Was he right?

Of course he wasn't.

No.

char is always wrong

I fapped to art of him fucking Akechi and I feel disgusting

It's that kamiya

What was he even planning on doing after becoming prime minister?

I don't get why it was worth Joker going to juvi for months to get him incarcerated. He's had a change of heart and is now an honest man. Even if he somehow ended up as PM it's probably better than any other option.

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RIVER IN A DRY LAAAAAAND

Do you get to the cloud district very often?

>>376010457
Was it the same actor?

>>376010424
ah^~ ii ssu ne~

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>>376009627

>>376010390
Unironically this

A literal guaranteed moralfag in the most important political position in their country. But no, they have to send him to jail so some worthless politician takes over (just because Shido was a dick didn't make him wrong about some of the problems plaguing Japan)

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He's /ourguy/

>>376009627
You gonna sauce that art or what

>>376010663

>guranteed moralfag as leader
>he lets in refugees into Japan because it's the right thing to do

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>>376009473
>All the bald guys are evil
>It's actually a nod to YHVH
Truly the SMT of Persona.

>>376010797
Fuck I didn't think about that

>>376010882
fat dude wasn't evil, just blackmailed

>>376009473
about what?

everything he said to the public is a lie.

he just wants to steer the country like a ship.

he's not like Armstrong who has a goal. he's just a liar

>>376011154
just like trump

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Close your eyes

For a biologist he's very dumb

A RIVER IN A DRY LAND

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>>376011196

>>376011154
Steer it to the a better direction. Sure his methods were unethical but information manipulation is a common sight in politic world. He sacrificed a few for a greater good.

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Would you?

>>376009473
He would have been if he was serious about the whole deal. Instead it was his excuse for making whatever he wanted to. Too bad, it would have been a good "bad guy" otherwise.

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>>376011873
>mfw I learn it's "A heartbeat for a tin man" and not "a heartbeat for a demon"
I like my version better...

>>376009473
lol is that kamiya ???

>>376012732
I thought it was either "i'm hunting for demons" or "i'm haunted by a demon"

>>376012086
*steer it into a direction he believes is better

In actuality the direction he wants to take the country is pure shit, with himself at the top and fuck everyone ele.

>>376009473
No but I still liked him. Charmstrong a best.

>>376010390
It was a necessary step to get Joker cleared of his charges and just because he feels bad about his crimes doesn't make him less of a murderer

>>376012825
>>376012732
I thought the tin man bit was because shido was a fake piece of shit.

>>376012086
Remember why his palace was what it was. The characters even comment on it.

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>>376010971
How about this handsome fellow?

>>376012732
A river in a dry land/a heartbeat for a tin man is like a single drop of hope in a sea of despair, which is what the songs about.

>>376013050
Don't worry you'll do his palace in Crimson

>>376013112
>Akechi campaign confirmed

>>376010971
>Kingpin wasn't evil

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>>376013050
He just wanted to help, he did nothing wrong

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>>376013367
You killed Wesley?

>>376013306
It'd actually be a good idea, a part of the metavere survived somehow and Akechi too, and your team + Akechi trying to redeem himself with a working wild card this time and the friends use the metaverse to change the heart of the ones "judging" Joker. P5 says that they didn't want to let him go until heavy public protests, so it would be easy to pu a new palace here. Well, it kinda ruins the whole "you can change the world without superpowers" though.

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>>376013306
PLEASE

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>>376013582
Wow that's pretty gay

>>376013508
Who cares about lessons and story when we can get more gameplay.

And not I'm not memeing I really don't care about the integrity of the story if we get another cool dungeon.

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I just want Atlus to join modern times and release all the story additions and gameplay improvements via dlc instead of forcing me to rebuy the entire game in 4-5 years.

>>376013679
I don't know man, after how shitty shido's was and how boring the depths were, I don't think I could take another dungeon.

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No, but he was.

Why was every big plot twist in this game literally muh family?

>shido is akechi's father
>sae is makoto's sister
>sojiro is futaba' "father"
>burger president is Haru's father
>madarame is Yusuke's "father"

>>376013854
>Shido
>bad
I'll never get this. The only annoying part was the first room as a mouse because a shadow was just in front of the goddamn vent but that's about it, everything else was fast enough even when you fought absolutely everything.
Also the boss marathon at the end was great.

I wish memento depths had more of its floor puzzles though.

>>376013679
What other thief themed dungeons could we have?

>>376014043
because they needed a way to tie everything together.
Except for futaba which is more or less legit, it really sounds like this for most of these.
>"DAMN WE HAVE TO INTRODUCE HARU AND GIVE A REASON FOR AKECHI TO BE A VICTIM WHAT SHOULD WE DO"

Although it works well with the idea of absolute authority too. In this case parental authority which is very big in Japan. With Sojiro being the counter-example showing that not all of them are assholes.

>>376013854
Shidos boat ride was my favorite dungeon.

>Big sprawling puzzle rooms
>Hanging out with shitty effin adults in between
>Cool main theme
>No dungeon break
>Dat boss rush in the engine room
>Akechi's feakout
>Dat last fight with Shido
>Shido's last gambit

Felt like a proper SMT bullshit dungeon.

>>376010161
To use Psyience to make Japan more powerful on the global stage, through murder and causing scandals.

>>376009473
fuck no. he was a Power hungry obssesiv asshole.

had none of the charms Armstrong had

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>>376013639
Just for you anon kun

>>376014092
An auction
A museum
A mansion
An actual palace
A graveyard
A concert

>>376014432
Well, it's really more "he ones I find useful in Japan" than anything else though, he'd help you if you can bring him/bring "to the country" (read:him again) something but almost everyone else was fine just dying under the flood outside.

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YOU CANT HURT ME JOKER

>>376014594
the museum was already done though.
An actual open-air palace would have been nice. themed in a pickpocket-style thing.

>>376014043
>sae is makoto's sister
how was this a plot twist when they call themselves "Sae Niijima" and "Makoto Niijima" literally the second you meet them.

>>376014647
Every boss in the game was disappointingly easy.

I remember dying tons of times to the 8-bit boss in P4. P5 bosses are a joke, but some of the enemy encounters are real bullshit

>>376014615
>Armstrong
>People will determine their worth in the new America based on their strength
>Shido
>People will determine their worth in the new Japan based on their usefulness

I mean Armstrong is just idealizing what is essentially the same thing as Shido's proposing. Its like seeing everything through the eyes of a chaosfag.

>>376014851
Every boss in p4 was easy. Persona games aren't difficult.

>>376014851
Its just you. P4 was not my first SMT game so I can tell you it's just as easy if not easier.

>>376014647
PLAYED COLLEGE BALL YOU KNOW

>>376013050
What a bizarrely pointless character.

>>376014851
The other anon is right, you just got better at the games. That really does happen with SMT in large part because you learn how to use the fusion system properly which most new comers are overwhelmed by. You also know the games tricks so you know to be prepared. As soon as I get a demon with tetraja in any SMT game I always use them

>>376014851

Its easy because you have experience. I remmeber playing p3 years ago and I kept orpheus throughout because muh canon. Also I only hung out with party members.

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>>376009473
What happened to Akechi-kun? Shido and him were going to get rid of the evil phantom thieves...

>>376012575
Any guy saying the shit Shido does is only interested in the power, even if they believe they aren't. It's one thing about him that's pretty accurate.

>>376014914
It's not their usefulness. That'd be yamato from D2 and Yamato is VERY different, a random normalfag could rule everything if he had the power to. To Shido, it's the usefulness of the person TO HIM. It's quite different.

>>376014647
>biggest pussy conniving weasel in the game turns into 1v1mefaggot: the boss

this made zero sense

>>376015926
Want something done, gotta do it yourself.

I don't even know what his political ideology was. All I understood was that he wanted to use the metaverse to make Japan more powerful/influential.

>>376015926

Congitive Psience, son

>>376015926
It was his shadow.

The dude in real life just tried to temporarily kill himself.

I wish the ending and writing was better. 3 and 4 had such a great payoff at the end, but it just felt so limp and hacked together here. I dont know if the localization was whack but i feel like there was a bunch of lines i had to stop and reread to understand and even then i forgot them shortly after. Its such a shame because this game is cooler thematically but the way its themes are handled feel both juvenile and like theres a lack of surprise in the story events

>>376015926
It's all about how he sees himself in the metaverse

>>376016285
I really liked the Igor twist, but Akechi was too obvious too early

>>376016285
3 and 4 were just as terrible (Izanami is a great example), the thing is, since P5 is more down-te-earth it has more potential and you expect a storytelling that doesn't ends up in "and then the gas station attendant was a goddess. Beause it had more potential and tried to relate to the real world somehow and not just through philosophical themes it is also easier to be more harsh with it.

>>376016547
Akechi wasn't supposed to be a twist though, the fact that Akechi isn't the twist but everything was staged was supposed to be the twist, It did an ok job with this one.Although the missing pieces of memory are also a dead giveway for this one.

>>376016547

The twist wasnt that Akechi was the traitor. The twist was everyone knew.

If I remember correctly akechi was revealed as the traitor at the beginning of the game.

There was a scene where akechi is asking sae out to sushi to celebrate the capture of the phantom theirvs

>>376010673
Now I cant unsee this

>>376009473
He is a leader with a sense of humor
fish

>>376016967
This was already during te flashback IIRC. Akechi just asked for sushis because Sae called him for his opinion about the mental breakdowns.