Steam Restricts Gifting

> we want to make it easier for you to share the games you love with friends.
So...
> we will be retiring the Gift to E-mail and Gift to Inventory options.
:^)

This is probably to stop the key resellers, but it's still a dick move.

>>375905549
Why is it a dick move to stop resellers?

>Steam "retires" 4 packs

PCu-cks defended this

>Steam "retires" Greenlight

PCu-cks defended this

>Steam "retires" gifting inventories

PCu-cks will defend this as well

>>375905723
>Steam "retires" Greenlight
They did?

>>375905649
Read again, I didn't even say it is. It's a dick move to restrict your options. Now giveaways are dead.

As for stopping resellers, I'm not sure yet. One side, it's a shit tier market, where scammers and fraudsters can fuck people over with little consequence. On the other side - capitalism. Let people trade how they want.

There's a possible upside if publishers and valve aren't being greedy fucks: Good sales may make a comeback. Short, deep sales weren't viable as long as people would just grab keys by the shitload and then resell them, you'd hurt your income long-term too much. They could now make a comeback. Time will tell.

>>375905785
They're going to - which is where indie devs have to pay a flat fee of $5,000 as opposed to the $100 on Greenlight and getting approved by the community.

amazing, now I get to buy games at the high american prices again while earning 0.2, as much as an average american
wtf I love globalism now

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>can no longer buy a game on sale and give it to someone months later when it's at full price for instant friendship cred

>>375905802
Well if people didn't scam we would not have these problems.

The sales won't come back I don't think..they went when the refund policy showed up

>>375905901
Thats not what this means.
You still pay what ever tier your country is in.

>>375905961
>Well if people didn't scam we would not have these problems.

You're a fucking retard. Valve should have known to prevent exploits in the first place

>>375905668
>sony makes you pay to use your own internet (plus 1 indie gaem lol!)
Consolecucks suck sonys dick
>sony and microsoft servers down all the time
Consolecucks suck their dicks

>>375906101
Yes and they are doing it now

>>375906045
>you still pay what ever tier your countty is in
yes, which is exactly what I said
a shit country forced into EU with literally no ways of income other than tourism during summer

>>375905879
>indie devs have to pay a flat fee of $5,000

it's more like a security deposit--they get the money back essentially, getting $10,000 once they have $5,000 in their cut of the sales. it's to keep non-serious fuckwads from putting up every russian 99¢ "idle for cards" broken trash "game" up just to make 100 rubles, or to keep people from doing asset flips that they know will never make $5,000 at any price.

anything that cleans up the cesspool the storefront is at this point is a good step, imo

>>375906158
>anything that cleans up the cesspool the storefront is at this point is a good step, imo

Or you know - just don't buy bad games you mongoloid

key resellers dont gift
youre retarded

also
>>375905549
>>375905802
no, you fucking idiot you literally said " to stop the key resellers... ... still a dick move."

>>375906156
Thats not what you said.
Yiu said that you would have to 'pay american' prices. That makes no sense you will pay the price you always did. You just cant get gifts from americans

>>375906220
>>375905879
Angry that you won't be able to make money by flooding your shovelware on Steam, fucker?

>>375906252
>being this dumb

>>375906220
It's not that consequence free. The storefront being cluttered with shit tier games also takes away exposure from good indie games.
>>375906252
1) buy game during sale, as gift to email
2) sell resulting key
durrrrrrr

Also, you're apparently confused about the meaning of "but".

>>375906257
does this mean I can't buy cheap steam gifts anymore? If yes then that's what I meant. The prices here are the same as everywhere else, regardless of the high difference in living standards

>>375905431
RIP G2A.

You won't be missed.

>>375906421
They'll take a hit, but there's still humble bundle and direct publisher shops.

>>375906220
Pushing back some of the trash is in both Valves and actual game developers best interest. Moving away from the image that Steam is a dumping ground for absolute trash is a move that benefits them both.

>>375906465
No it isn't. Stop spreading bullshit.

>>375905431
>When there is a large difference in pricing between countries, gifting won't be available and you'll know before purchase.

But this has been like this since forever, why bother?

>>375906490
The image of a store is an imporant aspect of marketing. That's not hard to understand. If your store gets a reputation for carrying low quality product, you'll get less customers.

>>375906350
Sales will still happen.
I was lead to believe that the euro zone had market tiers.

Let's try something. How much is Neir automata where you are.

>>375906552
I think they retired zones in europe

>>375906421
Wont effect them, they buy cheap keys not gifts. You haven't been able to use gifts from other countries for ages.

>>375906350
>does this mean I can't buy cheap steam gifts anymore?
You can, you just can't gift them to everybody, except your country, probably. The same shit why you never see ruskies selling their games despite them being sold there for $30 - they can't. Now the region lock just got a bit wider.

>>375906540
I just gave you a random negative response to see your reaction.

>>375906658
>I was only pretending to be retarded

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>>375906552

>>375906448
A lot of the international keys are from 2nd world markets where piracy is heavy.

Well, before I'd buy a game if it was cheap enough. Now I'll just stick to pirating them.

>try to gift a game to my friend in the states
>game is $1 cheaper due to random currency fluctuations
>lol u can't do that
Thanks gaben you fat fuck.

>>375906708
Well shit.

Though I am still unsure of how the gifting thing affects you.

>>375906786
Doesn't it say large difference

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>>375905431
>using Steam in time and age

>>375906158
>5.000 bucks
The fuck. I'm all for reducing shitty RPG Maker cash in's but that seems far to steep. That could help dissuade a lot of the actually good smaller games.

>>375906864
I heard it was something like 10%.

With the currency fluctuation the difference between CAD/US games can easily reach that, at least temporarily.

It was the opposite a few years back as well.

Gaben just wants us to stop gifting and start buying full price.

Good. cant wait to see all those faggot ass key vendors cry about Valve ruining their economy. get a real job

>>375906938
How about you get some real information before shooting your mouth off.

This is to stop scalpers not gifting, you mook

>>375906257
God I miss the days when steam only used dollars. Games were actually sort of priced in a reasonable manner back then.

I haven't bought a single full priced game on steam since I think Portal 2. It's just too fucking expensive and you can always find a legit seller with a better price.

Digital distribution was a mistake.

>>375907073
It literally stops you from being able to gift if the price delta between your countries is too high, this is now the case between US/Aus/Eu/Can when it never used to be.

Do people sell gifts anymore?
I buy a lot of shit off sites like G2A and Kinguin and I always, ALWAYS get a key not a gift.

>>375906797
some key vendors sell games in a gift form
average salary here is ~750€, compare that to your own country

>>375907145
I know what it does. You dont know what the threshold is.
That was my criticism
Keep up asshole

>>375907230
People have tested it and it is 10%

That is what it is, that is far too low.

>>375906910
good, i bet half of that indieshit being spammed on steam store doesn't even earn that 5000 bucks

>>375907201
Ahh I see. Thats what you meant by buying gifts
Then yeah you might be fucked.

>>375905431
it means the jews win again.

>>375905431
Already experiencing this as im a dirty south american, i cant gift games to my friends anymore

>>375907317
Maybe, but it's also a bit sad that this will sort of kill off a lot of the more niche stuff not expected to make a lot of money. Even if they end up making over 5 grand I doubt a lot of 1 person teams will be willing to gamble away that much.

>>375905723
Why did they drop 4 packs?

>>375907267
Meh.
Gotta squash scalpers .

But maybe it will expand

>>375907586
I tried to gift something TONIGHT and it didn't work.

I don't care about scalpers, I'm pissed because suddenly I can't gift things any more.

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>>375907551

>>375906608
You can (even now) but it depends on the publisher's choices.
You can only gift a subscription for X appid to regions that appid can be purchased in.
ie. if you buy a cheap CIS region version that restricted to CIS regions, you can't gift it a US customer
However if say you purchased a key that allowed US/CAN/WesternEurope/Australia/NZ you could buy in US and gift to UK for example.

This is can still be of benefit to Aus/NZ/WesternEurope bros where they share the same appid as US but the US pricing is cheaper
>typically for WesternEurope and UK they'll price the game the same value but in pounds or euros, which after currency conversion makes the US version cheaper, for Aus it's all in USD$ but if it's $USD59.99 on the US store it'll be US$89.99 on the Australian store, which works out to like AUD$130

>>375907534
there's like thousands of other places where they can sell their indieshit

when I go to steam to buy games, I expect high quality games available, not Unity walking simulators, RPG maker garbage, or fake japanese visual novels

>>375907073
dont spread your stupid sperging here

>>375907230
people are not so stupid and lazy as you, dear

>>375907757
Fuck you
>>375907640
Such is life

>>375907829
Such is life isn't an excuse.

I'm very very angry right now.

>>375907718
>there's like thousands of other places where they can sell their indieshit
But I like to have my games on steam.
>when I go to steam to buy games, I expect high quality games available
Why? I mean, those games will get a lot of notice anyways. Unity walking simulators, RPG maker garbage, or fake japanese visual novels are only a problem if you randomly browse the store looking for games you've never heard of before. But you never have to do that if you only play the bigger releases.

>>375907846
It will have to do.
Gotta minimise scalpers somehow.

Get them a steam gift card

>>375906465
You're replying to one of the "devs" who sell shovelware to make 50 bux from the cards sales.

>>375907718
>there's like thousands of other places where they can sell their indieshit
Like what? The one service everyone uses to pirate abandonware wrapped in Dosbox? Please.

>when I go to steam to buy games, I expect high quality games available, not Unity walking simulators, RPG maker garbage, or fake japanese visual novels
Then you clearly don't know Steam, as those are the top sellers.

>>375907920
I can't fucking surprise my boyfriend with a steam gift card you massive twat.

Fuck off gaben.

>>375905649
Because I prefer cheap games?

What kind of stupid question is that?

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>>375907928
>card sales
Emotes is where the money is, make them super rare so people got to craft your shitty badge many times

>>375907967
insert it into his anus while he's sleeping

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How large does the "large difference" have to be?

>>375907967
Them what do you expect them to do about the problem.
You got suggestions or are you just going to bitch?

>>375907920
>scalpers

Scalping doesn't apply here, there is a virtually unlimited supply of keys.

Scalpers sell at above market price. Key resellers sell at below an inflated market price

>>375907998
Sorry yeh I meant that.

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>>375908042
it depends on how jewish they feel

>>375908042
10%. Normal currency fluctuation. I can't fucking gift anything anymore.

>>375908042
10%, read the whole thread fuck

>>375907978
Well you are the reason for this nonsense.
So you can choke on a donkey dick

>>375905431
Are they trying to make me buy the overpriced shit in my countries price region now? Because everything they achieve is me running qBittorrent a lot more often.

>>375908113

>store down the road has lower price for the exact same product
>go to store with lower product
>wow fuck you for doing this

No, fuck YOU.

>No more worrying if a Gift to E-mail or Gift to Inventory is going to work for a friend, gifts sent through the new system will always work on the receiver's account.
So does that mean that there's no more region restrictions?

>try to gift fucking terraria from canada to the states
>you can't do that
Wow

>>375908170
Thats a terrible analogy and you know it.

You are stupid and an asshole

>>375908204
Not sure but probably not, i wouldnt expect them to become less jew

>>375905649
because >>375907201

I don't understand why this is a bad thing
please use a food analogy to enlighten me

>>375905723

Who in their right mind ever defended greenlight?

What the fuck is 4 packs?

>>375908150
No they just want you to stop buying gifts from Russian at 20% of your region prices.

I just picked 5 games at random, and I can't gift ANY of them to the states.

This is horribly designed.

>>375908261
>that's a terrible analogy

try replacing store with website, it's a perfect analogy

>>375908306
Greenlight was good at the beginning at least, but now Valve really need to kill it. Very few interesting stuff ever get put there.
>>375908341
What country are you from? Russia?

>>375905723
>>Steam "retires" Greenlight
Nothing wrong with that, it was infested with literal garbage and people sold votes

>>375908290
You can't gift your friend games unless he's in the same region as you?

I can't understand why this is a good thing. People barely even use gifts for reselling stuff.

>>375908385
Canada.

>>375908290
>Want to gift a game to your friend
>In his country the price of the game is 4$ higher
>Can't gift the game anymore because jews
Sure is consumer friendly here!

>>375906101

It took them like 5 years to realize hats had value and there was a scam going on around them.

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>>375908341
Welcome to the new steam gifting system

>>375908345
No its still shit.
They are totally diffrent markets.
It does not hold

>>375908401
I don't get it. Aren't most games in Canada more expensive? What games did you try to gift?

Steam needs to fucking die

5 years ago steam was perfect and now its infested with jews, redditors, russian scammers etc..

im going back to pirating

>>375908329
I didn't bought Russian gifts tho. I bought KEYS for literally 10% of my regions price.

>>375907998
I recognize that trash game, sold my awoo to buy a real game

>>375908496
Yes the want to stop that

>>375908493
>Gaben is literally 'Big Brother' he probably died a few years ago due to being a fatarse and ever since the company has just gone down the drain.

>>375908496
You mean keys at 36 bux instead of 40 bux?

>>375906289
>implying anyone on /v/ actually makes games
insanely retarded comeback, sorry pal

>>375908492
Uhh, Terraria, the curious expedition, huniepop, Hyper light drifter, and a couple of others.

Literally everything I try.

>>375908572
its ultimate arena, got the game for free from the dev on a thread and he's a cool guy if you were able to get an awoo and free gaems

>>375908659
Those games are apparently 19.77% cheaper in Canada. I wonder if that means starting 15% difference is the block.

Isn't this only benefiting hues and russians since they're the only ones that can still receive gifts from everywhere? How steep is the price difference limit?

>>375908803
10%

>>375908794
They should probably update it to be 20 or 30% then, because this is ridiculous.

>>375908803
Very small as we can see.

>>375908803
See >>375908794
19.77% is still too much.

When can we expect Early Access to fuck off?

Oh that's right, if companies scam you it's ok.

Fuck Valve, what the fuck happened...

>>375908783
Same, but it's still a blatant non-game only made to sell the trump and awoo emoticons

I gifted Brink to an Australian friend of mine back when it came out. For some reason, the game was like $70 or $80 for him on Steam, while it was $50 for us Americans. So I bought and gifted it to him to help him out.

Later on, he returned the favor by buying me Fable 3, which strangely enough was $50 in the U.S. and $50 in Australia. Assuming that the American Dollar is stronger than the Australian Dollar, Fable 3 was cheaper for him, right?

>>375905723
>PCu-cks defended this
So you mean shitty cashgrab games like depression quest need to be of actual quality so they can recoup the $5k outlay? That's good. Steam Greenlight is the cancer of PC gaming.

>>375908628
More like 4,99 instead of 39,99

>>375908885
Its clever though, i applaud the faggot

>>375908865
Its not sure scam if you know what you are getting into.
You are warned

>>375908595
Then why do they act against gifting?

>>375908918
Depression Quest is free to be fair.

>>375908947
Then fuck you. Wait for a sale instead of ripping off the devs by using russian resellers.

>>375909009
baby steps

>averege yearly income in USA is $50,756
>new game cost 60$ on Steam

>averege yearly income in my country is $9,000
>new game cost 60$ on Steam

explain this Steamcucks

>>375909087
Sucks to be you

>>375908958
He is lucky it slipped through the radar enough that he didn't get sued for selling those emoticons. Wonder how much he earned overall

>>375908993

Early Access means the game will eventually get a final release. It's not the case for all Early Access.

>>375909070
>tfw even during the sales it's cheaper from resellers

>>375909087
>new game is 60€
that's even worse because € > $

>>375909103
good goy, 0.03$ has been deposited to your Steam wallet

>>375909113
>Early Access means the game will eventually get a final release.
Like DayZ?

>>375906867
le contrarian meme

>>375908898
Aus store uses USD$
But it has different values for some games.

Valve Games are the same
http://store.steampowered.com/app/730/CounterStrike_Global_Offensive/?cc=us
http://store.steampowered.com/app/730/CounterStrike_Global_Offensive/?cc=au

But not all games are, here Fallout 4 is USD$20 more expensive in Australia, even though there is no tax on it or reason as to why they should charge Australia an extra $20.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/377160/Fallout_4/?cc=us
http://store.steampowered.com/app/377160/Fallout_4/?cc=au

CSGO can be gifted across US/AUS Borders
As of today, Fallout 4 can not.

>>375909135
Sales on steam are so fucking worthless nowdays.

>>375909070
Fucking hop in the oven, kike.

>>375909009
Because you are not paying in your nations currency

>>375909107
>how much he keeps earning
That shit is still selling

>>375909043

It became free after the whole controversy ordeal.

But it had a price before then.

>Steamdrones are literally defending jews

what a time to be alive

>>375905431
Good, fuck key resellers. Thank fuck they're finally doing something to combat it.

>>375909087
I remember when devs and pubs memed digital downloads as paving the way for cheaper games since publishing costs due to less requirement for materials for physical copies.

OH WAIT

>>375909162
Bye retard.

>>375909087
The EU

>>375909160
That's probably because CSGO goes dirt cheap on sales, a lot of its revenue comes from market key sales and stuff. I'm honestly surprised it isn't F2P.

>>375909214
>>375909215
time traveling?

>>375908465
it does hold perfectly

>>375909113
No it doesn't
It says very clearly you are delving with development and warns you.

>>375909253
>I'm honestly surprised it isn't F2P.
To prevent cheating which still happens a lot

>>375909070
>give money to the developers
>ripping them off

They should have realized before charging me an inflated price that trade across borders is free.

>>375909087
>average yearly income in my country is $4000
>new games cost between $50 and $80

Fuck my life.

even fucking literal REDDITORS are not defending this, but /v/ sucking Gabes dick as usual

https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/69476m/steam_blog_steam_gifting_changes/

>>375909161
>tfw like 10 years later and I'm still waiting for Oblivion, what is often considered to be the worst of the TES games, to get a cheap price on Steam

I've seen fucking Skyrim Legendary Edition for less than Oblivion GOTY during sales.

>>375909253
It was just an example, all Valve games are priced equally in US and Australia as they should be (as both stores are in USD$)
There are other games too that don't discriminate, SE oddly doesn't for example.

EA doesn't but they charge in AUD$ on Origin (which are fair prices when compared the US price with exchange rate +GST factored in, Steam is USD$ with no GST)

>>375909287
No it doesn't you are fucking stupid

>>375905431
well if they'll sell row copies for more I'm ok with that. I'm not OK with being forced to buy region restricted shit. This is not 50s era

>>375909348
if you don't like it why not stay there, faggot

>>375909330
You don't live in Russia fucktard.

whatever. Not like anyone ever gifts me anything

>>375909348
>$TEAM
clever, I like it

So this is how a monopoly looks.

They can do whatever anti-consumer move they want and you have to be grateful.

When will Total Biscuit make an 1h video explaining how this is pro consumer and that Steam is based as fuck?

>>375905649
My gf lives in Germany so all the games she buys over steam herself are in German, and with some games you can't even change it to English and are hit with a fuck ton of censorship (Like with New Vegas) so the only option for her to play games normally is for me to gift them to her account.

>>375905431
huh does this affect ROW games?

>>375908306
>What the fuck is 4 packs?
>game is coop game
>want to play with buddies
>if you buy a 4 pack it's cheaper than individual copies

>>375909686
jesus it's better to pirate and get a proper version

>>375909686
This is unfortunate but is no one's fault but those who choose to abuse the system.

>>375909485
Why does everyone parrot this meme about Russian games?
You haven't been able to gift like that in years, nor have you been able to activate CIS region games without using a VPN.

Who this does affect is Europeans and Australians, who could previously get around artificially inflated prices of local versions by buying have US versions gifted to them by friends in the US (typically paying the person the value via some other means or trading)

see >>375909160
As an ample Fallout 4 is USD$20 more expensive in Australia, both stores are in USD$, neither have tax applied.

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>Still buying games from that fatfuck's store

>>375909796
Our censorship laws are fucked.

It's the one reason I want games to be recognized as art. Art is exempt from censorship. We'd finally get normal fucking games.

>>375909860
it's like japanese porn, time to get rid of this post ww2 crap

>>375909796
Yeah. Germany's extremely hostile to anyone who doesn't speak German and doesn't abide to a mountain of draconian censorship laws from an autocratic government.

It's quite ironic that they're preaching for "European Unity" while essentially telling every other European national to fuck off.

>>375909941
Third rail issue. Forget it.

>>375909742
Gifts, yes, but only if the value is 10% different.
see: >>375909160
If the value is within 10% you can still gift to other regions ROW keys on (most are now locked down too, check steamdb for the appid and supported regions, if your EU you can also use it to see price differences, if AUS, use the method shown in the linked post since steamdb doesn't show AUS prices)

>>375909820
Makes me remember when Gaben was shilling us with his "if you make a great a great service people will stop pirating" bullshit lines.

Now its, "we are so big so we can do whatever the fuck we want, fuck the customers, they will keep buying our shit, and if they don't we'll make paid mods".

>>375910003
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

Time to move on.

>>375909941
It's not even about WW2, it's just that the government doesn't trust its people not to commit mass murders because they saw a splatter of digital blood on their monitor.

Also they dub everything into German with no option of reverting to the original language, be it in movies or games. I have no idea why they do that, but most Germans don't seem to have a problem with that until you explicitly point it out to them, so it's unlikely that anything is going to change any time soon.

>>375909947
>>375909860
Maybe you guys at least have proper voice actors. Imagine being forced to play in russian even if it's not your state language and they have like 4 voice actors who barely can open their mouths. THIS is why I'm forced to buy ROW versions from g2a and the likes

>>375910003
They are not doing anything wrong here.

>>375909947
If I had to take a wild guess on what is happening there, all I can say is I think within the next 20 years Germany will restore the Monarchy and a whole new set of pogroms will begin.

>>375910080
Where are you from? I'm from Estonia and everything here is in its original language, even though everyone in the west thinks we're Russians.

Looks like I wont be needing Steam anymore.

>>375906045
It's not our fault your country sucks balls.

>>375905431

>When there is a large difference in pricing between countries, gifting won't be available and you'll know before purchase.

This doesn't really change anything, pretty much all of the games from cheap regions (mainly Russia) are already restricted and cannot be activated outside of their regions.
This just means now you cannot send it as opposed to being able to send it, but the recipient being unable to play it.

>>375910531
It does though, I can't send gifts from Canada to the states now, and they can't seem to send to england.

They literally disabled all intercountry gifting.

>>375910531
Dude the difference is like 10%

>>375905879
How is this a bad change? Greenlight is cancer.

>>375910574
Well, that looks like another change in policy that they sneaked in unannounced.
It says "large difference in pricing", I doubt Canada/US/UK fall into that.

>>375910585
5 euros is literally 2 hours of work for me

>>375910767
It does, please read other posts in the thread

>>375906552
That's no longer true. New games used to be 40€ where I live, now I have to pay 60€.

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>>375910574
>>375910767
Here are the prices of Prey (I guess its the hottest new shit on steam at the moment) as compared to Canadian.
2% definitely doesn't seem like a "large difference"

>>375906552
Nier Auto is 60+ usd, here in SEA

>>375910803
Yeah because the removed EU tiers.
Blame the government for that one.

>>375910894
So just like the rest of the world?

>>375910892
wtf colombia, are they betting on drug money or what

>>375910937
Yeah, there's no regional pricing for nier auto whereas most of the games in steam have regional pricing

>>375910974
Brazil is surprisingly high as well. They're typically at the same tier as Russia

>>375911020
>>375906552
Steamdb exists you niggers
https://steamdb.info/app/524220/

>>375911057
No, it never got that low. Russia is a whole different deal.

>>375910892
doesn't show AUS prices (since the SteamDB developer is a dick)
http://store.steampowered.com/app/480490/Prey/?cc=us
http://store.steampowered.com/app/480490/Prey/?cc=au

Australia is paying USD$79.95 vs USA paying USD$59.99
USD$19.96 more.

>>375911057
I dont understand, shouldnt the number be -24.61% and cheaper there ? because of the harsh living condition in brazil.

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>Business decision fucks over leafs and aussiefags

Based valve corporation, ourrest of guys.

>be member of the union of yuropeon cuckolds
>have VAT tax on your cucked whites
>try to evade tax by buying keys
>get BTFO

wew

>>375909087
your fault for being from the third world
thirdies aren't people

>>375911319
Keys are still fine.
This doesn't hurt the keysellers on G2A and the like one bit... since they don't give gifts they have cdkeys.
It hurts people with friends across regional boundaries in the western world.

>>375911370
Your society is so feminised that when you finally face a real threat to your country's security, you'll crumble like a wet paper bag.

>>375911370
woaw very informative
such angst

>>375911415
i'm not yuro kid

>>375911446
I know. Yankees are no exception.

>>375911443
2012 called
they want their shitposts back

>>375911593
no u

>>375911664
i just lolled for real right now

The list of concerns so far:

>Users from poorer regions are going to have more difficulty getting games that they can afford (due to closing regional gift stockpiling). Solution: Open up more countries to regional pricing - developers who price their games fairly will be rewarded with not having their game pirated.

>Users can no longer stockpile games on sale/pricing errors. This is working exactly as intended for game devs - many were afraid of putting their game on sale as it permanently reduces their value. We might even see better sales because of this, time will tell.

>Users from significantly cheaper game regions can no longer gift to the expensive regions. Solution: allow them to pay the ROW price when gifting like they would do normally when trading gifts from cheap regions to expensive regions.

Am I missing anything here?

>>375911814
>laugh out loudled

>>375908446
>2014
but early access games that release and end up not being what you wanted you are fully entitled to a refund no matter how many hours you put in.

t. refunded kf2 with 2 hours when it was """released""""

>>375911943
>Users can no longer stockpile games on sale/pricing errors. This is working exactly as intended for game devs - many were afraid of putting their game on sale as it permanently reduces their value. We might even see better sales because of this, time will tell.
and you want more people to buy games and never play them? that shit is gay as fuck

>can't circumvent region based censoring

>>375911973
i know about that, got so many of my friends to refund that piece of shit

>>375911956

ATM Machine
>>375912089

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I got a copy of Dankest Dungeon that is restricted to Saudi Arab, anyone want it?

>>375912154

I'll go ahead and take it

[email protected]

>>375905879
The fee hasn't been decided yet, unless you have a source to prove otherwise

This is fucking retarded. What about devs that sell multipacks on the steam platform itself so people can buy games for their friends? I bought a 4-pack of 100% OJ ages ago, and now I've got two copies that I can't gift to people outside my country because a 10% price difference is fucking nothing for games below $10.

Way to fuck over non-AAA devs and non-American customers because "MUH RESELLERS" you fucking ugly fat kike.

>>375912147
does it count if I only hovered?

>>375909407
kek you lost

>>375912186
Only if you're from Saudi Arab. Also how do I send it to you through email?

>>375912696

oh, i'm not from oil land, never mind. and you can send to email with any existing gifts in your inventory by just clicking on send gift. you get the option to send gifts there to emails or someone on your friend list.

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>pre-2008
>be europoor
>buy game on steam
>be charged in US dollar
>your bank works out price in your local currency and charges the correct amount
>prices on steam work out about the same as brick and mortar shops
>everything pretty gud m8

>post-2008
>steam stops allowing europoors to pay in US dollar
>introduce new "euro" regional prices on all games
>say it's to make it "easier" for europoors when buying
>they actually just price hike everything by +50%
>games are now twice as expensive on steam than buying in overpriced $60 shitholes like gamestop

Haven't used steam since 2008, feels good man. Steam has always hated us eurofags

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>>375909232
I fucking believed that shit too

>>375905431
>restricts game gifting to only your country
> not going after g2a cause people sell mostly cd keys instead of gifts
How does valve function properly? You think with how much they fuck up, you think they shit themselves and close down by now.

>>375905961
>Globalization is only meant to profit multinational companies and not benefit individuals

Scammers scamming Scammers

>>375905910
That's not what the article said, dumbass.

>>375914376
Doesn't matter, region lock has been in place for years. Most of the world can't gift games to other countries.

This is almost certainly just a first step. They'll go after keys and resellers next.

I bet all those Chink shit key selling websites are crapping their pants right now.

>>375905431
Haha! Poorfags subhumans won't play games anymore!

>>375914871
>America can't gift to aus
I guess you are admitting you are poor?

>>375912154
>gifting sandniggers

Get rid of that copy.

>>375909087
Kill yourself, subhuman shitstain! I hope your uncivilized country dies fast.

>>375911370
This. Why is it now bad to kill third world subhumans such as Serbs, Chinks, Slavs, Hues?

>>375907551
People on trading sites were selling 1 copy of the game with reduced price if the buyer would give them the other 3 copies of the game after they unpack it
> but the buyer could just block them and keep the 3 copies?
That's why the seller sell they pack as a 4 pack. So what happens is this, seller sell pack for 40 keys for all copies or 10 keys for 1, buyer trade 40 keys for game pack then unlock it, when he do that he will get one copy to his account and the other 3 will be in his inventory, he then do another trade with the buyer where he give them the 3 copies for his 30 keys
> but why do all of this if you just want 1 copy?
Because if you buy 1 copy the price will be higher like 12 keys instead

>>375912959
Too bad you are a subhuman Yuropoor.

>>375907998
>spending several real dollars for a virtual emote only useful for e-peen

I don't understand people.

Steam DOWN.... kek

>>375912959
>haven't used steam since 2008, feels good man. Steam has always hated us eurofags
Good! Yuros are cancer that needs to die.

>Organise Guild Secret Santa every year
>20+ people gift me games to my inventory and I distribute them on the 25th
>Probably spend between 200-500bux every year doing this, as well as it being great fun
>Lost sales, lost fun
Thanks Gabe, I know we weren't the only people to do something like this.

>>375914908
Fuck off!

>>375912154
From saudi but not sure if i will like it, i usually play rougelike games for a couple of hours then uninstall and never get back to them

>>375913218
Still makes me mad

>>375915476
IIRC vinesauce also did this and it was pretty popular

>>375915779
vinesauce is literally /v/, no need to spoiler it as only newfags are bothered by it

>>375915982
don't want to start eceleb drama shit
also it's no longer /v/, large majority of viewers have never even heard of /v/ and only know it from the youtube highlights

>>375905431
They're geofencing. You'll have to have a few accounts and a VPN now.

>>375905723
>Greenlight

Who the fuck defended that? It was all shit