How the fuck do I get good at this game?

>>375895821
hit stuff until it dies
avoiding getting hit will let you hit more often, which means it dies faster

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>>375895821
Use paint balls
Don't get hit
Hit things until they die
Seriously use paint balls
Realize that you're pretty fast compared to most monsters
Don't obsess over HP, obsess over stamina management
Get one or two hits in then back the fuck up.
Use buff cats.

Hit yourself in the head repeatedly with a shovel. That will make you stupid enough to enjoy playing Monster Hunter.

>>375895874
>>375896407
But like, shit nigga, I've been using the default sword (SnS) and everything takes forever to kill and the weapon degrades so quickly.

>>375896512
>Hit yourself in the head repeatedly with a shovel. That will make you stupid enough to enjoy playing Monster Hunter.
What do you mean by this?

Play safe, dont get greedy with landing hits when fighting first time against a monster. Once you get hang of the combat and you are familiar with the mon then you can go more gung ho.

When a monster is raging, focus on dodging as they get reduced damage and hit for a lot more.

Also use traps, capturing is bneficial for some mats and you can avoid fighting a perma enraged monster.

>>375896550
>Using SnS
>Wondering why your damage output is low
Just stick to great swords and abuse draw attacks. Go for fully-charged blows whenever you get a stagger or other opportunity.

>>375896550
Bone SnS or the Metal SnS (forgot the name). Bone weapons degrade quickly early on, but do more damage. Metal weapons are sharper but do less damage early on.

You can repair your weapon of choice with Whetstones. Bring tons of them and use them whenever your weapon starts to "bounce" (run to an area that the monster isn't in).

>>375896674
>>375896706
Should I main something else? Redpill me on Lance and LS?

Also, GS looks so fucking ugly, why in the world would I use that

>>375896550
Try Great Sword.

Look for an opening,
Run up and hit with your sword.
Look for another opening and roll away, sheathe weapon and repeat.

When you start noticing the longer openings you can charge up your sword for higher damage slashes.

It is both insanely effective and will help you to pick up the 'flow' of combat in this series more quickly.

>>375896752

SnS has pretty consistent damage output especially in 4U compared to 3's underwater shitty combat. I'd stick to it, you basically have to get used to attacking 24/7 while dodging every now and then. GS is more about waiting for openings while SnS is just attacking nonstop.

>>375896756
How does it compare to a Lance and Long Sword?

I guess I'll try the GS, but it looks kind of ugly man. How do I get over that?

>>375896674
this

if you're not swinging your giant-ass sword, you're sheathing it

Superman dives save lives, just don't go flopping around all over the place and get hit

Make sure you go for fully charged swings when the monster is stunned or otherwise not going to be moving for a while

Blocking works great, just don't be heavily reliant on it, as you'll still take a little damage and dull your sword pretty fast

>>375896752
All weapons suck for new players. Play whatever feels comfortable to you.

Lance is pretty baller. High damage output and great defence, but your mobility is limited. Not really the best for new players imo.

LS is pretty good for combos, but you might over-extend and lock yourself into an animation while a pissed off chicken dragon charges at you.

GS is a hit and run weapon. Personal favourite, tons of damage, but timing is essential.

>>375896920
Addendum for the charging swings, do not be afraid to cut the charge short to get a hit in

Doing less than your max hit is always preferable to the monster moving and you missing the swing

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>>375896907
Lance is boring as fuck, it's just poke three times, dodge, poke three times, dodge, etc.

Long Sword is lots of fancy slashing and dodge-slashing around, which is a lot of fun, but god fucking help you if you take it online.

And believe me, there's some good-looking Great Swords out there. Give it time.

Above all, practice. Keep grinding. Grinding is the essence on MonHun.

>>375896752
Lance requires you to get used to its side stepping dodges. Remember that stabs with it typically come in threes do a shield counter if you feel cocky enough. Playing lance defensively will make you kill slower than you do with SnS.

LS is the weeb choice, but is pretty fun with its wide swings and range. Maintaining your damage aura is key to achieving optimal DPS, but don't force yourself to do spirit combos if you feel like you won't roll out in time.

GS is fucking majestic and I don't get why you find it ugly. As clunky as it can feel, it allows for more mobility at times, considering the fact that you'll have it sheathed while running around to look for openings. Landing fully-charged blows with multiple GS users can fuck up a monster real quick and stagger it constantly.

You have to learn from your mistakes. If you get hit, you can't blame the game, you have to think about why you got hit, if only for a split second. Don't keep falling for the same thing. Blaming the game is the worst thing that you can do.

Other than that, practice and time.

>>375896907
>I guess I'll try the GS, but it looks kind of ugly man. How do I get over that?
there is no better feeling than landing a fully charged hit with a Great Sword in MH in any game. ever. it's the fucking best.

Lance is also very good. Highly recommend.
Cool thing about lance is there are a couple different ways you can play with it. You can do it evasion style or guard and counter style.

Check out Gaijin Hunter videos on YT he does pretty good explanations as far as breaking down the basics of each weapon.

Side note: SnS is amazing but beginners will never appreciate its versitality. Good damage, good defense, good mobility, and it can use items while drawn.

You gotta try everything else before you can begin to appreciate SnS.

>>375897025
>>375897036
>>375897061
>>375897215
Shit guys, post some good looking GS then. I love how IG looks, but it makes the game way too fucking easy.

If all else fails, use IG and just spam. Red and white extracts are the most that you'll need and you can use whatever combo you want and still deal consistent damage.

>>375897259
>and it can use items while drawn.
Yeah, a huge part of SnS is it's utility.
You don't really have access to bombs, traps, wide-range/lifepowders or a status/element SnS early on in the game to really fully take advantage of.

It's kind of odd it's always seen as the most basic starter weapon.

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>>375897328
This is a personal favorite of mine. The whole battle axe + bludgeon feel really does it for me. Plus, having the highest raw damage stat for GS in the game makes me rock hard.

>>375897328
Basic iron GS looks cool (I really wish you could transmog weapons in XX too instead of just armor)

Fatalis GSs look cool

Epitaph Eternal is another classic

honestly just check Kiranico, they started to add 3D previews for armor and gear now so you can go an see roughly how they look, though keep in mind they will always look better in game

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>>375897328
The sucky part about IG is that it doesn't have a lot of weapons available compared to all the other types

Anyways I always liked the Nercy GS

>>375897551
Attack honed Black Fatalis Blade in 4U beats it out though, right? The neg affinity on Cymmetry means it does less damage overall

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>>375896752
>Also, GS looks so fucking ugly, why in the world would I use that

Man, after the masterpiece that was 4U, Gen was really disappointing.

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Aisha best girl

>Playing Charge Blade
>Read that I should just do X attacks to spend my phials
>Do nothing but ultra bursts

How do I stop doing that

>>375895821
patience
also learn to enjoy the quiet time of picking mushrooms and shit, lest you suffer endless rage doing the guild hall quests

>>375896550
if you're in the early part of the game, more than learning a monster, your first concern should be getting to a weapon with a good amount of green sharpness so you don't bounce that much.

>>375897727
Arts are fun though

>>375897669
>>375897618
Shit, you guys changed my view on GS. I'll try it out, thanks.
>>375897727
OP here. How come?

>>375897727
Oils made me respect SnS.

>>375898047
I haven't played Gen, but it's anime as fuck. Cartoony artstyle and you do trails and explosions every time you swing. Also apparently the new system of arts and styles isn't very fun.

>>375898168
>Cartoony artstyle

It's exactly the same, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>375898168
I thought the arts and the new effects made were neat. It gave the game some style, but the lack of a G-rank really lowered this game for me.

>>375897727
For real though. Village was a complete let down, the new upgrade system was meh, styles felt tacked on (I hope XX reworked/rebalanced them), the cats were underdeveloped, gathering quests, and fuck the lack of G-Rank.

Moofahs and skills were great though.

>>375898047

Generations is basically a downgrade from 4U and it's mostly a nostalgia game with a new component, arts. Which end up being okay mostly. Some new balances introduced in generations also fucked some weapons up, like Gunlance.
Generations 2, or double cross since there's no american release fixes a few things but it's still not on the same par as what 4U was.
4U really felt like modernized MHFU

>>375898291
Well you must be hype for XX then, it adds G rank

When will the switch MH come out and make me buy one?

>>375898340
>rehash of a complete rehash
FUCK YOU CAPCOM YOU FUCKING JEWS, GEN 5 FUCKING WHEN?

>>375898340
Well, I'm not exactly too pumped for another MH release on the 3DS due to the low resolution fucking with my eyes. I'm just praying that they release a new title on the Switch so I can have a reason to buy it.

>>375898340
too bad that also comes with making cats even worse, fucking up progression by having the flagship be a true Elder Dragon like Teo/Cham, and most weapons having worthless HA that can't compete with Absolute Readiness

>>375898424
Actually all the games we get in the west are the rehashes. The moonbros get the regular version, and later the Ultimate version.

We only get the Ultimates (until Generatioms that is).

>>375896752
lance is ddr with the triple back/sidehops. surprisingly mobile and you should always be in the monster's face.

when you get good at hunting a particular monster, the ddr analogy really makes sense because you're pretty much dancing around the monster. even with guard lance.

>>375898334
>>375898340
>>375898424
OP here. Should I even bother with XX, or just play 4U until the inevitable 5/5U?
>modern version of MHFU
what do you mean? I never heard of that game before

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>tfw Proof of a Hero starts playing during a fight

I still get fucking goosebumps every time.

>>375898294
The new upgrade system is a lot better, IMO

>>375898646
stick with 4u for that g rank endgame gear, pick up hammer and drop SnS until you get status element ones like sleep or paralysis

>>375898728
Everyone else is telling me to play GS though. Why Hammer?

>>375898646
MH Freedom Unite, on PSP

>>375898646
Stick with 4U, skip Gen, hop on the XX train if you really wanna

MHFU (Freedom Unite) was the best MH game of the second generation. A lot of folks started with it so it gets a lot of praise.

>>375898802
Hammer is relatively simple, and has decent maneuverability while also dishing out retarded amounts of damage.

Aim for the head, swing for the fences. Not an ounce of mercy.

>>375898646
if you find yourself liking the MH gameplay cycle, each game in the series is worth a couple hundred hours of playtime at least.

4u, gen and xx all have active online. the former you might have to request people to join you in /mhg/, but i'm sure a couple people would be willing to do so.

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>>375898294
Best pet

>>375898802
hammer is pretty simple, high mobility, good damage, KOing monsters and if you don't get rock hard getting a golf swing on a rath head you might be impotent

>>375898867
Landing a golf swing stagger/KO on any large monster makes my dick fucking DIAMONDS.

God, hammer is so satisfying.

>>375898867
>>375898861
>>375898860
I guess, but the Hammer looks pretty ridiculous.

>>375898802

Hammer is a more mobile version of the GS. And instead of cutting tails you stun.
Only problem with hammer is some monster's head are a bitch to get to, and hammer damage is usually stronger when hitting the head.

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>>375898294
>the cats were underdeveloped
They let you play as em and even gave them whole movesets.

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Hammer stronk

>>375898969
I will admit hammer doesn't often lend itself well to fashion hunting, but a good hammer is a powerful asset to any hunting party.

And don't let those Charge Blade bastards tell you otherwise.

>>375896550
SnS is just fine. Don't buy into the element meme and just go for more raw. The only problem is reach, so if you're hunting a monster whose head is really high, you're better off using a different weapon.

>>375898969
>the Hammer looks pretty ridiculous
>in a game with gunlances, switch axes, bug sticks, charge blades, and pretty much anything else

But sure, the hammer looks silly.

>>375898678
I tried to like it, I really did. What ended up happening was every weapon needed a specific ore that you could only get from a specific map in order to upgrade through the tiers. It pissed me off because it was the same for every fucking weapon. It made upgrading things a slog compared to the other games because I knew I'd need a specific ore every time.

Completionist hell I tell ya.

>>375898969
you will naturally gravitate towards your favorite weapon. just remember that some weapons simply don't perform very well against certain monsters. if this happens to you, branch out and try a different weapon.

it'll just take some time, which is part of the fun.

>>375898802
GS is the more popular choice, but it can feel extremely satisfying at times to punish a monster's slip up by smashing it in the head and stunning it for longer durations. Hammer, however, requires you to watch your stamina more with its charge swing mechanic, so it really comes to preference on what you want.

t. GS main

>>375898802
Because everyone will tell you to play their weapon, they are faggots
SnS is just as great as any other weapon

You're complaining you're killing slow, so get a big damage weapon like the GS, Charge Blade, Switch Axe, Hammer, Hunting Horn

SnS probably degrades fast if you block a lot, too. Look for a weapon with large color bars, but know that every time you reach a new color tier the first weapons will always have a small bar (like, the first weapons with blue sharpness will have few of blue and lots of green).
Check weapons here
http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MH4U:_Weapons

Gunlance is basically easy mode in these games. Learn the different types of shelling (single shot with quick reload, full burst, and wyvern fire) and blow the shit out of everything. The shield is amazing and gives you time to learn your enemy's attack pattern and tells, and exploit them.

>>375899125
Uhhhhh that's not really a great complaint.
I thought you were talking about the new interface, and how it can show you which weapons have branching upgrades at certain levels, ect.

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>>375899151
yeah man. sure. the worst weapon in the game is easy mode. i'm guessing you never got very far into G rank, if at all

don't get me wrong, gunlance is a lot of fun. but shelling is terrible after high rank and only serves to lengthen combos the further you go into the game. it's a travesty.

>>375899005
I don't know how to explain it properly. It's like the devs knew what they wanted from the cats, we knew what we wanted from them, but it all fell short. Plus boomerang cats are super effective but boring, but melee cats can't put out proper damage unless they're set up perfectly y'know?

>>375899135
>>375899139
>>375899147
OP here. Honestly, the Lance is the most aesthetically pleasing to me.

But it seems like a pain in the ass to get use to due to limited mobility.
>>375899119
It does. Not sure why you're being passive aggressive, but ok.

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>>375899151
>Gunlance is basically easy mode in these games.

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>>375898657
Easily one of my top vidya themes, it's so fucking good

Especially since it usually kicks in right after you royally push the monster's shit in with the dragonator, it's such a 'Fuck yeah!' moment

On the opposite spectrum, the second part of Gogmazio's theme is one of my top 'OH SHI-' moments

>his music changed, time for phas...wait what is he doing
>WHAT THE FUCK IT CAN FLY
>IS THAT A FUCKING LASER-
>Shitter 1 has fainted
>Shitter 2 has fainted
>Shitter 3 has fainted
>Quest Failed...

>mfw Bombs over Gogmazios

>>375899382
lance is turtle mode, don't fall for the meme

>>375899382
GS, SnS, Hammer are all pretty good novice weapons. Especially GS and especially in 4U.
But honestly you should just try them all out and find which one you're most comfortable with. And you don't have to limit yourself to just one, some weapons might be better than the others for hunting certain monsters. Experiment.

>>375899453
Have no idea what you mean by that

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>>375899440
>Gogmazios' laser

I have never run away from a monster so fucking fast.

Is adept bow still godlike in XX
Kind of want to revive my teo bow file from X

>>375899474
I guess I see where you're coming from, but I like the idea of getting incredibly good at one specific weapon, rather than being mediocre at everything.

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>>375899339
capcom was trying to make a support class and failed, that's all. then people figured out you can shit out damage and things got weird

>>375899382
my man. lance is only immobile at first glance. with charging, shield advances right through attacks towards monsters, backhopping towards them and sidestepping around them, you have plenty of movement options.

don't forget. the monster moves too. and if it's focused on you, the mobility issue is nil. it'll come to you instead. which is what you have a shield for.

>>375899480
lance is slow as all fuck, the change attack is literal garbage that wastes sharpness AND sends other players flying in the air. Not a beginner friendly weapon

>>375899275
Oh no the interface is fine. It's just that for me it all got monotonous because I knew exactly what I needed to get and I'd have to do it for every single weapon I wanted to try/upgrade early on. It was "go to the island for the unique ore, then go to the volcano for the unique ore, ect."

It's one of those small things that really started to nag at me about the game.

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>>375899493
Really now?
t. superman jump tester

>>375899559
Who said anything about mediocre? Become incredibly good at every weapon.

>>375895821
Learn the patterns, every fucking monster has them.

Find a skill set and weapon that synergize well.

Learn to dodge.

Dodge I said.

FUCKING DODGE!

Oh yeah, go gather mats and upgrade as much as possible.

Get some hits in, get out. This isn't tekken where you have to combo everything.

Learn your weapon of choices strengths and weaknesses.

People will shit on you for your weapon choice no matter what you pick so just fucking use what you like.

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>>375899618
That's the easiest thing in the world to dodge, though. With oil dragon you gotta to run like motherfucker up out of the arena and hopefully get to another reason before he literally blows everyone up.

>>375899648
Seems like a lot of time to master everything. How's the Hunting Horn?
>>375899589
>Not a beginner friendly weapon
Oh.

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>>375899589
this is such a strange post. first you mention the lance being slow. then you immediately reference the charge attack which will
a) get you from point a to point b very fast
b) should aim to hit only with the finisher anyway which is very efficient

plus the lance is very beginner friendly since the moveset is straightforward. it's nothing like charge blade.

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>no dual blade mains in the thread
Oi...

>pick a fucking GS
>pick focus
>learn monster patterns
>abuse mounting

congratulations you already beaten 90% of the game

>>375899589
True, lance isn't a novice friendly weapon. It does have two main playstyles though:

Turtle Lancing: Stack Guard Up and let shit wail on you while you stay nice and cozy.

Evade Lancing: DDR. Dodge, counter attack, dodge, counter attack, block whenever you need to. Uses Evade up skills.

>>375899878
OP here. Sorry, but I just hate fast swords like that. Too flimsy.

>>375899589
Lance is only slow when you don't realize that almost all of your mobility comes from pressing buttons rather than walking around. There's a learning curve for sure but I managed fine with it as my first weapon.
The charge is also a killer move in both 4U and Gen. The running portion tears ass in 4U and the finisher poke is absurd in Gen.

>>375899861
as well as shred your stamina, send your cats and other hunters flying through the air for 5 seconds. Charge is worst attack in the game, not even its finisher is worth it

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>>375899929
But they're fun

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>>375899878
>implying

Vroom vroom, motherfucker.

>>375899878
Right fucking here brother. DB is life.

>>375899758
Probably the hardest weapon to learn. Fun as fuck though, and the fastest movement speed of all weapons, you never seathe.

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>>375899929
>I just hate fast swords like that. Too flimsy.

>>375899964
i concede that stamina management is part of lance. but if you're THAT far away from a monster, you should just sheathe anyway and run towards it. like every other weapon in the game.

the charge knocking people around issue only really came up in generations onwards, which makes me very confused since it has a whopping 70 motion value for the style that abuses it. it also combos directly into the main triple poke. that's insanely efficient for two hits of sharpness.

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>>375895821
practice
I used to get so fucking fed up with these games but i'm glad I stuck with them, if you have the patience then you will be fine

>>375899929
DB plays like SnS except you ditch your shield for damage. It's all about staying om the offensive within reason, gotta watch your stamina

>>375899878
It just took me too long to kill a thing, I switched to CB and damn I kill shit in 3-4 ultra bursts

Why are all the best monster hunter games also the most imbalanced?
FU and 4U both only have a tiny number of weapons that are actually worth using, but they're also the best in the series.

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>>375900118
>which makes me very confused
which makes your post very confusing*

>>375897061
>Playing lance defensively will make you kill slower than you do with SnS.
Depends on the monster, you can stay pretty aggressive as long as you're using counter and still dodging what you can. It's a bit easier to make a Guard set than an Evade set too, so that's worth considering.

>>375900215
3-4 weapons that are really fun and satisfying vs 14 weapons that are all equally boring.

>>375900092
?
>>375900128
This is good to hear.
>>375900215
What's the most balanced MH game, then?

>>375900201
CB is kinda broken in MH4U but it's rad as fuck so it doesn't matter that much.

>>375900265
if they're equally boring, doesn't that also make them all equally interesting? you're not saying much here.

>>375895821
Work your way through the monsters and find one that can be made into armor you like. If it's a popular monster, you can abuse multiplayer to get fast farming of parts.

The game is a matter of building armor/weapons for harder monsters.

>>375900287
MH3U but that suffers from a lack of equipment variety and the game just overall being boring. Also technical issues out the ass.

>>375899886
>start charging facing away from the monster
>hold stick in his direction so when I loose the charge I 180 and slap that fucking in the face

GOTCHA
BITCH

>>375900287
About weapon balance: when we argue about what weapons are overpowered/shit, it's all hyperbole. All the weapons are viable, it's just that some weapons can kill faster (usually 30 seconds to a minute) than other weapons generally speaking.

A lot of it is dependent on skill, gear, and monsters so its mostly for the sake of banter.

>>375899589
Lance is one of the most mobile fucking weapons in the game when drawn

Backhop towards the monster instead of waddling if they're close, or just charge in if it's safe.

What's a good armor for High rank? I'm still using the High Metal S armor I bought from the shop. I had views on the Artisan armor but fuck farming them fragments

>>375900617
Get used to the grind, it's part of the games. Find some armor with skills you like and just armorsphere the fuck out of it.

>>375900617
Velociprey S

>>375900617
What weapon are you using? Seregios and Azure Rath are good picks.

I'm pretty sure starting people off with a SnS is some sort of cruel joke Capcom likes to play on people new to the series. Grab something a bit bigger (or even just the dual blades) and fuck around and figure out what you like. SnS is really good at applying constant elemental/status damage, deploying items really quickly, and generally using it's safe moveset, negligible stamina consumption, and shield to stay right on a monster's nuts until you carve them off. None of which are extremely useful on beginning monsters.

Don't write it off either, even if it doesn't get your juices flowing it's a really goddamn good backup weapon to use for monsters you fucking hate fighting with whatever weapon you mostly use.

Dont fall for the trap I did op
>new to MH
>making my way through slowly
>always excited to try each new monster
>and then rush to the smith to see what I can make
>think I am getting the hang of the game
>then my first zinogre turns up
>force myself to fight it repeatedly until I can do it without being completely shit
>eventually get a no cart very few potions used run
>Wait, I forgot to check what I can make with zinogre parts

Now I am ruined forever.
>I will play normally next game I swear
>adept style is just sitting there right at the start
>fuck
>MH5 played normally I swear

>>375900557
It's not hyperbole. The difference between a top tier weapon and a mid tier one is generally 30-50% faster kill times even in the more balanced games.
Capcom gives zero fucks about balance.

>>375900984
stygian zin makes pretty good gear, your time learning him is kind of worth it

>>375901068
That only applies if you're consistantly gud. New players don't have to worry about that, and veteran players stick to their favourites regardless.

Except Gunlance players. o7

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>>375900984
>Never liked any Adept/Aerial style since it fucked entirely with how I originally learned to use dodge i-frames
>Always rolled to pass through an attack, never to intercept it

Free from the Adept curse.

>>375901362
People really shit on adept? if you don't use it what do you use?

>>375901474
Probably original. People shit on the styles constantly, what are you surprised about?

>>375900984
>using adept

the style was created for casual players

Was it just me or was Monster Generations a huge step back from Monster Hunter 4? I bought Generations thinking it would be fun, like an MMO-like game for the 3DS but it was boring, painfully slow, and the gameplay was shit and clunky. I downloaded the Monster Hunter 4 demo and the gameplay felt more fun, the controls were better, and it ran at like 40-50FPS on the New 3DS compared to 30FPS on Generations.

>>375901526
>>375901545
I'm just surprised because when this all came out for months and months everyone kept saying adept was the best.

I started with striker for shits and giggles and switched to adept but I understand what >>375901362 Said about it feeling weird with dodging from what you're used to though.

>>375901564
Have you been living under a rock?

>>375901564
Gen was a step down in a lot of ways but honestly the basic control wasn't one of them to me. Maybe it's the framerate? I've never cared much for framerate as long as it's stable 30.

>>375900984
Um, what point were you trying to make exactly?

>>375901564
Mate everyone dunks on Gen. It brought a lot of cool stuff to the table but overall it was a weaker package.

Also it doesn't take advantage of the N3DS' capabilities for some reason.

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>>375901605
No shit, but the point being people resent the style for more or less carrying people who suck at the game. Doesn't really matter to me, I use almost all the styles on and off except for striker. My gunner friend adores adept so good for him. After taking over a year to memorize the regular dodge's iframes, nothing really fazes me.

>>375901725
evasion+ is one hell of a drug. Instead of bothering with all that pesky learning how to play the game nonsense or silly things like "paying attention to your positioning" you can just strap on the evasion+ skill and flop right through everything unharmed.

>>375901928
That's what I was thinking E+ paired with adept for maximum lazyness.

>>375901285
I don't know where this meme that imbalance is only noticeable if you're skilled comes from

>>375901928
No, I mean the first part. What's wrong with checking what gear you can make with new monster parts? That's not bad, that's essential to playing the game.

>>375902007
Oh shit I was thinking of stygian zinogre in that case. Seeing the evasion+ skill for the first time was supposed to be the point.

>>375901973
Adept Style has innate iframe increase equivalent to evasion +2

You literally get free E+2 just by having adept equipped

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>>375897745
Fake News! Sophia is best girl, Aisha is second.
Little Miss Forge is best daughter

>>375902287
Should've used Narga as example then, hers is THE evasion focused set of the series.

>>375902372
Wrong. Tanzia grill - best grill.

>>375902302
So it would be a waste then? Hmm..Guess i'll grab evade distance and go with something else. Maybe A+L

I haven't decided on any high level stuff yet.

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>>375898294
And also not enough Guildmarm.

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>>375902372
I disagree but respect your opinion.

>>375901992
If you're having a terrible run then you're times will suffer.

If you're having great runs then you're wasting less time.

If you have two impeccable runs with different weapons (say GS and GL), then you'll see a clear difference in times.

Basically you get better times the better you perform. We usually judge how good weapons are depending on how we perform at our peaks, and many players can't maintain that consistency long enough to notice a difference long term.

So yeah how good weapons are is irrelevant if you don't know how to use them.

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IT'S
THE SLAM JAM

>>375902302
>>375902459
Adept is on entirely different level from normal evasion. Not only you get increased iframe count, but you also don't have to time your roll properly. Usually you have to align iframes on your roll so that your invincibility time starts before the monster attack hits you, and that it'd be over before your iframes run out. With Adept you only have to come into contact with the enemy attack's hitbox at any point during your iframes, which will trigger the special animation that makes you invincible for its entire duration which lasts a couple of seconds.
Although this can actually fuck you up, if the monster continues attack you, because it just might hit you in the period after your invincibility end, and before you regain control of your character.

>>375902787
Mainly happens with Narga's swipes and Zinogre's paw slams in my experience

>>375902518
It doesn't matter because weapons don't compete with each other in TAs. They're obviously done within the same weapon class.

And nobody's gonna kick for using an underpowered weapon online, except the most autistic retard who aren't worth playing with in the first place.

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150 posts and not a single mention of any guns. Am I the only one?

>>375902940
I still get kicked for bringing my Steve bow set and my Livid Griscannon sets, even though both those sets shit damage like no one's business, especially if I eat for heroics and manage to survive with a sliver of health

>>375903036
I need to finish my teo bow set in gens, I might just go to XX at this point already. How is gens online? dead as fuck right?

>>375903036
Gunning isn't as noob friendly as blademaster weapons. Although Gen makes gunning easy with adept, because you can stop worrying about being one shot, when you're invincible. You just sit in one spot and shit out DPS.

>>375903036
I fuck about with them on occasion, but the thread started with OP asking how to git gud and gunning generally isn't where you want to start.

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Best monster coming trough

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>>375903331
Mah nig

>>375903036
I really like the looks of light bowguns, but I feel like it's a multiplayer only weapon, and I hear LBG isn't very good and HBG is best. But I hate turret mode.

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>>375903350

>>375903331
When I first saw the Zinogre weapons and armor, I was like "this is my set".

I'm very dissapointed in the Kirin armor, the helm is glorious but the rest is jut a bra.

>>375903356
Gen helped make LBGs better for solo play with the internal elemental shots and crit boost for high affinity pierce builds. Also the lost musket is a lot of fun.

>>375903356
HBG and LBG are both great weapons. Damage wise HBG is better, but LBG has that all important mobility (and it's godly for inflicting status ailments online). Bow is a late bloomer in MH4U.

>>375903575
You can use gunner weapons solo if you so desire.

It may not be the BEST weapon of choice, but its possible.
I personally use them solo for putting myself to the test or get better at dodging if I haven't played for awhile

>>375903954
HBG is hilarious for bullying Seltas Queen
Literally just point at her face and shoot and she'll keep falling down over and over and over again

And that's just with normal 2, I bet it's even more hilarious with Pierce

>>375903856
great jaggis are male

>>375898334
The map and monster roster in gen/XX are so much better

>>375904327
Not really, Gen used Copypaste Hollow instead of the godly 3rd gen volcano map

The map roster would be perfect if not for that

>Want to use dual daggers
>farming unlimited stamina ingredients is a requirement

WHY

>>375904741
>unlimited stamina is a requirement
Git gud juice junky. Ever heard of archdemon mode?

>>375904741
>needing dash juice

Bitch, please.

>>375904540
You complain about gen using a 4U map, but 4U was nothing but 4U maps. They're all terrible. 2 level areas are the worst meme in series history, and all the cliff area transitions are miserable.

It seems like I'm almost the only person who recommends trying switch axe to new players because of how versatile it is and how much less fucking annoying it is to not have weapons bounce until you start getting some with decent sharpness.

I guess you can use mind's eye oil with sword & shield in MHGen and that works too, but if we're talking about 4U then there's not a lot of reliable ways to avoid bouncing (for new players) besides using a switch axe.

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>>375899878
It's my sub main weapon and being a human beyblade is cool as fuck.
>mfw got max para relic with good purple sharp and affinity

>>375901564
It's the same game, so no. Framerate is better on 4U though, however it comes at the price of not being stable. Gen is lower but stable. When 4U dips it dips fucking hard.

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>>375903575
>yfw lost musket and samus's arm cannon in multiplayer

>>375905441
>but stable
But that's not true. It's capped at 30 and it still dips below very often.

>>375905547
"stabler", then. 4p Gore in Gen is fine, it isn't in 4U.

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>>375905392

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>>375905510
>yfw lost musket and samus's arm cannon in multiplayer

>>375905712
I don't mind when they're helping to KO monsters that run around a lot. I do mind when they start spamming that shit on a downed monster.

>>375895821
how do you topple an enemy and ride it? i was fighting the web monkey just now and i got on its back and kept stabbing it, but didnt know how i did it.

is the switch axe a good weapon? cause i like using that.

>>375905841
Yeah, I could care less if they actually hit the monster's head but these fuckers think it is fucking funny to go full rambo with this weapon.I mostly use the parasol and sw lbg whenever I go online so I don't worry about launching my team I only use Lost Musket online if I am playing with good players who knows positioning or with dumbfucks to show dominance

>>375905903
Do a jumping attack and you will occasionally mount the monster. IG is the best weapon for this but I don't recommend spamming it since it will kill off your dps. Switch Axe is pretty good and perfect for beginners since it is easy to learn weapon.

>>375905903
Any weapon that feels right to you is a good weapon.

Mount by jumping off a ledge and attacking a specific part of the monster, but the specific vulnerable parts differ for each one. You'll know you hit the right spot by a bright vertical yellowish-white hit effect. It'll take a few hits to get a mount and it takes more and more hits with each success.

>>375895821
play baguette because it feels like motherfucking shingeki no kyojin jumping everywhere and wrecking havoc

>>375899557
>adept
nah son, we brave now. firing arrows at 300mph with full gauge and actually having to put 10x more effort into the dodging than adept but y'know,
10 times 0 is still 0

>>375906241
kek'd.

OP, if you are interested in using IG, gathering essence is your priority. Go for Red>White>Yellow. You can get Red mostly from the head, White is mostly on the legs, Yellow is mostly on the Body. Most tails in game gives Green extract that restores your hp so try gathering essence from it when you have a small opening.

>>375895821
hey, XXfags, is the french weapon in aerial still awesome and fun to play or did they nerf it?

>>375903106
XX is actually decently populated by japs, but most of them squirm pretty hard against stronger monsters like the dreadqueen rath

I really need a hunting bud in XX so I can actually speak english for once. I'm only HR5 and I'm already going mad from not knowing what the fuck I should do with my coatings to help teammates

>>375905903
Run/roll of an edge to jump and attack to hit the monster and mount it. There's a long cooldown between each mounts.
When mounting it, spam attack to stab it and fill the green bar.
When the monster stats rampaging around or roars (dragon head goes red), hold R to get a grip (dragon head goes orange). Only stab when the head is green.

>>375899557
>>375906317
Rapid shot is bugged, not all hits will register damage.

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>tfw no mhxx on vita

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>>375906612
when you're shitting out arrows faster than rath can sell her body to a kut-ku you don't care about no missing damage son
is that an XX or Gens bug? Never really noticed any difference in hunt time

>>375906872
MHXX. It's roughly ~20% of your damage gone.

>>375906612
And yet it's still better than other types.

>>375906932
Just goes to show how poorly designed the weapon is. Are Heavy and Pierce even worth bothering with?

>>375907018
Heavy got buffed in XX. People reported that it has more or less same damage with rapid post-bug. It's also supposedly better at staggering monster than rapid, but is harder to aim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYXAEQtrKJs

As for pierce, it's only good for some monsters, (like piercing dreadking in Gen with alatreon bow), but it's still below rapid and heavy for regular monsters.

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>>375907018
pierce is great if you wanna stay the fuck away from a monster and still be at crit distance, and the damage for a full pierce is pretty good. Helps a ton against dreadqueen ian and dreadking los, but obviously won't do jack squat against monsters with a smaller frame

>>375907331
Why is Aladdin vivisecting Bambi?

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I still need one of these.

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>>375909286
>mfw most IS THIS A JOJO REFERENCE LOL JOJO REFERENCE casuals wouldn't recognize this as a jojo reference without having it pointed out to them

>>375909538
MH lolis were a fucking mistake. Little Miss Forge is alright, though

>>375910206
>he doesn't like lolis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlgeazmQLeY

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>>375910206
Best daughteru

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DROP THE FUFKGIN RUBY

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>That fucking trap setting speed on SP-boosted Guild SnS

>>375906317
So brave is the new hotness for my favorite weapon huh

Guess I will give that a go then
Tomorrow though, because it's way too late to go yank my microsd, drop the file on my card, then wait like half an hour for the install

>>375910983
Brave Bow is still pretty situational, you can't always triple power shot and don't have the same safety as Adept.

>>375899878
DB and HH are best weapons, only shitters will refute this

>>375898294
>the new upgrade system was meh
It's literally a straight fucking upgrade on the old system that doesn't let you go back on upgrades

I swear you dipshits don't even know why you hate some things you've just been told to hate them by someone else

>>375903036
I still regularly play HBG, but MHXX has kind of ruined the whole thing for me because they thought it was a good idea to make Evade Dist one of the rarest and most difficult skills to get on an armor set. Did the same thing for GS and Focus too.

>>375913068
You don't need evade distance with the new styles. Guild is objectively inferior on bowguns.

>>375913121
I don't enjoy the new styles. I hate siege mode and I've always hated siege mode and Brave HBG makes siege mode its gimmick.

>>375913212
I can't say I like siege mode much myself either, but it has always been HBG's main gimmick, even before the styles, and its main source of dps. You can use Adept and regular shots then. It's virtually the same as Guild afaik, except you don't have to sacrifice offensive skills for evade distance like before.

>>375913339
>and its main source of dps
Only in Hame runs. Solo HBG never used siege mode. The weapon is more than capable of shitting out massive damage without ever touching siege mode.

Adept is a net DPS loss for every weapon in the game too.

Which game has most active playerbase in mp? Generations or 4u?

>>375912313
>not Hammer
he, nice joke kiddo

>>375913409
I don't really care about 0.01% net DPS loss, when it makes gunning 100% less frustrating.

>>375898294
Upgrade system was great

>>375912878
This, for weapons it's nearly the same except the weapon doesn't get renamed every single step. People often complain you can't see what options are which, at least you can tell if the weapon can branch off or not.

Armor needing rare drops near the end is a bit gay, but Gen/XX are pretty generous with all of them except Hellblade Powder

>>375913474
They're both pretty quiet because you're probably going to go somewhere else to organize rooms, since randoms aren't worth it most of the time.

>>375914107
>need to upgrade the silver meme set
>need hyper silver los parts locked behind a DLC
>need a three slot armor piece for a custom set
>need esurient R locked behind a DLC

>>375914367
Don't you act that timegated monsters weren't in previous games as well.

>>375915805
They weren't required for the best sets though.

>>375895821
>step 1: use great sword
>step 2: see step 1

>>375915890
That's due to how the meta turned out. Something like Star Knight in MH4U may have not been the absolute best, but it sure as hell was a desirable full set for most and ended up gaining notoriety for frogs cheating it in before it was even released.

Upgrades like Black Fatalis Blade were essentially timegated as well.

>>375916113
BFB was only better for hunting other elders. And by the time it was available, you could most likely find a relic even better than Cera Cymmetry. Time gating for weapons wasn't really an issue, unless you're a collector who needs every weapon's final upgrade form.

So i went back to 4U after running out of shit to do in Gen. Since i never really touched IG before gen, decided to give it a try in a fresh save file. Did they nerf it from 4U to gen? Cos holy shit every monster dies so fast

>>375916310
IG was effectively top tier with GS in MH4U.

>>375916310
IG was so broken in 4U it wasn't even funny. You were effectively spamming GS charges with regular combos while being as mobile as HH with the double white/purple song.

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>>375916580
>You were effectively spamming GS charges

That's what it feels like. Well, i'm not complaining, IG is like one of my favourites now, love the moveset.

>>375910898
Nani? I though guild get speed eating+2 as SP mode, but it's actually item use speed up?

>>375916310
4U was just easy. People chalked it up as the 'hardest' because it was the first MH for most people. For veterans, nothing is harder than FU.

>>375918834
It's obvious you never played either 4U or FU.

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>>375918675
Yes, it even stacks with Speed Setup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCVDp1GZKrc

>>375918960
Not him but 140 GQs aren't the whole game. Same reasons i won't say XX super deviants are the hardest, optional content that you are never forced to do isn't all the game has to offer.

>>375919521
Well, if you put it that way, then yes, FU was harder overall, but not for the right reasons. Endgame in 4U is still the hardest thing the series has to offer.

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>>375919521
>Not him

>>375919765
>Endgame in 4U is still the hardest thing the series has to offer
Uh, no. The only hard thing in 4U was 140 GQ. The regular hub quests were not hard at all. Even Gen/XX's hyper monsters are harder.

>>375919994
Just as I said, it's very obvious.

>>375919494
>TA
>stops to attack a velociprey

>>375920087
Whatever you say, kid.

Was that Chinese release of Monster Hunter Online good?

>>375923486
Seems like it takes a couple of decisions that some fans wouldn't be happy with.

>>375895821
Just play it a lot.

One day it'll just click and you'll ascend. Literally you'll just have a mind snap moment and suddenly you see clearly, it's like you'll be watching monsters attack in slow motion or some shit.

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>>375903036
My nigga. Bow is my shit. Adept and haste rain is too good

>>375897036
>Lance is boring as fuck, it's just poke three times, dodge, poke three times, dodge, etc.

When you've played with just about all the weapons and dealt with their micromanagement, the Lance feels like a fresh of air. All you do is poke, hop, and block. And it feels wonderful.

>>375897763

Hold the down button when you're about to do an ultra so you can do a super to conserve your red shield.

>xx isn't coming to the west thank to /mhg/ and piratefags

>>375916310
Every new thing that capcom introduced to any main monster hunter games is broken as shit. CB, IG, adept, brave, mantis. Whatever the fuck they introduced to 5 you know it's gonna broke as fuck.

>>375926086
Except CB was pretty shit in 4. It only got buffed in 4U, then back to being mediocre in Gen.

>>375926086

Mantis isn't broken actually. The weapons are indeed very powerful, but you can outdamage it when you clownsuit to optimize. It's the same idea as the Mantis armorset, it's really good for a base dummy's 101 guide to clownsuit, but not for the best combination of skills.

It sort of ties into the reason why there's no transmogging of weapons. They expect you to use a different weapon depending on what monster you fight.

>>375926612
I haven't been following XX very closely. What's the Mantis' gimmick?
Also, what about the deviant blos?

>>375925771
There is a god after all

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>>375926876
330 raw, 10hit of natural purple and OOO slots
The same natural purple can be extended with JUST S+2.
If you're running Razor Sharp instead, you best be prepared to sell your soul to Readiness.

>>375926876
>I haven't been following XX very closely. What's the Mantis' gimmick?

Mantis's armor gives you 12 slots and comes with the skills Charm up (all points on your charm double, including decorations) and Skill +2, (all skills get a bonus 2 points). This means you only need 8 points to activate a skill and if it's on your charm, only 4 points. You can easily gem in 4-6 extra skills on there because of this, making the Mantis armor set the new but balanced Star Knight of XX. It's balanced because you're not going to be able to gem in the best skill combinations on there and you can't use its pieces for other clownsuit combinations as the only skills it has are its exclusive skills, charm up and skill +2.

The Mantis weapons are seemingly broken, and it can't be understated how seemingly broken they are. 330 raw, 20 (+?) points of Purple sharpness, and +60 defense across all blade master weapon classes. You'd think these are the best weapons in the game. But, purple has been nerfed to 1.39x attack boost. And if you were to build an armorset to maximize a weapon's base affinity and Critical Boost or take advantage of its element, it'd outdamage the Mantis weapons depending on the monster if it's taking advantage of the element or in general if you're going for a crit based set.

The only issue is that because you don't have to do any research or planning to capitalize on the Mantis gear, it comes across as broken. But it's not.

>>375927670
>330 raw, 20 (+?) points of Purple sharpness, and +60 defense across all blade master weapon classes.

Listen to this guy, I was incorrect.

>>375927317
>330 raw, 10hit of natural purple and OOO slots

>>375927670
>Charm up
Nice desu ne.

>how do i lock on the enemy
>where is the enemy life bar
Legit questions I had when first played 4U, not anymore since I dropped it.

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>>375928116
Always nice to see the original source material for this comic still exists.
Makes it even more entertaining.

tanaka stop posting on vee

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>>375928283
>no moustache

>>375931493
Good. We don't need that reddit edit spreading around.

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>>375931493
Gotta pay respects to the original every now and again.

>>375895821
The best advice I can give you about this game is this:
1. Take the cartridge out of the system
2. Sell it and buy a fun game
Hope I helped.

>>375931614
pretty sure that edit's been around since before reddit even existed

>>375928116
MH has had lock-on since 3U.
It's a massive icon in 4U and the game tutorialises you on it.
Maybe you'd know this if you actually played the games instead of just parroting ebin memes you saw online.