MGSV TPP

>>375985713
I played like Rambo all the way through.

I first I cared about stealth and fultoning people and doing no kills.

After 64 hours...

>I got exhausted with spending 30 minutes to wait for my fucking slight upgrade of an assault rifle to be available (I want to slap the shithead who thought of this)
>I despised spending 1 minute at the beginning of every mission having the credits spoil everything and being reminded that Kojima worked on this (this is unforgivable bullshit)
>I treated motherbase as a really elaborate and annoying menu that kept reminding me to fucking shower or come back for staff morale (fucking really? Just hire some whores and buy a satellite tv)
>I realized the open world was a meme that was just absolute garbage with terrible individual level design and literally nothing interesting outside of main ops
>I stopped doing side ops because I couldn't stand getting rid of the same vehicle squad for the 10th time.
>I realized animal collecting was for autistic folk.
>I became enraged that this game dropped all the humor and camp for the worst story in a MG game ever
>I realized that as a gun-nut all the weapons had a boring tier-aesthetic and that this would never change
>I came to understand that nobody giving the game a good review played past chapter 1.
>I became completely disinterested in getting soldiers or managing motherbase (they're all a bunch of pointless npcs anyways). Oddly enough by the time the "kill your dudes" mission came up I was completely detached from the personnel at motherbase.

After all this I just murdered everything with flamethrowers and anti-material sniper rifles and tanks and mortar strikes.

Another retarded decision what's with the ranking limits on weapons and equipment? I never used any of this stuff until the end game because it would arbitrarily keep me from an S rank which sure as shit doesn't mean skill anymore.

>>375985713
I thought it was stupid as fuck having a hidden EVILLLLLL meter so I never bothered with killing because fuck that edgy blood soaked look.

Can't believe this game is gonna be 2 years old soon and I still haven't beat it. I'm not even close to it.

>>375986782
Your last point is a really good one, actually

50% of the equipment blocking you from S-Ranks also made me just sort of never use them which is a retarded design choice because I unlocked those, payed for them with GMP and waited out the 450,000 year development time and my reward is an item that keeps me from achieving my goals?

What the fuck?

And why? Are they really that concerned I might beat Metal Gear too fast or something? That it might be somewhat easier than if I didn't use it?

Literally no fun allowed in MGSV

>>375985713
kidnap
shoot nigger in face from 200 yards

no in betweens
each base is meant to be 100% no compromises

>>375987580
I don't fucking know. Even the later upgrades to the battledress armor and the sneaking suit do the same fucking thing.

I just don't understand this.

If this was all Kojima, why did nobody tell him that this was retarded? Like you literally waste hundreds of man hours on items that most players will never even use because they don't want to be kicked down to an A rank despite never being seen once or killing anyone.

The same goes for the chicken hat. You spent at least ten hours to make, test, and balance that stupid thing when nobody is going to humiliate themselves by using it. Wolfenstein did literally the same thing with a still image and some text. The only people who are going to touch it are dudes that are just fooling around with the AI, which you already have the box, sneaking suit, and active camo to do it with.

In MGS games I just crawl and use the tranq gun, that's all you ever need.

>>375987112
There's no way to go through this game without killing anyone. You have to kill your own infected soldiers in that one mission

>>375985713
MGSV is literally the definition of dominate strategy.

You have almost a hundred different pieces of equipment, but 90% of them do something that D-Dog and Quiet can do by just selecting them in the buddy menu.

Sure it gets boring having Quiet snipe everything, but I S-ranked every mission I brought her on just by running like a retard and giving her the fire at will.

>>375988486
Are you autistic? I'm sure he didn't literally mean everyone.

Love the Sniper rifles with silencers that can puncture armor and 1-2 shot enemy helicopters.

>>375988486
I think only 3% of the player base had the tolerance to reach that mission.

I do know I hated bloody venom. It ruined the progression feel of going into a mission clean and coming back bloody. It was also kinda retarded that they made it a thing when A) You have to kill the skulls if you want to keep your sanity B) almost 66% of the equipment is lethal C) It ruins stealth so it basically locks you out of gameplay style until you fulton twenty kids out of Africa.

I always want to only kill when is necessary because I feel like despite venom being a big boss clone he has enough memories of mgs 3 snake in him that he'd still not be an asshole. But I can't make myself get immersed in the game enough like I can 3 where I genuinely care all the way through and play like a fucking larper, so I just start completing missions in the easiest way possible. Usually by trying to sneak quickly, getting caught, and just shooting half the base and doing the objective.

Playing mgs v makes me feel sad, I hate it and love it at the same time.

>>375988983
>Roast a two hundred people alive with a flamethrower
>you're a demon now
>fulton twenty uneducated, drug-addicted child soldiers out of Africa and trap them on an oil rig with no therapy sessions and dangerous equipment everywhere
>You're a good boy boss

Morality systems are beyond retarded.

>>375989149
venom was just a medic

>>375986782
You should try a new playthrough with mods that do all the tedious sidework bullshit for you.

I did a new playthrough with a mod that unlocks everything on base, auto completes all the side ops so I didn't have to do a single one and gives you whatever buddies you want from the getgo( buddies are fucking lame to me so I don't use them)

The game is still awful as far as mgs goes, I don't even give a fuck about the canon anymore or MUH MISSING LINKS, I just genuinely wanted a coherent narrative and fuck tons of stupid historically accurate cutscenes that are used to push some dumb b level movie villains retarded master plan over the edge while snake says dumb shit

But, with all the busywork out of the way it was a lot more enjoyable.

Also sorry if this post seems like autism, mobile posting is fucking hard

>>375989463
Sorry I didn't mean clone, I meant doppleganger, but I was mainly referring to all that brainwashing shit ocelot did to him while he was in the coma.

>>375986782
>>375987580
>>375988092

These are all extremely valid points. I don't know how game devs can spend time implementing stuff like that (the S rank thing) without thinking it through properly either.

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What are the best mods to use with this game?

>>375989664
I'm not sure Venom knew too much though, he only has about 10 lines in the game.
Venom mostly just wanders around doing whatever Miller tells him to so he can act like Big Boss despite not really acting like he cares too much, kind of like someone just trying to pass off knowledge by saying as little as possible except generic questions.. He also stares at Skullface for 5 minutes straight when he finally meets him, those rocks in his head probably gave him brain damage and he forgot why he was even there.

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>start off tactically and stealthy
>fast forward 60 hours
>give up and just run around in armor and all lethal loadout alongside Quiet with orders to shoot to kill
Doing pure stealth becomes boring after a while. The story is also crap so I just stopped caring

>>375989869
Probably part of the reason Konami cut Kojima off.

The man spent literally millions making a game with so few quality of life elements and so many obvious, rookie mistakes that it boogles my mind. How in the hell is this the same guy and team that made the previous metal gear games.

It actually shocks me because the most pace-breaking element of MGS, those 20 minute long cutscenes and codex calls, are absent in V. Yet there are so many little things that keep you from engaging with the stealth action.

>research unlocks
>rank restricting gear
>helicopter flights out the ass
>bosses that you can only take down with really unsubtle strategies
>open world bullshit forcing more helicopter flights.

>>375989607
I think the tedious sidework is just a tiny thing that's part of a more annoying piece.

I don't recall one single location in MGSV that was as fun or engaging to sneak through as the Marine base in GZ. So, I don't think I'll ever return to it over say MGS 2, 3, 1, or even 4.

>>375990714
don't blame you. My yearly mgs replay ends at 4. I removed peace walker and 5 from my memory banks.

>>375990601

Seems like Kojima has gone senile, or really just was sick of making games, he needs to move on to hollywood already, I am sure his Death Standing game will be terrible.

It's a shame I used to like Kojima back in the day but he's really gone to shit since. Not surprisingly with MGS5 being bad though, MGS4 was also fucking garbage. 1, 2 and 3 are the only good games in the whole series.

>>375990312
the game should've just been fully about PTSD. PTSD venom never experienced, PTSD about his old memories, PTSD like the guilt he has over paz and chico's death, PTSD about all the stress of having to be big boss and deal with all the death around him.

The themes were too shallow and there were too many of them in this game, and almost none of them get fleshed out. I wouldve preferred a more straightforward game doing a smaller set of things averagely instead of a bad game trying to do everything at once badly.

>>375990867
I don't think it's healthy to try to replay 5 yearly.

>>375990206

Infinite Heaven hands down. Learn how to set it up and get over the stupid menu it has to use, then tweak it to your liking.

That, The Sniper Wolf outfit without the blonde and choker, and the real weapon names thing (despite being half finished) is literally all I need.

No one's managed to reverse engineer the AI route files and tables, so you can't add or mod npcs.

AI behavior mods are totally off the table because it's baked into the denuvo protected executable, so we'll never be able to add or modify AI routines or add new factions.


JUST

>>375990929
He was probably just tired of making Metal Gear games.

Silent Hills was really damn good despite being a repeating hallway and it was the best Silent Hill thing to be released since SH 3.

There are parts of me that think he and his team just grossly managed MGSV. There is no way that a veteran game studio should've fucked this up without complete management failure. This game already had its concept, backstory, and central gameplay focus laid out by the others in the series, yet it took more than two years to make and it came out with this many obvious design oversights, bloat, and tedium.

>>375991347
>add new factions.

Where there goes the dreams of adding actual Afghan rebels that the Soviets are supposed to be fighting.

>>375991347

What a shame, MGS5 could be a cool potential little sandbox war sim if AI could be modded and you could set up battles between NPC factions and armies.

Fucking denuvo. Why the hell is AI baked into the exe?

>>375991347
Are there any mods that replace the Tornado-6 with the Single Action Army?

>>375991507

Even if you could add them hypothetically, it would be pretty damn limited.

Other mods for the game already prove the engine can only handle so many npcs in an area before the game crashes. Then again if you could mess around with that code in the .exe, one could probably fix that too.


The solution is to steal the Fox Engine.

>>375991729
Only hope we have is they release dev tools of some kind with survive, but that won't even fix it, it'll never be the same

I'm around the 40 hr mark and I've started playing more lethal and care free. on main missions I usually try to be stealth and use tranq and cqc only but for instance I shot my way out that mission where you have to escort the child soliders to the chopper.

I also mass murdered the entire airport in Africa after doing that side op where you have to rescue the people in the high ground. not sure how much that fucker up my good/evil meter but it was super fun.

>>375991950
>they release dev tools

Some dude will probably find them lying around in an attic and either give them back to Konami or make a pc out of them.

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5 minutes til my install finishes. wish me luck bros.

any tips?

I already know what happens in the game thanks to reading /v/ threads about it so spoiler away.

excuse the shitty internet

>>375992234
You start off with basically nothing. Use your tranq pistol or your CQC to knock people out, then you kidnap them and bring them to you base for them to work

>>375992234

crawl alot
infiltrate large open missions at night
don't forget to accept challenge rewards, I was 30 hours in with my base moving at a snails pace before I realized.
tranq is best friend

>>375992234
Chapter 2 is shit

S rank stands for Speed not skill

Dont bother with the sideops at once, they absolutely murder your enjoyment of the game.

The game has a morality system but it doesn't matter until you kill 400 people, and then you just fulton 20 kids and you're okay.

Infiltrate at night most of the time

Sneaking suit is really good

Fulton most dudes by tranq'ing them

Don't play the game in long spurts (it has a lot of mechanics designed to annoy you over a long play session).

>>375992234

It's not user friendly at all but if we were psychic and you knew exactly what to do even before starting the game up for the first time, I'd tell you to install IH right away and skip some of the BS.

But it's not too user friendly and you have to experiment with it even when the settings are laid out for you.

THAT SAID if you ever play this a second time or restart this round, install that mod and just enable everything--optional patrols, all enemy/heavy variants, all vehicles and reinforcements, the works--and set enemy sight lines and hearing to realistic values so that they see you clear across fields and large valleys in the day and hear you in the area if you run around or trip over shit.

It brings actual strategy into the mix but it's also tough to s rank and frustrating if you screw up.

>>375992234
Don't expect anything elaborate or intricate

Things like being able to shoot a guards radio to cut him off from his crew or hurting their individual limbs are absent

In fact, if one guard catches you ALL of them are INSTANTLY alerted and aware of your exact location until you hide (They are all telepathic, apparently)

Also don't use Quiet or D-Dog, they play the game for you and there's already no content in the game whatsoever

Also the intro sequence is the most interesting part of the entire game so it's nice of them to put that up front for us

>>375992234
Download an emulator and play mgs3 instead.

>>375993107
Did they remove the feature where every single guard is in heavy armor? That shit was pretty tedious, especially if you got caught.

>punishes you for killing people

You pretty much guarantee from the get-go that 90% of the game is going to be done with LTL gear.

They might as well have had 1 tranq rifle and the water pistol and literally nothing else.

Stay low and crawl along the ground. That should enable you to sneak past enemies.

>There are cucks who believe the original bandana was green.
>What are filters
http://www.nexusmods.com/metalgearsolidvtpp/mods/169/?

Also I wanted to murder kaz after like 15 minutes, that nigga never shuts up

>>375985713

Absolutely NUCLEAR at the start, but as I realized it was all a ruse, I slowly played in non-lethal borderline silly ways to get stuff done.

It was then I learned that smoke grenades were probably one of the best items in the game if you go for stealth+non-lethal.

>>375993475
>http://www.nexusmods.com/metalgearsolidvtpp/mods/169/

I think it's a percentage.

So you enable the feature and then set it either to the IH preset or "custom" or something, and then you can alter the distribution of the weapons and equipment like machineguns, shotguns, rifles, NVGs, heavy armor, shields, etc..

There are loads of menus buried in other menus though so it's a freaking pain to navigate but there's like no other way to do a custom interface in the game apparently.

>>375989210
You forgot to mention how they let them run away with a giant robot at the end and never do anything about it.

>>375985713
I went from ghosting with CQC to exclusively using decoy balloons and combat dives to dispatch all enemies.