Leave Persona (and to an extent Sony) to me.

But it's very likely that this game gets released for PS4 also.

>>375966480
How did you reach that conclusion?

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How many Jacks do you think we're gonna get in this?

>>375966569
They refered to the game as na HD Project, it's extremely easy to port to the PS4, the PS4 already has a huge JRPG audience, Persona 5 is the most successful game from Atlus and is on PS4.

It's obvious that it's not na exclusive.

>>375966881
I hope they bring back the 5 colored Jack Frosts from Devil Survivor 2, they were fun

>>375966402
Don't fuck this up Albert Odin.

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>>375966402
I'm sure all 13 nintendo fans that actually buy third party games will love it.

>>375967119
Loki start MegaTen by raping a teacher
Thor start SMT by nuking Japan
Odin's going to fuck shit up

>>375966569
>Made on unreal
>company now owned by sega
>project only called "HD"
>Atlus extensive history of porting and enhanced re-releases

If its switch forever exclusive I will be pretty shocked,

>>375967015
>>375967259
Why announce this at the Switch unveiling then? I can understand being able to port it to other platforms now that it is using UE4 but Nintendo have had a monopoly on SMT for a while now. It's almost as absurd as saying Monster Hunter 5 will come to the PS4.

>>375967259
You could say the same thing about Persona 5 lad.

>>375967259
>he believes Nintendo didn't pay out of their ass to keep this exclusive

>>375967226

That game was meh though

Not that Final/Apoloclypse sold much better.

>>375967350
Because It will also be released on the Switch, what is so strange about it? Fifa was presented at the Switch Conference and it's not an exclusive.

Nintendo don't have a monopoly over SMT and with PS4 selling like it is in the West, it's higly unlikely that Atlus will simply ignore that, even so after the sales of P5.

And Monster Hunter 5 will probably be multiplatform also if we go from what Capcom said in their investors meeting that portables are limiting Monster Hunter's sales in the West and that the PS4 will likely reach 100 million by 2020.

>>375966402
I know this is consolewar blah blah blah, but honestly, they have very separate and often not overlapping fanbases.
Persona has a focus heavily inclined towards the personal relationships and connections people make with the NPCs and party members, and as a result, is holding a high rate of appeal.
SMT is much less personal (although SMTIVA has a higher degree than past games) and has a broader focus that relies on overarching moral and ideological decisions surrounding the entirety of the in game world as the prime themes, and as a result, has less of a widespread appeal for new or casual players.

>>375967226
Half a million for Atlus is amazing for them, and it's only outdone by I believe P5 and P4. Half a million is super good and I'm pretty sure nothing mainline beats that.

>>375967418
P5 wasn't made on Unreal and development started on it back when they were owned by Index. Plus it hasn't even been a year since it's come out. P5 sold like candy though, and it came out as a multi-platform.

>>375967226
http://gematsu.com/2015/07/shin-megami-tensei-iv-sales-top-600000
>2015
And that's how you know that VGchartz is indeed full of shit.

>>375967447
>Nimtendo paying out there ass for a series that sells 500k copies
Lol

>>375967698
This is the West we are talking about here.

Darker, serious tone game has more widespread appeal in the West than slice of life theme game. The dating aspect of persona probably kept the series niche for a long time in the West rather than mainstream it

>>375968010
Yeah because Nocturne sure was a massive hit in the west amirite?

>>375967037
>from Devil Survivor 2

Someone didn't play the best SMT

>>375968010
Normalfags who like gritty grimdark fps games dont buy SMT. Weaboos buy these sort of games and they like slice of life.

>>375966881
>saherai
>asahee
>nanahee
>herkaho

>>375968214
To be fair that was back when Atlus was largely irrelevant to the West. That was probably the biggest release back in the day, that or Wizardry before they started gaining real headway.

Would people really be upset if V ends up being Switch exclusive? It's not like this is anything really new no? 3,4,4a,desu1+2 were all Nintendo exclusive.

>>375966402
>oh look, this thread again
>this time, my thread will be popular because I'm baiting even harder

Stop fucking making shitty retarded threads mentioning the garbage called Persona to bait the dumb faggots who like that piece of shit, you obnoxious mongoloid with feces for a brain.

>>375968519
Exclusives always make people mad.

>>375968519
Nocturne was on PS2. I and II have PS1 port

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>>375968519
>3
>Nintendo exclusive

>>375968579
>bait even harder

>>375968252
>>375968482
Yes it was a different time. Anime is now more mainstream than ever and grimdark anime is the strongest trending anime in the West now even among normalfags. Non-nintendo japan brand name is finally moving into the West.

>>375968519
I had a ps2, DS and 3DS so I didn't care.

I don't want to get a switch unless it gets a lot of good games and the price goes down. The wii u made me feel like I got robbed.

>>375967350
>Why announce this at the Switch unveiling then

Why do any company announce something during a hardware manufacturer's show, when they know it's going to be released elsewhere? Several reasons, including rights to its announcement. This is not a very compelling argument for Switch exclusivity.

>>375968779
Man I remember back when IV first release and people compare it to Persona

>Dark Souls of Persona games

>>375967778
How?

>>375967778
I hope you don't think sales increased by much since then.

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Why is SMT so much better than Shitsona, guys?
Is it them not focusing on waifu shit or on fucking 723923945 lines of dialogue?

>>375969085
No, but it had more than 580k two years ago. VGchartz can't even be assed to look up numbers on Google.

>>375969142
Social links are not fun

>>375969142
>Is it them not focusing on waifu shit

Someone hasn't played 4 or 4a

>>375968908
>Shit didn't come out until Jack Bros. for the Virtual Boy
>Then there was the western release as Revelations that flopped but kept generally localizing more popular games
>Finally get a hit in the west with Noctune because it featured Dante from the Devil May Cry series, and all related games get branded SMT in the west
>Persona 3 does really well, and then Persona becomes the front of western releases
>SMTIV manages to sell really well because it was a half-step between Persona and SMT, where it gets compared to being a more grim version where they are not your friends and mechanically more difficult.
Atlus is weird.

>>375967226
With the new engine, how likely do you guys think an SMT4 remake in the new engine would be? I'd think not that likely, but it would certainly be interesting.

>>375969640

If they combine 4 and 4a into one big game with additional story features it'd be sweet.

>>375969640
Seems remaking Nocturne would happen first because it is older.

>>375969640
It will hapoen eventually because they re-release most of their games.

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>>375967015
>>375967259
>>375967649

This is the most pathetic grasping at straws argument I've ever seen. What a fucking retard. It's like when 3Ds fags saw that a persona game was in development and they all thought it meant Persona 5. Fucking retards.

>>375969142
The music. Persona is full of shitty anime music.

>>375966881
Y-HEE-V-HO

>>375969921
If music was that important EO would be their best series. Oh, wait...

>>375969640
I'd much rather an SMT 1/2 remake. 4 is perfectly playable but 1 and 2 are rough to go back to.

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>>375966402
>Doi demons

>>375970108
But it is?

>>375970190
Eh, he's alright. He needs someone to tell him when to stop adding details.

>>375970190
I think most of Doi's demons from IV:A are solid, the shitty designs in IV are mostly from guest artists.

I hope they bring back Adramelech, Maitreya, and Krishna for V, as well as fusable Dagda and Danu

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>>375966402
2 wrong assumptions with your post:

1) Persona5 no longer lacks SMT-like features, such as negotiating with demons for items/money/capture (say, like Devil Summoner), and vastly expands on Persona mechanics, with social links now giving a plethora of gameplay bonuses outside of simple EXP boosts on fusions and having actual designed dungeons. Pretending like P5 is a watered down SMT at this point is just being dishonest and clearly would only come from someone who hasn't played it.

2) You assume the SMT game announced at Switch's conference is a Switch exclusive when it obviously won't be. Atlus always tends to make the SMT line of games available for the best selling consoles and/or multiple systems. They would never put this much effort on a new fully realised big 3D SMT game for a system that will have 8 to 12 million units upon the game's release. Considering it'll re-use Persona5 assets (namely the demon models, why wouldn't they) it's more than likely a Switch/PS4 multiplat game. Either way with no confirmation whatsoever you can't assume it's an exclusive (same for Square's Octopath Traveler) if it was they would've bragged about it already. At BEST you can say it's a 50/50 whether or not it's exlusive, but if you know Atlus trends you can make a very safe assumption that it won't be. The only way it would be exclusive to nintendo is if it was a 3DS title because that system has enough units out there to make the exclusivity worth it.

>>375970860
Explain Medusa to me. I hear a lot of complaining about it, but is seems to convey "Horrific ex-human snake monster that has snakes growing out of it" well

>>375969326
There's not much waifu shit in IV

And IV:A's girls and the power of friendship are so horribly written that Massacre is actually the better choice despite the edgyness

>>375966402
Why are SMTfags so threatened by the success of Persona?

>>375971254
Because Persona is causal weeb shit and has the danger of killing off the main series.

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>>375971118
IV version was just poorly drawn.

>>375969831
This.

>>375971339
It already did.

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>tfw can't into 3ds SMT games because i like seeing my characters attack and that smooth feeling i get whenever i see my player dodge an attack

I'll buy a switch for V if it's proper 3d but never getting a 3ds

>>375971254
>Dark Souls of Persona games

And Apocalypse's party

>>375971053
So if you go by what Atlus usually does, does that mean there is going to be a portable version of P5?

>>375969831
Deluded retards btfo

>>375968010
Casuals only like edgy western stuff.

When Japan does it, it's "tryhard animu shit"

what are the differences between persona and smt? I just started playing persona 3 and I'm enjoying it a lot, but I get a sense of animosity between fans of the two series. Isn't one a spinoff of the other?

>>375971531
Persona 5 Crimson
>>375971637
Dark Souls is really popular

>>375971053
>Either way with no confirmation whatsoever you can't assume it's an exclusive
That's all you can assume since it's not confirmed for any other platform.

>>375966480
>he's still in denial

Feels like no matter what happens with V people will be buttmad. If it's Nintendo exclusive people will be upset, if it goes multi plat people will be upset. For fucks sake it would be great if it went multiplat but it's not the end of the world if it isn't either. The worst thing is people are already getting mad when we don't have confirmation in either direction yet. Chill the fuck out and wait for more info.

>DUDE DEMONS LMAO
IV was trash, don't think V will be any better

>>375971053
>2) You assume the SMT game announced at Switch's conference is a Switch exclusive when it obviously won't be.
lol?

>>375968010
Original anon you replied to here
You have to also consider the style of game and who they would be marketing to though.
It has a very distinctive anime-looking style, and as a result, the potential audience is limited to a group commonly attracted to SoL themed or personally focused stories with a somewhat smaller audience for traditional SMT due to many people who would like it turning it down due to the artstyle or initial imagery.

>>375971815
>If it's Nintendo exclusive
>if
Hmm

>>375971254
Persona is mainstream abd they are huge hipsters

>>375966402
>lead character designer is Doi
it'll be shit

>>375971869
Hoy

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>mfw Persona 5 chose the shitty Tokyo version of this battle theme instead of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ijb2HipAxU

>>375971660
SMT basically has more difficult dungeons, and the fact that there's no pre-determined teammates mean that you have more freedom in building your team, allowing Atlus to throw crazier bosses at your face because you have no excuses to be under-prepared for them. Also no social sims, basically 90% dungeon crawling gameplay

As for the animosity, it's mostly because Persona's more popular making the franchise having a rep as waifuism JRPG games, which fans of other series (the MegaTen franchise has like 3 big series and several smaller ones) don't like. Back then there's even an article that call SMTIV the Dark Souls of Persona games

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Leave the future of SMT to us

>>375971682
People conveniently ignore DS is japanese. I see mental gymnastics like "it's a WRPG from japan that's why it's good" all the time

>>375971502
>i like seeing my characters attack and that smooth feeling i get whenever i see my player dodge an attack
So you only played Nocturne, dds and maybe raidou?

>>375971254

>Gee Persona is sure doing swell!
>The mainline ain't doing so well how can we fix this?
>SMTIVA

But seriously. There isn't anything to worry about. The Personafags won't touch the mainline games because they're "too hard".

>>375969831
This is exactly what came to mind when seeing this thread. How do these people never learn?

>>375967259
This.

>>375967418
That's probably getting ported too sooner or later.

>>375972262
>The mainline ain't doing so well
Not as well as Persona (as always) but IV was the best selling mainline game.

>>375969831
/thread

>>375972262
>he Personafags won't touch the mainline games because they're "too hard".
But I have beaten SMT IV, IVA, DeSu and am enjoying Nocturne right now.

>>375972407
>he thinks it's multiplat
lol

>>375969831
Someone post that screenshot.

>>375972197
But people waifu the fuck out of SMT as well. Just post Moh Shuvuu, Lilim, Mara or Alice.

>>375966402
I don't really care if is or isn't.
I'm just happy there's another console SMT.
I'll go run out and buy a Switch if I need to, but I honestly doubt that it will be Switch exclusive.

>>375967037
>from Devil Survivor 2
Kill yourself.

>>375967350
>Why announce this at the Switch unveiling then?

They announced FF7 Remake at the PS4 event.

>>375972253
Not that guy but those animation is fucking magical man. Demi-fiend's tats lights up shooting laser beams at people while SACRIFICE THE SON OF HEAVEN blast in the background is an experience

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Leave Megami Tensei to me.

>>375972528
There is a difference with smt demon "waifus" and persona "waifus" and if you visited the generals it is clear as day or on a thread on /v/. Yes sure a few anons will say its their waifu but really it just makes their pee pee hard and why not? SMT has amazing semon demons but the majority of discussing in /pg/ and persona threads on /v/ are about the waifus, my wife rise, etc. They take it a step further then Moh shuvvu etc

>>375972756
All I want for this game to have is SMT demons as enemies. I just want a medieval SMT game and Last bibled sucked ass

>>375972647
Yeah, two years ago

>>375972846
So the Mikado part of SMTIV?

>>375972031
When it comes to the anime scene itself, non-SoL and gritty anime are doing very well right now in the mainstream. It can easily go into video game scene.

>>375967698
No Persona is a visual novel waifu dating sim

>>375972681
I am not saying that the 3d models are a bad thing, he says that he can't into 3ds smt, but he actually just can't into smt in general except for a handful of them.

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>>375972528
>waifuing demons

>>375972253
>So you only played Nocturne, dds and maybe raidou?

Yes

I have no interest in the others

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>>375966480
I hope it does, but I wouldn't call it very likely. Possible, but not likely.

>>375969991

I want to see Jack Frost as the Creator.

>>375973025
My name is Anthony Burch.

>>375972889
Yes exactly that.
Morrowind with demon negations and fusion
It comes close with being able to summen as much demons as I want and killing vivic and I can even roleplay as a samurai but still.

I can not think of one game as good as enemy designs as SMT

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>>375966881
I hope they have Frost Ace, I was disappointed to see he wasn't in P5.

>>375972197
Hmm. Alright, thank you.

>>375971339
Your totally delusional if you think Persona has done anything but help the Megaten franchise gain more attention. I would have never discovered SMT if it weren't for Persona 4 Golden being the only Vita game back when it came out. Now I've played every SMT except the first 2 and I've played a bunch of the spin offs.

Persona is the main series btw

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>>375969142
They're both great.

>>375966480

NO, it's a Nintendo exclusive maybe if you paid attention you'd actually know that. Enjoy Persona 5 Dance though.

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>>375973096
Come on man, really? You are missing a shitton of great games just because you can't get over some animations? Play the other games, and I guarantee that you won't be as upset about 2D battles as you think.

>>375967350
I dunno, why did Kojima announce Rising at Microsoft's E3 conference?

>>375973168
Pokemon

>>375969831
>This is the most pathetic grasping at straws argument I've ever seen.

>Not the Persona 5 will be an exclusive for WiiU posts

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The ONLY way to surpass Persona in popularity is go the ARPG route with proper budget and not like that awful shit Raidou was

It will appeal to soulsfags just like Nioh did and be a 1-2 million seller


Nobody cares about turn based trash in 2017 and Persona 5 only sold because of waifu's

>>375973297
No biggie, not missing out on much

>>375973281
You're not allowed to like both

I fucking hate Mem Aleph and they're going to make her way easier in the remake. How does everyone feel about this?

>>375972901
They are, but it still carries some stigma among many that would buy games with the same themes but more "realistic" or traditional fantasy graphics or styles.
>>375972936
Yes, that fits what I said if you want to sum it into a different, shorter manner.

>>375973343
>Computer nerd that summoned demons that took over and killed classmates and had Loki rape his teacher because they hurt his fee-fees and didn't bother thinking this was wrong until a cute girl told him not to.

>>375971660
>Isn't one a spinoff of the other?
Yes. SMT is a spinoff of the Persona games

>>375972528
Just go to Rule34.paheal and search those names and then compare them with the persona entries.

>Mara, Mara has like 5 you cheeky cunt

I dont understand the appeal of P3 and P4
Half the game is VN shit but ok fine if its good then fine

But the majority of Slinks in P3/4 are shit
And P3's combat is awful. And the story does not pick up until after 50%
P4's writting is alot worse and the characters are just awful

>>375973518
No way they are going to make Mem Aleph eaiser they have not said anything of that sort. Just that you can save anywere (if you use this you are a massive faggot) and new demons and new route

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>>375971531
Sales-wise there's no need. The game released on a 80million unit system (PS3) and a 60 million unit system (PS4), and already surpassed sales of any other Persona game.

It may still be the case, though they would have to downscale it for the Vita, hopefuly not going as far as giving it the P3P treatment. It's not coming to the Switch if that's what you were getting at.

>>375971760
>>375971957
How is it all you can assume? All we know is that it's coming to the Switch. Obviously you can assume it may come to other systems too, there's nothing holding back that possibility. Multiplats get announced of MS/Nintendo/Sony conferences all the time, how new can you be?

It's completely meaningless where a game is announced unless they directly say without a shadow of a doubt that it'll be exclusive (even then some games are announced as exclusives when it's only a 6month contract and get released on other systems shortly after, MS did this to 90% of Xbone's library for instance - so even here there's no guarantee anymore)

>>375973573
I still find it amazing that this amazing series could spawn from such trashy novels.

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>>375973573
Yeah exactly

>School shooter carrying a MP5 getting bullied by a group of unarmed thugs

>>375966402
Last I saw this got confirmed for PS4

>>375966402
You're a fucking idiot if you think everything named SMT is not coming to PlayStation - PS4 owners basically just made ATLUS relevant in the West by releasing a game not on a shitty handheld no one cares about

>>375973490
waifus are pretty much an afterthought in Persona 5 and the game is more focused on the turn based combat than ever before. And it outsold Nioh if I remember correctly.

Do any real SMT fans give a dam if SMTHD is a muiltiplat or is it just more Console war bs?If it comes out for the switch it will suck ass for me since I will be forced to get it. And if it comes out for muiltiplat it would be perfect since you know, more people will be able to play this niche as fuck franchise.

>>375973648
Nice backtracking fuckwad.

>Go by what Atlus always does
>But not really because of Nintendo

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>>375973648
I don't know man. This picture from Atlus' Twitter seems pretty definitive to me. If it were multiplat, why only show the Switch logo here?

>>375973648
>How is it all you can assume? All we know is that it's coming to the Switch.
Why do you answer your own questions? That's it, it's literally all we know about the game.

>Play SMT
>Love how you can do pretty much anything with your party build with hundreds of demons.
>Play Persona
>There's now only one "do anything" slot in your battle party and the other three are taken up by the same 5 or 6 asshats the entire game with no customization.

Fuck this.

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It will be casual shit, the more popular Atlus get the more dumbed down their games will be and SMT will be caught up in it. Just watch SJ remake become the babby game entry

>>375973704
>trashy novels

The "summoning demons from computer" premise is pretty amazing

>>375973814
But muh SMT! Persona is for babies! It's not dark and mature enough for me!

I just want Nocturne and the two Raido games re-released on PS4

>>375973741
I saw that thread too. SMTV for PS4 confirmed.

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>>375973838
Doesn't matter to me. If it's Switch only I get a Switch. If it's on PS4 I borrow my friends PS4.

>>375971053
>Pretending like P5 is a watered down SMT at this point is just being dishonest and clearly would only come from someone who hasn't played it.
>>Can only deploy one 'demon' (MC is the only one allowed to change Persona) whereas every mainline SMT focuses on the player fighting alongside 3 or more demons that they recruited, fused and chose to deploy
>>One More system is all rewards, no punishment; Press Turn punishes you severely for not acknowledging enemy resistances or covering your own weaknesses
No, it's still watered down SMT because it waters down the aspects that are most important to SMT's gameplay; team building. The entire gameplay flow of SMT is 'recruit a party from the ranks of your enemies, then fuse them away when they stop being useful'.

>>375973838
I'm getting a Switch for this and XB2

>>375973760
>DUDE SMT HAS BEEN EXCLUSIVE TO NINTENDO FOR MULTIPLE YEARS NOW BUT TRUST ME ITS COMING TO THE PS4 BECAUSE I SAID SO LETS JUST IGNORE THE FACT THAT SMT HASNT BEEN ON PLAYSTATION SINCE THE SECOND ITERATION LMAO
What did Anonymous mean by this?

>>375973490

Actually, it sold because of the aesthetic and fluff. The waifus were cherry on top. The mainstream lapped that UI up.

>>375973953
True, that is a really cool concept. I suppose I took that for granted because I was already familiar with the games before I read the book. The idea of the Demon Summoning Program and the demons from multiple different mythologies was definitely cool and original. But the actual writing was pretty bad.

>>375973838
>niche as fuck franchise.
>third biggest RPG series in Japan

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>Kaneko and Cozy have given up on SMT ages ago
>SMTfags still haven't
SAD!

>>375974041
Enemy did get One More on crits/hitting weakness though, like you

>>375974162
>Cozy
Cozy is a hack.

>>375974169
He means you don't lose turns when you fuck up, like how you do in Press Turn SMTs. No punishment.

>>375974140
>3rd
>FF
>Dragon quest
>Pokemon
more like fourth but I know am forgetting some. And even then its niche in the west. Where I live

>>375974109
>second

>>375974041
Didn't all characters in Persona 1 & 2 have the wild card? I'd wish they'd bring that back.

>>375973814
Only shipped, nobody has actual figures besides the japan release.

Also nah man you gotta be oblivious if you think the waifu's and the anime shit isn't the selling point. Dungeons are short and can be done in a 1-2 days while the only other thing is garbage mementos, 20 whole days to play as the anime sim. Can't be telling me there's a focus to the combat with stuff like this

>>375974241
There's also Tales and the Kiseki games

>>375974041
>Press Turn punishes you severely for not acknowledging enemy resistances or covering your own weaknesses
That makes the game easier though, since you can change your natural weakneases but the enemies can't.

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Did an anon mention if in an earlier thread?

>>375974241
>FF
>Dragon Quest
>Pokemon
>Legend of Heroes
>Tales
>Xeno

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>>375974162
Kaneko hasn't given up, he's just lost his way.

>>375974041
Persona is the basic SMT combat with a different gimmick (time management).

I wouldn't call it watered down or inferior, it just obviously tries something different and people get extremely buttmad it just worked for wider appeal.

>>375974118
>The mainstream lapped that UI up.

Besides the menu screens the actual UI or HUD when you're playing is garbage, shit is so bloated i hate it when devs give you no options to have a clear screent

>>375974356
me on the left, believing in gideon

>>375974342
You can't change it in battle though. And you won't just encounter the same demons every battle. You'll encounter different demons, with different weaknesses and resistances.

>>375974342
>since you can change your natural weakneases but the enemies can't.

You can't change in battle unlike persona, switching persona's

>>375966402
COMPLETE
FRANCHISE
SALVATION

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>>375970135
a remake of 1 and 2 into one cartridge for switch would be cool

>>375974267
It was less wildcard and more "everyone has different affinity with different arcana", but the end result is everyone has access to more Persona.

>that one guy in P1 who's the halfbrother of the main villain and has access to 5~ Arcana that no-one else can use, because he's gone through some shit
I like how it tied into the Jung themes, different 'masks' can be comfortable or uncomfortable.

>>375974443
the problem with the wider appeal is that the actual mainline, the one that is NOT only half gameplay suffers. Case and point, SMTIV:A and its cast and maybe even IV and SJ being on handheld

>>375974356
Check gideons twitter. He announced he will soon be making a test to see who will beta test if... and determine who is in it to actually beta test it, or just play it

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>>375971254
because they literally can't compete

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>Nintendo exclusive Atlus game

That NEVER happens.

>>375974584
I hope they bring my dude Krishna back, there should have been a Divine Powers route, all the Divine Powers were great

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>>375974624
>they remade the original Famicom MegaTen games as "Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei" ('Old Testament Megami Tensei') on the Super Famicom
>they'll never remake Kyuuyaku MegaTen alongside SMT1, 2 and if.. and release it as "Old and New Testament Megami Tensei"
>you'll never get a bonus boss fight against Nakajima in if... as reward for playing through every game in order

>>375973640
P5 slinks are good because other then the cast and school shooter, everyone else were adults. Adults are more interesting then high school bs. Also helps the game play is not as (still watered down SMT) AND the VN stuff was not half bad and the cast took the story and what was happening alot more seriously, and the interactions minus one scene, were not so god dam tropy.

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>>375974773
Daily reminder this is acknowledged as an SMT game on google

>>375973490
>waifu's
their what?

>>375974773
>You can see her breasts
Could you spoiler please?

>>375966402
I hope it's not Switch-exclusive, Switch seems better for low-intensity stuff like Mario Kart. I want SMT to be on good hardware, same with Monster Hunter.

This is why you should own a PS4, a Switch, and a PC. No matter what you can't lose.

>>375973101
Shit does anyone have that image of Hero's desktop filled with tons of shady icons and toolbars from downloading random suspicious shit off DDS-NET?
At least, I'm pretty sure I didn't just imagine it.

>>375974908
FE FAGS KEKED

>>375974454

>Bloated

Found the FFaggot

>>375974510
Then... don't hit their resistances? Seriously, just compare how often you hit a resistance to how often the enemies do and tell me the game would be easier if losing turns wasn't a thing.

>>375974863
P5 slinks are shit because it helps them be lazy with developing characters in the main story

Should be locked to non party members

>>375974267
They can change between Personas within their Arcana, and each character has a main Arcana and other secondary Arcana

>>375973904
Something something Nintendo trickery.
Something something paid shilling.
Something something everyone does it.

>>375974627
And that they tossed out that cool system for pre set Personas? So disappointing. After bringing back demon recruiting it would be really cool if they brought this back too in P6

>>375974579
Yeah, you just can change the rest of your team to demons that resist the element you want.

>>375975020
Well yea your party members slinks are rather meh

But I was talking about non party member ones.

>>375974908
It IS a megaten and in the west every megaten is known as "SMT".

>>375971254
Because they're idiots.

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>>375974960
I need to sort out my SMT reaction images folder, this wasn't in my 'comics' folder at all.

>>375973863
I didn't say Atlus doesn't release on nintendo system. I outright told you that if this game is Nintendo exclusive it'll be a 3DS+Switch deal. Switch alone won't cut it. But seeing that this SMT is an "HD project" I find it unlikely that that'll be the case. So the only other option is Switch+PS4. If you have any better ideas then go ahead. Xbone release? PC release? Vita/PS3 release? I find all of those more unlikely than a PS4 release.

If you're refering to P5 not coming to Switch it's simply because no persona game other than a spin-off EtrianOdyssey staff collab have been on Nintendo platforms. Certenally a P5 spin-off might, but not the main game.

>>375973904
Sony removes mention of every other platform on their trailers and posts too, it's meaningless. Companies also pay for marketing rights. MS did it for Battlefield1 commercials (at least initially) Sony did it for Destiny. This happens all the time. Yes, platform holders nowadays pay good money to simply have a game announced on their conference and even more so for marketing like the pic you posted. They do it exactly because people like you will assume it's exclusive and buy the console in advance, making it a good deal for the platform holder in the end. They didn't need to pay for development costs or even more expensive long-term exclusivity contracts, just a fraction of the price to alure enough people to the system.

>>375973913
You said it would ONLY come to the Switch because it was announced at a Nintendo conference. I'm saying that's not the only possible assumption in a situation like this.

I guess we agree to agree

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>>375974978
Come on man, some of this is jarring in the dungeon especially that weird color scheme that comes up there.

>>375975076
They bring back (just a mention) the big good dude (Philemon) in P5 so probably

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>>375974863
>everyone else were adults
Your party members 1,2,3 and Mishima were adults?

>Adults are more interesting then high school bs
Fortune, Death, Devil, and Temperance were all fucking boring. Sun and Hanged Man were the only good ones.

> Also helps the game play is not as (still watered down SMT
Its literally just a combination of all the mechanics in the series up to this point.

>AND the VN stuff was not half bad
They were the fucking same

>the cast took the story and what was happening alot more seriously, and the interactions minus one scene, were not so god dam tropy.
These were all the worst fucking aspects of the game. How anyone can say P3/P4 has shit writing and praise P5 is beyond me.

>>375975118
>you just can change the rest of your team to demons that resist the element you want.

and waste 2 whole turns?

You can literally do the same thing in P5 if some one is weak to something you swap them out in a single turn

>>375974958
>I want SMT to be on good hardware
Good thing the Switch is good hardware

>>375975426
??? They said "other than cast and the school shooter".

>>375975286
>You said it would ONLY come to the Switch because it was announced at a Nintendo conference.
I never said that, I just said the only platform they ever announced it for was the Switch. So for now we can only assume that it's Awitch exclusive.

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>>375975283
Cheers m8 I couldn't find that anywhere

>>375966402
People don't play Persona for the SMT gameplay, they play it for the characters, social links, story, and highschool setting.

>>375975541
>Weaker than the PS3

>>375971053
>You assume the SMT game announced at Switch's conference is a Switch exclusive when it obviously won't be. Atlus always tends to make the SMT line of games available for the best selling consoles and/or multiple systems

Gee, I sure am glad the last three mainline SMT games got released on systems other than Nintendo handhelds. Oh wait...

>>375975541

The thing can't even maintain 30 fps on BotW

>>375975567
Hifumi and Mishima are teenagers dumbfuck

>>375974863
>the cast took the story and what was happening alot more seriously

hahahahaha

You wish, Makoto had to discipline these fucks and even then they didn't listen to her

Nobody in the game took seriously until the Akechi trap

>>375975645
>Strange Journey
>Mainline

>>375975727
Strange Journey is a mainline, but not numbered, like Nine, If and Imagine

>>375975541
>Good thing the Switch is good hardware

It's alright but not as good as it could be. I own one and it makes for a great handheld but a mediocre console unless you're playing really basic shit like MK8D.

Which is fine, I knew what I was signing up for. Doesn't change the fact that I want games like SMT and MH on hardware that will do them justice. If these games are Switch exclusive I'm concerned that they will have to make sacrifices they wouldn't have to make on PS4.

>>375975076
It wouldn't work in post-2 Persona because the wild card is related to the social sim elements and how the protagonist of each game has a different "persona" when he talks to a Slink character. Plus 1 (non-snow quest) and 2 are really easy games because of the fact everyone has access to a different Persona so the system would need a major balance overhaul to work.

>>375975727
SJ is mainline.

>>375975680
The school shooter is Mishima idiot
I forgot about Hifumi. So wow 2 characters you sure got me there.

>>375975695
Did we play the same game anon?

>>375975286
>Sony removes mention of every other platform on their trailers and posts too, it's meaningless
When has Nintendo ever done this? Go ahead and name one time.

> Companies also pay for marketing rights. MS did it for Battlefield1 commercials (at least initially) Sony did it for Destiny. This happens all the time.
Do you realize how obscure this series is? SMT4 is one of the best selling games in the series. It only sold around 600,000 copies. Do you really think Nintendo would pay marketing rights for this game of all things?

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>>375975541
>Good thing the Switch is good hardware
>can't even run a shitty musou game as good as PS4
>powerful

Shit is getting last gen fifa games too. Literally laughable hardware.

>>375966402
In all honesty the SMT spinoffs have been superior to the main series in every way.
prefer the Raidou games desu

>>375975614
>Brought to life because people believed he was alive
His Fuhrer /ourguy/?

>>375976016

DQ runs like shit on the PS4. Can't even maintain a steady 60fps.

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>>375975987
>Did we play the same game anon?
>the cast took their shit seriously

>>375976140
Nice lie Nintendo cuck

>>375976218
They are still going to wanna hang out anon it is still a purse owner game

What I meant was in the story segments, they took it seriously. You dense fucker

>>375974958

Monster Hunter I can get but SMT? What are you expecting from it? If looks as good as Tokyo Mirage at the minimum people would be pleased. We don't need hyper realistic 4k graphics on SMT.

>>375976218
Yakuza is always a priority.

>>375975612
>I never said that
>So for now we can only assume that it's Awitch exclusive.
So you DID say that. Why deny it?

No, you assume it's a multiplat until further notice.
MG:Rising was announced at a MS conference, so was Titalfall, so was TombRaider's reboot. So was Destiny's gameplay reveal (on Sony's conference) and most of its initial marketing. Where you announce a game reveals nothing about its exclusivity.

>>375975645
How does that contradict what I said in any way, shape or form?
3DS sold 66m units, more than enough to warrant the development of a lower budget secondary IP from Atlus.
You even quoted me on that:
>Atlus always tends to make the SMT line of games available for the best selling consoles
How is the 3DS not Nintendo's (current) best selling console?

>>375976004
>Do you really think Nintendo would pay marketing rights for this game of all things?
Yes. Considering that such rights are inexpensive precisely because the series isn't that popular. Are you assuming that this move is as expensive as paying for multi-million AAA western titles?

Nintendo wants the core audience back (outside of those who already buy Nintendo IPs like Mario) it's only natural they'd do this.

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>>375976365
All that great hardware and can't even run at 60fps, dipshit.

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>>375976004
>When has Nintendo ever done this? Go ahead and name one time.

Not him but it's pretty common, actually. These types of things are advertisements for the hardware just as much as the software, Nintendo isn't obliged to mention their competition.

>>375976664
That screen is from a Nintendo Direct. Of course they're not going to put other system logos there.

>>375974863
>cast took the story and what was happening alot more seriously, and the interactions minus one scene, were not so god dam tropy.
P5 probably has the worst writing of any Persona game. Hashino is a complete fucking hack and even the 4 cast was better than 5.

Why do I have a feeling people arguing over consoles and engaging in console wars are not real SMT fans

>>375974356
WHERE IS IT?
ANSWER ME GIDEON

>>375976821
Reminder that the true Chaos would just pirate the games.

>>375976814
How is it poorly written?
>P4 cast better then P5
Oh, a P4babby never mind. that or just bait

>>375976658
>Switch lower FPS than the Shita

WEW LAD
Not him, but why burn yourself like this bro?

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>>375976771
>moving goalposts

SMT games have been absolute shit since they where left on Nintendo's garbage ass console.

LOL if you think whatever they got cooking will sell more than P5, the switch is another Wii U tier failure and nothing will help it, if they're smart it will be a timed exclusive so they can recoup losses for making a game for the shitty ass switch.

>>375976595
I never said anything about the Nintendo conference, dummy. I assume it's Switch exclusive because they only announced it for the Switch and didn't even hint about other platforms so far.

>>375976664
It came out on Switch first, that's why they advertise it like that.

>>375976771
>name one time
>perfect example
>B-B-UT IT DOESN'T COUNT
Nice

>>375976771
It's a trailer that only has their platform mentioned. Where it's from doesn't really factor in. Any trailer for a multiplat put out by Nintendo only mentions the Nintendo platforms, just like any trailer for a multiplat put out by Sony only mentions the Sony platforms.

Only trailers put out by the actual developers of the game mention all of the platforms.

>>375977085
>It came out on Switch first, that's why they advertise it like that.

Not true at all, Yacht Club put out the exact same trailer but with no logos.

Nintendo adds their mark to every trailer they host or put out, same with Sony and Microsoft.

>>375973490
>smtfags this mad
You have to suck persona's cock forever. It's the only reason you keep getting you easy to beat games.

>>375977051
maybe I'm the crazy one. I don't even assume the Crash Bandicoot remakes will be PS4 exclusive since they aren't developed by NaughtyDog and the IP belongs to Activision.

I do the same with this SMT game and Octopath Traveler. In my mind they are both multiplats

>>375977138
>>375977272

Sonic mania trailer shows all platforms on Nintendo's channel while Sony only shows PS4 logo. Same with something like Snakepass. Shovel Knight only shows Switch because it launched on that system and then released a month later on everything else.

>>375967350
And not once they called it exclusive unlike other games.

>>375967350
Because besides Zelda, why would you ever buy a Switch?

>>375968519
the only exceptional one durriing nintendo period is SJ

i would take SMT PS2 era over these time of dumb demon design and personafication SMT

>>375977428
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Super Bomberman R apparently. Puyo Puyo Tetris is popular, but a multiplat.

>>375977396
This

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>>375976910
Because Square Enix is a shitty company that doesn't optimize their games. The fact that the framerate is all over the place in all three versions, and the fact that the PS4 can't even hit 60 is proof of that. We don't have many other multiplats to compare the Switch to, with Snake Pass and Lego City Undercover being the only other games we can really use. And they both run at a comparable level to other platforms.

>>375968519
I don't give a fuck really. I kinda like achievements though but that doesn't have any influence on the quality of the game.

Also by the time it would be finished, the Switch will probably have a few games that aren't WiiU ports so I won't get a Switch just for one game.
But I'm still waiting for HD being called exclusive. SMT was always all over the place, multiplat isn't that unlikely.

The very least both Switch and PS4 will probably get a bunch of spinoffs

>>375966402
>Leave persona to Odin the Ultimate Jobber
Man, if SMT wasn't doomed enough you have this now.

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>>375966402
it gon b gr8

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>>375978019
Thor drop nukes. Odin's not losing to his son

>>375978019
decent kek

I've never played SMT.

What's the best one on the 3DS?

>>375971531
Maybe but so far Persona was always on Sony (except 1) and P5 was confirmed exclusive while HD is not. Exclusivity wasn't mentioned once. Maybe they're still negotiating. Who knows.

SMT always ends up on the biggest platform. DS and 3DS also got bonuspoints for cheap production cost

>>375975616
Persona has no story, it's all about dating and anime waifu shit

>>375976379
>What I meant was in the story segments

Ryuji never

The team kept being obessessed over their popularity instead of carefully picking their targets

They retardedly went in to a dunegon in open public which is why fags like Akechi could capture them with evidence.

They kept discussing blatant shit about who they're gonna target next on their phones with open messaging and on phone calls.

Their second hideout was literally in some obvious area and they kept talking about it which is dumb with people like ryuji was there

When Ryuji suggested giving up their identity when they become famous not one person ridiculed him and they all actually took in consideration.

Had it not been for Futaba's mary sue'ing her way in the plot they would literally all be dead

>>375978342
Devil Survivor Overclocked

>>375968519
It's only okay for a game to be exclusive if it's on a Sony console. If you're not with Sony, you're against Sony. If you're against Sony, you're the enemy. If you're the enemy, your taste and opinions are wrong and you should leave.

All hail Sony.

>>375978342
DeSu or Apocalypse. Play IV first if you are going for Apocalypse

>>375968519
Nah. It's probably going to bomb so they're going to port it eventually

>>375978353
>P5 was confirmed exclusive
When?

>>375978342
Soul Hackers > DeSu > Apocalypse >>>>>>> IV > DeSu II

>>375978342
IV is a good starting point. Play Soul Hackers afterwards.

Radiant Historia is the only good Atlus game

>>375969006
>unironically trusting and posting VGChartz
I knew Sonybros were actually retarded, but holy shit.

Ay y'all faggots i'm playing nocturne and at the 118 floor of obelisk and these fucking sluts keep running away from fights wasting my SP

What do?

>>375976897
>goro is a complete fucking retard and like Shido is mustache twirling evil
>goro shows up, shouts some exposition, then dies
>ryuji is never shut ups about the PT's in public and constantly gets the group in trouble
>unlike in 3 where the cast has a entire month just focus on character development of the battle against Nyx, 5 has the cast get a 2 dialogue prep talk from Potter that makes them go completely 180 and ready to fight against Igor
>the cast barely interacts with each other and besides Futaba, never get any actual character development
>when Makoto joins the thieves, the plot demands every else be a idiot for her to have some sort of spotlight, yet all she does is repeat the plot to the player
>they always doubt the change of hearts despite being successful every single time. After Kaneshiro and tons of request you think they would learn
>group chats are just "let's hope x thing works out guys" iver and over again and never gave insight or actually worth paying attention to
>makoto's entire Slink

>>375974958
>Basic ass turn based rpg
>high-intensity
There's that Sony fanboy idiocy I know and love.

When was the last Sony SMT game? Why would people be upset SMT V would be Switch exclusive at this point? Hell aren't there two other SMT games being made Nintendo exclusive already?

>>375966402
So is he going to die again to THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP.

>>375978505
I think it was around January alongside Yakuza0.

Not sure if it was called exclusive at the reveal since that was years ago

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>>375978505
Look at this video. They confirmed it as soon as they announced it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKfaPgl8N8E

>>375974958

Because a turn based game needs high intensity hardware? The Switch is more than enough. SMT ain't Final fantasy.

>>375978790
Persona 5 mate.

>>375978790
>Why would people be upset SMT V would be Switch exclusive at this point

Because it will be the first proper budget one with 3d models

>>375978873
>persona
>SMT

>>375978943
Catherine

>>375978984
>catherine
>smt

>>375975631
>source: my ass

>>375978917

Switch would handle them just fine.

>>375966402
that trailer was 1080p/60ps

The Switch can't do that, hell the ps4 can only do that for last gen games.

It would be easier to tolerate (3)DS SMT Games if the spritework wasn't so terrible.
The designs are far too detailed for how tiny resolution they are.

Compare to Pokemon: Basic Designs that are immediately identifiable and have a 3rd of the screen for each Pokemon.
Demons look great in 3D, DDS still looks fantastic, Strange Journey is just an Eyesore.

>>375978342
Soul Hackers.
Apocalypse. (You need to play IV first though, unfortunately)

>>375979629
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe literally just came out.

>>375979629

Are you seriously using a trailer on a game that has just entered development as an indication on how it will run?

>>375971660
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WkBolFYH1Nc

I will never forgive them

>>375978505

>He wasnt here when nintendownies got btfo

That stream was cathartic as fuck, not just because it started with shitty spinoffs, but because they saved the best for last after an hour of blueballing.

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>>375974356
Leave Zurvan to me

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*deeps your journey*

>>375975967
>It wouldn't work in post-2 Persona because the wild card is related to the social sim elements and how the protagonist of each game has a different "persona" when he talks to a Slink character.
You want to sacrifice gameplay just because it fits thematically?
>major balance overhaul to work.
The newer persona's are too easy as well. The series is in need of a difficulty and balance overhaul anyway.

>>375980028
He's using the 1080p@60fps meme drones have been (falsely) using for WiiU games. We all know that it's about optimisation and other stuff

>>375966881
Jack
Pyro Jack
King Jack
Black Jack

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>>375980202
Leave Mastema to me

>>375980202
Maybe it won't be shit this time.
The flagship character is a cute girl so that's already a huge improvement over the first.

>>375980202
So, what alignment are you for?

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>>375980202

2deep4me

yfw they remove being able to change your alignment whenever you want from the SJ remake

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>>375980420
Probably a cop out route like Lucifer in Nocturne, or Neutral so it has 2 representatives like Law and Chaos (Mastema-Zelenin and Mem Aleph-Jimenez)

Also for her to get BLACKED by the ubernigger

Remove Doi and bring back the Devil Survivor guy at least.

Rest in Peace, Kaneko-sama.

>>375980908
>wanting anti gravitits
No

>>375980961
But he's doing a great job in Digimon Cyber Sluts.

>>375980908
>Remove Doi and bring back the Devil Survivor guy at least.
How about no? That art style is terrible.

>>375968579
Are you having a stroke?

>>375981009
1. No.
2. He doesn't do monster design.

>>375978520
DeSu 2 is great fuck you

>>375981130
not really desu

>>375966402
I'm getting a Switch soon. I hope that the new SMT is good, Persona 5 suggests great things from the company on modern platforms.

>>375980908
I agree, Doi is a terrible character Designer. Soejima or Kaneko should be the only ones allowed to design SMT Characters.

I love Yasuda but his Artstyle just doesn't work for this franchise and Cyber Sluts made me question whether it works for Videogames at all.

>>375981194
fuck you Carlos
And I would say that it really was. Completely different appeal type to 1, so it's not really comparable there, but it's an excellent game and I did enjoy it more than the 1st if you have to forcibly compare them

>>375981392
If Yasuda did the redraws of guest demon designs, Napaea would have literal balloon tits

>>375980908
Yasuda is great but it really doesn't suit the nature of the mainline series and he doesn't do monster designs.

I want to see a Himukai one.

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>>375981846
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>>375980961
fug, then just contract Araki instead for the character/demon designs.

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>>375981846

>>375977660
>I would take a near 10 year hiatus over a quality new game every few years

Nocturne and DDS were good, but the DS/3DS allowed them to keep putting out games of equal quality without spending a fuckload of time on updating the visuals.

I hope the Persona 5 graphics let them coast for another several years without another big hiatus like the late 90s.

>>375978436
>>375978520
>>375979653
So it seems the Apocalypse likers come out at night while the IV likers are on /v/ during the day, because people have been shitting on Apocalypse all day.

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>>375981736
What's this meme about Yasuda giving every character giant tits?
He doesn't.

>>375982308
Apocalypse objectively has better gameplay and more flawed writing (Divine Powers and Dagda are good, main party are horrible with few exceptions, final arc on either routes are shit)

SMT series is boring.

>>375982308
Apocalypse has the worst SMT cast of all time

>>375982403
It deals more with how he draws breasts than simply their size.

>>375982067
It's ok anon, I love Yasuda too. Araki I have no experience with since I don't read that.
>>375982126
I need more.

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>>375982572

>>375982778
This only heightens my desire.
I wish Himukai did more than just EO and the occasional celebratory collection/single piece.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6_RGKwdFi8

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>>375982921
He did.

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>>375982571
Nah, the anti grav tits thing is only for characters who are supposed to have super huge tits and the characters point that out.
It's an exception not a rule.

>>375983219
>old DS title from back in his loli hentai days
I mean from recent memory anon, and since EOV has been released in JP, we haven't heard much from him except for the cover of EMD2.

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>>375983478

He did some character designs for World of Final Fantasy.

>>375983872
Huh, never heard of it. The little wing bits on the helm and the armor structure are certainly his style, but it's difficult to recognize at first glance.

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>>375984686
Ah yes, that face and body type are very easily recognizable.
What is this anyway? Some Vita or mobile game?

>>375984853
Decent JRPG for PS4/Vita

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Thinking of picking up soul hackers, interested in thoughts on it.

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>>375968579
>the garbage called Persona

Hot opinion there, buddy.

>>375985143
I see.
Well I'm glad you proved me wrong, I hope I can see more of his art in games in the future, hopefully as the main artist.

>>375985253
A lot of people really like it but I honestly don't really get why.