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How did we go from this...
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>>376049563
to this?
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TO THIS
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when is this shit even coming out. feels like the campaign was ages ago
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too white obviously
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>>376049872
2018 backer preview soon.
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>>376049614
I dont know what about this exactly makes me uneasy. Its too clean? Too regal? I can't pinpoint exactly but nothing about this design feels right.
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>>376049563
>>376049614
Is the shading actually gone or is that just for the model sheet?

Because that's a really bad choice if so.
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>>376050130
He looks tired. The crest on his hat also makes him look like a firefighter.
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>>376049563
>>376049614

>Okay, so we've got this swarthy, blonde Spanish dude, right? He's this sweet combination of Conquistador and Cowboy with a revolver rifle
>Let's make him black, get rid of the Conquistador angle - hold up, let's get rid of the cowboy angle too, and add a bit of Fireman to his big hat

>>376050130
The second design is soulless and has no direction, Original Vasco's got clear themes going on while the other's just a guy with clothes.
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>>376049614
>>376050130
>>376050253
he reminds me too much of that nigger from fallout 4 who wouldn't shut the fuck up about settlements that need help
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>>376050202
The shading is still in the game, model sheets never get shading as far as I know.

https://labzerogames.com/indivisble-4-21-2017-update-backer-preview-news/
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>>376050387
>>376050253
Its so busy and conflicting, why does he have kingdom hearts ass shoes. Im too tired for this shit.
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>>376050553

Because the original art was obviously worse! I mean, look at his pale skin and blonde hair, and that highly problematic Spanish/Cowboy look that suggests Imperialism!

This game is a game of diversity and inclusion!
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>>376049614
BLACKED
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>>376049614
Reminds me of calarts for some reason. That's a bad thing.
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>>376049614
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As long as they don't touch Nuna then I don't give a fuck
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>>376051125
kek
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>>376049614
The eyes look stupid and his shit is retarded. Nigga looks straight out of Class of 3000
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>>376049614
>We redesigned Vasco!
>and by redesign I mean that we removed all of his defining characteristics and made him bland and stupid looking
you can't see his eyes anymore. He went from glaring cowquistador to nothing.
>and we made him black
that's also some pretty blatant pandering and I'm the last person to call that stuff out
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>>376049614
>WE CONQUERED THE AMERICAZ N SHIET
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lab zero with the top tier bait

get fucked stormfags
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>>376049563
>>376049614

What the fuck kind of character is Vasco now? His first bit of art clearly labels him ranged support.
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>>376052538
he's a guy with a gun
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>>376052643

And that's all he is, now. Seriously, what encouraged them to downgrade a design they already had ready to go?
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>>376049563
Give OG the new hair (or at least the beard) and make it blonde and it's perfect (to me.) The beard looks a lot more conquistador-y, but that's about it.

>>376051125
10/10
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>>376052726
if you really want to get serious with this, you should go read their post about it

https://labzerogames.com/indivisible-5-3-2017-update-vasco-model-sheet/
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>>376052538
What little lore they had written out for him is completely off now
>fucked off from the army because he didn't want to waste bullets on civilians
>became a merc because he still loved money and still loves shooting things
now he's just some fancy looking grandpa with the world's worst hat
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>>376050130
Its the pose and proportions. Look how skinny he is, it makes it look like he has a teenage girls body. The trenchcoat and pauldrons are supposed to accentuate a stable "A"-shape, but then they posed his arms and legs into a submissive position. The result is his a-shape turning into a bunch of curves with accentuated hips and chest. Its clearly the silhouette of a girl with a mans face attached to it.
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>>376050690
>Cowboy look that suggests Imperialism!
>Cowboy
>Imperialism
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Who cares about a shit game anyways? I feel like everyone suddenly started caring because he went from white to black. Classic /v/
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>>376053232
A good amount of people are looking forward to the game, and the reason why people are mostly talking about Vasco at the moment is because he's the most recent bit of news we have.
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>>376049614
Am I the only one that sees this?
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>>376052921
>no comments to avoid criticism
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>376051213
Pedo detected
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>>376049614
Normally I don't give a shit about them changing skin colors of characters, but do they really have to make the actual character design hot garbage? What's even the reason for changing his skill color and design? Answer: None
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>>376053748
https://twitter.com/IndivisibleRPG/status/859844297293668352
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>>376050130
Shitty pose, weird gun, blandly coloured clothing that doesn't look like anything in particular.
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>>376052921
>A black musketeer with a gunblade makes more sense than a conquistador with a cowboy hat.
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>>376049614
>>376052921
>>376053610
>we felt that a basketball player tall, nigger pimp was a good fit for a moral-less, greedy and honor-less gun-using mercenary
Is Lab Zero racist?
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>>376049563
>>376049614
kek
>people gave them money
KEK
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>>376052437
It's not just racists who dislike this change you spear-chucking nigger, it's people who are capable of realizing that this is an objectively inferior design.
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>we want the steven universe audience
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>>376054435
How diverse and progressive!
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>>376054435
I can see Pearl when I look at nuVasco
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>>376054386
>objectively inferior design.

>old design
>machinegun ammo belts for a revolver gun
>combining armored characters with cowboys who hate armor
>rifle is a revolver even though it's retarded
>backstory says he's a gun mod master but his gun is retarded
>chose conquistador boots over fucking easily more recognizable cowboy boots
>cowboys had native american hippy sleeves
>combining cowboys and conquistadors at all when they have nothing in common
even if it is objectively better, it's still retarded
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>>376054435
>>376049614
>>376049563

It's kind of funny, if you showed an actual Spaniard this sort of character, they'd rightfully call him a monkey, and go back to Latin America.

Sounds like this is the kind of character design made in California or something.
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This game gets worse every time they release something new.
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>>376054876
Didnt start very great either
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>design is worse
>turns out to be the most bro character in the game
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>>376054965
nigga it started out better than just about any other crowdfunded game. They actually gave a competent, working demo instead of empty promises.
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>>376054984
>the only times he opens his eyes is when he does it with a scary murder face
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>>376054984
>>376055414
What are the odds he's going to be like that, tho
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>>376055414
>chill, Morgan Freeman-ish old man personality.
>becomes rape incarnate when pissed
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>>376054435
>shorter than a white girl
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>>376054435
What happened to the shading!? The sharp angular character features!? They ruined it!
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>>376055715
the shading layer is separate. It's just how they do their shit.
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>>376049563
>ready to fuck some shit up
>>376049614
>contemplating last moments before committing suicide
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>>376055715
it's model sheet art for getting things like heights right

that's why they have neutral poses

pic related is what happens when you don't have model sheets
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>>376055715
See: >>376050408
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>>376055968
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>>376049563
>>376049614
>completely abandoned the original design's perfectly good yellow/grey color palette for no reason, replaced it with ugly salmon-colored blandness
>the redesign's facial expressions seems to convey an entirely different personality
Changing the character's race is the least of the issues here, it's hard to believe these were even meant to be the same character.
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>>376055968
Well the first version is her with her enhancements. The 4th one is probably the canon size
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>>376052437
i masturbated to this and because it was on my phone i came on the whole post so technically i came on you

what do you think about that dude
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>>376050130
its a nigger, ITS A FUCKING NIGGER WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
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>>376056226
sounds pretty gay dude
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/lzg/ defense force activate
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>>376056226
that's not how it works
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>>376049614
WHIPPERSNAPPPER
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>>376056360
/pol/ aside, they took one of the two white male characters, and made him black, and completely fucked his design.

Can't wait to see what they do to St.George.

But at this point I don't even care. They already ruined my favorite companion design, the game is basically dead to me. Only person I care about now is Ajna, and they'll probably fuck up her transformation too.
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>>376056419
Go defend them on /vg/.
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>>376056429
yes it is dude i got cum all over your text and there's nothing you can do about

i came on you
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>>376049614
NOSOTROS
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>>376056758
ERAMOS
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>>376053192
>those shoes
>those hips
>those shoulders
>girly
Even if it was, the most important thing about silhouettes is uniqueness which it did right

Old Vasco's silhouette would get confused with Zebei if you couldn't see their heads
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>>376056791
CONQUISTADORES
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>>376056813
>Old Vasco's silhouette would get confused with Zebei if you couldn't see their heads

And if you had your eyes closed, surely.
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>>376056791

LOS DIABLOS DE LA MUERTE
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>>376054435
At least post the updated version
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>>376054435

Man I would be really pissed if I was a backer
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>>376056942
The only things that sets old Vasco's silhouette apart from Dhar's and Zebei is their hat.

You're the blind one here.
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>>376057149
Not even a backer, and I'm pissed. Fucking blastoise pirate bitch.
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>>376057138
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>>376057197
And the sleeves, and the boots, and the weapon, and the hat.
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>>376056991
FIDEO
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>>376057332
>weapons are the silhouette
>and another hat
Are you stupid?

>the boots
They all had pointy feet.
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>>376057138
oh god my balls
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>>376057679
>If you don't count everything that makes the silouette different then they're totally the same

Are you stupid?
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>>376053232
The BLACKED treatment is the last of the problems here.
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>>376057779
Weapons aren't usually part of silhouettes you fucking retard.
What you want to with silhouettes is not have them differentiated by just a few, small differences but with a bunch of big differences.
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>>376049614
Looks like a bad webcomic background character.
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>>376055590
>>376054984
This is my fetish.
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>>376049614
why do the cylinder grooves disappear when he's facing away
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>>376054435
theis looks like something ripped straight out of overwatch
who finds this incoherent shit appealing
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>>376049614
not even bioware tries this hard for brownie points
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>>376058792
>overwatch roster
>incoherent
Is traveling around a world a new concept to you?
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>>376049614
>anotha settlement needs your help
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>>376054435
>Romanian Female
>English Female
>Japanese Male
>Indian Male
>Non existant Male (lets make a character with white male features but give him dark skin and psuedo oriental clothes to appear less white male)
>Vietnamese Female
>Persian Male
>Chinese Female
>Russian Female
>African Male

0 Americans
0 Oceanics
0 Mediterraneans

I wouldn't bother to much with the demographic choices since the character designs in this pic look like total crap anyway, and I have no idea what game this is, and I will never buy or play it anyway.

Well, the indian dude looks kinda ok.
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>>376059481
>Zebei
>Japanese
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>>376059221
where on that map do purple-haired giantesses and black cowboys hail from?
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>>376054435
>>we want the steven universe audience

>ruin not-pearl design
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>>376059775
Southern California, Austin, and New York.
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>>376059775
>New Vasco is a supposed to be a cowboy
retard alert
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>>376055968
>>376056119

i like SU but goddammit, Sucrose needs to whip those damn story boarders
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>>376049614
Okay, so this is supposed to be some sort of guy from Portugal or something? Why is he black? People from Portugal aren't black as far as I know, maybe tanned at most, and even if he was inspired by people from Brazil, why not just name him Joao or something like that so it made more sense? I'm so confused at everything.
Also, holy crap this guy looks like ass, maybe it's the lack of shading but he looks like the sort of shitty boring character you'd see on a show like Steven Universe or some other current Cartoon Network show.
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what did they mean by this
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>>376060245
Fake news.
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>>376060165
They just wanted a bearded veteran with a gun

They don't give a shit about anything else anymore. Show me a cowboy that decided to attach a sword to their pistols
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>>376060165
They don't give a fuck and are just tossing literal brownie points into the game for an extra Patreon dollar.
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>>376060165
they did to bait retarded /pol/tards
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Why the hell they made the so early campaign if they didn't finalize all the other character designs?
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>>376059481
>>Russian Female
>0 Mediterraneans
Overwatchcuck detected
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>>376060457
because concepts can change??
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TO THIS
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>>376060457
the campaign so early*

Fuck
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>>376049563
>>376049614
It's alright. I don't have a problem with either design. The gunblade-style bayonet is a little silly, but so are the bandoliers on the original.

Still looking forward to this game.
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>>376056360
>its a nigger
nope
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>>376053207
the spanish conquistador part retard
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I think the second design is pretty cool. Maybe not as a replacement to the first, but on it's own I like it. Has a fantasy nobleman thing going on.
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>>376060165
Some people tan more than others. Especially old sailors and outdoorsmen can get a dark, leathery complexion after years and years in the sun. And Spain and Portugal are also just across the sea from Morocco, so it's not impossible that he could be part-Moor as well.

I think people in this thread are just getting mad because they like to rage at silly things.
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I didn't like the original design anyway
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>>376060143
maybe they should give him a decent design then
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>>376060731
Holy shit, he looks cool.
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>>376061118
Faggot.
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>Cowboys

Responsible for genociding a whole native population

>Conqusitadors

Responsible of genociding a whole native people


Hmmmm, i wonder why they changed the character.

Dumbasses....
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>>376060731
this is correct
I don't want fucking hipsters from america teaching my history to me
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>>376060731
he looks like some serious haitian fuck now, kek
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>>376060883
Alright, that's a decent explanation/theory, and people tend to go berserk at the dumbest things, I just hope his personality can win me over, because that look ain't doing anything for me.
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>>376054821
But who would care about a spaniard thinks?
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>>376060731
actually looks pretty nice
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>>376061412
>New Englanders were cowboys
>cow
>boys
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>>376061669
Right. I mean, it's a promotional concept vs a model reference, and we haven't heard a word out of his character yet, so I just don't think there's enough information available for such strong opinions.

Remember when everyone was shitting on Zarya for being SJW bait, and then she ended up being one of the coolest characters in the cast?
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>>376060883
i dont like the design because the original was clearly a ranged character and this new guy has that stupid bayonet
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>>376054435
>when will they learn
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>>376060883
There was no moor conquistadores.
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Where can I se the old designs? I remember some of them were pretty nice.
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>>376062463
That's why I said part-Moor. His grandpa could have fucked a Moroccan woman and that's why he's a little darker than everyone else. I don't even think it's a significant issue but if you absolutely need a reason why his skin is darker there's one for you.
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>>376049563
>people here saying /v/ always liked Vasco's old design
Then why did this come from here?
Checkmate, shitlords.
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>>376049614
this new red mage concept art has really gone down hill
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>>376062631
Its more like people are talking about how shit the new design is. Only the biggest of autistic would save or make that picture.
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>>376062602
I still have the unedited version of this in my image folder somewhere but I can't be arsed to find it.
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>>376062903
the old design is literally the OP you fucking retard
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>>376062631
I always liked him.
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>>376063037
They better not touch Ren
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>>376049614
This is literally Blackwashing. Where is the outrage????
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>>376059481
Zebei is mongolian, Shredder is a girl, and the Amazoness is supposed to be greek.
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>>376063521
>Where is the outrage????
>>376054046
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I bet they changed the entire design to try and distract from the fact that they changed his skin color.
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>>376061412
can you tell me what a cowboy is and does, and when the concept originated
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>>376063037
spotted the pedo
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>>376059910
What did he mean by this?
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>>376060731
Damn, he actually looks pretty badass as a black guy now.
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>>376063820
>Native Americans love nature = grass
>Cows eat grass aka genocide
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>>376058172
>Weapons aren't usually part of silhouettes you fucking retard.
Funny you cherrypicked an example from Valve, retard. Here's another example taken straight from the same company's workshop page.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb/9334-YDXV-8590/dota-2-workshop-character-art-guide

Next time make sure you know what you're talking about before you open your stupid mouth and making an idiot of yourself, dumbass. Kill yourself
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>>376064398
>monster silhouettes
nice example
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>>376064398
>moba silhouettes
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>>376064480
>get btfo by clear-cut example
>say some more stupid shit

Nice retardation
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>>376063037
Wait.
Why the fuck did they turn Vasco into a black duelist/rapier guy when they already had a fucking black duelist/rapier guy?
What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>376064872
>What the fuck were they thinking?

What makes you think they were thinking?
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>>376054435
Yeah that.
That honestly does seem to be the approach they are going for.
Gross
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>>376064398
>dota
>another game that lets you change weapons
>a game where no one ever sheathes their weapons anyways
The keyword is usually
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>>376058172
any recognizable aspect of a character is incorporated for the purposes of ensuring readability
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>>376062463
There were black conquistadors, or at least black people who went to american following conquistador but thats besides the point.

What sucks about Vasco is that they didn't just redesign the character, it's a completely different character on a basic design value.

OG Vasco was angular while new Vasco is soft & round.
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>>376054435
Mario looks pretty disproportionate, Qadira looks generic as fuck due to the fucked removing EVERY detail from her original design, Blastoise looks like a mishmash and is honestly ugly and Phoebe wants to be Zarya.
Vasco's new design is genuinely shit, it conveys nothing and lacks direction, plus he looks bored himself. The fact that this replaces a pointy cowboy armed to the teeth is aggravating.

I'm pretty worried about the other incarnations.
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>>376058172

>weapons aren't part of silhouettes
>picks TF2 silhouettes, where every class carries their weapons in a distinct manner that makes it easier to identify them
>compare Soldier's shoulder swagger to Demo's lower arm cradle to Heavy's super low carry to Sniper/Spy/Pyro/Scout's more upright carries, etc
>even side arms have different silhouettes so you know reactively that the Sniper is using his SMG out of desperation, a smaller weapon held close to the chest awkwardly with both hands, vs his sniper rifle, which extends further out as an explicit danger

full retard, my man.
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>>376064398
>DotA
>Character named Axe
>Some cosmetics give him swords
Yes, weapons are so important in silhouettes amirite
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>>376054435
New Vasco aside, I think pirate chick is easily the worst design in there
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she's cut
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>>376054435
pirate looks like shit here, but there is a gif where she looks a lot better
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>>376065342
>TF2 characters have weapons on at all times
have you seen those animated shorts?
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>>376065557
I guess they don't want to get sued by Disney
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>>376065585
the shorts were never relevant to the character's designs.
Newsflash, the characters were design around gameplay, and then personalities built around that.
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>>376054815
>combining cowboys and conquistadors at all when they have nothing in common

Both braved through "untamed" wild and dangerous badlands and both are easily characterized as greedy people who are in for the riches.
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>>376065342

Yes, but that's just a strength of the overall good silhouette work that they're recognizable with and without weapons. The primary silhouette work was still for the original videogame, after all, where 9.9/10 of the time the weapons would be prominently displayed.
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>>376065732
>cows
>untamed wild
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>>376065457
Makes sense since both "Vasco" (may as well give him a different name now) and the Pirate chick are the only ones who got a redesign, the others just lost detail.
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>>376049563
>>376049614
>A cool and gruff looking cowboy who uses a rifle. Has an intimidating, serious face and his design has a few Portuguese elements
>To a "le classy" aristocrat with an over-sized bayonet on a revolver
This is absolutely unforgivable. Vasco was the one design I really liked. Fuck you Mike Z
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>>376065095
>the original weapon iconic to a character that he/she was designed with d-doesn't count!
>th-they don't sheathe their weapon! S-so somehow th-this means it don't count in the character design!
you sound like a kid desperate to make excuses to not look stupid

>The keyword is usually
Oh so you can choose when it's convenient for your argument that a silhouette doesn't or does have weapons. Nice nonsense argument.
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Like, why even call him Vasco?

>>376065818
You know very well that when people speak about Cowboys they generally mean the people living in the archetypical wild west, not just ranchers.
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>>376065452
>Optional cosmetics are part of a character's original character design!!!!

You are fucking stupid
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>>376065878
The post that started this reply chain was never about the weapon you fucking faggot
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>>376065981
>I got btfo because I didn't know what I was talking about regarding character silhouettes
>I know, I'll just convenient veer back to the original topic of the thread!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Seeya idiot
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Why call him Vasco?

Just call him Reeves or whatever.

It's clearly a completely different character.

He doesn't even fit the "Stone heart with a vein of gold" archetype.

He is not the gruff rough dude but an old tired vet.
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>>376066132
>complain about the new design's silhouette
>say nothing about the weapon
>it was about how girly his silhouette was because only girls can be skinny
>now sperging about weapons in silhouettes for no reason
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>>376065884
>why even call him Vasco?
No reason now.
To be fair though, original design had little of conquistador too, feel more knight/cowboy, he should have the classic morion instead
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>>376049563
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>>376066312
>>now sperging about weapons in silhouettes for no reason
>no reason
>when it was clear your faggot-ass or some other faggot-ass brought up the claim about weapons not counting in a character silhouette

Hahahahahaha what a fucking idiot
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>>376066679
Her design is literally incapable of getting worse.
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>>376049614
THEY TURNED HIM INTO A FUCKING NIGGER
WHY
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>>376066679
KAMPAN ARMS ARENT BLUE
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>>376066891
in memory of the kind old nigger that got killed by that crazy shooter nigger the other week
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>>376065963
Kill yourself retard
Is written on the workshop page
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>>376049614
WE WUZ COWBOYS 'N SHEEEIT
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>>376067057
they were though, idiot

also, the new design isn't supposed to be a cowboy at all
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>>376067012
RIP KIND OLD NIGGER THAT GOT KILLED BY THAT CRAZY SHOOTER NIGGER THE OTHER WEEK
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>>376065342
God I love TF2's art design
Every time I pop into a tf2 thread on /v/ and I see some schmuck post his gaudy, whorish, paint-addled loadout I shed a tear.
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>>376066679
I'm okay with this.
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>>376065862
>this was somehow Mike Z's fault
He's not the art director, Evaxephon.
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>>376067042
>Doesn't specify what exactly he's referring to that is "written"
>Doesn't post any source
>Calls someone else a retard instead of looking in a mirror
Simply stupid
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>>376067012
fuck that guy's chicken nuggets
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>>376050387
Dunno, the original felt more cowboy than conquistador while the 2nd one feels more conquistador than cowboy to me. I can see the base elements in both but I have no clue why they seemed to have flipped the whole design around.
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>>376067746
Mmmmh where this "thing" could be?

Go and search it on the workshop faggot
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>>376068002
>cowboy without the cowboy boots
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>>376050130
stupid gun sword, he looks like someones gentle old grandpa, the clothing is absurdly bland, his legs are too thin and he just has nothing going for him at all
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>>376051125
WE
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>>376049563
>>376049614
Other than the blackwash, what's with the complete change of artstyle? Holy shit.
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>>376058172
>Be retard know-it-all
>Try to talk about something he actually knows nothing about
Here's the real silhouette sheet from Valve's own documentation that clearly shows this -fucking- retard doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about

When you're ignorant about a topic, you should just shut the fuck up
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>>376068242
>gentle
>eccentric ass colors
>fancy clothes

>>376068338
OP is an illustration
there's only model sheet quality pics of the new design
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>>376049614
On one hand I kind of like the idea of a classy, old cowboy, but on the other hand that design looks way too relaxed. He looks more like an NPC you'd see as a chill bartender. The top design is more standard, but it fits the role much better. That revolver sword pretty fucking dumb too. It'd be much better as a revolver dagger, "quickly stab and shoot in the wound" is more sensible "swing and then shoot."
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>>376068113
I think it's the hat that makes me think cowboy in the first one but in the 2nd one, the hat gets that metal bit in front making me think helmet so I focus more on the armor on his chest. I completely neglected to look at the shoes until you pointed it out.
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>>376068012
>still doesn't post source
>still doesn't say what "written" thing he's referring to

Hey sure bro, I mean, your imaginary argument is totally valid lul
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>>376068374
again, the keyword is usually you nitpicking little bitch
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>>376068583
"usually", based on what, your own opinion?

Where do you get this "usually" standard or guidline? Is there some kind of written law of video game character design somewhere that says "character designs usually have no weapons"? You can't even post any kind of proof of source that proves you didn't totally make that shit up and the one image you posted, I disproved.

So your "Usually" has no meaning. It's just something you added there to cover your bases in case someone like me or >>376064398 or >>376065342 comes around to prove you wrong.
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>>376049614
That's awful, he looks like a fusion between easy pete and sir hammerlock
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>>376069138
The main point is that good silhouettes are usually defined by MANY things and not usually one small thing like weapons where in certain genres, like RPGS and shooters, characters usually are able to change weapons.
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>>376069719
What bothers me is the shoes make him look as if he's actually wearing sneakers and that makes him look silly as fuck
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>>376060883
North Africans are not black. Even sailors with deep tans don't have that complexion. Quite frankly, if this is their notion if a typical Portuguese, I find it actually somewhat racist. Not to mention mixing up Portuguese and the Spanish like they're the same.
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>>376070328
His name is Vasco, but i don't believe they ever thought him as specifically portuguese.

The specific Conquistador reference to him puts him as Hispanic not a Lusophone.
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>>376070567
Which is still mixing them up, since Vasco is primarily a Portuguese name, and I'll bet you they got it from Vasco da Gama.
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>>376070754
I agree.

But i feel like you can argue that there were spanish people named Vasco

In fact heres a conquistador

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasco_N%C3%BA%C3%B1ez_de_Balboa
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>>376066143
Vasco's just a name.

This new design is now "Vasco." The old design is a nobody.
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>>376070920
That's a good find, sounds like a very plausible source of inspiration.
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>>376071097
>The old design is a nobody.
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>>376060731
That is actually better than the original. The dark skin works well with the color of his clothes, though I'm not sure if the white hair is better than blond.
>>
>>376070920
>>376070754
Vasco is a iberian name, is more asociated with Portugal because Vasco de Gama, but is also used in Spain after all Basque Country in spanish is Pais Vasco.
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>>376069953
>The main point is that good silhouettes are usually defined by MANY things and not usually one small thing like weapons where in certain genres, like RPGS and shooters, characters usually are able to change weapons.
This wasn't the point of the post we replied to

>Weapons aren't usually part of silhouettes you fucking retard.
THIS is what you originally said and you're trying to dishonestly spin it into a more general statement (that is still slightly incorrect) because your original statement had no basis at all and made no sense

But thanks for admitting that weapons -are- part of the character silhouette and proving yourself wrong. That's all I needed to see. Good riddance and I hope you aren't like this in real life because -no one- is going to take you seriously.
>>
I wanna play a mod for Sunset riders with old Vasco in it.
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>>376071097
New Vasco doesn't sound like a Vasco.

From da Gama to Balboa, Vascos are known greedy violent explorers.
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>>376071559
I want to play an Indivisible Mod with Cormano in it.

The best Sunset Riders
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>>376071690
That pancho isn't nearly pink enough to be Cormano
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>>376071489
The name comes from Velasco, if behindthename.com has any credibility.
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>>376071539
>This wasn't the point of the post we replied to
try reading the whole thing before you start nitpicking little things like you usually do you usual faggot
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>>376056685
Ajna's Heruka form already had a model sheet, so that's probably not changing much.

And I actually like the new Baozhai. Have you seen any of the animations?
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>>376071750
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>>376068327
WUZ
>>
>Giving money to kike Z
>ever

lmaoing at your faces ladss
>>
>fucking SJWs should stop ruining our games and make their own
>wait no, no not like that, stop it
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>>376071912
That's the stuff.
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>>376072079
>promises something when asking for money on kikestarter
>gets the money
>proceeds to change everything

hmmm...
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>>376072306
the real lesson here that you faggots fail to learn OVER AND OVER AND OVER again, is to NEVER, -EVER- support a Kickstarter game
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>>376072306
>>376072486
well it's a good thing that it's on indiegogo where you're allowed to refund if you want
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>>376071912
>>376071690
>that one moment where Cormano gets the new sombrero

Sunset Riders best Run 'N' Gun.
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>>376073023
*Metal Slug

Sunset Riders is fantastic, though.
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>>376072306
>proceeds to change everything

oh, did the devs also changed all of the gameplay and plot from what was promised in the KS pitch?
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>>376071945
CONQUISTADORS
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>>376049563
>>376049614
Pure speculation, but I think it's because the roster is smaller now.
Since they decided to focus on a final playable roster of 25, that meant some less popular characters were going to get cut, even if their playstyle/archetype was unique.

So instead, of doing that, it looks like they just shuffled and merged aspects of the less popular characters into new designs. For all we know, New George might end up with the old Vasco's hair and use Hassam's flamethrower.
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>>376049614
looks like a steven universe character
and i dont mean that design wise i mean coloring/body/face shape and expression all look like a fucking generic calarts cartoon

i cant be the only one who sees that right?
>>
every character in this game looks liek absolute garbage this one just looks more
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>>376074730
>every character in this game looks liek absolute garbage
That's where you're wrong.
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>>376063037
>Ren not best
Homo detected.
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>>376074365
it's model sheet art
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>>376074812
how am I supposed to jerk off when she got a damn tiger head lookin at me
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>>376074812
now post her shitty sprite art
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>>376075168

>>376075267
>shitty sprite art
>implying
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>>376075267
you can see the gameplay clip right there before your post >>376074878
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>>376075409
she is cute
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>>376074101
The new concept has nothing of Conquistador/Cowboy, if anything, is a musketeer
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