Exile?

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>>375983757

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From the moment I heard your voice across the galaxy, I have longed for you—When I heard it, I loved you more than my own life. And I wanted you to be here with me, for as long as you will let me love you.

>>375983757
Even with the content restoration mod, he still got nothing to say.

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>>375983757

PURE PAZAAK!!

>>375983757
It's General, fucker.

>>375984316

That's because you never bothered to get any influence points for Bao-Dur.

>>375984316
What does the restoration mod even add? I was reading its page on Moddb, and I couldn't get any information out of it besides bug fix changelogs.

MAN, I'M FEELING REALLY APATHETIC TODAY

>>375984503
You mean he actually does shit if you bring him on missions? Dammit. Time for a replay. I heard there were key missions he has to go on?

>>375984503
Maybe I would have if Bioware hadn't made him such a boring, uninteresting and useless little bitch.

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>>375984583

-New Cutscenes
-New NPC's
-HK Factory
-New dialogue and influence opportunites
-New Training options for all organic party members that become Jedi Acolytes.

>>375984801

>Bioware
>being this stupid

Obsidian made KOTOR 2, not Bioware.

>>375985434
isn't HK factory in vanilla? I played through KOTOR2 like 5 months ago and I remember a section where I have to control HK-47 running around an HK factory avoiding combat because I fucked up his build.

>>375985434
It feels a bit boring running 3 jedis though.

And no jedi counselors except old can't please her lady.

>>375985945
don't quote but I think the edition on steam comes with restoration now

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>>375984650

>I heard there were key missions he has to go on?

Yep. On Telos' Surface. Also, you could use him on the Temple of Freedon Nadd on Dxun and G0-T0's Yacht (Bao-Dur is VERY useful on this mission). In general he's a well-rounded character provided that you level him to his suited skills, feats and attributes in the proper way and train him to become a Jedi Guardian.

>>375986169
Thanks anon!

>>375986169
After that he will have something new to say about each planet / mission?

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What is it about these 3 that make them so fascinating despite being just some Sith lords

>>375986316
>Sion has a meaningful relationship with Male Exile
>Has anime-tier crush on FemExile

How badly can they fuck this up?

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>>375984048
>My life for yours

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>>375985947

>And no jedi counselors except old can't please her lady.

The Disciple or the Exile can be Jedi Counselors. Your Party that can become Jedi Knights can still use Melee or Ranged Weapons. Force-Wielding Gun-Slingers is the best kind of king of playthroughs if you want a challenge.

>>375983757
General?

How is the Old Republic Era "Old"? I mean if it's set 4000 years before the movies, shouldn't the tech seen be more dated? It looks indistinguishable from the movies.

>>375986316
They're unique and they represent the best and worst aspect of the Sith.
Sion represents will to power but has no power.
Nihilus represents power, but lost his will.
Traya represents power and will to power, but the inability to hold onto that power and was betrayed in turn.

>>375985945
In the original before steam or whatever, it was mentioned but Exile and hk never went to it. It always ended with HK searching for it

>>375986756
Tech stagnation is kind of theme of Star Wars. Pretty sure it was a plot point too

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>>375986217

No problem.

>>375986262

>After that he will have something new to say about each planet / mission?

Planets: Hit or Miss. They removed the KOTOR 1-esque dialogue from KOTOR 2, where you could ask each Party Member what they thought about each Planet. Mandolore still keeps this aspect.

Missions: What most people don't realize in KOTOR 2 about the influence system; is that each PARTY Member only speaks according to a social hierarchical basis. For one example on Nar Shaddaa, the Exile can help Geriel (in the Refugee Camp) to treat his mild infection. If you bring Atton and Bao-Dur on this side-mission only Atton will speak in that situation; because he is the dominant/alpha of the PARTY group (besides the MC) based on your actions. Bao-Dur is one of a few passive/betas in the PARTY who only talks when there's another beta or there's a submissive/omega in the group or no-one at all.

>>375988198
>Atton
>Alpha
Dude is passive-agressive af

>>375986756
Technology wise, nothing is developed other than the design of ships.

>>375988441
Passive aggressive =/= beta
The guy will do whatever he wants because he's a little weasel.

>>375988672
I guess that explains why he left Exile after Peragus huh?

>>375988198
dude wow

>>375988441

>Dude is passive-agressive af

Atton doesn't take shit from anyone. On the Peragus Mining Facility if the Exile falsely accuses Atton in having some role in the deaths of the miners; he will forwardly threaten you behind a Energy-Shielded Prison stating that you'd know if he was coming to kill you despite knowing that the Exile is also a Jedi. Remember he was a former Assassin for the Sith.

>>375989041
Did Atton know you were a Jedi?
You were cut off from the Force at that moment.
Kreia only noticed because of the way the Exile walked.

Fuck, just started playing KotOR a few days ago, making a full run to TSL. Haven't seen a KotOR thread in years, yet now you start one.

I love you, /v/.

>>375989296
They get made from time to time.
You just have to keep an eye out for them.

>>375983757
He called you 'General', faggot.

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>>375989250

He figures it out when the Exile starts asking about the Facility. 4 minutes into the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgLX0QTX2D4

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>>375988856

>dude wow

What is it?

>>375983757
>Exile
>Not General

One job.

>>375989041
In speaking of that, why did Atton care so much about making sure that the Exile didn't find out about his past?

Seriously, why should he give a fuck? He was planning on leaving anyways.

>>375990576
Force bonds do strange things to a man

>>375990819
Exile was cut off from the force at the time through

Single lightsaber light-side is the best way to go tbqh famalams

>>375986316
They deconstruct the Sith, just like the masters deconstruct the Jedi. Sion shows how much the Sith live in the shadows of their masters, even as they claim to overcome them; Nihilus is the form of their victory, hollow and purposeless; Kreia... rejected them, just as she rejected the Jedi. And for the opposing triumverate, Vrook is their elitism, Kavar is their blindness, and Zez-Kai Ell is their useless regret.

so recently I went back to play through 1 and I got to say BoS was a stellar mod, the only thing that irked me was the one voiced npc and I got over that quick. Definately woth the hassle it was to set up with fully modded kotor 1

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>>375990576

Atton was scared of the Jedi and of what they would to him as the result of his actions as a Sith Assassin (consider what the Jedi Council did to Revan and to the Exile). Kreia exposed/blackmailed him because of it. However, he underestimated the Exile's/Jedi-Jesus level of forgiveness that he (as a Jedi) was willing to give to him.

>>375991063

>Zez-Kai Ell is their useless regret.

Not really. He was just a coward.

>>375991465
Possibly. As is sometimes pointed out, he fleetingly thought the Council failed to understand the Sith because they failed to understand themselves, but every time he has an opportunity to learn the truth he casts it aside. So that could be seen as a sort of addiction to narcissism, where he always thinks "next time I'll do better," or as you say, it could be cowardice, that he's afraid of the truth and uses regret as a way of not thinking about it.

>>375991397
Okay but exile and kreia was pretty weak at the time. Atton even says that he would 've been able to kill you if he wanted to.

This nigga could've fucked off after Peragus if he really wanted to do so

>>375990576
>why did Atton care so much about making sure that the Exile didn't find out about his past?
Because when you want to know about others, they also want to know about you.
And really does it matter what happened to the Exile?

>>375991063
Wow, nicely said.

>>375992402
She was just some random bitch who lost her connection to the force.That's all.

>No Atton reaction when Exile dances for the Hutt
Missed opportunity imo

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>>375992209

>Okay but exile and kreia was pretty weak at the time.

He was afraid of the Jedi Master Atris and the Handmaidens (who were training hand-to-hand specialists in the Echani Arts). He was outnumbered, the Exile's and Kreia's Force Powers were returning (which in turned strengthen them) and Bao-Dur is a seasoned war-veteran. Even if he wanted to escape, he was in the middle of the North Polar Irrigation Facility on Telos (with the planet's ecosphere/environment completely desolated). Also, the only other ship in that area was the Ebon Hawk since the HK-50's destroyed their previous shuttle from the Military Installation. Atton had no choice but to go along for the ride and was in a no-win situation.

How did you guys play your exile when other characters brought up the Mandalorian Wars to you? My Exile didn't give a fuck and thought what he did was right.

>>375993227
I went for the thousand-yard stare, a Jedi Jesus whose life was completely ruined by Malachor, and, at least at first (Peragus and Telos) is only doing what's needed to return to exile. So, needless to say, Nar Shadaa was the first planet I went to.
Though, I went that way because it feels like the way it's supposed to be.

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>>375993227
I was heavily conflicted about it, being apologetic about it sometimes and defiant other times

I eventually settled on "I did what had to be done" dialogue options though

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>>375993734
It's the only way to do it unless you're going for a jedi who learns nothing, or sith who learns nothing. I remember their being dialogue choices, when in the sith tomb(I think) where the exile is bombarded with having to relive old war trolley dilemmas, where it gives context to the various decisions you could make and that was pretty cool.

>>375993227
He had to protect innocent people from the slaughter of the Mandalorians and it cost him everything and feels like shit about it. But also select every option where the Exile rejects power.
>I love you Exile because of what you did at Malachor V
>t-thanks, it's not like I'm proud of what I've done or anything

Oh nice a Kotor thread.
I finally finished my video on Kreia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z0S0Z8lUTg

>>375993227
I'm reading the comics right now and Serroco.

Serroco, man.

I cannot understand why the Jedi didn't fully mobilize after that.

>>375997781
Because the Jedi are not good, nor are they evil.

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>malak, you moron
>malak, you genius

>>375983757
>/yg/ - Yes, General?

>>375997781
>Serroco, man.
How bad?
Also, what comic to read?

>>375998273
Is Malak the biggest moron in star wars?

>>375998754
Republic forces land on the planet in preparation for a fight with the Mandalorians. They use the Stereb cities as a base. One reason is their belief that the Mandalorians won't attack citizens, so the Republic use the Sterebs as human shields.

When the Mandalorians arrive, they notice this tactic and decide just to nuke the planet.

>>375998950
Jesus fuck.

>>375998754
It's called Knights of the Old Republic, Serroco happens fairly early on.

Tales of the Jedi is also good to read to give some context and for that pre-prequel EU charm, but it's not required.

>>375998947
>Revan
>keeps the Republic intact during his invasion so he'll have something to rule over
>Malak
>Taris is the most important Republic world in the Outer Rim, essential to Republic efforts there, lol lets glass it

>>375999257
Malak understood that Bastila was the only thing stopping him from absolute victory. He should've just bombed the planet the moment they couldn't find her body. Though I always imagine that the events on Taris take place in two days or so.

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>>375998479
Sublime.

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>she may have been good looking once, but it takes some hard living to make creases like that

>mfw she was pretty cute in Zardoz

>>375999016
That anon didn't mention that the entire Republic fleet was in orbit at the time.
There were literally no military targets on the planet when the Mandalorians bombarded it.
Just millions of innocent people.

>>375999660
Fucking hell.
That really puts the whole ''the Republic didn't take us seriously'' line from Canderous.

>>375999424
The bombardment was what allowed her escape.

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>>375998479

>>375999424
Nah, he was just a shit tier commander. Bastilla didnt seem to mean much when Revan was running things.

>>375984801
Bao-Dur is my nigga, man.
>chill as fuck
>just wants to fix shit and try to move on from the traumas of war
>builds the best upgrades at the work bench because of his insanely high skills in just about everything
>becomes a Jedi gaurdian just as good as handmaiden with better wisdom to help heal and buff
Since I discovered how to get influence with him, I don't think I'll be able to play the game again without him being a staple on my team

>>376000136
That's only because she didn't unlock her Battle Meditation. Seriously, she is able to win ANY fucking battle with it. It's also what lead to Revan's defeat by Malak.

>>376000179
Bao-Dur is the most fucked up nigga in your whole party, and that's saying a lot.

>>375985947
Consulars are op as fuck. If you really want to break the game that way, make yourself one. Otherwise just use the more balanced classes

>>376000317
Dunno, Hanharr is really fucked up, but in a different way.

>>376000502
But Hanharr is a literal and figurative monster. He doesn't realize what he does is wrong.

Bao-Dur does realize what he does is wrong and does it anyway.

>>376000664
>He doesn't realize what he does is wrong.
I think he does but he's unable to become a non-primative. He killed his tribe because of life debts yet is unable to make his own codes.

Bao-Dur is just so angry he can't fix the galaxy and feels like shit that he broke it even more.

>>376000317
How's he so fucked up? He had a lot of hate for mandalorians, but otherwise he seemed to generally want to do good where possible

>>375984048
Visas turned me into a dom.

Bumpan. This Kotor 2 thread is too young to die.

Anyone else discover the pleasures of discarding stupid laser sticks and just shooting mother fuckers in the head? Double mandalorian rippers with mandalorian chambers and rylith cells is God like

>>376001482
Every time I replay the game I tell myself I'm going to do a ranged or just generally non-lightsaber run but god dammit I can never resist the hum.

>>376001256
>being a sub in the first place
lol

>>376001556
This. Lightsabers are just too cool. Single blade every time for me.

i only played swtor back in the day but got far enough that i saw revan in a mini dungeon and the jedi exile meetra surik as a force ghost. and how the other sith lord killed her to pave the way for the jedi knight in swtor to kill the emperor

is any of that shit in this game? where did the name meetra surik even come from

>>376002123
Nope.

It's all Bioware's salt and fanfiction.

>>376002283
I sometimes like to imagine that Bioware purposefully fucked their game just to get back at Obsidian for calling their writing shit.

Who's everyones' favorite character and why is it HK-47?

>>376002380
That is undoubtedly at least part of it.

TOR and the supplementary material could have easily not even mentioned the Exile, Kreia or anything from TSL, but they specifically killed the Exile like a bitch and said Kreia was lol insane the whole time.

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>>376000915
Bao-Dur did want to do good, and help the galaxy, but his hatred of the Mandalorians meant he enjoyed not just fighting but killing them, which led to him developing and deploying a superweapon that inflicted horrific damage on both the Mandalorians (who deserved it) and the Republic and Jedi forces, and contributed in part to the Jedi Civil War.
He essentially doesn't deal with this at all, just accepting that it had to be done and that he's responsible, and then spends his time trying to build protective things like shield generators, but even that leads him into conflict.

>>376001482
>>376001556
>>376001847
I've played through a few times as a blaster Jedi, but lightsabers are just too cool - the visuals, especially with all the different choices for colour crystals, the sound, and the different lightsaber forms. Plus, I prefer to make my Exiles Guardians now.
You're right about dual Mandalorian Rippers being incredibly good, though I prefer to just give them to Mira.

Single saber a best.

>>376002473
Kreia, obviously.
I like that HK47 actually felt like an assassin droid.

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>>375984048
>>376001256
>>376002728
>''It is good that you have never wondered what lay beneath her robes, if her alabaster skin was as white and unblemished as her face. Or if perhaps she bore the scars of slavery... and if that would stir you more. Perhaps her deferent tone would change once you held her by the throat...''

>>376002728
What made Kreia your favorite, anon?

>>375999731
The bombing of Serroco is mentioned in KOTOR 2 by Atton when you get influence with him. He says it was the atrocity that turned many in the Republic military against the Jedi Council and towards the Revanchists. By Malachor they had a personal following of half the fleet. Men like Atton, angered at Jedi inactivity, formed the backbone of Revan's invasion force in the Jedi Civil War.

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>>375995883
Hey, thanks for posting this! I've been looking forward to it since you first mentioned you were putting one together.

>>376003770
Her Nietzschean half truth attitude.
She also sounds like my mother.

>>376002123
Damn it go and play them. TOR is a pale shadow that trampled all over their legacies.

>>376003961
No problem. I'd love to hear your opinions on it after you've finished watching it.

>>376004148
Certainly, I'd love to! I'll see you around these threads, I guess.

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>>375986756
Bioware is and always was a bunch of hacks. They could make it in godly Tales of the Jedi space-medieval aesthetics but decided to just make it look like movies to not scary out normies with weirdness. And so everything set after kotor 1 have to be just as uninspired.

>>375999660
Doesn't Canderous in 1 tell you in one of his war stories that Mandos don't really believe in civilians? They really are the straw survivalists who believe that if you're too weak to defend yourself you deserve to die. Or was it 2?

>>376005220
iirc it was in 1

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HK-47 doesn't like meatbags to say the least. Was there ever a story about droid/robot uprising in Star Wars?

>>376006925
IIrc HK-47 once created a droid army on Mustafa a few thousand years after the events of KOTOR.

Darth Nihilus is cool as fuck and his fight is so disappointing

>>376006925
Because droids go insane and can't care for anything after an extended period of time.

>>376007427
You were supposed to fight him on Onderon. It's the reason the ritual happened. He was supposed to eat the planet, and you ended up finding him and half defeating him before escaping. There's audio files referencing that. Isn't it weird that simply ending the civil war stopped whatever was supposed to happen?

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Why did Nihilus made two more holes in Visas?

>No Atris to sexually bully
Fuck this gay earth

>>376003909
I really have to go back and replay KotOR 1 and 2 again someday. The comics are some of my favorite Star Wars material and they do a good job weaving a unique story in that universe in between the setting of those two games and, to a lesser extent, the original comics. I've reread them once or twice over the years, but never along with replaying the games to get a sense of just how they worked thing together.

"Revanchism" being a thing was a lucky break, considering Revan was probably just derived from Revenant originally.

It saddens me to know whenever KotOR 3 is released you won't be able to seduce your allies to the dark side.
Or if you do it will be a one off conversation where they do a complete 180 in just that conversation.

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>>376007897
>KOTOR 3

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>>376003748

>I'm not about to go charging up her loading ramp.

>>376007897
One of the Sith Sorceror companion recruitment subplots in SWTOR literally involves you seducing them to your side. I can't recall if you can make them Dark Side, I believe you can. You can just also convince them to join the Sith as a light sided reformer. Which is, you know, kind of dumb but there you go.

>>376007587
I could never figure out if she was old or if she just had silver hair.

>>376008120
Sith warrior.

The sith sorc/assassin gets cucked into a grey jedi who joins you for laughs after you fail to turn them on 3 seperate occasions (EVEN THOUGH YOU"RE PLAYING THE SIDEOUS ARCHETYPE).

Kotor 2 crashes literally every time I travel to a planet or view a cutscene, and it doesn't properly crash to desktop but hangs around on a black screen that I have to shut my computer down to get out off. If I boot up there's usually a working auto-save from right after the cutscene but it makes it a complete annoyance to play.
Anyone know if there's any proper fix?

>>376008259
It's been ages, but I recall complaints that the Sith Warrior story involved too much politics and the Sorcerer story involved too much beating people up. And thus the stories should've been switched.

I only ever played the Inquisitor, which was a great story, and then the very beginning of the Consular, which was eh.

>>376008372
>Inquisitor
Whoops, Imperial Agent.

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>>375983757

What do we have here? Thieves in the hangar! So you thought you'd steal my ship and leave me high and dry while the Sith turn the planet into dust?

>>375983757
Kylo Ren really is just Darth Revan.

>>376008274
Kotor 2 works better than Kotor 1 right now. If you are using steam version everything should be okay.
Though i remember i had some problem with cutscenes in Kotor 1, so maybye try to find fix for Kotor 1 and hopefully it will work for Kotor 2 too.

>>375983757
>not general

doing it wrong idiot.

>>376008924
I never had problems with kotor 1, but 2 is acting up non-stop. Guess I could try deleting all the cutscene files and see if that helps.

>>376008631
Revan is just Anakin/Vader with worse design until Kotor 2

>>375984048
stuff like this turns me on more than porn.

>>376009126
Revan was a bit better. There was left some interpretation as to why he went pure sith.
You could believe it's for psuedo-anakin reasons, or you could just leave it unexplained, like Bioware seemed to do until MUH SITH EMPIRE.

He shares anakin's general attitude disdaining inactivity and passivity, but lacks anakin's motivation and unlike anakin he found his own path rather than being manipulated.

>>375993227
she wanted to protect people from the mandalorians and would do it all over again if given the choice.
she may regret a few things she did like leading man to thier Death but she still would do it.

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>>376007587
>tfw no Atris to be sexually bullied by
Life truly is suffering, anon.

>>376008184
She's just got naturally silver/white hair (which is cute as fuck).
She's 'old' but only Christmas Cake old

>>375998947
typical sith mentality.

>>376009586
Christmas cake is only 25-35
Atris is like 45-60, though obviously age has been kind to her

>>376009223
Kelly Hu's voice is literally fetish material.

>>376008523
>tfw there was an NPC in Onderon who had his face
KotOR2 is amazing, but the amount of re-used assets is disgusting

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what did she mean by this?

Revan understood snacks

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is hk 47 /ourguy/?

>>376003961
Holy shit, you are MY nigga. I've been looking for the full res of this for ages now.

I can finally buy a canvas painting of it, much like that battlestation anon did. Except I won't have 37 dragon dildos.

>>376010187
Is goto crawling up his ass or something there?

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what the fuck was his problem?

>>376010341
Bad skin.

>>376010341
no money for plastic surgery

>>376007427
I'm not sure how I would have felt about him if the early idea of "his mask is literally revans skull" went though. Seems needlessly grim.

>>376010341
A horrible life uplifted into a state of perpetual agony and anger.

>>376010467
>needlessly grim
More like needlessly edgy. It'd have been a classic example of "we establish our new villain as bigger and badder than the previous villain by doing something stupid that 'proves' it without any actual on screen interaction, much less a good one."

>>376010341
If I was immortal and looked like that I'd have a problem with everyone too.

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obligatory

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>>376009324
All I remember from kotor 1 is that
>Revan is a young rebellious jedi who doesn't listen to Jedi council and acts on his own.
>Great general
>At the end of war falls to the Dark Side
>Then starts killing Jedi
>Then come back to Light Side and helps to get rid of evil he started.
It's pretty much this same story with changed motivations.

He got interesting in Kotor 2 when there is said that he may not fell to the Dark Side and became edgelord only for the sake of it, but saw something far worse that Mandalorians in Unknown Reasons and decided that weak and democratic Republic will not be able to survive. So the only way to save it is to convert it into militaristic dictatorship.

In Kotor 1 he became evil because he got corrupted by using Star Forge iirc.

>>375984320
Go sit on a rocket

>>376010341
he's got a kreia complex

>>376009586
God, the implied love between Atris and a Male Exile is fucking great.

>Handmaiden asks if the Exile cared for the Exile, have the option of saying yes
>Atris feeling betrayed that the Exile chose Revan and the war over her.
>The battle near the end where you apologize for how your actions during the war hurt her
>She says that Kreia would give her life for hers, just like she would have.
>Atris outright saying that she loves the Exile to a Sith Holocron

10/10

>>376010805
>Handmaiden asks if the Exile cared for the Exile, have the option of saying yes
>She says that Kreia would give her life for hers, just like she would have
Your pronouns are all over the fucking place here, anon. Only the second example really becomes confusing for it, though.

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>>376008523
When I first played the game, I was stuck on this bit for a while until I realized you're meant to attack Calo. I heard that unskippable line so many times that it's drilled into my head forever

>>376009969

The fucking TSF guy has his exact same voice actor not trying to sound any different at all, and he's also old and gray haired.

>>376010341
In constant agony
he chafes easily

Aww yiss more whacky star wars rpg adventures!
>The force is dead
>Post traumatic stress, war guilt
>etc
I wasn't prepared for this as a young teen.

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>>376010637
>One day the exile will help me become a pretzel
Fucking lost it

>>376010695
He was only rebellious on the fact of, yo we should be defending these cunts instead of sitting on our hands.

Star Forge corrupts but it's still left ambiguous as to why he went full edgelord.
As for going light-side and undoing it all, that's part of player decision, and another one of kotor 2's positive points is that it doesn't state that any one outcome of the first game is canon.

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>>376010207
>Holy shit, you are MY nigga.
You're welcome anon, I'm glad to help! I've got a couple more pieces of art I'll post, but they're not quite as big.
>canvas painting
...sounds pretty interesting, actually. Where do you get those from?

>>375984048
My heart wants to leave my body

>>375986316
Kreia's manipulation and wits make sheev look like a cartoon character, Sion is your run of the mill sith lord smoldering with generic rage, but his use of powers to keep himself together is pretty cool. Nihilus is essentially Galactus and the miraluka is silver surfer. How can you not cream yourself over that?

>>376010637
>Reven understood snacks

Kill me now this is why 4chan is the greatest place on earth.

>>376012216
UNLIMITED

>>376012216
>make sheev look like a cartoon character

But anon, he's supposed to be a "I'M EVIL FOR EVIL'S SAKE" cartoon character.

>>375986316
Darth Krayt tried to ask Nihilus's ghost for some Sith tips and he just gave him whale noises

>>376012465
>But anon, he's supposed to be a "I'M EVIL FOR EVIL'S SAKE" cartoon character.
Not really, he himself really wanted what was best for the republic/empire. There's EU shit where he started the empire to protect the republic from a bigger incoming threat.

>>375986756
No one has discovered/invented bacta so they use kolto
But I remember the comics changing that, saying bacta already existed but some corporate conspiracy made bacta scarce to make it more expensive so kolto is the main healing shit

>>376012216
>Sion is your run of the mill sith lord smoldering with generic rage
Not really, he has no ambition and doesn't actually do or achieve anything at all.

>>376012498
>>376012802
Come on boys EU has some good stuff, the one sith wasn't one of them.

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>>375986316
>>376012498
>Darth Krayt tried to ask Nihilus' ghost for some Sith tips and he just gave him whale noises
Honestly, how incensed would you be? You're a literal world-devouring abomination, one of the most powerful Sith Lords not just of your age but ever, in a time when both the Sith and Jedi were at their height, and thousands of years later some random fuck consults you for tips on being a better Sith.
>[Unintelligible whispering intensifies]
That's such a great moment, I don't care much about any of the Legacy stuff but it's almost worth reading just for that.

>>376012873
I only read it for the zeltron and twilek and milf ass

>>376012772
>Not really, he has no ambition and doesn't actually do or achieve anything at all.
So you agree. That's a weird way of phrasing it, though.

>>376012802
>>376012907
>in a time when both the Sith and Jedi were at their height
Both Jedi and Sith are in decline during KotOR 2, that's one of the points of the game. According to Kreia, all the contemporary Force users are like children playing with toys compared to the dead masters on Korriban.

According to Lucas, Luke was the strongest Force user of all time.

>>376012907
>tips on being a better Sith
pretty sure he just wanted to know how to continue existing while that Vong stuff was devouring his body

>>376012985
what about clone Luuke?

>>376013056
he was asking for deeper sith knowledge

>>376013074
Which of them used the force to move around black holes?

>>376013164
Clone Luuuke time traveled to the past

>>376013074
Probably lost some power during cloning.

The REAL question is, did Lucas mean Regular Luke, or Bigger Luke?

>>376012772
>Not really, he has no ambition and doesn't actually do or achieve anything at all.
That's all the Sith are, though.
Sion does want to destroy the Jedi, but I can't remember if they ever explain why. I believe it's implied it's either a leftover from what he absorbed from Kreia's teachings or a rebellion against them; and that he's basically doing it because it's what he thinks a Sith should do with no real plan for what happens afterwards.

It's kind of overshadowed by his massive hateboner for Kreia and the Exile.

>>376012873
Like I said, I haven't even read it,
an anon just told me about it in one of these threads one day
What are your favourite parts of the EU, anon? I enjoyed Zahn's novels - of course- and also hugely enjoyed the X-Wing series, but admittedly I'm a incredible space combat fetishist. Comes from TIE Fighter being by first Star Wars game.

>>376012969
I just mean he's like bits of leftovers the swept up from the vader mold.

He takes control of the sith after the other two fuck off and just sort of hangs out in shitholes he doesn't even have a plot to destroy the republic.
After treya come back he just keels over like a bitch.

>>376013362
He wanted mommy's love.

My favorite era was the one where prehistoric Je'daii fought against Rakata and every Jedi were grey jedi who balanced light and dark

>here's an ancient black box
>"don't open it"
>*opens it*

>>376013902
what happened in that box again? the rakata gives you riddles?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Most_comfortable_chair_ever_designed

>>376012587
Anon Lucas himself said the films aren't any deeper than people being evil for the sake of being evil. All that EU shit, legends or not, doesn't matter.

>>376014013
Lucas is no longer loremaster. It depends on what Diis-ne X-ecutive has to say.

>>375995883
Nice, man. Its long, so I dont predict anyone but people who like these threads to watch it, but you did a good job.

>>375993227
I hated the bureaucracy of the Jedi during the war and they way their restraint led to the deaths of good men. This is why he went out on a personal mission to kill every Jedi in order to rid the galaxy of their corrupt philosophy. This isn't to say that I agreed with the Sith either; but I saw them as the lesser evil.

Why are these threads so Patrician?

>>375989296
>>375989340
There was a period a couple of months ago where we had like 2 a day. Good times.

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What was the best scene and why was it the rebuilt jedi enclave on dantoonine?

>You were deafened
>At last you could hear
>You were broken
>You were whole
>You were blinded
>And at last...you saw

>>375983862
Sith jesus was the best

>>376010004

If you trip then you've gotta style it out without anyone noticing.

>>376012985
>Both Jedi and Sith are in decline during KotOR 2, that's one of the points of the game. According to Kreia, all the contemporary Force users are like children playing with toys compared to the dead masters on Korriban.
Good point, but I believe Kreia was talking about the degeneration of the Sith as a whole - their ideology and philosophies, as well as their techniques like bladesmanship and Force use. That's kind of my point, though - that even if Nihilus existed when the Jedi and Sith were in decline (and 'as children' to those who came before them), he was far closer than the debased children of the final days of the Republic. And in his power he accomplished something nobody ever had before, and which only one other person could possibly achieve again.

Damn, Korriban might be my favourite planet from II. It was so comfy just travelling around, listening to Kreia tell you the history of this empty world, and discussing philosophy with her. It was sad hearing how far things had fallen, how much art was lost never to be rediscovered. It was interesting hearing her views on Ajunta Pall, as well.

To be fair, Lucas is kind of crazy. And the EU for the most part went way overboard with Luke's powerlevel

>>376013056
>>376013128
Either way, I think my point stands. When you're a planet eating abomination no longer capable of human speech, you probably don't want to be bothered by some witless fuck who wants you to solve whatever his problem is.

>>376010341
he had really bad dry skin and it made him super mad

>>376014681
I don't think there's a single person who would object to this.

The version where you kill all the masters is better though.

>You have failed me; completely and utterly.

>>376003748
I don't have any variation of that dude wiping sweat from his face saved but, that.

>>376014912
I guess the real question then is whether the version with or without the jedi masters is better

I tried to hook up with a girl once and she invited me over to her house and we were suppose to Netflix and chill, only there was no netflix back then, so she played the Episode 3 DVD.
Nigga I fucking blasted her with Star Wars trivia. Like the names of the Jedi that got killed in Order 66, the names of the Clone Commanders that killed them, The names of some of the weapons, ships and vehicles shown, and even recited some of the dialogue I've memorized.
She was smiling throughout the movie while I was talking. The "disgusted but being polite" smile. I left after the movie. No sex

>>375995883
I absolutely loved it, man. Just finished watching the whole thing and it really opened my eyes to Kreia's character; something I tried to understand but never really got until now.

>>376014598
Interesting lore, lots of really memorable scenes, characters and writing, there's still a lot of things to discuss even this long after the game's release, a patrician fanbase, and an abundance of top-tier waifus; literally the recipe for a perfect game.
It's really nice, I can only think of two other games where the threads are as consistently good, and they're far more niche fanbases.

>>376014619
>Good times.
That they were.
>Constant Visasposting
>constant >tfw no Atris gf
>constant argument as to whether Hanharr of G0-T0 is a worse character
I loved it.

>>376014598
they usually turn into star wars movies, comics and cartoons thread

>>376010637
I want a slice of life where kreia is a wise single mother who owns a bar and takes care of her rebellious and athletic teenage daughter while also pining after the handsome loner exile who comes into the bar to drink alone and talk to kreia.

>>376014013
>All that EU shit, legends or not, doesn't matter.
We're discussing an EU game, keep it together. Lucas can go eat a dick.

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>some faggot tells me rogue one is suppose to be grittier than the usual star wars

>>375986756
Old Republic tech was better than New Republic
like advanced ancient tech tier
like in that scene in R1 where a Hammerhead made two Destroyers slice each other

>>376015392
Yeah, compare the blank slate characters in Rogue one to this game. It's not even in the same ballpark.

>>376014912
>Oh yes, your hate has destroyed them. You should be proud of the blood you have spilled, the lives you have ended.

>>376015497
I last saw that a month or so ago when the bluray rip turned up. I cannot remember a single characters name.

>>376013195
Fuck me, some of the old EU was just awful.

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>>376015392

>>376015392
Only thing Rogue One did right was prove "darker" stories are commercially viable.

Halfway through that lovie I just gave up on the charavchters and just resigned myself to enjoy the special effects.

Now at least we've got Luke dropping some mad Kreia-pills

>>376015692
the one where IG-88 merged with the Death Star to annoy Sheev with the doors

>>376015392
>doesnt check backblast first
do you even soldier, m8?

>>375989759
One of the best things kotor 2 did was expand on revan. It made his heel turn make a ton of sense.

>>376015948
it's future rocket rocket
it barely puffed smoked behind when he shot it

>>376015740
or the time sheev came back as a clone and luke becomes his bad guy apprentice

>Exile is canonically female
Im happy the EU was wiped out

>>376016029
but anon star wars is about gritty realism now

>>376010695
It was expanded on in kotor 2 but that idea was there in the first game. Also i you payed any attention you would see that the mandos were going to fuck shit up if revan hadn't done something.

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>>376014726
>Is it worth making everyone Jedis?
Yes. The lore and character development you get from doing so has to be seen at least once, and often involves some of the most interesting conversations you can have with each character. For that reason it's worth it to corrupt every character into a Sith at least once, too - even Mira. It isn't too difficult to get enough Influence with everyone in one playthrough, though some characters (Bao-Dur and Mira, mainly, but if you have some Influence with Mira already you can gain enough to max her out as long as you can pass an Awareness 14 check) are more difficult to gain Influence with than others (Atton, Visas and Disciple, who gain it everywhere). Just be aware that if you're interested in both characters, you need to have higher Influence with Handmaiden than Visas whenever you speak to Handmaiden, or she'll refuse to talk to you (and once she has she never will again); it doesn't matter how much you have with each but Handmaiden's /must/ be higher. The best advice I can give you is not to run through all of Visas' dialogue as soon as you recruit her, go out and get a couple of Influence gains with the Handmaiden first.

>>376016098
realism in a sci-fi setting, genius.

>>375995883
I was watching this and saw you made a prediction on berserk. Berserk is basically my favorite thing ever, even before kotor2, so I stopped the video to watch that one. Its a good video, and I agree with a lot of your points, but I think the rage dog symbolizes that guts cant just settle down any more. Maybe casca does forgive him, but guts is restless and eventually he does something really dramatic unintentionally and he has to move on to hunt griffith.

>>376016604
But anon, how can I relate to anything if it's not realistic?

>>376016063
If Disney will make kotor 1&2 reboot she will be woman as well. Imagine the butthurt when SJW would hear that some character was turned into male when it was earlier female. Besides Disney is all about female protagonists now. https://www.polygon.com/2017/4/13/15284290/star-wars-animated-series-youtube

>>376005067
That was the only decision that made sense if they wanted to make a game based on the franchise. A bunch of neon colored aliens in loincloths would have made no sense, considering they set the game in the old republic era.
>>375986756
Technology in star wars is stagnant, so it reached a certain point and never really evolved from there.

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>>376016702
God i hope this doesnt happen

>>376010004
So we can pick ourselves up.

>>376008425
>imperial agent.
>great story.
>all you do is follow around jadus and his throbbing darkness.

>>375990931
Not by the end of peragus and telos.

>>376017218
thats just part one. also
>not wanting jadus' throbbing darkness

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It is time for the Jedi to end

>>376010695
Shut up.
Revan didn't just "fall to the dark side." The jedi council was indecisive about joining the republic to fight in the mandalorian war, but Revan and other jedi were eager to join and tip the scale on the republic's side and stop the butchering the mandalorians had been doing. Revan didn't wait for the council, riled up a ton of jedi and joined the war. While searching for means to defeat the mandalorians, he found the star forge (basically a factory that shits out limitless spaceships) which was corrupted. He curbstomped the mandalorians like the smelly niggers they are and found out about a much bigger threat, the true sith, hiding on the edge of the galaxy. He then decided that if the republic were to survive, he'd need to strengthen it by means of war, so he turned the star forge against the republic to force it to prepare for all out war and the incoming sith threat. That was the jedi civil war.

So he "fell" in terms of using dark side artifacts and powers, but was always looking out for his homies, not just himself. Malak has more in common with annie than Revan, really.

>>376016702
>If Disney will make kotor 1&2 reboot she will be woman as well. Imagine the butthurt when SJW
Oh shut the fuck up, you retarded faggot. You just wanted to push your agenda and start an argument.
>>376017003
Stop enabling the retard.

>>376015693
Are they ok?

>>376018018
???

>>376018018
>125x93

>>376010695
>>Revan is a young rebellious jedi who doesn't listen to Jedi council and acts on his own.
>>Great general
>>At the end of war falls to the Dark Side
>>Then starts killing Jedi
Are you actually retarded?

>>376017892
Except they will make Revan a chick, remember Pablo said he would make FemRevan canon and the LSG is 4 women and 3 men.

>>376015392
rogue one was originally going to be a grittier star wars, but then the executives decided to change the director, hence why the trailers are different than the movie.

The original director definitely wanted a gritty war movie

>>375986693
>blood
>lightsaber

>>376018367
Episode 4, the cantina scene.

>>376017697
He electrocuted me for being sassy.
Fuck jadus.

>>376018318
Except Revan is a guy in canon, they will make whoever the main character is customizable and you need to shut the fuck up more often.

>>376010341
The Exile is everything that he wasn't, and then some. He lost himself in the destruction, even his own death. Death is all he knows, but it's not his own. His failing is perpetuated by his master refusing to teach him, opting for the exile instead.

Even when he confronts the Exile, he comes to understand victory only yields more vacant death. He'll never complete his teachings and he'll never die. He'll never save Sev, play Kotor II for the first time, have a gf, etc. All that waits for him in life is the death he's delayed and it's fair enough to be sassy about that.

>>376017954
They had parachutes.

>>375993227
Inaction is action. I think most people agree the thing KotORII did best was making the SW universe seem less black and white. Sometimes there can't be a happy outcome, you just have to do what feels right at the time.

>>375993734
>>375994181
pussyoles.

Jaded WW2-style vet is the ONLY way to play the Exile.

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Looks like anon's gone, but I'm posting this anyway for future reference (if I type it out now, I can just save it in case I ever have to post it again)

>>376014726
>>376016545
As far as character builds, most characters lose little to nothing, and everyone benefits from being a Jedi - depending on how you're building them Atton can sometimes make use of more Sneak Attack, and you can give Mira some extra Scout levels for free Precise Shot/Targeting feats, but they both do well with becoming Jedi around level 10-14 or so. The Exile needs to be level 18 to finish sparring with the Handmaiden and unlock the option to train her as a Jedi, so you can keep levelling her until then if you want to - she's an incredible close-quarters combatant just as a Soldier, and as a Guardian she only needs enough Force powers to be able to fully buff herself and start slaughtering enemies. I'd give her Heal anyway, though (every one of your casters should have it, it's just too good) and a crowd control and/or Death Field can be useful.

Disciple can be a very powerful Soldier/Consular; it's your choice how many levels of each class to give him but I find he makes a well-balanced fighter/caster.
Bao-Dur is the only character that you can make an argument that he loses something when trained as a Jedi; or rather, that he gains the least of all the trainable characters. As a Tech Specialist he already gets access to the advanced Unarmed feats and making him a Jedi means he loses some of his insane amount of skill points. He's also unable to wear Jedi Robes (because of his arm), and can't wear armour and use most Force powers, so he can by very squishy for a Guardian. That said, he gets so many skill points that you won't really miss losing some because your party is more than capable of handling all the crafting. With a skill-capable Exile, you won't even notice. I always make him a Jedi, but I never use him in my active party so I don't have to care about making him combat-viable.

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>>376005067
Funny enough i believe Lucas liked the series enough to include it on Palp's mural

>last set of the pazaak game, 750 credits are on the line
>5
>5
>opponent already stands at 19
>5
>the only card i had left was a +5
PURE

>>376018554
The Kotor 3 we didn't need but deserved, shut up Tsig.
Anyway, I'm going through NWN2 just for MotB, is the story on par with Kotor 2 and PT,at least thematically? I'm enjoying Avellone's style.

>>376019198
MotB was great, but iirc it was kinda short.

>>376017892
Nonsense. I just told him that if Exile will be in new canon she will be female as well which is exactly what would happen for reasons mentioned.
>>376018130
That's exactly what happens and we know in kotor 1. Everything else is added in kotor 2.
>>376017780
>and found out about a much bigger threat, the true sith, hiding on the edge of the galaxy. He then decided that if the republic were to survive, he'd need to strengthen it by means of war, so he turned the star forge against the republic to force it to prepare for all out war and the incoming sith threat. That was the jedi civil war.

So he "fell" in terms of using dark side artifacts and powers, but was always looking out for his homies, not just himself. Malak has more in common with annie than Revan, really.

This is exactly what I meant but all of this was added in Kotor 2.

Did the jedi know about bastilla's battle meditation shit when they sent her to board revans flagship?

>>376017780
Revan and Malak were corrupted by the emperor when they found him, this is objective truth.

>>376019953
We don't talk about that novel and game

>>376019953
Fuck me what they did to the story is completely retarded. Hidden sith empire led by a sith emperor who is also ruling ANOTHER hidden empire.

>>376020049
I like TOR, sue me

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>>375998479
Thats real good

>>376020140
He pulled a double Sheev

>>376019903
she was suppose to be vima sunrider who's main shtick was battle meditation like her mother

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>>376018664
Damn, Sion's life really was suffering...
>He'll never save Sev, play Kotor II for the first time
>All that waits for him in life is the death he's delayed
Too far, anon, too far! ;_;

>>376019198
>is the story on par with Kotor 2 and PT,at least thematically? I'm enjoying Avellone's style.
Mask of the Betrayer is fantastic, but as an expansion it's shorter than KotOR II - it's not /too/ short, but just the right size, I think. Thematically I think it's easily up there with Planescape: Torment, and while I wouldn't say it's quite as good as KotOR II, MotB is still great - it's just that KotOR II is my absolute favourite game.

Mask of the Betrayer is definitely worth playing through once or twice. I should mention that George Ziets was the creative lead for MotB and wrote most of the narrative, though Chris Avellone wrote one of the companions and you can see his influence on the story as a whole - Ziets explores very similar themes. I hope you enjoy it, anon!

>>376017893
needs more taint and madadad

>>376020414
>>376018664
Is he interested in giving a grey, cracked D to a female Exile?

>>376020737
I think he wants to kill and fuck her, i don't want to think about in which order either.

I completed KOTOR 2 like 10 years ago and don't remember enjoying it. I wasn't using any mods and I think I played an evil char. Is it worth giving it another go?

>>376020737
That was a hell of a surprise when I first did a female playthrough. Instead of sexual tension with Atris it was Darth Zombie with a crush on you.

>>376018554
>>376018689
>>376018862
what are these from?

Did the GOG version of KotOR2 every get the Aspyr update?

>>376021474
Kotor 3 fangame. It's hilarious.

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>>376019903
>Did the jedi know about bastilla's battle meditation shit when they sent her to board revans flagship?
They did; her Battle Meditation was the only reason that the Jedi could get Revan in a position to board him in the first place (though I think it's implied somewhere Revan may have intentionally lured them into doing so); once they had managed to board Revan's flagship he was considered so dangerous they just threw the entire Jedi strike team at him, because they knew anything less and he'd probably win.

>>376020737
>Is he interested in giving a grey, cracked D to a female Exile?
More than anything, his hateboner for the Exile is pretty much his only remaining motivation.

It's there in the base game, but it's even more obvious in the restored content where he might torture Atton to death - and leave him for the Exile to find - out of jealousy.

>>376021401
How old were you and are you Star Wars fan? As kid I would die out of boredom, because I wouldn't understand shit. I wouldn't understand shit If I weren't star wars nerd either.

>>376021773
Probably around 14 and I'd only seen the prequels at the time so yeah.

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lol why u playin as a girl faggot?

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>>376021929
Because female Exiles are cute (those combat suits, hnnng) and because as much as people seem to dislike him, Disciple is an interesting character with interesting - and unique - lore to discuss. He's far from the worst companion in the game (G0-T0), the problem is that he's inferior to the Handmaiden in every way, male Exiles get far better interaction with Visas, Handmaiden and Atris (better characters than Atton and Disciple), and all the interesting parts of Disciple's discussions can be run through in a single conversation.

Pity Kreia mindfucked him so hard.

>>376017763
Do you guys think that luke is really going to go kreia mode? I think they basically have to introduce more grey morality into the franchise, there is just too little you can do when your story is sith=evil and jedi=good.

>>376020294
UNLIMITED EMPIRE

>>376021463
People attracted to female Exile
>Atton
>Fighting Holocron
>A Hutt
>Darth Arid Scalp

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>>376021929
I'm just playing as shexile and he isn't bad. Average knowledgefag and I like his voice

>tfw all 3 hot ones want that exile D

>>376022468
not at all

theyre trying to cash in on the franchise not break new ground

>>376022675
why is she bathing in cream of wheat

>>376015462
that hammerhead scene had nothing to do with technology, unless you're talking about ion torpedoes. other than that its just physics dude. they applied force to an object in space and pushed it into another object. would you think throwing a rock at someone's head would be some huge technological feat?

>>376022438
>Someone saved my image with nothing personel hk I made and posted few months ago.
So this is how it feels like.

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>>375986316
Each one demonstrates how following the dark side to its ultimate end doesn’t give you what you really wanted.

>Sion is effectively immortal, but at the cost of being in agonizing pain at all times, and having to telekinetically hold his body parts together. His immortality isn’t a means to anything greater; it’s just self-prolonging. Existence for the sake of existence.

>Nihilus obtained the astonishing power to drain entire planets of their life, but is now a black hole of hunger for life. He finds no joy or pleasure in consuming worlds. He eats them because he is compelled to.

Sion and Nihilus are basically in their own hell that they made for themselves.

Kreia’s great for tons of reasons, but especially because she rejected the Dark Side, and ultimately the force as a whole. She saw that it made its users dependent upon it, rather than liberated them. The Force is the ultimate drug. She’s trying to sober up the universe, and seeks out the Exile because they might be the answer.

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>>376022583
You forgot Best Girl, Atris.
It's a lot subtler than it is with a male Exile, but some of the implications are still there - her jealous behaviour, ''she loved you -
as one loves a champion.''
I'd argue for Visas, as well, even if her full romance isn't implemented - after all, her devotion is the same.

>>376022951
>>tfw all 3 hot ones
You mean four. Atris, Handmaiden and Visas are all clear enough about it (if a bit tsundere), and Mira is dissembling for reasons that become clear when you gain her trust so she chooses to act as a kind of big sister to Handmaiden instead.

>>376023598
Im not denying the possibility as it isnt totally clear how atris feels, but i definitely got the feeling that atris didnt amorously desire the female exile but she admired the exile as if she were some excellent peer who was better than her.

What is the objectively best order to play this game in?

Which companions are the most worth bringing along?

>>376017763
>>376022468
NOPE. the last jedi will be a carbon copy of empire, just like TFA was of ANH. We've already got:
1: speeders fighting walkers on a snowy planet
2: a master teaching the main character on a remote planet. Yoda chose exile, Luke chose exile. Yoda initially rejected luke, luke will initially reject Rey. I think that will be the part they are quoting when he says "it's time for the jedi to end." he's basically saying "go away kid, im done" and then decides to teach her anyway.
3. a main character in a coma (Finn/Solo)
4. The first order is out for vengeance against the resistance, just like in empire

we can probably expect to see an asteroid field scene, a saber duel between kylo and rey in which kylo reveals some truth to her, rey forsaking her training to go fight kylo, maybe a bounty hunter or something, maybe even a betrayal by a new character that is one of the main character's former friends

don't get your hopes up

>>376024276
1 and then 2 (obviously?)

the ones most worth bringing along are the ones you like, but if you're talking combat: in 1 it's probably Bastila and Canderous/carth if you want combat to be pretty easy. in 2 it's kreia and again either mandalore or atton.

if you want a challenge: go full ranged spec, only bring non-jedi in your party, and never use force powers. it's a hoot

>>376024530
No, I mean misson order. After Peragus what should I do first?

>>376024302
I know, but I can dream

>>376024759
oh christ, that's a more difficult question to answer. A lot of people recommend nar shadaa first, but im not sure why. I think saving onderon for later is probably smart, but going to dxun early is a good idea. IIRC I did dxun, then dantooine then nar shadaa then back to onderon, and i guess i did korriban before onderon. It doesn't really matter unless you're trying for some min-max build, in which case you should kinda already know what stops you need to make to get the right gear and shit.

>>376024302
this

they're deliberately copying the OT

>>376025156
>>376024759
I always do Dxun first so I can live out my fantasy of a Mandalorian RPG

KOTOR2 on Steam comes with the Restored Content Mod, right?

>>376025897
sorta, it has steam workshop and you install the restored content mod from there

>>376023309
>So this is how it feels like.
Thanks for making it, anon! I always like seeing people's images/screenshots, because I'm hopeless at creating things myself

How'd you get the nothin personel HK, did the dialogue spawn him behind you?

>>376025897

Not initially, but it's on the Workshop.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__gLIyeQYDU

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>>376026789
Best track in both games, or best track in the entirety of vidya?
>That pan over the rebuilt Enclave
>Kreia taking a seat to wait for your revelation
>You will not harm him. You will not harm him ever again.

>>376028104
>Best track in both games

Definitely the best in 2. Jeremy Soule is hard to beat though if you're including 1 in there. At least for the ambient stuff.

Absolute kino moment though.

>>376028104
That entire scene was what made kotor 2 my all time favorite game. Kreia's entire speech is amazing. Just thinking about it makes me wanna replay it for the 30th time

>>376028104
>Character creation in 1
>This fucking track playing the whole time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSKvMyruPTA

>>376028104
You have failed me
Completely
And
Utterly

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>>376026789
>>376028104
>>376028228
Mark Griskey is perfect replacement for John Williams. I don't know why Disney just won't use him if they don't want to give so many of their shekels to Williams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAumBkRESuY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgq5D1IeHcI
Stuff feels like it is made by Williams himself.
Jeremy Soule on other hand ost feels more original. You still feel Star Wars but it is somewhat different, ancient.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDwl-31afEc

>>376026789
mah nigga
mah nigga mah nigga

>>376021619
Now I haven't played KotOR in like 10 years but, wasn't it implied that Malak facilitated Revan's capture?

>>376022438
The disciple has some interesting exposition to deliver, but he himself is about as interesting as mass effect andromeda.

>>376010341
Sleeping in a bath filled with vibroblades.

How high do you think Revan's midichlorian count is?

>>376029174
>wasn't it implied that Malak facilitated Revan's capture?

Actually no. He says he had no idea it was going to happen.

What did happen was Revan would probably have kicked the shit out of the Jedi strike team but Malak opened fire on his battleship's bridge, injuring him. He took advantage of the opportunity and usurped Revan's dark lord of the Sith moniker.

>>376029409
I'd vibro his blade, if you catch my meaning.

>>376029174
More than that, he fired upon Revan’s ship. Tried to kill him while the Jedi were on board fighting him. That’s how Bastila was able to capture him; the explosion from Malak’s cannon knocked him out.

>>376026789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfsJTuNMkfE

Is there anything else in vidya with this combination of comfy and existential dread? Like, this place may be somewhat safe, but the threat is still out there, and your sense of security is always on the verge of being ripped away in an instant.

>>376026193
It was just normal conversation with HK, but right after it ended he teleported behind me (because of bugs apparently) rather than stay in place hiding behind his mines.

One of my favorite things about kotor 2 was that everytime you started a new game, probably after beating it again, you'd get better loot in containers and such. I remember getting some crazy armors and crystals after a few playthroughs. That was pretty awesome

>>376030193
The looting on most containers is random, sometimes you get BIS weapons really early, sometimes you don't.

>>376030193
WAIT
WUT

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Why did Darth Nihilus wear the mask?
Also why did he want to kill everything in the Galaxy?

>>376030193
>>376030419
>>sometimes you get BIS weapons really early, sometimes you don't.
>tfw you have Ossus Keeper Robes, a Sith Tremor Sword and Echani Vibroblade by the end of Telos
>Pick up two Mandalorian Rippers on Dxun

>>376030457
At least it's always what happened to me whenever i reeinstalled the game. First playthroughs would just be standard whatever loot and like 3 or 4 playthroughs later i would get some pretty awesome loot. Might just be luck of the draw, but it always happened to me that way

>>376023575
>Sion and Nihilus are basically in their own hell that they made for themselves.
But Nihilus only turned into that after the exile activated the mass shadow generator during the final battle of the mandalorian war on Malachor V, so it's actually the Exile's fault.

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>"resume the bombardment, wipe this pathetic planet from the face of the galaxy" before going all exterminatus on Taris
Now, Malak is a goofball but that was some badass shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpqxUdELpO0

>>376030516
Always thought he just a mass of force/energy.

Did anyone else do a dark side female exile run just to fulfill their corruption fetish?