willingly went to go fight 2cat again? For what purpose?

>>376110093
>nigh-undodgable fire attacks.
you can easily run away from all of those attacks

>>376110102
You analysed the image enough to be able to point out all of those things, but not enough to notice the grainy and blurry quality inherent to screenshots of Youtube videos pulled from Google? Nice.

>>376110194
I thought i got good in the meantime

>>376109948
Third phase was my fucking bane.
>Phase 1: low health and easy staggers
>Phase 2: low health
>Phase 3: dude attack spam lmao

>>376110210
Yeah, you're right.
I meant to say that you can't stick close and get away from those, but you need to stick close to remain in control of the dragon.

>>376110093
I honestly don't understand why people have so much problem with Nameless King.
1st phase is piss easy. Even though in 2nd phase he will kill you in 2 hits, he isn't hyper aggressive like Champ Gundyr (so you can easily heal back), doesn't have 10 hit combos and all of his attack are easily dodgeable (lightning spells can be blocked/dodged as well).

If Champion Gundyr wasn't parryable, he would definitely be the hardest boss in the game.

>>376105981
What the fuck are you talking about? Taurus demon is probably what most people remember when they think about ds. He was the bouncer basically.

>>376105390

More like fuck this ps2 textures. Fucking disgusting.

>>376106709
When he is charging the meteor attack, just run to the boss and you can easily stagger him. The meteors will then just fall down instead of aiming at you.

>>376107173
Are you genuinely trying to imply ds2 is harder than bloodborne?

>>376110194
i did it every time i replayed ds2
the horses only spawn if you're out in the open during the blizzard, so you can get to the bossfight by only fighting two of them
you can also summon the npcs to distract the horses and then desummon them when you're near the fog

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>>376105498
>having no friends

>>376108681
Ok you know what. I just tried it out and while it does a little bit less dmg per swing it costs less stamina and is faster.

Nigga you right

>>376110427
no I'm saying that ds2 had cheap copy paste bosses hence 'bullshit'. Demon Prince was designed fairly in comparison.

>>376109948
Fact is, they should have done it as 2 bosses.

Friede should have had her 1st and last phase as one boss fight.

Father Ariandel should have been his own fight in a much smaller arena with 3x as much health

>>376108367
What's a good but balanced weapon? I don't wanna go easy mode but I don't want to do some meme contrarian tryhard shit, I just finished bloodborne and I need more fromgames so I bought ds3.

Burial blade was my favorite weapon in that game, anything with a similar move set?

Seriously you people have problem with demon prince ? He's piss easy in comparaison with the rest of the dlc

>>376110541
I read your post wrong, my mistake anon.

>>376110306
>>376110439
I ask from the "boss is fun to fight" perspective.

2cat is easily the worst boss fight in the entire series besides Pinwheel, who feels more like a joke boss to be honest.

>>376110623
the only boss in TRC that is easier is Halflight

>>376110678
Pinwheel is easy only because you do him after Lordvessel. Remember that you can fight him immediately after landing in Firelink for the first time.

>>376110694
That boss was such a bad idea with DaS3's netcode the way it is.

You can kill the boss in 4 seconds if the game decides to favour your connection over their's

>>376110586
All the Scythes in Ds3 are shit barring Friede's, and you cant get that one early unless you're suicidal.

Getting Friede's scythe early would be like trying to get the Church Pick in BB early. Sure you can do it, but in BB's case you have to go through Ludwig at low level to get it.

>>376110694
>Halflight
Depend who you fight since it's pvp, i was lucky and guy was bad

>>376110821
>>376110816
I mean the normal, offline version of the boss.
This boss is clearly inspired by Old Monk anyway.

>>376110817
Ah shit, what about the zwei? Is it any good in this game? I hated it in 2

Sorry I'd load up and just try but I have abother 40 mins on my download.

>>376110871
>This boss is clearly inspired by Old Monk anyway.

more like they ran out of idea it's the same fight but they aded a painted gardian

>>376110678
Well no it's a boring bossfight all the more so if you don't kill it in one go, which is the reason I gave up in the first place. I'm not about to put in the effort going through that zone again to fight a boss I don't want to fight

>>376110931
Yeah, the painting guardian literally makes no sense.

>>376110518
Seeee I told you.

I actually used the machete for a big portion of the game, but then I saw a speedrunner using the exile and saying it's the most broken sword in the game and since, I use the exile if I can't get a boss with my farron greatsword

>>376110586
Well you could obviously go for a great scythe dex build, since you get the scythe after the second boss. If you really wanna imitate the burial blade tho, you'll have to get friedes great scythe, which you can't get until the decons, which is like the first quater of the game.

I personally would go with this order:

>Knight class starting sword
>Irythill sword
>great scythe OR great corvian scythe if you get it as a drop or want to farm for it
>farm the shit out of the dude right before pontiff for the pontiff great scythe and
>go for friede if you're confident with the weapon

>>376110931
Either they ran out of ideas or they know they're never gonna bring DeS to PS4 or pc so they're just giving people the new playerbase a chance to see a similar boss.

It's hard to say with from, they put a lot of effort in in some aspects and are fucking lazy in others

>>376109418
>SL70
>Fighting any of the DLC bosses at a soul level you reach the grand archive with
Oh shit nigger what are you doing

>>376111012
Gonna follow that. Thanks anon.

>>376110678
>2cat is easily the worst boss fight in the entire series
I'm sorry? I thought it was 4shits?..

>>376105662
>Use a shield
>Call other people bitches
Are you retarded by any chance?

>>376111285
4 Kings is a cool boss actually.

>Whips in the Souls series will NEVER have the damage output and moveset of the Threaded Cane

For what purrpose? Bosses like the Demons, Midir, King of the Storm and Greatwood all look like they were designed with the Threaded Cane in mind.

It's fucking ridiculous that Whips are all so useless in DaS3 when the last "soulsborne" game had the best whip in existence.

>>376111427
There is literally nothing wrong in using shields.

Why does every boss in DS3 have multiple phases? Don't get me wrong, it's good to have fights where the boss gets buffed half way through, but why does literally EVERY boss in DS3 do this? I miss bosses being just one consistent fight with no tweests mid battle.

>>376111743
nah it's extremely lazy, and has shitty uninspired design (music sucks too). Nothing good about it unfortunately.

>>376111743
>damage check: the boss

When the most effective strategy is to put on Havel's gear and tank the bosses without really trying to dodge, you know the boss isn't "cool"

>>376111743
it's actually worse than BoC, not even joking.

>>376111743
t. idiot

>be mage
>thought I could get away with bleeding them to death with gnawing
>pretty much run out of fp and ashen estus halfway through the second phase
>trying to figure out which spells to use to save fp while dealing damage most efficiently
>fucking pestilent mercury
yeah ok game

>>376105498
Summoning just one dude in Dark Souls 3 already doubles the demon prince boss' defense stat. The second phase is horrible, not because of difficulty but because of tedium.

>>376111957
I think the reason 2cat is worse is because it happens 90 minutes after you do 1cat.

I wouldn't have minded if they just had 2cat instead of 1cat, but the fact that they couldn't think of ANYTHING other than the first boss you fight in that DLC except now there's two of them is awful.

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>>376107879
Actually, it would take around three minutes of non-stop poking and good stamina management, given that you hit its butt twice every second and also allowing yourself to take a second or two for stamina regen.

>>376111894
Because fucking bloodborne that's why.

B team strikes again

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>not a single bonfire from the second one till Silver Knight invasion
>lost 100k
Jesus Christ

>>376112021
Havel trivializes every boss in the game though

>>376112383
Should've turned right instead of left, faggot. The bonfire is just a few steps away from the bottom of the large staircase.

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>>376112445
>my face when

>>376111894
Genuinely feel it has to do with bloodborne, most of the bosses in that game are more reactionary and insanely aggressive, but also very instinctual and straightforward.

I feel like ds3 tried to change that with some of the bosses having more gimmicky approaches in their phases l while still being way more aggressive than the past 2 DS games.

Basically having to up the ante. I think it paid off on some bosses and was a big miss on others. Bosses like the mage, wolnir, demon prince are where it's done badly.

Demon prince is genuinely one of the most tedious fights I think I've ever fought in a souls game, I want to say witches of hemwick but at least that shit ends quickly.

>>376111743
unfunny joke m8.

>>376111894
Myiazaki was still in his bloodborne fever during DS3, hence why the multiple phases and a lot of mechanics taken from BB

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>>376105390

>2 of the same thing for literally no reason, looks awkward as fuck and they spend most of the fight with their models clipping through each other. A single hard boss would be more satisfying but instead they keep trying to relive Ornstien and Smough without realizing what made that fight fun and just made a clusterfuck instead
>Most of their attacks are just big sweeping bloodborne claw attacks that are easy as piss to dodge but send them all over the arena so you spend most of your time chasing after them just to land one hit
>Non-stop autistic screeching
>A billion hp so it takes forever and then a second form that changes nothing and maybe even gets easier
>Boring, generic design, literally called 'demon prince', lore shit that means literally nothing

Probably one of the worst souls bosses.

>>376111894
Like everyone else said, bloodborne. I actually kinda like this change, especially when the music changes too. Maybe not so much the health-bar refilling kind of thing, though.

>>376105390
LMFAO AT ALL THE SCRUBBY RETARDS ITT

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>>376106894
No you're just a scrub who sucks at games. Midir's moveset is easy as fuck and highly telegraphed. Charge him mat the beginning, roll through the fireball and under him, then from this point on you just chase him constantly and stay under his belly, attacking his legs. You don't go to close to his crotch to keep him from doing his spin swipe. if he rears up to breathe fire, you run halfway up his tail and get easy hits, then you wait 2 seconds and roll when he spin swipes and get a running R1 on his head before repeating. If he flies in the air he will breathe a trail of fire which can easily be dodged simply by running to the left, no rolling required unless you wanna play it safe. if you see him putting weight onto his hindlegs hes about to charge you really fast, so you learn the timing, or take the hit and heal. his lazer fires straight ahead so you dodge, and his horizontal beam doesn't go very far and rarely actually hits you unless you panis roll into it, so just roll backwards. if he breathes fire and charges forward, simply get out of the way. all of his most devestating attacks can be avoided simply by staying as close to him as possible under his belly attacking the legs patiently. second phase you just have to watch out for his aoe which is telegraphed by always being in a good position with enough stamina to run away, and the humanity sprite things are easy just run under him and abuse the infinite rolls you have. there thats how you solo midir in a single post. while he is weak to lightning if you dont have faith or buffs just use a farron or wolfknight sword which he is also weak too

>>376114535
It's better to stay in front him instead of under, so you don't have to fight woth camera. It also maipulates him to use predictable attacks.
His dark sorceries during 2nd phase are a bitch though.

>>376108839
Midir is the only boss I haven't beaten, and I have no desire to go back and finish him. His health pool is fucking ridiculously big and most of his attacks one shot me.

Gael and Demon princes I found fun and fair to fight, Midir is the complete opposite.

>>376115115
fighting with the camera isn't that hard if you're patient enough not to have to attack every 2 seconds. i just wait for him to calm down, get a hit in, and repeat, but of course, it will take a lot longer. i disagree on the head tho, his attacks are much more predictable under his belly. almost every time he will just breathe fire underneath him, or fly up for his fire breathe across the arena which doesn't even have to be rolled through. The spin sweep usually only happens when you get to close to the tail, but counting 1,2 roll works 100% of the time, especially with bloodring. id rather go for this less risky route, but then again if you want a quicker kill head is the way to go provided you have perfect timing the whole way

>>376115316
>what is 40 vig/rosp+3/artorias sword

Dead in <10 minutes.

How would you change the fundamentals of Dark Souls regarding avoiding damage?

Right now the minmax is as fast rolling as possible abusing I-frames with a 100% physical shield. What could be done to change this?

Introduce higher speed and mobility to avoid attacks rather than roll through everything?

>>376105643
??????
the explosion version is much easier for me than the laser one

>>376115316
I feel Midir is balanced by the fact that he's incredibly slow and telegraphs his attacks well. Doesn't get any faster or stronger in the second phase and only gets like 2 new attacks. It's really just a consistency check.

If you're the type of player who only tries to fight instinctively, uses up most estus charges against some bosses and only beats them by the skin of your teeth then Midir will be troublesome but if you're the type who studies boss patterns then it will be one of the easier bosses in the game.

>>376116437
>higher speed and mobility to avoid attacks

When you say this do you mean as in like out ranging the swing range or do you mean some sort of actual mechanic?

I've wondered this too and I think the answer is a lot harder than people think, at least as far as engaging gameplay goes

>>376117140
Yes, out ranging and shit like using form of block or parry early during a boss swing before it gets lethal momentum and such. I do agree that i-frame rolling is very visceral and exciting though, it looks cool avoiding damage by rolling through it even if it doesn't make much sense.

Think like, Ninja Gaiden but that would also tear from the semi-grounded realism where you can't do fancy high speed stuff beyond certain weapon attacks. I wonder how mount&blade momentum system would work for Dark Souls?

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>>376107956
The first phase is easy, just juggle them. Focus on the melee one, dodge the ranged one's attacks, continue doing so when they swap. Could go for some extra hits when they transform.

>>376110427
Are you implying Das2 isn't harder than bloodborne?

>>376112848
Demon Princes are Ornstein and Smough done right.

>>376109460
He takes roughly double damage to the head, so hitting him anywhere else could pay off as long as you can hit him twice as often.

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>>376112848
But every boss since Bloodborne onward is an autistically screeching attackspamming doggo that flails his arms all over the floor and does the dinosaur.
I'd have thought you guys got used to this amazing new vision in enemydesign by Myazaky-kun™ and his funkybunch.

>>376116991
I think he just doesn't really feel right in Dark Souls. Long fights of endurance worked really well in Bloodborne because you could combo much longer and the game rewarded aggression. So the health pools were inflated, but you were actually doing shit the whole time. Midir is just bopping him in the face a couple times every once in a while as he perpetually runs away from you. The fight is like 95% downtime chasing him. It's not hard, it's just really boring and it's a shame a cool design was wasted on a lame fight.

>>376105390
???
I only summoned Gael for boss fights and had zero problems, even dealt with Demon Prince.

>>376118621
But Half the bosses from ds3 are slow as fuck compared to anything in bloodborne, besides dancer and pontiff though, pedo anon. What are you saying?

>>376107879
I literally spammed arrows at him and cheezed his ass

>>376119198
I love how Bloodborne has like barley a second faster rolling, and the enemies all have 19 it combos and people say dark souls is slow in comparison.
I love bloodborne by the way but it's barely faster

>>376105390
It's a no-brainer, but focus on killing 1 demon as soon as possible. You can also stagger them and do a critical hit if you are consistent with damage output.

>>376115316
See I never had a problem with Midir. I've fought him 3 times now on totally separate builds and whilst he's taken a few attempts, i've gotten by him painlessly.

For me Friede was by far the biggest stumbling block in the entire series. I can solo every boss in every game from Demon's to Bloodborne to the Dark trilogy without relying on shields, magic or outside help. Friede is the only boss in the entire series to stump me for more than a few hours. 2kat wasn't anywhere near as hard, neither was Midir. Both of them I beat in the first few attempts. Friede (without summoning Gael) took me nearly 3 weeks. She was my fucking kryptonite. Even now on replays I make sure to summon Gael because fuck ever doing that ever again.

>>376119560
It's faster in the sense that you can go into fights and trade with bosses (not arguing difficulty) you can basically bully the fuck out of bosses and not miss a beat, which I feel you can't really do with DS. Yeah you can dodge roll and be good with I frames but you can't go toe to toe with a boss like you can in BB when you get a bosses pattern down enough.

im not sure if I'm conveying my point well enough, sorry I'm not the most eloquent person.

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>>376109418
>SL70

what the fuck are you doing with all the souls you pick up? you should be way over that, brother

>>376119803
Yeah I get what you're saying, I just never found it that much faster but it must be terrible for turtle fags

No, the real bullshit is Darkeater Midir and that one poison Dragon from Dark Souls II. They're piss easy to avoid but fucking impossible to get up and hit when you're a Melee player, and they also have shitloads of health on NG++

>>376120281
It may not be and maybe it's all a mental thing. I haven't replayed 3 since I beat BB, i may be full of shit and bb just feels faster because you can be more reckless with your stamina, but in actuality it's not, who knows.

>>376120265
SL70 is perfect for AoA. For TRC you should be around 90-100

>>376120413
Sinh is piss easy if you stand under him. Midir gives you so much room to hit him on face that it's not even funny, what are you on about?

>>376120652
Is 90-100 bare minimum or are we talking like go in there and mop the place up?

Only curious because I just did demon prince at like 65 and I'm not memeing when I say I felt like I was just hitting him for days. It took me so fucking long to kill him, not because he was hard but because he had so much fucking hp.

>>376120785
Neither, it's just recommended. You can easily fuck them all up with low lvl if you're good. Someone beat midir with different throwing knives on NG+7, my first time against Gael (was NG+) I ran out of healing items last phase so I had like 200 health left but I just knew what to fish for and took down his last phase without being hit once. Honestly I think that Halflight at low level is the biggest challenge here.

>>376120623
I'm playing 3 with a friend right now and you can be almost as reckless with your stamina as you can in BB, it seemed like das 1 and 2 punished you more

>>376120785
You're literally going to go hollow fighting Midir at 65.

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>let's just make a bunch of bullshit enemies that never ever stop attacking
This genre's just inevitably wrapping back over to becoming a standard action game