Smash 5

remove corrin

>>375981109
Splatoon character and Ice Climbers are almost definite, Bomberman is a maybe, Snake and fist-man are a no-go

I don't see any major revamps happening, not the least with historically shit characters like Zelda and Ganon (coming from a melee ganon main).

>>375981471
>Spring Man
>No go

How could you possibly think this?

Reimu and Marisa.
Quote and Curly Brace ALT
Snake, Ice Climbers and Young Link return

Fuck you.

Sidon plz

>>375981109
>Inklings
Remind me why this is such a popular choice.
I know they're near-guaranteed, but why do you WANT those things in Smash?

>>375982248
What's not to like? They're cool unique characters from a fresh and new Nintendo IP.

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>>375981109

fuck k.rool

we need cranky

>>375981109

They should change the name of the next game to Fire Emblem and Friends

>>375982248
I don't, only because their central gimmick looks really fucking tough to program, and would be a bitch and a half to keep track of and play around.

>>375982439
They should change the name to "super advertisement bros"

>>375981531
Google the character's name, go to google images, he is the third picture after two pictures of a Megaman boss from 1995. His franchise was dead on arrival.
>>375982248
Because Splatoon is the only popular new Nintendo property from the last two generations
>>375982439
Aren't there as many Zelda characters? And we're almost guaranteed a new one seeing as BOTW is the only Switch game anyone owns.

>>375982010
>being this delusional
Fucking idiot

>>375981109

I more or less agree, except.

>Keep most of Ganondorf as is, he's a fun character but I wouldn't mind seeing some stuff actually pertain to his real character
>Bayonetta needs some serious changes
>Corrin needs some serious changes
>Jigglypuff should get some buffs
>Keep King Dedede as awesome as he is

How likely do we think this being announced at this years E3 is?

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Monster Hunter Man
Etrian Odyssey Girl
A grass Pokemon
Neptune

>>375982737
>ARMS is dead on arrival
>Despite having hundreds of pieces of fan art before release
>Despite currently being one of the most pre-ordered games in Japan
>Despite literal daily /v/ threads

Spring Man is a fucking lock

>>375982346
we need HE

>>375981109

Honestly don't see how people can still enjoy this franchise. It climaxed with Melee and never recovered. I've lost hope that it will get better.

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>>375982738
Fuck you, gaijin. You'll get camilla DLC and you will fucking love it.

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>>375981109
Just make melee HD

>>375984669
>>375984931

t. gaylee cuck

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>>375983483
Funny, none of those pieces of fanart appeared when I googled his name and he was the third picture after two pictures of a character from 1995. It's almost as though an irrelevant one-off villain from the seventh instalment of a franchise that is now long dead is more relevant than one of Nintendo's flagship properties.

>>375982010
you would have more luck having reimu in PS all stars if they ever made another one

>>375984931
Save your greasy fat fingers to type those words at E3, scum.

>>375982737
>Aren't there as many Zelda characters?
Zelda has five characters, FE has six.

>>375983054
>Keep King Dedede as awesome as he is
https://giphy.com/gifs/KVry9lNFt1vO0
>Keep King Dedede as awesome as he is
https://giphy.com/gifs/l2JhIxTdgsDvEdqrm?tc=1
>Keep King Dedede as awesome as he is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xFkcIjJ9Ro
>Keep King Dedede as awesome as he is
https://youtu.be/8xFkcIjJ9Ro?t=245
You fucking what mate?

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PLEASE give Samus her fucking Prime suit back

>>375985507
Ah you're right my mistake.

There are as many Pokemon characters then. Two of which are more explicitly clones than marth and roy.

Also there are 8 Mario characters, 10 including DK franchise, though that's not really an argument I'm willing to defend it's obvious there would be the most mario characters.

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>>375985618
Samus never had her Prime suit in Smash to begin with, to be fair.

She's always been based on the newest Sakamoto/R&D1 Metroid game in each Smash. In Melee she was based on Super Metroid, in Brawl Zero Mission, and Other M in Smash 4.

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Really been wanting an SMT rep as of recently.

>>375985593
Jesus christ competetive Sm4sh is boring, remind me again why /v/ hates melee?

>>375986002
>/v/ is one person

>snake
no

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>>375981109
I want him back so much.

>>375986002
because of you cucks shilling your unbalanced meta

>>375985272
Are we pretending that google fucking images is a reliable source for measuring popularity?

>>375985593
I quit smash because I mained Dedede. It's so awful playing him.
>zoning spacing defensive character forced to go in because his projectile gets shit on by any other projectile
>characters can totally ignore his high weight and recovery because of bullshit
>moves are slower and do less damage than other characters for no reason

>>375986403
Popularity is one metric that influences the results so yes it is a reliable source for measuring popularity.

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remind

Popo and Nana are not double character in their game.
You will even be hampered by the player 2.

>>375986387
There's a difference between a meta that is so greatly optimised that it favours a select few characters and a meta that favours a select few characters because the game is unbalanced.

Pro tip: Mew2King uses that name because he began competitive using Mew Two, who is now considered competitively unviable. When the scene first began it was practically a free for all, as Sm4sh is now, but eventually the skill ceiling became high enough that only a select few characters were viable.

Besides which saying it is unbalanced is a fallacy considering some of the most popular and highest ranked players use ganon (n0ne, Kage), yoshi (aMSa), luigi (Abate, Eddy Mexico), pikachu (Axe), characters often placed in the bottom half of any tier list.

>>375986704
>Popularity is one metric that influences the results

And Spring Man has plenty of that.

>>375986704
>google fox
>generic real life fox pictures
>google Lucas
>real life people named lucas
>google roy
>bunch of real life people named roy

I guess these characters will never get into smash :(

>>375981202
but corn belongs in shit

>>375982737
>His franchise was dead on arrival.

I want you to remember this post and feel extreme embarrassment when the next Smash comes out and arms dude is in it.

>>375985272
>funny, none of those pieces of fanart appeared
>says this when there's 2 pieces of Spring Man fanart on the same page

>>375987570
evidently not enough to appear before Spring Man of MegaMan 7
>>375987690
Those are popular names outside of the context of video games, Spring Man is not
>>375987982
Oh I really wouldn't doubt it, it would be pretty sad that they would have to force it in like that.

I don't remember when /v/ became such Nintendo apologists. His game looks like gimmicky 1-2-Switch garbage and he clearly isn't garnering any traction in the West.

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>never ever

it hurts

>>375981109
>Snake

I'm absolutely certain the only reason he wasn't in Smash 4 was because Konami are a bunch of retarded jews.

Unless that changes I wouldn't get my hopes up.

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>wanting another smash game

at the current rate nintendo is going, they will probably remove rolling and spot-dodging

I thought you were supposed to add new mechanics and make the games more fun with each sequel, but smash gets worse with each installment after Melee.

they can add all the characters they want, the game wont be fun

Smash 5 will have 1 stock tourneys

>>375988525
>likes melee
>doesn't want rolling to be removed
really makes one think

>>375988318
>Those are popular names

No different then Spring Man then

>>375981109
samus and lucario are my mains ;_;

i get lucario but what the fuck is wrong with samus

fuck you i'm triggered

Nerf diddy, sonic, sheik, remove dk ding dong and bowser grab combos

Add snake and banjo

Give ganon dark fists as default up b

>>375988318
>evidently not enough to appear before Spring Man of MegaMan 7

Well fucking duh. His game isn't even out yet, idiot.

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>>375988661

>>375988525

Give good physics back. Don't even care about wavedashing and l-cancelling, and landing lag should be innately very low

They might as well add Counter as a new mechanic entirely (replacing current shield parry: smaller window, greater reward) to finally be able to rid all the counters currently in the game. Ditch Rage, Wall Cling, Footstool Jumping. Standardize wall jumps

Honestly pushing forward, the series needs a new director entirely

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>>375988318
You sound upset

>>375987472
Those are all mid tiers

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so what are we inevitably getting from this

i honestly hope its something off the wall like Crabrawler or Salazzle. Reasonable hope is Bewear

>>375988750
>Spring Man from Megaman
>Spring Man from kinnikuman
>Spring Man from ARMS

It's obviously a popular name in japanese nerd culture. Honestly you just sound butthurt about ARMS for some reason

>>375988816
i would rather not homogenize every character my man

i agree on the counter thing though i fucking hate counter

1. salazaar from resident evil 4
2. a lemming
3. joe power
4. turok
5. doctor e.gad

>>375988938
it's going to be decidueye

why do you think something interesting would be put in? do you still have hope for a brighter future?

faggot

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>>375988745
Really great at generating hype, when is that game releasing? Next month? How unfortunate.
Also pic related
>>375988831
not really
>>375988956
Megaman 7 was released 22 years ago and I saw no results for Kinnikuman, evidently it isn't all that popular, also see above response, just a bit surprised people are coming at defence to such a nothing game, almost call it a little suspicious

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Never ever. Ever.

>>375989083
>>Melee gen 2
>>Brawl gen 4
>>Wiiu gen 6
rip gen 7

>>375989009

i wouldnt mind homogenizing some of the mechanics a bit in that regard (how good the wall jump is differs by characters, Bowsers would be not so good for instance), but the uniqueness comes from actually fleshing out the current cast. A 5th special move, meter, i dont know. You can see how Smash-likes such as Rivals of Aether can expand character-specific mechanics with shit like a burn stack and altering the stage with shit like ice

At the very least rework some characters. Little Mac, Lucario, Palutena are disasters

>>375989183
You're still pretending that google images is a reliable measurement for relevancy.

I think you might me functionally retarded

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>>375981109
Rework ganondorf
Add Black Shadow as a new F-Zero rep and give him ganondorfs moveset.

>>375981109

I fucking agree, maybe Lucario isn't that bad, I would rather have them buff the puff a bit (more aerial speed for example and rest should be like melee or kill 10% sooner).

Also, would like to see Samus buffed a bit, I fucking hate how ZSamus is better when it should be the other way around.

Ganon is the king of reads, powerful as shit, maybe just making some attacks a bit faster and giving him some better recovery.

>>375985272
>none of those pieces of fanart appeared when I googled his name
There's five pieces of fanart + the official render in the very screenshot you posted.

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these are the chances of every current character of making it into smash 5.
r8

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>>375989183
How triggered will you be when TWO ARMS characters are added?

>>375987690
tfw Mario is so big that if you google "Mario" it's 100% the character

>>375989525
know you it means moveset reworks not percentages right?

>>375989591
>pac-man and lil mac that low

lol no your a fucking dumbass

>>375989461
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/70897?hl=en
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank
popularity is a contributing factor you autist, just google it next time
>>375989594
wouldn't mind, they might add some variety to smash 4 and/or 5, I just don't think the characters are relevant

>>375989591

To be fair, pacman isn't that bad if they're not spamming the firehydrant and basing their entire fighting style around the damn thing

They don't bring back Megaman tho, and I won't buy it

Add Nova from Powerblade/Powerblade 2/Captain Saver

Nintendo is just sitting on that IP.

>>375989717
>popularity is a contributing factor

Google images isn't relevant to a game's popularity

>>375981109
Man I fucking hope Bomberman makes it into a Smash game. He seems like he has the potential to have a very fun and unique moveset. Planting and timing explosives across the stage is all I want to do.

>>375989717
>I just don't think the characters from a relevant new Nintendo IP are relevant

So what kind of autism you got, champ?

>>375982737
>Google the character's name, go to google images, he is the third picture after two pictures of a Megaman boss from 1995.
His game isn't even out yet, give him a chance

>>375989297
In most cases meter is implemented terribly. Cloud's meter, DK's giant punch, Shiek's needles to a certain extent, all completely idle charging attacks that don't reward good play or longevity of life but camping and boring slow play. Compare that to the meter of traditional fighting games and Smash 4 looks laughable sadly.

>>375989845

Solid Snake could already do that though and he could do more than that, whereas bomberman can only use bombs

Also, as long as Link has bombs, bomberman ain't happenin

>>375989835
it is representative of its popularity
>>375989910
>a relevant new Nintendo IP
>>375989930
start a thread in a month when his game has dropped and we'll see if he's moved up to the second position in google image search, I don't regular this board so hopefully if I'm wrong I wont see the thread

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>>375981109
Never ever...

>>375989778
The should replace Rock with Zero, aka the true Megaman poster boy

>>375990094
>it is representative of its popularity

But it isn't

>>375990254
see>>375989717

>>375985272
Does this matter before the game is out tho?

>>375990341
https://www.google.ca/search?q=ARMS+Spring+Man&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiU8uqm8dfTAhUL0YMKHff5Af8Q_AUICigB

Seems plenty popular

You can't make a Tooie joke in the OP without including Banjo in the add section >:^(

>>375989962
If we can't have Snake, then Bomberman should take his 3rd party spot. Snake's bomb gimmick was a lot of fun in Brawl.

Link's bombs would work completely differently than Bomberman's though so I don't think it would be an issue. I imagine he would be able to drop a few at a time, and kick them across the stage like in his games.

Add:
>Inkling
>Spring Man
>Snake
>Wolf
>Ice Climbers
>Waluigi
>Geno
>Phoenix Wright
>Layton
>Obligatory FE rep
>Obligatory Poke rep
>Eggman
>Sylux
>Duster
>Agumon w. evolutions
>Quote/Curly
>Shovel Knight
>Steve

Cut:
>No one

>>375990676
embarrassing argument, not even worth a (you) reaction image

>>375990890
>REEE HE'S ONLY POPULAR IF YOU VAGUELY TYPE HIS NAME!! REEEEEEE

lol stay mad

>>375990836
>Agumon

fuck yes

Add King K. Rool

>KEEP:

everyone

>REWORK:
Zelda
Ganondorf
Toon Link
Mewtwo
Wario
Lucina
Dark Pit
Pac-Man

>ADD:
Ice Grabbers
Paper Mario
Krystal
K. Rool
HE
Black Shadow
Simon/Trevor Belmont
Dark Samus
Fat Albert
The Capital City Goofball
deadmau5
Muk

>>375991004
honestly now because I am very interested, typically at this point I would leave because the person I'm talking to is clearly fishing for responses, what is your motivation to post shit like that knowing people will just make fun of you for sounding dumb?

>>375991161
>HE
They'll only add that if they also add HAS.

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Well, /v/, which one would you pick?

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I want Poochy from the Yoshi games

>>375991436
This is a hard one, but I'm gonna have to go with Group B

>>375991436
MYSTERY BOX

>>375991436
Group A.
Sorry, Waddle Dee, but your group has too many cons.

>>375991436
group B, not even a contest

unless the mystery box has Ray 01 in it

>>375991436
If Ivysaur is anything like we was in Project M I will go with A. Plus Master Chief in Smash Bros would just be gross.

>>375991641
I'm actually willing to go with group B just because of him 2bh

>>375991531
>>375991641
>>375991649
>>375991660
>>375991732
ALWAYS PICK THE MYSTERY BOX YOU FOOLS.

>>375981109
revamping ganondorf? I don't think so but I do think that if they did they should revamp his down b

>>375991757
y

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>>375981109
add pic related

this pic is from 2002 or something, probably the first i ever saved from the internet

>>375991757

I really want Young Link back... but the mystery box could be anything! It could even be Young Link!

>>375991859
kek no

I think two ARMS characters will be in. Either Spring Man or Ribbon Girl will get in as a face of the game but I also think they'll include DNA man because he just has a really interesting design.

>>375991859
>Taj and Wizpig
>Luke and Darth Vader
>Jinjos
>Spiderman and Hulk
>Superman and Batman
>Frogger
>Prof. Oak
>Tingle
This list is beautiful.

>>375992054
Spring Man is obviously getting in

I could also see Ribbon Girl as a semi-clone

What I want in the game

Isaac (Golden Sun)
Bomberman
Ray MK-II (Custom Robo)
Mona (Warioware)
Sami (Advance Wars)

What I expect:

Decidueye
FE Switch's self insert
Inkling
Arms thing
Lyn ascending from assist trophy as the token pretend to care about GBAbabbies post here

Revamp:

Jigglypuff
Pikachu
Ganondorf
Dr. Mario
Varia Suit Samus

>>375991859
Dampe's shovel move is fucking broken.

>>375981109
>Remove all anthro pokemon
>fix the smash fanbase forever

>>375991436
>>375991531
>>375991608
>>375991641
>>375991649
>>375991660
>>375991757
>>375991906

THE BOX IS OPEN!!

>>375992378
you forgot the pic

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>>375992378
Whoops, my bad.

>>375982737
>Splatoon won't hit 100,000 sales

Eh, I wouldn't mind if history repeated itself this time

>>375992460
shit box more like

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>>375989591
>Wario
>Below Mewtwo, and on the same level as Ryu, Cloud and Roy

kys

>>375992460
>Helix
>Qbby

FUCK. YES.

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>>375989591
>Bowser jr. and Duck Hunt not coming back

>>375992460
>Rawk Hawk
Almost salvaged that entire list. Not quite, but almost.

>>375992460
THE MYSTERY BOX IS PERFECT AS ALWAYS

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>>375983165
>Etrian Odyssey Girl (singular)
>not a small guild taking up a single character slot

>>375985907
Wario and Yoshi also have their own series.

This means the Mario roster consists of: Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Bowser Jr., Rosalina, and Dr. Mario.

Yes, I know Wario and Yoshi started in Mario Land 2 and Mario World respectivly, but since then they've developed their own universes.

Wario's character develpoed how it is today mainly from Wario Ware, and Yoshi's moves are mainly inspired from his games.

Please stop counting these guys as Mario characters.

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>>375992623
>Shitting on John Madden and Taco Meat

>>375985936
Geno will be added before a SMT character

>>375992954
Yes, literal whos

>>375987286
>implying Nana (or in some skins Popo) didn't make them fucking viable.

>>375992916
I was going off the logos below the characters on the ssbwiki

also by that extraneous justification you could say that Luigi isn't a Super Mario character because of Luigi's Mansion, or Peach isn't because of Super Princess Peach

though again I'll say it's not worth arguing, they could add 20 mario characters and I wouldn't care, the game is called Super Smash Bros for a reason

>>375989513
That....doesn't sound completely terrible...

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>>375993236
>I was going off the logos below the characters on the ssbwiki

?

>>375981202
wtf are you talking about just remove robin and lucina

>>375993342
oh I may have just included yoshi in my original 10 figure because he is right next to the mario and DK franchises and the egg logo kind of looks like the mushroom logo

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>>375989594
>more clones
very

>>375993435
>Removing Robin
>Removing Princess Lucina
Do you want Smash to have no cute girls aside from Palutena, Bayo and Jiggs?

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>yfw the first trailer for Smash 5 is a Fire Emblem reveal with a newcomer >yfw they confirm all of the FE characters from Sm4sh coming back

>>375989591
Fun fact: Duck hunt was originally going to be the 8-bit representative in Melee, but due to technical constraints, it couldn't be done.

And seeing that R.O.B. and Game & Watch come back, I'm pretty sure that Duck Hunt will.

And a reminder that Ice Climbers would have been in Smash 4 if the 3DS could have handled it.

>>375991859
>Pit
>Animal Crosser
>Diddy
>Mega Man
>Sonic
>Wario
>King Dedede
>Baby Bowser
>Olimar/Pikmin
How did he know?

>>375993554
>technical restraints
So a bird and a duck is out of the question, but taking the processing power to flatten a 3D model is totally fine?

>>375989591
Do I have to do this again?

The only reason Dark Pit, Dr. Mario, and Lucina were originally skins.

He just liked them too much and made 3 extra slots on the roster just for them. They never took up slots on the original roster for the game, and were just a little side thing Sakuri wanted to do.

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>>375991102
FUK YOU GAIJIN

YOU GET MORE FIRU EMBEMURU

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>>375993660
>Baby Bowser

>>375985593
That fucking youtube video calling it endlag reminds me why I hate smash players so much. They insist that they are just as much of a fighting game as everyone else, but refuse to use universally accepter terminology.

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>>375992460
RAWK HAWK DAY 1 PURCHASE FOR ME
PREPARE TO GET RAWKED

>>375993660
Because he put dozens and dozens of characters in and figured some of the more obvious ones and lucked out with Pit and Mega Man.

>>375993809
is this a joe joe refrance

>>375993771
>is a baby
>is named Bowser
Bowser Jr. is a Baby Bowser.

>>375993883

Bowser the second would make more sense

>>375991906
What if I told you Young Link never left?

He just got a fresh coat of paint in Brawl

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>>375993882
no you friccin moron

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No one talks about him?
He will replace shulk?

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>ganon is still a crappy slow falcon clone
I blame melee for this shit. Rushed piece of shit game shat out some garbage clones and now they cant get changed because people get pissy otherwise.

>>375993882
JoJo is a bad manga and a worse anime. It has one good game though.

>>375993979
who now

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add crash bandicoot

>>375993236
>also by that extraneous justification you could say that Luigi isn't a Super Mario character because of Luigi's Mansion, or Peach isn't because of Super Princess Peach

That isn't REALLY the same since Peach only had one game and Luigi had two, whereas the other have an actual series, but I see what you're saying

>>375993493
That doesn't explain the W tho...

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>>375992460
>toon link is removed

>>375993979
>No one talks about him?
We know nothing about him and he looks gay.
>He will replace shulk?
No, Shulk has attained meme-status and is a fan favorite among the new characters.

>>375994257
>Being a pedo

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>>375993537
Fair point

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>>375994315
>everyone is pedo becuase child
fuck you man i play toon link because I share some of my more cherished memories with my brother who played brawl with me before he died asshat

>>375994254
I never said wario was a super mario character, I said 10 were including the DK franchise, that includes:

>Mario
>Luigi
>Peach
>Bowser
>Dr Mario
>Yoshi
>DK
>Diddy
>Rosalina
>Bowswer Jr

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>>375994315
>everyone who likes Toon Link is a pedo

That doesn't even make sense

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>>375994347
Do not sexualize the Puff

>>375993676
Hey, I wasn't on the dev team

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>>375994008
>he posts incorrect opinions online
My, my, how embarrassing.

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what's wrong with lucario? with or without aura his move set is overall quite balanced, I feel. if anything some of his specials like double team or the aura grab thing get way too strong at 100+%, but all in all he's pretty ok. also neutral-B-hold-chargeable-spheres-of-catching-retards-off-guard are always appreciated. picked mewtwo up for that alone day 1 but only because I got him for free

>>375993883
Nigga, can you not post stuff this retarded?

Lyn is finally going to become playable right.
> #1 in the Fire Emblem Heroes vote

>>375993910
>>375994827
Bowser Jr. is the second baby named Bowser. So to call him baby Bowser would be technically correct.

>>375994446
Wario debuted in Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins. He is as much a Mario character as Princess Daisy.

>>375981109
Good picture.

Also Link will likely have a visual redesign.

>>375995302
I dunno it's a poorly made fan wiki, I don't know what you want me to say

>>375994875
Let's talk about this image here...

First off, I wouldn't oppose a Terta/Toon Zelda, but they would have to be seperate characters as the Smash 4 rule. (I'm ssuming Smash for Switch is going to be Smash 4 Deluxe)

As for the rest of the left column, I like this.

Secondly, I would be down for a Zelda and Ganon rework. I wouldn't mind an F-Zero character getting Ganondorf's current moveset.

Lucina, Dr. Mario, and Dark Pit weren't intended to be their own characters. they actually were skins for Marth, Mario, and Pit. He just liked them too much to stay skins, and made 3 extra slots on the roster for them (After the initial roster was decided from the very beginning)

I don't know about a Link rework, but a new color would be cool.

And finally, I know we all love Snake, but he'll never come back. The only reason he was in Brawl was because Kojima asked for Sakuri to put him in Melee. (Melee was almost ready to ship when Kojima asked, so Sakuri agreed to put him in Brawl.) Konami would never allow Snake in Smash again because, well...it's Konami...

>>375994875

>Dr. Mario and Pit become costume choices

They already are costume choices with voice acting. What does this even mean?

>>375995143
You're kind of right, except he isn't a baby. The games seem to range him from the ages of 5 to 12. Some games make him seem less...mentally developed, so it's hard to tell.

>>375986320
I miss him. Did pretty well with him in Brawl/PM

>>375995363
He has his ow emblem because he's representing the WarioWare series, just as Yoshi is representing his series and DK is representing the DKC series, but they're still Mario characters.

>>375995302
True, but since then he has is own series. Tell me, is Mario, Luigi, or Peach a Wario Ware character?

>>375995470
Of course he's a baby. He has the same design as Baby Bowser now, and Baby Bowser used to be bigger. He even wears a bib.

>>375995548
He has his ow emblem because he's representing the WarioWare series, just as Yoshi is representing his series and DK is representing the DKC series, but they're still Mario characters.

>>375982346
DK crew assist trophy when?

>>375995785
Just so we're clear here, and so I can either agree with or refute your point, in what game are you referring to?

As far as I'm aware Baby Bowser has only appeared in the Yoshi series and Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time

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>>375995858
Never because Lanky has no style
Chunky is a hell of a guy (and in NA that's a no no)
And this is Tiny Kong now

>>375994870
Extremely likely

>>375995389
>First off, I wouldn't oppose a Terta/Toon Zelda, but they would have to be seperate characters as the Smash 4 rule. (I'm ssuming Smash for Switch is going to be Smash 4 Deluxe)
I honestly just couldn't decide whether I wanted Tetra or Toon Zelda specifically so I threw both on there. I don't think a transformation is realistic.
>Secondly, I would be down for a Zelda and Ganon rework. I wouldn't mind an F-Zero character getting Ganondorf's current moveset.
This is the easiest way to preserve the current 'Dorf moveset and still make Ganon unique.
>Lucina, Dr. Mario, and Dark Pit weren't intended to be their own characters. they actually were skins for Marth, Mario, and Pit. He just liked them too much to stay skins, and made 3 extra slots on the roster for them (After the initial roster was decided from the very beginning)
I'm not complaining that they take up slots, but I would like the game to move to allowing costumes to be drastically different and even have different voice acting. I also think Lucina could be more original.
>I don't know about a Link rework, but a new color would be cool.
My idea is giving him a new tunic that incorporates all of his designs, and that gets four colours, and then give him the BotW outfit, which gets four colours.

>>375995432
They're separate characters currently. I think costumes should be allowed to deviate from the original character as much as Dark Pit and Dr. Mario do.

>>375995858
>>375996207
the real reason why they wont get in is because they are not Japanese made
and Nintendo hates Rareware

>>375995389
I bet Snake's moveset gets ported on Sami if somehow she became playable

>>375994875
Lucina should be a Marth skin.

Waifufags are retarded

>>375996352
>waifufags
I haven't even played the game she's from, but I've heard people say that she doesn't play like Marth at all and has her own original moveset. She already made it into Smash and I think her design is neat so I wouldn't be opposed to making her more original if they want to keep her.
There are too many FE characters in general though so it's hard for me to actually argue that she should stay.

>>375996264
>My idea is giving him a new tunic that incorporates all of his designs, and that gets four colours, and then give him the BotW outfit, which gets four colours.

Yeah, that's what I meant

>>375996294
I'm sorry, but who?

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>had Bomberman 64 as a child
>wanted Bomberman in Smash
>seemed less and less likely over the years
>Dream Mix TV World Fighters sucks
>when he didn't do well in the fan poll, I lost all hope
>now it seems like he's probably going to be in 5mash

A weight has been lifted.

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>>375984931
>Melee HD is actually made
>smelly autists will complain they can't play the game on their Shrek CRT so it's ruined forever

>>375996596
Pretty much

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>>375996671
Me too man.
I'm so openly fucking invested in Bomberman at this point that if they announce him for a new Smash I will probably get congratulatory phone calls from people I know.

>>375996087
And Yoshi Story

>>375985936
Watch them add the fucking Brotag if they were to approach Atlus for this.

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>>375989591
>Little Mac and Pac-Man
>requested since melee days
>biggest requests of smash history
>Bandai/Namco/Sunrise is literally Nintendo's best friend
>"Good Luck" and "There's no fucking way you're coming back"

>Wario and pit are somehow lower than Sonic and Toon Link
>Bowser Jr, Duck Hunt and Mii not coming back

)yUO9

>>375988318
/v/ became a nintendo apologist around the same time you became a gigantic faggot.

>>375991436
a

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ADD ME ALREADY

FUCK YOU SAMURAI

>le another anime swordman xDDDD

FUCK YOU HE HAS DJINN MAGIC

>>375996671
>>375996821
I wanna try '94, Land, and Legacy.

Are they good?

>>375996854
Yoshi series....That isn't a main entry in the series, but it's still in the series.

But again, which game are you referring to when you say Baby Bowser is seen as large?

Keep in mind too, in Baby Bowser fights, he mainly just jumps around, whereas B.J. operates giant robots.

>>375994870
Just came in to say the daily dose of 'I want lyn', since that's been covered, make the gameplay better obviously.

>>375996087
Yoshi's Island and Sunshine.

And the Karts.

>>375981109
Ridley

No I'm not memeing and fuck everyone who turned it into a meme.

>>375981109
Midna, doesn't even have to be imp

>>375992954
>doesnt know john madden
Hows that rock your under doing

>>375985272

Are you b8ing or actually this stupid? A character that literally has only existed for a few months, from a game that hasn't even released yet, doesn't have as many images on google images? No shit retard.

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>>375996983
'94 is pretty much another Super game (albeit shorter from memory) and as such is great.
I actually haven't played the other two as I mostly stick to other stuff and newer games in that style. The second DS game (the futuristic one) was fantastic.

Have you played Power Bomberman? It's a fangame based on the Super games and it's fucking great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02uA2fP9upo

>>375981109
>Revamping Ganondorf without adding someone like Blood Falcon to regain his old moveset

Fuck off.

>>375988525

4 was an improvement over Brawl.

>>375983483

And then it comes out, everyone realizes it's a pile of shit, and it's promptly forgotten.

>>375983084
Laura Kate Dale here, I'd bet my mutilated penis on it.

>>375981109

new:

king k rool
inklings
cap toad
paper mario
pokemon from gen 8
Spring Man
2 swordfighter from FE

third party

bomberman
snake
sora
heihachi mishima

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>>375997346
>Karts and Sunshine
>Baby Bowser

Sorry for coming off as kind of an asshole, but I take this topic VERY seriously as Bowser Jr. is my favorite Mario character

>>375997974
Just like how Splatoon was a shit game, and everyone forgot about it.

>>375981109
Just make a faster Melee with a much tighter roster that makes the core characters seem as impressive as they originally did. Playing Sm4sh felt like a fucking chore, everything felt drawn out and dull. I played it for a few weeks at best.

>>375993537
Lucina is shit

>>375998836
But she's cute and people like her.
Do you not want characters that are cute?
Would you rather have a cute, likable character like Lucina or some ugly unlikable broad like Daisy?

>>375997467
I don't get why people say he'd look weird if sized for the roster. He's a purple alien Pterosaur. He's always going to look weird. His ugly OM design aside if everyone has mega mushrooms on Pyrosphere the sizes look fine. Tweak him, make sure the main design cues are there, give him his wings from Super Metroid, and there ya go. A Frankenridley of sorts.

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Here you are, /v/. This is your first new third party fighter for Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch.

Look into your heart, know it to be true.

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Buff Puff pls.

>>375999798
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Microsoft buy Minecraft?

Pretty sure that means we won't be seeing him...

>>376000046
That's what they said about Minecraft bwing on a Nintendo console at all, anon. Now it's on two Nintendo consoles.

It's gonna happen.

>>375988451
Kojima said in an interview that he was never even approached about Snake being in Smash 4, and was disappointed about it.

I guess it's probably Konami's decision now though.

>>375981109
replace every character with fire emblem characters, cant have enough of those

>>375985907
>Two Pokémon characters are explicitly clones
Which ones?

>>376000791
Well, Mewtwo is a clone

>>376000783
Sounds cool. Like the Samurai Shodown of Smash.

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>>375981109
>add

Nothing, you cant balance 50+ characters without making the game mundane and boring which Smash 4 is. Not a Meleefag either before you try that tired and defunct damage control, I just want a smash game that doesn't feel like some defunct knockoff game which coincidentally the last 2 felt like. Sm4sh is just flat out sterile, and it's because of the insane mugen wannabe roster.

So I REMOVE
All Smash 4 new chars+doc/roy, they have their own games and dont really need continuation. Also take out some of the brawl characters like Charizard, Lucario, Sonic, and Ike. I'd also recombine zelda/shiek. That's it, not hating on 3rd parties or peoples main so dont get in a asshurt fit. It's just so a slew of new chars can be brought in while still having SOME balance that isn't nerfing the gameplay into the ground.

Now that I've suitably asspained the rosterfags, Lets talk about actual game balance. The reason Smash 4 succeeded and continues to be played is it fixed a lotta issues people have been screeching about on both sides and those are edgehogs and combos. Lets flip that on its head and remove the handholding AND the bullshit oversimple braindead combos because fuck you.

First thing we'll bring back is 64's ledge system. There is no faggoty edgehogging for free kills, but there is also at the same time no snap OR trumping for babby feelings. It's neat, tidy, and best of all SIMPLE so if you suck you lose. you're not getting janked by bad ledges, no bullshit its just a ledge you can grab and if you're not smart about blocking the other fighter lives.

Also, universal shield stun ALMOST like 64, not ENTIRELY move based like sm4sh, free aerial momentum. Allow free directional air dodging. Wavedashes are gone (good riddance) for good, no reason to not have it. Also remove infinite air dodge because fuck that baby shit.

Also make hal labs make it, fuck outsourcing. The only real smash games are made by them.

>>375989591
>he actually thinks Lucina won't be in the next Smash
Lucina will appear in everything Fire Emblem related until Fire Emblem dies completely

>>376001281
This isn't how you make money, anon. The roster is the number one sales point for these games, and if you gut half of it, you're gonna be missing out.

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>>376001582
This might shock you but I'm not a shareholder or investor, nor a shill. I don't care about a corporations money nor will I ever despite how it effects their possibility to stay in the market. I'm a consumer and I want the best experience in a game, not a opportunity for those jap jews to sell their cheap plastic paywall toys or other DLC. They're a corporation, not my friend.

tl;dr Fuck Nintendo's money. Was I clear enough?

>>376001715
You have shit taste though

>>375996518
>Second seals = different moveset

No

Sakurai played the game and tries to take the most from canon as he can. Therefore the most he can pull from is Lord and Great lord without being ridiculous , Great Lord has spears but taking away the iconic falchion for a regular old spear is a dumb idea, and just chucking javelins does not make uniqueness. And let's get this out of way, Exalted falchion just does extra damage to dragons, so that is another roadblock.

IS really fucked up in giving plain fighting animation to both chrom and lucina, Chrom doesn't really have anything exciting to draw from except for that spinning aether in a cutscene which feels too much like ike's aether. Compare that to corrin in which early in the game his game fighting animations does exactly what he does in smash with his dragon moves, it's as if IS made him with smash in mind.

Lucina fights just like her dad, and if he didn't make it in, she wouldn't either, lucky for her that popularity granted her a skin that ultimately turned into a character slot. Wouldn't be surprised that she returns to said skin. This here is the truth, not what fanboys tell you what to think.

>>376001715
Don't be daft, nonny. If they don't make money, they don't make the games. If there's no game, there's no experience whatsoever.

Just accept the games aren't ever gonna conform to whatever tidfit you throw.

>>376001859
ad hominem

>>376001980

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>>375981109

>>376002953
>remove anime swordfags for other anime swordfags
>furry shit

subhuman

>>376002953
>keep lucina and dark pit
>remove shulk and ryu
>add two more fucking fire emblem characters

hows it feel being an actual retard

>>376002953
>keep Lucina but drop Shulk
>keep Doctor Mario but drop unique characters
>Alm AND Celica
>fucking Daisy

This is the worst goddamn list I've ever seen. I'm actually impressed.

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>>376002953
>completely remove four fun fighters
>add Peach clone
Amazing.

>>376004518
>sceptile
I'm so sorry anon. At least there's always Pokken, right?

>>376004646
Don't forget keeping four clones over the unique fighters.

This is your brain on Melee.

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>>376004720
A guy can dream, anyway. With Lycanroc-Night as the designated gen 7 shillmon, I still hold out the faint hope that my boy might make the cut.

I'd totally settle for Pokken if they'd bring over the arcade content, though. It's a fun game but it's a bit dead on Wii U. Greedy nips.

>>375997910
this

>>375997086
Yoshi's Island

>>375988525
Melee is by far the worst game, though.

>>375998446
Kind of weird to have the worst one as your favorite, but I guess autistic babyfur types do tend to love him.

>>375991436
why should dark samus be a samus clone?

Revamp all veteran characters from Brawl or earlier. Their movesets are far lazier and less creative than the new additions, and they are the most core characters of core Nintendo series and deserve better.