So how many of you managed to defeat Desann on at least Jedi

It's pretty laughably easy. Every boss in the quake engine games are, with the exception of the baller in a golden robot suit.

Just use force speed and push the attack button

>>376061342
All those Jedi games on sale, which one is the best?

>>376061962

Outcast and Academy.

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>>376061342

>Beat his ass
>oh but in the cut scene he beats you and tricks you into thinking he killed your space Asian waifu

Ohh Kyle

Shit thread, I'm taking it over.

I just started KOTOR2 and having some visual bugs with models. I downloaded the restoration mod from the steam workshop, but I read online that it was already patched into the Steam version of the game?

Should I uninstall that mod and start again

I just got Jedi Academy from the steam sale and when I try helpusobi 1 and g_saberrralisticcombat 2, neither work? What gives?

>>376062378

Is Kyle the most based Jedi?

>Found the Valley of the jedi
>Beats a good amount of dark jedi before he even meets Luke
>Fucks Dark Troopers up
>Bangs a Rebel chick who always vouches for you
>Literally just an on and off again jedi
>Treats the force like a tool
>can use force lighting
>When he has to train a new apprentices gets a cool one and a shitty one
>shitty one almost falls to the dark side while the cool one actually does shit
>You teach the cool one the powers of not giving a fuck when it comes to the force
>Not a mary sue since he did almost fall to the dark side and fell for Desanns plan
>Also got his ass beat for Jacen Solo

>>376062614
that might work out.

>>376062975
He also doesn't rely on the force. Take away the force, and most jedi's are just children.

This nigga was a 1-man strike team without it

>>376061342
I did but it took a shit ton of quick loading, there is like this one weird ass frame where he is able to get basically 1 shot with a red style + wiggle

>buying games from defunct developers
Also this sale is significantly more expensive than it had been in previous years.

>>376063587
That's how steam sales have been for the last 2 years.

I keep hearing 'ummm dey aren't getting wors, u just got errything u want already'
but no. the sales are just getting worse

>>376062975
>lists a bunch of mary sue reasons
>"he is not a mary sue"
every time

>>376062975
Wasnt he also Mara Jades teacher for a bit?

>>376062907

I noticed that shit stopped working as well. Regardless anon I would suggest getting a mod for Academy called Movie Battles II. Decent community and it's a good bit of fun.

Video Related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktmx5BNkTSM

>>376064218
Not that anon, but he didnt claim he wasnt a Mary Sue. Also Mary Sues can be enjoyable, Geralt or Dante for example.

>>376064436
>but he didnt claim he wasnt a Mary Sue
He literally types "Not a mary sue"

>>376063246
I've never understood why people hate the early pre-force/lightsaber levels of Outcast. Not only does it prove (once again) that Kyle's a boss even without his powers, but it gave you just enough time in the game without Jedi powers that it's significantly more special when you do obtain them. Not to mention it supports the narrative, which is IMO one of the most flawlessly executed and underrated Star Wars stories ever (At least normie underrated).

>>376064569
Well fuck me, I completely skimmed over that part. Either way my point still stands.

>>376064859
They aren't very good gameplay-wise. You shoot a bunch of dumb stormtroopers and then some bugs.

>>376062614
>KOTOR2 and having some visual bugs
This happened to me with KotoR 1, but all i did is mess with some options on the shadows and it was fixed.

>>376064859
>>376065045
Agreed, the first time it's good because like you said it's a lot more special and you feel more powerful. But the shooting is pretty meh, the hit detection always felt a little whack, I even like shooting more in Dark Forces 2.

Isn't this one of those games where you have a defective lightsaber that hits like a wet noodle?

>>376064859

Replayed the game a few months ago. The shooting is average as fuck without forcepowers, but holy fuck the level design is fucking god-tier. The first level is half-life in star wars.

force speed
heavy style

gg ez no re

>>376065045
Except there's plenty of neat platforming, puzzles, the atmosphere is solid. And I dunno, it seems I'm weird, but I always really enjoyed the feel of shooting in Outcast.

That being said, its been years since I've played the game on lower than Jedi Master difficulty, so maybe that's why I enjoy those initial levels more gameplay-wise (Post-first playthrough). The gunplay is a very different experience on the higher difficulties. You really have to utilise the level design to its maximum potential so you don't run out of ammo, ensure you get easy free stealth kills where possible, and always know where you can backtrack to when you're overwhelmed and need more time/space to pick off troopers.
In contrast lightsaber play is pretty much exactly the same, except when you get hit you get hit harder, but the gunplay is absolutely a much more strategic and different experience on those higher difficulties.

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>>376065814

>being a scrub

>>376064859
I recently did a no lightsaber playthrough and it works better than you might think.

With some force powers, it's a very solid, above average shooter

>>376065931
I only ever played JO on JM.
>You really have to utilise the level design to its maximum potential
That's a very elaborate wording for "charge dick pistol - peak out - shoot stormtrooper in the head - strafe back into cover".

Sometimes they rush you though, so you spam E11 or throw thermal dets.

>imperial commando
>rebel agent
>mercenary
>jedi knight
>rebel commander and jedi
>dark jedi
>mercenary again
>become jedi again
>jedi master

He's done alot

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>>376066027

>tfw shoot rockets at a reborn from three different angles with force speed

>tfw you were moving so fast that they all hit at the same time so when he pushes one away, the other 2 hit him in the back

>>376066027
I think many people seem to misunderstand Nar Shaddaa entirely. The amount of times I see people complaining about how you "finally get a lightsaber and then they throw snipers everywhere, miles away, some in unreachable locations", except, that's the entire point. The level design and enemy placement is there to remind you (After your fun bar slaughter) that hey, sometimes a specific gun in certain situations is still the best option. Nar Shaddaa is one of the easiest levels in the game once you simply just use your own sniper rifle and pick off all the rodian snipers.

It sets a precedence, like using the DEMP2/Rockets on droids, or the fact that whenever you come down an elevator into a pack of enemies it's generally far more effective to throw a Grenade or pump out the FC-1's secondary attack a few times. Of course you don't have to, Jedi Outcast is wonderful in that respect that aside from when you're 100% forced to play a certain way (Which isn't too often beyond that first few levels), you can win with almost any strategy. However there's definitely plenty of times I can see the developers design minds behind enemy placement and certain weapon choices etc.

>>376066118
>That's a very elaborate wording for "charge dick pistol - peak out - shoot stormtrooper in the head - strafe back into cover".
Well that's just one part of utilising the level design, there's more to it than that. But yes, as far as 'Stealth Kills' go, I can't argue, that's pretty much all it is, but I still find that enjoyable.

>>376067331
>as far as 'Stealth Kills' go
It's not even about stealth, if enemy stormtroopers can't rush you (like, they stand on a platform) they won't strafe or anything, they'll just stand and shoot.
>Nar Shaddaa is one of the easiest levels in the game
>if you miss the location of the sniper or the shot you die in one hit
Hmmm.

>>376061342
Why would people be unable to beat a boss that can literally be one shot on the highest difficulty?

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>>376061342
>one-hit killed him with heavy stance as he jumped up to where I was standing
IT'S OVER, DESANN!

>>376062232
>>376061962
Don't buy academy. They released source code.

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>>376061342
>fighting with desann for the first time
>casually use pull on him mid-air out of the habit, since i kept doing it on normal troopers to make them fly high
>it works
>he flies past me and crashes into a pillar
>he dies

>>376061342
I beat this nigga on the Gamecube when i was 14.

>>376065987
that's the point

it's ez

>>376068570
Force jump + pull are the most op force powers in Academy and Outcast. Not even lighting is so strong. Also
>grip lvl 3
>start choking enemy
>Immediately move camera up and release them to throw them into air.
Or even better
>move them over the ledge and wait for enemy jedi/sith/dark jedi to force push you in order to free themselves
>they fall into abyss or lava.

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>>376069634
>That moment when you catch a jedi with force choke while they are in mid air OVER A FUCKING PIT/LEDGE

>you will never get a PC exclusive Jedi Knight game tailored to the intricacies of the mouse and keyboard ever again

thanks consoles

>>376069889
You're never going to get a jedi knight game again either faggot

Are the Jedi knight games fun enough to be worth playing even if you don't particularly care about star wars as a franchise?

>>376070143
yes the lightsaber combat is great

So how about a Jedi knight game with some sort of the for honor "art of battle" combat system?

>>376070143
They are jarring to get into but if you give them time they really open up. For saber combat anyway. Shooter gameplay is shitty

>>376064330
>Movie Battles II
Can you play this stuff single player?

>>376064289
Not really. They basically mentored each other.

>kotor 3 canceled
>Imperial Commando canceled
>Star Wars galaxies replaced with Tor
>next Jedi Knight canceled
>next lego clone wars with remaining seasons and episodes canceled
>clone wars tv show canceled
>empire at war 2 never ever
>galactic battlegrounds 2 never ever
>battlefront 3 canceled when was almost made
>pod racer 2 never ever
>sequels to the rest old games never ever
>Even fucking TFU 3 canceled

How do I get out of this timeline. >>376070613
Wait for kotf.

>>376061342
Try beating Kyle in Jedi Academy without any cheats.

>>376064859
I liked them, as I really appreciated the power growth as the game went on. It seemed like problem was it just went on and on for what seemed like forever before you finally got your saber. Once you got it, they were throwing force points at you left and right. Really felt like you should've gotten it soon and scaled slower. I haven't played since '05 so my memory could be fuzzy.

Is it me or do none of the cheats work in the latest steam version of Jedi Academy?

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>tfw can't get into KOTR because the gameplay is shit

>>376070996
Lucasarts was going to shit anyways after the movies. AotC-RotS was the golden age with stuff like BF 1 and 2, KOTOR, Commando, and the Jedi Knight games.
The only real problem is that EA is shit-tier publisher making by-the-numbers stuff and the old Bioware that made KOTOR and Jade Empire is gone.
I hate that they re-made Battlefront and named it fucking Battlefront, as if the original never existed. Then Battlefron 2, as if Battlefront 2 isn't the better option compared to the new Battlefronts. Just wait until we get a shitty Witcher knock-off KOTOR remake.

>>376065689
No, the light saber was pretty deadly if used right. Even a few instant-kill moves if your opponent (ai or human in multiplayer) doesn't have high shields.

>>376071389
It's literally do nothing: the combat
As long as you understand character creation and progression the game practically plays itself.
I guess you need flashy shit to keep your attention for more than five seconds you fucking scumbag.

>>376061342

what's the best starwars game, if you haven't played any starwars games ever?
shit is on steam sale right now.

>>376071662
jedi academy and jedi outcast

>>376071883
should i buy it?

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>>376072127
>buying games

>>376071883

and everyone hypes Battlefront II
, what about this?

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>>376071438

>tfw we'll never get some big-ass Academy/Outcast type games with the nu-battlefront graphics and shooting

>>376072340
dude, i have no problem, buying a game for 2,49€

>>376071593

>It's literally do nothing: the combat
>As long as you understand character creation and progression the game practically plays itself.

I'm sorry, were you actually trying to defend it or attack it there?

>>376061342
Seriously? I was baffled by how easy he was.

>>376061342
Plenty of times. Also killed his ass with the Bryar one time but it took 3 hours of attempts until his AI decided to not Force Pull it out of my hands.

>>376072127
>>376072348
waiting for this 2 answers.

seriously consider to get them, but I'm pretty drunk right now..
so...
jedi academy
jedi outcast
Battlefront II

...worth it for 7,50 bucks for 3 games??

>>376071593
>It's literally do nothing: the combat
sounds like shitty gameplay to me

>>376073225
Video games are for children.

>>376072543
Did you play on Jedi Master? He gets level 4 Force Push/Pull, he can drag you all over the map.

I love how JA/JO had hidden fourth level for a lot of powers. I know you can access Level 4 Mind Trick through console, lets you play as the character you "trick", even if it's a rancor.

>>376071593
>It's literally do nothing: the combat
>As long as you understand character creation and progression the game practically plays itself.
>I guess you need flashy shit to keep your attention for more than five seconds you fucking scumbag.

Are you bipolar?

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Post your face when you find out you can make the pillars collapse on top of him and insta kill him

>>376068362
It's like $2 jesus christ

>>376062907
I had to edit dismemberment chances in the enemy character files for it to work.

I wasn't playing without that shit.

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>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who unironically use red in duels

>>376068362
? That doesn't change the fact you still need the assets for the game to function

OpenJK and JK2MV (both born from the source code release of JK2/JKA) are only clients that fix bugs/provide some quality of life enhancements (like alt tab)

>>376074382
It's literally freeware.

>>376075286
so i guess the art of the red style has been lost in the last 14 years then. fucking plebs can't master the best style

>>376076552
no its not. the engine is.
/v/tards everywhere

>>376064859
The mining level is a confusing mess the first time I went through it and got lost a lot. Nar Shaddaa immediately after retrieving the lightsaber and force jumps is a really big open area that can confuse you as to where you're actually intended to go.

Other than that it's all great.

>>376064859
it would be fine if the aiming wasn't fucking dumb. it was always shit how it auto aimed for you

I went into first person mode and used the slowest/most powerful. It was so sick.

Both have great campaigns even with the first person only levels in outcast, replayed it recently and i enjoyed them though. I really hated the fucking acid rain in bast castle in academy though. It just felt unncessary but going on a mission with kyle was cool

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Are there any good singleplayer mods you guys could recommend me?

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>>376061342
I did. It did take a lot of deaths to achieve it, but I managed.

>>376064859
There was something very clunky and off about the guns in Outcast, I can't exactly pin point it. I'm used to strafing a lot in vidya and I'm a pretty good aim, but in Outcast the fucking E-11 blaster fire swerves as you're moving around and never hits your target missing 90% of the shots. I have to stand and aim and hope that 1 laser gets in from 3 shots or get extremely close and unload and take damage while doing so in both of those scenarios which just made gunplay an overall pain in the ass. It just doesn't make fucking sense.

Funny how immediately when I started playing Jedi Academy I had NO trouble whatsoever with the guns and more times than not opted to using the E-11 and Bowcaster more times than the lightsaber. There is just something fucked about Outcast's gunplay. The gun levels is shit faggot.

>>376073225
anyone????

>>376061962
The original

>>376064859
Because we already did that shit in Jedi Knight.

>>376079958
asking again:
HEY GUYS!!!
i never played a starWars game...
is
jedi academy
jedi outcast
Battlefront II
worth it for 7,50 bucks for all??

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