HotS

that doesn't look like zul'jin

>>376087152
What exactly is her role?

Is Samuro any good?

I wanna play my niggas Arthas, Anubarak, Diablo and Gul'Dan.

Are they good?

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>>376087152
I want to hug Brightwing!

lili fags go back to your containment general

>Legion Mistress Kerrigan

Jesus CHRIST, it's so good.

>>376089058
They're all probably the top of their roles.
>>376088943
Got nerfed too much.

>>376089069
Brightwing is a girl?

>>376087152
I thought that went to Sonya

>>376088274
healer/support

Why is Sylvanis so fun?

Abathur is fucking shit

>>376093287
>healer
She's not that good at it

Damn, greymane is fun as shit

>>376094223
>someone picks abathur
>without fail they always go afk

seriously, do people only pick him to troll or something?

I have only seen an abathur in lane once and he fucked sucked

>>376091478
That wasn't clear to you?

>>376094705
its a fucking fairy dragon, did you stick your finger up its cloaca to feel if it had a penis or not?

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>>376089058
Gul'dan main here.

He is one strong motherfucker if played right.
Capable of turning teamfights around and nuking groups of people with the help of an ETC or Zarya.


He can also be extremely useless in the wrong hands.


Go for the corruption build.
Picking hunger for power and echoed corruption.

>>376094683
He's supposed to sit in a lane to soak experience. He then places himself on another character/minion/tower or whatever to support and deal damage, but 95% of the people who play him are god awful

i used to report them all the time before I knew how he was meant to be played

who /OnlyPlaysBots/ here?

>>376094872
Do you just not have ears?
Because the only way a guy can get that high a pitch is if it is from hentai with a lot of buttfucking.

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Make way for the best guy!

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>>376095176
I tried to enjoy zuljin, hes just so boring to play.
If i want to play something that absolutely destroys people in 1v1s i play pic related.

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my boy

>>376095424
i still don't understand how this guy works.
he seems so underwhelming

>>376095457
You grab and pull people while your teammates rape them.

>>376087152
She also constantly damages Males' Pandaren dicks.

>>376094683
>pick abathur
>go "afk" in bushes
>one teammate bitches about me doing nothing
>game ends
>get VIP player
>35% exp, 30% structural damage, 25% healing
>"wtf hacker"

>>376087152
Drop valeera's hp by 500 when?

should I use my starting gems to buy probius?
>tfw you only like specialist heros

>>376094235
if you build into spamable Q and double healing dragons she can heal pretty well

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Post yfw FRESH MEAT

>>376096095
You should just buy him normally. He's pretty much just an ungankable Jaina.

>>376087152
>>>/vg/
please keep your cancer off of /v/ and stay in your containment board. thanks

>>376095457
Farm a lot because harvesting essence is how you tank
Coincidentally happen to have a god tier teleport on his mount slot, making splitpushing easy and then quickly popping on the other side of the map in a bush to tongue a squishy into your team

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>>376096430
Stiches is a more enjoyable pudge
Either shit everywhere in a teamfight or hook into gorge is very satisfyingood
Only problem is people lose their shit when you pick in ranked

>>376096542
Just use his thread to actually talk about the game.

Best thing you can do is ignore the waifu fags.

>>376096430
Whenever I go Chromie against a buyer l butcher I always put my hourglass right in front of me to stop it.

>>376095154
fey beings aren't exactly known for conforming to mortal preconceptions

>>376096542
>>376087152
>cucks of the storm again
I don't know why you retards shill this game. It was seen as a failure according to blizzard only surviving on microtransactions, it's hemorrhaging active players to the point where even HoN has more active players than Hots

This dumb shit should be banned from /v/.

>>376096696
My biggest problem with Stitches is that Slam does absolutely nothing until you invest like 4 talents into it. And it means you don't get to pick really stupid/goofy talents like turning your retchling into a pocket healer.

>>376096815
>put your hourglass in front of you and retreat
>butcher emerges from the fog of war behind you
every time

>>376096990
>hon
holy shit this game still exists?

>>376096990
I'm sorry to tell you, but HoN is more dead than Strife.

>>376095381
>>376095176
>>376089069
>>376087152
WoW is for Faggots

>>376097351
So what you're saying is you're super into it?

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>>376097351
no u

>>376097217
Oh damn you.
>mfw building rook with entirely power items

>>376096773
LiLi is the best

FEEL THE HATREAD OF TEN THOUSAND YEARS

>>376097351
Says the fag.

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>>376097827
>hear this
>teleport to my towers
>illicucked

>>376097908
>He stills fucks you over and that one teammate with %20 hp then dives off to a friend and survives

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>>376097351
>Hates WoW
>Name is "Wow is for Faggots"
This going to take all of my thinking might to crack this one.

>>376097827
I like how he can screw more than half the cast even without that ult.
>>376098032
>Frogposter
>Not dumb

>play against varian
>he spends half the game invincible
>blizzdrones will defend this

How do I Vikings?

>play LiLi
>anyone that relies on auto attacks is now irrelevant

>>376089058
those are all top tier characters. Arthas and Guldan so good right now. Diablo was nerfed a bit but if you build a team around him(her) you can climb ranks

>>376097351
How underage are you?

>>376095882
That last line is made up and you know it. No one fucking cares.

Carbot videos have to be the most entertaining thing about HotS and that's saying something.

>>376098156
>play against varian
he is worse at whatever role he picks than dedicated heroes and fills no niche better than anyone else, there are better pushers, better assassins, better tanks, better merc clearers/bossers.

what's the problem?

>>376098605
He has 3 charges of 2 seconds of invincibility. It should be like Genji's invincibility where getting stunned or silenced cancels it.

>>376098687
so when he hits invincibility, walk away from him and he cant do anything to you/keep chasing because he can't escape

>>376098605
>not knowing that in the highest ranks Varian is one of the most picked heroes

Tank Varian is incredibly good right now because he outputs good damage and has 6 seconds of invulnerability, he's more picked than any other sustain warrior in the game right now.

>>376098220
you dont

Alarak is great.

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>>376097456
>>376097634
>>376097889
>>376098032
furfags spotted

>>376099473
Used to play an Orc Warlock.

Fuck off, gay ass nigger.

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>>376099473
I'M GAY FOR DRAENEIS

>>376098796
except you aren't fighting in a vacuum, he charges, taunts and just stands there while his backline unloads on your poor guy while you can't do shit back. Since parry means he can't be damaged literally half the time he can just taunt someone every 16 seconds

>>376099802
>yandex actually found source for cropped porn
nice
>she has a dick
NICE

>>376096542
>video games on a video games board is cancer

>>376100105
And he's not sacrificing any damage in order to do it. The overpower build does just barely less damage than twinblades or colossus smash.

>sylvanas is my waifu
>greymane is my favorite character
send help

just started playing this
whats a good support/healer

>>376100397
>Gul'dan is my favorite vidya character
>Hes top tier and fun to play.

I lucked out.

Sylvannas is a motherfucker when it comes to split pushing, make good use of it

>>376089069
I want to fug Brightwing

>>376100517
Lucio, Malf, Auriel, Li Li, Uther are good in all situations

Rehgar, Khara, Brightwing are situationally better

Morales is incredibly situational

Tass just got massively nerfed several patches in a row

Tyrande is decent but not a solo healer

>>376088943
you can cheese with him if you have khazarim

im not sure about other healers but his clones be healed by him

>Pick Varian in quickmeme
>Win because the game doesn't recognize him as a tank so you're matched against a notank team most of the time

Charging squishies and then taunting them to lock them in place whilst your DPS murders them is great

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Downloaded the game yesterday and played 2-3 ai games this morning. They push the crate system but that's what you get for a f2p game.

Looks and plays nice.
Any recommendations for a good starter hero? Only used the free dwarf so far but the johanna templar chick looks cool.

>>376100801
What do you like to play?

>>376100753
>Morales is incredibly situational
everytime I see her she always has like 40% damage healed at the end. what's going on?

>>376100921
She's good against sustained damage but she's pretty weak against burst damage like Kaelthas

Also tanks and DPS should be diving her like fuck because left alone Morales is dangerous

>>376100762
Quick game matchmaking is absolutely fucked at the moment, Varian or no.
>play solo
>get matched against a stack of 5 people that all banded together with the sole intent of raping my asshole
>apparently my team had a higher average player level or something to validate this sexual abuse
Then it has role fuck-ups where one team can get 2 specialists while the other gets 2 supports because those two things are apparently interchangeable.

>>376100921
She melts if she doesn't have her entire team peeling her and she has zero burst healing and garbage ults.

Against terrible players, she probably is the best, though.

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>mfw steamrolling people with chogall

>>376089069
post the uncensored version

>>376100801
Use try mode, you can try anything for free. About 90% of the roster is viable all the time, 10% you will struggle with if you don't know what you're doing when you pick them.

>>376098220
multi-lane drifting.

solo merc camps after your team has an advantage

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>My face when fucking 150k+ siege damage every game as skel master Xul

>>376101494
too bad xul is garbage in teamfights, especially with lucio and lili making poison nova useless, and the skeleton mages being extremely easy to kill

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>>376089069
delet

>>376101813
He's not absolute garbage imo, he's a good side initiator since his cage traps squishies really well and whilst skele mages are squishy they have to waste time killing them which draws damage away from your team mates. He's just weaker than a lot of melee DPS like Rag, Thrall, Butcher etc.

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>on objective
>full range extended
>5 seconds without being attacked
>yfw boom time

>>376101813

Only time I get away with good teamfights as Xul is when the enemy team decides to fight in a lane, because then the skels just go to fucking town while people ignore them and try to pick off my teammates. Then its debuff city with prison, attack speed slow, healing reduction from scythe talent, etc.

I play him with friends exclusively cause fuck if i'm trusting some rando in unranked to follow up on literally anything.

>>376100753
How do I Uther? Only time he really shined was during the brawl, otherwise the heal cds were too long to really keep folks up, and damage was pitiful even on ranged assassins

>>376101161
You wipe that stupid grin off your face, pvt. pyle.

>>376101905
I feel like he's really good for QM because his cage is so telegraphed. Normally uncoordinated teams get a gigantic "Kill this target" sign.

>got super monkey king samuro and nimbus cloud in 1 rate chest

Too bad I'm too much of a brainlet for micro character.

>>376102534
The secret to playing Samuro is that you don't need micro since you're going to take bladestorm anyway. Without it there's absolutely nothing you can do against stealth characters, armored characters, or blinds which there are plenty of.

Plus it's just not that good most of the time. The engine doesn't feel like it's designed to control multiple units. Sometimes it takes several button presses to target the right clone because there's a delay before it gets selected meaning you're going to be sending one order to multiple clones or putting the main Samuro in a bad situation by accident.

Surprisingly, Brightwing announcer is bretty good. It actually makes one mood better after dying due to its lines..

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>>376102741
>starcraft 2's main fault is the ability to control 200 fucking units in a massive ball with perfect pathing and auto-spellcasting while all the buildings automatically restock. They even have a "select fucking everything" button if you're just that fucking lazy
>Hots uses the starcraft 2 engine and is developed by literally the same people (team1)
>The engine doesn't feel like it's designed to control multiple units

>>376103056
It blows my mind how they managed to fuck things up so badly. And while they can't do anything the engine was explicitly designed for they're also stuck with it's retarded limitations like taking near 2 minutes to reconnect every time your internet hiccups.

>Want to play as a character
>Worried that I'll perform poorly
>Never play as said character because of said worries
>Never improve because of it
HOW DO I BREAK THIS CYCLE

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I played Li-Ming and oh god I think HOTS is fun

>>376103375
>giving a shit
heroes of the storm is the hypercasual dota clone for people who can't handle dota, or even league of legends for that matter. you shouldn't care what anyone thinks because everyone that plays can't hack it in the big leagues anyway

>>376103383
li ming is rape incarnate, the most satisfying hero ive ever played, im about to start a game with her right now

dont take the laser, take the cool ult

>>376089058
Auriels will fucking suck dick to support a Gul'dan

>>376103421
> for people who can't handle dota

more like for people who played over 10 years of dota and recognize better, more fun game design than stat items and boring single target nuke spells

lets not pret

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>>376103498
obvious troll is obvious

>>376088274
Cocksleeve

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>>376103459
>not taking rape laser
why not anon, it scores you those takedowns for your reset. Stay slightly in the back during objectives and win win win

>>376103459
They oughta make the description clearer on how the heroic works. I thought it was an Arcane Orb with a knockback but I was pleasantly surprised on how it actually works.

>>376100801
templar chick is survival incarnate, but have less damage than muradin, just use try mode and buy 20 hero pack where you like most heroes

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>>376096430
Bring it

>>376087152
Fucking how? Shes a healer.

>>376096430
>fresh meat
>furnace blast ontop
YEET

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>hate Orcs
>especially hate Gul'dan
>play very little yet have 3 different skins for him
>break down and finally buy him
>absolutely rape everyone

METZEEEEEEEEEN!

>pick Gazlowe
>guy in Discord starts literally screaming and calls me a faggot, then leaves.
Is there something wrong with him I'm not aware of?

>>376103802
>tfw punishing treason
Leoric announcer when

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>>376103802
>got the space crusader legendary skin
>amazing special effects
>realize that Leoric is a shallow shell of what he used to be
It's sad really. I did really well, but he's just not the hero he used to be...

>>376103459
>>376103623
>Not taking both heroics
It's like you want to have a inferior build

>>376103940
Gul'dan's a fucking rape machine, it's too bad Rain of Destruction sucks dicks

>>376104008
well yeah hes dead

>>376096696
Stiches is objectively a weak hero who's only positive is that he has a lot of health and is hard to kill.
He doesn't do the things other heroes can do.

>>376103979
I can't imagine why he doesn't want game winning black holes or little green niggers running around slapping people for 800 damage a swing.

>>376104041
But it's fantastic on Braxis Holdout

>>376096430
>play assassin
>can't 1v1 stitches despite being made to deal damage

So fucking stupid to give Pudge a slow a stun and a lock down.

>>376104085
For what, wiping out a squad of zerg you shouldn't be fighting anyway?

>>376103979
>play Gazlowe in quickmatch
>they nerfed him, but oh well
>melee people below level 10
>forced to retreat
>at level 10, do decently with turrents, but typically retreat or team up for good measure
>enemy heroes are getting used to thinking im weak
>level 20
>solo anyone
>people try to stay on me only to get raped

The only thing that's wrong is WHY THE FUCK DID THEY MAKE THE TURRET PLACEMENT HAVE COLLISION WITH GAZLOWE? ITS DO FUCKING HARD TO PLACE SHIT IN COMBAT NOW

>>376103421
Nigger, I play far more complex games than DOTA. I just don't give a shit enough to learn all the item combos and hero synergies. If third world monkeys and slavic niggers can play this game what makes you think it's actually complicated? It just requires a massive amount of memorization.

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>>376104186
>turrents

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>>376087152
I'm gonna fuck that panda loli

>>376104160
Yes

>>376103979
Hes old and instead of getting reworked for a modern HotS he just got number tweaks.

His W and E are so telegraphed that you will never hit a good player, their only use is zoning in a lane and a few map objectives.

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>>376104186
>have 5 turrets up on objective and someone jumps on me

>>376104307
Or you could just take Horrify and win the fights for the Beacons in the first place

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>>376103543
Guy is right, valve completely destroyed dota over the years.
At least hots is fun in its own way.

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>>376104215
>I play far more complex games than DOTA. I just don't give a shit enough to learn all the item combos and hero synergies

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>>376089058
I wish I could play iconic lore characters but the only one I don't suck at is sidekick hoodfu.

Closest I get to popping niggers is flicking them away or finishing them off with the clap trap.

>>376104371
Honestly I like HotS because they get fairly whacky with hero playstyles. I doubt you'll see a character like Cho'gall in another game. It's honestly a shame Blizzard tries to push the e-sports shit on everything these days.

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>>376095551
>>376103459
>>376103623
>>376103940
>>376104041
>>376104186

What's with all the rape?

>>376104381
Refer to the last sentence. The average player of DOTA is a third world subhuman.

I only play Tracer and Murky.

>faggots STILL coming into the threads talking about how this game is so cashyule compared to Dota 2
>implying every game needs to be the same hyper competitive level

I've been playing a lot of HotS myself and enjoying it, it's much more team and objective oriented, so you can't just turbo carry like you can in other Mobas for the most part.

>>376104064
I played abathur the other day and I would set my mines down behind him but slightly out of the way and he would hook a healer or striker and drop them right on the clustered mines.

Guaranteed kill on a high priority target each time.

Plus stiches with a fully buffed carapace is fucking ridiculous.

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>>376104482
>third worlders being able to afford electricity, let alone a computer with internet access and good enough hardware to run dota 2
They don't even have fucking running water, are you doing the obvious troll schtick on purpose or are you really that ignorant?

>>376104480
Rape is funny

>>376104363
>it was genji

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>>376104480
Welcome to HOTS
You get raped, or you don't, and it doesn't matter because nothing matters.

The talents are made up and the objectives don't matter.

>>376104424
>Stick the crown on a Sonya or a Gul'dan
>Reduce cooldown on Q when hitting enemy heroes with the center
>Increase Q radius
>Blind on center hit/pull everyone hit to the center
>Slap niggers constantly, have more energy than you know what to do with

Auriel's fuckin fun m8

>>376104530
Stiches has a ton of health and he has some decent heals, but he does his role worse than other characters and his hook isn't that good.

>>376089058
They're not "meta" but they're all good. Gul'dan requires the most skill but is the most rewarding.

How is Probius?
I'm nearing 10k gold and looking for something to buy.

>>376103543
t. shitter who started with dota 2 and thinks valve didnt just lazily clone warcraft 3 dota instead of improving on it

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>>376104662
Fucking incredible. I love slapping aggressive assassins down who think they can swat me down or luring them into a nest of rifts. A lot of people underestimate how much damage the turret does too.

>>376104215
Why do you give a fuck about what a random pablo on the internet thinks about you?

>>376104743
Q build or turret build?

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>>376103498
stop
you're just making a fool of your game
your paycheck is suffering for that post
do it for yourself

>>376104781
I generally go turret especially if there's an invisible asshole lurking around.

>>376104651
The hook is by far the longest forced move in the game. He was grabbing the healer or their strikers from the space they thought was safe and dumping them in an instant kill scenario every minute.

Hes definitely an old hero from an older version of the game and needs an update but he is absolutely unstoppable when synergized correctly.

Personally I think they should pop him out for patckwerk and make him a bruiser. His "bruiser" build now has zero fucking damage.

>>376104781
Depends on what you want

Burst damage or tower defence

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>>376104626
I go for that exact build, still wish slapping did more damage but that might just be me getting greedy.

Why are there so many Eva-01 skins?

>>376104652
>Anub
>Guldan
>Not meta

Did something happen when I wasn't looking? Anub has the highest winrate out of all the tanks and Guldan is amazing in Braxis and he functions as both a Specialist and Assassin

>>376104876
A single slap doesn't do a whole lot of damage but if you can reduce that cooldown you can put out some decent fuckin numbers.

>>376104553
Brazilians and Slavs are third world you know.

Without any items, runes, or materies this entire game feels like you're extremely reliant on the balance of the talents and at the whim of how good these builds actually are in raw numbers and synergy.

Also weird how some heroes seem to be able to either put most of their talents on a single skill, but then some heroes get talent choices that are each a different upgrade for one specific skill at various odd levels. Due to the fact that the only factor in raw power is shared team level it feels like farming would be extremely important but levels differences are so small and they come back so quickly it's often not worth farming and participating in fights is better, at least at whatever shit-tier MMR I'm at.

It's hard to understand exactly how to play this game.

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>>376104381
Do you honestly think that Dota is a complicated or deep game? Its' playerbase consisted entirely of 12 year old eastern european kids 15 years ago and it still does today and that's not cause it's a complex game mode to learn and play.

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>when you're slapping around assassins as Li Li in mid and lategame
this shit's too fun

>>376104878
>why are meme skins meme?

Zoinks Scoobs, looks like we're up to our asses in another mystery.

>>376104918
Terrain collisions are deadly.

>>376104949
Slavs are the saviors of civilisation
They're Zeroth world

>>376104826
Depends on the map I suppose, but most maps are objective control heavy which means hooking people into a gank holds less weight, since you'll be forced into more objective team fights.

On the dabloom map, I could see it, but they trashed that wonderful gem

>>376104918
It takes a really tight group though to remember to be your meat shield and not tunnel fuckers. You feel like like a goddamn kindergarten teacher.

Where is the Murky love? My number one hero, followed by Stiches.

Fuck the meta

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>>376104980
Why casualize it further then?

>>376104662
Hilariously fun.

Your photons cannons do dick for damage but you are speedy as shit and warp rifts do RETARDED damage.

You also have infinite mana which is always nice

>>376105068
Getting a good pick-off right before an objective spawns makes it easier to claim the objective

>>376105101
Haven't played in a while but murky was so fun. He's just an annoying little cunt who can get away with it.

>>376105114
You cut the fat from the game so that it becomes fun.

>>376105114
You can't casualize it further because it's already extremely casual. Saying that HOTS is for people who can't handle dota is retarded because it plays differently (even if it has the all the hallmarks of a dota-like map).

>>376105101
Murkys great normally but hes really shit on the current map rotation.

>>376105068
I guess, but a 4v5 can be a big win or a toss up depending on the comp and if you can do it on every objective it is a big deal.

>>376104980

Except it IS a more complicated and deep game compared to any other MOBA game on the market. Last hits, denies, creep stacking and pulling, runes, more specialized heroes, more active items, more early game items and no scaling for some heroes in certain parts of the game make certain roles important at certain points of the game, etc. etc.

Saying it must be a shitty or casual or "easy" game because it has lots of children (because it's free) is not a valid fucking argument, especially since those same children do not play the game well to any capacity and are easily defeated by a skilled player, where as in more casual MOBAs these kids and compete somewhat because the heroes and growth is much easier so they can at least participate by spamming abilites with their limitless mana and sustain.

You have literally no idea what you're talking about.

>>376105219
>Not casual
>Plays differently
Yeah, it plays like a casualized moba.

>>376104728
>implying anyone wanted them to do anything different to it
people wanted a clone and they got it, but minus all the restrictions of the WC3 engine, so rubick's ultimate actually works as intended, among other things

>>376105285
Autism isn't something that should be lauded. We shouldn't be encouraging it in children or young adults by allowing them to play DOTA. All of the things you said that make it "complex" are not actually complex in the same way an applicable science like physics is. It's autistic.

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>>376104878
>Anubarak was basically inspired by Eva-01 back in his TFT iteration
>has a mechanical fucking skin in hots
>doesn't have Eva-01 coloration
explain

>>376105198
>i want some meat, let me enjoy these soy burgers for their meat

>>376098796
taunt + parry is literally a hard targeted 3 second stun on a 16 second cooldown

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>>376105403
>food analogy

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WHEN

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>>376105371
>i don't like it because i'm bad at it

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>>376105371
how neurotypical

>>376105441
>he mentioned food
>that means he's wrong

>>376105371
>I am bad at everything I do so I hate people that like to put effort into what they do

That sounds like a personal problem but preaching lazyness and ignorance doesn't sound like a good idea.

>All of the extra systems during play aren't complex!

Dumb dumb, the complexity comes from managing all of those things at the same time.

>>376105307
Mobas are casual by definition.

>>376105471
As soon as we're done with the entire Overwatch cast

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>>376105471
>no Terokk
>no Kilrogg
fuck outta here

>>376105403
>Food analogy
>Thinking fat is meat

is this....is this bait?

>>376105473
200 hours of rote memory and then you're not bad at anymore.

Question is, why would you want to put that much time into it when you could do anything else? I'd rather be reading a book, working on my other languages, and various other things.

Just because you -can- eat your own shit for every meal doesn't mean you should.

When you sit down to play a video game, it should be fun. It should not pretend to be deep because it fundamentally cannot be. It should instead use that pretension to be fun.

>>376104878
Blizzard likes daily dose

I tried getting into the game because of D.Va, however it seems to be a disorganized mess on every lane which devolves into a clusterfuck, and on top of that animations feel sluggish. What am I doing wrong? This does break every MOBA framework but in a bad way the way I see it.

>>376105560

Do people actually believe this shit?

How retarded is the average /v/ user if everything they don't like is CASUAL CAWSHCULLE!? Do you even know what a casual game is, you fucking retard? No MOBA on the market is a casual game by any respects.

>>376105560
>Multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA), also known as action real-time strategy (ARTS), is a genre of strategy video games that originated as a subgenre of real-time strategy, in which a player controls a single character in one of two teams. The objective is to destroy the opposing team's main structure with the assistance of periodically spawned computer-controlled units that march forward along set paths. Player characters typically have various abilities and advantages that improve over the course of a game and that contribute to a team's overall strategy. MOBA games are a fusion of action games, role-playing games and real-time strategy games, in which players usually do not construct either buildings or units.

I mean I get what you are saying but you said it in a stupid way.

>>376105641
>it seems to be a disorganized mess on every lane which devolves into a clusterfuck, and on top of that animations feel sluggish. What am I doing wrong?
playing a shit character at a beginner MMR

>>376105596
>Those fags
>More important than Kel'goddamn'thuzad

>>376105642
Dota was a baby mode custom map for faggots too casual to ladder.

It being casual as fuck is why it was so popular

>>376105471
>kel'thuzad
yes

>maive
no

>sc2 stukov
fuck no

>>376105684
As a beginner MMR once I even got matched with people level 70+, talk about fucking matchmaker to top this.

>>376105471
>Kel'thuzad
Yes please, especially after they fucking ruined Xul

>>376105763
player level means nothing to your MMR
shit players have had two years to level tons of characters

>>376105471
Kel'thuzad would be a disappointing mix of arthas and jaina, maeve is illidan with zul'jins twin cleave and we don't need anymore shitty starcraft heroes.

>>376105761
Look if Stukov is going to be in the game it's going to be sc3 Stukov, because Brood War Stukov has nothing to bring.

>>376105626
>rote
This is a brand, don't do that shit to sound clever.

>>376088274
baiting the other team

>>376105798
So at some point people will pick healers and play them as such, and not just roam around eventually fighting 1:3 etc? So far all I have seen is really slow animations and the general retardation. And a shitlong queue.

>>376105626
>spending 200 hours on a game (and apparently mastering it) and then whine about it not being fun

>>376105873
unironically this, if Li Li can get 2-3 retards to chase her around she's doing a good job

>>376105847
>Rote learning is a memorization technique based on repetition.
You shouldn't try to sound clever either because you're clearly a fucking retard

>>376105901
welcome to /v/

>>376105641
Lanes in other games tend to be set due to the layout of the arena. HotS changes each map so drastically in comparison and has dynamic objectives to encourage lane swapping.

This replaces the jungling mechanics of other games so that everyone is involved with the same objective.

>>376105739
>Dota was a baby mode custom map for faggots too casual to ladder.

As opposed to any other custom map made for wc3...?

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>play with a friend
>every game he keeps spouting shit about how x is low on some tier list or x is the worst healer

I get that it's a fun game and all but there's no way we're going to be staying long enough to get into ranked

>>376105441
>distinctive lack of an argument

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I don't know what you're talking about? Blizzard Entertainment™ is one of the best companies ever and they consistently produce quality games and movies. Not to mention their dedication with listening to player feedback. I, personally, have been playing WoW for over 10yrs and I have to say that Legion is easy the best expansion to date. I'm not the only one either. Every time I log into my capital city, I lag! If that doesn't prove that the subscription levels are at an all time high than I don't know what does.
And, gee, don't even get me started on all the new features they've added into WoW, like Artifact Points (AP) that really lets me customize my character and contributes directly to my class fantasy. And the quality player base within the game keeps me coming back.
In fact my only problem with Blizzard Entertainment™ is they make TOO MANY good games! lol! I just don't have enough time to play the Award Winning StarCraft™, the great new hit: Overwatch™ (which might I say, even for a mature gamer like myself, those toons sure are spicy! ha ha), and the latest edition: Hearthstone™ which is available on all mobile and tablet devices on the Apple™ App Store or Google™ Play™.

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>>376105761
>Maiev
>No
Kill yourself, cuckold.

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>>376105626
>200 hours
>a lot

>>376105993
>changing the subject
Object X posessing a quality of ¬A does not imply that object ¬X posess the quality of A

Favorite Warrior?

>tfw I don't enjoy draft mode and all I play is quick match

>>376106356
Muradin

>>376106251
Like how a simple metaphor is not always about food and a food metaphor is not always simple!

>>376106387
well, draft mode is pretty terrible what with being allowed to ban heroes. imagine if you were playing team fortress and over half the classes were banned every match

>>376106356
Diabro

That charge reset talent is just too fun

>>376106356
Varian

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>>376105739

Wrong. Dota was a custom select-a-hero mode with unqiue characters and mechanics, nothing to do with the actual strategy wargame of Warcraft 3.

Bejeweled is a casual game. Angry Birds is a casual game. Match 3 clones are casual games. These games usually require little time investment from the play to enjoy the content, little to no competition, and in the past had small pricepoints where as now they are more about microtransactions.

Dota, League of Legends, and HotS are not casual games. Not in any conceivable way could you argue a competitive online game being comparable to a simple puzzle game soccer moms play on their cellphones. You don't know what you're talking about. You literally spout buzzwords. "I don't like this thing so itz cazsual". It's not a casual game. That's not what that word means, stop talking.

>>376106431
Drafting provides two main services. It allows temporarily unbalanced heroes to be removed from the game and it allows your team to ban a hero that will be dangerous for your favored team design and the opposing team can do the same to you.

It adds a strategy phase to the game.

>>376106356
Johanna, cause I like taunting a 5 man into me and live with my trait

Are shards only used for cosmetics?

>>376106617
if anyone attacks you as johanna outside of you being the only one left alive, they are an idiot because you don't do any damage and pose no threat whatsoever

>>376105918
its amazing how you can be losing all game with an AI lunara from a guy that disconnected, cores at 40%, then you bait their whole team into a wipe and win

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>>376106513
>HotS2
>competitive
are you st-
>reddit spacing
>naming your files to hide you've got them from KYM/Google Image Search/Imgur

>>376105793
Nothing wrong with Xul

>>376105626
I came here to laugh at you and drink beer.
And I now need more beer.

>>376105739
is right
>>376106513
is oh so wrong

>>376106356
Leoric, and 95% of the reason i like him is that fucking box. Opening up the level editor and giving the ol spooky hand to someone out of position never gets old

>>376106916
>being so fucking lazy that you're proud of not filenaming
explain

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>>376106513
>nothing to do with the actual strategy wargame of Warcraft 3
>ASSFAGGOTS babbies actually believe this

>>376106251
>changing the subject

Just admit I'm right.

>>376106916
>naming your files to hide you've got them from KYM/Google Image Search/Imgur
>not having a premade .txt with 4chan filenames to mask the fact you got them from image search

>>376106714
Only cosmetic shit like announcers/sprays/skins yeah

>>376106714
Such a stupid multilayered system.

Shards are for cosmetic items only and you get the from chests as a drop or from a duplicated item at 1/4 its value.

Featured cosmetic items can also be purchased with gems.

Gems also purchase stimpacks and unlock heroes.

Gold unlocks heroes and can be used to re roll chests. Chests that give you shards.

>>376107095
also mounts

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G-Gazlowe mains w-where we at?

>>376107195
pitch him to me

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>>376107023
>check out my totally epic filename humor
>i am indeed from reddit/9gag/gaiaonline!
>having so little images it's possible to name them in a reasonable time

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>>376107047
Sure, I will.
WarCrap ]|[ custom games, including but not limited to Defence of the Ancients: All-Stars, were casual baby shit created for baddies und shitskins too bad for ladder.

>>376106431
It's necessary if you want a 'fair' match.

It allows you to counter pick and balance out your team. The heroes aren't equal.

>>376107207
ARE YOU OUT OF TOUCH AND WANT A HERO THAT WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING DURING A MATCH! THEN COME ON DOWN TO BLIZZARDS DISCOUNT HERO DEALERSHIP WHERE YOU CAN TRYOUT HEROES THAT WERE NEVER ADAPTED TO THE EVER CHANGING META.

THIS WEEKS SPECIAL IS GAZLOWE GAZLOWE GAZLOWE! HE HAS TERRIBLE DAMAGE AND NO SELF SUSTAIN AND HIS SPECIALTY IS ZONING IN A GAME WITH WIDE LANES AND LARGE OBJECTIVES! THE TURRETS CAN BE PRETTY COOL THOUGH THOUGH THOUGH!

>>376106952
Except he's a fucking melee specialist who dual-wields a knife and a scythe and that's retarded. He should have been literally any other role.

>>376107276
>a guy who saves thousands of reaction images
>a guy who takes the time to rename a small collection of reaction images
>both think the other is putting too much effort in

Is this meta autism?

>>376105739
This is it exactly.

The micro you would do in a regular match of WC3 is like playing chen x 10 every match.

>>376107276
>Not naming them as you obtain them
holy fuck get out newfag

>>376107354
>THIS WEEKS SPECIAL IS GAZLOWE
More like every week's special

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>>376107354
>THE EVER CHANGING META
>in HotS2, a game explicitly designed to be teamfights teamfights all the time
i don't think that word means what you think it means

>>376107317

Actually, warcraft custom maps are the only reason to play warcraft.
The actual game is sub-par.

>>376107397
You play xul as a melee?

>>376106513
He's talking about mobas being casual compared to the genre that its derived from - true RTS or in this case Warcraft III.

The micro in any MOBA is nothing compared to what you have to do in a high skilled wc3 match. In fact it's jarring to see people controlling only one hero for the whole match act like hot shots.

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>>376107463
Why would I?

>>376107470
>Meta (from the Greek preposition and prefix meta- (μετά-) meaning "after", or "beyond") is a prefix used in English to indicate a concept which is an abstraction behind another concept, used to complete or add to the latter.

HotS is the game, the metagame or "meta" is to compare heroes while trying to synergize with your team and map while countering the enemy team.

Gazlowe has no value in that meta game because zoning has been extremely devalued in hots compared to other mobas, especially in newer maps.

Get fucked.

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javascript:quote('376107472')
opinion invalidated

You know people say "casualized" but really it's more like "streamlined".
Last hits are skillful but they aren't fun.
Creep stacking is complex but it isn't fun.
Denial is deep in function but it isn't fun.
When you're trimming down things and making them less complex, but more fun, it's really just streamlining.

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>>376087152
>still no DIE INSECT announcer
Ragnaros announcer fucking when?

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I want to try other heroes now... but they're behind a paywall and it sucks

>>376107692
>Make a game simpler
>Make a game more fun
>Not casualized

What the fuck are you talking about?

>>376107731
>Pay wall

You mean play wall. You get Gold, Gems and Shards from playing the game and heroes cost is tied directly to how old they are, not how good they are in the meta.

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>playing fantasy games

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>Not really a fan of Kerrigan
>Played her to level 3
>Have 15/18 skins somehow
>Some heroes have 0 skins, others have 1 or 2

How / why?

>>376106916
>not having LITERALLY over 100,000 images so they need to be named and categorized so you can find what you need faster
hownew.ru

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>>376107826
Paywall

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>>376087152

Mad dmg doesn't really help you though, if your team monkeys keep on dying.

>tested out the e/w built in Quickmeme
>got 20k more dmg than the Jaina and Valla on my team
>50k more dmg than the enemy support malf
>but had half the healing of the enemy malfurion


Okay, Jaina kept on feeding solo and finished the game with 8 death but the point still kind of stands.

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>>376087152
Semi-related but Li Li has a surprising amount of written matieral and a comic dedicated to her. She's surprisingly badass a character for someone her age, and the game doesn't really do her justice.
Not that many people would care for that but she actually suffers quite a bit, though she's past that now and is on the incline.

>>376105739
and warcraft 3 is a baby mode casual game for people who can't micro thousands of units like you do in total annihilation/supreme commander

>>376107952
>i totally have 100k images, i didn't simply type "funy tom and jerry image meme" into image search

>>376108096
>he thinks i'm the same person
You're so new you don't even have the ID script, how embarrassing. Filtered, Anonymous (ID: UyvXyEKN)

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The two healers in the game are fine.
There really isn't any need for any more of them. They would just feel like the same character unless Bliz came up with new reliable ways to heal.

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>>376108131
>you don't even have the ID script, how embarrassing
easiest way to spot the newfag since 2006

>>376107838
looks like you killed the entire player base in that webm.

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>>376108131
Go ahead, expose me and link all my posts.

>>376107758
I'm more of the mind that casualizing implies it wasn't made more fun to play.

is chen useful again yet?

HotS may have a lot of problems, but it has the best waifus by far.

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>>376107935

Embrace the Kabal... Swarm!

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Kerrigan/Kerrigan%20-%20Default/Kerrigan_Pissed05.mp3

>>376108162
>the heal over time character and the heal over time character
At least add Auriel, who does work off a new reliable way in comparison (all burst all the time).

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>>376108184
oh right, he'll pretend he filtered me and ignore this one

Is Auriel any good ? Is liked trying her but I lack game knowledge to know if she's useful.
Her legendary skins are dogshit tho.

>>376107491
I don't play Xul at all

>>376108328
I hope you don't pick Auriel to heal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIEVqFB4WUo

>>376108429
Auriel's really strong with the right partner and some decent positioning but if you don't reduce the cooldown of her heal she can fall behind a bit in output against certain teams. I've been playing her and she feels super impactful

A-Am I wrong in liking ETC?

>>376107397
>. He should have been literally any other role.
The only other role he could fill is assassin and we dont need any more of those

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>>376108429

The Nr 1 Grandmaster player (US - according to hotslog) plays a lot of Auriel.

Check the built and the dmg/healing he does her.

https://www.hotslogs.com/Player/MatchHistory?PlayerID=3328772

Always helps me a bit to see how much healing they actually do/on what map and in what time.

>>376097351
>wow
Nigga that's his Warcraft 2 costume
Good job revealing your pleb status

>>376108429
She can be truly great in execution but her deepest flaw will always be her symbiotic design. In other words, you only can possibly be as good as your damage dealers. Is your team good? You will be great. Is your team bad? It doesn't matter how good you are, you will struggle.
In a game with so few carry mechanics already, it makes her both winmore and losemore, a momentum magnifier.

>>376108574
http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/E.T.C./E.T.C.%20-%20Default/ETC_IntroRespond02.mp3

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*gets blocked in your path*

>>376108673
Good to know I make the right talent choices.
Except I take Swift Sweep if they got nimble shits that I need to blind fast (Illidan, Zeratul).

>>376108582
Really? You don't think the D2 Necromancer lends itself to a single other role? No curse-based support? No summonmancer ranged specialist? No Poison & Bone Warrior who annoys the piss out of the enemy with Bone Prison & Bone Wall? You really can't think of a single way he could be anything but a melee specialist or assassin?

>>376095381
>No sustain
>Absolutely destroys

>The Lost Vikings have their own franchise category of "Blizzard Classic"

What the fuck else would go there? Blackthorne and a car from Rock N Roll Racing?

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Beep beep, best hero coming through.

>>376087152
More like, the best semen extractor in the game. Amirite?

>>376109084
Does that look like Chromie to you?

>>376109014
>a car from Rock 'n' Roll Racing
Fuck yeah, dude, I've been waiting for it for ages.

>>376109107
You misspelled High Elf Tyrande

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>>376109134
You misspelled Zagara.

>>376108320
Her voice is pure sex

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Post favorite quote/voiceline.

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/

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>>376109134
No it was you who misspelled love goddesses Tyrande

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>Get support pack free
>Only here for Overlook skins mixed with boredom
>The only good Support is Lucio

God damn it Blizzard.

I did find it funny that all the OW characters translated into literal MOBA ones with minimal changes.

what bundle is overall the bes to spend my 100 gems on?
i own at least a few heroes from each one already

>>376109712

>try dmg Lili
>Rhegar and Tassadar are also fairly fun
>you can be super aggressive with Malfurion - do high dmg and carry games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ml1r_CBP3o

>>376109723
Google it, some redditor made a list of shit.

>>376109712
>Only good support is Lucio
That's factually incorrect

>>376109446
http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Diablo/Diablo%20-%20Prime%20Evil/DiabloPrime_Pissed05.mp3

>>376109723
http://gibraltargamers.com/hots-calculator/
Put in the heroes you own and the calculator will tell you which bundle gets you the most value. You can pick and choose between similar value bundles if one has a hero or 2 you really want to play.

>Get my first legendary mount
>It's the jade nimbus
great
fart cloud
just great

>>376110171
>Prime Evil Diablo has a intro line where it talks to Leah
So Leah will be a hero?

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Diablo/Diablo%20-%20Prime%20Evil/DiabloPrime_IntroQuestion_Leah00_ALT.mp3

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explain?