Where is he?

>>375983869
fucking around

In Atlus' basement with Nyarly and Kaneko.

>>375983869
Having gay tentacle sex with Nyarlathotep

Behind you

>>375984231
>>375984036
>>375984263
>>375983945
All canon

>>375983869
He's the butterfly

>>375983869
Stalking Joker like the faggot butterfly he is

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not helping

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He never left anon

>Punch Philemon
>Knock his mask off
>Philemon is literally me
>I punched myself

lol he got me good

>>375983869
In P6 because Igor is retired now.

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>>375984986
>tfw you're a tights wearing fag and hit yourself
how can thou ever recover?

>>375984986
STOP HITTING YOURSELF

Never coming back along with Nyarly since the guy who wrote them left Atlus ages ago, and Japs for some reason hate the idea of using another person's character

>>375985471
Hashino loves the idea of ripping off the first 2 games though.

>>375983869
probably sitting around kek'ing at everything that has happened since P3

i was really hoping that Phil would somehow be involved in P5

>>375985546
Hell P5 is P2 lite

>>375985760
And PQ is just P1 with a shitty hypothetical situation and timegod gimmick

He still shows up at one point also the only point where the butterfly does not talk to the mc so its most likely him

>>375983869
He realized that humans really are stupid niggers and swore off fucking with them, also >>375984231

>>375983869
Everytime you see a butterfly in the games, it's Philemon.

No, really, that's the explanation.

That and persona writing has gone to shit and no longer cares about cool stuff like jungian philosophy that's not ankle-deep or lovecraft, so yeah.

>>375987234
Except in P5 it wasn't even.

>>375987234
>Everytime you see a butterfly in the games, it's Philemon.
but this wasn't true in P5

>>375987234
Kinda mad that the wiki states that he does straight up not appear in 5 even tough its not clear if lavenza is the butterfly or not the butterfly might be phile and maybe his pressense gives you the strength to hear lavenzas voice she is trapped inside the two twins so i still highly doubt she is the butterfly

>>375986373
And Persona 3 is just a retell of the Snow Queen quest

>>375987387
>>375987361
Is there any way to 100% confirm this other than the wiki saying so? Not trying to argue with you but isnt lavenza trapped inside the twins split up and all? She cannot also be the butterfly right?

>>375987585
She literally says that the butterfly was her trying to contact you and it has her voice.

>>375987524
That's a bit mean, it's a sequel to it.

>>375983869
Didn't he fuck up the world with his cosmic dick measuring contest against Nyarlothep and decide to not get in the way anymore?

>>375987641
Oh...but wasnt there one part in the game near the end where the butterfly appears again without talking to you? It just happens once i still think thats phile

>>375985760
>Hell P5 is P2 lite

More specifically P2EP.
Yaldy = Nyarly
Shido = Tatsuzou Sudou
Akechi = Tatsuya Sudou

>>375987728
Not that I recall.

>>375985616

With good reason, too. His side of the board has been completely fucking Nyarly's.

Erebus destroyed on an yearly basis, Izanami chilled the fuck out, yabadabadoo shot in the face.

Sure Nyarly has the Maya and Tatsuya timebomb but he stil needs to step his game up

>>375987728
Don't remember that specifically, that could still be Lavenza for all we know.

Hell we don't even know what's up with the attendants in the first place. Who are they? What are they? Where'd they come from? What's their connection to Phile?

They've must've had some answer prepared when they made P3, don't know why it hasn't come up.

>>375987458
>>375987585
>>375987641
>>375987728
What if Lavenza IS Philemon? You'd think fucking with Igor would provoke him into stepping in somehow, yet he doesn't. Perhaps Lavenza is his avatar and splitting her into Caroline and Justine was Yaldabaoth's way to keep him out of his way. It's kind of a stretch, but she DOES have the butterfly shit going on. She has to be seriously related to Philemon somehow.

>>375988013
>Hell we don't even know what's up with the attendants in the first place. Who are they? What are they? Where'd they come from? What's their connection to Phile?
Did he not create all of them like he did Igor? Not sure where else they could have came from.

>>375987921
>>375988013
Please dont let this be one of those mandela situations i clearly 100% remember the butterfly being in one scene just not talking to you it was also after the lavenza reveal which makes my belief that its phile even stronger please anybody else?

>>375988063
Philemon and P1/2 are dead anon

just let it go

The real question is what kind of fucking cuck comes up with an ending where everyone loses their cool outfits and abilities

>>375988063
Well isnt one of philemons abilitys shapeshifting? It wouldnt be too outa this world for phile to be the attendant maybe phile looks different in every velvet room iliteration

>>375985546
Hashino said he's done with Persona for now, though. He's heading up that Fantasy game instead.

>>375988063
I was tossing around the idea that the Velvet Room attendants are all separate parts of Phil, like he got fragmented into different entities. Would kind of explain why they show up right when he leaves.

I don't really know how or why this would happen. But that's some sort of explanation.

>>375988156
No there is a scene after the velvet room disappears with a butterfly flying past without saying anything.

>>375988162
In an interview devs confirmed that phile is the butterfly in 3 and 4 they even confirmed that the nameless pianist and the opera singer are also still attendents inside the velvet room

>>375988291
All attendants are individuals, though, they've been together at various points.

>>375988135
>>375988013
The velvet room was created by Phil to assist humanity or those allied with him.
Igor and the attendants are there to give power to whoever Phil wants. In P2 they say this.
They're just Phil's servants.

So Phil grew bored of not doing anything and became a little girl?

>>375988373
That fucking has to be phile iam not crazy
Lavenza would not leave you without atleast saying something even a little goodbye

>>375988291
I don't think Phil has ever shape shifted. Nyarly is the one we see with the ability to change his appearance at will.

>>375987234

from 3 to onward is a waifu simulator.

Technically modern Persona games are a VN.

>>375988532
But phil is the butterfly right? Isnt that basicly shapeshifting?

>>375988357
Perhaps Nyarlathotep got the best of him. Or maybe they got the best of each other and are both fragmented.

Inb4 Nyarly goes full Xehanort and reappears after all his components are defeated.

>>375988660
Yea you're right. I thought you meant in the context of turning into someone else.

>>375988752
Thank god that Hashino isn't going to touch persona again, hopefully it'll be good again

>>375989046
I wouldn't count on it. The next guy is gonna ape the current style far harder than Hashino aped P2, it's just so damn marketable.

>>375988386
How the hell do they fit a damn limo?

>>375983869
Anywhere but the new timeline
Fucker ruins everything he touches

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>Get "spoiled" in P5
>Friend tells me the Cat is Philemon after losing his memory and that Nyarlothotep is Soujiro fucking with you
>Soujiro acts shady and unlikable
>He lives in a creepy house
>Futaba's persona is Necronomicon
>Get hyped up for eventual reveal
>mfw nothing ever happens

I'm still mad

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>>375989416
>Fucker ruins everything he touches
So like almost every MegaTen antagonist/important figure and most of the protagonists?

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>Can't play the original Persona 1 because it's in Japanese
>Can't play the localized version because of the terrible translation and white washing/black washing
>Can't play the PSP remake because of the awful music
>Nobody cares because nobody wanted to play Persona 1 in English

That's the real tragedy of all this.

>>375987808
Yeah, noticed that as well
I wonder which rehash we'll get next

>>375988214
Morgana said that the real world is also shaped by cognition, and him being able still be around after the metaverse is gone is proof of that. He even says he could still turn human. Plus, Joker only gets The World after Yaldabaoth was destroyed and the Metaverse was gone, which implies that he still has the power of the Wild Card. It's pretty clear they could still have access to their powers. Plus, in P4 Arena it's heavily implied that the Investigation Team could use their Personas outside of the TV World (which is pretty similar to the Metaverse) if they had Invokers, as the P3 cast didn't need to use them within the TV World.

So wait for P5 Arena.

>>375989702
Just play bad translation or learn Jap, nigger

>>375989839
Bad translation doesn't have half it's content, cunt.

>>375989702
>>Can't play the PSP remake because of the awful music

Still mad about that. To make matters worse it just sounds awful through the tiny psp speakers.

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>>375989702
>>375989965
https://mega.nz/#!HJEXHJqC!ky5Ra5W8n5zJr12JMDWWHuH1w0zFpwnbZvCCTymzMAI
Patch to put the old music in the PSP version, not perfect (some will still be missing due to the portable version having less track files) but does the job and you don't have to subject yourself to literally Revelations Persona. Definitely give the game a shot, it's fucking great and painfully underrated.

>>375989935
Don't give a fuck

>>375987808
5MC=JOKER=Jun=Yusuke

>>375989702
>>375989965
>>375990106
What's wrong with the music?

I liked "Dream of Butterfly", " Lone Prayer", and especially "School Days".

>>375990434
I will give a fuck for you.

Be grateful, nigger faggot.

>>375989702
>>375989965
I actually didn't mind the music, but it sucks that they used the remake music in the P5 DLC pack.

>>375983869
I thought he expended all his energy at the end of P2 Eternal Punishment so he never no longer really do much since he's recovering

>>375983869
He's the butterfly

>>375990698
It's not bad, but the original tracks are fucking legendary
https://youtu.be/lTMrtrK8Xf4
https://youtu.be/ChkMHPP8rv0

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>>375990884
Not this time.

>>375990698
It's just completely different from the original music and some people just hate the vocals.

I mean compare this to Bloody Destiny, they're not remotely the same (skip to 1:01)
https://youtu.be/ChkMHPP8rv0

>>375990910
Am I missing something? These don't sound nearly good enough to skip an entire game for. The PSP music is good

>>375990727
I am, that's why I'm playing PS1 version and don't give a fuck

>>375990910
>>375990995
The Main Battle Theme sounds way too busy. If they remixed that like what they did in the P2PSP ports then I'm sure it'd be loads better.

But I do agree that the Boss Theme is pretty fucking good.

>>375991030
There's around 160 tracks in PS1 version
And around 36 of jpop shit in PSP version

>>375989701
Have yet to play P2. What's the pizza meme about?

>P1 soundtrack
>Ambient techno soundtrack with melancholic overtones and deep basslines
>P1 PSP soundtrack
>J-POP

How could Meguro fuck up that badly? It's almost as if he had nothing to do with the original soundtrack.

He might come back next time since we'll have a new director.

>>375989358
Front seats.

>>375991030
They fit the atmosphere far more than the new ones do. Many people also just dislike j-pop, and I personally feel it's far too repetitive to have as the entire soundtrack of a dungeon crawler.

>>375990973
That's him

>>375990973
If Lavenza was butterfly and Phil was butterfly, then Lavenza is Phil?????

>>375991294
>It's almost as if he had nothing to do with the original soundtrack.
Probably because he wasn't directly in charge of the game's soundtrack.

I really don't think he belongs in any new Persona games, and it's for the best that he's not in them. I like both the PS1 and the modern Persona games, but they're nowhere near similar to each other.

>>375984036
Hopefully the new director doesn't have Hashino's faggy hang ups about using the pre-P3 stuff.

>I just can't use any of it I have too much respect for what those guys did, honest!
>meanwhile the characters are mothballed and Atlus treats the series as if it didn't exist before P3

>>375991294
> It's almost as if he had nothing to do with the original soundtrack.

Well he did actually work on the original, I believe 16 tracks were done by him; mostly the ambient ones. That being said yea he did really drop the ball with the remake.

>>375991578
>meanwhile the characters are mothballed and Atlus treats the series as if it didn't exist before P3

Looks like a certain faggot never checked the TV in 3 or 5.

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>>375991505
Motherfucker pulled a Lucifer.

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>>375991294
https://youtu.be/WAgr6wtJOuw?t=54m36s

Who knows. I'm specially mad about how good Deva Yuga was in the original.

>>375991681
I think what is worse is the version of the Aria in the remake. Shoji literally wrote the original so how the hell did he fuck it up. Better yet why the hell wasn't P2's version remade as well?

>>375990973
Why is Lavenza the cutest? I want to protect her smile forever.

>>375990910
The reduction of music tracks is the real tragedy of the PSP version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx5Mq2et3JA

>>375983869
>Where is he?
who gives a fuck

>>375987974
>Sure Nyarly has the Maya and Tatsuya timebomb but he stil needs to step his game up
Honestly if Atlus decided to just reboot Persona or something (a real one, not a soft reboot) they need to do that. Bring back Tadashi and just make it Nyarly's final plan. Bring in cast members from all of the games, maybe a new MC to step up or something and just go balls out.

>>375990698
Vastly inferior to the original and unlike IS and EP you're not given the option to use the original soundtrack (and IS/EP are basically just higher quality re-arrangements compared to whwat was done with P1).

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>>375990973
They are really trying to make it like as if P1 and P2 never existed aren't they?

>>375992290
Refer to >>375991668

Katsuya even got a mention in P5

What level should my party be at for the Reaper fight and NG+ boss fight?
I want to actually try them for a change and I'd like to actually fight the Reaper instead of cheesing it

>>375992220
>Bring back the faggot who puts his self insert and a character based on his favourite actress into games and makes them a couple

If Philemon was in modern Persona he'd be an awkward tomgirl romance option with the social link finishing with you taking her to art class to discover that we all wear masks. (whoa)

>>375991294
Meguro wasn't anywhere near as involved with Persona until P3. He did some stuff with P1 but that was mainly Kenichi Tsuchiya and a few others. Tsuchiya and some different people did IS and EP; Meguro had no involvement whatsoever musically on P2 or its remakes

>>375992343
Minor references don't mean shit, they say how they don't want to use the story elements from P1 & P2 but then they pretty much recycle Nyarly in P4 Arena.

>>375988704
>Xehanorts of Ikutsuki, Izanami, Shadow Shido, that Jesus lookalike, Yaldy, etc

Not sure how half of these would work.

>>375992780
>Meguro had no involvement whatsoever musically on P2 or its remakes

No, he did the remake's music too. Look it up.

>>375992758
Persona has truly been a waifufag game since the beginning.

>>375992758
At least he stopped that in EP after all the complaints from IS.

You'd rather that or the guy that copies the old games and calls it ORIGINAL DO NOT STEAL?

My man let his homeboy get sat on for like 10 months by Yaldy because he was too tired

>>375992758
>Tadashi was a huge waigu-fag
>fans call him out on his waifu-faggotry
>now the Persona fan base is nothing but waifu fagottry

Man how times have changed.

>>375992780

Dream of butterfly and School days are 1,000,000% meguro

>>375990698
It's a P4-like soundtrack into a game with a very different tone and atmosphere.

>>375992880
Maybe he meant he wasn't involved in the original music. Meguro didn't work on P2's music when it came out initially.

>>375989702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HCfcNcURzQ
Why can't we go back to fucking stupid music like this?

no really, I love this track. Good thing it was still in the remake.

>>375992786
We'll see Nanjo and friends in P5 Arena.

Surely.

>>375992880
If you're refering to the remakes of P2IS and EP than that was all done by Toshiki Konishi, Ryota Koduka and Atsushi Kitajoh. The only song Shoji is credited for is the Poem and Unbreakble Ties.

>>375992758
Death threats were not enough

>>375991578
I feel if pre-P3 characters get used they'll end up like SMTIV Apocalypse Nozomi. Or if they survive "better" they end up Chie and Akihiro

>>375992786
PQ was Maki's story except with a dead chick.

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>>375993054
>the song title is "child abuse"
Kek, that's great.

>>375993083
What the fuck has Nanjo been doing? How has he and Katsuya not found out about the events in P3, P4, and P5?

>>375993117
>Atsushi Kitajoh

That Maya's theme he did was great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UUlE-n_AFU

Guys, chill the fuck out.

Pascal the dog is here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb45pLOueOE

>>375993237
Maya's theme is so good.

>>375992758
It's an acceptable trade off for better writing.

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>>375993231
Arena seemed to allude that him and Katsuya had joined forces with Mitsuru.

But then Ultimax happened and took a shit on everything you were hoping/looking forward to from Arena.

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People actually like P1 and P2? Why?

>>375993231
The Nanjo group was briefly mentioned being in competition with Kirijo when everyone went to the beach in P3

>>375993315
Is it mandatory to fuse him into cerberus for the echo building boss fight?

>>375993363
Makes more sense than people liking P4.

Was there anything redeeming about that trash fire?

>>375993337

>Let's show you this still and not elaborate on it
>Let's list Sho as "P5_Hero" for no reason
>Let's establish this giant character arc of Liz going on her own fool's journey to fuck shit up and then just forget about

I'm mad that I enjoy arena as a fighter because I have to remember all this while I'm doing OMCs and EX juggles

>>375993429
No, but it saves your doggo from nuclear hellfire and even lets him fight alongside you to endgame so you'd fucking better.

>>375993429
no, but why wouldn't you?

>>375993231
Nanjo group funds the P3 school and were indirectly involved in creating Tartarus and artificial persona users in trinity iirc

No idea why such an obvious potential cameo hasn't been adressed at all

>>375993231
It's even weirder considering that the Kirijo Group came directly from the Nanjo Group. If any previous characters have an easy in to show up again it's him (and maybe Eri).

>>375993363
P1 has good dungeon crawling, interesting combat, and a cool story that handles its themes well. The P2 games tell one of the best stories in vidya but have worse gameplay. Go play them, they're nowhere near as bad as people say.

>>375993469
>Was there anything redeeming about that trash fire?

That's an easy answer, the Super lonely depressed people loved playing the main character who was beloved by all. It was their favourite game because finally they had friends.

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>>375993383
>competition

Two in harmony, anon. They work together.

>>375983869
Hopefully being eaten by a bird somewhere.

>>375989623
this but nyarlothotep is behind the metaverse and is final boss would have made p5 11/10 imo.

>>375993337
>>375993383
>>375993506
>>375993525
Atlus is too busy giving us more Teddie and Yosuke to care about shit like characters people actually want.

>>375993337
Wait so that's obviously Kei, Katsuya and who vaguely look like Ulala and Eriko the left right?

>>375993481
Does he really die if you don't fuse him?
Surely Thorman wouldn't kill a dog

>>375993679
And Arena as well, but Atlus forgot

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>>375993696
The guy in the furthest left with just an arm may be Baofu.

>>375993818
>Reiji
My money's on Mark.

>>375993791
Arena had one writer, but then when Ultimax came they got 7 writers who had never done anything for Persona before. One of them being an Adachifag that used some of his fanfiction.

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>>375993874
Look at the pose carefully.

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>>375993717
Weapons dont have feelings, anon. Nuclear bombs are no different.

So want Atlus to either go full on with Arena or Q to go full Smash with Persona. Every member of the main crews of Persona & if...

They already got 3D models of the uniforms with the P5 DLC, just go full force.

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>>375993971
>Strikes the same pose 20 years later
We playin this game? It's gonna be based Brown.

>>375993717
No, if you don't fuse Pascal he'll end up fusing with a demon by himself while he's away. I never fused Pascal when I first played SMT 1 but when I was at the end going to the Great Cathedral I found Pascal again who was already a Cerberus when he rejoined the party.

>>375993337
Maybe P5 Arena will fix this? Hopefully?

>>375994145
It's clearly Reij. He's got more reason to join a secret club than Brown since he's a poorfag trying to support his kid.

>>375983869
>Implying persona babies nowadays even know who he is
There are tons of newcomers to the series with the release of P5 compared to the old fans. This was the case too when P4 came out.
I bet by the next entry of the game, 80% of the players can't even tell who is cameo and/or recurring characters.

>>375994332
It's clearly Mark because they need a dance instructor to help the P5 crew out when they get stuck in a world where they gotta GET FUNKY to kill Shadows.

>>375994539
>implying it won't be Goro teaching them how to dance instead

Do you even Smooth Criminal?

>>375993818
>Nanjo
>Not #1
What the fuck are you doing nigger

Operating on a higher level of existence, or deeper in the sea of souls or something.

Remember in Persona 2, the last time he directly interfered, and THE WHOLE FUCKING UNIVERSE DIED?

He renegotiated the deal with Nyarly. Now Nyarly empowers a mythological figure to do weird shit with people's Shadows, and Philemon chooses a persona user to make friends and save the day.

>>375994714
I didn't number this.

>>375993818
#3 could be Micheal rite?

>>375994898
Impossible since he cannot summon his persona in the current universe or it would cause disaster.

>>375994765
One universe is really minor stuff in the grander scale of SMT.

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>>375994585
>Mark, Akechi, Adachi, Yu, Joker, and Rise form a dance crew
>They challenge rival Shadows to dance-offs in exchange for their turf
>When they finally take over the Shadow City, they have to beat Nyarlathotep with fresh moves and the power of friendship
>"Truly... they were... dancing all night..."
>Philemon high fives Tatsuya and peaces the fuck out

>>375994930
Oh i didnt know that. I never got out of the fire museum

I like it!!!!!!!

>>375994992
>Adachi

No. His dancing is shit.

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>>375994992
>this guy's shadow is the secret true ending final boss

>>375995148
The story needs to have some internal conflict between the heroes.

>>375995078
>>375994930
Wait, which one again?

>>375995437
Persona 2

>>375995437
The one listed at #3. He can't be Eikichi.

>>375995493
>>375995496
Ah, Eikichi
Makes sense because of Erebrus, i guess

>>375995746
Nevermind, it's because of Xibalba, sorry

>>375995746
No because of what happens in EP. If he summons a persona, then he remembers, and if he remembers then the current universe is at risk to be destroyed by the Other Side. Same with Lisa, Jun, and Tatsuya.

>>375995824
Dammit anon you made me type all this.

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>>375993818
#5 looks more like Maki than Yukari

>>375995879
I thought Tatsuya already remembered though

>>375996024
That Tatsuya goes back to the Other Side. The current universe's Tatsuya doesn't remember anything.

>>375996005
It's literally Yukari's signature pose.

>>375992758
at least his self insert was portrayed as a useless fuck up who was only there for laughs

besides the weird ass convenience stores still made it worth it

>>375996005
But that's the Maki that never got a Persona?

>>375995879
Yeah, sorry
I forgot

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>>375993818
#8 is clearly Yuki

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>>375996561
Why would she be wearing a two-decade-old uniform?

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>>375996561
Why would she be wearing her school uniform from over a decade ago?

>>375990698
I actually did like a couple of the new tracks better, like the new Deva Yuga

It was weaker overall for the most part, though

>>375996467
She looks like she's standing near Reiji, she could be a support-move kind of character for him like how she helped him out in Persona 2.

>>375996561
I thought that at first too, I like her old outfit style better than her P2 design.

>>375996561
>cutting her hair and wearing her old uniform

Anon please.

>>375996658
>>375996684
Damn

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>>375995362
But Piercy's shadow is a chill guy that just wants to play vidya all day

>>375996658
>>375996684
i doubt its actually her uniform, more like some trenchcoat that just happens to look the same

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>>375991470
>fuck Lavenza
>as you release inside her her face falls off
>it's your face in place of her own
>I am Philemon, a dweller in the rift between consciousness and unconsciousness of all souls... I am you. You are me... I shall always watch over you from within. Farewell...

>>375998461

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>>375998534
Fug, forgot picture.

Is P2 EP PSP translated yet?

>>375998605
Not yet, but keep a watch on this.
https://iwakuraproductions.wordpress.com/

>>375997286
What if that vidya was DDR?

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>>375995362
>>375997286
>>375998924
His shadow's just too chill.
But the real Piercy isn't.

>>375993315
Pascal the dog is here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peK_XXaDR5E

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>>375999087
PERSONA!

>>375999228
Fucking kids. Where did they even get all that glue.

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>>375999087

>>375992758
>this negates that he was an infinitely better writer than what we currently have

>>375993315
>>375999228
Pascal the dog is here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVCD_qlpKDg

>>375999820
Heard Caligula was garbage.

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Threadly reminder that Lisa Garland sells herself to old men for money.

>>376000154
That's fine, as long as my pure waifu Lisa Silverman doesn't.

>>376000236
Anon...

>>375993818
Why can't we get a game with this cast? I'll even take Shitkari being there if it means getting Nanjo, Katsuya, Ulala and Eriko again.

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>>376000236
I fucked up. But the point remains, your waifu a slut.

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>>376000342
katsuya should be in a game with morgana and pet him a lot and not be allergic to him since he is a magic kitty!

>>375991578
>meanwhile the characters are mothballed and Atlus treats the series as if it didn't exist before P3

tbqh Persoan 3 and onward feels like a spinoff of Persona 1 & 2. They have about as much in common with each other as mainline SMT has with Persona.

>>376000154
Reminder that Mee-ho and Sheba were true and loyal friends and she got them killed because she was a bitch and was only able to fix it via universal reset.

>>375991294
Meguro has been phoning it in since the end of the PS2 era. Persona 5 ost was especially uninspired, after coming from SMT4 and 4A that had a huge track list and most of them were great.

>>376000562
It really does, especially with how they strip out a lot of the elements from it. Demons, choosing personas for all party members, guns, reduced elements/attack types, as well as completely changing the formula from dungeon crawlers to school sim/randomly generated dungeon crawler.

>>376000154
Friendly reminder that pic related is a fan translations while the official translation is that she only did compensated dates that didn't involve sex at all.

>>376000697
I have no idea why there aren't more complaints about the OST, you hear the same 3 fucking songs for 90% of the game. There aren't even different themes for winter or summer.
>beneath the mask
>instrumental beneath the mask
>life will change

>>376000697
>Meguro did a total of 2 tracks for SMT4, one of them being a slight remix of a Nocturne track
I guess they're phasing him out. He'll be with Kaneko soon enough.

>>376001165
Who would make a suitable replacement for Meguro if he were theoretically bowing out? Koduka seems like he will be taking over SMT, so I guess there is Konishi and Kitajoh. Anyone else who would fit the bill?

>>376000839
I honestly wish Persona would drop the school simulator crap and go back to dungeon crawling, schools should only be the tutorial dungeons in Persona. Also I want the cast to be all adults like in EP, not even mainline SMT does adult casts anymore.

>>375987234
>>375987458
The only butterflies that are confirmed Philemon are golden. I see no reason to believe he all of a sudden changed his color to blue when it makes much more sense for them to simply be the butterflies of his attendants.

>>376000893
I'm sure they didn't involve sex at all, just like how the romantic social links don't end in sex.

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>Igor gets fucking sealed in the shadow realm and Philly does nothing about it

>>376000562
They basically are. Aren't P3 on in a new universe from the P2 ending>

>>376000697
I thought P5 OST was great, I didnt mind the repeats.
But really is he not doing as much as he did before?

>>376001970
No they are all in the same universe except Innocent Sin.

>>376001431
You're deluding yourself if you don't think Persona hasn't always been about young people and young people problems. EP was an exception, not the rule.

>>376002015
Check this out, he barely touched SMT4.
http://vgmdb.net/album/43770

And if you go to the page for Final he apparently didn't make any tracks for it, but I don't know how accurate that is.

>>375983869
who's this fagboy?

>>376002306
literally me

>>376002306
literally you

>>376002212
Thanks for the link.

Says here though he did alot of work for P5 doe
http://vgmdb.net/album/63053

>>376002306
literally thou

>>376002335
>>376002416
2deep4me

>>376002479
Yeah, but what I think that anon was saying is that he's moving away from SMT and just doing Persona tunes now.

>>376002609
Hasn't he been pulled into that new fantasy RPG? Depending on the dev cycle for Persona, he might not even be on the next one.

>>376002712
Looks like it, and Soejima's going too. I guess he's doing just fine. But now that Soejima's busy, they'll bring Kaneko back for something, r-right?

>>376002914
NOPE DOI FOREVER LOL
Or worst yet, guest artists

>>376002914
>Persona without Soejima
that's as fucked up as SMT without Kaneko.

>>376002609
Oh okay, now I understand

>>376001728
>your butler gets kidnapped and put into jail.
>instead of doing the reasonable thing and pulling up a list of potential replacements, you are supposed to bust him out.
Phil doesn't really care. These problems tend to literally solve themselves, as P5 demonstrated, so now Philemon has even less of a fuck to give.

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>>376003017
Pic didnt attach. Double stupei.

>>376002609
Sucks that he's moved a bit away from SMT, but it at least comes with the upside that the Persona series now has a soundtrack worth talking about outside its main themes, final boss theme, and credits song.

>>376002075
It can be about young adults, even college students would be refreshing.

>>376001431
I don't really mind the school simulator stuff. I'm not saying that the dungeon crawling couldn't be better though, because it definitely could use some improvements.

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>>376003002
That would be horrible, wouldn't it?
I want to die.

>>376003261
>that Jiminez

I didn't know Smirk was confirmed for DSJ.

>>376003261
>gore gets fat and shiny
>vending machine gets 10 years younger

>>376003237
P4 to P5 was a marked improvement via dungeons even if they were simplistic. I would enjoy a more adult setting though, especially if they are going to take another 5-8 years or so to pump another one out. Starting to get to that point where the High-school setting is getting tired and unrelatable.

>>376003261
>Gore

Soiled

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>>376003261
What did they do to my manly Space Marine?!