Is this correct?

>>375957063
>house
>stable

>legion
>unstable

that is completely fucking incorrect

all of them are max idealism, lowest stability, for different reasons, which is what makes the political climate of new vegas an actual part of the fucking story and why it's so well done

Yes Man with the Wild Cards quests > House > NCR > Yes Man > Legion

>>375957193
House is impossible for anyone but the courier to overthrow, caesar will die of brain tumors and his next in line is a savage murder who unlike caesar doesn't inspire honor and glory but only fear. He would be disposed of fairly quickly, likely splitting the legion into camps struggling for supremecy, leaving the mighty legion but a region of slavers.

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>>375957193
>he thinks House is unstable
Because a robot army that is capable of pushing back two huge armies is clearly unfit for maintaining order

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>>375957193

>gay slavers that follow a cult of personality
>stable

If you chose anything but the NCR you belong in the bottom of the colorado river.

They're all unstable except whichever one Todd wants because it's his game now and new vegas will be retconned.

>>375957063
>And who do you prefer and why?
Yes Man Ending.

Simply because all the other endings/factions are about bringing the past and building it in the present. Yes Man ending is the only one really focused on building something new and moving forward.

>>375957841
>>375957868
>>375958067
trolled my dudes

>>375958184
t. NCuckR

>>375958184
Still unsure If House or NCR is the right choice t b h

>>375957841
>>375957868
fuck are you talking about? house himself says that he would not be able to sustain a full scale attack from either NCR or legion, at least pre securitron upgrades.

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>>375958310
>merely pretending
Well aren't you a fucking paragon of success

>>375957193
Legion is bad House.
Both factions are 100% dependant on their leader and bring prosperity and peace through force. House is nigh immortal, Caesar is nearly dead. The army of robots is stronger than the army of slavers.

Yes Man is obviously the correct ending. Everyone in that stupid desert is a fucking retard, the Courier is the only one who gets shit done.

>>375958184
This honestly. NCR isn't perfect but it is the safest bet for the future of the Mojave, especially if you help them clean up the Legion and House problems that are keeping them spread thin.

>Be Courier.
>All you have to do is move a pocket sized chip from A to point B.
>Get shot in the head and burried alive
>Encounter Yes Man
>"I am totally intelligent enough to run a nation"

Yes Man is mary sue tier shit. Siding with Bennt should have replaced its option

>>375958421
I thought we were talking about end-game, after the hoover dam battle.
Beforehand of course the NCR or Legion will be more stable

>>375958184

Agreed. There's no reason to believe House's claims, and Yes Man is out of the question since it's for Mary Sues that pissed off every relevant faction.

>>375958421
Yeah you're right I can't say Caesar will die of tumors in a Legion ending If I suggest the Securitytrons get a upgrade in the House ending. Even so: Caesar will die eventually regsrdless of ending, leaving the Legion to a bloodthirsty savage.

>>375958526
>a rotting stump of bureaucratic nonsense and dwindling supply lines that can't even protect what little they have back home
>"safest" bet
Yeah, no. Robot army >>>> murica cosplayers that get BTFO by raiders in fucking football gear armed with swords

>>375958770
Let's say your character isn't a highly idealistic goody two shoes, wouldn't being spoilt by house for the rest of your life sound swell?

>>375958770
Besides the fact that he hired you and has zero reason to lie to you? Hell, he even showed you his entire hand after giving him the chip.
House is the only option that will keep humanity's progress going

>>375957063
House, since its the best result for everyone.

The only people who actually suffer from House taking over are the Kings.

>>375959052
>Leaving the Mojave to a technocratic dictatorship run by an egotistical fossil of a man who can't let go of the past, let alone make reservations for the future
Sure thing bud.

>>375959264
Well that and the BoS but to be honest I really wish they'd kept that peaceful option with them in.

>Siding with the form of government that lead to nuclear Armageddon

Basically you have to be chaotic evil to side NCR

>>375959493

>armageddon was caused by old world policies

Yeah, it's not like a huge theme of Fallout is that war and conflict are inevitable aspects of humanity.

>>375957063
>legion
>not stable
>not idealism
holy shit man, stop listening to /v/ memes and actually talk to Caesar

>House wins
>Legion defeated, Caesar will die to his brain tumour
>NCR is humiliated at the dam, but the legion is defeated, can now focus on protecting themselves instead of trying to expand quickly to fight back the Legion

>>375959493
>Siding with the form of government that lead to nuclear Armageddon
Yeah siding with anyone in new vegas is dumb

>>375959360
>technocracy is bad
U wot m8
>dictatorship
Oh like the dynasty of Tandi of the NCR?
Everyone on the vegas strip seemed pretty happy and free to me. Name one area of life under his control that is worse than the NCR.
And he's made plenty of reservations for the future. He literally saved the strip and himself because of his foresight and planning. Had he gotten another day befor the war House wouldn't need the Courier at all.

>>375959251
>zero reason to lie to you
Other than getting you to do whatever the fuck he wants?

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>side with NCR
>absolutely end up with the same old world policies that lead to armageddon, while funneling as much caps to the brahim jews as possible
>side with House
>probably end up with the same old world, since he's modelled after the classic industrialists common in prewar america, while funneling as many caps to him as possible
>side with Legion
>rebuild humanity from the ground up, cast aside the old, broken, and failed ideologies and make humanity strong
You may not agree with their methods, but Legion are clearly the best hope for humanity

>>375960159
like everyone else?

>>375959765
Stable:
>>375958946
>>375958458
>>375958067

>>375958591
>tfw no mods allow me to bear Benny's child
Shit game, mods didn't make it better.

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>legion
>not idealistic
Dude's a fucking Romanboo

>>375960189
>A bunch of close homosexual murderers and thieves are the best hope for humanity
Maybe we deserve extinction.

>>375960189
>side with Legion
>rebuild humanity from the ground up, cast aside the old, broken, and failed ideologies and take on a even older also failed idealogy
FTFY

>>375960189
yes but their technology and society would be essentially be stuck in 100 AD

and lets not forget that their entire society is meant to be ran by a single dictator who WILL die eventually and be left to some successor

meanwhile, house was to improve society, make it grow and extend out of the continent and the world. he has the intelligence, the technology and the will to do it.

nothing house ever does lays hint to that he may be a dictator/mad/wrong

>>375959360
It wouldn't take much to put a bullet in him if he goes off the rails. Especially if the courier has the longevity provided by the wonders of Big Mountain.

>robot oppression is good

Sure it is

>>375960189
Fool. You merely delay the inevitable by setting us back to Roman ideologies. Just as the NCR is doomed to repeat history so too will the Legion, leading us back to the nuclear war. House is Plato's philosopher king, not the best but the only hope for humanity.

>>375960627
who are you refering to?

cant be NCR

cant be legion

cant be Yes man because the courier is leader

cant be house because house is a man

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House is the only serious hope the Fallout world has to stop being shitty and become full sci-fi.

how can I have fun in this game?
It just feel like a bland walking simulator+visual novel

>>375960848
>Launching from tribal sticks and stones to a space empire

Negative. As history has shown us- you need a strong conqueror to sweep through and tame a land before you can try and put down roots. Legion is the correct answer. Specifically God Emperor KAISER who uses house tech to become immortal

>>375958591
Yes Man is canon.

>>375960519
>nothing house ever does lays hint to that he may be a dictator/mad/wrong
except wiping out the BoS because of a disagreement
And letting the people who can't afford to enter Vegas starve at its gates because it makes the interior look even better by comparison
He treats people as tools to collect resources. He'll replace them with robots the moment it becomes more cost effective to do so

>>375961059
????

1. legion wouldnt touch technology for a LONG time

2. FNV caeser would be dead and AS HISTORY HAS SHOWN US the roman empire had far more bad emperors than good ones, house would live for ever.

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>>375961059
>Specifically God Emperor KAISER who uses house tech to become immortal
now we're talkin

>>375961214
he kills BoS because BoS are crazy fanatics who hate everyone unless they let them do what ever they want

if you let in hundreds of starving people into a "city" that is doing alright in a post apocalyptic wasteland, youre dooming more people to starvation, imagine if we just let every single person from africa and middle east into europe in a few weeks, do you know what this would do to the economy and society of europe? stop the boats

nowhere it says he would just replace people with robots? house actively tried to save lase vegas because he knew the bombs were coming, he knew society had to be saved.

>>375961059
>king of non degenerates and anti progress society kept alive by the science he preaches against

>>375961538
Kinda like the mediical robot he has in his tent :^)

>>375961538
Did you forget the autodoc in his tent? Caesar is above the laws of the Legion

>>375961059
Caesar doesn't even come close to Reinhard, if that's what you're hinting at.
House isn't similar either, but for practical purposes he could achieve the best goal, realistically.

Sooner or later the Legion would just cause history to repeat itself, you'd end up with misguided federal republics who would commit the same mistakes in larger scale.

All of them are *sniff* ideological trash

>>375961693
I'n not referring to any particular ruler. Literally every major nation that exists today, exists because it purged the problems from its territory before unifying its culture. Every. Single. One.

>>375961742
get out of here /lit/

>>375961656
>>375961692
so you're saying caesar is a man who lacks integrity to follow his own laws

>>375961847
The Glorious god king needs not be questioned by profligates. He has built a sprawling empire by his will and will conqueror the entire world in due time.

>>375961065
This.
>every single DLC is basically written around the idea of letting go of old world values because they're shit tier and led to the world blowing up
>every single faction is built on old ideas, or led by a pre war survivor
>lonesome road even goes as far as to depict the courier in the yes man duster in the cutscene no matter what your reputation is and what duster you actually get
Non independantbros need to leave.

>>375961847
The Legion belongs to him, so he can impose any laws he likes
Just like the brahmin barons can do what they like in NCR, and House can in Vegas

>"b-but caeser could just use the house technology"

im pretty sure house would rather the technology to be destroyed than it be taken by some peon in charge an army of savages

>"w-well they can just rebuild it and remake it from the tech in the lucky 38"

oh shit sorry, i forgot an illiterate society where technology is banned can re-build a state of the art life support system built pre-war by one of the most wealthy and smart man on the planet

The Courier is a literal God in the wasteland and is the only one that can truly affect change. Yes Man is the best way to go.

yes-man is fan fiction tier

>yes man is the best and canon option because my courior is amazing and would make the wasteland a heaven of society

>>375961810
The cause of the Fallout world is nations overstepping their boundaries and power-tripping, though. The Legion is precisely the spark for this idea. A massive centralized government stomping out everybody else.

Liberty is a superior way.

Legionfags are the worst, they're all fucking /pol/tard alt right memers who think authoritarianism is a good thing

>>375957063
house is much more idealist than the NCR

>>375962356
not even a society based on advancing humanity and technology

LITERALLY A SOCIETY BASED AND MODELED ON A SYSTEM 2000 YEARS AGO

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>>375957063
>NCR or Legion
They'll die out in time, NCR might be resilient but the wasteland won't stand for it's shit if the Legion won't stop them. And the Legion's biggest enemy is time, when Caesar dies his ideals will too.

House is just some self-serving Vegas owner that only cares about himself. He doesn't care about the rest of civilization and he's more hell bent on leaving the planet than staying on it. Plus, why the hell should you trust him anyway? For all you know you're just his shoe shining boy.

Yes Man ending is top tier Mary Sue and isn't perfect either but it's my preferred ending because I don't do full play throughs with characters that are canon disabled, that's stupid.

Funnest outcome would be NCR, no doubt. Best questline and fun faction to play along with.

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as much as we are all arguing about which faction is the best

FNV actually has this

meanwhile 3 is, go into the water purifier and die

>>375962452
It's a shame that the legion is so unfinished in New Vegas, I feel like there was a chance to make them actually interesting and nuanced but it just comes off like they're a bunch of faggot Roman cosplayer luddites who hate women and worship and old fag with cancer

>>375962613
Yeah F:NV is better than 3. Way to point out the obvious.

>>375962014
These are different situations.
In Caesar's case it's quite simply coercion.
NCR is just plain corrupt.
House, however, is the literal owner of the Strip. His relation with the tribes is a straight up business agreement.

>>375962208
Thats up for debate really. You're never going to magic up a government that doesn't do such things. As for liberty? That comes with progress and you will see no progress while fighting to survive on a daily basis. The USA started out as a hyper race slaver empire and look at it now. The culture of the legion is not locked into place

>>375962812
just saying how its hilarious that 7 years on people are still talking about the faction choices of FNV, but 3 has fucking nothing

one simple way to judge something, a piece art, a film, tv show, game is after youre done with it, if it makes you discuss/argue about a theme/meaning/ideology on some form of intellectual level, its doing something right.

>>375962613
>>375963040
Don't even mention 4 either

> ncr has more ideals than house

top fucking kek

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>>375963092
>BoS are the only remotely interesting faction
>bethesda were planning on letting the player kill maxson and take over because of his anti-synth views, but only didn't because it was too much work to stop the BoS troops from complaining about synths afterwards
listening to the high-ups in bethesda speak is a fucking riot because they're so obviously incompetent

>>375962967
>You're never going to magic up a government that doesn't do such things.
So don't magic up a government.

>As for liberty? That comes with progress and you will see no progress while fighting to survive on a daily basis.
You won't see any progress with the Legion either. At best you'll see a ridiculously roundabout way of doing what House could do much more efficiently, and without coercion.

Seriously, you can't do better than a guy who was so Batman-tier prepared and so redpilled on the cancer of modern governments, he foresaw the apocalypse and actually protected most of his property, along with keeping himself alive.

Caesar doesn't really understand the society he's made. He claims to have modeled it on Roman values but it's much, much more reminiscent of the Mongolians. The legion is a confederation of nomadic steppe tribes under a supreme central authority that subsists on plunder and preaches self-sufficiency, meritocracy, and discipline. It's also an opportunistic slave empire that exists to destroy human life above all else and whose only contribution to the enrichment of the human condition is the empty space it leaves when it inevitably collapses for lack of loot to steal from actually productive societies.

>>375963401
I can't wait for TES VI to have a part of its central plot be about thinly veiled racism too.

I'm half expecting muh opressed Redguards without concern for how they acted towards the Empire.

>>375961519
>BoS are crazy fanatics who hate everyone unless they let them do what ever they want

The Mojave group has felt the sting of hubris so badly that they're willing to leave their fate in the hands of some courier that stumbles in on their base or shows up with one of their junior members.

On the flip side, House refuses to let his questline continue until you blow up the entirety of those people because he ironically believes they are more like him then he even realizes.

I don't like the NCR but it is the inevitable conclusion of the future. Once divided, the land must once again unite.

>>375958591
Vegas clearly doesn't reach its full potential under Yes Man, but he keeps it from being reduced to mindless slaughter.

Law is upheld, even if all Vegas will ever be is just a giant place to toss money away. House turns it into a nation, the NCR uses it as just another city for the Republic + Power from the Dam, and the Legion only want to raze it to its foundations, then move onto the rest of the west.

>He doesn't use the Boomers as his human army
>He doesn't side with Yes Man