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Why is this shit so common in vidya.

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Why is this shit so common in vidya.
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>>376098680
It looks cool
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>>376099124

No it doesn't.
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Because japan makes like half of all vidya. If Mexico was one of the hotbeds of vidya development instead, you might see pic related more instead, for example
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Because they signify an ancient warrior culture that was incomparably elite. Not because they were all that good but everyone around them was just so much worse. A knight versus 10 peasants with rondels is fucked. A samurai versues 10 peasants with hoes and rakes is aroused. Of course a samurai could never take on real enemies like a knight could but he had none on his little island except other samurai who he would much rather have sex with.
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If wish Africa would make video games so that we would see those silly dick knives
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>>376099453
Yes it does
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>>376099974
no it really doesn't
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLWzH_1eZsc
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>>376099974

No it's a shitty looking saber.
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>>376098680
Because it's just a sword?
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Because video games are escapist fantasy.
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>>376098680

Being able to easily cut through other materials, even most metals, made it one of the strongest close combat weapons ever created. The combination of exceptionally pure japanese iron and a flawless smithing technique paid off big time.
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>>376099945
You had me until sex

What was that?
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>>376099945

No need for rondels. Just long pointy sticks. The Swiss in particular fucked over knights in the latter 15th century and contributed to their demise as a unit in the battlefield.
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>>376098680

Easily recognizable. Unique style easy to include in a roster of weapons.

99% of your audience won't be able to tell the difference between a longsword and a broadsword, but everyone can tell the difference between a longsword and a gaytana.
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>>376098680
It's the weapon of choice for cuckolds and weebs.
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>>376100058

Just like the greeks. Japanese samurai were openly gay, especially towards their paige. Look up Nobunaga and Ranmaru.
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>>376100057
it was factually utter shit
the metal itself was shit
the smithing technique used was shit (and comparatively outdated with the rest of the world)
it's just a fucking shit weapon
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it looks nice and elegant. too bad weebs ruined it
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>>376100174

>falling for bait
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>>376100058
Samurai were all about fucking eachother in the ass until the late Edo period when they collectively decided not to talk about it.
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they seem like weapons that can cut/slice and can be swung faster than an European sword only judging by physical appearance
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>>376100240
self-sacrifice so the uninformed don't get fooled
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>>376100057
I can't tell if this is intentional or not
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I'm glad that for all the shilling /v/ does for Jap games, everyone else can still agree that Japs are shit tier when it comes to war.
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>>376098680
Because ancient samurai were god tier warriors.
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muricans like it for some reasons. not just video games.
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>>376098680
It looks cool but I fucking all those uchigatana fallen knight set memers in dark souls 3

Fucking edgy weeb i swear
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>>376100278
GRORIOUS RIRROR STEER FORDER ORE ROURAND RIMES RUR ROO ARYRING
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>>376100308

Reminds me of that one anime where big tittied girls sliced up american B-29's about to enter Japan.
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Those retards who crushed into pearl harbor because they couldn't do anything else impressive with their shitty piloting skills like actually fighting for example are called samurais too by the japanese. Being a samurai is all about the art of killing yourself in an impressive way.
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>>376098680
Easy to model and texture, very recognizable. Its the japanese lightsaber mang
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fun fact: when it came to actual combat, the samurai would actually fight using arrows and bits of metal on the end of big sticks (like the rest of the world)
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Because a large portion of games are made in japan where that weapon, no matter how shitty it is in comparison to others from its time, was a large part of history. The real question is why weebs act like its the best thing ever and other fags act like they die a little just from seeing it.
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>>376100410

I think it has more to do with the Zero being a piece of shit fighter plane that if it was pointless to engage the better armed and faster American planes.
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>>376100174
>it was factually utter shit
compared to other countries steel weapons, yes
>the metal itself was shit
shit ore, shit metal
>the smithing technique used was shit (and comparatively outdated with the rest of the world)
No, it was just laborious and got results
>it's just a fucking shit weapon
For everything else in japan at the time, it was not.

That being said, it was rarely used over archery or 槍 spear
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>>376100523
Because anime and contrarianism I bet.
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>>376100468

Nobody gives a shit about facts.

At least the west's romanticization of the magnum revolver didnt go unprecedented since that gun will fuck you up. But a katana? Years ago, a fucker murdered a rival salesman with the thing and the blade just fucking broke as he hacked the guy to death. Quality craftsmanship there Japan.
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>>376099748
>fragmentation bats
Could be cool.
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>>376099748
>beaners never mastered metalworking so they stuck chunks of rock into sticks and pretend they're some sort of technological achievement
>AAAYYYY LA RAZA
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Weebs are such hilarious degenerate little creatures. They remind me of goblins.
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I will never understand why any one would use a katana in battle. It's brittle as shit, the curved design makes it awkward for stabbing or penetrating armor, and it has only one edge.

A european sword on the hand hand has a trust crossguard for long blades, has a sturdy blade with two edges that's well balanced and a flat side that could be used as a blunt weapon as well as the pommel for using mordhaus. Sure it not as good in slashing as other dedicated slashing weapons like the kilij, but who needs a slashing weapon when everyone has some form of armor?
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>>376100389
Name for research purposes?
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>>376100693
Obisdian is glass but it's not as fragile as people make it out to be, it would actually cut and would last more then one use.

>>376100787
They actually had copper and some bronze weapons/tools, it just wasn't very common due to geographical and historical reasons: Lack of other regions to trade with and relative lack of warefare meant less technological innovation in regards to military tech, and the lack of any sort of beast of burden also had a profound impact, which is also why you don't see wheels used outside of on their childern's toys.

On the other hand, they had city building, agricultural, medicine/hygine, and civic shit on par or ahead of 16th century Europe. It being all over the place makes sense, since, you know, completely isolated groups that are in different conditions won't develop technology along the same pathway, and would logically be ahead or behind in certain areas depending on their envoirment.
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>>376100787

Obsidian is amazing for cutting because it doesn't dull, it just breaks into smaller pieces.
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>>376100278
it's too well crafted to not be
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>>376101298
Samurai Girls
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>>376101415
>lack of warfare

Yeah they were too busy massacring prisoners and slaves by the tens of thousands consecrating their temples.

Truly a misunderstood people.
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>>376101524
How is that good in any way? Resharpening is easy as fuck but actually breaking can't be fixed at all.
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>>376101661

No but that's the thing, it isn't meant to be fixed, it's just jammed into the club. breaking it into smaller peices doesn't stop you from shoving it in.
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>>376101067
POLEARM
MASTER
RACE

Maces are also acceptable.
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>>376098680

How can western swords even compete?
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>>376101705
Why would you want such a shit weapon? With a bit of maintenance you can use a normal blade for decades.
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>>376101793
Where was that sword aiming?
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>>376101793
>tfw there's probably no anime where someone tries this and their shitty chink sword just snaps in half or bends
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>>376101793
So weebs love katanas because of anime after all. Who would have thought?
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>>376101835

According to reports, the macuahuitl can decapitate someone easier than a sword can, and Mexico had no shortage of obsidian.
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>>376100787
They're not any less deadly
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>>376100537
I love how cheesy katana moves always are.
>The longer you wait to draw the blade, the stronger the attack is
>Millions of slashes too fast to see in <1 second
>Damage doesn't occur until the last little click of putting the sword back in its sheathe
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>>376101880

No, it's always because it's a symbol of nationalism.
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>>376101524
yeah I love ultrasharp volcanic glass fragments in my bread when I try to cut it
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>>376100308
>led Japan to victory
I love Japanese denial. Seventy years after the fact and they're still butthurt over it.
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>>376101793
>katana looks better
>katana is much stronger
why is the west so inferior to japan
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>>376101067
>I will never understand why any one would use a katana in battle.
They never did. Samurai primary weapon in war was a polearm or bow. Katanas were just for oppressing the peasantry and making sure everyone knew what an alpha dog you were.
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>>376101835
From a conquistador
>Pedro de Morón was a very good horseman, and as he charged with three other horsemen into the ranks of the enemy the Indians seized hold of his lance and he was not able to drag it away, and others gave him cuts with their broadswords, and wounded him badly, and then they slashed at the mare, and cut her head off at the neck so that it hung by the skin, and she fell dead.

>>376101948
They had normal knives, this thing's purpose was purely for warfare.
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>>376101893
Why the fuck would you decapitate anyone to begin with? What a shit weapon for savages.
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>>376101907
I love it too, it's so fucking edgy and cinematic and ridiculous.
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>>376100247
You learn something new every day
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>>376101852
Berserk, you fool
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>>376101907
>the sun is cut in half
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>>376098680
meh its alright for unarmored opponents
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>>376101907
>Remember when I thought this logic was superior
>Now I'm a hammer man
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>>376101524
>>376101896
They were plenty less deadly. They were dull and broke easily and couldn't pierce plate mail or chain mail. They were made to wound enemies so they could be taken as prisoners and sacrificed.
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>>376098680
Because people like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb3UobSZl34 exists.
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>>376099124
>>376101907
Agreed.
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>>376102012

There's a reason no one who lived near the Aztecs liked them. Because they murdered anyone they could get their hands on and loved human sacrifice.
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>>376102073
So this is the average katana fanboy... really makes you think
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>>376102002
you listed an example which could be accomplished with any sword
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>>376102049
Oh, sorry, let me reiterate.

No anime that isn't shit.
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>>376100537
What is this game?
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>>376101415
>Lack of other regions to trade with and relative lack of warefare

Top fucking kek.

>On the other hand, they had city building, agricultural, medicine/hygine, and civic shit on par or ahead of 16th century Europe.

None of those were even in the same galaxy as 16th century Europe.
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>>376101793
hhehehhehehe
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>>376098680
simplicity
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>>376102073
depressing to watch
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>>376102216
Mitsurugi Kamui Hikae
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>>376102123
She was the shit in CVS2

Sequel when?
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Best vidya melee weapons

Chainsaw > axe > fists >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swords
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>>376102073
>wipes off the protective oil coating
General retardedness aside, are all american families this passive aggressive when they talk to each other?
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>>376101415
Not him but the only thing the Aztecs had on par with european tech was warfare technology, where the gap between them was nowhere near as big as you'd think.

Yes the spaniards had guns and horses, but those will work as a surprise once, maybe twice if you're lucky, then the natives adapted to fighting them.
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>>376102250
edgy weebs btfo
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>>376102318
>muh protective oil coating
Why are weebs so fucking cringy?
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>>376102293
love you
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>>376102314
this
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>katana thread
>500+ replies
it's amusing to see how butthurt the westacucks are
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>>376102461
Shut up faggot, I operate on the different level.
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>>376102318
I think that's just a symptom of being retarded.

So yes basically
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>>376101656
Nigger I never said they were peaceful, I said RELATIVE lack of warefare.

Europe simply had so many different groups that were constantly infighting against each other and had competition from the east that fostered constant innovations in warefare. In mesoamerica, things were generally more stable, and usually there were large dominating regional powers that kept things stable in periods till wars of successon broke out and interupted the stability

The aztecs in particular, despite being incredible expansionst, proffered to get new territory via surronding enemy states and cuttong off supply lines in blockades and constant prodding them and demanding tribute till they just gave in vs using actual wars and battles. Hell, the exact sacrifice you mentioned was an aspect of it, since rather then going with real battles for territory, they would engage the nations they wanted to conquer in prearranged battles called flower wars meant to collect war prisoners to sacrifice which had an ostensible religious motivation, but was also awfully convenient excuse for their geopolitical expansionism.

They were in the process of doing this to the Tlaxcalla when the spainish showed up, which you can see in this map,what with them being surrounded on all sides by aztec territory, and the Tlaxcalla abused this by concivincing the spainish to topple the aztecs for them, which is also why the Spainish was able to win in combination with dieases: The spainish had a fuck ton of native help from the cultures the aztecs were subjugating.

>>376102356
Nah, the main thing the aztecs had that was impressive was they hydro-engineering and aquaculture skills. Go look up Tenochtitlan and spainish accounts of it, they had a city with venice tier canals and aqueducts and shit with a population equal to Constantinople that was built in only 200 years.
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>>376102531
the autism spectrum? Makes sense gg eze
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>>376101793
>>376101880

every time
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>>376101067
>it was factually utter shit

It wasn't. Compared to the best sword in history of swords, that is European rapier, yes, it was inferior. Compared to other Asian stuff, well, chinks whined that their cavalry's swords are fucking shit after fighting japs in Korea, and katans got exported in noticeable numbers as far as Vietnam in XVI century.

>It's brittle as shit

It isn't.

>the curved design makes it awkward for stabbing or penetrating armor

The entire Asia mostly used curved designs. Their armor was shit.

>>376101997

And here's this polearm faggot, thinking that the war primarily consisted of formation clashes in open field, and not skirmishes between foraging parties, assaulting fortifications, and similar fights that often happened in confined quarters, where swords were the primary viable choice.
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>>376102526
Either that or how terrible Japanese steel is.

And even if they were made of something like 5160 Spring, the design itself is just kinda OK overall. Its got a good cross section as far as cutting goes, and they're wonderful works of art, but all in all, I'll trust my life more with a true two handed sword or a hand-and-a-half than a Tachi or a Katana.
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>>376102318

Catholics are
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>>376098680
Because it's cool and pretty you pseudo nu-historian contrarian "muh knights" faggot

How long is it gonna take for you fags to realize that Katana fags went extinct in 2008 and you've taken their place?
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>>376099748
that shit looks metal
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>>376102191
beserk isn't shit
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>>376099748
i like it
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Because the Japanese make a large amount of video games.
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>>376098680
The same reason the straight-sword is so common?

It was made and used by around 22% of the worlds' population for the better part of 400 years?
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>>376102710
Name ONE mainstream Japanese game with a katana in it
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>>376100135
Ranmaru was a QT, could you blame him?
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>>376101415
>Mexico was isolated for a long-ass time
>Japan was isolated for a long-ass time
Mexico are you even trying anymore
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>>376102778
Dark Souls
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>>376102598
>Nigger I never said they were peaceful, I said RELATIVE lack of warefare.

Which is false too.

>Nah, the main thing the aztecs had that was impressive was they hydro-engineering and aquaculture skills.

Those things weren't impressive. Mesoamerican agriculture was still working on an unsustainable model that made Malthusian cycles real, and their hydro-engineering was little more than quaint toys compared to what, say, Dutch had in same age.

>Go look up Tenochtitlan and spainish accounts of it,
>Hey, fellow Europeans, look what awesome people we totally wrecked!!! Are you impressed by us yet?
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*knocks you*
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>>376102778
Onimusha
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>>376102778
Was the trick supposed to be that I come up with a list and you say "no I only wanted 1 lol"
I like it
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>>376099748
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>>376102084
>See this brute charging at you in a onesie
>What do?
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Posting coolest weapon.
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>>376102954
shoot him
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>>376098680
it's fun as fuck to use
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Aren't there more western swords than katanas in japanese games? Weebs are the only ones that are obsessed about this shit weapon.
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>>376102660

And what would your shitty sword be doing when I can just kill you from 2 meters away?
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>>376102978

You better hope you have buddies, because he sure as shit does
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>>376102936
Rokka no Yuusha is fucking great. Too bad it sold like crap and will never get s2
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>>376102976
>mfw everyone depicts them as striking weapons when they are mostly used for grappling

c'mon son
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is there any vidya with war hammers?
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>>376103043
get my buddies to shoot his buddies
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>>376100678
it was clearly a wall decoration
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>>376103072
Mount&blade warband
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>>376103072
Morrowind
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>>376103043

Mexicans need 20 friends backing them up to actually fight so unless he has that I'm not worried
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>>376102976
There's only one series in all of vidya that managed to make this weapon work if you don't count Maxi from SC.

>it gets replaced by a ridiculous bladed version
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>>376098680
It's common in Jap games. Same reason why guns are common in Burger games.
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>>376103115
isn't that smart? There's strength in numbers
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Even the lightsaber was inspired from samurai films. See Deadpool and Turtles, there are also many katanas in American comics.
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>>376102683
But it's obviously glass
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>>376102936
what anime?
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>>376098680
Why not? May aswell ask why Broadswords are so common.
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Debatable, but you'd notice that most JRPGs are modeled after D&D. If you make an RPG based only in Japan, you'd suffer from monster and weapon variety. Just compare Dark Souls and Nioh.
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>>376103187

Just shows weakness desu. I love seeing spics and blacks bragging about beating up losers and women then watching them get pummeled in a one on one fight. Best part is when the black guys friends puss out and start making fun of him for getting beat up
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>Burgers thinking they have any right to latch on to European heritage to shit on Asian one

EHL OOH EHL
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>>376103312

Well we are honorary Brits, so fuck off.
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>>376103264
>>376103045
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Who /fisticuffs/ here?

Weapons are for the weak.
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Slapping katanah faggots in For Honor never got old
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>>376098680
Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLWzH_1eZsc
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>>376103284
Nioh suffers from weapon and monster variety because nioh is a shit game

Dark Souls has 10 billion double edged straight swords of varying sizes to pad out it's weapon variety.

Ninja Gaiden doesn't suffer from weapon variety and it doesn't try to be a some nip weapon encyclopedia. You're argument is fucking retarded.
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>>376103292
>Just shows weakness desu.
Not really. As that anon said it's smarter.

You can bee a "brave" nigger and run out alone in front of the tank you'll still end up retarded and dead.
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>melee weapons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YyBtMxZgQs
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>>376103348
>Well we are honorary Brits
uuuh no you're not. You left remember? Leave it to yanks to not understand their own history. kek
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>>376103392
That fat guy has a pretty good punch.
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>>376103392
Fuck off Gray Fox
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>>376103392
>talk shit about my 70s hawaii shirt again
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>>376103392
This is how you spell Strongfat, holy shit
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>>376103392
Fuck nothing but them heavy handed hits
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>>376103467

Then show me those sweet action games based on Japan where you dont fight the 5 kinds of Youkai over and over again.

Face it. Japan as a setting is fucking boring.
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>>376102848
>Hey, fellow Europeans, look what awesome people we totally wrecked!!! Are you impressed by us yet?

Except it's also backed up by native records, geological evidence, and, you know, the fucking thousands of ruins that are scattered around mexico city and that people dig up any time there's any sort of construction.

>Which is false too.
It's not. What makes you say that?

>Mesoamerican agriculture was still working on an unsustainable model that made Malthusian cycles real,
I've never read anything to sugges this, do you have evidence? It's not like the Aztecs just came out of nowhere, the region had human habitiation and civilization for 2000 years or so before the spainish showed up. The entire chinampa suystem that Tenochtitlan used was only invented in the 1200's IIRC, too, so if anything, that merely ALLOWED a population boom by opening up a new source of food production.

>>376102819
Japan wasn't completely isolated. This is, you know, why japanese mythology and culture had shared stuff with chinese and korean mythology. There was still cultural and technological interchange at times.
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>>376103527
ONLY A FOOL TRUSTS HIS LIFE ON A WEAPON
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>>376103471

It's fine to have back up but you just look like a bitch when you need 20 people to fight one white guy. Talking to you all you spics out there that think they are tough
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>>376103616
You're trying to turn this into a racial debate. I'm just saying that you're more likely to be beaten, robbed and killed if you're a lonesome bitch who cannot amass friends.
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>>376103392
>STR vs DEX
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>>376103603
whoops, forgot to include this

> and their hydro-engineering was little more than quaint toys compared to what, say, Dutch had in same age.

Can you clarify on this?
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>>376098680
1. Its recognizable
2. Its Japanese where many games are made.
3. While crafted from flawed iron ore it was used by incredibly skilled historical figures.

70s and 80s action hollywood made Ninjas and Samurai god damn awesome and that isn't going away.
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>>376103593
>western RPG
>There's wolves
>There's varying sizes of evil green humanoids
>There's dragons

wew lad
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>>376103670

They won't go after you even if they out number you if you don't look like a complete weakling.

I went to schools where whites only made up 10% of the students. I know how non whites act and how to deal with their stupidity
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>>376103096
Blunt weapons in general are pretty goddamn legit in that series, if not for effectiveness and general handiness for taking down plate wearing niggers, then just in the ridiculous amount of dosh they get you via prisoners. Would recommend to hammer aficionados.
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>>376103761
>it was used by incredibly skilled historical figures.
Fucking retarded piece of shit weebs.

Katana were a side weapon. Samurai would often boast how they DON'T know how to use it. Meaning they were so good with bows and naginata that they didn't even need it.

Fuck you die.
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>>376103392
>wackwackwack
>arms doesn't even slow down
>dudes flying left and right
>even grazing hits send them tumbling

It's not obvious at first but he's not even really fat. Orangeman has one heck of a thick trunk.
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>>376103392
fat >>> skinny

As simple as that. Strong people can easily lift skeletons
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>>376103871
Samurai mainly used it to commit sudoku didn't they?
Honorably killing yourself was a favourite past time.
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>>376100058
The sex part was the most accurate part of that statement. Fucking weebs.
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>>376103817
sweet
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>>376103616
>Pulls a gun out in a fight
>Call the other guy bitches when they bring back up
Ok sure pal
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What weapons did the Chinese and Koreans use?
Also Katana knockoffs?
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>>376103761

Fuck off. Your "skilled" historical figures would be floored by any French knight.
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>>376103948
>sudoku
kek

Anyway they used tanto for that.
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>>376099985
yes it really does
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>>376104013
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>>376103593
In Ninja Gaiden you fight a flying fortress-borne weaponized nuclear powered giant armored fire armadillo. When defeated it unleashes a nuclear explosion and you promptly block said explosion with your Katana because of course you do.
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>>376104013
I think the chinese mainly used spears and polearms like everybody else.
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>>376104013

No. They used spears, halberds, repeating crossbows, double edged straight swords, heavy swords resembling machetes called the changdao, and other weapons that actually made sense unlike those fuckers in Japan.
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>>376104013
Nah, Chinamen actually had the metal and skill to make proper fucking swords unlike Jap peasants.
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>>376104117
>>376104092
Spears
>Easy to produce
>Simple to use
>Possibly more effective than any other kind of close combat weapon
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Why are they so common in real life?
Because they're good at cutting, aren't heavy as shit and aren't massive so you can conceal short ones.
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>>376104013
Qiang (simplified Chinese: 枪; traditional Chinese: 槍; pinyin: qiāng) is the Chinese term for spear. Due to its relative ease of manufacture, the spear in many variations was ubiquitous on the pre-modern Chinese battlefield. It is known as one of the four major weapons, along with the Gun (staff), Dao (sabre), and the Jian (sword), called in this group "The King of Weapons".
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>>376104163
>weapons that actually made sense unlike those fuckers in Japan
I hate this fucking weapon. Some guy was sperging out about how it was super effective but it looks like shit.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXesoopsWGE
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>>376104284
>aren't heavy as shit
They are fucking heavy as all shit. Katana is a piece of shit sword that you need to wield in two hands despite being so short.
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>>376104231
I wonder who could be behind this post
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>>376104163
>unlike those fuckers in Japan.
you mean who used spears, naginata, and bows like every other army in the world?
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>>376104341

Some who is correct
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>>376104341
Chinamen of today are fucking knock off producing cheapskates. Sure.

But let's not meme about ancient China. Katanas were shit and they WERE made with shit metal because of the geography. And the meme "skill" of folding and hammering over and fucking over again was done by snowniggers before fucking Christ. The reason Japs had to do it was, again, because of their shit metal.

Fucking weebs holy shit.
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>>376104231
Jian was the equivalent of a Chinese rapier in terms of who owned them and what they were used for. A Chinaman who wanted to show his footwork with a high end sword owned a jian. Soldiers almost invariably had dao if they had swords instead of the usual polearm.
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>>376104405
Don't argue with the meme spouting underage faggots

It's cool to hate everything to do with Japan now.
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>>376102314
Axes are cool and all but you can't have "best" in the same sentence when you're referring to the axe from Quake 1. To call that weapon bad is a fucking understatement
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>>376104013

Mostly polearms, because they knew swords were shit weapons.
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>>376104481
Japanese foot soldiers themselves shat on the katana and avoided using it. It's all about the spears baby.
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>>376104013
China was top tier in martial prowess if you consider the fact that they didn't have big daddy Greece, Rome and other Mediterranean civilizations kick start their, well, everything, like Europe. Not to mention due to the constant warfare/exchange, everything developed in Europe was pretty much a community effort, whereas China was on its own.
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>>376103871
Wow rage harder dude. And also rage about something you know. Fuck me you couldn't be more wrong, what asshole taught you that? Or did you go read it up yourself as a closet weeb?

Hell I at least mentioned the grade of metal as being substandard. Katana and the whole folding steal came out of that to compensate for shit ore because its an island with limited resources. This is where I learn about weaponry and old machines as its interesting to see the environment that makes them.

Katana were for close quarter combat where quick action was more important so yes at a point they were often not favored over longer blades. However what has qualified as a katana has varied in length rather widely. It was a quick draw weapon and they got used plenty.

People that train all day at war damn sure know how to kill with everything they carry. I'ld even grant you if you said othewise about Daisho as those were at least a bit of a status symbol.

God damn dude if you want to be that angry at least be right.
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>Asians and Westerners make good and effective weapons
>meanwhile in tribal land

What went wrong?
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>>376104034
That is because of armor dipshit. Metal > Wood. No shit sherlock. Slashing weapon won't do much against plate.
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Spears from the Song dynasty
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>>376100135
>>376100247
>>376103953

no homo though
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>>376104608

Quick, post the African dong knives
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>>376104608

Lower standards. A guy with a stick will win against a guy with nothing.
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>>376104332
It's hard to find any evidence that people actually used those fuckers much if at all back in the day, and the only modern footage you can find of it is "demonstrations" like that video, which probably means it's a shit weapon no one has ever really taken that seriously.
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>>376104673
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>>376104641
Not that anon but basic ass non-armored buckler using duelists from Europe were fucking with Japanese veterans 1 on 1.
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>>376103392
>when he kicks him after knocking him down
>starts lifting his leg
I honestly thought he was going to just curb stomp the guy
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>>376104608
Weren't these primarily made for hurting small animals? Like birds or rodents
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>>376100308
>>376101993

Maybe its one of those alternate history Manga's like the one with the naval ship going back in time or Gate?
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>>376098680
because superior nipplecheese wheel
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>>376102250
>smashing against a sword
thats star wars prequel shit, what fucking purpose do you have to smash all your strength against a rock solid object?

Not even a katanafag, but youre not gonna use one to fucking try and smash against a claymore. rather than go for body parts.
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Unarmed combat > weakass nip butter knives
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*telebraps behind you*
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>>376104642
For me, its the spear. The best medieval weapon.
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From the Qing dynasty. Some of these weapons were used against Japan in WW2 due to a shortage of guns
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>>376104868
I don't know what purpose those puffy bits have but they look cool.
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Daily reminder that West>Jap shit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1582_Cagayan_battles
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>>376104920

I think they were added to give the blade weight and/or to identify your side
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>>376104868
And to this day china has huge military machetes here and there.
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>>376104720
Maybe you should stop parroting some autistic faggot on youtube that cares more about his autistic ego then source material.
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>>376104946
HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THIS HARD LMAO WHAT ARE YOU DOING WEEBS
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>>376103072

asscreed 2-revelations.
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>>376104983
found this on wikipedia

Sometimes a tassel is attached to the hilt. During the Ming Dynasty these were usually passed through an openwork pommel, and in the Qing through a hole in the grip itself; modern swords usually attach the tassel to the end of the pommel. Historically these were likely used as lanyards, allowing the wielder to retain the sword in combat. There are some sword forms which utilize the tassel as an integral part of their swordsmanship style (sometimes offensively), while other schools dispense with sword tassels entirely. The movement of the tassel may have served to distract opponents, and some schools further claim that metal wires or thin silk cords were once worked into the tassels for impairing vision and causing bleeding when swept across the face.[citation needed] The tassel's use now is primarily decorative.[6][7]
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>>376105017
It's documented.
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>>376101907
>Cutting the sun in half
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>>376104720
Still a tech advantage. Shields are pretty handy.

I'm not saying samurai are the best in the world and wasn't in the original post. They are just dudes that trained their asses off. But they were limited by cultural ideas and resources.

Hell the Katana was widely used simply because it was made the official sword because of its look. Japanese sword smiths even knew better. And after that it became a symbol and culturally embedded after its forced adoption.

So yea if I had to go into a sword fight you bet my ass is going with a western made blade with quality steel and a damn shield. But that doesn't mean that guys that spent a life at war were dumb about it or their particularly look any less iconic.

Shit Japan was still using bows when repeaters were around. All it had to fight was itself and sometimes China. Europe was a pit of history and cultures that hated each others for centuries that all lived next door. Fuck yea they were good at making objects to bash each other with.

But that doesn't make some 15th century Samurai less skilled at his craft or less culturally recognizable just because he was at the limit of the world he knew.
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What stopped medieval armies from spamming archers? That shit is so OP and has no counterplay.

>they try to advance on you
>lmao just run away while spamming arrows
>literally untouchable
>inb4 muh armour
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>>376104920
>>376104983

That and I read something how they were meant to draw blood and a fighter's whirling jabs with the spear would confuse the enemy from gauging the blade's length because the color red would distract them from the blade itself.
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>>376104846
>telebraps

Fuck my childlike brain for laughing at this
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>>376105031
>1 junk
What
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Hey what did indians use?
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>>376098680
>Most games are Japanese
>Gee, why is a Japanese sword so common in games?

Goddammit, it's like asking why is the default weapon in an American FPS an M4 or and M16
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>>376105180
You are a baiting for a poo joke aren't you.
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>>376105176

Chinese ship
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>>376105107
>lmao just run away
lmao good going faggot run away while I infiltrate your city and rape your wife
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>>376105107
Sheilds
Wooden boards on wheels
Castles
Cavlary maybe
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Why does /v/ always has to be so autisticly obsessed with comparing videogames to reality? Katanas may not be the best weapon in the world in reality but you cannot say they aren't among the coolest weapons based only on its aesthetics.
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>>376105107

Guns. It's easier to train peasants to fire a musket than to train them to be proficient with a bow.
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>>376105230
Looks ugly as shit.
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>>376105130
brrrrrrrrrrrt
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>>376105190
Americans can shut their fat orange mouths. Guns are boring execution weapons and ruin gameplay. That's why good games like dark souls don't have guns.
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>>376105060
In other words
>we have no idea, but they're really purty
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Delete this thread or i'll delete your life
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>>376105031
That's nothing, horse archers need nerfs next patch.
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>>376105257
Apparently it doesn't if its so popular
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>>376105207
No I'm asking unironically because I love weapons
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>>376105230
Its some weird backlash on anime or something. So many people were into Japan stuff for awhile so now they have to hate it to feel cool. Not realizing you can find some stuff neat but not have to like all of it. And that something is used because its recognizable as a cultural object.
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>>376105230

No, katanas look like weebshit. Can you really not look at this faggot and tell me it looks cool?
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>>376105263
They have repeating crossbows tho
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>>376105297
Popularity doesn't indicate quality you mindless cuck.

It's only known because Nip make games and these weebs >>376105274 worship it.
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>>376105297
popular because of anime
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>>376105263
As oposed to Bloodborne, which does have guns.
Swords are boring in execution and ruin gameplay tho that's why you don't see em in COD.
3/10 bait
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>>376105263
I wish I had a tipping fedora picture right now
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>>376105274
What the fuck is a blockchain?
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>>376105365
Bleach didn't only have katanas
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>>376099974
No, it doesn't.
It's a shitty looking thick saber with no guard.

The katanas are literally a meme sword family.
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>>376105107
You can only run away while spamming arrows if you are on horseback. Western Europe couldn't into Horse Archers
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>>376105397
why the hell you bringing up bleach? lots of anime have katanas
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>>376105358
Confine your tongue lest your tongue confines you
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>>376105410
Horse archers are meme. They're countered with regular archers. And a stone wall.
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>>376105180
Streets
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I'm curious, but who started this shit?
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>>376105434
Katana literally means sword in japanese, it's a fucking sword. Why the fuck would they use any other kind of sword in fucking japan.
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>>376105328
We get it, you puke, get triggered and scream like a 5 year old whenever someone mentions japan, but its still one of the most popular melee weapon IN VIDEOGAMES, regardless of the fact that you and me like it or not.
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>>376105257
Well memed
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The katana is a very aesthetic weapon. The curve of the blade is beautiful, the tsuba is beautiful, the compactness, the hamon, the wrapping in the handle, the sleekness of the scabbard. It has the good aesthetic aspect of lots of Japanese art that is minimalist with well proportioned, clean lines.
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>>376105442
Is there ANY medieval weapon that could defeat an armored horse archer?

Literally no weakness.
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>>376101793
>300 posts and 100 image replies omitted
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>>376105409


*blocks you path*
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>>376105386
Combat is about the fight. How are you supposed to enjoy fighting some when you're a fat orange that kills them in less than a second with your OP gun?
Bloodbornes combat is ruined by guns. It's also a shit Sony exclusive.
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>>376105463
Action movies and anime
The Matrix, Hellsing, Kill Bill, etc
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>>376105391
Here ya go!
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>>376105107
>inb4 muh armour
Literally the problem you gigantic fag lord. The power of bows has been vastly overstated. Even chain armor (with a padded undercoat) could stop them. Hell, just the padded coat could do fine.

Archers were for harassment purposes, and even then some of the best armies of history never fielded any even when their opponents used them.
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>>376105529
*psssssssh*
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>>376105358
Jesus christ your autism, i was talking about LOOKS only, not quality or durability.
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>>376105537
Ballista.
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>>376098680
same for movies and comics
what bothers you

human beings dont have so many cool or good looking weapons. and thats mobile af
most historical weapons are nice in historical scenes for sure but a compatible weapon like katana that goes with both moden and fantasy is very rare.
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>>376098680
Why not? It's a basic single-edged sword. That's like not having a basically 9mm Pistol
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>>376105537
>Is there ANY medieval weapon that could defeat an armored horse archer?

One of those 700-1000 lb draw weight crossbows that uses a winch to load.
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>>376105605
I didn't mention the quality or durability. You fedora licking cunt.
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What swOrds did Indians use?
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>>376105442
Yeah, that meme would have wrecked the shit out of western Europe if it wasn't for fate.
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>>376105537

My trusty blade honed by the greatest swordsmith in the world, of course. I bears my soul as a warrior and with it, I can cut throught everything!
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>>376105593
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>>376105328
Protip kid, only retards use swords nowadays.
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>>376105648
Ballista.
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>>376105663
They lost Constantinople because the muslims loved using archers on horses.
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>>376105659

Sabers like the Tulwar.
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>>376098680
No one really pays attention to sword design so a generic katana is enough for a ohhh cool effect.
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>hundreds of games with katanas
>almost no games with falcata
This is a bad thing
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>>376105543
I really hate weaboos.
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>>376105685
Is this a joke scene or did he actually fight like that?
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>/v/ suddenly hates katana now
What went wrong?
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>>376105705
Me on the right.
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>>376105529
You on the other hand don't lack a sense of asthetics
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>>376105705
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>>376105756
>>376105747
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>>376105756
Nothing.This is the natural progression of growing up.When you are a stupid underage you like katanas,when you grow up to be a man you know that katanas are a meme.
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>>376105752
>Is this a joke scene or did he actually fight like that?

It's one of the ways he fights. He is a comedy relief character 80% of the time.
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>>376103072
DFO?
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>>376105756
>only takes damage after the 3rd hit and falls apart
So it wasn't a lie. Katanas are awesome.
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>>376105756
/v/ is now Reddit colony.
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>>376105756
The toddlers literally grew up taking memes seriously
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>>376105301
Oh well then. Same as everyone else really. Sword and spear are pretty common inventions. Pointy thing on a stick and a big knife aren't hard to come up with. India's I think had some influence from the ottoman empire but I could be wrong on that.
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>>376105653
>MUH FEDORA MEME
How is that liking something basing only on its look is a fedora thing? Do i have to remind you that videgames do not represent reality? I'm not saying that katanas are "THE BEST WEEPOON IN ZA WORLD", i'm perfectly conscious of the advantages of other weapons IN REALITY. Stop being such a judgemental cunt over stupid stuff like this.
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>>376105752
>asking about the seriousness of a fighting technique in an anime where they run like sonic everywhere
Does it really fucking matter
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>>376105862
then whats the alternative or a decent weapon
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>>376105713
>They lost Constantinople because the muslims loved using archers on horses.

The eastern Roman Empire used horse archers even more Islam existed. They were cataphractoi and were armed with sword, lance and bow.
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>>376105752
He actually fought like that and beat the shit out of Sasuke the edgy kid in naruto remember?
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>>376105756
It's almost summer, look at this underage as fuck comment, trying so hard to seem mature
>>376105862
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>>376105537

Yeah by not being retarded. The horse archer's main goal is to get an army to break formation and chase after them
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>>376105756
>Not the Vergil ediit

get off my board
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>>376098680
I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my katana.

Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.

Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the katanas first because their killing power was feared and respected.
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>>376105896
Calm down you autistic nigger.
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>>376098680
becouse fucking chinks
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>>376105937
If you want mele weapons go and check what's been happening in Europe for the past 2000+ years.

They have mele weapons for every situation.
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>You cannot like something cool because that makes you immature
>You always have to be serious all the fucking time and be autistically obsessed with realism in VIDEOGAMES and FICTION
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>>376105705
To be fair, he's gonna look like a fedoralord holding any weapon. Because he's a fedoralord.
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>talking shit about the katana

Heh

*steadies grip on scabbard*

Why don't you fight me on the battlefield then?

*iaijutsu's your vision sights*
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>>376098680
they're good looking compared with other swords
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>>376106096
>cool
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>>376105971
>the butthurt autists from /a/ and /jp/ are here
kek
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>>376106057
>NO, YOU!
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>>376106012
Not to mention you can attack so fast that your enemy only falls to the floor after you've put it back in its sheath.
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>>376106137
wrong
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>>376105862
And when you truly grown up, you think that all swords are fine if they worked.
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>>376105083
>They are just dudes that trained their asses off. But they were limited by cultural ideas and resources.
It's this that makes the romanticization of them so enjoyable.
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>>376106137
I bet you had tons of sex with girls who only looked good but had shitty personas.
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Maces any day you weeboo queers. While you're nitpicking over your blade and making sure it's sharp enough to cut through your enemy's bullshit padded armor, I'm crushing rib cages and caving in skulls with a solid hunk of steel. Or iron. Or a huge fucking tree branch. No grorious nippon steel folded over a 1000 times nonsense here you man bun wearing faggots. I'll bash ur face in m8. Swear on me mum.
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>>376106194
show me a better looking one
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>>376106153

You do realizes that /a/ shits on katanas as well? This
>>376102250
>>376101793
used to make rounds back then and were full of circlejerking on how european swords were much better.
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>>376106195
Katanas barely "worked".
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*blocks your path*
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>>376106153
>Implying the butthurt autists are not the ones wasting their time to attack people who have different tastes by overreacting
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>>376106129
>defending what amounts to a sharpened piece of scrap metal

Fool...
*stabs ground with zweihander*
Feel...true power
*creates shockwaves from sword*
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>>376106239
i did
guys too

i dont regret it because i settled down with someone that worships me
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>>376101896
Only as slashing tools. They couldn't stab worth shit, which meant they got niggered by any armored European.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3XyDLbaUmU
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>>376106257
>macefags
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>>376106260
:^)
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>>376106289

*grins*

That's nothing. I haven't even used 'THAT'.

*channels the spirits of SJW ancestors into my blade*
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>>376106137
>they're good looking compared with other swords
>being such a pleb when it comes to swords
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>>376106374

Maces are the traditional nobles weapon.
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>>376103045
The light novels are still pretty great. S1 follows novel one, and is really different from the rest of the series. S2 wouldn't be as much of a whodunnit as it would be anime Helm's Deep.
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>>376106328
They stabbed themselves in the stomach to kys just fine though. How can that mean that they were shit at stabbing
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>>376105301
Tulwars, basically sabres.
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>>376106137

>having such shitty taste in what are already shit weapons

Jesus fuck. If you're going to pick a crap weapon, at least pick one that could kill a knight.
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>>376106195
>katanas working
Only in anime and manga my underaged friend.
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>>376106073
those historical weapons cant be the alternative simply its too big bulky and heavy. the reason that katana is popular is its stylish. so many hollywood movies and shit use it even in a modern or futuristic setting.

im asking about such stylish yet strong traditional and modern shit not generic bulky weapons.
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>>376106398
Looks impractical and retarded, just like you :^)
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>>376106321
>i settled down
Cuck!
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>>376106096
hahahahahahaha

Pfff maybe when you're older you will understand. You can start expanding your knowledge now by watching real historian warriors like Skallagrim and Lindybeige. Get educated kid.
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>>376098680
why are you so common in vidya? plebposter?
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>>376101993
150 years later and Mexicans are STILL butthurt over losing territory that they didn't even own in the first place.

Japan at least got nuked. Mexico got a bunch of money out of the deal and no longer had to deal with Comanche raids.
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>>376106474
Dark souls is very realistic and katanas can destroy knights so fast that they don't even have time to swing twice.
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>>376106137
>Post subjective yet innocuous opinion
>immediately trigger underage faggots

Well done anon
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>>376106430
It isn't like maces aren't used by weebs too.
Mostly just lumped in with Oni most times in media sadly
>>376106480
>slaughtering unarmored peasants
>not working
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>>376105879
That's not a warhammer.

Besides, axes are better for physical anyways.
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>>376106596
Kirito's beam sword isn't even a katana, it's straight.
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>>376106528
It was used by the ballsiest motherfuckers who served in the vanguard. They would charge headfirst and break the spear ranks.

Dumb weeb go home.
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>>376106271
>>376106480
And why people used them?
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Did the slant eyed faggots ever have huge swords similar in length to the zweihander?
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>>376106505

>implying rapiers aren't the most aesthetic weapons out there such that having fencing lessons is the epitome of class
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>>376106209
Oh I make know illusion I'm sure I wouldn't want to meet one. War makes brutal people and PTSD isn't new.

Hell knights historically jumped a tthe sounds of clanging metal after seeing battles.

War is bad for the brain no matter what era or place you live in. But yea I like the movies. Same thing for Young Guns probably being a lot more fun than Billy the Kids actual life.
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>>376106398
Ah the zhwayhander. The most powerful sword in history.
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>>376106639

What the hell are you trying to say. Maces since ancient Sumeria were the weapons of rulers and a sign of power.
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>>376106537
I'm don't have autistic hobbies like weapons, i only pick the weapons that i like based on the look, so that i can have fun with my character without worrying too much and without wasting my life explaining at other people who don't give a shit about them.
>Hey i like equipping spears
>Good for you
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>>376106702
Barely anyone did. Pic related and bows were mostly used.
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Can deus vult fags start being more obnoxious? The "hating katana" meme is starting to get old.
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>>376103392

Half in the baaag.

Fuck movies!
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>>376106398

The grip is just plain leather. No skillfully wrapped cords. Plain as fuck blade with no taper until the very end. Huge, like an ugly retarded child. No scabbard at all. Ungainly.

It's not a very pretty thing.
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>>376104564
Are you implying that Celts and Slavs weren't warrior Gods from the getgo? Celts invaded almost all of Europe before Alexander was even born.
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>>376106596
God how shit this was
Remember when they started the season just busting gats then halfway through the season just went back to swords
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>>376106174
RIP
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>>376106708

Yeah, the Zanbattou or the horse slayer. It was an oversized nodachi.
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>>376102073
That name always confuses me. Why Hanwei Practical katana? What's so practial about it and what separates it from an impractical katana?
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>>376106708
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8Cdachi
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>>376106763
How is cropped porn of fedora tipping not enough for you to not take my post seriously? Jesus.
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>>376106708
Nodachi but it was just for show and executions.
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>>376106505
>the reason that katana is popular is its stylish
>those historical weapons cant be the alternative simply its too big bulky and heavy
kek
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Katanas aren't bad weapons
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>>376105685
>7 swords
>two empty hands
I laughed
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>>376106827
Because some people are unironically retarded.
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>>376106701
>You'll never get this autistically mad over someone making a sarcastic reply over weapons used in videogames
And for the matter, i don't even like katanas.
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>>376106763
>taking anything posted here seriously
Is this a double bait?
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>>376103072
>is there any vidya with war hammers?

Elder Scrolls games, but they are all retarded two hand weapons that are 4-8 times larger than a sledge hammer.
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>>376106768
Naginata were considered weapons for women in Japan.
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>390 replies
what the fuck is wrong with you cancerous morons.
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>>376106787
Shut the fuck up weeb. Your undeveloped fedora brain can't produce an opinion worth a shit.
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>>376106847
Honestly, it's kind of cool how, despite how he looks like he's just brute force swinging the sword, it still cuts the carton like butter. Really reminds you how dangerous swords as a whole actually are.
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>>376106830
Zweihanders were also just for show. No one actually used them in combat.
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>>376106882
Epic meme bro. Haha, shrine maidens were totally magnificent waifu warriors just like in my Chinese cartoons! Spears were totally NOT utilized the most in the wars!
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>tfw heavy set + club/axe in nioh
>>376106745
Interesting tidbit that is.
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>>376106847
Living the dream
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>>376106885
Shut up. the big boys are talking.
Go back to your opinions.
This thread only has facts.
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>>376106885
Some men just want to watch the board burn.
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Is there porn of a retarded samurai girl trying to use a katana against a big armored knight only to get raped on the spot?

Preferrably if it was Victim Girls.
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>>376104564
china hasnt always been a united country you dumb gwailo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_wars_and_battles
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>>376106936
Read a book you retarded fucking nigger.
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>>376106239
Yeah dude I bet those bitches don't even have null all. Fucking scrub ass personas.
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>>376106936

They were used to break up pike formations.
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>>376106989
China is one country just like Europe.
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>>376106885
I entered the thread expecting funposting and nice katana discussion, but I'm pretty sure most of the posters here are either totally braindead or falseflagging on 10+ levels of irony.
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>>376106982
Kuroinu has knights raping mikos.
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>>376106936
>people will take this post seriously
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>>376098680
nippon steel in vast majority in videogames
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>>376106936
>Zweihanders were also just for show. No one actually used them in combat.
Whanna bet?
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>>376107039
>nice katana discussion
>having such shit taste in weapons

WOULD YOU FUCKING PLEASE KILL YOURSELF? OH MY GOD
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>>376104702
man anime is fucking awful
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>>376099748
flat ended sword look pretty cool and primal.
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I seriously cannot look at katana movesets in games anymore without laughing because all I can think of is some fat american weabo posing in a trench coat
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For combat:

>GOD TIER
Western Europeans
Northern Europeans
>High tier
Mediterraneans
Muslims
Slavs
Central Asians
>Good tier
Japanese
Chinese
Nepalese/Tibetans
SEAsians
>Mid tier
Aztecs
Zulus
Incans
Malay
>Low tier
Bantu tribes
Plains Natives
Indians
Polynesians
>Bad tier
West Africans
>Irredeemable tier
Central Africans
East Africans
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>>376106940
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>>376106940
Have some literal visual documented proof
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>>376107170
>japan in the same tier as china
not for most of history
not now
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>>376106950
yeah the mace pictured in >>376106745 is the official mace of the U.S house of representatives.
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>>376106398
it's pretty ugly

>>376106410
>being so pleb you have sword opinions
you probably wear cargo shorts
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>>376105747
>you'd never march with your cohorts shoulder to shoulder to kill gauls and germans then steal their property, land and women
Feels bad.
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>>376107039
We are having a nice Katana discussion.
Why are your standards sky high?
This isn't good enough for you?
Spoilt brat.
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>>376107175
>this fucked up drawing of a human being is proof enough, ignorant savage
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>>376106998
>>376107018
>>376107054
>>376107093
Longswords were used in combat to fight pikeman. Zweihanders were entirely for show. They're too impractically big to wield unless you're a Japanese twink with anime hair.
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>>376107159
What's wrong with making a fedora tipping edgelord character on purpose just for the lulz?
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>>376105862
and when you aren't autistic you don't care.
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>>376107170

>shit small island being on the same tier as CHINA

Will you please fuck off and die?
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>>376106474
>caring about realism
pretty gay
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>>376107175
oh shit nigga a fucking drawing you totally proved your point mate, only vaginas used spears. Case closed
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>>376104059
No it really really doesn't
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>>376107274
What about photographs?
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>>376107275
>that pic
You do realize that's a specialized sword for a dude who was over 2 meters tall right?
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>>376098680
Because it's a sleek looking weapon that has a unique fighting style and usually performs a lot of impossible flashy moves. Also nip devs.

It's not a very practical weapon in real life but video games are all about doing cool stuff you can't do in real life imo.

I dunno why someone would be buttmad over being offered more choices even if they aren't gonna pick that choice themselves but complaining about things that don't matter is a staple of /v/ I guess.
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>>376107290
>western dev character design
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>>376107216
>>376107285
China never could invade Japan. Neither could the Mongols. The only people to successfully invade were Americans, who descend from the GOD TIER peoples.

China also got assfucked regularly by Mongols, Xiongnu, Muslims, etc. They had to build a wall to stop getting absolutely destroyed.
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>>376107039
>10+ layers of irony
How would you even get to that point?
Getting a degree in underwater basket weaving at a French university then developing a silent black and white film taped on a smartphone with the intent to express the inadequacy of human language then going home and taking a bath in Jell-o?
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>>376107275

Maybe because that one you posted was a sword used by an exceptional man. Normal Zweihanders only weighed 15 lbs.
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>>376107331
Also it was pretty light.
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guys where do I download jav now?
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>>376099748
>Can deliver both slashing attacks and a paddlin'
Dios mio
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>>376107240
>you'll never march endlessly for months on end stopping only to dig shitting holes and then get stabbed in the stomach by some random peasant with a sharp stick and bleed out over hours in one of the most painful deaths imaginable while your wife is fucking some dude behind your back in yoru family house in Rome

Why even live?
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>>376107290
The only thing with women was that during the Edo period it was a status symbol for those in the samurai class, something to defend their homes with while their husbands were at war.
While the same weapon was popular in battle among men.
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>>376107386
from nyaa you mongoloid
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>>376107349
>invade jap
>get some shit tier resources and shit tier inbred people as return
what's the point?
unlike mongols, chinese economy is based on rape and pillage alone.
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>>376107331
No? That sword was never used in combat. They were parade swords. The Zweihander wasn't developed until the 15th century, and by then, the arquebus was already being used by the Spanish and the Russians, and various shittier muskets by most everyone else.
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>>376107428
Nyaa is gone you humongous retarded ape
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>>376107349
>Neither could the Mongols.
Blame a fucking tornado for that, not Japanese prowess.
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>>376107275
Zweihanders translates to two handed swords you imbecile.
Don't make my autism flare up like that.
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>>376106702
Would you go into battle with only a pistol?
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>>376107453

And you did know that it was around that time that everyone used Zweihanders and dropped normal long swords? Swords werent that heavy you know.
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>>376107465
guess again you moronic piece of shit who can't even use google
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>>376107453
Guns ruined all combat.
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>>376107275
>They're too impractically big to wield unless you're a Japanese twink with anime hair.
>dude lmao armor and weapons were fucking heavy as shit!
RETARD
E
T
A
R
D
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>>376107525

Not really. Pikemen for example would last until the 17th century.
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What weapons did twinks use?
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>>376105880
What you also can't see is that there's a small tank wrapped up inside the thing she's cutting.
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>>376107474
It was a typhoon you mong, thought the point still stands.
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>>376107418
Cause i can go to a brothel and fuck a cute tiny greek boipucci. The finest boicpucci of the ancient world.
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>>376107039
Pretty sure it's just one autistic guy trying to prove everyone wrong.
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>>376107564
Their asses
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>>376107474
They tried again 7 years later and got destroyed again.

>>376107440
If resources were all that was important, then no one would've invaded Great Britain prior to the discovery of coal there. All England had was a large deposit of tin.

Japan was also a fair bit richer than you'd imagine. They were far richer than the Chinese, especially from the 1300's on through the 1700's.
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>>376107573

No, because you can blame nature on that, not on Japs being actually good fighters
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>zweihänders and greatswords are different things
Stop it.
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>>376107453
uhmmm sorry sweetie but swords were getting so big that they were practically using the zwei as a halberd
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>>376107583
You can do that now without having to die while at war.
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>>376107564

none they were serfs destined to farm
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>>376107482
No, but will it make pistol useless? I'll prefer to have it anyway.
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>>376107558
Pikemen only lasted because of the prevalence of cavalry during that time period. Particularly because of the Polish. Everyone around Poland had strong Pikemen regiments.
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>>376107615
>They were far richer than the Chinese, especially from the 1300's on through the 1700's
in what, their memetier inflated currency? Or their gdp per 1/100 the population of china?
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>>376107573
Its was called a kamikaze baka
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>>376105756
>implying that I don't hate anything that isn't horseback archery
lmao too bad you can't afford horses, riding lessons, tack, bows, arrows, and marksmen practice both on foot and riding. You wouldn't like it it takes up SO much free time that you have to spend toiling on the farm anyway lol.

No don't worry man I'm sure the front line on foot with leather armor and a pig iron sword is a great place to be, being mobile and ranged is fucking terrible tactically speaking trust me.
Also hurricanes are gay lol.
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>>376107615

The Romans invaded it because the Roman emperor at the time needed an easy victory to appease the military who put him in power

And William the Bastard invaded it to become a king
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>>376100174
every other sword fro other cultures were made for different purposes. European swords were often, fuck huge, stronger metals, a fuck ton heavy and weren't as sharp. They didn't need to be ridiculously sharp, infact they could be blunt and it wouldn't matter, they were made with the intention of the swords size and weight, along with an over head swing would cause the sword to penetrate through knight armour.

Katana's were made with the intention of being a strong lightweight and agile weapon, where one could still maneuver easily.

each sword and weapon type has its benefits and negatives. none are shit because i'm Australian and have seen aboriginal weaponry.
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>>376107657
Most samurai had it with them, they just didn't use them unless they were in a pinch, like you would a pistol.
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>>376107551
The size was the problem you fucking idiot. They were insanely big and would never work in any formation. Larger swords were definitely used in combat against pikemen, but they didn't exceed 2 and a half feet.
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>>376107514
>everyone used Zweihanders and dropped normal long swords?
No. One and half-handers and side swords paired with bucklers were more common. After that sabers and rapiers took over.
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>>376107637
They were also given wives right?
But farmers usually used scythes. So that makes twinks were reaper/scythe users.
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>>376107730
Bucklers weren't used if you wore full plate.
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I fucking hate katana cultists so much.

Can we just please sign a bill to have these people euthanized? They're disgusting
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>>376107636
>kebab tainted and of slavic blood
ew.

Nigga i ain't pussing out, of legionary combat. I want the chance to rape Boudicca and her daughters.
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>>376107618
I meant that the point that nature was the reason they won was valid.
But whatever this thread is bait to the bone anyways, I can't exactly make it worse.
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>>376107719
And what's wrong with katana (pistol)?
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>>376107768

>given
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>>376107621
Zwayhanders are ultra great swords.
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>>376107564
guns
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>>376107714
And what of the Anglos? The Danes? The Jutes? The Saxons? The Norwegians? Resources don't choose who is a winner or loser on the world stage. England is proof of that. Guns, Germs, and Steel is just trying to make the losers seem less incompetent.

If genetic superiority wasn't a factor in what nations rose and fell, then I certainly would cross of Japan, Western Europe, and Indonesia off of the success lists.
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>>376107635
>uhmmm sorry sweetie but swords were getting so big that they were practically using the zwei as a halberd
More like a spear/sword but you are right the zwei combat techniques are definitely not the joke they are in Dork Souls.
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>>376107349
Does that make Korea the top tier East Asians in warfare since they beat the Japs?

And they fucked the Chinks so hard they killed of an entire dynasty.
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>>376107821
>DSfag enters the thread
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>>376107730

Sabers were used only by dragoons and hussars. Rapiers were a civilian weapon. The zweihander was a special sword only used by the German doppelsoldners and landsknechts. Of course not everyone used them.
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>>376107805
memetier weapons praised by retards because it's meme
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>>376107817
Who else was going to produce men for the armies?
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>european nationalism and historical revisionism

Reminds me of the Weaboo vs Westaboo discussion from earlier this week. Or of that anon who tried to argue that swords were useless and that all good armies actually used clubs. From the contrarian memes you'd think that katanas were made out of styrofoam.
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>>376102669
Stop being an atheist in this board anon.
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>>376107854
They almost lost all of their land to the Japs, but several Japanese military failures involving Incheon kinda ruined Japan's plans to claim Korea.

Too bad the Koreans got niggered again only, oh, I dunno, 290 years later.
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>>376107886
Syrofoam was sturdier than gook """""""""""""""""""""""""""steel""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>376107805
Why would you use a pistol when you could use an assault rifle?

Let me say it like this, would you rather fight a guy with a tiny pocket knife or a long as fuck spear you couldn't get close to?
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>>376107849
>>376107849

The first three were invited over then saw how weak of a position the natives were in and took over. The vikings just took over what they could because they saw how weak of a position the natives were in
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>>376107854
if winning a single time determine martial prowess then either vietnam fucking shit or islam extremists.
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>>376107886

>that katanas were made out of styrofoam.

>implying they werent

They're such shit weapons jesus fuck. Why wouldnt they be? Fuck
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>>376107771
Not everyone used full plate, only the rich can afford it. Demi-armor was for the common infantry man if they can get or supplied with it. Shield and buckler men were a mainstay of pike and shot warfare.
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>>376107821
>Zwayhanders
Even imagining it makes my blood boil.
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>>376107916

No I was referring to papists only
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>>376107872
Retards that live in different century doesn't make weapon bad.
>>
Migrate since the discussion isn't done.

>>376107959
>>376107959
>>376107959
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>>376098680
>Strongest vanilla morrowind sword is a Katana
Stop this shit
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>>376107997
kys
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>>376107930
Vikings didn't just get invited in, dude. They seized the day once Rome started falling apart because of barbarian invasion.

Rome is a perfect example of why Europe must remain European. It's like the retarded globalists try to ignore EVERYTHING leading up to the collapse of the first European Union.
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>>376107886
>Or of that anon who tried to argue that swords were useless and that all good armies actually used clubs

ayy i was there. Nothing like a melee weapons thread to weed out the underages on /v/. It's so easy to see where they get their bullshit from too, it's always Dark Souls and youtube """""e-celebs"""""""
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>>376108035

I never said they were invited. and read a history book before posting
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>>376108000
it's not though
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>>376107854
More like the Sui Dynasty was utterly incompetent
Who the fuck chases a retreat upriver and doesn't expect an ambush
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>>376107170
>East Africans
>Irredeemable tier
fuck yourself, choke yourself
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>>376108000
>bethesda in charge of weapons
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>>376107926
>Why would you use a pistol when you could use an assault rifle?
Maybe you lost your assault rifle? Maybe you're in a civilian context? Maybe you're operating a vehicle or already carrying another specialized weaponry? There are many reasons why one would choose a rifle over a pistol, and even then, you don't have to choose one. You can carry them both, which is akin to what samurai did.

>Let me say it like this, would you rather fight a guy with a tiny pocket knife or a long as fuck spear you couldn't get close to?
On an open battlefield or in close quarters?
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>>376107917
>>376107938
>>376108076
How can anyone compete?
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>>376100057
>exceptionally pure japanese iron
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>>376107868
>Sabers were used only by dragoons and hussars.
By the end of the 17th century sabers were common in every European army from the Balkans to Iberia. Military rapiers were common and they were far thicker and less flexible than the ones used by civilians. By that time swords were relegated to cavalry use and as a weapon of officers.
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HEH...fools...using such pathetic weapons is useless against my demon-slaying Double Asswhoopers of fire +10.
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>>376108112
>Maybe you lost your assault rifle?
As I said. You would bring one along, but it's not like you got much use out of it.
>On an open battlefield or in close quarters?
Either.
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>>376107716
>European swords were often, fuck huge, stronger metals, a fuck ton heavy and weren't as sharp
God damn I fucking hate you so much.

Arming swords were lighter and sharper than katanas.
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Swordfags are so obnoxious they didn't even realize that they're a new katanafags.
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>>376103037
sidestep because your sword weighs a dickton and you wont be able to maneuver it mid swing to hit me. idiot.
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>>376105747
I really hate swordfags elitists. Swords are literally only for visual preferences now that guns exist. Fuck off.
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>>376102318
canadian
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>>376108293

Not in settings with no guns. Fuck OFF!
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>>376105752
He fought like that and it was great because he was up against a fucking edgelord who didn't take him seriously only for the edgy fuck to get styled on.
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>>376102318
Haruka is my waifu.
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>>376108325
>You'll never be this assmad over people who do not care about historical accuracy
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>>376103880
Hes strongfat. His muscles is prone to heavy use that his body has cover them up in fat to protect it from tearing.
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>>376104254
There is a reason why it was called the King of Weapons.
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>>376102694
The anime is
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>>376100057
Katanas are powerful, but only in the glass cannon sense. If you can't achieve a clean kill with a single stroke, they will break rather easily. They are only really used as a last resort or for suicide/executions. Japanese media glorifies them the same way we westerners glorify a six shooter. It's funny how people on the internet get so worked up over it, though.
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>>376108493
Which one?
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>>376108514
The one that goes CLANG
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>>376107716
>European swords were often, fuck huge, stronger metals, a fuck ton heavy and weren't as sharp
I wanna gut you with a Toledo steel blade. Did you watch that Katana vs Broadsword video on youtube? Steel quality was low in the early middle ages due to the lack of low carbon iron. But as mining techniques progressed and metallurgy improved Europe was churning out steel that japs can't match until their industrialization.
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>>376108497

Fuck off. I'd rather have an arabian scimitar. Silly nipshit is shit.
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>>376105862
>childhood is liking katanas, adulthood is realizing that longswords make more sense
>used unironically
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This thread is almost dead. Please migrate to continue discussion you lazy ducks
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>>376108823
kys
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>>376103392
WHAT A FUCKING CHAMPION!
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>>376104231
Didn't the chinese get dominated by the japanese constantly?
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>>376109119

Only in the early 1900's
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>>376105463
Blade
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>>376108035
i was starting to think it would come to this but now I am sure
>>/pol/
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>>376106398
Using a really long sword like a spear just concedes that spears have an advantage
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>>376109494
That sword is designed to fuck spears.
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>>376106847
Didn't this guy get in trouble for wasting water or something?
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>>376109325
>>376108072
Liberal numale cuck SJW
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>>376108116
Toyotomi was a moron.
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>>376106935
His edge alignment is actually quite good. Most people would probably just bash it off the table.
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