ITT: Simple games with infinite replayability

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greatest 2d platformer don't @ me

Beating my cat with a stick

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>>375999395

>>375999395
This game is the best, hate when fags go "hurr durr its name is puyo puyo!" Fucking retards I swear to god.

>>375999918
too zoomed out to be considered greatest.

>>376000861
What the fuck? But it is Puyo Puyo. Mad that it's anime shit?

>>376000953
Are you fucking retarded? The game is called Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine, where the fuck you see the Puyo in there? Yeah, thought so, faggot. Don't even bother to reply cause I don't have time for retards like you, you piece of shit.

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rogues

>>376000941
its fast paced and you need to be able to see your surroundings to judge movement and jumps,etc

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>>375999395

>>376001448
Sonic is fast paced too and it isn't zoomed out at that level, your argument is shit.

>>375999395
I vaguely remember this weird ass game, it was kinda fun

>>375999395
I remember this as Kirbys ghost traps

>>376001608
>Kirbys ghost traps
Sounds gay.

The sounds & music are forever burned into my brain, that "schlupp" noise as the colourless beans fall...

>>376001562
sonic is way too zoomed in, how is more perspective a bad thing?

>>376001562
sonic games with a slightly more zoomed out view would only make them so much better though.

there's a handful of traps/pitfalls that you only really know how to avoid after dying to them in sonic games

>>376001742
Gives you more time to react, making the game easier than it should be.

>>375999395
YEEHAW

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>>376001562
>sonic games are perfect and sonic games contain this specific aspect that literally no one has ever praised it for therefore your argument is invalid

LOL

>>376001997
>quoting out of context
>le meme reaction faces

Yep, everything checks out.

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>>375999395

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>>375999395

>>376002089
your argument is sonic is zoomed in and a platformer so spelunky should be too

except sonic being zoomed in is something that leads to a handful of unfair deaths, not a fair challenging game mechanic

>>376002252
Have you thought, I don't know, maybe it is you who needs to fucking GIT GUD

>>376002342
i assume youre only referring to the 2d sonic games

either way, spelunky is not sonic
it's not about goin 2fast2furious
it's just about platforming and weighing risk v reward

sonic is definitely not the quintessential platformer that others should be compared against

>>376002483
>it's not about goin 2fast2furious

Then why did this >>376001448 faggot say "hurr its fast paced"? Are you saying my Sonic argument is right in that context then? Wow thanks anon I appreciate it.

>>376002612
It's a fast game, but it's not a game about constantly running in one direction and not stopping, so not sure what youre getting at

And your argument never was valid, the Sonic 1-3&K games' biggest flaw is probably it's perspective. There's plenty of deaths that are simply trial and error that could be fixed with a bigger perspective.

That doesnt turn it into a babby game, it just turns it into a more fair game

But go ahead and defend Sonic games like they're perfect if that's how you feel

Tetris

>>376002943
Are you trying to simplify a sonic game saying you only run in one direction and never stop? Because then I should be the one saying "not sure what youre getting at"

Sonic's perpective was never a flaw, I don't know what the fuck you're smoking, nobody ever complained about it, they had flaws, sure, like the casino shit but perspective was never one of those, just because you believe it is doesn't mean my argument will become invalid just because of that, sorry to burst your bubble, not how it works.

And yes, perspective adds difficulty, the more zoomed in the harder, it is not a concept hard to grasp I'm sure, so idk where this baby fair game talk even come from.

So I can't compare platformers with platformers? When oh when, in my >>376001562 post, ever said sonic was perfect? What the fuck, stop trying to take things out of context please, you're only making me believe you're full of shit and can't contribute anything properly.

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>>376002612
I'm pretty sure Sonic is more unfair than Spelunky with it's cheap instant death shit imo.

>>375999395
It's too bad mean bean machine uses the shitty puyo 1 system instead of the massively superior puyo 2 version.
Just feels awful that you can't do anything about the looming junk puyos ready to drop on you after you place the next one. Rewards fast placement too much over good planning and being able to pop your chain immediately to counter

>>376003242
2D sonic games are literally "Hold Right: the game"

And yes, it being zoomed in does make it more difficult. Turning off your TV while playing a game also makes it more difficult.

The 2D sonic games would only benefit from a larger field of view. And yes, people have complained about that plenty over the years as there are plenty of deaths that you literally could not see coming in Sonic 1-K that have less to do with being skilled and more just not knowing what the fuck is in front of you

I don't even think you know what point you're trying to prove at this point

>>376003779
>2D sonic games are literally "Hold Right: the game"

Thank you, this is what I needed to completely disregard your post, no need to even read further than that so props for saying this at the beggining instead of the end, guess we're done here.

>>375999918
That's not Sonic 3K

>>376001123
It's called Puyo Puyo.

>>376000861
>>376001123
It is a re-skin of Puyo Puyo
It's basically Puyo Puyo: AoStH Edition

>>376003950
>>376003978
Samefag.

>>376001786
>sonic games with a slightly more zoomed out view would only make them so much better though.
No it wouldn't
The view is just fine

Overwatch :D

>>376002252
>except sonic being zoomed in is something that leads to a handful of unfair deaths
Except it doesn't at all if you're not a retard and actually take your time at mastering the game

>>376003902
>he can't come up with a defense other than "sonic did this thing so other games that don't are shit"

Yes, we are indeed done here, kek

>>376004120
>i take quotes out of context because that's the only way I can really prove my flawed point

Of course we are over, are you stupid?

>>376003242
>perspective adds difficulty
Not really
Go play the original Donkey Kong arcade game and tell me that

>>376003779
>2D sonic games are literally "Hold Right: the game"
If you haven't played a Sonic game then please kindly shut the fuck up...thank you

>>376004202
Glad to know you're mentally retarded. When you design a game with a perpective in mind of course you're going to have a specific difficulty, now if that game already existed and you zoomed all the way in when you can't see the barrells, of course it becomes harder, how is this concept hard to grasp for you is beyond me, it's like you have shit instead of a brain.

>>376001562
It's because the game also punishes mistakes far more heavily than Sonic does. The player needs more time to react accordingly to threats.

>>376001561
Lumines has some fucking great music

>>376001561
THIS GAME IS THE BEST GAME EVER

A shame it's doomed to obscurity because Sony sucks. It's honestly up there with the greats like puyo, teris, and panel de pon.

>>376004345
sonic already kills you if you have no rings, how is something punishing mistakes harder than a 1 hit KO?

>>376004183
not that same anon, but your argument makes no sense

you literally said spelunky can't be the greatest because it doesn't have a smaller field of view - based on no other reason then because sonic had a smaller FoV?

sonic is an entirely different kind of game. i don't think the FoV on sonic is anything to complain about, but a smaller FoV in spelunky would only hinder it

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>>376003779
>2D sonic games are literally "Hold Right: the game"
>the view needs to be bigger because there's some hazards you'll just run right into if you keep holding right
Has this argument ever fucking made any sense?

>>376004434
you can make as many mistakes as you want (outside of falling into a pit), just get your ring back ya doofus

>>376004434
In Spelunky, dying means you have to start completely over, and the only reliable healing source is taking something to the end of a level.

>>376004492
I know it is subjective, but difficulty is an important part of a game in order for it to be the greatest, so I understand why you would say my argument makes no sense, but sorry to burst your bubble, because that's in your eyes, so your argument of me making no sense with my argument is the one that makes no sense. See how that works both ways?

>>376004557
>ya doofus

Don't reply me or my wife's son ever again.

>>376004606
Sounds like a shitty game then, no worthy of the "greatest" tier that faggot originally spouted.

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Quite possibly my favorite video game of all time.

>>376004716
>sports games
>ever

Nigger shitskin detected.

>>376004752
You talking shit about Fight Night?

>>376004752
You realize when this video game came out? Black people couldn't afford it then.

Take your underaged ass out of here.

>>376000861
hurr durr its name is puyo puyo!

>>376004792
Sounds like something a nigger would say
>>376004814
>hurr underaged
Nice argument there fagtron you sure showed me with those hot opinions. If you actually knew where what I just said comes from, that should be enough rebuttal to your underage crap.

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>>376004840

>>376004618
>difficulty is an important part of a game in order for it to be the greatest

Spelunky is hellishly difficult though without the need to limit the player's FoV.

It makes sense that you would need to see more around you in a non-linear game that is way less forgiving and punishes you heavily for mistakes

>>376005089
I see, that really makes sense, unlike the rest of fags who have replied to me so far, you actually know what you're talking about, it is a design that works for that game specifically, which I completely understand, thank you for putting it that way anon, easily understandable and with no bullshit. I admit my defeat.

>>376005016
t. bored 15 year old staying up too late on a school night

>>376005226
t. faggot who likes to assume things because he literally has nothing else to stand on

>>376004675
Oh, and the levels are randomly generated, which is why it's in this infinite replayability thread.
I don't know if that'd make it the greatest 2D Platformer, since the levels aren't quite hand designed, but different strokes for different folks.

>>376005437
>Oh, and the levels are randomly generated

Okay you got me, this shit is my jam, I'll have to try it out at the very least.

>>376005437
One of the best examples of procedural generation IMO. It's set so there's always one "main" pathway from the entrance to exit you can follow without any blockades but you can always veer off here and there to explore a cave/sidepath to discover items/whatever if you feel like it

>>376001815
autism

>>376005437
Only time I've seen BS thanks to the level generator was when one enemy spawned inside a shop and the owner decided to turn hostile on my too. But aside from that it's probably the best random generated platfomer I've played.

>>376005948
Nice argument there fagtron you sure convinced me with those hot opinions.

>>375999395
>No offset mechanic.
Fuck off.

>>376006576
You aren't one mean bean then.

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>>375999395
simple?