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Halo is fun haaha

>It's a pc vs console shit post episode
Man another rerun

>>376072225
That quote is right from a sales perspective

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>>376072372
>implying this doesn't happen all the time on the pc too

>>376072372
Both players suck ass.

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>>376072773
Probably the most amazing webm anyone will ever see.

Bungie makes great feeling console shooters.

Lets see what they do with destiny 2 on pc.

Timesplitters was the better console shooter series.

>>376072773
nice aimbot

I'm not opposed to shooters on console, I enjoy halo. But M+KB is just so much better.

>>376072225
>mouse

Fucking how

>>376072225

Killzone 2 did pretty well for itself too.

Market it right, and even a pet rock can make millions and be "successful". Even if it does absolutely nothing but sit there looking slightly better than a turd.

>museum
I wonder where their funding comes from

>>376072225
What is their to discuss, she is just wrong.
>2+2 = 3
>hurr durr discuss

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>>376072225
H I G H Q U A L I T Y M O U S E

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>>376072773

>>376072225
Wrong.

>>376072773
>reticle perfectly snaps to enemies head with no wasted movement.
aimbot confirmed. fuck off

Console shooters are fine if you're not a turbo-autist. I personally am a turbo-autist so I can only play on PC these days.

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>>376073398
>babbies who never got a lucky shot

>>376072225

If you were to tell me back in the day that there would be extremely successful FPS multiplayer on consoles and tens of millions of people would be playing with gamepads... well, shit.

Meanwhile, arena shooters on PC are on life support.

For quote in the OP pic: if "effective" means "popular", then sure. If "effective" means "just as good and won't feel sluggish and uncontrollable coming from M+KB whatsoever" then obviously it's wrong.

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>>376072510
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>>376073603
And he just so happened to be recording that exact moment. WOW SO LUCKY

Can someone even explain how keyboard and mouse is supposed to "work"? I don't have three hands.

>>376072225
Hale proved a good story, music and marketing campaign will sell a console exclusive(til 2003), despite having to use a controller.

>>376073898

Use your dick, duh.

>>376073898

What, don't tell me you don't know how to use your dick as a third hand?

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PC players wouldn't mind at all if they actually believed what they said and less us cross play with console players.
Theres no technical reason, networking wise that stops this btw.

>>376073898
why do you need three hands

>>376073603
>multiple perfectly straight angles towards the guys head
>just a lucky flicky LOL
Slow that shit down or just pay attention, you'll see.

>>376072773
>>376073603
It's obviously an aimbot when you watch it frame by frame

>>376074073
fucking christ how shit can you be

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>>376073898
>he doesn't use his tongue to reach the keys on the right side of the keyboard

>>376074115
It would be painfully unequal unless you gave consoles generous amounts of "aim assist"

>>376074115

GoW 4 has cross platform multiplayer now.

Granted the nature of third person aiming levels the playing field a little bit

>>376074073
YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE CONTROLLER ANNOTATIONS AT THE BOTTOM

>>376072773
I miss how powerful the CE grenades were

>>376072225
Effective in terms of feeling good and fun to play, then sure. Halo CE paved the way for how to do a good shooter on console and for a while was the sole surviving arena shooter around.

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CE gets it's dick such too much for being revolutionary. Yes, it set a standard for console FPS's and really FPS's in general in terms of contro and general design, but it didn't actually do anything novel.

Halo 2, like CE, also set standards for online functions, but it also outright fucking invented many of them: The party system, matchmaking hoppers, and in general a lot of the backend stuff for matchmaking was a first for the medium in Halo 2, across both consoles and PC

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>>376072372
This isn't an issue of >analog sticks, it's an issue of the players sucking. Case in point, webm related

>>376074371
>Reach makes grenades actually feel like grenades again
>people bitch and moan and whine

>>376074527
>FPS's in general in terms of contro and general design,
wrong

>>376074527
I can't get over how slow the """"running"""" speed is

>>376074073
>Managing to be this bad with a 360 controller
How? Dualshock I get since it's a pain in the ass to properly aim with those sticks (Both DS3 and DS4) since they feel so sensitive, but there's absolutely no excuse with the 360/Xbone controller, the damn thing is basically made for shooters and is nice.

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>>376072225
How is it going?

>regularly snipe the shit out of plebs
>most of them whine and scream aimbot
>happens more on console than pc

What are the odds even that someone modded their console just to do this and you're playing against them?

Also why doesn't anyone acknowledge each other's skills? Even your own teammates don't give a fuck if they got carried to victory or not and will complain if you can't do it again.

Online multiplayer was a mistake.

>>376074119
I'm not left handed, so it makes no sense to take my hands off movement to clumsily attempt to headshot someone.

thatd be a real argument if halo wasnt on PC too

Playing FPS on console is like competing in the special olympics. I'm not saying this to be spiteful, it's just that a game pad is an inferior input method when it comes to FPS.

>>376075039
I'm not sure I know what you're referring to

Where's your right hand during all of this

>>376072225
>Console could be just as effective, if not better, than a PC
Makes one wonder who the fuck the kind of person is that writes shit like this.
Throw out every tiny bit of aim help / correction inside of every FPS and you will see how broken and shit the games become when used by anyone that isn't an highly experienced console player.

The point I'm trying to make is that most console shooter need aim assit to help the casual fags to get shit done at all, that's not the case on PC thanks to the mouse begin a very easy to use device.

There are exceptions for the rule of course, just throwing out some ideas.

>>376075118
It wasn't at first.

Amusingly though, it was originally going to be a Mac exclusive game.

>>376072225
but Halo Combat Evolved was much better on the PC

OK but for real, I grew up and didn't have much only a few consoles so I didn't grow up a PC gamer. I finally got my own really good gaming PC, so how do I become good at M+KB?
I would actually like to be good and play games online and I'm really excited for Quake Champions coming out. Also doesn't your hand get really fucked up or cramped from gaming all day long or how do you avoid that?

>>376075151
On the arrow keys

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>>376075121
They're both tools used to serve a purpose. In the right hands a controller can be just as good. The FPS genre isn't as twitch based anymore so controllers are a viable option for a lot of games. Especially ones that require you to drive a vehicle.

St. Johnson was based.

>>376075475
>so how do I become good at M+KB?
Practice.

Things you could practice is tracking, flicking and leading the target for projectile weapons.

You can download quakeworld and do the tutorials for rocket jumping, strafe jumping etc.

>doesn't your hand get really fucked up or cramped from gaming all day long or how do you avoid that?
No, just try to maintain good posture. Using M+KB is not any worse than a gamepad in my experience.

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>>376075743
ok cool thanks dude

>>376075353
Some kid called me a faggot in school because I told him Halo was better on PC. I tried explaining the benefits of online multiplayer, more maps, more vehicle options, and more weapons. He said I was lying and the whole thing didn't even exist.

A few years later he told me I was right and thanked me for introducing him to it. And it turned out he was really the one who liked dicks.

>>376075653
I'm talking purely FPS here, not vehicle driving.

Several developers have initially planned for console/PC cross platform compatibility but decided to scrap it during development because it simply wasn't fun for the console players.

I'm not in any way saying console gamers are worse players, it's just the input method that is suboptimal compared to M+KB.

There's a reason pretty much all console FPS have aim assist.

>>376074371
I miss having copious amounts of ammunition, to the point you could finish a mission with just your starting armaments.

>>376074073

Imagine playing something like Quake back in 96 and someone takes you forward through time to show you how gaming and shooters have evolved into 2017.

I'd fucking hang myself if I saw this.

>>376072372
>>376072372
lol he spawns right beside him

>>376076128
I never liked that reasoning for not having cross platform play. Play testers ruin everything, this is probably something else they're getting wrong.

>>376072225
If I recall correctly, the first two really popular FPSes - Wolfenstein 3d and Doom - did not even give you the option to mouseaim.
Quake could also be played with keyboard only, but it was shown that allowing you to aim with a mouse was much more powerful.

>>376072225
>Better
That part is objectively wrong.

>>376072773
Why was Hang Em High such a fun map to play on? I never even played Halo, but I played the shit out of this map all the time on custom Counter-Strike: Source servers back in the day.

>>376074706
It's not actually slow, walking speed in h5 is around 20mph and running speed is around 35mph.

Halo just has actually realistically sized environments.

>>376075039
Are you trying to imply the mouse is a two handed device? What the fuck are you doing? It is not hard to quickly press 4 keys with your non dominant hand.