Streamers are cancer

>>375934262
>You are not an entertainer.
Clearly they are when people watch it for entertainment

>>375934262
i mean i agree with you but these talentless fucks get money out of fucking nowhere constantly for doing absolutely nothing special
i wanted to check the gameplay for prey so i went into a stream today and not even 10 seconds in this airhead loser gets a 1k donation

>>375934326
Car crashes are entertaining too. Are cars entertainers?

>>375934262
Why do you care?

>>375934498
So who is your favourite serial killer?

>>375934498
Jesus Christ that's not even in the same realm of this scope

You're fucking retarded

>>375934661
your broad definition of entertainment is what is retarded. Putting a camera in front of your face and doing nothing is not entertainment

>>375934262
And you sound incredibly envious of people who literally make an ass of themselves for entertainment.

It's not hard. You can do it if you try.

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>>375934262
>I am really really REALLY angry at someone's career choices who lives 5,000 miles away grrrr

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>>375934262
I'm 31 and I'm proud to say I never watched someone else playing video games
In recent times I only watched small segments of walkthrough - no more than a couple of times last year and that's it.

Above average streamers make 5-20k+ dollars a month from donations. That's not so bad when you consider they'd be flipping burgers or washing cars otherwise. And they dedicate 6-12 hours to it most days so it's not much different from a job or a part time job at least. It's pretty stupid to argue it's a casual hobby to these people.

>>375934801
>>375934807

>y-youre just jealous I live with my parents at 32 and my income relies on whoring out to children online for money!!!

>>375934498
>you will never be this retarded
Feels good desu

>>375934772
It most certainly is. Especially since other people are willing to pay to see it. What the fuck is wrong with you? You don't get to decide what other people will be entertained by.

>>375934902
I don't stream. Just making assumptions by how assblasted you are over people doing a thing that does not affect you in any way whatsoever.

>>375934262
Good job posting the only streamer without any cancer.

>You do an activity for a financial compensation but you're not a professional.
>You entertain an audience but you're not an entertainer.
3 sentences in and you're already fucking stupid.

>>375934262
>TL;DR I'm not funny/skilled/attractive enough to make money by playing video games so I'm going to insult people who are doing better than me out of jealousy

Friendly reminder that anyone who complains about retards wasting their money as they see fit and others making a living off their retardation are filthy bitter commies and they probably smell too
Is there anything more pathetic than crying over somebody else making a lot of money with little effort while you could be doing the same if you just applied yourself and stopped being an awkward sperg, all you need to do is play video games and be moderately entertaining, as in keep talking nonstop about fucking nothing and get "triggered" easily

>>375934902
wew lad, streamers who can make a living are so rare i doubt more than 3 post on /v/, most streamers get few views and do it as a hobby

Anyways you're still REALLY angry at other people's career choices, a sign of autism

>>375934945
There is a basic requirement for a medium to be considered entertainment. Yes, what they do may be considered entertainment for some,but in the realms of professional industry and the standards real entertainers must adhere to, these are literally just talentless losers e-begging to children online.

Don't be so obtuse over your definition.

>>375934262

Emily only faked cancer once

>>375935232
YAHOOOOO

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>>375934262
Streaming is a hobby that a select few have made into a career by luck.

That shouldn't invalidate it, there is a lot of money in it.

>>375935052
>facecam
>not cancer
Lol ok

>>375934262
>The wagecuck fallacy

lel, I can taste the bitterness leaking from my moniter.

hobby streamers are fine. though unpopular

>>375935157
>funny/skilled/attractive

You're right, DSP and Boogie really are funny, skilled and attractive people.

>>375935229
Street performers are entertainers and they're literally begging for change from random bypassers
You're a fucking moron and your argument is based on nothing but an arbitrary autistic requirements you've made up in your mind

>>375935229
>There is a basic requirement for a medium to be considered entertainment.
There isn't.
>the realms of professional industry and the standards real entertainers must adhere to
Such as?
>Don't be so obtuse
His definition is the exact opposite of obtuse, because it's very broad.

>>375934772
Use your fucking brain you moron it's a hyperbole. Not my problem you get off to car crashes

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you're just jelly you can't get views by taking off your clothes

>>375934262
Stop pretending shitposting is anything more than a casual hobby.

It is not a profession. You are not an entertainer. You are a loser with no applicable skillset in the modern world to get a real job, so you sit in your basement, e-begging on an autonomous Malaysian back-rub board because nobody will hire you. Instead of growing up and entering the real world, you live your manchild fantasy by not playing games all day and taking (You)'s from dumb teenage girls(male) and literal children.

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>>375935687
post benis

>>375935495
>There isn't.
Yes there is.
>Such as?
If you want to be a TV comedian, you must ork on your performance. Routines, your style, the jokes you tell, memorising scenarios and stories to tell, to practice engagement and ad-hoc ques, regulation from broadcasters, time keeping etc the list goes on.

Professionalism is the dividing line between what is, and is not, entertainment worthy of financial support. These streamers rely on gullible children online to give them their pocket money, they take advantage of mallable minds and make a living off of it.


One is a respectable profession that requires effort and skill, the other is just bottom of the barrel of socety losers e-begging.

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>>375934262
>make money
>not a profession

???

If they can get a consistent source of income out of it, then it doesn't matter what you think. It's a job whether you like it or not. I don't even care for "streamer culture" and I would never become a Twitch subscriber in a million years, but you're retarded.

>>375934262
it's a viable career.


op is just a faggot as always.

>>375934262
Don't know which is worse Op.

The streamers or the people who actually give these fuckers their hard earned money to keep streaming.

Both can kts

>>375935924
It's a job the same way panhandling is job. The primary difference is that they're mostly targeting children and teenagers with their begging.

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>>375935687
>this looks like a guy

>>375935893
>entertainment worthy of financial support
Wew, I'm convinced this is bait now

>>375936210
traps aren't gay.

>>375936153
If panhandlers can get a consistent income out of it, sure it is. We could spend all day passing moral judgement on how people make their money.

free market you communist scum

>>375934262
I agree with you OP. Streaming is one of the most cancerous things going on in pop culture, and it shows no signs of getting better. It is a way for sad, lonely faggots to "connect" with people because they can't do it in real life, and as you said, it's a way for total losers to make money by doing basically nothing. Moreover, it's ruining gaming. I have a buddy who use to be a cool guy and we'd play games together and talk about them etc., and now he literally doesn't buy or play games anymore because he says "there's no point, I can just watch somebody else play it". It's like saying you never need to have sex because you can just watch porn. It's fucking pathetic and it's taking the only sense of adventure and magic that games have and retarding it.

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>>375935687
WHOOOOO?

>>375935893
>entertainment worthy of financial support
So now you are moving the goalpost.
You are no longer trying to prove that streamers are profesionals or that streamers entertain people. You're trying to prove streamers don't deserve their revenue.
Good to see you don't actually have tangible arguments.

>>375935687
that's a dude.

Real women don't look that cute anymore

I prefer to call streaming Rent-A-Friend

And I do agree with you, it's a pretty sad thing to see blowing up and I feel nothing but pity for the souls streaming and, even more so, those who watch them. Doubly so if it's a child trying desperately to find a buddy or figure to look up to.

The whole thing is weird. Platonic friendship prostitution. I don't quite understand how people can give the money they've earned to these streamers but eh, it ain't my cash.

>>375936424
it's not my fault you are too functionally retarded to decipher the premise of my original post. Read it again you spastic.

>Stop pretending streaming is anything more than a casual hobby.

>>375934262
You're just mad they're making money playing games who cares how much money you get. The world doesn't give the highest pay to the most effort intensive jobs

Gitgud

>>375936424
*are not profesionals
*do not entertain people

>>375934262
OMFS* HOW CAN PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS OR TASTE THAN I, THE SPERG LORD OF ATLANTIS, HAVE?

REEEEEEEEEE

FUCKING NORMIES

*OMFS MEANS OH MY FUCKING SAGAN, I DON'T USED OMFG BECAUSE GOD, CLEARLY, DOESN'T EXIST. IF HE DID WHY WOULD HE PUNISH ME? MOOOOM WHERE ARE MY TENDIES?

>>375936556
Clearly people are entertained by it which is why they keep watching it which is why they keep throwing money at it

Saying they aren't being entertained is equivalent to saying they're watching something they don't like

>>375934262
Why do you want people to be unhappy anon, are you

>dead inside

>>375934262
poor baby can't stream

>>375936549
Streaming is not necessarily casual because you some spend 10+ hours a day doing it.
Streaming is not necessarily a hobby because you can be paid for streaming.
Streaming is a profession because you can get a salary for it.
Streaming is entertainment because it's made to entertain people, and it works.

>>375934498
wew lad

>>375936631
I'm >>375936556 and >>375936424
I was correcting myself.

Streamers should be compared to radio hosts, not tv people.

>>375936721
Having sex is not necessarily casual because you some spend 10+ hours a day doing it.
Having sex is not necessarily a hobby because you can be paid for having sex
Having sex is a profession because you can get a salary for it.
Having sex is entertainment because it's made to pleasure people, and it works.


Getting real tired of the lolbertarians on this board with such a broad and undefinable definition to everything, just screeching muh market magic

>>375936549
It is clearly something more than a casual hobby if people can make a living streaming full time
It's not up to your discretion to decide what "deserves to be financially supported" if it's not your money that's being spent, you dink
99% of TV is pure dogshit in my opinion yet somebody's still paying to make it all
I don't see a problem with it though, I'm not the one paying after all
What's your excuse though? I'm assuming you're not donating to ecelebs

>>375936930
Are you dense?

>>375936930
Porn is an industry though, prostitutes are professionals though
What are you even getting at?

>>375936930
It's called prostitution, champ. There's a reason it's called the oldest profession in the world.

>>375936930
Yea it'd called strippers and prostitution

>>375936210
For once it's not tho

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>>375936930
Porn actor is a career, anon.

>>375936930
>Having sex is not necessarily casual because you some spend 10+ hours a day doing it.
No one had the endurance for that, your analogy doesn't work.
>Having sex is not necessarily a hobby because you can be paid for having sex
Yup. It's called prostitution.
>Having sex is a profession because you can get a salary for it.
Yup. I'll admit I should have written "can be" instead of "is".
>Having sex is entertainment because it's made to pleasure people, and it works.
Yup. It's called pornography.

>>375935330
>the joke
>you

>>375937050
>>375937065
>>375937080
Nobody calls prostitution a profession other than retard lolberts and Americans.

>>375934262
Well, they entertain people, and they make bank, so I'd consider it more than a hobby.

Do you work manual labor by any chance? I find that almost every time someone gets assmad about streaming, it's a manual labor drone who hates his job.

>>375936556
call it what ever you like, people are entertained
they get payed to to do a thing, therefor they are a professional.

the modern world has global banks run by corporations to build their own economy on personalities.

literally only the shiteaters beg. those with self respect are given money because most people [/spolier] can smell bullshit.

again youre the one that's delusional and disrespect these people so much that you call an entire medium and anyone who enjoys an idiot

>>375937196
Except they do...and have for a very long time.

You're either sheltered or a troll

>>375937196
>Nobody calls prostitution a profession
Oh the fucking gall you have to claim other people are basement dwellers.

>>375937196
Are you proud of your ignorance?

>>375937196
>>375936930
>>375934262

BAIT FOR THE BAIT GOD

>>375934498
This is the dumbest example possible because there are multiple very famous and successful forms of entertainment involving cars.

>>375937256
Please read >>375936796

I'm staying on this thread to watch how OP get's BTFO'D over and over again by other, more sensible anons. Pretty entertaining desu, albeit it does not seem worthy of financial support, kek.

>>375934498
>Are cars entertainment

First off, yes. Second, you're actually retarded.

>>375934262
"Streamers" are cancer without exception, for sure. Streaming isn't always bad though. I enjoy watching a stream every once in awhile. Good background when I'm working or doing something boring. For vidya streamers in particular I can't stand most of them but there are a few people I like that do it. The draw is the comfy atmosphere and not watching someone play CSGO or some shit. Listening to the banter is what I find amusing.

>>375937192
Literally how
Explain how the supposed "joke" related to facecams

>>375937365
>albeit it does not seem worthy of financial support
Sensible chuckle.

>>375937365
These anons are generation Z teens who have come to accept streaming as a career choice. None of this shit would have been said on this board 10 years ago.

>>375937506
Because streaming wasn't really as thnig ten years ago, silly.

>>375937506
You couldn't effectively stream 10 years ago

People recorded their games and put their footage and commentary on youtube which is how they made money

>>375937639
ACKSHUALLY Justin.tv was launched 10 years ago, so it was.

>streaming
>person puts up an act to be entertaining to viewers

>reality tv
>person puts up an act to be entertaining to viewers

>>375935687
yooooo

>>375937835
what if i literally be myself on stream? what if i just play vidya and talk about game mechanics and design? WHAT THEN ANON?

>>375937506
These anons are people who don't get buttblasted about retard kids donating to their favorite twitch memers, who fucking cares
I spent my pocket money on goddamn cardboard pictures of pokemons and shit
Explain to me how that was a fiscally sensible investment

>>375937752
Comparing a new, pioneering service to the mainstream culture it has become is pretty silly still. I get your point though.

>>375937993
Then I'm sure your 5 niche viewers will be satisfied

Streaming as a profession is almost as pathetic as the people who actually watch them

>>375937196
>Nobody calls prostitution a profession other than retard lolberts and Americans.
KEK

>>375937506
"This guy makes some money streaming games"
"Oh wow, cool, I wish I had thought of that"
"*AUTISTIC SCREECHING* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP IT"

>>375938162
m-my sense of humour will carry me to streaming success one day

>>375937431
That streamer faked actual cancer
That's the joke

Sounds like you're jealous you can't make a living playing video games

>>375935687
There's a difference between Twitch streaming and camwhoring Anon

>>375938435
Yeah then it did go over my head because I didn't know the story, but it has 0 relation to my post pointing out that facecams are cancer since it wasn't particularly about the streamer or the joke to begin with which makes replying to me about the joke going over my head pretty pointless

I have to admit, while I'm busting my ass at my minimum wage restaurant job, I'm wondering how I can exploit lonely nerds on the internet and become a professional streamer.

>>375937506
Why do you care so much anyway? Did a streamer take your job?

All you need to know is that streamers pay taxes (they're supposed to if they don't want to get buttfucked down the line) and they're not being paid with taxpayer dollars directly.

>people pay cash money yo even be able to listen to a shitty comedian
>This is ok
>People can donate money if they want to somebody streaming whatever
>This is NOT ok

What does that mean?

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>stream myself just doing embroidery
>people help pay for my college
My gofundme wasn't completely supported but it worked. People will find entertainment in anything and getting mad over that is maximum autism.

>>375938750
stop trying so hard

>>375939059

Streamers are like psychological manipulation though, they have loud dings and bells and whistles when someone subscribes, or follows, or donates money...they sing songs, they make you feel like you're in a secret club or something. It's all very cultish, or more accurately, cult of personality-ish. They exploit lonely nerds into making them feel like they have friends and it's really sad.

Definitely not the same

>>375939218
Jesus dude, that's weak

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>>375939154
>Being a nigger

>>375939254
you are way to invested in this stupid topic

>>375938251
This. Exactly what I think.

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>>375939280
No.

>>375934498

Do you get off on pretending to be retarded? What's the point?

>>375939223
That's basically marketing you stupid fuck, comedians also have it. Jesus how do you idiots manage to live in the real world?

>>375939348
Lol ok

>>375934498
Watch out for those edges buddy.

>>375934262

I watch people regularly play things like Arma's Battle Royale, or the rare PUBG game, or some sort of grand strat I don't have the autism enough to get into.

I am not ashamed of this.

Streamers are a form of entertainment, it just so happens Twitch.TV & Beam facilitate the ability of people to reward entertainers of all types.

Deal with it nigger. It isn't going away any time soon, no matter how many autistic threads you make with incoherent screeching.

It's funny how in the past couple years these kind of threads went from 90% negative views on streaming to where we are today when most people defend it.

Stream watchers are losers even by bitter /v/irgin standards.

>>375939441
>Jesus how do you idiots manage to live in the real world?
>implying they ever leave their room
>implying their dead end job (if any) requires personal interaction

>>375934262
Begging children for money is the height of degeneracy. "Professional" streamers should not be tolerated.

>>375939154
LONDON

>>375934807
its the supermarket sneakers that always makes these images for me

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>>375934498

>>375939648
Teenagers and young 20-somethings are angry and hormonal at trivial things, can sperg out and hate on things that don't really matter or effect them

Then you grow up, mellow out, and stop caring about the fact some dude is streaming to an audience of other randoms somewhere that doesn't effect you.

As you age you recognize the need to focus your dislike only on things that effect you or the world as a whole negatively

>>375935687
>1 of 9.webm
You know what must be done, anon.

>no applicable skillset in the modern world to get a real job
That's true of like 90% of people, though. Automation and outsourcing have taken everything away aside from stuff that only geniuses can do.

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>>375940078
>doesn't effect you

It does though because it normalizes terrible behaviour and promotes the idea that being a 30 year old uneducated loser that streams video games is acceptable. Western civilization is in decline because this weak beta behaviour is now the norm. At the height of western dominance these weak beta manlets would have been shunned.

>>375940572
>muh e-degeneracy

>>375940572
No, Western civilization is in decline because the people at the top got greedy and stopped caring about their fellow people.

>>375940716
The people at the top are entirely justified because they see that the population consists of pathetic faggots that enjoy watching other idiots play video games. They're so pathetic that they won't even play the games themselves out of their fear of failure and crippling loneliness. This is the generation that complains about PTSD from playing 1v1 Starcraft and they deserve all the abuse they get.

>>375934498
/v/ ladies and gentlemen

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>>375941282
Damn, son.

>>37593426
jerma985 is pretty comfy

>>375934262
How is taking money from dumb teenage girls and literal children different here than in the mobile game industry or shitty teen mall stores?

>>375934262
>streamers are cancer
>oh I know! I should inject this cancer in /v/ by making a thread about it!

>>375940572
>Streamer without his fun job would work as some car mechanic in his small town in bumfuck Wisconsin, contributing almost nothing to anyone outside his neighbourhood area

>Streamer instead frees up that job for someone else, makes entertainment for thousands of people to watch, handful of them out of hundreds of millions of people are able to make enough money for it to be a job and not just an afternoon hobby

>This sort of content merely replaces TV for millennial and gen z

Hmm yes, a major contributor to the decline of civilisation! If only they could be intellectual like 80's kids who spent all afternoon watching cartoons instead. And of course streaming isn't a massive thing in the East as well, I'm sure the PRC and Korea are nearing collapse from their streaming craze too

>>375941536
It's new and scary to normies over 35, like radio was in the 30's

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>>375934262
>ask my 14-year-old cousin what he's interested in doing after highschool
>he says he wants to have a career as a streamer

Fuck all generations born after me.

>>375941282
Could you be a bigger cocksucker?

>>375942368
Go back to donating to video game streamers you pathetic faggot.

>>375939154
they were hoping you would start masturbating halfway through

>>375942423
I'll just come over here and donate this dick to your mother.

*unzips pants*

>>375940572
>Destiny, the alt right slayer

Ah I see where this streamer tirade is coming from.

Don't worry, someday someone from /pol/ will best him.

https://livestreamfails.com/post/2063

>>375942423
We don't, we just don't have autism so we don't care if some some random few guys make money off of their hobby like this.

>>375940572
People across the world are neets living on actual fucking welfare though and this isn't a new thing either, you're full of shit

>>375940572
So, I presume /pol/ is still salty about that guy?

>>375942810
Yeah that's what's especially funny. There's hundreds of billions spent on an epidemic of people on welfare who sit around watching TV all day and doing meth and heroin, and this autist gets mad at a few chill guys who actually make money (not government welfare) through a hobby

>>375934262
Don't be mad LobosJr makes more money than you

They make money while playing games; you make no money and still play games. You're inferior.

>>375940572
>Western civilization is in decline because this weak beta behaviour is now the norm
Bitching about how someone else makes money sounds pretty beta to me.
Aren't you fags the ones who glorify free markets and shit? This is what you get, they offer a service and people pay for it, totally legit.

>>375934875

What a bizarre thing to be proud of. You must not have many things to be proud of generally.

>>375936534
Not everyone is a normie with an infinite supply of disposable real life friends like you.

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>tfw swatting streamers and getting away with it
It's like the most intense drug ever. Fuck streamers, those faggy tumblrite shits..

>>375934498
should have gone with a food analogy and make you look less like a complete and utter retard

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>>375934262
Well they get money for it. I think anyone with half a brain would try and see how they can get the most money with the least effort. Yea, we get that you're a bitter wageslave, but we get paid out the ass for just playing videogames all day.

>>375940572
It does though because it normalizes terrible behaviour and promotes the idea that being a 30 year old uneducated loser that sings songs is acceptable. Western civilization is in decline because this weak beta behaviour is now the norm. At the height of western dominance these weak beta manlets would have been shunned.

It does though because it normalizes terrible behaviour and promotes the idea that being a 30 year old uneducated loser that performs comedy is acceptable. Western civilization is in decline because this weak beta behaviour is now the norm. At the height of western dominance these weak beta manlets would have been shunned.

It does though because it normalizes terrible behaviour and promotes the idea that being a 30 year old uneducated loser that talks to celebirties is acceptable. Western civilization is in decline because this weak beta behaviour is now the norm. At the height of western dominance these weak beta manlets would have been shunned.

It does though because it normalizes terrible behaviour and promotes the idea that being a 30 year old uneducated loser that records movies is acceptable. Western civilization is in decline because this weak beta behaviour is now the norm. At the height of western dominance these weak beta manlets would have been shunned.

It does though because it normalizes terrible behaviour and promotes the idea that being a 30 year old uneducated loser that plays sports is acceptable. Western civilization is in decline because this weak beta behaviour is now the norm. At the height of western dominance these weak beta manlets would have been shunned.

It does though because it normalizes terrible behaviour and promotes the idea that being a 30 year old uneducated loser that hosts gameshows is acceptable. Western civilization is in decline because this weak beta behaviour is now the norm. At the height of western dominance these weak beta manlets would have been shunned.

>>375934262
Jelly af

So?
If people are willing to pay me for it, why shouldn't I take advantage?

I used to think panhandlers were stupid faggots, but I realized they often make ~$100 a day. every single day. they literally make more than I do working 8 hour days every day, by sitting on their ass with a cardboard sign, begging.

I started streaming, like you saiad, just as a hobby, but people started donating to me because of it, so I started rewarding them for it, they're paying me cause they enjoy watching me play shit, so I buy new shit to play. And hell, since i'm not partnered with twitch, I don't run ads either.

>>375934890
5k a month isn't bad?
for PLAYING A VIDEO GAME, which is something i've been doing as a hobby since 1986 and NOT getting 1 cent?

yeah, i'd want that money too, fuck off!

>>375942474
Christ

I'm going to give ice Poseidon $50 today

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I find the autistic screeching of wagecucks so strange, they're vividly upset that these guys are not in the Real Job(tm) market

But... that would actually be beneficial? If you have a Real Job and some streamer decides to drop out of the market and play vidya for donations all day, that's less competition. One less guy who can take your job or promotion from you

Fuck, I mean I'd love it if 10% of my generation gave up on trying to get good jobs and did dumb shit for pocket money, it would mean so many job openings and shortages

>>375938917
yes

he took my VIEWERS away, therefore, my livelihood. he took my job away.