persona 3

>>375900767
No, 3 is garbage

>Gameplay
5 > 3
>Story
3 > 5
>Music
Debatable

>>375900809
Nice meme senpai xD Finna kys desu lol

>>375900863
you can cry all you want but it still is true

>>375900767
>many say the 3 is better tho
Nostalgia is a powerful delusion.

5 > 3 > 4

>>375900767
3 is pretty good. Its not perfect and it has its share of flaws but I enjoyed it more than 4.

P3 had the best story of the three modern Persona games. Only thing is, it's the type of thing that may feel dated after having played 5. Even the jump from 3 to 4 felt huge.

>>375900850
>>375902241
Persona 3's story is horribly paced. It has long stretches of nothing really happening and then tries to drop several bombshells on you in a row.

2>3>5>1>4

Music:
P5 > P4 > P3

Gameplay:
P5 > P4 > P3

Main cast:
P5 > P4 = P3

Story:
P5 = P4 = P3 (none are good)

Really makes you think

Saying that P4 is better than P3 is a sign of someone either being a manchild or coming straight from rebbit.

>>375902782
To be fair the theme is nice. But that's about it.

>>375902782
Yeah boy I sure do love the endless grind of a shitty dungeon with party members who will kill themselves by using shitty predefined orders instead of being able to control them, coupled with enemies that are loaded up on instant death spells that can wipe your entire party just in case they haven't decided to commit suicide that turn.

Oh wait, I fucking don't.

any one who emulated smt 3 nocturne here recently?
i get my map fucked on hardware renders and only software seems to unfuck it but i don't want to play without higher resolution.

>>375902906
>instead of being able to control them,
>Le FES is better meme

>>375900850
i had to force myself to get through certain parts of P3. with P4 and P5 i locked myself in my room for days. i think that says it all for personally. good thing i have my own opinion and it doesnt matter what others think

>>375902670
Wow anon you have shit taste in, well, everything

Kill yourself

>>375902906
>I sure do love the endless grind of a shitty dungeon
You just described P4 though. Tartarus is manageable, and if you want to be a baby who wants an easy game to become even easier, play P3P.

>>375900767
Music: 4 > 3 >>> 5
Story: 3 > 4 >5
Gameplay: 4 > 3 > 5
'Dungeons': 5 > 4 > 3

Why can't you faggots be reasonable just once?
I mean seriously, people might want to actually play these games.

>>375900767
I preferred 3. Even the gameplay.

>>375902782
Yeah, playing a game with no story for 70% of the game, and when it does get an interesting story nothing happens for 2 months, is great.
You have to be 18+ to post here

5 > 4 > 3

It's easily the worst, give it a shot anyway

>>375903291
Then why are they asking for opinions on what is undeniably the most toxic, cancerous message board on the planet?

Persona 3 is damn good if you play the definitive version (P3P FeMC)

>>375900767
If you're a teenager going through a phase, you'll love the story, like a lot of people ITT do.
Otherwise, you ruined it for yourself. Anybody getting into the series should start with P3 just because playing P4 or P5 will make the battle system and Tartarus even less bearable in comparison.

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>>375903291
>Why can't you faggots be reasonable just once?

>>375903121
P4 is structurally similar to P3, but it at least changes up its environments. Tartarus is a god damn slog where it's easy to lose progress, resulting in severe repetition.

>if you want to be a baby who wants an easy game to become even easier
How about you stop acting like you're some kind of badass for playing FES or regular P3? It's not that it's difficult, it's that it's inconvenient as fuck down to its very core. P3 was a mistake. You have:
1. Enemies that can and will randomly kill your party members (and you, unless you fuse and equip the right personas)
2. Party members that do incredibly inefficient things, resulting in massive SP wastes and item wastes once you have to start reviving them
3. Randomly selected fusion skills, so even when you DO go to fuse a good persona you end up getting fucked by RNG for a good 15 minutes just trying to get the skill carry-over you were after
4. Hilariously, MASSIVE amounts of excess money from random chests, which trivializes buying new equipment instead of being balanced

And these are just mechanics. None of these touch on the writing.

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>>375903349
>FeMC

>>375902457
>long stretches of nothing and then bombshells
That's P5 too. You go like 3 weeks at a time with literally nothing happening before getting railroaded into the plot super hard for a week.

You like an edgy cast?
You like grinding in Tartarus?
You like having a waifu who is a fucking android?
You like dying at the end?

Persona 3 is for you.

No, Persona 5 is better on almost every single level.

I enjoyed my time with 3, but I can't say it's great as a game. Tartarus is a fucking slog, and the boss design is terrible. The plot's pacing is also pretty bad, it feels like almost all of the actual story is shoved into the last few months. The rest is just going through the motions with something like strega occasionally showing up to be mysterious and vaguely threatening.

The characters are all pretty strong I think, but again, it feels like all their development is shoved into the end. Many people complain about party member s links not affecting the main plot enough in 4 and 5, but 3 has the inverse problem where because all development happens in the main story the party member s links are dull and trivial. Especially Fuuka, who barely has a personality to begin with.

>>375903492
Were talking months for P3.

>>375903492
When? you have a fixed amount of days to accomplish a heist, then left over, then momentos.

Once you complete your palace you have one or two cut scenes and then you're back to your next heist.

>>375902457
Honestly because of the calendar system 3, 4, and 5 all have this problem. Having the day-to-day time management isn't particularly conducive to a well paced story.

>>375902670
Correct Rankings

Music:
P4 > P3 > P5

Gameplay:
P5 > P4 > P3

Main cast:
P4 > P5 > P3

Story:
P5 > P4 > P3

>>375903229
How does it feel to have such a shit opinion?

>>375903492
P3 was better about it because everything was building up to the big looming monthly encounter, with some side stuff being introduced here and there.

P5 has you rushing through dungeons in two days and having absolutely fuck all for story aside from increasingly contrived and annoying texts for the remaining weeks. Then at the end you're just bombarded by cutscenes.

>>375903620
If you have half an idea of how to play Persona or any JRPG then you're going to complete every Palace in 1-2 days and stockpile mementos requests so you only have to go in once a month or two.
Which leaves you with several weeks of literally nothing happening in he story until the deadline comes and it's PLOTPLOTPLOT for a few days before he pattern repeats.

Ask somebody who taught English in the town that Persona 4 is based off of anything.

>>375903851
Did you throw kids in tvs when they failed a test?

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>>375903705
>P4 cast over 5 and 3
The rest of your post is wrong as well, but that's the standout terrible opinion.

>>375903851
Is Adachi a total bro in real life too?

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>>375903765

>>375903851
You fuck Nanako?

>>375903895

No, but I did give them KFC stickers which they went bananas over.

>>375903959

I didn't get to meet him unfortunately.

>>375903851
Is the town like Twin Peaks?

>>375904069

I haven't seen Twin Peaks, but it's a very quiet, homely town and most people recognize you, especially when you're a big foreign ape. They love wine (since it's what the place is mostly known for, besides some historical stuff) and people there are really friendly and ask tonnes of questions.

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>>375900767
3 is better if being a sociopathic shut-in type character is appealing to you (your on /v/, who are we kidding here).
The atmosphere in 3 is a lot more desperate and dark.

>>375900767
Depends on what you're looking for.

3 is probably the only video game I've ever played that had an emotional impact on me. And I don't even like weebshit normally.

>>375900767
3 isn't even better than 4.

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>>375900850
I just lost 30min of progress because enemy hit my weakness and then fuckin did it again. I hate that, same goes for me exploiting enemies over and over. That aspect sucks.

Persona 4 and 5 are lighthearted VN's with easy casual dungeon crawling.
They are basically games for faggots.

>>375903793
That monthly encounter was only good during the first part with the Shadows. After that it was very, very boring.

>>375904525
>lighthearted

>>375904510
Enemies with 1-hit kills rolling natural 20's are fantastic.

>>375904525
I really wouldn't call 5 that lighthearted. There's a suicide attempt in the first few hours of the game.

>>375904696
And P4 is lighthearted for having 2 murders in an hour? From what I've played of P5 so far (admittedly not much) it is not as dark as P4, and of course not darker than P3. It's probably P1 level of dark.

>>375900767
The story is kinda crap, but the characters are interesting and their social interactions are endearing. Combat in the FES version is tactically interesting because you have to anticipate your allies as well as your enemies. Thematically it is pretty good too. Aigis is love.

>>375904665
>>375904510
That's why in the pyramid you catch a naga or whatever the snake lady is and use it against Anubis groups and the likes, the counter to them is in this very dungeon. after 3 megido that result in no SP left you're free to rush everything and they can't even attack you anymore.

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>>375904665
>Not having a null curse/holy persona for those areas of the game
Basically everything about the gameplay in Persona is about preparation. Its like you are complaining about how Portal makes you solve so many puzzles.

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>>375900767
With 3 I ended up feeling quite the connection with every of it's characters (maybe except for nerd friend of gun jesus) which for me is the most important part of these series.
The best thing about persona games is slowly building a deep relationship with your friends, get to know them and whatnot and I ended up feeling very empathetic towards characters that I first disliked. About mid-game in, the whole cast go through a very tragic event and being with them at those moments was the most empathetic I've ever felt with a videogame, to a point that I didn't know it was even possible for me to feel that in this medium or in real life even.

You can say whatever about the gameplay or the music. I personally think the gameplay is bad in all the games and in most jrpgs.
The tone, the relationship building and feeling like the characters act like real people is what it's going to stuck in my mind for years to come. Which is kind of funny considering that you can't hang out with most of your party outside main events.

>>375905061
>he felt a connection with the moon arcana

what the fuck man

>>375900767
It's not. Don't listen to nostalgia fags. The drama is contrived and the story bits are paced horribly like how everyone in this thread has been saying.

P3 fags usually just shit up a thread with the usual 3>5>4 and leave with no argument whatsoever that's why threads like this usually die. For some they write a blog on how P3 reflects their life so much which CRINGE as fuck.

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>>375905883
>threads usually die, yet here we are

>>375903793
P3 had absolutely fucking nothing going for it story wise until Aigis pops up and then it ramps up heavily in the final moments.

Both Persona 4 and 5 had a better engagement during the first 2/3 of their story and had far better pacing while Persona 3 got the better ending.

>>375905883
although at least it resulted in this, which is great
http://orig01.deviantart.net/e016/f/2010/162/e/0/how_not_to_play_persona_3_by_ancret.jpg

SOME DANCES WANNA PUT YOU IN A TRANCE

LET'S PARTY, LET THE BOOGIE HIT YOUR BODY

MOVE EVERYBODY, MOVE THAT BODY, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HURT NOBODY

I SAY, HEY HEY HEY

why is Persona 3's music so fucking strange?

>>375906759
Thanks, it's playing in my head again now

>>375906759
Because it was 2006

i want to fuck an aigis

>>375906969
Answerfags need to leave

>>375907062
Answerfags want to fuck (the superior) Metis

>>375907304
Said nobody ever

>>375900767
> Here's a tower with 250~ floors have fun

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>>375900880

play it, find out for yourself

P3fags literally only remember the last month of the game because that's the only time anything even happens. It took until the last month to even have a story.

Fuck dude so much of that game had to be explained via spin offs, a pseudo sequel, official fan books, the data book anthology, and interviews. There's more story outside of the game than in the game itself.

P3 fans are like the people that think the first novel they've ever read is the greatest literary achievement in history.

>>375902670
>Story
>none are good

So you played Persona for the gameplay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXAAqBuaVzc

>tfw

>>375900767
3 has Ken so that knocks back it down a couple of points.

>>375907324
I think I just did :/

>>375903418
>P4 is structurally similar to P3, but it at least changes up its environments. Tartarus is a god damn slog where it's easy to lose progress, resulting in severe repetition.
P4's dungeons are the exact same fucking thing as Tartarus, just streched over a larger area, with some infuriating and honestly pretty pointless puzzles thrown into the mix. I hope you like going to one end of the dungeon, killing a mini-boss, getting a key, and then having to backtrack through the entire fucking way you just came through, just to open a door.
Tartarus is the exact same fucking shit as 4, just with less bullshit, easier to surprise enemies, and easier to traverse floors.
>How about you stop acting like you're some kind of badass for playing FES or regular P3? It's not that it's difficult, it's that it's inconvenient as fuck down to its very core.
You want to talk about inconvenience? P4's dungeons usually feature around 10 floors, meaning that the jump between difficult enemies is instantaneous. Level three will have easy to defeat shadows, level four all of a sudden has that same mudo spamming assholes that you mentioned as a con in P3.
Healing is incredibly annoying in P4, the fox's prices are really high and you have to waste fucking social linking time to get him to lower it. Which, at 10 SL, is still going to be high as fuck and tedious to deal with.
>Randomly selected fusion skills, so even when you DO go to fuse a good persona you end up getting fucked by RNG for a good 15 minutes just trying to get the skill carry-over you were after
Stop trying to min-max and deal with what you have. A strong persona is going to be strong and useful in a given situation if you play properly, anyway.
>Party members that do incredibly inefficient things, resulting in massive SP wastes and item wastes once you have to start reviving them
Use tactics.

>>375908956
Yeah, P4's scenes with "funny" humor and people constantly failing to shut the fuck up about how great friendship is, were all really superior. Not to mention the obligatory cutscenes of them taking literally ten minutes to explain shit obvious to the player.

>>375904838
>And P4 is lighthearted for having 2 murders in an hour?

Those were never shown on-screen though while Shiho's suicide attempt was on-screen

A lot of this is probably nostalgia goggles, but I really loved Persona 3. I remember playing 4 and thinking it wasn't quite as good as 3 was. Things from 3 that I liked:

1. The characters. They seemed realistic and multifaceted instead of just being anime tropes, which was massively refreshing and went against my expectations. Junpei especially seemed like a real person that you could relate to in a lot of ways. And they each had their inner struggle that defined them and eventually came to a head based on the course of the story events (instead of being something that the protagonist magically helped them resolve).
2. The story. It was darker and more mysterious than subsequent Persona games. Little atmospheric touches like the creepy boy in the prison jumpsuit, or the fact that the dorm itself had kind of a dark layout and almost had this "spooky mansion" sort of thing going on, especially in the early stages of the story. It never really went goofy like Persona 4 and 5 did in their "word of the subconscious where everything is about your repressed homosexuality" or whatever.
3. Tartarus was just really cool. Better than Mementos which tried doing the same kind of thing. And the Tartarus boss battles (not the story ones) were actually pretty challenging and required you to exploit buffs and use limited use items in order to continue making progress.

P5 did make some improvements though, especially the gameplay stuff and the quality-of-life changes.

>>375910518
>1. The characters

Fuck Ken, he almost ruined Persona 3 for me.

it's the same shit but with worse dungeons who gives a fuck

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>>375908956

Yeah now that I'm older the flaws of P3's storytelling are really obvious. Like when I first played it 10 or whatever years ago the melodramatic edgy story was the coolest thing in the world. But now it's just a little bit too melodramatic and a little bit too serious for its own good, it's awfully paced and honestly I don't really care for many of the characters.

And while I'm here I don't really have much affection for P4's cast either. The game also awkwardly tells you that they're all best friends over and over, but you never really see it expressed. I think P5's cast could've used more moments of just interacting with each other more as friends, but the game doesn't really push that angle as much so it's less of an issue.

>>375909778
he obviously played to romance waifus like everyone else

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they need to bring back enemy persona users

>>375910029
>Ken lives while Shinji dies
What a cruel world we live in.

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>>375900767
Dont listen to retarded edgelords.
P5>P4>P3

>>375910735
>I think P5's cast could've used more moments of just interacting with each other more as friends, but the game doesn't really push that angle as much so it's less of an issue.

see, I missed that a ton in P5. Especially how none of the girls in P5 seemed to be friends with each other. You didn't get any really good friendships like Yukiko/Chie or Yukari/Mitsuru.

I would say 5 is leagues better, but 3 is stilla good game.

>>375902782
At this point it's the other way around now because of people like you perpetuating it so harshly. Yet Persona 4 still manages to destroy Persona 3 in most aspects.

>>375900767
Prepare to be disappointed. The only way you can get through P3 now is Stockholm syndrome or sheer autism. P3P helps but is kinda inferior in how they had to downgrade.

Even if you make it that far you'll never survive The Answer.

>>375903349
>All those bants that she had.
>Male party members literally fighting over you.
>Wearing the slut armours and seeing their reactions.
>The /ss/ porn.
>No more Marin Karin spam.

Truly the greatest work ever, The Answer was a fat load of grindy bullshit anyway.

>>375910802
FUCKING PLEASE
I thought 4 and 5 really missed a trick with that.
Fighting a ONE off Persona user like Adachi and Akechi was okay but it lacked the fun of Streaga.
Sure the Streaga battles weren't that great, but it added diversity to it. Imagine if in 4 Mitsuo or whater the creepy kid was called got a Persona after accepting his Shadow Self but NOT wanting to join the Scooby Doo gang, and actively tried to fight against them and worked with Adachi to stop you? that would have made the game so much better I think

>>375900767

Here's the Power Rankings

2 Duology > 3 >= 5 > 1 > 4

This list takes plot and character quality into account more than anything.

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>>375910867

>>375903598
>Especially Fuuka, who barely has a personality to begin with.
excuse you, Fuuka is a good character

>>375900767
It has great atmosphere and characters, but like all Persona suffer from pacing issues and either too much free time or too much plot time. Format for the games being monster of the week doesn't the help it. The OOL improvements from 5 can make it hard to go back to though. Still a great game that everyone should play.

>>375900767
>is it true
No.

5's gameplay just shoots it so far ahead of 3 and 4, I fucking hate randomised dungeons and Tartarus is such a fucking slog.

I do like 3 and 4 but 5 really improved the series in nearly every way

>>375906898
A different time when game's weren't about 15.99 dlc and always online trash

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>>375914576
I'm replaying 3 now and forgot how terrible the dungeons are. If I don't make it through this replay, it will be because of them.

>>375914705
What does that have to do with the music being weird

>>375914915
Music changes over time. It seems weird because it's been 11 years.

>>375900767
If you like P5 that much, P3 may be worth a playthrough. The gameplay in 3 is extremely archaic compared to 5, though.

>>375900767
Here is a very honest and real opinion:

The overall message of the story is great, but the pacing is not very good, the social link are average, and the gameplay slightly dated but playable.

I recommend playing it, but it's in no way better than P5.

>>375900767
It's a lie, it's just people have better memories of it because it has a way better last month than P5. P5 has better gameplay and the rest of the story is more interesting (once again except the last month which is a borefest compared to P3).

>>375904510
Get an Isis, she's in that dungeon and immune to both bless and curse spells, it's pretty much the only time in the whole game where I had to switch out my Shiki Ougi..

>/v/ hates persona 3 now
what happened

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>>375917223
/v/ and other boards will only get younger, making them dislike older games. Just like I don't care for most games that came out 10+ years before my teenage time around 2000-2006

It's better in some aspects, worse in some.

The problem is, they aspects that are "worse" are quality of life stuff. And it's not minor too.

>Got Persona 3 on the day it came out because I loved SMT 3 and DDS
>Focus so much on the dungeon I didn't really bother with the Social Links
>Fucked myself royally
>Quit
>Played 4 Golden
>Had fun since I understood all the Social Link and other things
>Tried to go back to Persona 3
>Can't deal with not having control over the abilities when fusing and really don't want to play Portable because heard bad things about The Answer but I so want to directly control my party
Persona 3 is such a weird mix bag for me but I really want to try it again

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I really liked P3P.
Romancing best guy as best girl was pretty nice.

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>>375918337
>even if you max him in p3p he'll still die young due to the pills
>you will never be able to save him

>>375918223
Portable fixed all issues with standard 3 and fes

>>375918456
Heard that. Just wondering how badly Answer is since nearly everyone says it somehow ruins everything about Persona 3.

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>>375918454
Maybe, but it's still the best scenario for him.

>>375918570
Well, it's not canon so it doesn't really matter desu. Also you can somewhat choose what abilities go over when fusing in FES, by backing out of the fusion then reconfirming it.

>>375918570
It gets pretty contrived and stupid, but it doesn't really ruin anything. I personally liked the sense of closure it gave at the end.
>>375918751
>not canon
nice meme

>>375918751
I know about that and you could do that in Persona 3 normal. It's based on SMT Nocturne. And while I love Nocturne I can never honestly go back to that because of that shit. Spent way too fucking long canceling and trying again.

so general consensus is
>gameplay
5 >>> 3
>everything else
3 > 5

>>375918852
Not an argument

>>375918898
Then go for portable, that's the only viable option it seems

>>375919069
>Gameplay
5>4G>2>4>3>1
>Story
2>3>1>4 Still not that far in 5 to completely say where it is

>>375914809
pcsx? just give your lvl 99 and skip dungeons

>>375919069
It all comes down to what can you deal with. Can you deal with pacing that makes 5 look perfect? Can you deal with s links that are so dull they make you want to jam a knife in an outlet for something interesting to happen? How about poorly utilized antagonists and bullshit 'twists'? If so go for 3.

Put yes gameplay and design wise 5 shits all over every other previous entry.

Been playing this recently after P5. I had played P3P and got like half(?) way into it before I got distracted by other stuff. Holy shit does the game really expect me to grind this much to be up to par for the bosses? I don't remember having to grind this much in P3P, I was level 20 when fighting the Heirophant+Lovers boss and it said they were level 25, with me jumping all the way up to level 24 once I'd finished it.

Personally,

>Main Cast
P3 = P4 > P5

>Story
P3 > P4 > P5

>Gameplay
P4 > P5 > P3

>Social Links
P4 = P5 > P3

>Music
?????? (All three are amazing)

>>375900850
P3 story IS great
After 50% of the game is over with

>>375900767
P3babbies are sometimes almost as bad as P4fags. Play a real sheeen megamu tenis game

>>375919471
>5 pacing
>perfect
Yep, I fucking loved wandering around with nothing going on for the 2 weeks after doing each palace.

>>375900767
Objectively no, if we're talking about it from a "game" perspective. From a game perspective, I would seriously argue Persona 5 is the best SMT franchise game out, period. It's just really that good.

However, everything else about it is subjective.

>>375919697
That was the joke anon. Congratulations on getting it. I'm saying that 3's pacing was much worse.

>>375919697
>I don't understand English

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>>375919669
I don't understand how people here can say that P3's story was good.
Do you even remember that fucking last month in the game?

I mean, I still liked P3, but you can't say that the story is good.

>>375919629
out of the posts here, about how I feel on the games too. I like 5, I played through 3ng++ but I love 4 more, and have a stronger connection to 3s minato, he was badass.

>>375900767

the only people who say 3 is better are the people who played 3 as their first persona and mary sue loving idiots. Since 3 has the most mary sue of every protag so far.

>>375919757
>Let's not do that today
The pacing in 3 was superior

>>375900850
>Gameplay

5 > 4 > 3


>Story
5 > 4 > 3


>Music
4 > 5 > 3

>>375919917
You could say that about any Persona you thick cunt

>>375919952
It really fucking wasnt.

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There are four enemies!

>>375900767
I'm playing 3 rn, and it's pretty trash. I've played many better JRPGs and I don't even play that many JRPGs.

>>375920049
Why was Fuuka so fucking __cute__?

>>375920017
yeah it was you moron. minato could go and do whatever the fuck he pleased. Joker has to listen to a cat, a fucking cat.

>>375920017
So you prefer being forced to not be able to do what you like? You really don't like being able to do what activities suited you at your own pace and convenience? How strange.

>>375920206
>>375920270
see
>>375919868
for one of the reasons why p3 had shit pacing. p5 had its problems I readily admitted that but even with the railroading and the timeskips at the end the story was still laid out far better than 3 with its heists.

>>375920551
>b-but muh story

What has that got to do with being able to go do what you want when you want senpai

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>>375919406
Yeah, I know. I'm only in June so far and I'm trying to see how far I can make it. I like the boss fights, but the endless floors looking the same are gonna get to me eventually.

>>375920682
Because apparently we have two different interpretations of the term pacing.

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>>375920169

>>375920551
just differences then... as I mentioned, I like 5, even have the plat. but just vastly prefer 4g 3f

>>375920718
yeah. after beating 5 I loaded 3 in pcsx, after first arcana boss, just couldn't bear the dungeons anymore and gave Orpheus megalodian, the autos, and vic cry to stomp stuff.

>>375920682
If that's really true, there is nothing interesting to do in P3. Social Links are crap, there is nothing interesting to find in the city. And well. That's about it if you don't count buying stuff at the stores. Might as well use what time you have to grind! WOW!

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>>375920830
¿Que?

>>375921102
Opinions are like ass holes. We all have one and everyone else's stinks.

Do people not realise that you can lessen the shitty grind of the older games by just selecting easy? Don't worry, nobody is going to be watching g you through your window and plastering all over Facebook how you played a video game on a non default setting.

>>375921102
Kenji banging his teacher is bad?
Or the old people in the bookstore?
Or the real slink with Tanaka, who treats the mc like shit?

the fuck you on

>>375921235
Yeah. Then this discussion should end here. P3fags are trying to say that their game is better and every time in every thread with the same discussion that's the reply they give when someone says the opposite.

>>375910483

You didn't see her hit the ground or anything. That doesn't count as on-screen. In P4 you saw the aftermath of the murder at least, with thr body hanging in the antenna.

>>375921373
citation needed

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P3P cheats let you have an experience multiplier.
I just played the game on x4 the whole way through, didn't grind at all and it still remained at a level where the boss battles were challenging.
Game was fucking great.

>>375903492
The problem with 3 is that most full moons, specially the early ones, don't even have relevant plot to them, it's just kill boss, and that's it. This leads to a few month with literally no relevant plot.
In 5 every palace has relevant plot, this makes every month have a few plot related events. This is why I feel like it flow better.

>>375921553
Sir, I humbly request that you delet this image immediately

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STOP TALKING ABOUT WEEBSHIT

please let's talk about superior western games

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>>375922307

Post more persona memes and screenshots

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>>375922734
ok

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>>375922734

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>>375922734

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>>375922905
Akihiko's love social link is pretty funny actually.
He's a dense motherfucker.

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>>375923031
>that aspect ratio

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>>375920169
It's her hopeful outlook and innocent nature.
Fuuka is very genuine with her feelings and those are usually very warm and tender, which are adorable to see.

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>>375922734
>>375923075

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meh, not as funny now that P5 is out

>>375923108
it's the ws patch. game goes ws, but the portraits cant. wasn't meant for it

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>>375922734
___ ____ _______ ___ ____!

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>no Junpei romance option
How did they fuck up so badly?

>>375923187
I just want to protect her perfect self from the world, is that such a crime?

Haven't finished 5, but its obvious that it has the superior gameplay.
5>3>4

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>>375923371
>wanting to romance a retard

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>>375922734

>>375923371

Funnily there is an ending they cut out from the game where even though Junpei cockblocks you, he later comes around and bangs you after his gf an heroes.
But they felt it too "lore breaking", not even shitting you, so they cut it by the end. Still up on youtube.

>>375900767
3 has the best gameplay easily.

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>>375923563
dude pls stop

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>>375923492
>not wanting to romance best bro
>siding with Yukari
Friendly reminder that Lovers arcana girls are all sluts

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>>375923463
Of course it isn't, anon.
Fuuka is a very caring girl that works hard to make sure everyone around her is happy, wanting to be there for her and return the favor is only natural.

>>375923108
Just finished the first dungeon. Does that shit ever end? I get just eye rolling but he just never stops saying how newbie Ryuji is.

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>>375923756
Junpei on Fuuka

What a bro

>>375923910
No, it does not end.

>>375923945
why is Junpei so based?

>>375919629
I have some issues with the other stuff but you better justify why 4's gameplay beats out 5's.

>>375923945
>being this based
Junpei is the best bro of all time. He should have his own game.

>>375923945
what a misogynistic thing to say!
Junpei is worst boy CONFIRMED

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>>375903349
>FeMC
>can't date Elizabetg

>>375900767
For me, I think 3 has great characters but that might be because I'm also as socially retarded as the cast is. I thought the music was really good and it fit a whole lot more than some songs in 4. Also the final boss theme is fucking beautiful

>>375924108
Liz is not a rug munching degenrate

>>375924108

But you can.

>>375920206
>passing out for a week
>summer school
>mandatory track practice
>randomly getting sick for a week
>etc

>>375924250
>/v/ in a nutshell

>>375924250
is this the gourmet king

>>375924250
wow that's like 3 times more often than i shower

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>>375924398
no, it's actually pic related

>5 copied 4's "send your child off to a relative's house" instead of P3 Dorm which is infinitely superior
They could've even made Potter-kun an intern to play off the whole jail theme even better. I'd much rather drop Sojiro's SLink just to have more interaction with my party.

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>>375924108
Yes you could tho

>>375924528
Sojiro isn't even a relative. That'd make Futaba your family. And you can't romance family!

>>375924594
That poor translation literally just refers to taking her out somewhere, platonically. Did you even play the game?

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>>375924680
I did, though I admit I only ever chose Theo. Superior in every way.

>>375924594
You can go out with guys as the male Mc, doesn't mean you can get into a relationship

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>>375924869

Things P3 does better than 5:
>How relevant characters are to the story
This is a major issue with party Social Links and which I don't think they've really solved yet. Character's in P3's plot actually developed over time, which helps keep you engaged in it. Characters in P5's plot are a lot more limited in this sense since they need to remain consistent between how they act in their S.Links and in the story itself.
>Arguably endgame pacing
This kinda depends on what you count as the endgame. I'd say P5 has it beat if you count the entire month of January in P3 as part of it, but otherwise 5's can drag on a bit too long (largely thanks to Valentines day completely destroying the pacing in P5.)
>Time management aspects
P3 gives you much more freedom in relation to time management shit than P5.

Things P5 does better than P3:
>Story pacing
Other anons have already pointed this out, but P3's story largely doesn't go anywhere and nothing really happens until Mid-July or so, and then the story only really starts to ramp up around October. P5's story is far more evenly paced in that regard, with something of significance happening each month or so, although problems do still remain.
>Combat
P5's combat is not only more streamlined a faster on the whole, but also manages to be more complex than 3's with the introduction of shit like baton-pass and the ability to switch out party members on the fly. Some argue that 3's AI controlled party members make for a more immersive experience, but the option for that is also there in P5 so I see no issue with allowing direct control.
>Dungeons
Dungeons are largely better than the mess that was Tartarus. While Shido's palace is admittedly worse than it due to some questionably lazy design decisions, pretty much every other dungeon is at least quite a bit better than it, and some are simply leagues superior.

There are obviously other aspects of the games that can be compared but I can't be fucked.

>>375926094
The problems with P3's story pacing can easily be explained by Akihiro and Mitsuru keeping secrets from everyone about Tartarus until Yukari does some digging for information and reveals it. Otherwise, her father is really bro-tier and willing to explain everything to the cast.

>>375924054
I'm referring to the battle system more than anything. I feel like the dizzy system and the fact that party formation matters a little more in 4 than 5 (like being able to do team-up attacks and NOT being able to switch out party members mid-battle) gave battles a bit more gravitas and risk-based decision making more interesting.

The dungeons in 5 are obviously more entertaining due to their handcrafted nature, and switching party members out does lead to some interesting turn uses, but the fact that the only way to get an ally or enemy to skip a turn now is to hit them with specific status ailments makes battles more predictable and more frustrating when an attack fails to connect, due to the diminished risk-reward system.

>>375926094
why are you so based anon?

>>375903346
Late, but this is actually what newfags believe lmao

>>375926986
>being this assblasted that you reply to obvious bait that was posted 6 hours ago
Nigger what?

>>375926598
Just because the problems can be explained doesn't really mean they stop being problems.

>>375902241
That's because Persona 3 was written more like a multi-seasoned anime instead of events happening in real world time.

>>375926845
A strong, character building upbringing.

>>375926094
You pretty much nailed the issues with the 2 games. I'd just like to add the imo the S.link for party members were an good addition to the series, even if they do make the character development for some members a mess, Ryuji for example is awful.
But the S.links allow to see some side story to the character that you wouldn't otherwise, while also giving the baton-pass and other gameplay bonuses. The way to fix this, would be making the story change slightly to accommodate the rank of your slink, and by not making some main story points revolve around character acting in some way they wouldn't if they had had the slink development.
Ryuji vs Mona is the one that comes to mind, Rank 10 Ryuji shouldn't act like that. Actually most main story scenes him Ryuji doesn't fit his development in the slink.

>>375900767
I've played 3 through 5, and I rank 5 as the best; however, to say Persona 3 or 4 isn't great is wrong.

Here are the differences where I rank each game

Gameplay
Persona 5 > Persona 3 - Can't control teammates in 3 until the portable

Cutscenes
Persona 5 > Persona 3 - Atlus has made strides in increasing the production values of cutscenes

Characters
Persona 5 > Persona 3 - This is subjective, but I say the overall cast including side characters is better in 5. That said, most of the cast is solid in 3; however, a couple characters such as the kid didn't suck me.

Soundtrack
Persona 3 = Persona 5: Both are great in their own ways.

Story
Persona 3 = Persona 5: Personally I like the more upbeat ending in 4, but in regards to the story in 3 and 5, both are good. Both are darker then 4, and both stories are great

Dungeon Design
Persona 5 > Persona 3: The dark hour is cool, but the dungeon design were just randomly generated floors that mostly look alike. The customized hand crafted dungeons in 5 is a huge improvement over the previous games.

Let me make it clear, both are great. The key reason why Persona 5 is better is mostly because the team takes what they've built, and continue to improve on it every single iteration. The fact I would still rate Persona 3 today an 8.5/9 out of 10 if I replay it says a lot about the series as a whole since I am rating Persona 5 a 10/10. It has a few flaws, but the game is so damn enjoyable that after 70+ hours I want more.

>>375900850
>Music
>Debatable
BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY

>>375928126
>HAIR HAIR HAIR HAIR HAIR

https://youtu.be/DBqJZzESV04

I still love this song, but it's easy to make fun of the lack of lyrics.

You're gonna have a hard time going back to P3 after playing 5. 5 feels way more polished gameplay wise. But god damn that last 20 hours is atmospheric as fuck when https://youtu.be/gA82e2ON3ec starts playing it really gives you a sense that the world is going to end and you can do fuck all about it

>>375927679
Considering Persona 5 especially spends way too much time moving the plot along I think they could have just used that time for character development.

Also remove Haru from the game, I like her as a character but adding a new party member right before the plot is actually going to get going for real is so stupid, even if Atlus were bothering to develop characters they wouldn't have had time to do anything with Haru.

I just want another FeMC. Shit was so much more interesting when I could detach myself fully from the main character.
A male MC always makes the game reek of pandering simulator for inbreds.

>>375927997
Fucking garbage opinion

>>375928858
Atlus will never add another female protagonist. They give Nintendo tier answers for why they can't do it. Persona 4 and 5 only work with a male protagonist, apparently. Also the extra development time isn't worth it.

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Started playing again.
These fucking 2 characters were the absolute worst. This weeb's social link was painful.

>>375903793
Stop the nostalgia goggles. P3 had NOTHING important up until Aigis. The only important one was the first month. The rest had nothing. After getting Aigis, it was another lul until the final 2 months where they dropped everything that was important.

Gameplay sucked as well. 5 is overall better than 3.

>>375929080
Thanks for reminding me about the worst social link fag. I can't stand that French weeb I skipped through all his dialogue while doing his social link

>>375928860
Pats head. You get 3/10 for effort.

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>>375918708
>MC up in the corner
"Good job non-canon."

>>375924108
>Missed the deadline for her first date
>Locked out of any sequential dates
Fuck me. This game is so unforgiving, I've reveresed several s.links just because I said something wrong, even though the answer is clearly the fucking same anyways

>>375929080
Bebe is pure, though. Absolutely no ill intentions and is extremely excited to be your friend.

>>375929545
>not immediately reloading
Eh, most of the personas you get from her aren't THAT great anyway. Hua-Po is pretty good, though.

>>375902527
Great taste

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>>375929636
By the time I noticed the deadline was over it was too late unless I wanted to replay 5 hours.

Also why does the game force you to be a fucking manslut

>>375928813
>Also remove Haru from the game, I like her as a character but adding a new party member right before the plot is actually going to get going for real is so stupid, even if Atlus were bothering to develop characters they wouldn't have had time to do anything with Haru.
If I were a higher up on the Dev team for P5, the way I would've handled Haru would've been to introduce her as an S.Link as soon as your hideout moves away from the Roof. Either leave it up to the player to go back up there and find her or have a scene where you 'forget' about the new meeting spot and you encounter her up there during then. From there she can have Mishima-level presence in the story up until she becomes a party-member proper in September. This would largely fix most of her issues, although her S.Link would either need to be re-written or have a road-block like Sojiro's after a certain rank has been reached.

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>>375929470
Non-cannon-chan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bland MC

>>375929557
It's not so much the guy himself. It's that fucking french accent they stuck to him and that design. There was no need to for a foreign weeb caricature in the game.

>>375926094
>P3 gives you much more freedom in relation to time management shit than P5.

I don't know what you mean by this? To max everything in Persona 3 you literally have to follow a guide, you have one day that's free to do whatever you want. In Persona 5 you can fuck around and still max everything easy.

I like not having direct control of party members. Makes them feel like individuals.

>>375929080
>Tell him goodbye in Japanese is Hasta la Vista
>He starts using it
Bebe is too pure for this world

>>375929890
That I feel is a legit fuck-up, back then they probably thought it'd be popular to be a "player" and didn't even think of giving you the option to not romance but still max the girls.

>>375930070
me too

>people here unironically think P5 is better than P3
ironic-weebs were a mistake

>>375929954
I think he was much better in the japanese version? Like, how he only speaks in formal japanese. Or I may be remembering that wrong.

>>375930115
It's objectively a better video game.

It's up to you which one you like better, though. It depends on what's more important to you.

>>375930070
I couldn't care less about how it feels, I just really like FES's tactics system overall because it works and you can be very specific with more options that keep unlocking throughout the game. No other games with auto-battling AI has been as good, at least none that I've played.

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>>375929954
>Non-cannon-chan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bland MC


False.

>>375929983
What I'm talking about is more to do with how much free-time you have and what you can do with it. While it may be true that P3 requires a guide to do everything in a single run (I'm taking your word for it here, since I never did do that in any playthrough), there aren't as many restricted story days in 3, and the game opens up a whole lot faster as-well. These are little things but it helps.

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>>375930226
In the Japanese version he talks like a samurai but with katakana (meaning like a thick foreign accent)

His dialogue is actually completely different than the English version, if only because there was no way to translate the way he spoke.
I'll post another example.

>>375928278
this song is the shit

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>>375930521
He uses "degozaru" in his speech, which only dorky otakus use too.
I think he was written as annoying on purpose.

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>>375930248
>objectively
>newer therfore better

>>375919868
Why the fuck would killing Ryoji erase everyone's memories? That never made any sense to me

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>>375930070

I loved it.
Like I am not even joking, I loved how mentally challenged the AI was sometimes and how you actually had to anticipate shit like this.
It made the game feel unique.
The moment I got full control of the party in P3P and P4 I breezed through everything like a laughing rollercoaster and it was just not the same.

>>375910735
>The game also awkwardly tells you that they're all best friends over and over, but you never really see it expressed.
Seriously? P4 is miles ahead of P3 and P5 when it comes to showing the party members are actually friends. They're constantly hanging out and just having a great time together. If anything, you should be complaining about this when it comes to P5: we're supposed to believe they're friends and have an unbreakable bond as a team but they hardly ever do shit together.

>>375930519
Oh, I get you now. That's very true. Persona 5's story restricted days can get very annoying, particularly because many of them happen one after the other and for a lot of the one it feels like it could have taken one day

>Lets go to this place
>Nope, we got nothing lets go to the cafe
>Lets go to this place again
>Either they figure it out or they need to leave again, this is the day where they make some sort of breakthrough either way even if it's not to enter the palace or not
>Then usually the day after you might have your evening free to do something if you've maxed Kawakami's Confidant.

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>>375900767
>>>375930070
>
>I loved it.
>Like I am not even joking, I loved how mentally challenged the AI was sometimes and how you actually had to anticipate shit like this.
>It made the game feel unique.
>The moment I got full control of the party in P3P and P4 I breezed through everything like a laughing rollercoaster and it was just not the same.


It really felt like you were leading high schoolers through Tartarus, rather than just playing a bunch of characters.

>>375924841
Is it normal to HNNNNG over a man?

>>375910735
Persona 4 has a lot of friend moments and even social links with other characters in them. Also as much as people hate Marie if you do her social link it usually involves the whole cast being in the scene.

Persona 5 is the worst game for this. Persona 3 you're not supposed to be friends anyways, you're coworkers and you might make some friends while doing it. Persona 4 you're friends and it shows, Persona 5 you're friends and...there's nothing. Everytime you go out and do something with your friends that's supposed to be a bonding moment the game decides to interrupt it with story. Even the texting seems super impersonal, none of them even text like Teens except Futaba when she first entered the group. I'm not asking for Rise and Naoto level texts, but I'm supposed to believe fucking Ryuji texts in full sentences?

>>375930813

To be fair towards P3, they never go around telling you they are actually friends. So at least they are straightforward about that, hell the entirety of FES is how they are all too willing to beat the shit out of one another because the only glue that held them together was the MC and he ain't around to make them stop flipping out.

>>375930893
Smelly neet pussy etc etc

>>375930912
I feel you there, I left AI on for one run through Golden and I had a lot more fun than just "Okay lets just rush him til he dies"
It added something to the gameplay, sure you can't be as tactical and use every character to your advantage but that's fine desu since that's what the tactics option is for

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.....................

IM a total series newcomer playing 3 so I can enjoy it before I play 4 and 5 and then having it feel outdated.
My opinions, if anyone cares:
I like the characters a lot. Junpei is bro tier as fuck. I'm also genuinely interested in the plot, as more and more apathy zombies have been shitting up my world map.
The combat is fun, although the one more time aspect feels a little cheap when I can wipe out an entire quintuplet of enemy's in one go with the right persona power.
Also, I thought joining the kendo club would make me better at swordfightan, but all it's done is give me more commitments and given me flashbacks to dealing with time management in real high school.
Overall I'm having a blast, and if 4 and 5 make 3 look lame in comparison then I can't wait to play them.

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>>375931012

It is if you speak of Theodore.

>>375930248
>objectively a better video game.
>inferior cast, OST, diffculty, and atmosphere

For all the shit P3 gets about nothing happening in the story until the last few months, I actually found that to be one of its better points.
You could actually play the dungeon crawler/time management game without the game throwing you into a week where you can't do jackshit excepting spending 2 hours seeing the characters trying to move the plot forward despite the obviousness of what's going to happen next.

Okay but name a Persona song better than Heartful Cry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wi1Y8cmjyM

>>375931237
Be prepared for 4 to disappoint, but 5 is excellent

>>375930664
So you're just going to ignore all of the gameplay improvements the series has made since the release of Persona 3 and Persona 5, then? This comparison would work if it's a series that had good gameplay originally and at most is making some QOL improvements.

>>375931319
That kind of goes back to me saying what's more important to you, considering all of what you posted is subjective, aside from the difficulty which really isn't true. Both are really easy.

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>playing through persona 3 right now, first time
>Three Magical Maguses as a bossfight
>their ice shit deals 2/3 of everyone's HP globally, one hit KO if someone is weak
>junpei is too fucking retarded to use fire on them because fuuka's support doesn't show it even though i'm using fire and it clearly shows they're weak to it
>doesn't matter anyway because dude deflect lmao
>pick a persona with null on ice to somewhat tank them
>they instantly delete my ice resistance
>finally after swapping junpei for koromaru and akihiko for aigis and with tons of luck, with one hp left, manage to defeat them
THIS GAME WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>375931428
P2 EP ending theme

>>375931651
Aight that's fair

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>>375931925
Is there a pack with all these transparent images? I see they are numbered.

>>375932036
Just grabbing them from Google.

>>375903598
And Atlus choosing to fucking keep the honorifics in their dubs is fucking annoying, especially when Fuuka takes over for Mitsuru.

>JUNPEI KUN IS SERIOUSLY INJURED
>SENPAI IS BADLY HURT
That shit gets annoying real quick.

>>375931584
If you don't tell Fuuka to scan then the friendly AI doesn't update to their resistances.
Even if the boss doesn't show them to yoy they show up to your party.

>>375931496
golden > 5

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>>375932658
don't you bullshit me, i told fuuka to scan them every time i fought because i thought stuff like that might be happening and THAT STUPID RETARD JUNPEI decided to either spam fucking kill rush or WAIT even though he was set to DO WHATEVER YOU WANT JUST FUCKING DO SOMETHING tactic
Only and ONLY time he used agi he used it again on the same enemy instead of stunning them all

>>375932592
This bait

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>>375923654
I cant trust anyone who says P3 gameplay> P5 gameplay

>Mitsuru learned mind charge
>Mitsuru casts mind charge
>Mitsuru casts tentarafoo/Marin Karin
>Mitsuru attacks, battle ends


Repeat for every non-boss battle, or even some boss battles.

Same goes for your teammates casting break spells, even when the enemy doesn't resist their physical attack, or healing 20HP when the enemy needs one hit to die.


>Attack buff dropped on one person?
>better waste a turn buffing that one person with a Ma-spell
>attack buff runs out on everyone else next turn

>>375932879
Put him on knockdown then?
If after telling Fuuka to scan he waits then either he doesn't have anything he can do or you have him on a weird tactic

>>375932879
I don't get why you don't just set him to "Knock Down". You need to use the tactics because the AI are pretty shit, it infuriates me when I set Junpei to "Act Freely" and he just straight up waited for a turn in the middle of a random battle for no reason.

>>375932967
You're just too dumb for it, Anon-kun.

>>375933039
>>375933043
you think i didn't try putting him on knockdown? When i did it he basically either used his basic slash attacks or fucking WAITED again, only benefit of that was that he scored a crit once or twice
Actually when i finally switched to koromaru because he can actually dodge shit same stuff happened, set him to knockdown and told fuuka to scan, he didn't use agilao but decided to jump around and shank them

>>375932967
Use tactics retard.

>>375933195
then the enemy isn't weak to fire.

5 >= 3 >>>4

>>375933250
they were weak to fire, when i used fire on them for that one all out attack before they wiped us all it worked
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Magical_Magus
Floor 98th, 3 of them

>>375933363
then maybe they put up a Makrakarn wall, that stops teammates from using magic until you destroy the wall.

>>375933239
Or have competent AI?

P4 had both usable tactics, and not brain dead AI.

>>375930665
If I remember right, the fan works states the dark hour is not physically happening. Those are weird hallucinations/fake memories because that's how the kids can comprehend fighting Nyx. Nyx is basically Shub Niggurath, she's some Eldritch shit and her presence is constantly fucking with the town and everyone in it 24/7. So by giving in and doing what Nyx's avatar wants, they just complete the prophecy and are no longer resisting, so they lose the weird Eldritch forbidden knowledge in their brains that they understand as memories of the dark hour. Except for Aigis, whose mind is made of Dusk Plumes which are parts of Nyx's body and so she naturally has that forbidden knowledge. Constructed in the likeness of a human, she still cognitizes it as being the dark hour.

>>375933535
>P4 had usable tactics

P4 didn't even have a standby tactic, tactics in P4 are unusable

>>375933481
I took an ice based persona with null on ice just to disable their shit without me taking damage and they still didn't want to use their fire skills

>>375933587
Then make them target that one with tactics.

>>375933696
there were 3 of them, i tried that once and it was that time when junpei magically decided to use agi just to use it again on the same enemy

>>375933763
Did you analyze them?

>>375933763
i dont know what you're doing wrong but i never had ai issues

>>375933864
YES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>375933897
Neither have i up to this point, they were spot on with abusing enemies' weaknesses, but apparently right before i entered tartarus junpei fell on his fucking head

anyone got tips for merciless difficulty? I just got onto ng+

>>375933763
because the other ones still had their magic walls up

>>375930070
This. It also makes you feel more special because you have to carry the team. Only SP bar that matters is yours.

>>375934220
that's wrong because i ereased it with mabufu

>>375934323
well, I dunno what to tell you, unless you show us the battle itself I have a hard time believing all of that

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Opinions please

http://www.strawpoll.me/12893801

>>375931428
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjF4sCat_O8
>tfw no p3 with more jazz remix

>>375934129
Just don't be dumb, you know what you need for each fight now. I better not catch you without Tarunda.

Alright faggots. I want you to explain to me why so many of you think The Moon from P3 is the worst S.Link.

I understand that he's a cunt, but his social link actually has him growing as a person and generally actually has a decently constructed plot. This puts his S.Link above ones like the Star and Magician, which don't really go anywhere.

Doge > Morgana > Teddy

>>375934693
The best social link is motherfucking Pink Alligator

>>375934779
Objectively correct
Teddie ruined 4 for me

>>375934693
Most /v/ hate moon because he remind /v/ of themselves. Personally Moon king is one of my fav because loser friend with loser and all that stuff fit my high school years

>>375934552
Why is based Junpei even an option, you glorious faggot?

>>375934779
>>375934854
I thought Teddie was really cute. Well, maybe it's just because I'm gay.

>>375934926
I think you mean "beary" cute

>People actually think the misfited group of autists in P3 or the scooby crew of P4 were good or memorable in any way

I will never not be amazed by this.
Junpei was literally the only good party member in both games

P5 has ryuji, morgana, makoto and yuzuke, if you think these characters aren't betters than anyone in the cast of P4 you are fucking crazy

Also the story of P3 was terrible

>>375935012
Akihiko is easily a better character than Yusuke

>>375935012
AKihiko and Mitsuru alone own the P5 cast

>>375934854
>playing with jp voices
>"CHING CHONG NING NONG KUMA"
>"CHIPI CHIPI CHANG CHANG KUMA"
10/10 character will play this videogame again

>>375934926

No, I am down the dick sucking line as well and I would set that little shit aflame until the end of times for making the game an insufferable garbage.
It's just shit taste on your end.

>>375935314
the bear puns in english are much more bearable than the kuma in jp

>>375934693
Because he's a huge cunt and for the most part, you have to put up with him being a huge cunt when the game rewards you for sociopathy. He develops and it's memorable, but I still hate the fat fuck.

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>>375934681
w-why, what would happen if i did have it?

>>375935012
Makoto is garbage. I can't for the life of me understand what people see in her.

For a game that stepped up the waifu interaction, the actual selection of waifus was fucking pitiful. Somehow they made the only good girls the cakes (minus Ohya) but even then it's not a situation where I want to date them, it's because I'm backed into a wall and all the other choices suck so I have to pick.

>>375935012
I only like Morgana and Yusuke.

>>375935502
i liked all the girls...(minus Ohya)