>this kills the AMDfag

>>376007641
I got AMD and it pisses me off cause sometimes a game will just choose to launch with my integrated card instead and AMD just refuses to run unless I restart the computer.

>>376007641
JUST

>970 mexican meme edition can get 60+ in 1440p

whoa .. so this .. is the... power of using a proven engine instead of a frankenegine trainwreck, whoa. hope your learned your fucking lesson arkane.

>>376007728
Why have the iGPU enabled at all?
Just toggle it off in BIOS and uninstall the drivers.
Or are you on a laptop with an APU or something?

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>>376007846
Those are all reference cards by the way.

>>376007728
>with my integrated card instead

disable that shit in bios. igpus reserve your memory. you probably have like 512mb of memory hardware reserved and dont even know it.

Why would anyone buy amd in 2017?

The 580 was supposed to kill the Nvidia but is literally only 2 (TWO) percent faster than the 1060 across a range of 27 games all released within the last 2 years and the regular 480 is now slower than the 1060. The 1060 6gb is also £10 cheaper than the cheapest 580 and the £480 8gb is the same price but slower so you're either paying a tenner more for 2% better performance and 20% worse power consumption or paying the same for worse.

Let's not forget that amd still doesn't have a 1070 competitor. The 1070 is the best price/perf card right now.

>>376007856
Laptop. Disabling it was one of the first things I did and it caused display on my second screen to stop.

>>376007949
Ignore the pound sign before the 480

>tfw you got your Gigabyte 1080 for 400 bux

Feels pretty good desu

>>376007954
Do you have it set to swap automatically or manually?
You can tell the driver to only use the dedicated card, AFAIK.
It's been a while since I had a laptop with a Radeon in it though.

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>>376008041
Fuck it, I'm finally buying a 4k monitor and maybe a 1080Ti
27'' or 32''?

>>376008046
Automatically I think. Not sure though. It works usually but sometimes the game will just go this time no.

>>376007949
Just Wait™ For Vega© bro
By the time that releases it's going to be 13 months of Pascal being on the market.
Say it's 10% faster, that's still a failure in my eyes. Been enjoying my 1080 since last June.

>>376008121
So set it to manual and select the dedicated card.
Power use will be higher when just idling though, which leads to lower battery life.
But you can always switch it back to automatic or just tell it to use the iGPU.

>>376008087

4k is a gimmick at the moment dude.
Not enough stuff supports it yet to make it worthwhile at the price you pay.
You're better off getting a 2k.

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>>376007641
NO NO NO NO NO
VEGA WILL FIX IT

>card is listed as supported on new driver specs
>installing new driver bricks the card
this has been going on for a year now. fuck amd

>>376008260
I beg to differ.
All that needs to be supported are games (and they are).
Performance is still a little wonky, but come Volta/Navi we are finally going to have enough power for smooth sailing at 4k, the 1080Ti can already do it most of the time on new AAA titles.
And I don't think the monitor prices are going to go down that much anymore.
So buying a 1440p screen now only to exchange it for 4k one in a year or two is kinda pointless IMO.
Monitor is something I usually buy for the next 4 or 5 years at least.

>>376008260
Listen to this guy, 4k is a meme get a 1440p screen with >60hz and idealy Gsync and you are golden.

why is this fuckin table upside down

I really wish AMD would get their shit together and actually provide intel and nvidia with real competition.

I feel like both have really been putting out shit lately but since AMD is still so far behind they can keep getting away with it. Kaby lake was was just a slightly overclocked Sky lake and don't get my started on nvidia with it's Titan X (Maxwell) -> GTX 1080 -> Titan X (Pascal) -> GTX 1080ti -> Titan Xp bullshit, oh that $1200 card we just put out well this $700 card is better than it, oh hey and now that you all got that $700 card there is another $1200 card that's better than that one, suckers oh and we intentionally made the names confusing on purpose because we can.

>>376008514
That would cost the same or even more than a 32'' 4k display.
I'm not exactly convinced.

>>376007949
The 5xx cards were never supposed to kill nvdia; it's vega that is supposed to step up

>>376008802
Still wouldn't stop Nvidia from gimping shit.

>>376009069
>this post is brought to you by /r/AMD

>>376008802
Ryzen is pretty good and competes well with Intel's shit

>>376007641
>vega leaks confirm their next "high-end" cards are just crappy gtx 1070s
lololololololololololololoooloo

>>376007641
>that gap between 470 and 480

Something is clearly fucked. It's not architecture because the 390 is in the right place relative to the 480 and it's not VRAM because the 3Gb 1060 is chugging along fine, as is the Fury X. Anyone know?

>>376008270
You better hope so, because companies without competition are really fucking shitty companies.
Just ask intel.

>>376009165
>Something is clearly fucked
Indeed. It's AMD.

>>376008802
They can compete with Intel but not Nvidia. With the cpu all they need is a solid piece of hardware and because these processor architectures last such a long time they can keep evolving the platform. Also Intel is hitting a brick wall in general because of natural limitations of cpu manufacturing processes.

With Nvidia they can release the best ever gpu but the software support isn't there till late on. Every time amd finally gets their drivers to make their gpu run equivalently to Nvidia the new gen comes out and then it's square one again. It's impossible for them to win unless they have as much money as Nvidia to invest in software. Nvidia doesn't even have a hardware scheduler but their software team works wonders. Remember when the 480 was like 15% better in hitman dx12 compared to the 480? Well a new driver patch came out for dx12 on Nvidia gpu which has closed the gap to within 5% and that's without a hardware scheduler and full compute support. Nvidia will always win until amd can beat them in software and that's why I'll always buy Nvidia. They're just better at what matters at the end of the day and amd is always playing catch up. My 1070 still has no rival.

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>game comes with free headset if you buy from newegg
>but only physical copies
NO IT'S NOT FAIR, WHY DIDN'T I INSTALL A DISC DRIVE!?

>>376007641
Damn 980 Ti is still holding up, fucking 90fps at 1440p

I won't upgrade until 1180 Ti or something

>>376009242
Compared to the 1060*

It doesn't make sense either, Cryengine should run better on AMD, CE3 is literally deigned to take advantage of AMD's better Compute

Has to be a driver issue

Why not include 570 and 580

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>>376009230
Nigga you know full well they're competitive 99% of the time. Not the issue.

And it's Cryengine, which AMD runs fine on. Unless they've bastardised it somehow.

AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

AYYMDPOORFAGS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>376007641
>32% difference between 1080 and 1080ti
Shit, if only my card died a year later.

>>376008170
>>376008270
>Multiple leaks show that Vega can only go toe to toe with GTX1070 at best

It's over, AMD is finished

>>376009135
It should be a bit better than 1080, but that's not good enough really

>>376009242
>They can compete with Intel
They really can't.
Ryzen is nice and all, but once again they are basing their competitivness on price.
Compare Ryzen core for core with Skylake/Kabylake and it's much slower.
All Intel really needs to do to get back into position of almost total dominance is increase core counts through their range, they already have the better CPU's and had since 2015.

>>376009230
>>376009224
These, AMD is like that dark horse you really want to win but on the day of the big race he face plants at the starting line.

>>376009445
Core for core it's pretty much bang-on Broadwell-E, it's only a few percent off current Intel offerings.

Plus, the 1700 flatout beats the 6900 while using less power to do it. It's pretty much killed off the top of Intel's consumer market, and IIRC their server chips are coming soon. Should be interesting.

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>>376009263
>put disc in drive
>it contains steam.msi and a txt file with your key

>>376009554
Skylake-X in 3 months, we'll see where ObsoleteZen will be then.

>>376009554
this

>>376009640
But without ryzen, it would be in 3 years.

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>>376009613
They're so fucking unaesthetic, I love my completely polished metal finish front but sometimes I wonder if I might really need one, one day. Which apparently I do.

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>>376009554
>flat-out beats
Kek lel

>>376009704
But now because of Ryzen, Skylake-X will be rushed and thus will be shit

>>376009760
Maybe.
Without competition, they just don't give a shit about power, just cost cutting and improving the NSA engine.

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>>376009721

My b, meant 1800x. Not that there's much of a difference aside from price.

>>376007641
27FPS on RX 460 with very high and 1440p. Damn I guess my R7 265 might still do the job. I wanted to nail it in the coffin after Dishonored 2.

>>376009721
Jeez, I didn't realize my 6700k had dropped so low.

>>376010007
Are you stupid
It's a fucking synthetic benchmark

>>376009710
Buy a $10 usb one?

>>376010107
Right, so it's basically garbage by now.

>Tfw poorfag
>Tfw still rocking an AMD HD6850

>>376010261
30FPS, 720p, low settings

if that's OK for you

>>376007846
What engine is Prey running on?

>>376010537

That's the way I played Witcher 3, but it was a good game so I tolerated it

>>376010587
Cryengine 3. Yes, 3. Really goddamn outdated at this point, no idea why they're using it.

>>376010587
CryEngine 5

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>>376007641
>GTX 1060 barely better than 970, worse than 980ti

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>>376010781
>Middle end card from next gen isn't as good as top end card from last gen
You're right, that is a puzzler.

>>376010781
and?
Thats exactly what its suppose to be

>>376010781
>RX 480 barely better than a 390, worse than a Fury X

This is stupid you sound

>>376010953
How stupid *

>>376010645
>>376010648
so which is it?

>>376011040
Its actually cry engine 7

>>376011040
Google says 3.

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>>376010912
>Fresh new card that runs everything 1080p@60fps is worse than years-old card

>>376007641
So does this game use DX11? I'm a AMDfag and I don't think there are any games out there where the RX480 performs better than 1060 and better NVIDIA cards in DX11, but I'm happy with my RX480 getting better performance in Total Warhammer in DX12 than a 1060 in either DX11 or DX12. That's pretty much all I play anyway.

>>376011258
Name 5 new games that don't use DX11

>>376011258
The 1060 in dx11 does better than the 480 in dx12. No reviewer seems to show this though

>>376007641
>implying I would care about cards today
All I need is 1080 performance at $250. Neither side has such a thing. So no one wins.

>>376007641
>tfw 1060 6GB
best bang for the buck tbqh

>>376011314
I mean exclusively. If the game allows you to use DX12 then the cards should be compared while running in their "preferred" mode.

>>376011368
>The 1060 in dx11 does better than the 480 in dx12
I highly doubt that, because then there would be no point in having an AMD card.

>>376011465
There's already no point in having an AMD card. Nvidia's been sitting on a fucking unofficial monopoly for years

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>>376011465
>because then there would be no point in having an AMD card.

>>376011465
http://www.pcgamer.com/total-war-warhammer-dx12-boost-for-amd-still-cant-match-nvidias-dx11-performance/

The latest dx12 driver from Nvidia also increased performance in dx12 games like hitman by 23% (!). But yeah in general Nvidia cards in dx11 mode do better than amd cards in dx12 mode except for the odd case here or there. Bf1 is a good example of this.

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>>376011526
>There's already no point in having an AMD card.
Then why is my RX480 superior to 1060 when playing the 2016 GOTY?

>>376011671
Which AMD marketing too- I mean game are you playing good sir?

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>>376011671
>Why is my 400 euroburger card better than a mid-range 200 euroburger card

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>>376011813
I'm referring to this same article this >>376011668
anon is referring to. Maybe I'm retarded, but I fail to see how I'm not right.

>>376011837
They're both 200 bux, you poopoohead.

>>376011931
No?

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>nvidia shills
>2017

>>376011951
Where the fuck do you live, nigger? Both reference cards are 200 bux, maybe you're comparing the different aftermarket variants, but not even the ASUS STRIX RX 480 8GB costs 400 fucking Euro.

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>>376011965
Y-you tell him AMDbro, j-just wait for Vega

>>376011890
Its already been stated. Back then it was margin of error stuff literally 1.8 frames difference. Nvidia cards have gained 20% performance in dx12 titles ever since. You do the math.

>>376011965
How many upboats did you get for this from /r/AMD?
Did they offer you a discretionary waiting coupon?

>>376012037
Leaks show that Vega only matches up to GTX 1070 at best.

>>376012061
>Nvidia cards have gained 20% performance in dx12 titles ever since.
Then where the fuck are the benchmarks? Bench me Warhams with a reference 1060 6GB outperforming the reference RX480 8GB and I'll admit you're right. It's not like I'm even arguing, I'm just not good with computers and prefer to see actual bench graphs.

>>376011965
Well 4gb is a result of 3.5+5 unless math has changed in the last couple of days I've been out of college. Also I fail to see how this makes it a bad card. Everyone I've spoken too who owns one says it's a brilliant gpu for the price.

>>376012203
>Everyone I've spoken too who owns one says it's a brilliant gpu for the price.
Until you run out of VRAM

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It's going to get a Vulkan patch just like nu-Doom.

Nvidia shills went very quiet about Doom after that patch.

>>376009356
The install base is small and 470/480 performance is broadly indicative of 5xx series performance anyway.

>>376009352
AMD actually just released a new driver today that improves Prey performance by around 5%

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>>376012241
Like this?
Curious that nothing bad happened right?

>>376012241
Any 4gb gpu will have the same problem though so you can say that for any similar gpu.

>>376012247
>directx game
>vulkan patch

Are you this uneducated or are you just severely retarded?

>>376012150
How the fuck is this bad? Nobody buys AMD stuff to get the absolute best GPU or CPU. People buy AMD stuff for cost efficiency. If Vega is more cost efficient than a 1070 then I would buy Vega and ignore NVIDIA stuff.

>>376010261
HD5750 here, get on my level.

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>>376008260

4k is not a gimmick. There's a lot of detail at maximum settings that gets lost in even 1440p. I own both a 1440p monitor and a 4k tv. 4k, espectially at larger sizes, provides much more detail than you think. You either don't own a 4k pannel or haven't spent enough time with one.

That being said, for games I definitely prefer a higher framerate.

>>376008260
4k60fps is very tangible and doable atm. It's the enthusiast tier for gaming sure but that's always existed. If you have the money to invest go for it. Playing BF1 at 4k and the game is genuinely stop in your tracks beautiful.

>>376012525
Well he's an AMDrone, so take your pick.

>>376012560
So, what kind of job do you have to afford all of that

>>376012658
You'd think someone posting in a thread on this topic would know basic shit like that

>>376012525
>>376012658
>>376012795
https://www.cryengine.com/roadmap
>5.4
>Late May 2017
>Vulkan API
Who is the retard now?

>>376012527
>Wants to be 2nd best instead

That's what we call LOSERS

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>>376007641
>R6850 fag for 5 years now
kill me

REEEEE

I should have bought a 1080ti and not a 1080
40fps difference this is so unfair

>>376012815
To quote Black Mage:
Us, for hearing you talk.

>>376011040
>>376011105
>it's actually dependent on your processor

>>376012815
Do you really not know the difference between ogl and d3d? Holy fuck you're the most retarded person I've encountered in a long time.

It's almost like companies pay developers to optimise games for their cards so they can sell them.

>>376012815
>>376013009
To add to this, this game is using CE3 not CE5 you colossal retard.

>he can't even read numbers

The classic amd fanboy

>>376012815
You, for still not getting the point.
The engine may very well get Vulkan support eventually, but that tells us nothing about whether a game that only uses the DX path will support it post launch.
Do you know a lot of modern games that support both OGL and DX?

>>376007641
>>376007910
This is why I'll never buy a bigger monitor than 1080p. They just need to make a 120hz monitor with ah-IPS.

>>376012768

Been working as a cook for a few years. Was a given the 1440p panel as a gift a few years ago, and found a good deal on a 4k sony bravia when they were getting rid of their older 2015 models. 600$ for a 65 inch 4k hdr tv isn't bad at all. Just gotta find good deals, they're out there.

>>376008087
4k for those inches are a waste.

>>376013130
I respect your retarded decision.
>I will never buy a bigger monitor than 800x600, they just need to make a 15'' 80 Hz CRT one

>>376008087

32 inches is the smallest I would go for 4k

>>376013170
Not really, 27'' is kinda small that's true, but 32'' is pretty much the sweet spot.
It's a monitor, not a TV you sit 2 meters away from.

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>>376007641

>Have a 1080 since July of last year, update drivers in Nov. now I am waiting for Win10 creators update before I install the latest drivers.

>>376013197
Enjoy your console fps i guess

>>376013314
>console fps
Anon not everyone has a potato tier GPU.

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>>376012973
>>376013009
>>376013106
>>376013108
AMD is using Prey to market their new GPU that's releasing in June. Do you honestly believe it's going to remain a DX11 game?

>>376013606
Yes

>>376013606
Because I actually understand how api's and engines work, yes.

PC hardware fanboys might be just as bad if not worse than the console war shitposters.

>>376008121
This shit happens on Nvidia laptops too, retard. You absolutely have to do manual for 100% consistency on using the dedicated GPU. This is like the #1 known issue with gaming laptops.

>>376013852
I have never seen an Intel or Nvidia fanboy though. I'm sure they exist but never seen one on here, even though the majority seem to use Nvidia.

>>376014191
Majority use Nvidia because they have no choice and many of them are AMDfags ready to jump back to Red camp when Vega finally comes out

>>376014463
>many of them are AMDfags ready to jump back to Red camp when Vega finally comes out
Raja approved this answer.

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>>376014463
>AMDfags ready to jump back to Red camp when Vega finally comes out

>>376008087
For 2160p you really want a 38-48" display.
Its worth it if you want to replace a multi-display setup with a single big screen.
Very worth it if you have a couch in the same room as your computer since it also lets it function for console gaming and movies.

Dear imagination technologies, could you please get down from the pile of mobile GPU cash you're on, and make us an high end modern PowerVR card please?

>>376014463
>Majority use Nvidia because they have no choice
Even if I'd have a choice I'd still have gone with nvidia after the shitshow I've had with AMD drivers on linux.

>>376009242
also, they already released a HBM2 card a year ago.

Spoiler alert: it is not cheap

>>376013740
Vulkan is very similar to the low level APIs used on modern consoles since they're all Mantle based.
DX11 is the odd API out now as its high level, and has a very non-standard workflow even compared to other high level graphics APIs.

>>376014958
>hardware never goes down in price
>even if production ramps up

Plus, realize with a pro card you're mostly paying for pro level tech support, the hardware is not most of that cost.

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>>376009445
>Compare Ryzen core for core with Skylake/Kabylake and it's much slower

Dude what?. They are pretty even at gaming after like 5 or 6 performance updates

>>376015231
They'll be even once more games support multicore as well as BF1 does.

>>376011965
The human eye cant see beyond 3.5 GB of textures.

>>376010645
>if you have the original Prey on steam you have to change the exe name or else it will conflict with the new isntall
>the new game runs on an outdated bloated piece of shit that manages to be worse than its previous iteration
>instead of a proven engine that not only looks great but runs well on the shittiest hardware, AND is made by one of Bethesda's subsidiaries, saving money on licensing
Bethesda just can't escape their legacy of incompetence can they?

>>376009224
I still suspect Intel allows AMD to exist for the sake of avoiding anti-monopoly action.

>>376016284
That's pretty much a given.
Otherwise they would have bought AMD by now.

>>376007949
>The 580 was supposed to kill the Nvidia
How? Its literally a 480 with a higher factory clock.

>>376009379
for the 4th time in four years. how can this keep happening.

>>376016284
If Intel actually felt threatened by AMD they could just half the price of x99, eat the loss with virtually no impact on their profits, and laugh as AMD burns.

>>376016284
nah, its a mutual feeding each other

AMD has the license to x64
Intel has the license to x86

>>376013138
I tried googling which chef gets that much money and all i can find is a guide on how to be a gigantic lying faggot

>>376013358
You need a 1080 to hit 120fps ish at 2k and a ti to hit 4k 80ish
It's not worth the 1k usd or whatever those cards sit at right now, plus the price of the monitor tbqh
Theres also a flood of shitty ports locked to 60fps as well and we all know higher fps > higher res

>>376016284
Even still Intel were at the mercy of anti-trust probes.
They only managed to escape action against them by convincing us that ARM and Samsung were a threat to them in their mobile holdings market.

They are not as free as you think.

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>>376007641
>1440p