How does /v/ feel about swat4?

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It's good.

>>375996626
Dead genre, fucking shame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1y-qzUM7Y0

Pretty good but not as good as SWAT 3.

>>375997452
If Ready Or Not ends up actually being good and delivering on everything they're talking about it could be enough for fans of the genre to play pretty much forever.

Loved it at first but grown to dislike it. After having played SWAT 3, I like it even less.

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>>375996626
POLICE, DROP YOUR WEAPON
HANDS UP
GET DOWN, HANDS IN THE AIR

Does anyone have a link to the video? Can't seem to find it/remember.

It's a great game, but someone on /v/ said SWAT 3 was better so I played it for 10 minutes and now say it's better in every SWAT 4 thread.

>>375997663
>being this insecure about your video game taste

>>375997663
Butthurt

what's that new game coming out? Ready or Not?
I saw that school shooter level
is there any games like Swat or RoN with a school shooter aspect too it

>>375997641
the voice acting in that game is really something

I'm pumped just thinking about the lines.

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>>375997850
>mfw first experiencing that fucking cult level

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Sierra is a good development house.

It's like building a house with a good crew. Do you want a bunch of white guys that understand a blueprint? Or do you what a bunch of women of variant races that want to argue about what a blueprint is, and why the blueprint should exist, or why the blueprint should have breasts.

Start micro-managing things when the game already exists. You are killing the dog's bollocks.

>>375996626
Not as good as 3 but still good.

>>375997663
kill yourself

>>375996626
I idea is good, but the game is seriously dated and pretty boring

Its way too easy. If you allow non lethal guns there is no challenge. Which means you have to rely on grenades which is just as easy as long as someone knows how to open a door and someone knows how to throw it.

Am I the only one that REALLY liked SWAT 2? Don't get me wrong, the first person tactical stuff is neat but I loved the feeling of commanding all of SWAT i.e. how many teams to send in, who are on the teams, how to equip them, deploying snipers or not, all based on your budget.

I wish someone would bring that back :(

P.s. yes I know SWAT 2 aged horribly, what with the no friendly AI thing, I just think the concept was great

>>375997819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd139Nin33M

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>>375998116
Have you played Door Kickers? It's a top down real time with pause SWAT game.

>>375998116

Rogue Spear was TOTALLY male oriented. My sister (now an engineer) enjoyed it. Should she be a male now? You destroy feminism by saying that women can't fulfill the job of a man. Stop confusing roles by saying there are some.

>>375998197
breach & clear is better

>>375998197
I have, and I dug it, but it's far more simplified. The management aspect is very light touch, and although there are tons of ways to play the breach, once you're in it's just blasting bad dudes.

I loved how in SWAT 2 you could throw in a drop phone to buy time or actually negotiate, control multiple elements, the tension of not knowing if dude is gonna open up on you when he sees you or run, or just give up.

I know probably 90% of what I feel is nostalgia, but I can't help but feel that a SWAT management game with a deeper door kickers breaching mechanic could be great.

>>375998392
All of the good names for SWAT games have already been taken

>>375998295
W-what?

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>>375996626
>been telling my friends about this game for years
>none of them bother to try it
>suddenly everyone knows about and loves SWAT4 and is trying to tell me about this "great old game I should play"
>mfw

>>375998392
Wasn't that a mobile game?

Is it more fun to play Swat 4 like you're supposed to or as a beanbag shooting gallery sim?

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>>375998295
>>375998023
what in the frickin' heck did he effin mean by this?

>>375998512

If you can't argue the point the maybe you shouldn't. If it's too confusing to you then the point is ibid.

>>375998658
I just wanna talk about SWAT 2 my dude, ever play it?

>>375998652
Man, SWAT 3 has less technically impressive graphics than 4 but really I think it looks better just because of the style they use. Also both have working mirrors but the ones in 4 look awful. I don't know how they did the headcams well but messed the mirrors up so much considering you can use that tech for both things.

>swat 4
It was for poorfags that couldn't afford a rainbow six games

>>375999013
SWAT and R6 aren't even the same type of game. They're both tactical shooters but they focus on different things.

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>>375998830
Well it's a pretty good looking game for 1999 especially the environments which look great for being made in worldcraft.

>>375998652
That mission was god tier

>tfw every tactic I tried failed until I split the team into three and simultaneously breached the three doors along the corridor

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>>375999181

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>this many people on /v/ are somewhat excited about RoN

>>375998798

For sure. SWAT is what I played. That and Rainbow Six as a kid. You move on the corner, shoulder your team and back, BACK and shoot the tango.

Strategic combat is lost to a generation that wasn't 1998-2008, Games literally trained us to be on edge.

>>375996626
stop in wrong direction, I remember it came about same time as Rainbow Six 3 and it was no contest

>>375997741
he rather took different look at swat4 after having a comparison what the series was about beforehand

anyway when the games were coming out - it always felt to me like swat was r6's poor brother

swat3 had to compete with rogue spear, and swat 4 with raven shield, and each time it would swat look more like a novelty game that people would play like 'its simpler rainbow six, but you play as policeman and arrest oponents'

>>376000074
swat 3 blows rogue spear out of the water in every department except for planning

>>376000074

My dad bought my rogue spear on my eight ht birthday and it was like Christmas, Easter, and every holiday together.

Fuck you man, it was so good. I had so much military in my family in spec ops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiSTywA6fHY

>>376000123
combat in r6 was a lot more difficult and was more complex in terms of engaging the enemy and their response

in swat3 the ai was dumb and a lot of times you could simple russ into the room and get away with it

>>375999406
>20 IPs
to be honest I'm impressed

>>376000284
*rush

>>376000325
i've seen a couple of threads about RoN and 4 of SWAT 4 since yesterday.

I rainbowsix siege the modern successor to SWAT?

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>>376000284
>combat in r6 was a lot more difficult and was more complex in terms of engaging the enemy and their response
lol

>in swat3 the ai was dumb and a lot of times you could simple russ into the room and get away with it
confirmed for having never played swat 3

>>376000270
based, good for you

>>376000284
You must have the two games confused. The AI in SWAT 3 have ridiculous awareness and reflexes, can utilize cover and strafe left and right while doing so, lean around corners, and shoot through cover.

>>376000468
yes running point blank with a lmg with ai turned down is pretty hard

>>376000468

i played it a lot when they came out

maybe r6 ai wasnt thought out enough if player wanted to kill team mates as swat was but for a normal playthrough r6 was where it's at

>>376000651
>playing the church level in SWAT 3
>die really early in the level
>decide not to reset and just see what happens
>change view to one of the AI teammates
>they continue banging and clearing each room, arresting the enemy AI, securing hostages, and picking up weapons
>level is completed even though I had no input in it

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>>375997981
>mfw you go down into the basement

>>376000690
sure you did
rainbow six AI has never been able to compete with swat 3 on any level
even in raven shield they fail basic room clearing procedure and there is zero bullet penetration whatsoever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GSpPLvJ85Y

>>376000526

I tradition isn't one, unless you build it.

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>>375998151
>find a bunch of naked hostages

I love Swat 4 just on the basis that there's nothing like it that quite scratches that itch, but I do have some issues with it
>ROE is ridiculously strict. A person charging at you with a shotgun isn't considered a lethal threat because he isn't pointing the barrel straight up your nose quite yet
>At the same time, non lethal options were generally too ubiquitously useful and effective, almost no situations a beanbag shotgun/paintball gun and pepperspray/taser can't cover
>You're in my way, sir

Even then, for all the stress it might have caused, I always could fall back to grabbing an M4 and executing everyone to blow off steam before I tried the mission properly again, so I guess it all evens out.

>play a rogue spear game in tango hunt
> the woman immediately shoots the tango in 2003

>2017
>WHY SHOULD I SHOOT THIS GUY HE MIGHT HAVE A FAMILY
>Gets the whole team killed

Please just shut up and kill him. We don't care what he's thinking when he wants to kill us, fuck.

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>>375999406
>>376000325
>>376001001
Do you guys think the game will actually look like this? I hope so. I'm hoping everything in the trailer is gameplay, just with (besides these few seconds) cinematic camera angles.

>>375998197 #

I played doorkickers and loved it closest thing to swat4 I've played in a while

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Time to reinstall SWAT 3 then I guess.

>>376002783
It's got some issues on modern hardware. Make sure to install the Last Resort mod and use dgvoodoo2. There should be a tutorial somewhere that tells you what steps you have to use.

>>376002920
you don't actually need the last resort mod
i just use it for the easy launcher because i'm one of those autismos that cant stand texture replacements

>>376002920
I've used the Last Resort mod before but then it decided to go tits up for some reason, mind you that was after like 70 hours of playtime. Is dgvoodoo2 essential to use?

>>376003057
http://www.swat3lastresort.info/index.php/fix-framerate-problems

>>376002974
I'm pretty sure it's the only way you're going to get the game running at a decent resolution. Maybe it's possible to do it without it by editing the ini file. Plus it's got some minor fixes and actually does have some texture replacements. Dgvoodoo2 is essential though if you want decent performance, even in some menus. Before I got it working I had to run at 720p to get decent performance and even then it would drop below 60 quite a bit.

>>376003057
Yeah, dgvoodoo2 is needed unless you don't care about performance. Like I said, before using it I had to run at 720p and still didn't have perfect performance. And in some menus the framerate was single digits. It also allows you to force msaa, which I wasn't able to do just by forcing it in my GPU control panel.

>>376003162
>>376003178
Thanks. I'll get right on that.

>>376001529
I really don't know if it'll be any good at all. I can hope, but at the same time my expectations are minimal. I'd like more information about the company to be released first but gameplay footage would also do well to put some of my fears to bed.

>>376003765
Well I mean that image and the gif on their site look like gameplay and it looks fairly good. But yeah, like a 5-10 minute gameplay video would be nice, showcasing a lot of the features they've listed. The "company" is apparently just 3 people.

I just love games where the AI can surprise me, it helps in SWAT that you don't kill everything instantly.

Once I didn't have time to cuff everyone surrendering and forgot a dude in some off corner. When we left the room he got up and took a new weapon from the floor before showing up unexpectedly later on the map. Their different reactions when you enter a room, if several of SWAT comes at once they either shoot back right away or just surrender right up. If you sneak up behind them they might try to run and anything alone they fake surrender and then put your reaction to put em down on the test.

That kind of shit really makes the same maps truly dynamic along with random placements of hostiles and civilians with different resistances towards arrest. Oh and the fact that they roam the map.

SWAT 3 is the superior game, I wish they could just remaster it to work on modern machine, I tried that mod that does it but me and my friends still couldn't find each other using tunngle after a lot of arseache.

YOU FOOLS

YOU'RE IN MY WAY SIR

unpopular opinion time: SWAT 3 is better you guys srsly.

>>376004547
I can't tell if you are joking.