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I'm level 41 questing in the snowy area. I don't have the expansion, so what should I do when I hit 50? also where can I get the class gear set?
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No Heavensward? Probably nothing but level other classes. I think the content at that level is dead. I think people are only doing it unsynced level 60, so Party Finder is no go. And I don't think people are using Duty Finder for it. But on the off chance there's even just a couple of people, maybe you can do the Lv50 content as a healer/tank, otherwise queues might be horrible especially for DPS class.

Either way at 50 just grind poetics until you can get a full i130 set (should be easy) while leveling other classes you want. Get the items from Rowena, both the i120 armor pieces and the items needed to upgrade them (carbon whatever stuff). Always weapon first.

If you want to try queueing for content or making your own party finder or something or if you somehow manage to find a cool FC that'd do it at Lv50 with you, then: Once you have at least i120 start doing all the lv50 content (coils and primals).

If you aren't gonna get the expac at all tho, I'd just keep leveling other classes, started with one in each role.
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>>376006467
i think you're locked to 50 without the expansion, unless you plan to buy heavensward real soon you could use this time to level up some other classes that seem fun
buying stormblood without heavensward will give you the heavensward expansion iirc so it might be worthwhile for you to wait

you get your job gear from the 45 and 50 quests for your class
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>>376006467
If you plan to buy the expansion, you should do it now.
There's 100+ MSQ after you finish the fist quests of ARR and beat Ultima that you'll need to do before reaching HW but you'll still be able to level up more with them.
When I reached HW I was level 56.

>where can I get the class gear set?
AF1? You get it by finishing your job quest lvl 45 and 50, it's Ilvl90.

Though after reaching 50 you'll slowly work on getting Poetics (a new currency for lvl 50 stuff) that will let you buy the Ironworks gear set ilvl120.
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DRK is fun but damn do I suck at it.
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Elezen are the best
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stop playing WHM
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>underwater part of the zone is separated from surface

Yoshi managed to impress me again.
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>>376007238
ps3-er ps4 limitations goyim
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>>376006869
>>376006878
>>376006906
yeah no heavensward, just the base game. I'll get stormblood once that comes out tho. I've used the dungeon finder/duty finder for group content so far and it works, so idk about it being dead
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https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=62715690

WoL going in PotD with the Scions and Estinien.
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>>376007639
>Estinien doesn't have drills
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*blocks your path*
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>>376007623
I think you need Heavensward to get to Stormblood
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>>376007879
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When is Gaius coming back?
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>>376007927
yeah but stormblood comes with heavensward included so if I just wait a month I'll get access to it then. I can fuck around in the base game until then.
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>>376007639

what do the squiggly lines say
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>>376008125
post your character
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>>376008148
The WoL wants Black Pegasus so he invited some Estienien, Alphinaud, and Yshtola to go to PotD with him.

Didn't read further because shit's getting gay as fuck.
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>>376008161
It's just a midget with random dungeon items. I don't have any screenshots
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>>376007623
I meant endgame content, ie raids and extreme primals. You can easily get groups still for leveling up dungeons and main story trials.
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>>376008285
>lala
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>>376008358
yeah t b h I'm probably going to change the race, can't see shit with this one. tho it is kinda fun to be a little ball with daggers equipped
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>>376008525
the shortness of them was a pain in the ass purely because of the camera, one of the main reasons i chose elezen
it's only really an issue with lalas because of how much smaller they are compared to everyone else
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>>376008679
I was thinking just rolling hyur highlander
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>>376008816
as long as you're not a cat all is fine, being a cat will just get you constantly lumped into the crowd of idiots and annoying bastards that play them
it isn't fun
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>>376007879
>tfw still haven't found a party that can reach tethers
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>>376009432
How can a datacenter playerbase be THIS bad? Oh wait, pretty much everyone who cared about it was already done with it anyway. My condolence.
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>>376009432
That's the story of EU.

God this datacenter sucks.
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I need your best MCH guides. My dps on it is currently abysmal, df shitter level.
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>>376009905
30 seconds.
Wildfire.
Buffs.
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>>376009905
take off GB if no ogcds is up
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>>376007238
I kept telling you fags that's how shitty the "swimming" shit was going to be from the moment they announced it.
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>>376009984
Please, I already know from the get-go that's it's going to be flying, but underwater.
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>>376007238
What do you mean separated? I thought they removed zones in SB. Was I goyed?
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>>376010090
>thought they removed zones in SB
What? They never stated this. They just said that Kugane is going to be one big city and not separated into 2 zones like Ishgard.
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>when you wanted comfy ARR zones except without loading screens between them
>we're getting HW 'biome in a bowl' dogshit again
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>>376009784
>Getting an all French/German party with Kinna weapons
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>>376010451
salut
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>>376010451
>tfw never ever had Padjal or Kinna weapon in my inventory ever

Couldn't fathom doing potd enough time to get to +99
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>>376007238
lies. they promised there would be no loading time/zone seperation. They said it would be seamless.
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>>376008125
There's a ton of required level 50 quests before even reaching heavenward that barely give any xp so you might as well do them while waiting for storm blood
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>>376011308
Weren't we supposed to get A' B' and C'?
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>>376011308
>cup noodle shilling in the blogpost

Top kek.
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How would you change Cleric Stance if you were in charge?

>make CNJ, ACN and AST damage skills scale off max(INT,MND)
>turn Cleric Stance into a cooldown that acts like Berserk/Dissipation hybrid, that increases your attack power by 50%, but reduces healing potency by 50% for a set duration
>while I'm at it maybe make Cure/Physick a bit stronger to use by INT builds
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>>376011035
Is that what Kinna is from? So they're like shitter marks? Lmao
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>>376011469
I'd have to make a macro telling the dps I popped cleric stance don't be retarded for 20 seconds or you'll die oh and the tank better not get hurt either
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>>376011698
They are, but also the easiest way for new players to get something decent.
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>>376011736
>AST/WHM can throw regen for that time
>SCH has fairies
>you can always heal through with that -50%, or just click it off earlier
get good shitter
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>>376011757
Do you have to be 60 to progress towards the weapons? Or is it from points you accumulate ever since starting the PoTD? Never done PotD tbqh and know nothing about it except it's useful for DPS who don't have roulette or rested bonus.
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>>376011818
>WHM can waste MP
lolno
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>>376011828
Nope you get points in the dungeon towards the level 60 weapon even if you are only level 1 outside. You just can't equip it without being level 60 outside.
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>>376011757
its a dayum shame most of them suck while just a few are actually pretty decent, too bad relic will always be both the ultimate casual grindfest AND BiS for far too many classes
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>>376011698
GENERALLY skill level goes like
Alexander pieces (any) > Zurvan weap > Sophia weap > Diabolic pieces > Relic > Kinna weap > Full Shire
So for example, if you see someone rocking Kinna weapon and some Alex accesories or boots, he's playing an alt class.

this of course has exceptions, I had a ninja with Alex weapon in my farm yesterday who did half damage of my friends alt with a fucking Sophia Book

>>376011828
Nah, you can buy them as long as you cleared floor 100 iirc.
Don't need a single 60 to buy them.
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>>376011818
If you're forced to click it off then you'll lose dps for however long the CD is. Cleric stance is fine as a toggle stance to avoid this.
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>>376012163
It's "too punishing" right now, which is why shitters have the dumb "should healer DPS" arguments.
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>>376011818
you cant click cleric stance off
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>1 farthing
>3 pennies
>15 shillings
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>>376012331
>reading comprehension
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>>376012071
>tfw drk relic zurvan axe and sofa blm rod
>tfw cleared 12s once and then static disbanded from drama and I'll never have my dickwaving torso now
I bet the jews did this
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>>376012538
Tell me more about the drama.
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>>376012983
You're lucky I'm drinking nigger
It didn't even start in 14 it started in a different game thanks to thirsty beta cucks erping with eachother and people choosing "waifus" and then fighting over them, this grew more and mroe intense and spilled over into other games, this got even more hilarious when the token actual girl hooked up with someone and shit got crazy, I did my best to keep everyone together along with the one nigga dating the grill and we managed to keep enough people around to clear the raids and tool my drk to 270 and war to 269, didn't last much after that as people's butthurt started to actually show and linkshells fractured and the FC we founded as a friendly group fell apart, it really makes me sad because it was such a fun time before
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>>376006957
Stick with it and read up on openers/rotations. It's a little awkward at first but fuck that job is so fun once everything clicks.
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Who else /waitingforstormbloodtodoSavageAlexanderbecauseofhigheritemlevel/ here?
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>>376013521
Nope. Cleared a12s on day one cause i'm not a casual faggot.
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>Additionally, sprint will no longer consume TP. Tanks and melee DPS will be able to more easily use sprint in raids.

YES
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Skill speed is more important than crit for brd, right?
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Let's talk about 24mans. Why has Mhach been such a disappointment compared to CT? Especially dun scaith, CoD was a much better boss than Diabolos 2 hollow boogaloo. Will Ivalice be better?
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>>376011757
Doing Sophia EX is easier than grinding PoTD.
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>>376014054
I liked weeping city, mostly because of Ozma. I agree that CT as a whole is far better, though.
I honestly don't know what to expect from Ivalice other than gear sets based on FFT jobs. There is very little information about ot, but I guess it's better this way. Low expectations usually leads to pleasant surprises (or at least just minor disappointments).
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>>376014391
Braindead grinding is always easier than anything with "extreme" on its name because that is enough to scare casuals away.
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>>376013715
This hints that future boss mechanics will rely on sprint to dodge mechanics. Can't wait to see people die to stupid shit because "oops I'm a new/returning player I didn't know xD"
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>>376014539
it will also trivialize any content thats not tuned for sprint
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>>376014054
I just wish 24 mans didnt take so long

why would you make something we have to do regularly week to week take like an hour to do
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>>376013521
there'll be no one to do it with by then, because the non faggots will be doing the current raid
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>>376014651
>an hour

What kind of shit pubs do you run with senpai
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>>376014624
Old content not tuned for this is going to be trivialized anyways thanks to unsync mode and bloated item level amounts.
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Who here made his own crafting Ironworks set?
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>tfw so little info about the expansion so I can't decide whether to prepare for it or not
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>>376014624
It will also make speed running through dungeons faster.
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>>376014651
>an hour
I hope you are including tank queue times with it.
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>>376012071
>Kinna weap > Full Shire
Oh, you're THAT autist.
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>>376014728
>What kind of shit pubs do you run with senpai
EU ones, mostly likely.
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>>376014794
If you plan to play RDM or SAM, you had months to prepare already.
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>>376006467
Stop with the blatant xiv threads with a retarded question you can google.
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>>376013715
>two more levels of speed
>TWO

fucking about time, isnt my chocobo professionally trained by this point in the game? he learned to fly for fucks sake
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>Aside from new black mage spells, I wanted to let you know that cleric stance is [Message deleted by some unseen force...] and esuna has [Message deleted by some unseen force...]!
If they remove cleric stance I'll fucking trash my healer, mark my words.
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How much you bet Stormblood will introduce an au ra loli with a exact copy of wondrous tails except you have to do everything in minimum item level mode
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>>376015446
That would be pretty neat desu
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>>376015329
They're just generic healer skills now instead of white mage ones. Leeches and whatever astro's is called were cut. They already said they were doing it with rampart and shadowskin since having the exact same skill with different names was pointless.
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What is WHM good for?

WHM is shit. Don't play as WHM.
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>>376014823
Full Shire is the absolute mark of shitter.
You spend so much time getting it and still can't even do A9S?

Not that it's even an excuse. You can wear some diabolic pieces to get better stats than just full shire. It means that you have no idea how to play your class.
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>>376015446
sounds like a good idea on paper but terrible in practice. imagine doing minimum ilvl Titan with your average PF player today. Lots of fucking wipes because people are used to skipping mechanics rather than seeing them.

The rewards better be fully worth it if you want people to suffer like relics.
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>>376015567

I'm really sad that my favourite job is represented by a female potato. Couldn't it be an inoffensive Hyur? Or even a giraffe? Nope, it's a potato.
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>>376015857
How about not being a sperg for once?
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>>376014769
I finished the carbonweave set and gave up. I just don't care. Scrips killed my interest for DoH shit.
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>>376015857
My favorite job is represented by a gay catboy who takes it up the ass, but you don't see me complaining
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>>376015446
And instead of telling stories to her loli friend she will tell them to her horse husband.
Also looking forward for a new custom deliveries with a xaela NPC that will flirt with you until max rank, then you will be making stuff to prepare the ceremony for her horse marriage.
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>>376014795
You best believe new dungeons will be slightly bigger by design to compensate for this. Every dungeon is designed to take a certain amount of time regardless of how well it's run; we saw how blatant SE can be about timegating when KotL came out back in 2.whatever. Utter garbage dungeon.
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>>376015857
Someone have to be the potato.
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>>376015638
Very this.
Tomestone welfare queens are the clear marker of "I'm not seeing this party again anyway, who cares how low my dps is"
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>>376015857
I will post a cat next time.
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>apparently yoshi said that the canon wol would be a girl keeper of the moon

And you guys are always bashing miqo'te. The ironing.
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>ARR - Metallic dye Wedding Dress with Nexus weapon
>HW - thavnairian bustier set with Padjali/Kinna weapon
What will be the mark of 'shitter and smug about it' in SB?
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Do Fate for an item needed for a quest.
Finish Fate but realises the Inventory was full.
The item is gone. There is no way to pick up said item after clearing inventory because the item is not on the ground like other MMOs for me to pick up.
Have to wait for the Fate again.

This entire inventory system needs a redo.
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>>376014823
To be fair, A9S is babby mode tier. A5S is legitimately harder than it today even with overgearing. If you can't get at least one A9S accessory you are irredeemably garbage
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>"y-you agree that Lalafell are Master Race, right anon?"
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>>376016690
>not having at least 10 free slots in your inventory all the time
Sure, we need more space, but losing that item was entirely your fault.
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>>376016689
I'm expecting slutty kimono + af3 weapon for 4.0
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>>376016690
>I couldn't manage a simple game mechanic such as inventory space
>CHANGE THE SYSTEM
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>>376016532
Yoshi always have shit taste, it's nothing news anon
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>>376016860
No. Get that grown-man blush off your fucking face and repair my gear for me.
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>>376016860
Yes, potatoes have always been the best at being portable onaholes
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>>376016860
see >>376017070
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>>376016860
The only cute lala was Minfilia's guard in Horizon, but she is dead so nothing matters anymore, might as well use the whole race as cannon balls for the Ala Mhigo fight.
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>>376016860
I agree that smug Lalafell is smug.
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>>376016860
Potatoes are great except XIV's potatoes.
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>>376016532
>Yoshi is wrong about something
I am shocked.
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>void ark queue
>healers and tanks filled instantly
>has been stuck waiting for 4 more DPS for the last twenty minutes

Am I in bizarro xiv
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>>376016860
I just solo'd Titan EX as a PLD lala today
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>>376017935
It's always like that in raids. When you need 15 DPS and three tanks it's quite different from when you are two DPSes waiting for that single tank.
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>>376016532
He also plays a lala
Never listen to the gook's opinion
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Will SB bring more suffering to the WoL?

I can only imagine how pissed the WoL must be when he finally killed Nidhogg and ended the dragon's bullshit against Ishgard, only to have some faggot from some city state that got fucked by the Garleans, ruin everything.
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My box says 4 millions players. That better be true
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>>376018457
500k at most
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>>376018286
>Will SB bring more suffering to the WoL?
Hopefully the WoL gets some relief by having the Scions stay behind (Lyse and Yugiri notwithstanding) and just let us do our own goddamn thing in Ala Mhigo and Othard for fucking once.
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>>376018286
Stormblood will bring more head nods in cutscenes and generic faces gestures in your emote tab.

>>376018457
5 million accounts created, 350k actually active. Not bad as that puts XIV as the 2nd most active sub only MMO behind WoW.
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>>376018286
>WoL gets raped
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>>376018608

I'm just happy Minfilia is out of the picture. Why does she get kidnapped constantly in ARR boggles my mind.
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I'm about to fall asleep from running PotD over and over.
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I played dps for 4 years on WOW but them start to play healer and i liked .

Can i play healer as a newbie on ff xiv?
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>play as Brdberd
>top dps in Dun

Did I do you proud my bros?
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>craft items for 2.0 relic
>they still sell but very slowly
>material either hard to come by or costly
>put it on the market
>get undercut around 50% by some piece of shit
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>>376018457
>kermit gif

I know where you come from
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>>376018457
2 million accounts but 200k playing for sure
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You said there would be another liveletter on may 8th. Where is the announcement?
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>>376019547
You can be both at the exact same time.
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>>376007879
>bow to my insoluble judgment
>*freezes you in a crystal*
wat did he mean by this
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>>376019676
How about now? Got some more boogeymans?
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>>376009905
MCH don't really need a guide. All you need is pic related and knowing a good opener and 1. how to open with it, and 2. how to segue into it midfight
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>>376007238
>Show enemies in the water in the benchmark
>Kraken attacks the WoL
>Can't fight back because of Yoshida the Ideas Guy
What's the deep reddit lore going to be for the Warrior of Light not being able to fight back when these guys were fighting monsters way back when?
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>>376019547
We don't need anymore WoWfugees.
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>PLD will never ever ever get magical/holy knight skills like pic related
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>>376020242
WoWfugees are to ARRfags as ARRfags are to 1.0 fags.
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>>376020370
1.0 fags are just sad remains of FFXI fags and both of them are irrelevant, fuck off gramps.
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>>376019819
I wasn't being accusatory you paranoid fuck
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>>376020370
You fucking wish. Only mentally disabled people liked 1.0.
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>>376020242
>instant leveling potion
yes please, potd makes me want to kill myself.
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>>376020497
>XI is treated like an old grandpa game
>Older FF games aren't
Really microwaves the beans
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>>376020008
Underwater combat is always terrible.
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How do you healers gauge the tanks skill level,the spike damage from mobs and bosses and staying alive and cleric dancing? Trying to DPS as a healer is getting many poor tanks killed because 5 seconds is an eternity when the tank is on triple digits.

Do I have to run every dungeon without DPSing a few times to see the damage or is there a more effective way? This is making the class very stressful and making runs much longer.
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>>376020497
>XIV player
>Calling other people irrelevant
lol

>>376020595
>Only mentally disabled people liked 1.0.
Says the guy playing a game consisting entirely of people so mentally retarded that they struggle to clear hallway dungeons.
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>>376019780
/v/ lied. The next live letter is in 2-3 weeks.
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I need to know what the new blm spells are damn it
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>>376019097
I wonder if the decision to turn Minfilia into a puppet and send her to another dimension was influenced by the playerbase's feedback about 2.X MSQs (since she pretty much is the face of every wrong about these quests) instead of something that was planned from the beginning.
It's not like Thancred and Y'shtola are more or less important than her in 3.X. Both of them lost most of their "unique" aspects after 2.5 (like Y'shtola criticizing GC leaders and defending beast tribes, Thancred collecting info with his dick), and now they are basically filling very generic roles in the story with very little of their original personalities involved (well, Y'shtola is, I'm not sure what is Thancred is doing in the game anymore).
Plus, if Alisaie can pull a sword out of a book, I'm sure Minfilia would be able to shoot echo-powered missiles with her tits or something like that if she was alive.
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>>376020727
I base everything on the first pull. Same thing when I'm tanking, I gauge the healers skills and watch their CS usage. If I don't see any clerics in the first pull it's huge pulls and shit on healer if he fails time.
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>>376019547
Sup bro. Going to give you age old wisdom from my Ala Mhigan scholars.

Healing is really easy. The hard part is stance dancing into dps stance (turning on Cleric Stance) and turning it off to heal. Even then it's not hard just requires a lot more concentration and knowing what's going to happen.
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>>376020727
If a tank can't survive long enough for you to switch out of cleric stance then they are probably undergeared or a shitty player in general.
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>>376020745
I played XI way more than XIV and I still think 1.0 fags are the absolute worst and completely delusional. Get fucked, retard.
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>>376020727
>divine seal
>regen on tank
or
>pre-adlo
>rouse
Wow much hard dungeon healing
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>>376020816
>I'm sure Minfilia would be able to shoot echo-powered missiles with her tits or something like that
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>>376020727
Watch the tank's CD usage. Does he pop 'em? Go ham. Does he not? Prepare for a long run.
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What are some things 1.0 did better? I only saw some screenshots of it and know that pots and flowers had like 500000 polygons
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>>376020816
All the Scions are pretty awful. Underwhelming at best. Minfilia just had the problem of being the head of them, and the one they felt you needed to CONSTANTLY run back to. If either Thancred or Y'shtola were the one the game repeatedly said "Head back to the Rising Stones to speak to" and whatnot they probably would've been just as hated.

Well, maybe not Y'shtola. Being a cat protects her from criticism, the same way being a potato does for Tataru.

Not that I'm trying to raise the Minfilia Defense Force or anything, but she doesn't have much a character to hate. It's more just the god awful way the story made her constantly appear.
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>>376020816
Thancred is busy getting ASCIANED again
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>>376020008
I'm ok with this, underwater combat is always a shitty gimmick, anyway.
Fishing with spears is good enough.
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>>376020928
The first pull is not enough sometimes yeah you can gauge a shitter but some mobs in dungeons,24s ect just hit hard for no reason and if you cleric at the wrong time it can make some pulls too much to handle.

>>376021040
>>376021124
More tanks than I would like save CDs for bosses when its the EASIEST to heal them I hate it especially since I tank too.

>>376021070
>crit adlo
>rouse+both fey skills
>think I can DPS safely
>after dots and bane decide to glance at the tanks HP
>3k damage and yelling at me that im in cleric stance so im healing less

but even when playing with good tanks the damage still spikes up like crazy outta nowhere
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>>376018608
Like how the Dragoon NPC went from job story only guy to a pretty major character in HS, so too do I hope some of the Job NPCS return in SB in some important way.
In the grand scheme of things there really is no reason the Ninja people Oboro, Tsubame etc wouldn't be part of the Doman story proper. Likewise with the Monk NPCS for Ala Migho
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>>376021175
Armors covering the tails

That's all
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>>376021175
The only things 1.0 did better was texture detail and cutscenes. Everything else was straight up horrendous. From the unoptimized game client, certain jobs being useless in fights because of elemental resistance, areas being blatantly copypasted areas to fill up space and waste your time, netcode being so unstable it was common for the servers to crash at least twice a day.
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>>376021382

>Likewise with the Monk NPCS for Ala Migho

Well, Widargelt was revealed to be the nephew of the former king of Ala Mhigo, Theodoric, but he doesn't even appear on the group artwork so I doubt he'll have any importance in the story.
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>>376021574
If I could have one thing back, it would be the cutscenes. The robotic shit we have now is just sad.
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>>376021175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXDsvSNXXHs
Cutscenes and animations, they linked together way better and when you run or make fast turns it looked better. Sometimes it does look weird though
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>>376021667
Cutscenes are for retarded console babby niggers, they don't belong in MMORPGs
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>>376021667
*unsheathes weapon*
*scowls*
*idle combat pose*
*sheathes weapon*
*nods*
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>>376021914
"""""Mainline""""" Final Fantasy game, very immersive.
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>>376021667
Compromises had to be made with limited time and budget. In the case of 1.x, they spent most of the budget on making mocap cutscenes and adding unnecessary detail to objects.

In the case of 2.x, they spent most of the budget on rebuilding the entire game from their server infrastructure to the entire game engine they used.

They could make Stormblood cutscenes even better now that they have bigger budget and no more PS3 to support. That Stormblood benchmark had a lot of characters and things going on screen, a lot more than HW benchmark and even HE cutscenes.
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>>376021175
Way less loading screens
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>>376021874
Looks like fucking shit lmao. You're completely delusional.
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>>376022025
>They could make Stormblood cutscenes even better now that they have bigger budget and no more PS3 to support
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>>376022035
Sure man, i only said cutscenes and animations and even that they look weird sometimes. Now you have generic PS2 tier animations that cut off right away
Don't worry kiddo i'm not trying to shit on your precious 2.0+
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lewd
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>>376022090
No, have Daddy of Light instead with cringy Japanese "acting"
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>>376022152
You can't remotely insinuate that 1.0 had anything better than ARR, no matter how minor it is. People go fucking crazy.

Even as they skip their *sheathes weapon* *nods respectively* cutscenes and 5 minute 'long' seasonal events.
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>>376022372
Sigh

/xivg/ is LITERALLY 2 or 3 clicks away
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>>376021175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgEg8kXmifo
The ending
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>>376008125
>intentionally going to cuck yourself by not doing the pre-expansion content

Don't say I didn't warn you.
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Nobuyuki Hiyama voiced Raubhan's kid.
Huh, I see.
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>>376022152
>>376022413
>if you don't think few cherrypick 1.0 footage means the 80% of the cutscenes were equally garbage you must be 2.0 fanboys
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Heavensward Benchmark > A Realm Reborn Benchmark >>>>>> Redditblood Benchmark
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>try to get into ffxiv
>all of the animations look stiff as fuck
>it takes forever to cast spells
>every armor is designed to show your panties
>every server other than the extremely low pop ones are always locked

I should just quit before I waste anymore time on this game
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>>376022025
Well, they did say that your current job will have influence on some cutscenes, so there's hope for that
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P-please... Someone... Buy me a sub... PLEASE ;_;
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>>376021874
Wow holy shit

Literally a textbook case of consoles holding PC games back yet again
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>>376022504
>Implying we don't know they're cherrypicked
Cherrypicked 1.0 cutscenes are still better than cherrypicked ARR cutscenes. That's kinda the point.
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>>376022504
I never said all of them are amazing, way too project
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>>376022413
Are you done with the strawman? No where in the post the guy you quoted quoted said that 2.0 cutscenes aren't shit.
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>>376020768
Maybe we get Death as an execute
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>they're going to reveal that pipin isn't adopted in stormblood
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>>376022564
>"in real life I can cast all spells instantly!!"
Fuck off faggot bet you can't even say leviosah properly.
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>>376022640
>Posts this just after someone acted exactly as mentioned about ARR vs 1.0 cutscenes
Might wanna try actually reading posts there, champ.
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>>376022604
*smiles at you and nods*

>we will never get mocapped cutscenes like 1.0 ever again

Can someone post the webm?
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Much would be forgiven if Monk endgame in SB can go a Super Saiyan type buff for a set time with unlimited TP and enhanced strength.
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Is it too late to get into this game?

How long would it take to get 60 before the xpac? I'm a raider in WoW and kinda curious what the endgame is like here.
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>>376022575

Beg harder NEET scum
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>>376022893
They could add mocapped cutscenes if they wanted to (XIV 2.x engine is a fork of XV engine). The problem is that they would have shift time and resources away from other things to make it happen.

So choose between mocapped cutscenes voiced in 5 different languages, or only getting 1 Expert dungeon and 30 mins of MSQ.
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>>376018286
Wish we got more stuff like in the DRK questline where you get tired of a peoples ungrateful shittery and say you should've let leviathan wipe them off the face of the earth
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>>376014651
>1 hour
I know you already got shit on twice but I just need to emphasize but something is seriously wrong. since there were so many people in them I used to half ass my shit and get carried through and it still took the normal dungeon time.
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>>376023007
You have 45 days or so, you could catch up if you play go just a tad hard
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>>376023007
Try the free trial and level some classes to level 35 and see if you like it. It's not really hard to get to 60 unless you want tons of classes at 60
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>>376017515
Did they fug?
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What's the deal with pony and bird mounts? I was hearing that you can buy birds with tomes, but what tomes? I know you get ponies by doing extreme primals but that's the extent of my knowledge. Can someone give me a quick rundown ?
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>>376023007
Depends how much you play. I don't think there's any problem in reaching 60 with all the story quests if you start now. There's 45 days left.
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Do you think the copy of FFXIV 1.0 I have sitting in my closet will eventually be worth something? Like when the mint miss-prints a coin? Or the superbowl shirts that are made for the team that loses?
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>>376023047
>The problem is that they would have shift time and resources away from other things to make it happen.

I'd prefer it over going into wasted resources like minions and shit like that
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>>376019603
>Brdberd
>not IllBRD

fuck outta here
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>>376023291
He fugs them all, even his daughters
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>>376023454
Oh ho ho! You caught me! It was actually me, Santa!
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>>376023414
It's worth literally nothing unless you got a signed copy by Tanaka or a copy of the game with the client and server source code.
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>>376023342
Ponies drop off of older primals, burds drop off somewhat newer ones

Collecting every one gets you a special burd or pony
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Reddit will defend this
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What's going to be the most fun class in Stormblood?
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>>376023772
Dancer
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>>376023731
If 4 players are in the screenshot that far, then who's taking the screenshot?

5 player dungeons confirmed?
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>>376023772
Depends on if BLM gets Fire V or not

If not, probably RDM
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>>376023772
Anything that isn't DPS.

Enjoy your que times.
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>>376023342
>I was hearing that you can buy birds with tomes, but what tomes?
Whoever told you this is wrong. The only ways you can get Primal Birds are by killing the HW Primals and hoping they drop, or by amassing 99x of a Totem associated with a HW Primal, and trading those in for a Bird whistle.
You need all of the HW Birds to get Phoenix.
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>>376023772
Most fun DPS: RDM
Most fun Healer: AST
Most fun Tank: DRK
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>>376023867
>Not having group of friends to do roulettes and raids with
Dumb solo player
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>>376023814
If only
>"DF players perform below average so we added another DPS slot to bring total damage up to reasonable amounts"
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>>376023972
>having friends

Fuck off normie REEEEEEEEEE
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>>376023814
9 people were in the fight at the end of the Stormblood benchmark.

9 man primals confirmed
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>>376023928
>Most fun Healer: AST
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>this dragoon been trying to jump on the monolith in Idyllshire for like 20 minutes

man dragoons are stupid
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>>376023972
>people will group up to do roulettes, dungeons, trails and raids even more this expansion further killing que times

Thanks for proving my point.
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>>376023924
>mounts are still not account-wide
Real tired of your bullshit yoshi
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>Activate patience
>"The fish sense something amiss. Perhaps it is time to try another location."
>"You put away your rod."
Why is this allowed?
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>>376024318
It took years before WoW got account-wide items. Given the fact that it's taken years for XiV to receive basic QoL improvements, expect us to see things like account-wide mounts around, oh, 6.0 or 7.0.
Assuming the game doesn't fucking die before then because holy fuck the dev team's stupid as hell.
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>>376024180
t. whitemage cuck
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>>376024338
>silver shark
WHY is THIS ALLOWED?
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>>376024484
Can't be more stupid than western or korean devs.
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>>376021191
I think they wanted her to be a "main girl" in the game but unfortunately she was mostly a leader/diplomat and her personality made her look like a mother figure for the group (the kind of mother that hates to see her kids leaving her house even to go to school). I think she had potential to do a bit more important since she knew more about the echo than the rest of the scions, but even the echo stopped being relevant after Ysayle died.
I just feel that Thancred and Y'shtola are pretty much recycled character models in 3.X. For example, Alphinaud still is the same elezen boy you met in 2.0, except he is far more mature now due to character development. Y'shtola, on other hand, is only used for her connection with Matoya and primal/aether mumbo jumbo (something Krile was doing already, with support of Urianger every now and then), and Yugiri could easily fill Thancred's role in 3.X without affecting her own role since nothing about him is used for his new "batman" role.
There isn't much to say about the rest, since nothing changed for the others, except for not-Yda in the last minute (but that only changed her name in the dialogue box). At least Papalymo's sacrifice makes some sense (being the Louisoix's pupil and all), Urianger's role in the WoD arc would be less interesting if they used some new NPC instead of him, and Tataru still is a minor support/joke character since she already got a short story arc.
The scions as a group are pretty much irrelevant at this point, even Y'shtola indirectly agrees with this (saying that it would be better if they remained as friends contacting each other for help rather than a proper organization working under supervision of a leader).
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>>376024318
There's literally no point to Alt characters in this game so account wide mounts is a useless thing to add.

Unless you really want to show off to your ERP buddies or ride your slow looking firebird mount while doing the entire 2.x MSQ slog all over again.
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>use steady hand II and waste not
>You use Hasty Touch. Failure!
>You use Hasty Touch. Failure!
>You use Hasty Touch. Failure!
>most attempts it's at least two hasty touch failures every time
i actually had to fucking check the % that hasty touch was to succeed and the boost steady hand gave because this kept happening.
but oh fucking no, apparently 80 (EIGHTY) % (PERCENT) ISN'T ENOUGH FOR THIS GAME, NO NO NO. IT'S EITHER 100% OR FUCK YOU
unironically mad about this, it's been a problem for a few weeks now any time i try to craft. i've actually started just buying things off the market board instead of making myself thanks to this bullshit
even fucking moogles are being a pain in the ass (90% BASIC TOUCH FAILING 90% OF THE TIME FUCK)
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>>376023928
I think you meant SCH.
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>>376025164
>IT'S EITHER 100% OR FUCK YOU
This is how it's always been with everything that involves percentage-based success rates. It's either 100% or it's 0%. You should be expecting failed HTs.
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>>376025140
Specialist crafting and selling/double raiding.
If you're just the expert dungeon afk in hub kinda guy then yeah there's no point.
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>>376024884
>The scions as a group are pretty much irrelevant at this point, even Y'shtola indirectly agrees with this
I hope so.
I don't mind individual characters in the Scions. Having them appear very occasionally to be legitimately useful would be great (in side quests, cameos in the main story, etc). But as a collective whole, and as the 'main' characters who can't help us in actually important fights, they're horribly misused and come across as completely incompetent.

Much like how ARR misused Minfilia, the more the Scions make you trudge around to do shit for them for no good reason, the more annoyed players rightfully get with them. It's past the point now where they're killing them off and players feelings mostly range from "Eh.." to "Good riddance." I guess it's easier to kill them off for emotional value than actually try and make them work as characters.
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>>376025565
>specialist crafting
LOL
>selling/double raiding
Logging in weekly to do a raid then AFK is no different from logging in daily to do a expert dungeon then AFK
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>Join trial in progress
>Sophia normal
>Healers both die to the ice puddle and we wipe
>Nope.jpg the fuck out of there

I bet you those shitbirds are the type to post about HEALER ANXIETY on reddit
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>>376023854
There's no JP Equivalent to Fire V. Spell names have only gone up to -aja which is the IV equivalent in Koji meme speak.
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>>376024064
>still do 80% of the total group damage
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there are people here who actually fell for the open world meme, and want a retarded seamless walk zone.
>underestimating ARR's small zones but meaningful over literal nothing spaces.
Here I thought they learned something from HW 's wasteland, but reality its players base is trying to kill this game too.
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>>376025862
>meme speak
-ra -ga -ja will always be better
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>>376025862
>There's no JP equivalent to Fire V

except you know, the games that literally have Fire V

let me guess, your first FF was 13 right?
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>>376024318

>Having multiple characters when you can just change jobs on the fly

Based retard
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>>376026023
The only games to have Fire V were II and XI.
Fire V was just an upgraded version of normal fire and II your spells always leveled up.

Also nice reddit spacing.
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>>376025979
that's what he's implying
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>>376026140
oh you spaced a sentence out too, that makes you a hypocrite good sir

that being said, thats what BLM spells are in XIV, upgrades with the flavor twist of IV having different casting requirements and II being an AoE etc.
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>>376025862
>Koji meme speak
But the best version of FFT uses numbered spell ranks anon
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>>376025862
moron, they've come up with tons of suffixes that they could use

Firaja

Firaza

Firagun

they could just asspull a made up suffix if they wanted as well
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>>376025826
>If I just dodge both of his points no one will notice I didn't really reply
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>>376026434
Firanal

Thundanal

Blizzanal
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>>376025964
This

I agree, having some large areas is nice but overall the smaller more thought out and interestingly designed areas of ARR were much better.

I'd agree with open world if it was like they just removed the barriers between areas and connected them somehow sp they kept their detail while still feeling large, but they wont. HW areas were shit.
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>>376026543
Also toaster players will have a harder time running this shit without as many loading zones
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>>376026495
quality post
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>>376026405
>Good sir
So if you're so knowledgeable on Final Fantasy games having V tier spells before you'd know the JP suffix but guess what there is none. You're just pretending you know what you're talking about and I listed the only two exceptions that were upgrades. Back you go, champ.
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>>376014795
Pull everything. Run. Pull boss. Stop atvthe edge of the boss room. Room close. All the trash stays outside
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>>376026495
>thundanal
>smn gets the shining dragon
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The numbered spell system is much more efficient and easier to type and recognize

They did the right thing, sorry nostalgia autists
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>>376026730
i dont understand what that has to do with the fact that there exists a Fire V spell? you're trying way too hard
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>>376023928
Anon that's the classes I'm playing
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A friend has been bothering me for a while for a new MMO game since once again - wow has proven to be a stale cookie. I've been wondering about this game for some time new so we tried it on a trial, of all things my friend could say about this game is that "it feels like guilds war 2".

How long does it take for the combat to really kick in once you start the game? I was aiming for a WAR and I'm thinking about playing this game anyway, maybe do it the same way OP does.
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>>376026790
>BLM gets laid lines
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>>376026898
Schoool must've been hard for you
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>>376026921
If Fire V were to be in XIV there would need to a suffix equivalent. You claimed many games already had fire V and I listed the only two that were upgrades of just the normal basic fire spell.
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At least the women of mhach raids were top tier
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>>376026543
What I don't get is why they're pushing for much larger zones, and then not putting anything in them.
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>>376026898
>What are tool tips?
>What are differentiating icons?
Koji didn't outright say it but he pretty much implied this system was made for dumbasses like yourself.
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>>376027031

>DUDE WHAT THE FUCK USE CURAJAFAJARAJA
>Dude just use Cure V

Which one is better?

Thank you
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>>376027034
>there would need to a suffix equivalent

uh.. why, because you say so? is Firaga, for example, a spell that exists currently in XIV? No?

oh, okay, that settles that then
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>>376026991

>How long does it take for the combat to really kick in once you start the game?

A long time. Play pugilist if you want the combat to kick in as soon as possible.
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>>376027102
They put fates, hunts, gathering nodes, sightseeing spots for logs, and treasure map locations in every zone.

It's just that nobody does them because some loser on the internet said that there are faster ways to gear or level up and did the no life research so there's the meta everyone follows.
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>>376026991
level 30-40 spectrum because at that point you have your job crystal and some actual moves with synergy and/or coherence
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>>376011103
Cite source
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>>376027205
>Asks if FFXIII is my first game
>Is Firaga a spell that exists in XIV?
Firaga is Fire III, retard.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Firaga_(ability)
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>>376027592
>Firaga is Fire III

uh.. what? Fire III is Fire III my neckbeard dude, does the text say Firaga..?

No..?

oh, okay
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Other guy said it earlier but how would you feel about this

>Healer attacks scale off MND now
>Cleric Stance is now a cooldown that just increases damage and reduces healing for a certain amount of time for burst phases, but is more powerful than the current bonus
>Still can't toggle it off once activated for its duration
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>>376007879
If it's not SOAR it's TETHERS
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>>376027164
"Use cure you fuck"
The healer should know which one to use
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>>376027756
I know you're jokeposting, but the devs said they still care about the historic lore of spells they add and try to avoid adding spells that weren't in FF games before. They acknowledged that each Fire spell has its equivalent, but changed to numbers for each of understanding.
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@376027756
Not even worth the (you)
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>>376011361
It will be in the same patch as add-on's

Please look forward to it!
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>>376027845
Tanks get damage off VIT

dont see why healers cant have the same thing
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>>376027305
>FATEs
Barely counts as content. If they actually fucking mixed things up with objectives after 4-5 years they might be worth counting. But as it stands they're the exact same three fucking types split across several thousand FATEs.

>hunts
Hunts do count. We need more shit like it. Drama included.

>gathering nodes
You fly to an incredibly small area of a map and run around in a circle. ARR had this too. Increasing the map size doesn't affect this in any way.

>sightseeing spots for logs
>implying sightseeing logs are relevant in any way

>treasure map locations
Again, a minuscule area, ARR already did it, and increasing the zone size little changes this in absolutely no way.

>It's just that nobody does them because some loser on the internet said that there are faster ways to gear or level up and did the no life research so there's the meta everyone follows.
No, it's because most of them are just shit. Not 'shit' in "Oh there's something faster". Shit as in even by this game's standards, most of that barely constitutes as content.
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>not cure, hi cure, mega cure, x cure
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>>376027373
>>376027240
How much does picking a server matter here?
I've seen that 2 servers are full and not allowing more characters, probably going to start on cactuar.
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>>376014769
didn't see the point when I got the HQ set for cheap off someone selling it on PF and I was sitting on 20 mil with nothing to use it on.
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>>376026991
Game is in full tutorial mode till you get to level 50.
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>>376027972
okay well, and that's cool and all, but my only point is that the spells dont use that naming system, so they dont have to invent a new suffix, they can just do "Fire V" since that is how their scheme currently is

theoretically speaking, of course, otherwise, they can just make something up, whatevs
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>>376027935

Except you didn't solve the problem, you just told him to use the first level spell when he needed to use a higher one

Just admit I'm right you autist
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>>376028168
Theres a difference between can and will. They said they wont.
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>>376028125
on the Aether data center i would recommend Jenova or Gilgamesh


but NEVER

EVER

go to Balmung
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>>376028216
well then so be it i guess
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>>376028168
>okay well, and that's cool and all, but my only point is that the spells dont use that naming system
They do in the Japanese version.
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>>376028184
You shouldn't have to tell them in the first place
>right
Opinions, i have no problems with either of them. You guys just like to argue over everything
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>>376028168
You skipped part of the process. The devs name stuff off on existing spells in the series. Thus they cant create a Fire V because a Fire V doesn't exist in lore, and lore is what they require to make spells.
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>>376028168
The canon version of the game uses suffixes. Our version is whatever koji fox memes up like he did for most skill names.
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>>376028243
I play on Jenova. It's a pretty chill server.

Balmung is an atrocity.
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>>376028390
>inb4 angry redditors argue that the English version is written at the exact same second as the Japanese scenario to defend their memelord.
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>>376028390
The "canon" version also calls paladin knights which is retarded since they gave them holy magic.
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So you are those who pronounce Behemoth as Bay-her-moth rather than Ber-hee-muff
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>>376028913
I can't pronounce anything right when I'm deep in your mom's muff.
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>>376028118
So basically what you're saying is "anything not fun to me is not content".
In that case, FFXIV has 0 content.
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>>376028913
>*B'hemot
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>>376028913
i have never in my life heard anyone use either of those pronounciations
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>>376028913
it's Beh-hee-muth
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>Motion to abandon duty passed. The party has been disbanded and the duty ended.
>The Vault has ended.

FUCK POTD ruined all leveling content
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>>376028703
There is nothing "retarded" about that, FFI's knights also used white magic.
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>>376029016
>So basically what you're saying is "anything not fun to me is not content".
Yeah, sure, if you don't count literally everything else in the game that isn't 'FATEs, gathering nodes, sightseeing log, treasure map'.
Yup. FFXIV is just that. Nothing else at all.

Go sit in the fucking corner and think about how retarded your post is, you butthurt, fanboy autist.
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>>376028703
White magic is not holy magic.
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>>376028703
Knights used white magic in FFI and FF3. You sir are the retard.
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>>376029163
You're the one sounding butthurt with all these projections and ad hominems, nigga.


May as well stop playing and posting if you think the only content there is to be enjoyed is the minuscule stuff you do at the level cap, after spending more than 100 hours of your time to reach there.
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>>376029016
>My only defense is a strawman
You are literally this stupid.
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>implying the devs compare about being accurate
They know 80% of their playerbase haven't touched or know the existence of other FF games. Why should they be accurate?
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>>376007223
Stop being a silly billy because I'm getting all your commendations ^_^
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>>376029536
Not as stupid as the guy posting in a thread about a game he hates on a work/school day
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>>376029540
I don't think this statistic is accurate
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>>376029098
BUT MY KINNA WEAPON!!!
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>>376029401
They are Paladins in 1 and 3.
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>>376025862
Fire
Fira
Firaga
Firaja
Flare
Meteor
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I know padjal and kinna weapons are considered shitter flags
But why arent the garo ones?
Ive been using them damn near exclusively for all my classes and you can get one in about 2 or 3 matches of shatter easy, but i rarely see anyone using them unless its as a glamour.
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>>376028124
>wanting the French system
hon hon hon
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>>376029210
What did they even call them, I can't remember at all.
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>>376029749
>>376030081
What's this about kino weapons?
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>>376029940
You're a dumb nigger supreme. Here's your you, 10/10, gb2ribbit.
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>>376030182
Blooming Chichu. So even in this world they might be still part of the Ochu family.
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>>376030081
>shitter flags

How insecure are people.
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Daily reminder that if you don't raid you're subhuman trash and you should kill yourself
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This will be your archer for your next leveling roulette
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>tfw the only thing I'm looking forward to in Stormblood is looking cute in my new White Mage AF gear
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>>376030040
>>376025862
>tfw there will be no class that can cast Water 3
Even the frog in antitower has better water spell animation than another class you play.
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>>376029940
No they aren't, even the japanese name is knight.
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>>376030430
The first tier water spell he casts is just Fluid Aura has the same animation and noise. Don't know why they just don't call it water for the players too.
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>>376030231
Looks like a Paladin. Smells like a Paladin. Acts like a Paladin. Doesn't matter what original developers call something, it matters what it adapts into.
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>>376030430
Speaking of frogs
>ninja summons something better looking and bigger than the actual summoner
LOVING EVERY LAUGH
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>>376030364
raid what? your pantry you fatass?
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>>376030572
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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>>376030430
any other. *
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>>376030569
You're in denial, got it.
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>>376030430

He also sings the song kermit did at the beginning of the muppet movie
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>>376030364
>Daily reminder if you don't play with my worthless NEET ass you're somehow less of a human being than I am because I need someone to validate my inferiority complex in a simon says simulator.
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>>376030326
Not even him but just about every person I've played with a Potd weapon is always trash. Wears the worst gear, puts the worst melds or doesn't meld at all, and is always the least contributing player to the group.

When they die I don't even bother rezzing them. Waste of my time and MP. My SCH can contribute more DPS than a BLM that can't follow his rotation.
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>>376030792
>Being this mad because the only thing you're capable of doing is sitting in Limsa and pretending you're having sex with a viritual half-naked catboy
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>>376030569
Nigga, the job is Knight. Koji decided for whatever reason that it was best to localize ナイト (Knight) to Paladin
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>>376030558
>fluid Aura
This and esuna are the only water spells being used so far.
dev said something about changing esuna, but I wonder if they going to remove fluid aura too.

Fun fact, the six astral Umbra was not causes by the rising sea level, but because water magic was heavily neglected. Water aether was overflown and ruptured its barrier into the realm. If that's the case I wonder who is in control of casting water spell now to keep the balance in control.
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>>376031176
Probably because the concept of knight got replaced by paladin in all future titles. The devs admitted they were wrong, but then the hack behind 1.0 decided to ruin it again.
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>>376030997
I don't meld or maximize my gear because I don't fall for the meme of having optimized equipment with marginal stat efficiency and play just fine. But I also don't do savage content because I find other ways to hate myself.
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>>376031176
>Koji calls Knight "Paladin"
>5.0 introduces a new job called Paladin
>Koji calls it "Knight"
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>>376031359
No, it's explicitly because the job has been called Knight since the very first Final Fantasy game.

I really don't understand where you're trying to go with this. PLD in this game has Cover, the most iconic Knight job skill, and also has access to low-level white magicks, just like Knights in the rest of the series.

You should pick up and play Final Fantasy 1, 3, and 5. I recommend the DS version for FF3, and the GBA versions of 1 and 5. Those will help you out the most.
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>>376031617
Koji gets away with butchering the translation and everyone claps.

All future lore inconsistencies will end up being written into canon.
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>>376031415
There's literally no excuse not to meld as even grade 3 materia is worth 1000 gil per item on average and there is a NPC in every town that melds for you.

If you were too lazy to take 2 minutes to meld, idk how lazy you will be to run a 45 minute 24 man raid.
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>>376031678
So why didn't we just start as KNT and become PLD? This could have solved all the confusion.
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>>376031747
Because I'm too autismal to understand melding stat priorities.
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>>376031678
I played the early FF but they have no bearing on why FF14 names their jobs in such a way.
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requesting that image of the old guy from courage sitting in leylines
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>>376031907
Google stat weights.
Or fuck it just meld whatever you like as long as it benefits your role. I stack skill speed out the ass on MNK just because I want to go fast.
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>>376031907
put crit on everything, every class

yes there are exceptions but like 90% of the time crit is right
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So I play on Lich.
It's alright.
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>>376031708
Even with this PLD/Knight nonsense and the fiasco that was Nael deus Darnus, I really don't think Koji has fucked it up that bad.

My only very serious gripe is the spell naming system, but, I think that debate's already going on in this thread. I don't even dislike Fire 1, Fire 2, Fire 3, Fire 4. They're straightforward and easy to work with.

I just like Fire, Fira, Firaga, Firaja better. Or, take the French approach and go with Fire, Extra Fire, Mega Fire, Giga Fire. Both of those (except Extra, I guess) are more consistent with the way spells have been named throughout the series. Then again, in the earliest FF games, it was FIR, FIR2, FIR3 etc.

>>376031947
It's a matter of keeping with tradition.

>>376031875
You're misunderstanding. You don't go from gladiator to paladin, you go from gladiator (グラディエーター) to knight (ナイト). The job is called Knight. They chose to localize it into Paladin. That was a bad decision.

We couldn't do it your way because then the Japanese progression would be Knight to Knight, which is stupid.
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>>376031176
>>376031617
I always wondered about that and was confused why it was called Paladin when it was more knight-like but just learned to accept it

>and then fight with Warrior of Darkness Paladin counterpart is called a Knight
The fuck man
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>>376032158
>benefits your role
>essentially cutting a long horizontal line down the vein of your TP bar
You madman.
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You know you fucked up when the Final Fantasy trading card game gets the job name right.
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>>376027064
>OUR QUEEN SHALL BE RESURRECTED AND DESTROY YOU ALL
>Resurrection happens offscreen
>gets killed in a single fight to become a setpiece for Diablos to absorb

Mhach are a bunch of cucks.
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>>376032039

not gettin out of this chair
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>>376032295
Every group runs with an AST now so who cares, give me all your useless spires.
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>Get Ninja to 60
>Never get hit by anything due to passive speed boost

How do NINs die in this game? Its so easy
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How is your hotbar set up?

I'm new to mmos and i'm worried that once I level enough and have a fuck ton of skills that my hotbar and hotkeys will be all cluttered and that I won't be able to manage a whole rotation without fucking up and losing track of my hands and my keys
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>>376031617
>oh er yeah it turns out that wasn't acheron it was plegethon. lel

although to be fair, he had to do something with that one and got bamboozled by the jp team. even the knight thing isn't so bad, though it does make for some confusion in the latest set in FFTCG since they have to call the FF14 paladin card knight.

honestly the only "bad" thing he did was the spell names, and even that is a toss up because have the previous games have tier numbers anyway. although i think it makes things like fire more confusing for the people he's trying to help.
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>>376032258
the only thing that bugs me out about the numbered thing is that there's no indication of what each spell does

like bio 2 is single target, miasma 2 is an instant aoe, fire 2 is an aoe with cast times, etc etc
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>>376032439
STUPID TANK, YOU'RE MAKING ME LOOK BAD.
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>>376006467
Is there any level requirement to play the new Samurai job in Stormblood?
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>>376032758
You gotta be level 50 in something else
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>>376032758
You need a job at fiddy.
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>>376032736
>move out of the FUCKING AoEs
>what's yer offer?
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>>376032612
Okay, but, that's true in the classic naming system too.

Miasma would still be a single-target cast time DoT, Miasra would still be an instant AoE DoT. Biora would still be a single-target 30s DoT, Fira would still be an AoE spell, Cura would still be a large single-target heal. What's your point?
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>>376017515
>>376023484
Source?
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>>376032579
1234
QERT
SFG
ZXCVB

with all the shift+button version of those is more than enough with lesser used stuff on things like 56YHN
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>>376032568
That one moment where you have Blood for blood on and the game lags then you get hit for 30% increased damage.
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What DPS would you like to see more of personally? I'm torn on deciding a DPS. Or should I just finish SCH.
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>>376033120
MCHs that know what the fuck they're doing.
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>>376032258
Im just questioning the developers choice of job for something has only has a little bit to do with Knight.
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>>376032439
>Dun Scaith
>Fight Ferdiad
>get Sword AOE
>Drop it on a BLMs Leylines
>Watch them die cause they refuse to leave
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Stormblood is gonna be shit isn't it
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>>376032579
1-5
Q,E,R,F,Z,X,C with shift modifiers for almost all of those
Shift+Spacebar
~ key
T,G,V for lesser keys
M3, Shift+M3
If you have a mouse with multiple buttons (mine has 7 on side) then that helps a lot too.
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>>376033212
I was leveling bard too but I might just do it. I like MCH a lot and I love guns and I usually play range in MMOs/dungeon crawlers but wildfire is a pain just trying to feel it out in POTD is a losing battle. People make it seems so simple when its much harder. Since MCH is on a fight by fight basis but it mite b fun.
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>>376033338
Probably since the devs are hiding so fucking much of it. The drip feed of information is real, nothing like the hype for Heavensward.
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>>376032335
they had to go with the knight on the card though because so many things work based on card names. changing it to paladin would actually change the functionality that the devs intended
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>>376033338
I think it's going to be disappointing in that it won't change the game as much as we'd hope for but will still be good overall.
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>>376032579
There's plenty of space!
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>>376032579
Here's an example of what my hotbars look like at level cap.

* means shift key
c means ctrl key
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>>376033567
Wait you can doubleclick triggers to get even more bars?
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>>376030430
>even bosses and npc has better looking skill than your.
when can we do something like this? without the need of LB of course.
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>>376010090
Yoshi said during Fanfest Q&A sessions that Stormblood zones would be about the same size as Heavensward zones and still contain zone dividers.
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>>376032579
I use ESDF for moment to give myself a few extra keys

~ to 7
QWRTY
AG
ZXCVB

I hate using ctrl and shift for things though, and it's still not enough. Started playing SCH and I have to click fairy abilities which is a nightmare so I'm probably just going to have to give in and use shift.
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>>376033061
So I wasn't the only one who noticed this? I Swear Blood for Blood has a somewhat long animation.
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>>376033762
Yeah. I love using it for LBs, sprint, potions, etc, things you might not use all the time but still want within easy reach.
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>>376033762
They added that 2 or 3 patches ago
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>>376006467
you'll have a FUCKLOAD of level 50 main story quests to do.

They give next to no EXP so you wont be missing out on anything. do those before heavensward since they'll take upwards of a week or so
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>>376034149
this is what i do in 24 mans with a macro
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>>376018286
Hopefully no more fucking poison in drinks.
Poor WoL is already paranoid now.
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>>376034321
>suspiciously eyeing the guy pouring drinks during dinner with Aymeric
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>People willingly play with a controller on PC

I mean I get that it works and its more comfortable for your hands

But you'll never be as fast with your skills as a M+KB
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>>376033009
Title in this picture :^)
Draph Rain From The Sky
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>>376027993
The weight is .45 while the scaling for MND is 1.0, same for the other DPSes primary stats, tanks are the only ones to have two stats basically, but the weighting for both is .45
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>>376034149
I guess everyone should play the same class then
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>>376034659
>moon runes

th-thanks
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Is Skill Speed better than Crit for brd? I heard that Skill Speed is suppose to be great for brd.
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>>376034801
no, crit is still better

skillspeed is more valuable on brd than most other classes but it's not better
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>>376034760
I think that's a granblue doujin. If it's the one I think it is, it has two parts and both are translated.
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>>376034631
>But you'll never be as fast with your skills as a M+KB

wew
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>>376034967
Well shit what am I suppose to meld then, because mch and brd wear the same gear for BiS?
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>>376035086

>Have to waste 1-2 seconds toggling through menu
>keyboard player can just click the skill in .5 seconds

Admit it
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>>376034631
i do gathering with a gamepad
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>>376034631
>more comfortable for your hands
Reason enough for me.
I started playing on controller so I could wrap up in a blanket and keep my hands warm. Now I'm too lazy to readjust my UI for kb+m and pretty much relearn my controls again. The only real difference is in targeting and not having mouseover macros.
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>>376035127
I'd say skill speed over det. BiS with no relic stats are 1176 critical, 532 det, and 830 skill speed with 704 acc, from what this BiS solver is stating.
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>>376034631
Even the director of this game said that if he ever had to do PVP or endgame raiding, he would use a keyboard+mouse for maximum efficiency.

Controller only good for casual play like dungeons and gathering.
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>>376035127
crit if you can fit it on, det if you can't

if you're using both regularly the difference between det and sks isn't all that much for brd and sks is extra bad on mch
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>>376030420
>All cute boots look like shit on lalas
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>>376029210
Why not call it Double Ochu?
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>>376035613
>Something looks like shit on a shit race

Who would've thought.
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>>376035613
Lalas don't have ankles or kneecaps so of course anything foot related looks like trash.
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>>376035430
Can you show me what the BiS solver is stating?

>>376035580
I see.
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>>376036351
I know >reddit but this is useful.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/5xtjx1/all_bis_as_solved_by_kanetws_solver/
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>>376036327
They do. The animators just treated their running and walking like they don't.
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>>376033338

It depends. They can still make content exciting but there's nothing to suggest they're going to change anything of the formula they used for Heavensward. That's the worrying part.
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>>376035163
>click
I'd like to admit something but it wouldn't be nice.
>>
Should I resub for XIV or WoW? Honest question.
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>>376036606
Realistically what "formula" could they change and how do they do it without pissing off their fan base or taking longer than 3 months to make said content every patch?
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>>376036635
Right now WoW
Stormblood looks like more of Heavensward shit. Well, less of Heavensward shit. Battle system changes can make or break the expansion.
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>>376036635
None, go to sadpanda and fap to tons of WoW and FF porn instead.
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>>376036787

I know I'd personally like to see them adjust tomes somewhat. It's quite frustrating that for a game where you can be absolutely everything on your character, you're still gated into viably playing one class at a time. I'd change it so that every DoW/M class had their own individual tome cap so that you can progress in each at a pace you're happy with, but then that goes against SE's philosophy of forcing people to play over a longer length of time.
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>>376036951
>Right now WoW
Good joke, now is the worst time to go back to WoW. You will be months behind an AP grind and progression. Even worse if you aren't even level 110 yet as every zone below that is a ghost town that has to be sharded with bots to appear alive.
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>>376014794
>>376014970
Prepare how even?
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God, I hate scions and their bullshit in the HW
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>>376036964
>and FF porn
Hopefully more than just XIV porn.

Unless you're super into donut steel futas fucking other donuts.
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>>376037205
Getting caster gear for RDM or striking gear for SAM, saving up tomes for conversion, gil for spending, crafters for crafting, etc.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDjSWpaqe6E
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>>376037191
>You will be months behind an AP grind and progression.
You can be reasonably ready for ToS normal in time before it launches. It takes a couple of weeks to catch up to the baseline because there's welfare and cheap artifact knowledge (to 25) now, you'll basically be 870+ with new traits unlocked in a night or two.

>Even worse if you aren't even level 110 yet as every zone below that is a ghost town that has to be sharded with bots to appear alive.
Typical Yoshibot mantra, and a factual lie
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>>376036635
save money! play maplestory, vindictus or blade and soul!
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What the fuck is with the level progression with this game?

I just came back after I gave up on it a while ago, and my character was stuck doing main story quests that were literally (actually literally) ten levels below my character and none of the monsters were hitting me for more than 5 damage.


It's so fucking boring, I've never played an MMO that requires you to play so many MSQs that take so long yet pose no challenge.
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>>376037205
SAM wears same gear as MNK, RDM wears same gear as BLM. You could have a full BiS level 50 and 60 set ready to go in the months prior to Stormblood.

>>376037145
There's no cap on crafted gear, hunt gear, or eureka zone gear. If you played the first month of Heavensward, the best gear was only obtained through hunts and a Primal. I assume Stormblood is going to have the same progression method except when the first raid tier releases, you have eureka and hunts to grind out instead of worrying about a weekly tome cap.
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>>376037789
> MSQs that take so long yet pose no challenge.

Not only that but like, give you barely any rewards.

Every quest I did gave me about 1/20th of a level, after playing for 5 hours straight I gained one(1) level.
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>>376037509
Nice try Lukile, you will never achieve normies social status like Mr happy so give up!
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>>376037485
FF porn is trash in general, GBF is superior in every way.
Even their potatoes are better.
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>>376037789
Hopefully Stormblood will do away with those requirements.
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>>376038019
>GBF
For one certain character, sure, but the rest is sh-
>Even their potatoes are better.
Whatever you say, pedo.
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>>376030364

Raiding is for autistic fagmonkeys so you fit right in.
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>>376037789
So just spend a half hour burning through them all if you outlevel them so much.
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>>376037789
I don't remember this happening to me. If anything it was the opposite. The MSQ suddenly needed me at level 47 or something to progress when I was still at level 44.

>>376037881
Sidequests barely give EXP but MSQ gives a nice amount last I checked. Also a dungeon roulette takes 30 mins or less and you're guaranteed to go up 1 level or 2.
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>>376037485
>Unless you're super into donut steel futas fucking other donuts.
It didn't have to be like this.
We could have hundred of XIV doujin porn, but nobody fucking scan them, and the few who do keep it to themselves or closed group
You can pay for those tho to share some of them tho.
https://www.patreon.com/neko_sentai
>$25 reward is for those that wish to get access to view doujins scanned from comiket and other sources (other anime conventions in Japan within reach, places like akihabara, or online stores). The payment helps to travel to various locations in Japan, and make payments and delivery charges from online orders.

Not like anyone will ever do it...
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>>376037913
>go to youtube to listen to ffxiv sountrack
>always see Larryzaur and Zelphy commenting on top of the list.
These meme comedian fags are everywhere.
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>>376038136
t. lala memester
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>>376038239
I have a cute yaoi doujin with Haurchenfant and MC
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>>376038270
>Larryzaur
Some of his videos made me at best crack a smile but I don't understand his appeal.
Also why does he have to talk like a retard?
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>>376038494
Pls share.
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>>376037509
>Path Companion
What if the the copanion is ARR WoL who lot all memory.
Either way I want that feature in Stormblood!
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>>376019630
Who even cares about undercutters? Just put it up for slightly more than the average, it's bound to sell sooner or later
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>>376034631
I do that as a SCH, get on my level. Dreading having to switch for 8+ man content.

At least I've never had someone die in a light party due to controller limitations, usually idiot DPS standing in AoE or hazards
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>>376016690
XI had a temporary loot pool for solo play that kept items for like 5 minutes. Makes me think none of the XIV dev team worked or played XI and picked up its good system traits.
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How hard is extreme triad? sephoroth ex tactic felt complicated
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>>376006467
Preordered on Amazon a few days ago and I still don't have the key. What's taking so long?
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>>376038865
The average is what I've set it up first.
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>>376039018
>XI
>Good system traits
Pick one
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>>376039027
Sephirot EX is literally go left/go right. If you don't know your left from your right, everything in this game is probably too difficult for you.
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>>376039027
Every fight in the game is just "follow the extremely rigid and scripted pattern while doing your rotation". The hard part is getting 7 other people who aren't complete fuck ups.
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>>376039067
It's not released until (a few days before) early access?
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>>376039027
sephirot is easy if you're not a black mage
sophia is easy if you can count
zurvan is easy if all your party members speak the same language
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>>376039027
Sephirot EX is the hardest out of the warring triad mainly because of the one shot mechanics and if you fall off you can't ressurect.

Sophia and Zurvan EX is easier mechanic wise but may be harder to some people because of the steeper gear checks.
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>>376039067
dont do preorders, you get the code when it ships
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>>376039027

The mechanics aren't complicated at all, but as always it only takes that one person who's out of position to ruin everything.
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>>376039321
>Sophia
>Zurvan
>gear checks
L M A O
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>>376039392
All I can say is as a healer I tend to miss mechanics and die while emergency healing idiots who missed previous ones
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>>376039321
>Sophia and Zurvan EX
>steeper gear checks
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>>376039456
Remember that every Zurvan and Sophia ex group in PF now requires absurd ilvl requirements way above the minimum entry level. It's a genuine problem for newer players.

So some people may be boosting their ilvl with cheap tactics like wearing different accessories so they can get in the group and then they wonder why they can't skip Soar or first minor tilt.
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>>376039887
Full Shire in a nutshell.
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what does it mean
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>>376039887

Even without cheap tactics I've seen my fair share of groups where people in 270 gear don't have the dps to push Soar. Honestly I don't even mind that much because Soar is simple, but when they then cannot position themselves in the spot they called out and kill themselves and a second/third person, it's just hopeless.
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>>376039323
>dont do preorders
>Stormblood preorders get early access
Nice try, jewcrafter!
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>>376040007
Why does that cat have a dog tail?
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Why play XIV over other MMOs?
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>>376040224
Some websites that do preorders aren't offering the Stormblood early access code. I think some Amazon regions are doing the same thing.

Guaranteed way to get a code is if you preorder on Square Enix site, Steam, or GameStop.
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>>376040347
Everything else is dead, has more braindead-er combat/content and/or a fanservice Korean cash shop grindfest
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>>376040347
It's the only mmo on the market I can tolerate
Would leave for official classic lotro servers
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>"Muh stabbers"

What did he mean by this?
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>>376040347
Do you like WoW mechanics but hate Blizzard's practices and ego? Go play FFXIV.

If you hate WoW mechanics, don't play.
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>>376038167

t.miqote with a kinna weapon
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>>376040007
More facebook minigames
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Not american, how can I get the amazon codes?
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>>376040347
XIV is the only MMO with western servers besides WoW that isn't a deserted wasteland or has a super high barrier of entry (Eve, archage)
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>>376041397
Wait for the promotion to turn up in your country.
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>>376040115
This is how I feel too. I still get mildly pissed off because this one person who called out Northwest, kept Running to the North Eastern side like a retard.
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>>376041397
Ask someone nicely
People literally posted them there, you just need to cancel order right away to get one(or few)
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>>376020242
>Complaining about 2.5s GCD
Everytime. Dumb Wowtard shitters.
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>>376041397
Use an American VPN to access the American Amazon store.

Just a reminder that the code only works on North American accounts. Can't use it on European, Japan, etc.
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>>376041397
If you don't have an NA squenix account it doesn't matter, code aren't usable on non NA ones.
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>>376041672
>>376041663

I'm a leaf.
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>>376041762
Then give me 20 USD (+tip) to buy something and i'll give you the code.
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>>376020727
Really gotta play the class to know.

As a tank if they're making huge pulls they should be popping half their defensive CDs and the the other half after the first wears off so that they take as little damage as possible and hopefully the deeps is good enough to take out a mob or two to drop the damage taken.
Nominal tanks use maybe one CD at a time for huge pulls it's because they're stuck in slow pull/raid boss mode and aren't using their brain, those are your nominal tanks. Shitter tanks hardly use CDs and/or try to go into DPS stance as a non-DRK or a DRK that's not using Abyssal Drain.

For normal pulls, if they're mixing up CDs with switching between DPS stance, and using more DPS stance when there's less than 2 mobs is sign of a good tank. Otherwise they're taking too much damage such that the healer can't dps.
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>>376041762
Canadians still use North American accounts. So if you get a code you can use it. Beg for a code or use the VPN method said above.
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>>376032736
>>376032849
Made me laugh, thanks bros.
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Wish XIV had more a more "evil mage" class that isn't SMN and BLM just seems like a generic mage class.
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>>376042457
DRK
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