What did we learn from the Wii U scam?

>>375918621
Good games don't sell consoles.

>>375919040
>Wii U
>good games
That's a funny joke my man

>>375919078
Man, I've done this dance so many times I don't even care anymore.

Yeah, it had good games, fight me.

>>375919040
This. Wii U is still the best last gen console, i.e. it's the best console between PS4, XBone and Wii U.

>>375919157
When Hyrule Warriors is considered a top 10 game for the system then you know the library is trash.
>>375919168
Its not any better than the others.

>>375918621
If switch sales are anything to go by, nothing

>>375919168
PS4 is the best.

>>375919206
>Its not any better than the others.

It is infinitely better. I own both a Wii U and a PS4. I hardly use the latter.

>>375919445
Same here, I use the PS4 more
Funny how anecdotes work huh

>>375919223
nintendofags think the current switch sales will stay the way they are. little do they know that casuals don't know the switch exists and that the sales wil decline badeventually

>>375919206
Uh, not necesairly?

There are enough games to easily not include Hyrule Warriors even in top 15 games.

>>375919496
Then you simply have bad taste and no friends. *shrugs*

>>375919545
>There are enough games to easily not include Hyrule Warriors even in top 15 games.
Of just exclusives? No there's not enough games for that.

>>375918621

Never trust a nip

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>>375919078
This is my own personal chart, but I think it shows well enough that the WiiU had plenty of decent to great games.

>>375919561
Thats funny because I play on PS4 with my friends unlike Nintendo who doesn't allow online co-op

>>375919648
>online co-op

lol, get over your """social anxiety""" already

>>375919645
What do all these lines and shit mean?
And are you seriously considering Color Splash a "Great game"?

>>375919694
You sound like a huge faggot anon.

>>375919574
Not in particular order.

1.Breath of the Wild
2.Bayonetta 2
3.Xenoblade Chronicles X
4.Wonderful 101
5.Super Smash Bros.
6.Pikmin 3
7.New Super Mario bros U (+ Luigi addon)
8. Captain Toad
9. Super Mario Maker
10. Splatoon
11. Mario Kart 8
12. Tokyo Mirage Sessions
13. Yoshi's Woolly World
14. Donkey Kong
15. Monster Hunter 3

>>375919858
Breath of the Wild and Woolly World aren't exclusive, they're on Switch and 3DS

>>375919710
red = shit
purple = okay
green = good
black = not interested

>>375919645
>hyrule warriors
>starfox zero
>nintendo land
>wii party
>sonic & mario olympic winter games
>sonic & mario rio 2016 games
>epic mickey: the power of 2
>scribblenauts unlimited
>ass creed iii

it's your list and all, but those games are questionable.

>>375919858
>Breath of the Wild
>Super Mario Maker
>Yoshi's Woolly World

>exclusive

>>375919908
The fuck kind of logic is that?

Then I guess Persona 5 isn't an exclusive to PS4.

>>375919913
>star fox zero
>okay
>not shit
I immediately do not trust your opinion.
>>375919963
Yes, that is correct. Do you even browse /v/?

>>375918621
>What did we learn from the Wii U scam?
That Nintendo can do it twice.

>>375919978
Yeah, so it's (you)

>>375919645
Man.. looking at this image the WiiU was such a disappointment.

>>375919983
It just proves advertising to normies is everything.

>same mentally ill shitposter posting the same threads over and over again, day after day

unbelievably sad

>>375920147
why can't /v/ just admit the Wii U and its games are trash like it does for the xbox and playstation?

>>375919978
I don't care for your opinion on my opinion. The chart simply shows the games available for the system. It's up to you to decide whether you like the games or not.

>>375920230
>why can't everyone think what I think???

>>375920260
Just saying dude, if those are the games you're trying to push you're not going to convince many people

>>375920230
Because it was a decent system.

>>375918621
>every single game available for free with little effort and zero chance of getting caught
>scam

>>375920303
Well, looks like he's going to live with that fact while playing games he likes, I guess.

True sorrow.

>>375920316
Worst Nintendo system ever (except the virtual boy)

>>375920230
It is by far the best system of previous generation with the best games. And your incredibly retarded threads won't change that. How stupid are you?

>>375920303
I'm not trying to convince anyone with Star Fox Zero. It's beyond flawed, but I like flight action games and found enough enjoyment in it to consider it okay.

>>375920470
>It is by far the best system of previous generation
When you consider games like Hyrule Warriors and Star Fox Zero good this isn't really impressive to anyone who's not a delusional drone

>>375920453
I prefer it over the Wii and the N64 though. To me, it's about the level of the GameCube. Of course it's worse than the NES and SNES but most non-Sega systems are.

>>375920345
>>every single game available for free with little effort and zero chance of getting caught
That didn't happen until the very tail end of its life and at that point the only new games were garbage ones like Color Splash

Don't buy Nintendo products.

>>375920635
Fucking no one says Star Fox Zero is good retard.

Hyrule Warriors is not an exclusive.

>>375920707
What is it with you and your crusade against Color Splash? Did the game rape your mother?

>>375920663
It absolutely does not have a better library than N64 or Wii.

>>375919040
First post best post, only console with games dont sell fuck the whole world tryina get a rape case the opression olympics.

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Only thing it had going for it was that it had Monster Hunter 3U and to this day the only reason I owned one

If they don't release MH on Switch I'm done with Nintendo and Monster Hunter in general.

>>375920782
That's like your opinion, anon.

>>375920345
Yeah, nintendo gave their game for free :^)

>>375920780
Because I'm sick of you retards defending it.

>>375920782
It has entire Wii library.

That you don't have to pay twice for, amirite, Xbone and PS4.

>>375920782
It literally has the Wii library tho

report this copy/paste retard and move on, people

>>375920932
>>375920940
A wii used is like $50-60 and has games
A wii U is like $300 and has no games
hmmmmm which one is a better deal

>>375919645
>Mario mario mario mario mario mario mario zelda zelda mario sonic mario mario
Here's your game bro!

>>375921013
Wii U, because it plays Wii games and you get Wii U's library + new Wii models don't play Gamecube games.

>>375921151
>and you get Wii U's library
which not a single person cares about
>+ new Wii models don't play Gamecube games.
they do through homebrew

>>375919540
>little do they know that casuals don't know the switch exists
what?

>>375919908
>botw on 3ds
Since when?
Is it on freeshop?
Please respond

>>375921202
You may not care about it, but if a person decided to buy a Wii at all, then he is most likely interested in Wii U games as well.

>>375921013
Wii backwards compatibility+Wii U library+ Wiimote compatibility`+ motherfucking gamecube controller compatibility if you still have those lying around.

>>375921531
You need the adapter for GC controllers and very few people have one.

>>375920931
>acknowledging the good parts of this bad game is defending the game

Fuck you blind haters. Having a nuanced opinion on the different aspects of a game is good instead of blindly considering everything either good or bad

>>375918621
Games alone can't sell the console. The console itself has to be desirable.

The Wii U itself was just a stupid idea for a console. The Switch is a much better and more appealing product for the masses.

>>375921727
>>acknowledging the good parts of this bad game is defending the game
Do people acknowledge the "good" parts of Ryse? The Order?
No, they don't

>>375921875
Everyone can admit that at times Order looks actually pretty good for a console game.

The problem is that game fucking sucks.

>>375921875
I don't know. You should ask the people who played those games.

Don't buy consoles at launch.

>>375921328
What makes you think that?

>>375921604
>You need the adapter for GC controllers
Have GC controller
Buy adapter
Bam! there you have it.

>>375918621
Marketing and branding is important.

Not to trust nintendo

>>375920230
Reggie pays people out of pocket to shill here.

>>375922123
Or better yet, buy them once they've been discontinued. There is literally zero reason to buy brand new hardware or games, nothing decent has come out in years anyway.

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>>375918621
>What did we learn from the Wii U scam?
Going by the amount of people who bought a Switch, nothing at all.

>>375924263
The switch has sold the same amount as the WiiU did in the same timespan.

>>375923740
Arent they sold out?

>>375924263
What What did he mean by this

>>375918621
To never buy Nintendo shit again

So we'll never be able to civilly discuss the Wii U again right?

>>375924373
Thats literally WRONG though

>>375925980
Do it monster hunter style

>>375926061
>Do it monster hunter style
Whats that? I don't play MH

>>375924674
He means people didn't learn from the Wii U scam

>>375926106
Start a thread about how "shit" it is so people who like the game flock to the thread and actually discuss the game? I think that's how it works.

>>375926061
>Thats literally WRONG though

The numbers don't line, buddy. The Switch and WiiU have sold the same in the same timespan. Just because they've "sold out" doesn't negate that fact.

>>375918621
That the switch is a Wii U 2.0

>>375920817
What did he mean by this?

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>>375918621
Have no business with Nintendo anymore.

Wii U is gorgeous.
Sadly, this >>375919040

>>375929887
>Good games

>Color Splash, Star Fox and Devill's Third

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>>375929979
>Good games
>Color Splash, Star Fox and Devill's Third
Everything is correct here.

>>375930241
Nintentards and their taste, everyone.

>>375923383
Well ok, why the fuck would a person buy a Wii today.

>>375919040
fpbp

It's fucking crazy how many people will go apeshit over a console just because of an effective commercial. I remember PS4s flying off shelves when it came out and I didn't see a single game worth a damn on it at the same time you could get a Wii U with Monster Hunter 3U and Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze

>>375918621
Advertising and presentation are everything. Nintendo released two Wii U ports to the Switch and they both stand poised to do much better than they ever did on the Wii U, so it's got to be more than merely content.

>>375930791
Monster Hunter is a game for subhumans and the Wii U version is just an enhanced port of the Wii game anyways

No Metroid no buy

>>375930658
Why the fuck would a person buy a Wii U today?

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>>375918621
nintendo doesn't give a shit about loyal fans and will sell them out if it helps appeal to normies

>>375919040
FPBP. We found out raw power didn't sell them (GameCube) and now we've found out that no matter how many good games a console has, it won't sell just because of them. Which leads me to the conclusion that in this day and age, marketing and hype sells anything vidya related. How do you think companies like Ubisoft are still in the industry?

>>375931270
You mean the Nintendo home console with the least good games? Yeah, that sure would convince everyone to get a WiiU.

>>375931270
>no matter how many good games a console has
Why are people still pretending Wii U had good games?

>>375931521
Because every console has at least some good games, don't lie. Even the Xbox One has a few.
I never said "exceptional" or "pure shit", just good. What I hate is people saying that it has many underrated games because the library is so sparse outside of first party titles that chances are you know what they are already.

>more exclusives than PS4 & Xbone combined
>fully backwards compatible with Wii
>hackable
>fully backwards compatible with Gamecube once you hack it

I'll never understand the "Wii U was bad!" meme.

>>375918621
that nintendo can sell the same thing twice and nobody will notice because it doesn't even matter what your piece of shit hardware does, retards just want to be marketed to properly so they'll buy anything

>>375932032
It's because you tards who like the Wii U try to pass off games like Hyrule Warriors, Color Splash and Star Fox as "good games"

>>375932032
>worst (read nonexistent) third party support
>less exclusives than PS4
>most exclusives are mediocre to bad
>garbage hardware that is outdated even by 2006 standards
>controller with terrible battery life
>good controller is an optional peripheral
>"you need to hack it before to unlock good features of the console"

The WiiU is garbage.

>>375920140
I don't have a single normie friend or co-worker that even knows the Switch exists

>>375932147
>T. Salty person who fell for the wii u meme
So you're telling me you could play the wii u wherever you wanted and it didn't have a second screen for a map or inventory?

>>375932570
Fuck off marketer

>>375931073
Why do you ask what person will buy, Wii or Wii U and then deviate from your own hypothetical situation?

>>375932792
They buy a Wii because it has good games
Again, why the fuck would someone want a Wii U?

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>>375918621
It was'nt a scam I got a shit ton of fun out of it with my roomates. My Wii U is way more used by everyone than my roomate PS4.

Sorry if some of my roomates bought some shitty games like , Just Dance, Fifa and COD.

I also have Mario Kart, Rayman Legends, Warioware and NintendoLand digitally. Quite a lot of eshop titles too including all the games that were available in the 2 nintendo humble bundles.

>>375932870
>>375921151
>>375921531

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>>375918621
I bet you're responsible for like 99% of all these shit Wii U topics that always start with a short "why did it fail?" or something similar.

You seriously need help, m8.

>>375932771
>You can now say the PS2 is the same as the PS1 and call anyone who says otherwise a shill
Wew lad.

>>375932908
Nothing wrong with cod . Activision always put a lot of effort into their nintendo ports unlike ea. And blops 2 is good

>>375932908
You bought Hyrule Warriors and Mario and Sonic at the Olympic games. You have just as much garbage taste as your roommate

>>375933051
When it comes to Wii U ports no one shit the bed more than Ubisoft. Watch Dogs is literally criminally bad ironically, same goes for the game.

Only port that stands out is probably Deus Ex.

>>375933051

What has EA put effort into in the last 20 years?

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>>375932570
i don't go outside and the gamepad worked fine in my bathroom, so that's not a selling point for me (and the portability seems to be the sole, exclusive feature anyone has to tout regarding Switch)

>it didn't have a second screen for a map or inventory?

I don't know what you're even saying here, Deus Ex on Wii U was a fantastic port because it had the second screen for your inventory. The fact both Switch and Wii U don't let you have shit open on the touch pad in Zelda is assbackwards retarded and a waste of a potential feature

I think Nintendo marketed the Wii U really badly which is what killed it (on top of an incredibly slow trickle of decent games), but with all its games out now including Zelda, a refurb $200 wii u is LITERALLY a better investment for 2017 than a Switch.

>has VC
>free online play
>gamepad isn't fucked up by using a dock that scratches your screen
>gamepad doesn't bend from overheating like Switch does
>$100 cheaper (and comes with a pack-in game free, while Switch charges $40 for SF2 and $50 for that POS 1-2 Switch)
>Wii U gamepad can do things while playing on TV, Switch cannot
>Switch goes outside where you can easily lose the $50 Joycons, bulkier than just playing games on 3DS or phone, if you drop it then you just broke the entire console

>>375932983
lol wow

>>375931270
Having actual games sells consoles. People need more than just mario on their systems. They need third party games. They need variety. WII U provided none of that. It failed for good reason and i say this as someone who likes his wii u.

>>375933124
I'm guilty for Hyrule Warriors and Mighty N9 that I bought for 5 bucks.

Mario and sonic was'nt me.

>>375919040
Yeah. Despite Wiiu's shirt lifespann, I don't really regret it that much because I had tons of fun with Splatoon, Lego City Undercover, Shovel Knight, Mario Kart, and Botw

>>375933385
what no you didnt

>>375933302
PS4's original IPs: Order 1886, Knack, Disney's Brave.

Wii U's original IPs: Wonderful 101, Splatoon

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The Wii U library is 99% garbage with a handful of good to alright games.

>>375933385
BOTW is a Switch game

>>375933051
>Activision always put a lot of effort into their nintendo ports
They didn't even give players the blops 2 DLC.
You know what their response was?
https://community.callofduty.com/t5/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-II-Wii-U/Wii-U-DLC-Posts-Threads/m-p/8702524

>>375933650
If it was, it wouldn't have been a port of Wii U version.

I don't think the Wii U was really that bad.
It had Monster Hunter 3U, Bayonetta 2, you could play all your Wii games on it and it had Virtual Consoles.

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>>375918621
the sole reason anyone is buying a switch is because we as a society are fixated on forward progress. even if the new thing is worse than the old thing, has less features, etc, idiots who only care about what's trending will buy it because it's the new thing.

a Switch is less useful than a 3DS or a Wii U, has less to play, and costs more, on top of locking features behind a future paywall, and launching with its killer app being cross-platform.

I would consider buying a Switch to be justifiable if Zelda had been exclusive to it and not released on Wii U, but people praising Switch because of Zelda are fucking retarded, they act like the Switch was needed to play the game when it is functionally identical to the Wii U version.

MK8D and Splatoon 2 are the same fucking thing, they took the original game, didn't improve it at all, and then patched in more content. Nothing about any of the games shown or released for Switch justifies needing to spend another $300 USD ($400CAD) for a Wii U that goes outside and will soon even cost money(!) to play on Nintendo's fucking terrible servers

>>375933694
They came out simultaneously on both
It runs much, much better on Switch
It's a Switch game

>>375933717
Monster hunter is shit, I can play Wii games on Wii, and the virtual console selection is absolute trash
Didn't get N64 games until 2015 and didn't get Star Fox 64 until February 2017
Inexcusable how bad that shit was

>>375932280
And? PS4 owners try to pass of Knack and The Order 1886 as good. Xbone owners try to pass Halo 5 and Ryse as good. PC owners try to pass VR tech demos as good.

>>375932389
>third party support
Third parties hardly make exclusive games anymore, because there's more money in multiplats. And I'd rather play multiplats on PC anyway, so the Wii U not getting them means nothing.
>less exclusives than PS4
Wrong.
>most exclusives are mediocre to bad
Same could be said for PS4 & Xbone. Except it'd actually be true that time.
>garbage hardware
I'll give you that. Same could be said about anything that isn't PC though.
>bad battery life
I'll give you that
>good controller is optional peripheral
I'll give you that
>"you need to hack it before to unlock good features of the consoles"
As opposed to it not being hackable at all AND still lacking those features? I mean, at least the Xbone is backwards compatible with 360. But the PS4 is a fucking joke in terms of features.

>>375933745
I guess RDR is an Xbox 360 game then.

>>375933848
>PS4 owners try to pass of Knack and The Order 1886 as good. Xbone owners try to pass Halo 5 and Ryse as good.
No they don't, they acknowledge they're bad. You nintentards are the only ones who start autistically screeching when someone shits on the actually bad Wii U games like Star Fox.

>>375918621
In all honesty, just to wait for a decent library to come to a console for picking one up. The Wii U got too little too late, and either all of the games on it are getting ported over or the games like Star Fox Zero have so many issues I probably wouldn't even have gotten it in the first place. I'm still dumfounded that the 3DS stole many of its exclusives despite stuff like Hyrule Warriors having better performance on a console.

>>375933937
Guess so.

>>375918621
I've skipped the Wii to finish my gamecube backlog. I've bought a Wii U for Bayo2, W101, DKCTF, Zombi U, Pikmin 3, 3D World, XBX and Splatoon. My only regret is that I've bought it before the webexploit.

>>375933848
>PS4 owners try to pass of Knack and The Order 1886 as good.

What is it with you b-b-but knack and the order shitposters? PS4 players never considered them good. Even average games like Killzone Shadow Fall got the shaft by them. At least, they had the decency to not consider a game good until a real good one was released like Bloodborne, Nioh, Persona 5, Ratchet and Clank, Yakuza 0, and Odin Sphere Leifthrasir. Meanwhile, too many Nintendofags have been defending garbage like SF0 and Paper Mario Color Splash for some inexplicable reason, showing that the hardcore Nintendo fanbase has terrible taste in gaming and almost nullifying other games that are often also listed as good on these lists like Splatoon, Bayo 2, Tropical Freeze, and W101.

t. someone who actually owns a WiiU and beat SF0 and PMCS

>>375934878
Its hilarious to me how Nintendofags try to pretend like they have such amazing enlightened taste in games because they don't buy movie games, then they turn around and defend crap like SFZ and Color Splash.

How do I partition a Wii U HDD so I can use it for Wii and GC games as well?

>>375935415
You don't. Get a bigger SD card and put those games on that.

>>375935865
You cannot play Wii games from an SD card

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>awful lot of Wii U post-mortem threads lately
>happen to see SuperBunnyDog released a post-mortem video on the Wii U mere days ago
Welp solved that mystery.
For all the shit you guys give youtube e-celebs, you sure like to parrot all your topics from them.

>>375936120
I don't know watch youtubers, I just want /v/ to acknowledge that the Wii U was trash.

>>375934006
>The Wii U got too little too late
I've never understood how good games can come out "too late", like just because they are dangling a newer shiny bauble over your head, the previous one just... what, bursts into a puff of smoke?

When Switch launched did all copies of games on Wii U just cease to exist? Have you even touched on *half* of the good games for it? Wii U also has a full VC while Switch has no VC at all.

i don't get it

>>375936292
>like just because they are dangling a newer shiny bauble over your head, the previous one just... what, bursts into a puff of smoke?
Why would I want to play BOTW on Wii U, with it running like shit and constantly stuttering and dropping frames, when the Switch is available?Nintendo basically made the decision for me by gutting the performance so bad on Wii U. Its terribly unoptimized.
>Have you even touched on *half* of the good games for it?
Not the guy you replied to, I'm >>375933580 so yes I have
>Wii U also has a full VC while Switch has no VC at all.
No, it does not. Barely any of the good GBA games are on VC. NONE of the good DS games are on VC. N64 wasn't on VC until 2015, still doesn't have everything the wii had. And N64 has bad input lag on Wii U.
Wii U's virtual console is SHIT.

>>375936502
>Why would I want to play BOTW on Wii U, with it running like shit and constantly stuttering and dropping frames, when the Switch is available?
They both have the same amount of frame drops and both have the same improvement in performance when playing in handheld mode.

>muh 900p over 720p

both versions have the piss filter and fog too

>>375936674
>They both have the same amount of frame drops and both have the same improvement in performance when playing in handheld mode.
Absolutely untrue.
Switch version is at a constant stable 30 fps after the most recent update. The update on Wii U basically did nothing.
Switch is constant 30, Wii U is constant 20 fps

>>375936674
>They both have the same amount of frame drops and both have the same improvement in performance when playing in handheld mode.
This was never true

>>375936741
>>375936735
placebo effect lol

they're the same fucking game you autismo spergs


switch version is literally the same build ported over from wii u. the bare minimal spec improvements in switch might save you like 5 frames lmao and that's worth $300 ok

>>375936735
>The update on Wii U basically did nothing.
The update actually lowered the framerate on WiiU. Nintendo literally doesn't give a fuck about the few WiiU owners.

>>375936879
>switch version is literally the same build ported over from wii u.
So why does Wii U version run like absolute garbage? They clearly went beyond what the Wii U was capable of doing and it shows. They focused much more on the Switch version than Wii U.
Its like playing Bayonetta 3 on PS3. Its literally that bad.

>scam
fuck off console warriors.

what we learned from the U and Xbone is that marketing is everything and if you fuck it up you won't recover. tons of people failed to realize the Wii U wasn't a special version Wii. people still shit on xbone for not playing used games and all the online DRM. even after backtracking or trying to fix the situation with new marketing campaigns its too little too late. the word is out, people are done talking about it, what they think is what is true to them, and the damage is already done.

>>375937026
>the difference between 30fps with framerate drops to low 20s and 30fps with framerate drops to low 20s is the same as 30fps with framerate drops to low 10s and 60fps with framerate drops to low 40s

hmm, really makes my mario wahoo

>>375920932
uhh this might come a couple of hours too late, but you can play your 360 games on Xbone without having to pay for them again.

>>375937026
>So why does Wii U version run like absolute garbage?
They are 99.8% the same game with 99.8% same performance, I never had any glitches or issues with my run on U either. The thing where the game freezes on critical strikes seems to be intentional (it happens on Switch too)

Game freezing in Korok forest or opening cliff was improved identically in both Switch and Wii U versions, I tested it

>>375937238
I'm glad your toddler mind was able to grasp the concept

>>375919040
we've {westerners] known this since the dreamcast

>>375918621
that nintendo is filled with fucking retards

>>375937307
>They are 99.8% the same game with 99.8% same performance
You are wrong. I play on my buddy's Switch and it is smooth as butter. I play on my Wii U and I get stutters and shit constantly. Its ridiculous, I literally can't bring myself to play it after seeing how much better the switch version is firsthand.

>>375919645
Your taste is awful

>>375937439
As has been proven in saner circles than /v/, both games shit themselves an equal amount, in different locations. So places that run smooth on Wii U may stutter on Switch and vice versa.

>>375934878
>>375935079

What is it with you b-b-but Star Fox and Color Splah shitposters?

No, literally, you guys start and end conversations with just those fucking two. It's hilarious how you pretend they're the only games have been released for the thing since 2014

Let me guess, Pokken doesn't count because 30fps, #FE was ruined in the west and the fanmade patch doesn't count, HW and Yoshi are better on the 3DS, this game doesn't count, that game doesn't count, your fun doesn't count, logic doesn't count...

>>375937572
>still talking about launch states of both games and not the updated ones

Stop being retarded, anon.

>>375937792
korok forest and the cliff were the only locations i even noticed any stuttering so either you guys are exaggerating for the sake of feeling like you won the argument, or you got a really defective console/copy

>>375936120
Have you seen the video? George was fairly positive about the Wii U. He does talk about what went wrong etc. but none of his arguments are what you see in these threads, in a lot of ways it's the exact opposite

>>375937572
No, that's wrong, go watch the digital foundry they made after the update.

>>375918621
N-tards learned nothing, they jumped on the Switch too.

>>375937732
I don't see how any of those things you put in spoilers are invalid arguments

>>375937975
if said update made wii u version worse, then all i can say is, i am glad i finished the game a month ago

>>375937732
Pokken is shit. Bringing that garbage up is like bringing up the Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm games or the PS3 JoJo game.
#FE is a mediocre JRPG that would have been just as forgotten as a Neptunia game was it not for the controversy and association with SMT and FE.
HW is yet another Dynasty Warriors game. You might as well bring up the numerous One Piece, Gundam, Hokuto no Ken, and other Dynasty Warriors clones if you bring that shit up.
For YWW, I'm not gonna hold a strong opinion on since I don't like Yoshi to begin with and the Yoshi's Island gameplay doesn't appeal to me. The game looked gorgeous, the sound was great, the level design pretty varied, and the platforming controlled pretty well, so I guess the game could be considered good, just not for me.

>Zombi U is great!
>Multiplat comes out
>It's garbage
>No one said it's good

I learnt to never trust the opinions of nintenboys

>>375919908
Same with mario kart 8 and smash

>>375938370
With how few games are actually released on Nintendo consoles, you better enjoy every last bit of the library, not matter the quality.

>>375931108
Iwata may have pioneered the Wii (which started their crusade to abandon core demo and go for soccer moms and toddlers while promotion "health" with the grey logo), but he was simultaneously the only one fighting against mobile gaming and attacking fan works. The effects of losing him are becoming clearer by the day

>>375919645
a lot of your exclusives either have ports or ARE ports. nice padding

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>>375938074
What i don't see if why the fuck do (you) keep making these threads

I might think it's trolling and shitposting, but you are so fucking ripetitive, it feels like you really just believe this shit. Don't you have fucking videogames to play? All this wisdom about how shit the Wii U is must come from somewhere, right?

>>375938636
the exclusives are nintendo exclusives, not wiiu exclusives per se

PRICE DROP NEVER EVER

>>375938828
>it feels like you really just believe this shit.
I do believe it. Wii U sucks.
>Don't you have fucking videogames to play?
I have a Wii U so no of course I don't.

>>375939072
>I have a Wii U so no of course I don't.

Ah, perfect. Glad we cleared that you're only pretending to be retarded, i feel better knowing people aren't actually THAT stupid

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>>375939072
>I have a Wii U so no of course I don't.

>>375939315
I posted my games here >>375933580

>>375938370
Same thing happened with Sonic Lost World, Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge, and Lego City.

>"Sonic Lost World is actually good! Reviewers only panned it because they're bad at the game!"
>gets ported to PC
>"Who cares? It was a shit game anyway!"

>>375939425
>Devil's Third

Did you actually beat that? What did you think of it? As bad as reviewers said it was?

>>375927367
>it took 8 weeks for the Wii U to break 1 million sold globally
>it took 4 weeks for the Switch to sell 2.7 million
wat
Lemme see your numbers boy, because they are off.

>>375939626
I played like 70% of the story. Yes, it is as bad as reviews say. The whole game is just a mess.

>>375937307
>They are 99.8% the same game with 99.8% same performance
They are exactly the same content wise, but the difference between the Wii u and Switch versions is night and day when it comes to performance. You sound like the kind of guy who would defend Sonic Genesis with that same statement.
Also
>No glitches on my copy of the game :^)
>That thing where the game freezes? Completely intentional because the Switch version has it.

>>375939604
Lego City's praise by the WiiU audience was understandable, since it was the only sandbox game on the system other than Watch Dogs (might have even been released before this game), but NG3 and Sonic were baffling. When you have Mario, Bayo 2, and W101 on your system, how can you possibly think those games are good?

>>375939425
So what, it's just personal revenge? You're gonna punish big bad Nintendo by badmouthing their dead console on a Cambodian wall paintings board? It's not anyone's fault you were born with shit taste

>>375940119
Why can't /v/ just face facts and admit the Wii U was garbage?

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>>375940350

>>375939768
I guess I'm the only one who didn't think the game was as bad as the reviewers claimed it was. Don't get me wrong. I still think it's bad, but with some polish, there was a pretty interesting and enjoyable game underneath, a fun B-game to play.

>>375940064
I haven't seen a single person complain of any glitches at all. And yes the freeze on critical hits is intentional. That's why it happens on every critical hit you fucking retard. There is nothing for the game to stutter on loading.

>>375940581
It stutters for me when I'm just running around in the world.
No one ever believes me when I say this, wish I knew how to make a video or whatever.

>>375940581
There are small, occasional freezes when fighting grublins due to whatever glitch, but since the last patch it never occurred again to me, they're clearly polishing it

But of course naysayers must comically exaggerate things

>>375940581
>the freeze on critical hits is intentional

Yes and no. Some freezes are a second long as intentional, some actually last longer and are succeeded by a few seconds of single digit framerate slowdown.

>>375940706
Because games stutter. You don't need video proof for people to believe that. the fact is only spergmasters actually give a shit when they lose 2 frames while running through a field or whatever the fuck.

the fact people argue more about single digit frame drops is either

>a sign you have nothing better or more meaningful to complain about
>you were going to complain about framerate anyway, even if it was locked at a perfect 30fps

>>375940532
I guess its alright for a pirate but wouldn't recommend someone to buy it especially since the online is done now

>>375939626
I've beaten the game. Put it this way: you can chuck a grenade right at someone when they're not looking, they won't notice and they'll die to it. You have ninjas who can only run at you and attack you; they can't jump. And the mashes up the generic plots of sci-fi horror, thriller and world war games into one big mess.
>>375940581
>And yes the freeze on critical hits is intentional. That's why it happens on every critical hit you fucking retard
OK, why did that get patched out in the Switch version? Why did the Moblin physics slowdown get neutered in that patch? And why did they fix the framerate issues as well in the Switch version? Were those things totally intentional if they got patched on the better version? Fucking retard.

>>375940891
no idea why that happens. honestly it doesn't seem to be a hardware thing, the game just randomly drops frames in both versions with no reason evident.

>>375941035
>the fact people argue more about single digit frame drops is either
>>a sign you have nothing better or more meaningful to complain about
Well yeah. BOTW is a good game, just wish it didn't run like complete shit on the system I have it for.
>>you were going to complain about framerate anyway, even if it was locked at a perfect 30fps
No I wouldn't. I play it on my buddy's Switch and its really smooth, wish I had played the entire game that way. Its honestly kind of ruined the Wii U version for me.

>>375941313
Did the fix the framerate in Hateno Village on the switch version? I remember that being the worst place for low framerates on the wiiu version.

>>375941508
Yeah its fixed in the villages. Digital foundry did a new video after the update.

>>375938828
if you look at the posting history of most OPs on /v/ it becomes obvious none of them are genuine people trying to open a discussion, nearly every OP now is a copy paste or slightly modified reused OP from someone else. Creativity and OC are a daydream of the past on 4chan, and it is genuinely hard to distinguish "ironic" shitposters from people with some agenda, or folks counting on /v/'s ignorance and poor judge of character to try and sell us things without us realizing it

The wii u was a scam and I say this as someone who likes the wii u. it's my only next gen (or whatever) console. They didnt bother making games for it for like a year though. They didnt even try. Every E3 reggie would say "we have to make the wii u attractive with our own games. We have to push the ibstall base" and E3 after E3 came and went and it was just mediocre reveal after mediocre reveal. Bullshit 2d platformers and amiibo trash. Where was mario oddysey? Where were the big hitters? They didn't even fucking try and then they just abandoned it. They didnt bother bringing the price down. They did nothing. They let the wii u owners down. They didnt push it anywhere near hard enough and then they just abandoned it. I used to be a big nintendo fan but fuck em. I lost a lot of faith in them with the wii u

>>375941508
Switch patch completely fixed it and the Wii U update kept it locked at 25 FPS.
Switch patch makes Korok Forest more bearable and the Wii U update did hardly anything to improve performance in that area.

>>375918621
The only scam was how Sony managed to sell over 30 million consoles in its first two years with ZERO games while Wii U was actually getting games and was left in the dust.

So I guess what we learned are that gamers are mindless sheep who are just as easily led around by gossip and tabloid-tier media coverage the the "filthy casuals" they think themselves so much better than.

What happened to the Wii U was a tragedy and you fuckers can all hang yourselves with your $800 PSVR headsets.

>>375943050
>b-b-b-but SONY
fuck off

>>375943050
Ps4 had lots of big third party games. And when you bug Sony system you know you're gEtting all future big miltiplats too. It's a good investment. and I don't even own a ps4. Playstations and xboxes are multiplat machines

>>375943140
Fuck you, I'm right.

>>375918621
That nintedrones are fucking retarded and re bought it again but in tablet form aka the switch which has even less games, but don't worry they will port all the good wii u games on the swtich so you can rebuy those too.

>>375943358
No you're not.
What the fuck did Wii U have? It was literally a no games machine until late 2014 when it finally got Bayonetta 2, Mario Kart 8 and Smash

>>375943310
>And when you bug Sony system you know you're gEtting all future big miltiplats too. It's a good investment.

Wii U could have been a good investment if devs bothered porting to it as feverishly as they did all those PS4 remasters.

>>375943458
Wii U was weaker than 360 and PS3, so it isn't the third party dev's fault that Wii U didn't get ports. It was just too fucking weak to handle anything.

>>375943446
What game could I mention that you won't immediately dismiss? Mario to you is "bing bing wahoo", anything casual is not worth talking about, and any third-party games you fuckers pissed and moaned until they went multiplat.

Remember Rayman Legends? Remember how that could've been a Wii U exclusive if you had actually LET it instead of shit your diapers over it while simultaneously goldfacing all over "omg it's so hard real gamers only" Bloodborne?

>>375943458
I'm as disappointed by the wii u third party support as you are, and I think 3Rd could have tried harder, but nintendo didn't help. They launched with nsmb and nintendo land and that was it for a year. They didnt keep any sort of momentum going and all the 3rd parties fucked off after like 6 months

>>375943458
>Ouya could have been a good investment if devs bothered porting to it as feverishly as they did all those PS4 remasters.

Nah, the ports the WiiU did get like Ass Cree 4, Watch Dogs, the batman games, darksiders 2, and many more only showed that Nintendofags don't bother with multiplats and that multiplats just aren't that good on the wiiu.

>>375943724
Mario is fine, but Wii U has 3D world which is the worst 3D Mario.
>Remember how that could've been a Wii U exclusive if you had actually LET it instead of shit your diapers over it while simultaneously goldfacing all over "omg it's so hard real gamers only" Bloodborne?
What kind of ridiculous whining is this? Ubisoft made the decision to make it multiplat, don't fucking take it out on us.
Why does it deserve to be exclusive anyways?

>>375943561
>Wii U was weaker than 360 and PS3
Wii U was STRONGER than PS3 and had a similar hardware setup to the 360, while its newer architecture and massive RAM helped make up for its admittedly lower clock speed.

Any "technical difficulties" that third-parties had with the system are bullshit if their game got a PS3 or especially a 360 release. They didn't WANT to try.

>>375943963
>Wii U was STRONGER than PS3 and had a similar hardware setup to the 360
No, it didn't. It was weaker than both.

>>375941056
Devil's Third isn't good enough to buy, that's for sure. The first half of the game is pretty rough, with the second level and its awful mines and the fourth level with the terrible bulletsponge mutated humans, but from the ninja level onwards, I think the game gets fun and the bossfights are actually enjoyable throughout. I would recommend anyone who owns a WiiU and can stomach b-games to play it. It's competent enough to make it "so bad it's good" without actually being unplayable like Ride to Hell Retribution.

>>375944003
Wii U was a tri-core PowerPC just as the 360 was and despite its lower clock speed, was running on a newer iteration of the POWER architecture and had a massive memory bandwidth. It also not using the arcane Cell architecture made it easier to develop for than the PS3 while also being a more capable system overall when pushed to its limits, as evidenced by the games that had multiplats between the PS3/360 and the Wii U, including but not limited to: Rayman Legends, Need For Speed: Most Wanted 2012, and Bayonetta 1.

I repeat: any "technical difficulties" devs had with the system while simultaneously being able to make a PS3 and/or 360 version were utter bullshit.

>>375918621
name your kids properly or they will suffer bullying

>>375944389
Bayonetta 1 runs worse on Wii U than 360

>>375944470
What makes you say that?

>>375944595
Go watch digital foundry's video, with the Xbox one, 360 and Wii U, the Wii U goes below 30 fps during witch time, the other versions don't

>>375919645
that's a lot of trash

Two things:

1.) People need to know that your console is actually a console and not a fucking controller for the Wii

2.) Consoles need to have games on them.

>>375929887
>the worst ninja gaiden that you can play a much more stable version of on xbox and ps3, consoles a gen behind the wii u

>>375932908
>mass effect 3

>>375919921
>>375920074
>>375937498
>>375938636
>>375944878
>All of these casuals that didnt get gud at SF0 simply by learning how to aim withouth looking at the gamepad.

>>375946010
Fuck off

>>375933668
blops1 treatment on the original wii should have tipped them of

>>375937498
Why?

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The Wii U is complete shit, only thing it's good for is playing Splatoon (and even that won't be true soon thanks to Splatoon 2 on switch)

>>375946840
What if Spla2oon turns out worse and everyone goes back to the original since it has free online play?

>>375947998
I can't think of any possible way the sequel could be worse

>>375919040
This.

WiiU had over 10 great exclusives, more than the PS4 or Xbox One by far, yet it had the worst name and insanely bad marketing. Killed it before it even had a chance.

>>375948183
The WiiU hardly had 5 good exclusives, let alone 10 great exclusives.

>>375948183
10 is pushing it. More like 6-8.

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>>375918621
To wait 2 or 3 years before getting a console, when piracy becomes possible.

I hacked my Wii U and pirated every worthwhile game. Solid purchase and I only spent about $350 on the thing after the console + pro controller + external drive.

Meanwhile, you desperate cucks had to starve between droughts and spending full $60 on each game. And you're doing the same with the Switch.

>>375948345
Wrong.

Bayonetta 2
DKCTF
SMM
XCX
Pikmin 3
W101
SM3DW
Splatoon
Mario Kart 8
Smash 4 and MH3U which might as well be considered exclusives since playing them on the TV with a proper controller is so superior it might as well be a whole different game compared to the fucking shitty 3DS

>>375948545
3U is an outdated monster hunter though

>>375948653
Just because new MHs have come out since then doesn't mean 3U wasn't amazing.
In fact, I still consider 3U to be among the best MH games ever made. Good story, great monsters, comfiest village, best guild girl, no shitty charge blade, fantastic music and final fight, I love it.
I even like some underwater in moderation

Playing it on the TV was certainly a revelation, I long for the chance to do this again. Hopefully a MHXX port on the Switch or something will happen.

>>375948545

>anon asks for games
>your first game is literally a movie worse than Uncharted

awkward.

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>>375919040
I bought a PS4 for Persona 5. I'd do it again.

>>375918621
NoA is filled to the brim with yes men and Nintendo can't make any more /great/ games that push our preconceived notions about vidya.

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>>375948946

>XBONE is worse than both WiiU and PS4

>>375948545
>no #FE

>>375949449
I thought it's pretty mediocre, but I'm alright with other people enjoying it.

>>375949449
Its honestly not a very good game

>>375949546
>>375949449
Da fuq? JRPG of 2016 and iyashikei SMT. The dungeons are genuinely superior to P5.

>>375949979
>The dungeons are genuinely superior to P5.
typical drone victim complex

>>375948545
>Bayonetta 2
>DKCTF
>Pikmin 3
>W101
>Splatoon

That's 5. Where are the other good games?

>>375919645
This is some hard-core padding from a deluded nintendo fanaticboy. Either that or very good bait...

There are MAYBE 4 or 5 games on that list which are more than an 8/10.

>>375919858
Same problem here. Your list treats every turd from nintendo as though it is a gift from god when there are probably 4-5 actual quality titles there. How many of these games are actually something you would buy a system for?

>>375918621
I already learnt from the Wii scam and didn't buy one.

>>375950079
I have both.

>>375950275
I personally learned from the NES scam tbqh

>>375918621
>Never make the name of your console sound like an add on rather than an actual new console
>if you're gonna make it weaker than your competitors don't make it so it's a hassle to port
>third party matters
>stop fucking making fully fledged 3D games for the 3DS and boring glorified minigames for the Console
>stop this fucking 2.5D meme
>Zombi U and NIntendo Land are fun but aren't a good launch title line-up
>for the love of fuck advertise your games as games not fucking fisher price toys
>cut back on the fucking gimmicks

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>>375933650
>>375933745
>This fucking guy again
I played it on my Wii U and thought it was fine. The framerate wasn't that big of an issue for me and the Switch's resolution is barely an upgrade. Why are you so desperate to get people to early adopt a Switch? That's a stupid idea with any piece of tech.
>inb4 poorfag.

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>>375948345
That's still 5 more than Xbone and PS4 combined.

>>375919040
No, good games do sell consoles.

Maybe you need to consider that the Wii U did not have good games.

>>375954337
>No, good games do sell consoles.
Nope, advertising does. Why do you think so many people bought the Xbone?

>>375954539
>Why do you think so many people bought the Xbone?
Because it had games people wanted to play.

A console lives or dies by its games. That has always been the case and it always will be. Quit making excuses.

>>375954598
>Because it had games people wanted to play.
Every time I've been over to a friends their collection consists of EA Sports games, yearly shooters, and GTAV. You don't need good games to sell a console.

>>375954276
Not anymore, nintenbro. Now, it's PS4 that is leading the charts for exclusives.

I'm still waiting for someone to prove the PS4 or Xbone has a better library of exclusives than the Wii u.

It'll never happen.

>>375954337
You tell me how the PS4 manage to sell over $40 million units despite the only thing worth a damn at the time being a soccer game

>>375954935
People don't like "wahoo badding badding one up " anymore. The gaming market has matured and even kids don't want shitty platformers anymore. Sony and even MS have understood this and profited by making good modern games and allowing third parties to do the same on their platforms. Nintendo has just recently turned around on this with Splatoon and now BotW, so maybe there is hope for the future of Nintendo's games. This will only become more obvious when SMOdyssey fails to sell like the Galaxy games and Nintendo basically makes Mario the Mickey of Disney, nothing more than the face of the company with the occasional shovelware NSMB..

>>375954821
My uncle keeps buying new consoles only for the usual FIFAs, GTAs and occasionally car games. With the 360 he spiced things up with Saints Row 2. I don't even know where these consoles end up to because they consistently disappear as the new one comes (i think he shares them with friends)

>>375954821
Since those games sell, there's obviously demand for them. Video games are a business, and in business selling games matters. People are willing to exchange something they value (money) for those games. Sales are the only objective measure of whether a game is good or bad.

>>375954935
People want to play the soccer game.

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>>375955270
>Sales are the only objective measure of wether a game is good or bad

>>375955270
I don't agree with the last sentence of your first paragraph, but damn you think Nintendo would try and secure non-Japanese big franchises. Nintendo has an image as the Mario machine, for better or worse. Show people they can have Mario plus the other games they care about while they play up cheaper online and local wireless, making LANs easier.

>>375955264
>The gaming market has matured
Video Games are toys and always be. You will always be looked down upon because even the most intricate video game story is on the same level as a Marvel film. This is a medium in which Naughty Dog are considered master story tellers.

>>375956062
And yet een Obama has congratulated Poland on The Witcher games. Modern games aren't looked down upon anymore, except for weebshit and kiddieshit like Mario. Maybe if you would stop playing those games and grew up like the rest to play Skyrim and Fifa, you wouldn't be looked down upon either.

>>375944851
The 360 version sure as hell does

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>>375956402
>yet een Obama has congratulated Poland on The Witcher games.
>grew up like the rest to play Skyrim and Fifa,

>>375956402
>Mature games for mature gamers such as myself.jpg

>>375956880
>Kiddie games for manchildren such as myself.png

>>375957137
>projecting.gif

>>375957274
>no u.webm

>>375957394
>not an argument.exe